#BIG FUCKING WHALE

[cluescorner]

Thoughts on Canto V

Spoilers ahead. Also, disclaimer that I did not play it but instead watched it because I really like the story but I don't play the game anymore. I do not think playing it through would have impacted my experience, but do keep that fact in mind and let me know if you think my feelings would change if I had played it.

OH MY FUCKING GOD I REALLY LIKED IT! The characters were solid (though there are some problems), the theme of hoping for the future and allowing yourself to discover it for yourself rather than holding onto the past, and there were some incredible fucking moments.

Firstly, Ishmael. She was pretty stellar throughout. Watching her slowly degrade into becoming a mirror of the very woman she sought to destroy was heartbreaking, I felt like she actually had a real arc this canto that helped her become a less burdened person, and some of her deepening bonds with the other sinners were awesome. I particularly liked watching her interactions with Outis because Moby Dick and the Odyssey/Illiad are the two literary works from Limbus that I know well, and based on that info it makes sense that they would both understand and annoy each other. The moments with Heathcliff were also incredible because they've always had a really cool dynamic. Ishmael's relationships with her crew were also interesting and I feel like that could have easily been the best part of this cant, but ultimately that didn't end up happening (more on that later). I felt like the sudden character development 'Oh the other characters are my friends and they are my compass' thing was a BIG JUMP especially for Ishmael, but it's not a bad idea. I think it just needed more time in the oven, let Ishmael interact with the other sinners inside the dungeon and have her work together with them to get through things. Fortunately, Ishmael's VA + the Mili song really carried that ending so I still wound up getting caught up in the moment regardless. Speaking of Ishmael's VA...HOLY SHIT WHATEVER THEY ARE GETTING PAID IT WAS NOT ENOUGH!! Singlehandedly made me like this Canto so much more than I otherwise would have. An incredible performance all around, stand out moments include but are not limited to: Her ranting at the pirates about them not knowing what shame is, the euphoric hatred in her voice as she fantasizes about finding and killing Ahab, the grief as she discusses Queequeg and the hope as she sees Queequeg again, and OF COURSE WHEN SHE GOES AHAB MODE! Bravo Jang Ye-na, you carried this Canto through its weaker moments and helped the best ones become my favorite moments in this game.

Next, Ahab. I liked her a lot, fucking awful captain woman who reminds me of my old pastors. GOOD JOB MAKING THIS A FUCKING HORROR GAME THIS BITCH SCARES ME! I wish we could have seen more of her (and maybe we will in the future) because what we got was incredible. I was expecting a shitty boss but instead got another fucking cult leader. Her design is also a solid mirror to Ishmael's, further emphasizing the point that they are becoming more alike as this stuff goes on AND making the moment where Ishmael breaks the cycle of hatred more impactful. She is an incredible mirror of what happens where you allow hatred to consume you entirely, and the VA really reflects that. The only complaint I kinda have is that she probably should have been a lot more morally grey than she was. I feel like we just kinda got Kromer version 2 in terms of the role she played in the story and in Ishmael's life, granted that might change in the future so I will be very happy to be wrong if that's the case. But after Dongrang, I was expecting something a little more sympathetic or at least nuanced than 'evil cult leader captain lady hates that fucking whale and will kill her crew and makes that abundantly clear'. Again, I do like what we got so I can't complain too much but still.

I LOVE THAT BIG FUCKING WHALE! SCARY FUCKING BIG WHALE COMETH! ELDRITCH WHALE!

The Indigo Elder is so fucking cool. I wish he were here for more than 3 minutes and actually had something to do. They really introduced a man by having him tear the arm off the guy who we were struggling to survive against, said he was a Color and that he killed another Calamity, teased this really cool plan, and then...he's just waiting outside presumably 1v1-ing the whale but we get to neither see nor hear about it at all. I hope he comes back and we can see him do cool shit, because we had an incredible set-up with mediocre pay-off.

Ishmael's crew...I loved them so much I wish they were in the Canto for more than 1 level. They should have been introduced MUCH EARLIER in order to have their deaths have more of an impact. We should have been in the whale for longer, even if it meant shortening other parts of the chapter, just for the crew. Because those are Ishmael's ties and these are the people who Ahab's hatred is robbing the world of. What we did get of them was very strong, but Starbuck and Pip got nothing in terms of character moment and time. Queequeg got a little bit more (by the way I love that Queequeg actually looked like the design team at least LOOKED at a Polynesian person, I'm so jaded from other gacha games that I'm thrilled somebody actually looks like they're from the culture they're inspired from. She looks like a buffer, female version of one of my Polynesian neighbors it's great.) and it made her feel a lot more developed. She was a solid adaptation of Queequeg and her relationship with Ishmael was so sweet. The moments we got of them together were some of the highlights and it made me really want them to manage to escape together. Of course that was never gonna happen, but still. I also don't like how we don't even see Queequeg and Starbuck die. Are we supposed to assume Ahab killed them to manifest the ego? Did we kill them? I see some criticism around the fact that they stood by Ahab's side at the end and wondering why they did that. And I get that criticism because it is weird, but also that's just kinda what cult leaders can do especially when they're the only reason you've been alive for however long + you're slowly being overtaken by BAD WHALE JUICE. I 100% buy that they chose to follow the Captain because the Captain is always right and even when She does horrible things Her understanding is elevated above ours. And if Her fight is our fight, then surely it is ok for us to die here.

I feel like this is also a criticism that only I care about but why is the story suddenly like 'oh revenge is bad don't do revenge'? Like, I get it revenge is bad and that was kinda the point of Moby Dick. BUT WE HAVE LITERALLY DONE SO MUCH REVENGE AND REVENGE WAS KINDA SINCLAIR'S WHOLE THING AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE HEATHCLIFF'S! Why is revenge suddenly bad and 'oh no it makes you just like the other person' no it does not Sinclair did not suddenly become genocidal because he kept trying to murder Kromer. Is revenge only bad when it's successful? IDK, I just hate narrative inconsistency and this immediately jumped out at me.

Overall, I really liked this Canto! I have my problems with it, but they are relatively minor compared to all it does well.

[nidoskull]

SO TRUE

[spotsupstuff]

"Can off the string puppets get sick from viral or bacterial infections since they no longer have a whole can to give them immunity?"

i swear to god anon, when i read "can off the string" i immediately thought of iterator cans walking around

horrifying suicidal kaiju

there Was some iterator design out there with some kind of walking can so like...

[fishgirl514]

BIG FUCKING FISH 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beluga whale - delphinapterus leucas

[outism-had-a-purpose]

yeah so like. in the post credits cg.

hermann recruits ahab.

Hot take: toxic codependent old woman yuri between these two.

HERMANN ASSEMBLING THE HAG AVENGERS.

[waywardsalt]

ok not hiding it in tags this time; genuinely why do people think phantom hourglass takes place in a ‘dream world’ a la links awakening. it doesnt

[veganhamsalad]

that picture makes me wanna puke in the best way

[planet4546b]

i love you a fever dream ee. Lets all think of samira together

[narwhalandchill]

somewhere out there is an alternative take of the 4.1 AQ whale dream cutscene where its otherwise the same except they had the narwhal go for clicks instead of whalecall to happily greet ajax as one does and theres just this visible shaking effect on the screen after each series of clicks to signify the intensity of the sound wave and the consequent vibrations going through childes puny little body floating out there in the sea so instead of having all that artistic slowly opening his eyes in this beautiful primordial sea scenery and his narwhal antics hes just jerking tf awake doing his best impression of an alarm violently going off in a phone set on vibrate . literally going BRRRRRRRR on the spot

[dirtbra1n]

yeah so about ichinose.

if there’s one thing harusono is gonna do it’s give characters identifying marks

like I really don’t think there’s anything profound to say here it’s just like. ahhhh I’m sending you psychic beams you’ll understand. basically I’m wondering though The hell happened in the year since this happened

gayass..

[spookyboywhump]

Those bark boxes for dogs but geared towards whumpers for their pets ,,,,

LOVE THIS,,,,,

But also just imagined Wren receiving one from Cain that’s all marine life themed 😭 he’s still kind of insulted but one of the toys is a shark so he’s also thrilled,,,,

But also also. Whumpers using these toys to make their pets play fetch,,,, punishing them if they try to use their hands,,,,,

[zickmonkey]

No unfortunately I do have the travel bug now- I listened to the Outlander theme song a little to hard and now I have to go back to Scotland. I didn't do it right last time.

[blueish-bird]

the body is weak (am sick) but the spirit is more than willing (draw. CSM)

[ssolessurvivor]

...

tw for unhealthy/disordered eating in the tags

cause I'm a moron

[x-heesy]

All is full of Love 🫶🏽

..“my physical, biological isn’t logical it’s astronomical“... -Kickin' by Whale 🎧 v2.0 👨‍🚀

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[sunnibits]

big fan of when animals are fucking huge but wouldn’t mind if I gave them a little pat pat. yknow. horses. cows. elephants. whales. etc. my point is “huge fuckin herbivore that is also sooooo gentle” never had a bad track.