#Thracia

[salt-n-eve]

Nanna 💛

[memie-art-blog]

Sara for @/mugenkaeru. Thank you for your vote!

[racecarart]

“Kate… Thanks for…everything… Go home…to Thracia…” ~Eda's death quote.

[blazerwyvernmaster]

Can someone draw this?

Tina just stole a fucking ballistic weapon.

[howsublime]

This drawing is based on a fascinating design I saw on a Thracian helmet from fourth century BCE. While the symbolism might have been of conquest, power, and abundance, in my view the magical bird represents protection and guidance to a safer place. I hand printed my digitized drawing on a Risograph using golden ink and it came out great. Few prints are available here.

[estbela]

Thrace: I’m gonna kill you!

Rome: Get in line!

[ablushingprince]

some of my latest thracians

[fesapphiczine]

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Today's preview takes us through the generations of Jugdral! Don your knight ring and make sure you don't get left behind before preorders close!

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[ayumitsuu]

Is this illegal? Am I committing a felony? 🤣😜

Prince Quan does not look amused with me. 😅

I have Ethlyn +10 but I sadly do not have Leif to complete the fam jam 🥲

[claire4545]

A commission for Juniper of Misha from FE5.

[nadjaerna]

Gold earring, 250–200 BCE, Sinemorets, Bulgaria.

This earring was found in the tumulus burial of a Thracian elite woman, alongside other elaborate gold jewelry. On its surface is an extremely ornate depiction of the winged Greek goddess Nike on a chariot pulled by a pair of horses. The representation and style indicate that the earring was produced in a Greek workshop, possibly in the Greek colonies on the Black Sea coast.

[fe-sibling-duo-tournament]

Losers Round 1 Masterpost

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WELCOME TO THE LOSERS BRACKET! WOO!

Some housekeeping things for the tournament:

Double Elimination format (so there will be a loser's bracket)

Propaganda is allowed and heavily encouraged! Submit propaganda either through the reblogs/replies of a match or in this blog's submissions box! Propaganda will be featured!

Please tag propaganda with #propaganda when you reblog!

That being said, please be nice about the propaganda. Any kind of attack on an opposing sibling duo must clearly read as light-hearted, and absolutely no attacking other people (eg don't say things like "If you actually like so-and-so duo, you're stupid")

Please don't be mean if your duo gets sent to losers bracket or eliminated. Nobody likes sore losers.

Losers Round 1 matches are open and hyperlinked!.

Losers Round 1:

Timerra & Fogado vs. Veyle & Nel

Edelgard & Dimitri vs. Michalis & Minerva

Hinoka & Sakura vs. Holst & Hilda

Triandra & Peony vs. Camilla & Elise

Lysithea & Edelgard vs. Nel & Rafal

Leif & Altena vs. Franz & Forde

Oscar & Rolf vs. Julia & Seliph

Karel & Karla vs. Lugh & Raigh

[memie-art-blog]

My final character for the Thracia Cast Project is Reinhardt! I'm excited to see how everyone loves this project!

[skelezomperman]

Have you ever considered part of the reason that Altena's writing is rather garbage is that she is part of an oppressed group (Thracians) and all the stops are pulled to make the oppressors (the Northern houses) look to be as equal or even good in the narrative?

FE4's narration straight up says that the people of Thracia WANT to be ruled by the Leonster houses AGAIN (implying this was the case before), when we know this not to be true and very unlikely for Thracians to want this. We are never shown what New Thracia looks like aside from the people being unified. But it's worth asking ourselves, unified under whose terms? Arion steps down, and Leif gets to be King. I don't think Leif would be a bad king for Thracians, but it's hard for an oppressed people to simply accept the same oppressors willingly even if they had a change of heart.

FEH Altena focuses more on her Leonster identity and simply calls out Travant for his "savage" nature. Travant, despite his flaws, is engaged in a war of liberation against his oppressors. His cause is just, and that is quite literally all that matters. The Aed Massacre and every single act of violence Thracians perform against the North, while tragic, is nothing compared to the mundane violence Thracians undergo every minute of every day for the past few decades now. If not for how incredibly loaded the word is, I'd be pressed to say it is a genocide.

Altena's character in FE4/5 exists as it does because she's "one of the good ones" and serves as a collaborator to make us forget the righteous cause of the Thracian people in favor for a nebulous negative peace where Thracians and Northerners just sit down and get along rather than any real restorative justice.

First of all, I want to compliment you on being willing to ask tough questions about the Jugdral games. I don't entirely agree with your assessment but I'm happy that people are willing to look at it with a critical eye. It's necessary to be willing to do this in order to be honest. For the rest of the answer I'll go through each of your points individually.

I actually have an unreleased essay about viewing Jugdral through an ethnographic lens which I'm planning to release later this year as part of a larger work. I won't summarize the entire essay but I don't personally think the developers intended to make a serious effort to portray prejudices in the Jugdral games. FE5 sheds more light on the relationship between the North and South of Thracia, but in FE4 I feel like there wasn't much thought put into portraying Southern Thracians as "oppressed."

Moving on, there seems to be an inconsistency here. FE4 Chapter 8 says that "the people" wish to be unified under Leonster, but FE4 Chapter 9 says that "[Southern] Thracia's people hardly offer Seliph an eager welcome." I wonder if Chapter 8 is referring to the Munster District rather than the peninsula as a whole but I couldn't find anything to support that theory of mine. I do agree that Leif's ending is not "happily ever after" and he will have difficulties unifying Thracia even with the Thracian-raised Altena being an asset to his effort. That said, I don't want to single out Leif or even FE4/FE5 for this. Most games just say "the lord ruled happily ever after" and don't go in-depth into postgame worldbuilding issues that may crop up (e.g., Marth needing to consolidate power after every other ruler in Archanea abdicates). I do see Altena as someone who would advocate for the Southerners under a unified Thracia and help cater to them rather than someone who imposes the North's rule, but I admit that's headcanon. I'd also note that FE5 does go out of its way to have August teach Leif about the suffering the Thracians go through - to me, this leads to the idea that Leif will make good on the mistakes of his father and grandfather.

It definitely does look bad that Altena calls Travant "savage" in FEH, I'll agree there. I do want to make a point that Travant is the only non-generic Thracian who really does this "savage" behavior (not counting generic bosses like Coulter). Arion does continue to fight Seliph after his father's death but that's because of him being stubborn and indecisive more than any wish to harm innocents. In FE5, Arion also acts as a sort of white knight to save Tarrah from being captured by the Empire. Then we have Dean and Eda who outright join Leif's army with Arion's consent no less. The brutality of the Kingdom of Thracia is more about Travant personally than it is about the nation at large in my opinion. I don't think the game really shows all Thracians as being bad. If my memory serves me right, the only person who says prejudiced things about Thracians as a people is Quan with the "hyenas" comment - not Leif, not Dryas, not August, not Lewyn, not even Finn.

Let me finish at your central point which is that the games look over an oppression by the Munster District and goes out of its way to make Thracia look bad. I can't say I agree with this point; in fact, I think the game does quite the opposite. Even in FE4, Lewyn delivers a lecture in Chapter 8 to mention the poverty that Thracia suffers. FE5 goes out of its way to create more worldbuilding to add justification to their animosity towards the North with the food embargos. The point of Travant is that the player is supposed to feel bad for him while still rejecting his brutality. FE4 is very on the nose with that narrative. I think it's fair to think that he isn't a complete villain; he still wants what is best for his people more than anything else. But I can't just say "he was justified because of what the North did" and leave it as that because that erases the central conflict behind Travant as a character. The player is supposed to ask whether his senseless violence is justified and it's supposed to be an open question. You can't make Travant out to be a bloodthirsty villain nor can you say that he was in the right because Quan was worse; you must retain that complexity behind Travant in order for the character to work. And that complexity does exist! It's simplistic, maybe, but FE4 and FE5 at least make an effort there to show both sides of this question. Maybe you could argue it shouldn't be pushing one answer but at least it goes more in-depth there.

As for Altena, I personally have a much bigger problem with the perceived lack of agency with regards to Arion than with her participation in the Thracian worldbuilding. The worldbuilding could be perfect but I'd still have a problem if the relationship with Arion was the same. But thank you for providing me the opportunity to answer.

[thehydrakehydra]

What's your dream FE content? Like the ship, the scenario, the setting (where and about what, etc). For example I don't know [insert your favorite ship here] having a pillow fight or something.

Hmm. I don't really have any for non-canon timeline (so like, not medieval lol) at least not now, and not really any "dream"-level type of content, but there is some stuff I think would be cool/cute/funny:

General post-canon Marth/Caeda stuff. Maybe their wedding. I think it'd be cute

More post-canon Marth/Caeda, with Tiki essentially as their adopted daughter

Post-canon FE4/FE5 where Finn does find Lachesis in the Yied, and they finally talk and stuff. Whether they stay as a couple [if they were together before] or choose to remain friends doesn't really matter, just give Finn some closure lol

Finally, a crack idea:

Dimitri and Ash (from FEH, not 3H) ate weeds together (since Ash is a cow lol)

[blazerwyvernmaster]

So uhh

I made a tier list

I don't know if I have the right to rate some of these characters (went down the A route, didn't want illios, got ced, etc)

But uhh

If y'all wanna judge me, IM ALL EARS