#Aph thrace

[estbela]

Guess what :]

[peonycats]

Ancients Chibis!

from top to bottom, left to right:

Illyria, Iberia (+bby Port), Etruria (more accurately, Tarquinia), Dacia

Thrace, Numidia (more accurately, Masaesyli), Persia/Iran, Gaul

Pontus, Kush, Judea, Ancient Libya

Obligatory disclaimer that Illyria, Iberia, Dacia, Thrace, Gaul, and Ancient Libya had other personifications due to the number of diverse tribes inhabiting these regions they’re just standing in as overall representatives haha

These are just some cute ancients chibis I’ve been working on! If there’s interest, I might turn them into stickers hehe, but for now I’m pretty satisfied with how these designs turned out, and I definitely want to draw them more later!

[empireofdacia]

What if your sister, Thrace, never comes back?

What if I break every bone in your body?

I suggest you keep quiet, grey-face. She will return. Sooner or later, she will return.

[estbela]

Thrace: I’m gonna kill you!

Rome: Get in line!

[estbela]

Can you tell us more about your Dacia and Thracia? :0

Yeah!!!!! Thanks for asking!!!! :D

They're like. Really old OCs. I created them at arouns 13 years old, back when I had first joined the famdom haha. They have changed a lot since then, though.

They basically have an older brother and younger sister relationship, with Thrace being older and Dacia being the younger sister.

Both have a weird relationship with gender and stuff, but looking at Romania, that sort of seems to run in the family.

I'd say out of both of them, Thrace is probably the more shy one.

Dacia is very loud and brash and stuff, at least at first. But she means well. Usually.

They both enjoy being menaces to Rome and sort of have a weird complicated relationship with him (Thrace & Rome could be toxic AND tragic yaoi, I think)

dacia is fair haired with blue eyes, and thrace has brown dark hair and has blue eyes, but with a sort of green tint to them.

Dacia is basically Romania's mom, and Thrace was Bulgaria's parental figure with questionable morality before he died.

Also I think they don't always get along, I see them, especially as they both grew up(and having somewhat different personalities), getting in arguments very often. I mean they did as kids too, yknow how siblings when theyre kids often get in fights.

But even so, they did genuinely care for eachoter.

That's it. Well, I have a lot more thoughts about them but I don't remember a lot of them at the moment.

[estbela]

Thrace: You know, I used to play back in my gory days. Bulgaria: You mean glory days? Thrace: Ah, that too.

[estbela]

I don't talk about him much, but i think sometimes about my Thrace OC (like, the civilisation I mean)

Originally, I was gonna give him dark brown hair but I have been thinking about giving him dark red hait since he would look too similar to Bulgaria (since they both would have green eyes).

Personality wise, he's kind of like Bulgaria, although perhaps a tad more neurotic. And also really into fighting and poetry. And jewelry.

And also he had children. Some survived to the modern era, some died sadly. Bulgaria is not his child, thought he grew fond of him and was a kind of morally questionable...parental figure to him in his dying days.

Also the concept of Thrace as a ghost/spirit coming to visit Bulgaria at certain points in his life and talk to him, maybe give him questionable advice, is kinda fun.

Also again, personality wise they can both be similar, which is funny becuase at times I imagine they could piss eachoter off and annoy eachoter(and if I wrote a story with them, there would be so many character parallels between them). So it would be them really getting pissed off at traits they themselves have.

Alsoooo. Since I see Ro as being kind of Dacia's child, and Dacia is Thrace's sister...I can just see Thrace seeing Bul & interact with Ro and just being like "NO. NO. NOOOOO" because he's not exactly happy about the idea of his weird kind-of adopted child possibly getting together in the future with his sister's child (and he might be a tad protective of Dacia's children since she kind of dies before him, even tho she is his younger sister and he feels like he's failed her. So he deals with it by coming a bit overprotective of what he considers to be the last remnants of her)

[estbela]

Dacia having pet wolves...well tehnically theyre not pets as much as they are wolves who follow her around and are somewhat omnious(to other people). Also foxes maybe? Idk she deserves all the animals <3

[estbela]

thrace is like, one of those people that is sort of a poet that never even wrote (down) a poem. The thracians were apparently known for their poetey and such, but none of it has survived, so that's my interpretation of it. And also because he's literally me(well, to be fair I did write some poems, so I guess I'm better). Idk I think he'd be kinda annoying about it. Also, they were known for music too.

I also think there's something there, that the thracians were both known for being both superior fighters and for their poetry and music. Thrace is sort of a complex guy, I'd say.

[estbela]

The thracians, despite being thought of as mostly bloodthirsty warriors and such, were known for their music and poetry! Funnily enough, Orpheus sometimes said to have thracian origins (but it's not very likely). This is why my Thrace OC is someone who, while he is very good in the battlefield, he is also very passionate about the arts-music and poetry. He definitely had the heart of one

(Dacia & Getae probably were too)

[estbela]

Some of my OCs!!!! (Don't think too much about the clothing, it's just there and probs not historically accurate).

Wanted to draw how they look like in my head, Dacia & Thrace & the Getae. I'll probably change some stuff later idk not truly happy with how they look

Also this is Thrace but at a time when he was younger since I think when he grows into an adult he probs grows a beard

(Notes under the cut)

they're...siblings in the weird nation way.

Thrace's hair probably darkens even more as he grows up since I see him as having darker hair as an adult dbdhhddj

The Getae & Dacia might have been the same, or might have been very strongly related but I chose the make 2 OCs for them

(And I don't really have OCs for them yet, but I do think all the tribes that made up the dacians & the thracians also had personifications)

Dacia's slight resemblance to Romania was intended haha

Might change Thrace's eye colour idk

dacia would have probably worse some kind of head scarf or had her hair tied up but I wanted to draw her with her hair down

Idk can't think of anything else to say atm

[estbela]

Dacia: I wish I could control wasps and bees to sting my enemies. Thrace: You’re too young to have enemies. Dacia: You don’t even know.

[estbela]

Anyway. I wanna talk about Thrace again, sort of.

The ancient greeks believed that the thracians were the sons of Ares(ancient greek god of war and other stuff I think), because of how warlike they were, and thus, was regarded as the patron of Thrace. Apaprently, he had a son named Thrax (name which literally translates to 'thracian'), but 'Thrax' was also one of his epithets (his golden or gilded shield was kept in his temple at Bistonia in Thrace).

Anyway, I've been thinking that maybe, some humans (and perhaps the personification of Ancient Greece herself) might have considered him to be that Thrax. Idk I just think Ancient Greece would maybe refer to him as Thrax, perhaps as a nickname of sorts (or perhaps because she really did believe him to be the son of Ares?). Also, at one point it was believed that the thracians would have been very strong if they weren't so divided, and were in very big numbers at one point.

I dunno. I think all his life his strenght and fighting skills were what was most appreciated about him, sometimes even by his own people. I think he would have liked to do stuff like singing and making poetry and jewelry more, instead of going to war. For someone who constantly battled people, I don't think he ever enjoyed it. Partly because he had to deal with it since he was a young child.

He was mostly apathetic to it. Probably just thought a lot about how he can't wait to go back to his family and friends after it's over, how he would rather create than destroy. And then, what was most appreciated about him, him being a good warrior, was taken away from him along with freedom, and it's not as if that's the only thing he's good at, but it's the only thing most people think he's good at.

Also, I think he doesn't want anyone to go through what he went since he was a child, especially children, but he still taught all kids he took care of how to fight very well and revealed to them the atrocities of war etc when they were very young since that's kind of the only way he knows how to protect them, by making them strong enough so they will be able to defend themselves. Like, he knows having having to face wars from such a young age screwed him up (even if he's a nation) but has no other idea on how to raise kids, at least not until later in life.

Is this coherent? Tbh I'm still working on him so uh.

[estbela]

ALSO I think I've decided I want to change Thrace's design. Idk I just feel like he'd look better with brown hair

Thing is, the thracians having red hair was a thing believed by the ancient greeks, who often made a lot of legendary figures from the greek myths that were thought to have been from Thrace, red-haired, but I read that having brown hair would be more accurate.

I sort of knew that for a long time, but I thought him having red hair would be a fun nod to the myths, but I dunno, I think him having brown hair would suit him far better.

[peonycats]

The (known) World According to Rome

Came across a funny map of the Roman Empire a while back, and had a lotta fun doing this lil piece!

Quick Historical Notes:

I drew them on here for funsies and to have easily recognizable characters, but I don’t think Germania, Gaul, or Britannia ever existed- it was probably just a case of Rome having face blindness and calling every tribe he encountered “Germania!”/etc. There were dozens of tribes who made up these places, but that’s a lot harder to draw and boil down into quippy remarks- think of these fellas on the map as the “germania/britannia/gaul” of the day lmao

Iberia was probably a similar case too, but I know like. nothing about carthaginian/roman spain wheezes. Whatever the case, Iberia probably didnt represent the whole peninsula!

I had to guess so fucking much with the clothes, ESPECIALLY w north western europe and saba!! take half of this as a grain of salt and do your own research!!!

Close Ups:

(sorry babes you just couldnt fit into a nice big crop 😔)

[empireofdacia]

(( DAMMIT WHY AM I REBLOGGING SO MANY THRACE-RELATED THINGS SOMEONE MAKE A THRACE RP BLOG FOR HETALIA IT CAN BE A MAMA OR PAPA THRACE, I DOESN'T MATTER NOW. PLEASE.))