#Anti pokemon fandom

[kawaiitail-chan]

The REAL reason why Iris is hated (and sometimes misty too)

when you ask someone from the pokeani fandom (usually a straight white cis male) what their favorite pokegirls is, they reply with misty, may, dawn, or Serena but almost NEVER iris

Iris is considered the worst travelling companion in the fandom and you may ask why?

Well, the answer is quite simple actually;

Racism and misogyny

"B-but!!!! I'm not racist!!! I just think she's annoying" that's a very common misogynistic rhetoric, brock's entire gag is harrasing women but you don't think he's annoying?

Same with misty (though she's more loved than iris but there's a few haters)

And what's funny to me is that these men are usually Serena fans and amourshippers

who is the COMPLETE opposite of iris

It's because these incels insert themselves into ash

It's because these incel want a woman that is submissive and does whatever they want and does not even bother to criticize them or point out things they do wrong

It's because these incels can't stand the idea of a woman (specially of color) criticizing them

It's because these men want women to worship them

It's because they don't women (especially the ones of color) as human beings with lives and jobs

And if a man tells you this is not the case, press doubt

@refrigeratedboombursts @punkeropercyjackson

[raredust]

That leak wasn't worth it, and now pokemon fans have a new unfunny sex joke that's 100 times worse than the vaporeon one, and employees literally got doxxed, but people don't seem to care about that.

The internet sucks and people only make it worse.

Tell me, I deal with Hinata haters and Naruto fandom who are just usually stupid, like bro Naruto discourse is straight hot garbage.

Edit: and now that I understand Sasuke because I frow up. Aueuaisvwuaiseg, his haters suck.

And Naruto discourse is still hot garbage

Now I am scared at what people would do to Pokemon like Glaceon, since it looks pretty by design I hate what degeneracy would come out of it.

Look at how pretty it is!

#SaveMyBois

And damn, I know Internet people are horrendous but common, they literally dox people for things that are just allegations and not true.

I remember a roblox dude was accused of being a pedo with zero proof and people doxxed him and started harassing him daily and he almost killed himself (worst he had a history with suicide prior to this and mental health issues).

And now they do this to fucking underpaid game employees?! Wtf dude that's gross ugh, like please go get a life.

[pepsi-al]

And now, for another piece of Serena glazing brought to you by an entitled fan from the vocal minority.

Going over this so you don't have to.

The first point he tries to make is that the XY anime in an attempt to prove that the XY anime is "the most popular Pokémon Anime series", using an IMDB rating of it to back it up with, even though the rating in question is, like, taken from about 617 people. Not even a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of viewers the XY anime ended with, let alone started out with. Which should pretty much tell anyone that the people who are giving such praise to the XY anime are not even part of the target audience. Especially since Yo-Kai Watch has been outright beating the XY anime in the ratings throughout the latter's run.

He credits Serena to being part of the success that the XY anime had. Even though the only place where it found "success" was among the periphery online fandom. Meanwhile what her portrayal and "AmourShipping" actually did contribute to in regards to the XY anime is the alienation of the target audience. With the target audience themselves going on record to say that they weren't vibing with what "AmourShipping" was giving them. And in regards to those not among the target audience but didn't vibe with "AmourShipping" nonetheless, they knew that "AmourShipping" wasn't going to go anywhere.

He thinks that Serena "brought new things to the table", all the while already singing Serena's praises, calling her "the best PokéGirl of all time", as well as one of the best characters in the entire franchise. Pretty much blatantly ignoring what was already on the table before Serena even arrived.

He outright thinks that every female companion of Ash's after Misty but prior to Serena is somehow "a copy of Misty". Yeah, sure. Let's just ignore everything else that sets Ash's female companions besides Serena apart from each other, and just boil down their behavior to "Misty-esque". Granted, he does state that they have defining characteristics, such as May becoming a "Performer". (Uhh, dude? Coordinator, while similar, doesn't equal Performer.) But he seems to think they all have the same kind of personality Misty has, which couldn't be any further from the truth.

The attention he calls to in regards to Ash's female companions before Serena being "sassy" and "a jerk to Ash" pretty much shows his entire thought process into making this video. And why he was so reductive towards May, Dawn, and Iris. He's basically telling people here that he projects himself onto Ash, and that he doesn't think that Ash should have to put up with someone who, understandably, calls Ash out on his stupidity on a regular basis. (And in doing so, pretty much missing the point of Ash's character.) Also, was anyone that wasn't a part of the hardcore AniPoké fandom seriously getting tired of a girl being around to call Ash out on his faults? Does this guy genuinely believe that? Last I checked, before the time of the XY anime, they were getting tired of Ash, not his female companions in anything apart from getting sidelined in favor of Ash.

Actually, nobody apart from the periphery demographic actually "fell immediately in love with Serena". And those who did immediately fall in love with her didn't do so because of her personality. It was because of her crush on Ash, and because of marketing. Her actual personality is nothing to sneeze at, and is pretty much not only nothing like her source material counterpart, but also pretty much what you would expect from a character with no depth to her personality beyond "I'm girly because I'm a girl". Also, "kind" and "caring" literally describe ALL of Ash's female companions. Whereas "independent" describes ALL of Ash's female companions EXCEPT Serena. "Kind to everyone" and "not afraid to express how she was feeling" isn't unique to her. (The latter is definitely one of the reasons why Misty is popular. And Serena definitely seemed afraid to express how she's feeling around Ash.) And she's definitely nowhere near the first to be friendly towards everyone and ready to extend a helping hand whenever anyone is in trouble. (Again. That's literally a reason why Misty is popular to begin with.) Not to mention, Serena wasn't bratty? This dude never saw how Serena feels about her mother. And again with the "not a jerk to Ash" bit. Heck, he even brings up when she cares for Ash when he's sick as though it hadn't been done before, when it has by Misty. It's like he doesn't actually give a crap about Serena's actual character, is more interested in the fact that the showrunners made her only purpose on the show to be to make Ash look good, and is only gassing her up both to make her look better than she is, and because he feels like she's the perfect character to make Ash look good; pretty much a regular pastime for guys like him at this point. It also shows a double standard in regards to his thought process. If the female traveling companion of Ash is her own character and made out to be his equal, then anything she does, even if beneficial for Ash, is automatically bad. But if that female traveling companion is instead made specifically to make Ash look good, as though as she were a typical female character in a Shounen anime, then anything that she does, even if it harms Ash in any way, is automatically good.

Also, if things did end up changing for the better in regards to Ash's female companions, they did so in spite of Serena, not because of her. Mallow, Lana, and Lillie, were all pretty much close representations of if not direct translations of their source material counterparts. Chloe, an AniPoké OC, is pretty much the only one that comes after AniPoké Serena who is the most similar to her in terms of characterization. But, despite her doing the similarities she has with Serena better than Serena did, the reaction the periphery demographic actually has towards her (read: Chloe is disliked by the periphery audience for being "too boring", "aimless", "decided upon a goal that defeated the purpose of her character", etc.) only succeeds in showcasing said demographic's hypocrisy towards her.

WRT the unnecessary shade towards Misty's direction, saying that she would not have cared, and that she would have thrown Ash "in the deep end", this literally reinforces what I'm saying about Serena fans thinking that whatever a female traveling companion of Ash's does to Ash in their eyes is automatically bad if she's made out to be his equal and dares to be her own character. Because that's not what Misty would do at all. He completely doesn't understand her character. She would have and has helped Ash whenever he's sick. On that note, what is it with Serena fans and slinging mud at Misty? I swear. They feel threatened by her.

He's right about Serena's "relationship" with Ash being a reason why she's "popular" among the periphery audience. But what he doesn't realize is that the same reason why she's "popular" is also her biggest flaw as a character. Like, he doesn't even question how Serena is able to remember Ash despite it being so long since she supposedly last saw him. (2-5 years before the XY anime, and for a very brief moment at that.) He also ignores that all of the flashbacks to Serena meeting Ash at Oak's Summer Camp are exclusively from Serena's PoV, as well as not questioning how Ash and Serena didn't stay in touch if they supposedly knew each other. And how does he figure that the writers loved Serena when, if they had their way, Serena wouldn't have been given the characterization that she was given? Calling it "wholesome" and "what gave fans diabetes" is just basically talking about the frosting covering the the cake that tastes like stale air. He then rambles on about how Serena sees Ash as a "selfless hero", pretty much talking about Serena's blind worship of him, and downplaying how over-the-top it is compared to the complements Ash got from other girls. Even calling Serena constantly blushing around Ash, and Ash giving her the kind of compliment that he'll give May and Dawn "wholesome" rather than seeing it as the hard-to-watch mess that it is. And again, putting the emphasis on Serena seeing Ash as both "someone who's good at battling", and "someone with a good soul", shows that he doesn't really care about Serena's character, and that he's ignored that other girls have seen Ash as someone with a good soul before without blindly worshipping him. And I struggle to see how anyone can call something so blatantly shipfic-y in an official work "special". He is right about how we're not going to to see something like Ash and Serena again. To which I say: GREAT! "AmourShipping" was a bad idea from the get-go, and should serve as a cautionary tale.

And the last point he tries to make is how the female traveling companions of Ash prior to Serena "didn't really have any much if any impact". Like, what does he mean by this? Story? On Ash? Misty pretty much played a big part in why Ash is as great of a trainer as he is now, and is why he's alive. She was responsible helping Ash discover the entrance to Cinnabar Gym. May was pretty much responsible for picking up the slack whenever Ash wasn't around, and had her own arc. Dawn was chosen by Mesprit to defend Sinnoh. And "mainly used as comedic relief or to fill in that 'girl' spot for the rest of the series"? How does he think that this somehow doesn't apply to Serena? And I don't know how he thinks that Iris is a step in the right direction when, while a breath of fresh air compared to Dawn and May, when she isn't exactly treading new ground. And he's just glazing Serena by saying that she's had a bigger purpose in the story as it progressed when it really wouldn't be different without her as it is with her. And as far as "providing a completely different contrast compared to a Pokémon Trainer" is concerned, Lillie does that job far better due to being her own character and coming across as human as Misty while having her own arc herself, whereas Serena just comes across as no different from a Bond Girl or a one-off "love-interest" for Jim Kirk that isn't named Carol Marcus. He then goes on to praise Showcases, even though they're pretty much a dumbed down Pokémon Contest rip-off. And how does she lose time and time again when her only notable loss is her first ever Showcase, which she didn't really learn anything from? And her impact on Ash's character as a whole is basically non-existent, given that she doesn't even cross Ash's mind in Journeys when he thought about his travels in Kalos, and even almost ran past her like how Shulk ran past Melia. And he fails to realize that Serena actually did to Ash something that would help someone speedrun the ending of a friendship with a depressed person in real life, making his situation about her than about him. Plus, Ash would have gotten out of his funk without her "help". And the entire scene got retconned in Journeys, anyways. And honestly. What "lessons" did she give him that he didn't or shouldn't already know before the XY anime? Her role in helping shape Ash into the trainer who would go on to win the world championship is negligible. And in case he didn't notice, the Ash following the XY anime IS the same Ash from all the way back in Indigo League but grown up mentally, and definitely not due to anything that Serena actually did. Also, Ash learned the lesson that "it's okay to lose" all the way back in Orange Islands, where Serena doesn't even make an appearance. Instead, Ash learned that lesson from LORELEI, and in a later episode, Misty reiterated the lesson that Lorelei taught him. And once again, saying that Serena "beat the jerk and sassy trope" shows his lack of care towards Serena. The fact that he even brings up the "kiss", which even Yajima himself said could have been a whisper in Ash's ear for all he knew, is emblematic of how he really sees Serena.

And really? Does he really have the audacity to ask "how could you not love her"? He's clearly spent no time outside of the echo chamber, and no time in circles where Serena is criticized because of how her character was mishandled. And he definitely spoke to nobody who actually likes Serena as a character that feels like her potential as a character was outright wasted by the direction the showrunners took with her.

As for what I think about Serena's character? I think that she sucks. Period.

[geeky92]

Why is the Amourshipping fandom so consistently homophobic?

For context, I’ve recently made a revamped version of one of my old Top Tens on DeviantArt…

…and then this asshole had this to say to me before I immediately clapped back:

And they wonder why we can’t stand them! 🙄

[fandomlife-confessions]

[joonebugg-art]

INTRO POST

Hi hi hi! My name is Joone, you can also call me Rowan or Beatle but i prefer Joone. My pronouns are he/him and this is my art account, my main is @joonebugg so go follow me there if you wanna see me yap, because this account is strictly for art, no yapping allowed for me unless related to my art! My tags are #joone art on both accounts and occasionally I will put the #joonebugg rambles tag, but that is strictly for talking in the tags a LOT. I will also use the #joone oc's tag and #joone fandom tag as well as any Hawthorn Dreamtale tags for archival reasons. Now onto the actual intro!

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Proship/darkship/comship (or neutral on it) Pro harassment

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REQUEST STATUS: OPEN

But yeah that's it for now!!! This intro is subject to change ^_^

[deranged-fandom-quotes-archive]

This fucking deranged clown thinks wanting to fuck a 40 year old woman makes someone a pedophile. Words don't mean anything anymore, it seems. Crazy projection honestly.

[thequestioning-maiden]

Am I the only one creeped out by the acceptance in the Pokémon fandom to crush on the literal child characters? I remember seeing a video and suddenly the guy mentions his video game crushes, and he mentions Misty and says he still crushes on her and apologises for crushing on someone slightly older, but not for Misty 😐😧🤢

No, you are not the only one anon. Many Pokémon fans (and fans of many other series where this happens) find this creepy.

I remember I was following a Youtube channel until this person posted a 'bingo' where, depending on your birthday month, you got a "waifu". But, among those "waifus" he put Misty and Himawari (Naruto's daughter). But aren't both characters canonically 10 years old?? Why is this 30+ year old man doing this?

It should be noted that the other characters he added were adult women (like Mai from Yugioh). Why is someone mixing children and adults as if both options were fine as a couple? 🤨 Perhaps the worst part was reading some comments from adult men saying 'I got Himawari, I love l_o-l-is'. Instant unfollow from my part.

[fandomstars]

Pokemon Anime XY/XYZ- Greninja sickfic? No specific ideas lol, just Greninja sickfic because literally none exist

Hm wonder why…but okay sure!

Greninja’s Sick Day

“Greninja will be okay right?”

“Of course he will Ash, he’s strong like you.”

“Yeah Ash, he’ll be fine no worries!”

He could hear Ash laugh as Bonnie spoke, “No worries…reminds me of a good friend.”

Greninja could imagine Bonnie’s eyes light up, “Can you tell me?”

“Sure! Let’s go sit down and I’ll tell you all about my friend Dawn.”

Greninja could faintly hear a huff of annoyance by Serena, before feet shuffled away from his room.

‘Honestly that girl should just quit crushing on Ash. He clearly has more chemistry and love for his rivals than her anyway. I won’t be surprised if he has a boyfriend in that Gary guy.’ Greninja thought, mentally rolling his eyes, before regretting it as it just made his head hurt more.

He could hear bits and parts of the story, and was definitely interested in battling said mons Ash had back then.

He wondered if they fully evolved like him, as it’s unlikely Pikachu would for some unknown reason.

‘I doubt it’s cause of a stone, I’ve seen past trainers get such for prizes at tournaments. And judging by Ash’s skills now and in the story, he could of done so by now.’

Of course, he eventually began to pass back out into dreamland, and thankfully the pain was managed thanks to Nurse Joy coming in mere seconds before he fell asleep.

“Come on Froakie, do it again!”

“Honestly, you can’t learn this one move?”

“Another loss why?!”

“You. Are. Weak.”

Greninja could only shiver as more and more from past trainer’s kept spatting at him louder and louder.

“Greninja.”

He turns around, the noise suddenly becoming nothing but air as he looks to see Ash, sitting on the ground just a few feet from him, his knees up to his head.

But then his insides turn cold, and before he knows it, his legs move away from the boy.

What was he doing? What was going on?

He couldn’t stop, he couldn’t turn around, all he could do was hear the screams of pain and sadness echo around him of the one person who believed in him.

That never thought of him as weak.

The water frog woke up with a start.

He tried to calm down, breath in and out.

He could hear the beeping of the heart monitor, smell the chlorine in the air, and feel the soft blanket under his hands.

He sighed, looking around with a nod before laying back on the bed.

He looked out a nearby window, and huh….must of gotten dark before he knew it, and with a snow storm to boot.

“He’s still out there?!”

Greninja gets up and looks towards the door.

“I tried to reason with him, but he just pushed me away, and now with this storm…”

He got up off his bed before he knew it, walking out the center, ignoring the calls of others, including Pikachu.

Of course it was his trainer that would be out in a snow storm of all things.

He couldn’t help but slightly chuckle as the cold air brushed through him.

He wasn’t going to lose to the ice again, he was going to find his idiotic trainer, and get the two of them back at it.

They had a gym battle to win, and no storm was going to stop that if the frog had anything to say about it.

[proship-pokespe]

i think i saw you make blinkies at some point, could you make a "this user is pro Chosenshipping" and a "this user is pro Grantedshipping" or something like that?

ha ha srry , i kinda ghosted the blog didn ' t i ?

[pepsi-al]

This is unhinged.

Like, seriously. Didn't the guy who wrote this wall of text have anything better to do? Like, is he going around looking for every post that even remotely compares Game Serena with her AniPoké counterpart, thinking that they're saying that Game Serena is better than AniPoké Serena? (I mean, Game Serena is indeed better than AniPoké Serena. But I'm digressing here.) Between this and the recent shipping poll on Ranker, can AniPoké Serena fans just ONCE not make themselves look like no-lifers? Please?!

[refrigeratedboombursts]

My brain swings between dad Lance and asshole Lance the way my heart swings between men and women

[ultraericthered]

I though this was a joke where the tweet was talking about some more serious game and the characters within it, and the image of Penny was pasted onto it....but no, it really was about her and Team Star, from this Lily Orchard type of person who "supports writers" yet does not seem to understand writing, let alone give advice for it.

Good lord.

twitter is so funny can this be a new copy pasta

[pokenoire3]

The World (me most of all) if everyone accepted that rabid XY haters attacked XY fans first

... Therefore even causing the XY&Z12 and JN105 incidents (sorry but it's the truth).

[fandomstars]

Pokemon anime request! Ash’s companions (other than Alola) reacting to his championship win in the Alola league

Misty: Knew from the time at the Orange League that he’d make it, if anything he already did back then. But league being official was just the last step. Still wished he used many of his water type Pokemon.

Brock: He called it the minute Ash forfeit his first gym battle ever. This kid was going to go far. Now if he could just get Kukui and others to help get him some therapy.

Tracy: He was literally drawing Ash’s final league battle from frame to frame. Goes on to make the Pokémon anime series with input from Ash and his other friends across the regions.

May: Knew he’d make it someday, after all, he beat the Battle Frontier. Hopefully he waited to have a big feast until her plane hit Alola.

Max: He finally been able to start his journey. He had just won his first gym badge when the league began. He quickly rushed home to watch the rest with his family. His Treecko and Ralts cheering with him as Ash won it. Of course, he always has a small part of him, guilty for how he treated Ash when they first meet. Boy, if he could go back in time and tell his past self this.

Dawn: Always knew he was going to win someday. She knew Piplup was all for it, plus not having to worry about his Gible’s draco meteor. Just wished she’d had been able to see it in person. But she clearly made that up once he went for the masters tournament!

Iris: Despite their quibbles, she always knew Ash would exceed in Pokémon battling. Now she wished he had more dragon types, let alone used the ones he had besides an ultra beast. But she’s proud either way.

Cilan: He knew it like the back of his hand, like the lines of a cookbook, the station to a train. Yeah he’s basically part of the Ash fanclub and for sure is the co-founder that totally bet Ash would become the best one day.

N: He knew the moment he laid eyes on Ash, that he’d do great things. He’s one of the reasons he can tolerate Pokemon battles, even see the enjoyment and thrill in some cases, but mostly through Ash’s battles. He could defiantly feel Ashs Pokémon’s cheers from all over the region, and perhaps a certain legendary bird or more.

Clemont: He’s a gym leader after all, he could tell from each battle he did whether someone could go far if given the push. Ash was one of those, despite the fact he knew since he first battled him when they first meet.

Serena: Knew he had it in him, and hoped he’d be happy. Also he rejected her and their good friends to this day.

Bonnie: Cheered the loudest, now even more psyched to go on her own journey. Perhaps battle Ash and his mons along the way.

Basing this on if the Alola series was only a couple months since Kalos (since it started as a summer trip) and lasted about a year after, hence why Max is old enough to go on a journey, but Bonnie isn’t.

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Bonus! Rivals (and by rivals I mean actual rivals. Not looking at you Cameron and others I forget. Sorry Gladion and others I know but this is excluding Alola.)

Gary: While he wish he could kick his 10 year old’s butt, but he knows Ash won’t have gone as far without his help. So he better mention him in his acceptation speech. But for real, he’s so proud of Ashy Boy.

Paul: Ever since he heard of Ash beating the Battle Frontier, he knew he was going to become a champion. Not that he’d admit it. No, but he’d totally admit he had the better rival battle out of all of Ash’s rivals.

Barry: Now Ash owes him 10 million more, for he knew Ash would become champion. He just wished he’d battle him for that.

Trip: Ever since he loss to Ash in the Unova league, he’s gone through a big change. Ash showed him what the perfect trainer is, caring for Pokémon and people alike. So yeah, he’s less of a jerk.

Alain: While he wished he got a rematch before Ash made it, he’s glad he did. No matter how much of a odd presence keeps saying Ash was the Kalos champ despite the outcome.

Sawyer: He’s Ash’s number one fan. Of course he was going to become champion. Of course, he wished to battle him again before he done so.

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