#Are either bigots like this or people that also make it their personality to hate a bunch of freelancers

[inkskinned]

don't worry, they're joking! they're always joking when it would be something, like bigoted. because i'm not a bigot, obviously, i just vote for bigots - well, they're not bigots either, you can't really call someone a bigot just because they have religious views. this is the land of the free, and it's a christian nation, after all. you can pretend otherwise but let's just be real here; all our values are really based on the bible. anyway, i know you liberals get your panties in a twist - can i say that, or are you gonna cancel me, haha, #metoo - about every little joke he said and every little dramatic political view. oh, fascist this and fascist that. you are online too much, you love the word fascist because it's big and you're just paranoid about things.

well, no, i don't, like, read the policies. i have a life. and so what if they wrote - stop it, it's not a manifesto, okay? he eventually backed off from that - oh the vice president? who cares about that guy, that isn't real power. you're being dramatic, they're just spitballing. everyone makes big claims when they're out there campaigning. he just means he personally wouldn't get gay married. you want him to divorce his wife and get gay married? anyway, even if they cancelled gay marriage - it wouldn't happen, okay? nobody i know really cares about that - it'd be states-rights like those abortions you love so much. and you live in a blue state. you live in like the gay capital of the world. i don't know why it'd be so bad for you, you're borrowing trouble there.

and besides, you're missing the point of his campaign! you people want to be victims so bad you completely ignore what we're really voting for. there are tons of good things that happened because of his name and his policies - the economy, for one. oh stop, just because i can't tell you what a tariff is off the top of my head doesn't mean i don't have eyes. and stuff was better under him! well, yeah, anything good is his work, obviously. what? no, all the bad stuff was biden. and probably also obama. what do you even care about this, anyway? it's not going to effect you. it's four years.

oh my god, not the climate change argument again, i'm not getting into that. i don't care about it. if my house is beachfront that's great news for me. and we don't really know what's causing it. no, i saw you forwarded me those articles and i just laughed. what, do you think i have time to sit on my ass and read shit? huh? well, no, i like reading the babylon bee. they actually had a great article about all you climate freaks. and in the meantime, what do you want me to do? i'm not paying 4 dollars for gas. liberals love to talk about solutions but never pay for the solutions. what do you mean blocked because of congress. you gotta stop with the conspiracy shit.

no, my side doesn't have real conspiracy theories. the vaccine thing is a real thing. besides, you yourself don't like big pharma. just because i have an opinion, suddenly now you think big pharma is great? and this is serious, okay? your mom's friend's coworker has a kid that died from a heart event. i don't want you getting any more vaccines. i regret that you got them as a kid, i'd redo them. what do you mean you'd vaccinate your own kids? are you finally thinking of having some? you know i want grandkids - oh stop, i've never pressured you, i'm just saying that if you're going to get gay married, you might as well give me some normal grandkids to love.

stop, you know what i meant. what? no, he's not going to take away your right to adopt. besides, you could always use a sperm donor, haha, i know your high school ex would love to - jesus! okay! no need to snap. i'm just saying that you don't need to be married to have a kid. the only real benefit to marriage is taxes, haha. it won't change anything. oh my god, no, there won't be a rise in hate crimes. well, it's not his fault what people do in his name! he eventually spoke out against that, anyway.

what do you mean he supported them? i didn't hear him say that. oh. well, yeah, he said it, but like, he's clearly joking.

[suzukiblu]

You know I have come to the realization that this is a thing on which I would like to be clear, as a reasonably prolific writer of fanfic with a range of readers who all have very different levels of familiarity with the various canons I have dabbled in: I love a lot of things about [ insert canon here ] and I definitely DO have certain personal pet peeves in regards to "yeah this person definitely didn't read/watch/even-briefly-skim anything outside of fandom" interpretations that I find particularly slanderous or are just Not My Vibe or things like that which I personally just can't get into or enjoy. Like, things that are just not to my taste, you know?

But also, fuck it, canon is a suggestion and fandom's only actual "rules" are "try not to be an entitled prick or actively hateful", as far as I'm concerned. No, no one has to do the homework just to write/draw/meta/post about something they're getting something out of. I personally am too dang old to do any more of the homework than I want to and I am sure as heck not gonna hold anyone else to that standard either.

Imo there is just no reason whatsoever to ever be upset about MORE people getting involved in the fun thing and enjoying themselves with it, especially when we can all zero-effort back-button out of anything we don’t like. I don't care if they're wrong about [ insert character here ]!! I mean, I do, I very much do, it makes my 'tisms personally insane, but unless someone's wrong in like a hateful/sexist/racist/bigoted way, that's their business, not anybody else's! Let 'em cook, people! We don't get better content in our fandoms by getting publicly judgy about and way too publicly INVESTED in how other people in it have fun. Actually, all we get that way is LESS content. Like so, so much less.

Look, it's a process, I'm personally still working on it myself. There's def stuff that bothers or pet-peeves me, and stuff I just gotta skate past without engaging. I just think keeping a little more perspective helps, in these situations.

Also, not telling people things like "hey if you don't read literal DECADES' worth of MULTIPLE monthly-release comics and all the relevant crossovers and events/watch every single episode and movie released since the seventies/listen to all the bonus episodes of this already-over-one-hundred-hours podcast, you don't belong here" helps. Also that. Definitely that.

[luluu2424]

I don't like Isha because she feels more like a plot device than a character

I'm never going to beat the "I Hate Isha" allegations. Oh, well.

I do mean what I said when I say she feels like a weird last minute writing decision. Like, it's weird that the characters didn't talk about her and her Elfen Lied shock value death right? Also, yes I'm comparing Arcane season 2 to Elfen Lied, that's what season 2 deserves.

those of you lucky enough to have never seen Elfen Lied probably want some context. Fare. Content Warning: Elfen Lied has graphic Violence and Sexual violent situations, don't look into it unless you want to ruin your day. It's an Anime/Manga series about Lucy, a woman with horns and telekinetic powers that also has Jekyll n Hyde split personalities. She's believed to be the next step in evolution and there's a big government conspiracy to find her. There's also a lot of underage nudity and over-the-top violence. Yeah... It also allegedly inspired Stranger things. Go figure.

One thing the story was infamous for was introducing super cute big eyed characters that they barely develop, just kill them off violently(the puppy, number 3, Kisaragi, Mariko and her clones, Kanae, and Aiko) and then use their deaths as motivation for other characters(usually Lucy.) Isha definitely had more character development than the average Elfen Lied character, but it still shouldn't be this easy to make the comparison.

With all that in mind it's such a weird writing choice that only Jinx is mourning her/actually acknowledging her death. You're telling me that we don't get to see Sevika, the woman who saved Isha's life once, mourning her. Or Vi, the woman who spent several days with Isha at the commune, and the fact that her life was put in danger was the reason she went against Caitlyn. Or Caitlyn doesn't have anything to say about the fact her friend Jayce's decision to shoot a hole in Viktor's chest was what indirectly lead to Isha's death.

She also about half the time feels like one big plot device to get the characters from Point A to B. "We need Jinx to mellow out for a bit? Let's give her kid to befriend. Don't you know randomly befriending kids cures mental illnesses." "We need a reason for Vi and Cait to not kill Jinx long enough for Sevika to finish the grey plan? Let's have Isha human shield herself for Jinx. It will completely remove any likeablity Cait had left after she gassed Zaun and pressured Vi into becoming an Enforcer, but whatever." Also, it's interesting that Isha human shielding herself for Jinx didn't get brought up more. If I was Vi or Cait, I'd question if Jinx put her up to that as a distraction so Sevika could redirect the grey.

Finally, I want to talk about Isha's muteness. Now I kinda hate how ableist some people can be when talking about her disability. Like, I view Isha as a plot device because the writers wrote her that way. Some bigots online view her as a plot device just because she's mute. As if you can't write compelling mute characters. That being said, the show's choice to kill her and every other disabled character off except Princess Warcriminal is... not great. I genuinely worry about how the writers feel about disabled characters. "Was Isha just written in as a tool for Jinx to vent her feelings?" People use the fact that she's mute to say things like that, and their kinda not wrong, but also, Isha almost never even signs back against Jinx either. She'd still just be Jinx's fangirl cosplayer even if she could talk.

By the way, I'm not disabled myself. If you are and had a problem with the way I talked about that aspect of Isha, your more than free to call me out on it in the comments. God knows more people should've done that in the critique videos I've watched.

[chocolate-sherberries]

Thinking about how big of a people pleaser Tommy is...

Like, his father was not a loving person - so he sought love and approval elsewhere - Falling into the footsteps of a bigot captain hoping he and the firefighter gang would take him under his wing and approve of him.

Having a near death experience and realising how turning into a cold, distant, and hateful person like his Captain or his father is not going to fill the void inside him, so he builds more real friendships with the likes of Chimney, Hen and Bobby, trying to value his truth over falling into hateful patterns for approval.

Always being just a call away from his friends, ready to risk his everything - his job, his life - to help his friends.

Always going the extra mile to entertain someone, especially if there is a chance for solid potential friendship - like flying Eddie, someone he just met, to Vegas to see a fight.

The way he cared for Buck throughout his cursed-dislocated shoulder injury.

Like yes, he does have a really big heart and will genuinely do anything for the people he cares about, but yes he also longs for approval, to be recognised as a good person and a good friend.

Maybe that is why he also hesitated when Buck asked him to move in because yes past experiences scared him and even though he is actually a good person a part of him felt like a fraud and felt a sense of imposter syndrome - thinking he is not good enough, or that he has fooled Buck into loving him despite his clearly evident flaws - like his brain is going like, "how can you look at me warts and all (no boils references intended) and still choose to love me?"

And so he leaves because he doesn't feel he is good enough for Buck, because he feels like a fraud for fooling Buck to love him and because he is made to believe by past experiences that nothing good comes for free or lasts forever. He makes himself believe that he must leave before some potential ugly truth comes out and either him or Buck are left battered and bruised in ways that cannot be repaired. This is the only way he can think of avoiding any potential heart-shattering pain in the future for either him or Buck, and so he just leaves because that is the only way he could think of showing Buck his love, by saving Buck from himself.

[velvetvexations]

@ The person asking "why dropout" it's also because for some fucking reason chronically online queer people hold media that either includes queer people or that is made by them to a frankly impossible to reach standard that, once they inevitavly don't live up to it entirely, will be used as an excuse to tear them to pieces as "intentionally" bigoted monsters who should be deplatformed. In fact they will often act like any inclusivity or queer rep up to this point was legit queerbaiting meant to get people off their backs so they can beat up the "bad" queer people in peace.

The EXACT same thing happened to She-ra and Steven Universe and Star Trek Discovery and the McElroy brothers and Thomas Sanders and Becky Albertalli(author of Simon vs the Homosapien Agenda who was forced to come out as bi when she wasn't ready to get people to leave her the fuck alone, which ofc didn't fucking work) and John Green way back in the day. If you dare to be imperfect even once while attempting to be inclusive or represent you own queerness yourself they will tear you to shreds until everyone hates you because if you aren't perfect you're tainted through and through and no good you've ever done will ever make up for it.

They almost never do this to media made for straight people by straight people, because their stance is essentially if you can't be perfect queer rep first try then you shouldn't even bother trying. Supernatural, as an example, never got this treatment despite the fucking mess it was. The same people who act like shows by queer people are bad if they ever have a gay person get a papercut seem to have absolutely nothing to say about SPN actually pulling the bury your gays trope. Idk if it's internalized homophobia or what but yeah any time there is media made by queer folks or with queer folks in the intended audience that slips even a little(or doesn't slip AT ALL) they will be treated as the pinnacle of evil and disposed of as loudly and violently as possible.

Dropout could and should have more trans women, everything should tbh, but because they haven't included enough trans women specifically all of the work they do to uplift minorities and especially queer and trans people is worthless and we should all speculate about the staff being massive transmisognists in private who are intentionally and maliciously excluding trans women and until they crawl through the desert for miles repenting their sins cannot be forgiven and all the good they've done is treated as like, them trying to cover their asses or whatever honestly it's a profoundly stupid argument that is flimsier than wet tissue paper and should be disregarded as such. Like ofc push for more transfem rep, but not to the extent that you're insisting there's an anti-transfem conspiracy going on behind the scenes where they all sit around the D20 dome and laugh like super villains about how they get off on excluding trans women from their shows.

Anyway I have mad respect for Dropout for supporting Ally's transition and helping Jacob pay his rent because it's a fucking nightmare to get cast if you're fat. I want more trans women but pushing for that while not forgetting everything they do is 100% possible.

All of this is completely true as well, although ultimately I think the biggest reason is that at the end of the day it was the same small clique on here starting shit for their own dumbass drama addiction.

[loveless-arobee]

While I know the angry-aro blogs are from a troll (just blog them, really. They're an incredibly annoying individual who has just made a new blog to block-evade...), I do want to emphasize that my notes are not a safe place for ace-phobia.

While I did make a pose critisizing sex-negative and anti-AlloAro sentiments I've noticed in aspec-spaced, that does not mean I hate aces or would in any world agree that aces somehow oppress aros.

Yes, there are quite a few asexual people who do not question their own internalized anti-AlloAro rhetoric, and some (not a lot, but we won't get anywhere if we act like they don't exist) who openly agree with this sentiment and are extremely sex-negative and aromisic, the number of aces who try their best to listen, understand and include alloaros in aspec spaces is much greater. A lot of the people who reblogged and agreed with the post I mentioned above were asexual!

We won't get anywhere by acting like everyone will always be the worst possible. Assuming all aces hate AlloAros won't make the community any better, and aces assuming all AlloAros hate them won't either. Because none of that is true.

We also won't get anywhere by ignoring anti-AlloAro rhetoric in ace-spaces, or anti-ace rhetoric in AlloAro spaces (and also not by assuming anything AlloAros say about themselves without mentioning aces is somehow ace-misic...)

The reason I criticize aces for AlloAro-misia is not because I believe all aces are somehow more arophobic than any other given person, but because I try to make the aspec community a safer place for everyone, and AlloAros are part of that community, and a part that has been very often excluded from aro communities in the past. (One example I can think of being the aromantic subreddit implementing a rule that forced aroallos to tag even just mentioning sexual attraction without ever going into detail as "NSFW" and when they tried to fight back, because simply saying they're allosexual is not NSFW, being told to go to the AroAllo subreddit instead because they made the AroAces uncomfortable (there were also a bunch of AroAces speaking out against that, though. A few of them being assholes doesn't mean all of them are, even if the assholes happen to be the ones in charge in this case.) The rule is gone, afaik, but I'm not on reddit anymore so no clue what's going on now.)

Some aces being bigoted assholes does not give you the right to attack all of them nor to be bigoted back at them.

[batboyblog]

i live in the south, and i used to follow someone on here who lives in the same state as me, who i thought would've understood how difficult things are for marginalized people who live in red states and why we needed harris to win. but they kept reblogging posts about how both parties are the same and anyone who votes for harris is voting for genocide (as if letting trump win was going to be any better?? he's just started talking about wanting to "clean out the whole thing" and forcibly displace all remaining palestinians by making them move to jordan and egypt, an idea which every group who would be affected hates 🙄). i kept hoping they'd finally realize the very obvious fact that contributing to trump's win wasn't going to make things better for any decent person in the world but the last straw for me was when they posted something like "well i was going to go vote for [fictional character] but the line was too long so i just went home haha!!" i blocked them right after that, and now of course trump is in office and things are going to get so much worse for me and for them as those of us in red states have so much less of a chance to push back against our local governments and all of the bigots who voted for trump will feel more emboldened by his win. so yeah, i share your small fantasy that people like that will wake up and realize they were wrong for spreading these ideas. sorry for venting in your inbox though lol, you don't have to reply to this if you don't want to!

One of my best friends in politics is from Louisiana. He's gay and when he came out his parents sent him to a pray the gay away camp where... really horrible shit happened. And I think about that skinny kid coming out of just the most horrible shit imaginable and being a Freshman in college working his ass off for a Red State Democratic Senator, Mary Landrieu, Mary didn't win, but he worked SO hard for her. And we met working on Hillary's campaign together, boy has bad luck with Democratic women running for office.

Any ways the point is, I love red state Dems, I really do. My friend really loved John Bel Edwards, now I don't think either of us really fully agreed with Edwards, I know my friend was as feminist as a gay boy can be and believed in the right to an abortion totally, Edwards was/is one of the rare pro-life Democrats. But my friend understood, a Democratic governor would protect more people's rights, do more for the poor and the disadvantaged. Edwards' signed an order day one in office banning LGBT discrimination in the state government, when a Republican took over 8 years later, day one, threw that order out, a lot like Trump undoing all the pro-LGBT orders Biden did and rolling back trans rights/access to federal documents that came about under President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

I think thats the thing, in Red States and in America at large we share this big country with a lot of people most of whom are more conservative than I am, so how do I get as much of what I want as I can? Do I vote Mickey Mouse for President? no I vote for the candidate that will do the most good, I won't always agree with them, I don't agree with myself most of the time.

idk it's not... theoretical to me? I'm likely not writing my best work here but when it comes to voting I think about all the people in my life who needed help, if they got it or not, and the ways they were left behind or would have been life behind and all the kids out there, queer kids trans kids, the poor always the poor kids, you know and the loss they'll suffer because of 4 years of a Republican President. And yes Trump is a VERY bad Republican President but if we ever get to some future after him there will come a time where maybe a bland centrist Democrat will run against a business focused Republican, Bush V Gore? and people will say "oh there's no difference" and there is.

oh also I want to say, the little old ladies, the normie "cringe lib" wine moms and grandmas (and yes dads and granddads, but more women then men tbh) who struggle with a grand-nephews pronouns did more for trans rights by going out knocking doors for Harris one weekend, then shitty leftist posters (trans and not) who endlessly attacked Dems and voting.

any ways I'm sorry all this is happening, idk what state you're in or how bad it is or will be. I don't have easy answers for living through this long night of the soul. As Thomas Paine put it all those years ago "These are the times that try men's souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman." it is trying my soul, but I will endure as we all must endure, we can not give up we cannot fail, we cannot allow ourselves to be ground down by fascists, and by their handmaids who act as if they're on our side, I hope everyone is looking to what they can do, and what the next chance they have to fight back and take back political power is.

[rjalker]

Dear teenagers on tumblr, and a whole bunch of adults, too:

You can be any identity under the sun, and that does not stop you from being bigoted or hateful towards other people of that identity or any other.

Being gay doesn't magically mean you can't be homomisic or anything else.

Being aspec does not mean you can't be amisic or anything else.

Being trans doesn't mean you can't be transmisic or anything else.

Your identity does not determine how harmful or hateful your actions and words are. There is no identity in the world that gives you a free pass from biotry and cancels out all the harm you do.

"But I can't be an exclusionist, I'm literally aspec!" is a completely meaningless statement. I know not everyone remembers, or was even online during the aspec harassment campaign, but a ton of alloaces and alloaros were onboard with the whole thing and throwing the "non-Queer aces and aros who make us look bad" under the bus.

Their asexuality or aromanticism did not magically make their actions not violently and horrifically amisic.

Being part of an oppressed minority does not make all of your actions harmless and innocent, and it does not mean that anyone who criticizes you for bigotry against other people from that minority group is just "stupid" and needs to "touch grass".

You being [insert identity] does not mean that it's impossible for you to hurt, or be hateful towards other people of that identity.

If someone tells you that something you are saying is harmful and bigoted, and that there are better ways to phrase what you're actually trying to say, you cannot respond with "I'm literally X identity you stupid idiot, do you think I hate myself??" or pretend that the people telling you it's harmful are just "making up problems to get mad about" and "need to touch grass" and "looking for things to be offended by"

You cannot repeat the exact same words any random conservative would be saying and call yourself progressive and say you're acting in good faith and have good intentions.

If you actually want you make yourself and your blog a supportive place for your community, then you need to learn that it is not okay to respond to people telling you something is hurtful by just repeatedly insulting them and saying they're just looking for problems to cause and you've done nothing wrong because "I'm literally X identity I can't spread hate about my own identity".

Because yes you can. And you are.

If multiple people are telling you you're acting like an exclusionist, that is your cue to stop, take time to calm down your immediate negative reaction, and listen properly.

Do not just immediately leap to repeating exact conservative talking points by accusing people of "looking for things to get offended by".

Do not immediately leap to insulting people's intelligence and other ableist things.

If you are actually acting in good faith, and you are actually trying to be a supportive member of your community, then you have a personal responsability to listen to other people in your community when you are told that something you've done or said is hurtful and is perpetuating harmful, exclusionary beliefs.

You are not immune to being a bigot just because you're also a minority.

You have a personal responsibility to listen to people when they tell you you are doing something harmful.

You have a personal responsibility to unlearn bigoted thought patterns and behaviors like immediately dismissing any criticism as "special snowflakes getting offended by everything".

You have a personal responsibility not to harm your own community.

Everyone needs to learn this lesson at some point. You will either learn it now, when you're young, or you'll learn it when you're older and you've already driven people away from you.

Either way, you gotta learn it.

You cannot repeat conservative bigoted talking points and keep insisting your intentions are good.

If you actually want to be a good person who supports other minorities, you have to learn to act like it. You have to learn to listen when people tell you you've done something harmful. You have to learn to listen when it is explained that you are repeating exclusionary talking points that harm the community.

[ID: A screenshot of a post by dulce de calabaza / zapatistarising, that reads, "There's actually no political label or identity that absolves you of doing harm". End ID.]

I suggest you try learning it now while you're still young, before you've driven your community away from you with your hateful behavior. No one likes a bigot.

And no one wants to hang out with someone who immediately starts insulting people and all but calling them special snowflakes when they're told they've said something bigoted.

[hadesisqueer]

I appreciate The Dragon Prince because it gave me tragic antagonists or villains that I love (Claudia), villains that while I don't really like them I understand how they came to be and can feel a bit of sympathy for (Aaravos or Viren), villains I straight up fucking hate (Sol Regem) and villains that I don't really hate because when they appear on-screen I just sigh wondering how they can be so fucking stupid (Karim). They really give you everything.

No but for real, Karim's entire character arc consists of 'The risk I took was calculated but I am bad at math' because. He's so dumb. He keeps saying he wants to restore the Sunfire Empire to its former glory, but like-- how? What plans do you have for the future? Are you going to try to retake Lux Aurea? Because you can't. Oh, you want humans out? Okay-- how would that help to restore the former glory, though? You're just being a bigot?

The thing is that all Karim ever did was talk about his birthright —that's not even his birthright, actually, because he's the youngest sibling— and keep babbling about history demanding blah blah blah of people and how his sister wasn't a competent queen when actually it is the opposite. Janai proves, by allowing the architect to live while still giving her an according punishment, that she is a fair queen who chooses mercy and allows people to grow while still choosing justice; also, that she's more practical, because what good is a talented architect dead —who did something awful but still was sorta right about fire being dangerous around the camp— when you can just make her build a shrine so this kind of incident never happens again. Janai also had the Sunseed and plans to nurture it and help it grow, help her own people grow. She actually had plans for the future, and she had the patience necessary. She understands that you must learn from history but that it also doesn't define you, that you must not let it define you.

Karim doesn't get that. He was obsessed with history and the old ways. He didn't have any patience. And he didn't have any long term plans. Or even backup plans for when his plans inevitably failed, either! He was so convinced Janai would refuse his duel he was shocked when she actually fought him, and resorted to fighting-- with fire magic-- against someone who's fireproof-- again, no actual plan. He tried using an assassin to kill his sister, the actual person the assassin had a life debt to. He wants to steal the Sunseed, actively fucking over his people. When Ezran tells him to take his followers and start somewhere else, Karim refuses because he says he doesn't want crumbs off his sister's plate, but at the same time it's like-- that's exactly what you were gonna get, buddy. You wanna use Sol Regem to torch your sister's army. The only thing you're gonna rule over is the followers you have now plus what remains of Janai's, if they even accept you. So, yeah. Literally crumbs.

Also, again, he's so fucking entitled. 'What's rightfully mine' he's the youngest sibling, nothing is rightfully his, he's an usurper. Part of his demands being that humans leave and go back to 'their side of the border, where they belong', buddy, you'd be the king of the Sunfire Elves, not the King of all of Xadia. As king you could make humans leave your territory, but not Xadia. If a bunch of humans, hypothetically, befriended Moonshadow or Skywing elves and lived at the Silvergrove, or wherever the Skywing elves live, with them-- what, now you're gonna try to wage war against the the other elves, too, because they're not following your ways? You can threaten them with Sol Regem, sure, but also consider, because you didn't even consider it when you went to him-- he's an Archdragon, yeah, but the weakest of the Archdragons right now. Let's say Ezran and Janai follow through and give up and leave. They could go with Zym and head straight up to the Mushroom Mage and come back with Zubeia, the current Queen of the Dragons, right after she's done with her treatment. They arrive. Who's gonna win? A healthy Archdragon on her prime or an old, blind Archdragon that hasn't flown or fought in centuries? Also, once you give him the Sunseed he actually has no reason to be on your side, he already got what he wanted. Even if the Katolis thing didn't happen, he could've turned against you very easily. He likely would've done so.

He's an awful leader who doesn't actually care about his people. He disrespects other world leaders like Ezran immediately. He's an entitled, bigoted idiot who doesn't actually think things through and that actually makes him both incredibly annoying and very realistic, which actually makes me like him as an antagonist but still makes me let out a exasperated sigh every time he talks. Best part of him is that he's obsessed with going down in history as someone great when, with his actions, he's only going to pass down as the prince who tried to usurp his sister three times and failed the three times, each failure worse than the previous one. Lmao.

[toy-powerhouse]

I don't see how not wanting people to mess with your art is homophobic? Someone literally took kishi's art and changed it without her permission. That's rude, it doesn't make her homophobic to point that out and say she doesn't like that.

It's also incredibly rude to say that the person who sent you and ask in Russian clearly has ties to Kishi and bowandbrush. Kishi may be Russian but every time she types in Russian it doesn't look like that. It looks like this:

Интересно, как вы переведете это своим подписчикам? Сделаете ли вы точный перевод или не сделаете его вообще?

It is clear to me that you cannot stand anyone who has differing views than you. You are upset that bowandbrush is a Christian. A screenshot you posted just proves how she's not homophobic or transphobic. Her response to being asked if she'd be friends with a trans person was incredibly mature.

On top of that, it is her blog to share whatever she wishes. Block and move on. Stop making posts about these people who are just trying to live and enjoy their lives. She's not harming anyone. She's not pushing her beliefs, she's just sharing her thoughts and opinions same as you.

I've addressed most of this in another message.

That said, you don't even have your facts straight because if you had read any of my posts about mrabubu/Kishi being an anti-LGBTQ+ bigot, you'd know that no one had edited, defaced, or whatever her artwork. Someone just commented with "Y/N:❌️ Usagi:✅️" and that resulted in her rage spiraling and making many, many, many rants about how she's totally not homophobic all while being incredibly negative and spiteful toward any and all queer representation in the (Rot)TMNT fandom. Then, in the midst of all that ranting, she co-signed a homophobic tirade made by taringill/Vika and the rest is history.

I guess you're referring to when someone, likely a supporter of either mrabubu/Kishi or taringill/Vika, sent me a lovely, hateful message in which they called me homophobic slurs, around the time I made my first post criticizing them and bowandbrush/Lexie...

Yeah… They're both Russian, homophobic, and mrabubu/Kishi already had a fan basically pull this sort of stunt in the past on her behalf, too… So, um… Yeah, it's safe to say that message came from their fanbases.

Интересно, как вы переведете это своим подписчикам? Сделаете ли вы точный перевод или не сделаете его вообще? I wonder how you will translate this to your subscribers? Will you do an accurate translation or not at all?

Bowandbrush/Lexie is a homophobic and transphobic Christian who liked this post:

A person being transgender isn't a "lifestyle/belief" that can be disagreed with, it's a fact. Anyone who agrees with the above post wouldn't be a true friend to any trans or other queer person with the bigoted convictions they hold regarding such identities.

I'm upset that bowandbrush/Lexie is a homophobic and transphobic Christian. Being Christian doesn't inherently make someone homophobic/transphobic/anti-LGBTQ+. There are lots of Christians who are pro-LGBTQ+, affirming, and are openly LGBTQ+. I've said before and I'll say it again, even though, it should go without saying: any belief system that condemns marginalized people for simply being who they are is a deeply flawed belief system.

Okay, well, it's also my blog, so I can criticize whoever I wish. You also could’ve just blocked my account and moved on instead of sending me this asinine message. Us LGBTQ+ TMNT fans are just trying to live and enjoy our lives and would rather not engage with homophobes/transphobes when we're trying to momentarily escape the harsh realities of the anti-LGBTQ+ world we live in. The beliefs, thoughts, and opinions she half-heartedly attempts to hide are harmful and cause a lot of suffering for us LGBTQ+ people.

Now, politely shove off with your inane defenses for people who oppress me and other nice folk in the TMNT fandom.

[tirfpikachu]

sometimes i feel like, in certain cases, "detrans woman" and "nonbinary woman" ain't too different. and could even be used simultaneously by the same person without much issue. after all, isn't processing internalized misogyny and escaping the gender roles box for womanhood also a way someone can at the same time not feel like a binary man, not feel like a binary woman, but not feel like a not-woman either? after unlearning all the bullshit male society taught us, it can be destabilizing and create distance between us and other women. we might no longer feel like a normie woman. we've been awakened. we're no longer a gender roled woman, rolled up in everything she was taught she needed to be or she would fail at womanhood. we're an unfailible woman, we can't get a bad grade in womanhood bc we don't care about gender grades. we know it's all bullshit. we took back the power patriarchal society had over us. in that sense, we're not willingly binary anymore. and i think, over time, it's only going to get harder and harder to find women who are happily into the gender roles, the gender box assigned to them.

people fucking hate that, ofc. especially male people, and doubly so cis/bio men. they hate that we're awakened women. they hate that we found feminism and sisterhood and go detrans or use nonbinary in addition to woman, bc we reconnect with our body type and our upbringing. and by they, i mean both sides btw. the patriarchy hates that we found our power, of course. non-feminists scoff at us.

and... mainstream trans activists hate that our journey got us here, and hate how we make dysphoria seem curable in unmedical ways and transness more complex than they like to think. we complicate things. they hate that they found power in changing themselves (whatever makes them feel at peace ofc), while we tried to as well, but in the process we found our power was within us all along. we found that just being neutrally sexed animals, just female humans, female animals, girls the way that one calls a cat a sweet girl, cat first girl second, human first girl second... our bodies, our gender category, don't define us. anymore, anyways. anyone who defines us by our womanhood is a bigot, and we scrubbed our brains free of all the shit patriarchal brainwashing left in us. and for us, personally, it was enough to free us. that's not the case for anymore. some folks need more than that. some folks need to modify themselves beyond recognition to feel at peace with themselves. but i do hope they know that deep down, they were always good beings all along. i hope they know that gender is bullshit and sex says nothing about anyone's worth, personality, goals, interests, etc. it says fuckall about any of that. i don't care if i get a male or female rabbit. a rabbit is a rabbit. if i feel affection for a new pet, our connection is what matters [*]. i would never assign someone gender roles based on their sex. but it's sadly done way too often by parents and male society. if you're trans, temporarily or forever, you gotta clean up all your internalized misogyny and sexism/gncphobia. find kinship with other female people, or male gnc people if you're male. just check off some boxes. clean everything up. deep-clean your mind and your heart first.

[*] insert tras here being like, "why can't you be like that about dating? you dirty close-minded terfy homo dyke? why can't you love beyond genitals? beyond just bodies?" and these days i laugh and laugh and laugh at that shit because wow they have zero clue!! they don't know the sense of peace at having my female/afab body against another female/afab body, at knowing we were born the same, at knowing we went thru the same growing up, at knowing we understand eachother so, so deeply without saying a word bc she is what i am, she is where i have been, and i have suffered as she has suffered, and we are a love born of the connection all female beings share, the connection of bio dick havers treating us as prey. not knowing we're more powerful than they could ever dream of. do bodies like ours not hold the godly powers of creation itself? are we not gods in the literal sense, born creators, who get to choose if a new life should be made? do we not hold the future in the palm of our hand? to the dismay of penised beings? and do me and my beloved not love eachother only the way two gods could love one another, knowing the struggle, knowing the power? is the patriarchy not fighting tooth and nail to control us, wrestle us into submission before their phallic altar? do they not know it's impossible, for everything in us would dry up at the sight? do they not know that we can rely on sisterhood to get us through fucking anything? do they not know we masculinized ourselves and found ourselves happily female anyway? do they not know that i'd love her with a beard and five eyes, but if she was reborn male we would not be the same people to begin with (tho ofc i like to think the bodyswapped versions of us would have a love story too, we would not be us anymore, not this timeline's love story, she would be a different version of her and i would miss our og love)? because what is anyone without memories, and aren't childhood memories, puberty memories, some of the experiences most affected by one's body type (under the patriarchy), some of the most developmentally significant memories of all? is female just genitalia and estrogen puberty to tras, to "hearts not parts" type folks?

is female just a meat suit and not also the life experiences linked to it, our upbringing, a rich female culture one is born into? trans women might be immigrants into this female culture if they pass post-transition, they might get the exact body, but they just don't know the culture the way born into it do. any transfem will admit being transfem is hard, it's hard to merge into female culture when they self-admittedly don't know much about it. anyone not having been born into this culture, not being fluent the way only a native resident of femaleness can be, will show signs of it even if it's been 50+ years. you can't just wipe someone's upbringing clean, your past always leaves traces, and a transfem wouldn't be able to bond with other female4female lesbians on basic female upbringing things... when those are the things that make being into other female ppl so attractive for many of us! we just get eachother. we understand without even saying anything. we understand female body issues. there's a warm sense of peace emanating from that knowledge in my heart, knowing me and my girlfriend were born the same. we went through so many of the same things, all the good and the bad sides of growing up female. and i find that attractive as hell, and it brings me immense joy in life. there's so many inside jokes a transfem just wouldn't get the way my gf can. and i unfortunately need to add, since people get defensive, that this isn't shaming the transfem for not having those experiences. i hope the transfem will come to terms with not being female too. she can be a woman in society, but she's not born this way, she's an immigrant into womanhood, and that's okay. she still needs to let lesbians who are only into people raised female enjoy our unique sexuality that she just can't understand. i can't understand the transfem4transfem experience either. so what? isn't lgbt or 2slgbtqia+ or whatever culture all about inclusion and diversity in sexuality and gender expression? what about those who are girls the way animals are girls? we hate gender roles but we're personally definining cis womanhood as being female animals, female humans? what's so twisted about that? what about female4female lesbians? transmasc4transmasc can exist, why not us? why make everything so stupidly complicated for no reason? why shame us for how we were born, for being into others like ourselves?

i pity them, honestly. watch them bring girldick and male upbringing experiences to female4female lesbians, watch as we'll all dry up like the dying succulents on our windowsills and sip drinks laughing at the naked male bodies before us because they're so unsexual to us homodykes. watch as we raise eyebrows at the male's lack of misogyny in her upbringing, her lack of expertise on female culture, and just... everything that's so fundamentally unappealing to us. we can be friends. we can be allies. thankfully though, sex and marriage isn't activism. you can't play woke in the sheets. if you do, that's honestly sad. love isn't political. heteros made it political, but love is just love. and the love between two female people is normal. boring at times, even. we're normies. and if mainstream tras can't see that, well, maybe they have issues to work through in therapy. idk.

if two dysphoric ppl working through really hard shit end up feeling at peace with being female animals, female humans, and loving one another, if that's threatening, if that's bigoted, if that's twisted, well...

we detrans chicks and homodykes will find our own place to hangout. and we'll be nice to your faces, of course, but behind doors we're having a blast with others like ourselves. people like us have done this for as long as humanity has been alive, anyways. we always go underground and make it work anyhow. radblr is proof of that. idc if i have to go door to door checking if any homodyke is there, or if i have to comb thru tra spaces to find cool detrans folks, i will find others like me. that's what the marginalized have always done.

we're like lizards. we'll just find a cooler rock to party under🦎✌️

[a-student-out-of-time]

I'm extremely curious about your post regarding staffside. Would you like to elaborate? No pressure!

//Well I can't say I've read much beyond the halfway point of Part 1 and there's still a lot to go, so I'm really just getting started. But there's still a lot that I can talk about.

//I will be honest and say that I initially didn't really understand what role Staffside has. Not in the sense of "Ugh, why does this exist?" but in the sense of "What are we meant to take away from reading this story?" Especially since it's apparently not mandatory viewing.

//I was also way more skeptical of it when people said it was good but also very dark and upsetting. The subject matter alone is not very appealing to me.

//I fully acknowledge that's not any of the creators' fault, that's a me problem. I've unfortunately come across so many stories that discuss things like SA and power imbalances very clumsily, very poorly and very tastelessly. Yes, the goal is typically to show that these acts are evil and do great harm to people, but I'd say the vast majority of writers are not equipped to really handle it.

//They often throw these into stories for the sake of shock value and drama, rarely actually trying to sit down and discuss why these things happen and what effects they have on the people affected. Some do it better than others, but it's a topic you need to really understand before you try tackling it, and many writers who try may think all it takes is the bravery to do so. It does not.

//I'm not excluding myself from that list either. I've tried to address topics like SA here on ASOOT, and while I feel like I did an okay job, I know I could've done better. I've been very apprehensive about discussing this topic because I don't feel equipped to do so and I never want to resort to something that traumatizing as just drama fodder.

//In my opinion, if the writer's goal is JUST to show that a villain is cruel or evil, having them be a rapist or a bigot is a very cheap and tasteless way to do it. There's a fine line between writing about these things and using very serious, trauma-inducing topics just to leverage an emotional response from an audience.

//It's the difference between how Pennywise in IT can be read as a representation of the intergenerational trauma that comes from things like discrimination vs. just having your villain dropping slurs to show that they're a bad person.

//But in Staffside, it's not drama fodder. None of this exists just to make Kan more hateable or to horrify and gross out the audience. Staffside is about this stuff, why it happens and how it affects the people involved. It's about how the people behind this game aren't a bunch of faceless unfeeling monsters, but actual people who were drawn into a situation and then given no way out.

//There's so much care devoted to making the facility feel like an actual toxic work environment rather than a den of evil. Yes, the people involved ARE active perpetrators of a monstrous crime, but it addresses their humanity, their flaws, their fears, and what little comforts they can find with each other.

//When Kan assaults people, it's never treated as fodder to make him seem more evil. It's given actual weight and we see how it affects people like Dr. Suga and Dr. Hattori, how afraid people are, the fact that those who aren't involved feel qualified to judge it and dismiss it in favor of Kan's role within this project. There are many layers to it and the consequences are still ongoing.

//That is very, very rare to see, and I have to commend Von Babbitt as a writer. But I have to say, for me, it almost works too well.

//Another big reason I initially didn't want to read Staffside was because I'm an empathetic person who hates injustice and doesn't like seeing people in pain. If there are genuinely good people here, like I'd been told many times, I knew I wasn't going to want to see them go through hell.

//Again, it turns out it's much more nuanced than that, but I still feel apprehensive about reading this sometimes because it's so depressing and visceral and cruel. And unfortunately very realistic with how these crimes aren't taken seriously. Which just makes me upset.

//I was expecting more of the equivalent of Kan holding a gun to their heads and forcing them to do horrible things. Instead, he deliberately injuries people, makes them physically and mentally dependent on him, and makes them do bad things before they even realize what they're done and convinces them it's too late to go back now. The people here are denied control over everything.

//To me, that's more horrifying and upsetting than just dropping in an assault scene for the sake of drama. It's genuinely difficult to read at times and I have to stop frequently because I'm left with so many ugly feelings. As we all should when faced with something as vile as sexual violence.

//Not that it's all doom and gloom. I do like the relationships we have with the interns, even if I have mixed feelings about some of them as people. I'm not sure how that will change over time, but I am curious to see.

//Tl;dr- Staffside is incredibly good at what it sets out to do and I absolutely hate reading it. That's a compliment from me, I promise : P

[weaselbeaselpants]

I'm tired

It's hard to call myself anything more than an observer of drama because that's absolutely what I am. But I have been here awhile in both the Helluvaverse-critical spaces and the Lily Orchard-call out ones. It hurts seeing the people I trust and consider resourceful in one space be bad-mouthed, lied about and called horrible things in another over their support/dislike of SaiScribbles.

Sai is not an essayist. She's a reaction-channel art steamer. I personally didn't even care or could really make it through her pro-SU vids taking down Lorch's bs, and I like that show, so I don't really care what she says in simping for the show and fandom that grinds my gears. Since she apparently hasn't gone into KenDraws', Faustisse's*, Salem's* or Malcom's* accounts I personally don't think she knows everything she thinks there is to know about either Viv or Rebecca Sugar. I think Sai thinks she knows better than everyone else because she happens to be better at understanding media she likes than Lily Orchard does the things she hates.

This attitude, and also that time a few months back where she agreed with the rube telling me that Palestine-campaigns are all scams, really rub me the wrong way and it's why I blocked Sai. She legit she hurt me by talking down to me (regardless of if she meant to or not) and I don't want anything but to personally not look at her icon as much as I can. I think Sai's Lily coverage is a net positive but I personally don't like her. It just sucks because there are a lot of those other people I do think are better resources about Orchard's abuse, and those people do like Sai. I'm not gonna tell them what to do and how they're evil if they don't do what I want them to do or whatever cuz ohmyfuckinggodwe'reADULTS why are we acting like this??

I also definitely know that Sai DID NOT "dress up as Lily" or "give money to Lily". In reality another critic of Lily gave Lily a superchat, not 'for the lulz' but to confront Lilz on why she sent him a multiple death threats, (which is also the current reason Lily's been banned from Tumblr, I believe). What Sai did was make a parody of Lily's video style for April Fools. Courtney Orchard, Lily's irl abused sibling whom everyone in the critical sphere does believe the accounts of, lashed out at Sai and anyone doing parody artwork of Lily, insisting that it's the same as "giving Lily fanart". I have to highkey disagree on that, regardless of how I feel. Courtney and ILoveKimPossibleALot -who's leaked a lot of private calls and info she was told to keep private- are lying that Sai ever supported Lily in anyway. That is untrue. For all the biases that may exist in me that part is just untrue, sns.

A sad fact is even without Sai, Courtney has been very volatile of different people including other victims of Lily Orchard's ab*se. Courtney's also (as of this time) set on partnering with LioConvoy to take Lily down, a streamer Court disowned but then backtracked on and is supporting despite his own bigoted/abusive behaviors.

There's in-fighting. And I just hate it. I can't ask us all the work together and be besties I'm not your guys' lifecoach. I only know, because I know how quick others are to start accusing people of saying this, that Sai nor Viv nor Courtney are the same kind of beast as Lillian CD-Call Orchard. They are nail bombs; Lily's atomic. SU and Helluvaverse is what I come to rag on cuz I don't have a life; Orchard (also Patricia Taxxon) need to get out of my damn life and my mind. I want to unsee them and the work they made so much. They're what this is actually about.

***keep reading

If you're wondering why the I put an asterisk * on those links above it's because sadly a receipt/drama thread on twitter is the only places you can find Malcom, Salem's and Faustisse's accounts on what it was like working at Spindlehorse on. All of them were forced off twitter/deleted their accounts because of harassment from Viv's base. Don't @ me over how I chose I 'biased source', it's sadly through archiving, call outs and KiwiFarms threads that the "proof" people are talking about is often able to exist.

If Sai has the right to read Erin Frost's receipts and call them bull than I have the right to read through those same receipts and say "this really doesn't look photoshopped/out of context to me:"

[myfandomrealitea]

ok I’ll be honest, I was one of the people who approached your safe space post with the mindset “yeah, but…” like, I now whole-heartedly agree that there should absolutely be fandom spaces devoid of real world issues. We all need our spaces to rest and relax. I think I just felt weird about your post because previously ive been in fandom spaces which did operate on the (perfectly fine) rule of ‘no politics’…but ‘politics’ would also include talking about a gay ship or any queer headcannons.

That obviously wasn’t fair to you because you obviously didn’t mean that w/ your post, but I can personally see as to why some people would feel that way if they were in similar fandom spaces. I do still want to reiterate I do agree with your post and I think some of the rebloggers took it…a bit far? Like Jesus Christ some of y’all need to eat a snickers. I also think some of the wording like “bitching about world issues” and “whining about their shitty parents” might’ve thrown me off but that’s not your fault and really a non-issue 🤷🏽‍♀️

you can delete this ask if you want I really won’t mind, I think I can just see as to why there were so many ‘yeah, but…’ rebloggers.

I actually really appreciate asks like this. For a multitude of reasons, but also because it gives really good insight and outer perspective for both me and other people who are aware of or involved in the discussion.

I think what a lot of people don't yet grasp about me is that while I may hold an opposing view to yours (general, not directed), in the vast majority of cases I still very much understand why people would think the way they do and where that thought process comes from and goes.

Its very, very easy to fall into the mindset of thinking that not helping when you have the ability to makes you a bad person or however in/directly causes suffering. Its very easy to be in the mindset of one single individual making a magnitude of difference.

I fully and genuinely understand and comprehend a lot of the points being brought up.

I just don't agree with them and hold a different outlook on those issues.

For example:

Talking about enjoying a queer ship to me is not 'political' in the sense that, personally, if you're a homophobe and upset by generic conversations about queer people, I really could not give a fuck. And if you raise objections to me talking about two dudes kissing, I'm simply going to remove you from my space because clearly it is not beneficial for either of us to share it. And I made it.

Its obviously very very much down to personal discretion to decide where that line is and what that bracket encompasses, but I think the most universal aspect of that safe space post was trying to get people to understand that forcing others to suffer in solidarity isn't activism and that strangers are not obligated to allow you to use them as support and a dumping ground for your needs.

Spreading around videos of people's dead loved ones isn't activism.

Spamming taglines and buzzwords on completely unrelated posts and videos isn't activism.

Relying on complete strangers for emotional and mental support and regulation while dumping vulnerable, graphic, personal information on them is neither safe nor healthy.

People are not obligated to smother or confine their happiness because of your misery. If you're having a bad day you have no right to tell other people they can't be happy in front of you.

A lot of people, mostly white knighters and people of color took the post as "a white privileged pig saying its okay to let racism slide because you want to play your video games" (actual hate mail I received) and that's so laughably and wildly far from the actual basis of the post.

I've had bigots in my servers before. Homophobes or racists who've slipped through the cracks.

You know what happens when they say something homophobic or racist?

They're immediately removed, blocked and reported, and their information is placed in a private document I keep. I issue an apology to the members of the server for their actions, and life goes on.

People are, of course, entitled to take the post as they see fit. They're entitled to their own perspectives and opinions. I'm more than happy to simply focus on the people who have taken support, guidance and solace in the post.

[solisitude]

PSA to The Maruaders fandom

Not liking a headcanon, popular or not, does not make a person a bigot. Surprising, I know! But it really doesn't.

There's been TONS of discourse lately over transfem sirius and I would like to give my opinion on it. If you like the headcanon, that's fine, good for you!! If you do not like the headcanon, that is also fine. Not liking the headcanon does NOT make someone transphobic and if you think it does you need to rethink your views on life because what the actual fuck. Apparently people also claim that not liking transfem sirius is misogynistic and if you genuinely think that BOY do you need a wake up call. If one person can genuinely argue how either of those points makes even vague sense, I will consider changing my mind, however, as I actually have a fucking clue of what bigotry really is, I dont see that happening in the near future.

In the same way, this applies to almost every headcanon, including not hc james as queer or even as desi (no, that does not make you racist, please fucking get over yourselves) or hc-ing remus as disabled.

I would like to point out, however, that if you do enjoy any of these headcanons, its absolutely fine!! I even enjoy quite a few of them myself including pan, desi james and genderfluid sirius!! You should also post about them on your own platforms as much as you like and engage in media with the same headcanons!! You should NOT, however, argue and hate on people who post about not liking them, because just as it is your prerogative to like something, its their prerogative to like something else and neither of those times is it hurting anyone. It is also your prerogative to post about stuff you don't like!! Just do it on your OWN platform and not one someone elses.

At the end of the day, they're all fictional, let's have a little decorum, okay?

[this-is-exorsexism]

"i'm nonbinary, i can't be exorsexist."

this is exorsexism.

curious. so what about all the discourse about who's dysphoric enough, who experiences the right or wrong kind of dysphoria, who's "too close" to their AGAB, who uses the right or wrong pronouns, who medically transitions and who doesn't, who is transgender enough or not? what about all the people saying nonbinary means having no gender, nonbinary means being in between binary genders, nonbinary is a single third gender, nonbinary is synonymous with gender abolitionism? what about the deliberate misgendering and mocking of people who use neopronouns, use uncommon gender labels or simply don't "look nonbinary enough"? what about the fact that there's a truscum movement by nonbinary people? what about constantly being forced into different binaries, transmasc/transfem, man/non-man, woman/non-woman, cisgender/transgender etc.? what about the erasure of exorsexism and specific nonbinary struggle itself? what about people framing their own personal experiences as universal and invalidate anyone who doesn't fit them? what about the hate for gender labels that "don't go together"? what about attraction to nonbinary people being called a fetish because apparently the idea that we can just be loved is inconceivable? what about the fact that whichever way a nonbinary person labels their orientation gets hate, we can't be gay/lesbian despite history because we're "misgendering ourselves", we can't be bi because it's "exclusionary", we can't be straight because it "doesn't make sense", we can't be trixic/toric because they're "made up labels"? what about people saying "non-transmascs/non-transfems need to stfu about x" despite x being something that also affects nonbinary people who aren't transmasc/transfem but we either have to be misgendered or excluded?

all of these things and many more are things i've seen nonbinary people say and do do other nonbinary people.

and, what about internalised exorsexism?

exorsexism is ubiquitous. it's impossible to grow up and not learn exorsexist ideas. while realising one's own nonbinarity will often burst a large bubble of exorsexism, it doesn't magically erase all the exorsexism one has learned. like unlearning any oppression, that takes active listening to people. you'd think it wouldn't be that hard if they're your own community, but unfortunately some nonbinary people surround themselves with nonbinary people who are exactly like them, or binary transgender people to lick their boots and try to assimilate.

the idea that you can't be part of an oppressed group and hold bigoted views against that group has been debunked countless of times. it's just a lazy excuse for not needing to learn and grow.