#Anti Neil Gaiman

[icedsodapop]

Feel a little... conflicted over Dead Boys Detective being cancelled cos what does this mean for media adaptations containing diverse casting and characters? Then on the other hand, it's an adaptation of a Neil Gaiman IP and I don't think that fucker should get to keep earning money.

[aunt-kats-chats]

The fact that people are claiming that they won’t trust the allegations against Neil Gaiman because the author of the article is “TeRfy” is bullshit. People cry out “support victims” unless the supposedly wrong kind of person calls attention to it. Like fuck man just the age range between Gaiman and his victims is more than enough evidence for me

[92fs]

It's "eat the rich" and "billionaires shouldn't exist" and "everyone who contributes to climate change in industrial-like degree is the enemy" and "not speaking up about the genocide is compliance" unless it's about Taylor Swift.

It's "fuck Zionists" and "rich old men abusing power in relationships with much younger and vulnerable women should not be trusted" and "believe victims" unless it's about Neil Gaiman.

Some of you are only "punk" for the label.

[deadboyagency]

I didn’t want to have to address this again here but please stop associating Neil Gaiman with Dead Boy Detectives.

Neil Gaiman doesn’t own the copyright or trademarks to Dead Boy Detectives. The IP (intellectual property) was back-shelved from Neil in the early 2000s up until when DC Comics wanted to expand on them (because Neil didn't) so DC Comics hired new writers and create their own series for them starting with Ed Brubaker and Bryan Talbot. All copyright that Neil owns is public knowledge and listed here on the US Goverment Copyright and also shared above.

Neil Gaiman owns SANDMAN. Dead Boy Detectives appeared in ONE ISSUE. Neil owns the Sandman comics. Every time you see his name attached is because they included DEATH and DESPAIR to make a connection to SANDMAN. This was Netflix wanting to attach it to Sandman. The show originally set to air on Max had no attachment to Sandman.

Associating that man with the comics or show now is giving him credit for something he DID NOT CREATE.

Toby Litt and Mark Buckingham created Crystal Palace (who are also the reason why Litty and Kingman are named after them in the show! because it ties into THEIR comics!) 2013-2014 ordered a full comic series written by Toby Litt and Mark Buckingham.

Steve Yockey created Niko, The Cat King, Esther, Monty ect. All of whom are original characters for Dead Boy Detectives The Show. They are all original characters that appear no where else in the comics or story

STEVE YOCKEY OWNS THE IP RIGHTS TO DEAD BOY DETECTIVES NOW. Yes, as in Charles Rowland and Edwin Payne are Steve Yockey’s Dead Boy Detectives. Steve works for Warner Brothers and copyright is under them. Not Netflix, Not Neil. WARNER BROTHERS.

They are Steve's characters, no one else’s. Zack Ogle (Dead Boy Detectives writer) has confirmed this on Twitter, US copyright law has confirms this, Neil himself has also confirmed this.

Netflix canceling the show has nothing to do with Neil. They could easily state that in the articles as they have with other shows who have issues regarding him. There is absolutely ZERO correlation between the two.

Dead Boy Detectives had viewership Netflix didn’t like; that’s it. Netflix's horrific streaming model values only hit shows only and #1’s on their chart are the only thing that matter to them. Baby Reindeer blocked them from getting their #1 and Netflix only cares about that.

Netflix also doesn't care about who they employe. They have been working for years with Dave Chappelle, Steve Blackman and others. Netflix’s CEO Ted Sarandos has defended transphobia from Dave Chappelle and hid details of what was happening on the set of The Umbrella Academy about Steve Blackman's abuse from the public for years.

Dead Boy Detectives was unjustly and unfairly taken from us because Netflix only cares about what hits #1 and could care less about what happens to the cast, crew and writers of the show.

By continuously attaching that man's name to the show you are discrediting the actors, writers and creators of Dead Boy Detectives who deserve the praise for the show and comics they have created for the last 22 years.

[unnamedmedicalprofessional]

trigger warning for discussion of rape

it's very common when an artist has allegations against them for there to be something in their art that somehow reflects the shitty thing they did in a very unnerving way, and I recently realized a particularly gross one with Neil Gaiman.

In the Ocean At The End Of The Lane, the main character's dad has an affair with his son's babysitter. I do think the dad is framed as in the wrong for doing this, but it's mainly in the context of cheating on his wife. The babysitter is actually an evil immortal supernatural entity, which really sidesteps the power dynamic implications of sleeping with your kids babysitter. This didn't strike me as problematic at all when I first read it, but looking back knowing it was written by a guy who allegedly raped his kid's babysitter makes my skin crawl.

[dandelionjack]

2014: neil gaiman is #1 women respecter! we love neil!! he’s so progressive :3 steven moffat is the WORST misogynist tv writer ever he is soooo sexist he CANNOT write a woman. he’s so evil. i bet he’s secretly a conservative. i bet he wrote that “tight skirt” line in a nightmare in silver

2024: steven moffat has banged out a 4-part drama that examines the complicity of men in the media industry which normalises sexual abuse of their female colleagues, under the guise of a “comedy” about “cancel culture”. his latest doctor who episode was a scathing attack on the military-industrial complex under capitalism. Neil Gaiman is a confirmed abusive predator and zionist

[zoyalaisobachka]

Good news: terf k Rowling has been silent on social media for days , let's keep it that way huh? (She also deleted some of her old tweets, which is laughable at)

Bad news: Neil Gaiman blaming his autism for sexually assaulting women (autism is not an excuse for that behaviour wtf)

[inezrable]

Celebrities that if they died this year it would be so fucking funny on the internet and no one would miss them

JK Rowling

Elon Musk

Neil Gaiman

Donald Trump

Wilbur Soot

[gloom-and-doom-in-my-room]

Neil Gaiman is a rapist pass it on

[negative-speedforce]

Someone can make great art and be a terrible human being.

H.P Lovecraft was a racist.

J.k. Rowling is a transphobe.

Neil Gaiman is likely a rapist.

These two categories are not exclusive of each other. Just because someone made your pet blorbos, or a piece of art you enjoy, doesn't mean that they're necessarily a good person.

[bannedandburned]

✨PROFOUND HYPOCRISY WINS✨

watching this website give hundreds of thousands of likes to every flavor of anti woman anti victim talking points is absurdity past comedy.

They said they liked it while in the relationship (because no one ever lies to cover abuse)

The podcast is making money and behind a pay wall (yep it's making money, no it's not behind a pay wall if you go to Spotify)

Why is there only one source? (We were super cool with accepting Russel Brand's anonymous accusers from a single source but he's a cringe political opponent so we don't have to be consistent with our favs)

They were adults so there's no power imbalance (sexually propositioning a staff member hours after meeting her.)

They were adults so there was no power imbalance (met at a fan convention)

He's GOOD (threatened suicide to a woman who was already in throws of her own mental illness)

The people publishing the story are TERFs (dozens of posts claiming to believe the victims but immediately clarifying you don't actually believe them)

The women don't know what they're saying. One of them is mentally ill and the other is bitter. (Jesus fucking Christ y'all????)

What's important here is touching grass and waiting for more information (internet speak for covering your ears and fleeing.)

I am not only angry at the spineless reactions on this site, I'm fuckin disappointed. Y'all cosplay as activists but the second you might have to be consistent and set aside your hobbies you start talking like Men's Rights Activists during #MeToo because obviously women are lying whores who want the attention and to destroy a "good man"'s life. Ain't we just so.

[moonlarking]

Idk why people are shocked about Neil Gaiman. If they just read his creepy porn in “The Problem of Susan and Other Stories”, which was published 20 years ago, it would be a dead giveaway how twisted he is.

I mean writing creepy porn is in no way an indicator of being a predator I feel like that’s important to say right off the bat. Shipping things that are weird or gross or creepy, writing fanfic about that, none of it has any bearing on real life. But yeah I think if the problem of Susan was any more popular people probably would have been more grossed out by him and therefore more prepared mentally for this

[cosmic-tempest]

Something's that fans of Neil Gaiman's need to remember because apparently people are forgetting. 1. Even if there was a "relationship" sexual abuse, rape, sexual harassment etc can still happen in relationships. 2. Consent can be taken away at any moment. 3. People can be coerced into sexual acts. 4. Doing something to someone that they do not like and did not want is rape. 5. There can be a power imbalance between an employer and employee and a famous rich author and a fan.

[hang-on-lil-tomato]

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING! As an LMT, this is a COMPLETE VIOLATION of EVERYTHING we are trained in! An LMT would have their license revoked for this!

If a client is inappropriate…which, to say the least Neil’s behavior is unacceptable…the client is BANNED.

Relationships with a client are strictly prohibited. After 6 months of no massages, if you are still interested, you can date.

In the Massage Therapy community, we FIGHT against this entire “happy ending” bullshit.

Sex workers are fine. But LMTs are NOT sex workers.

If some clown wants something else, please go to a sex worker.

I can’t begin to say how utterly REPULSED I am by this “man”. And the massage therapist should lose their practice. Period.

This may have taken place in New Zealand. Maybe NZ therapists do not receive the same training as we in the USA.

UPDATE: New Zealand LMTs have the same high standards we have in the USA. Periodt.

[weirdo-with-a-potato]

Just a reminder that ne*l didn’t have much to do with dbda…our boys just sort of showed up in a comic he worked on and he didn’t do much of anything on the show…plus the sandman (both tv and comic) had way more people working on it then just him. Good omens (book) was much more terry Prattchet then him and the tv show is much more then just him. As for other works of his (ie. stardust) we just gotta suffer.

You can still, of corse, read the books but make sure to get them from somewhere like a used book store or lent by a friend. Plus there are always other places to read his books that don’t give money to him…

I know that a lot of people looked up to him and he helped many people to accept themselves and that it hurts to loose someone who you looked up to (I’m treating it as if he is dead because my previous image of him was brutally stabbed to death). But he is only a man and there are many other people in the world.

If any one wants to talk about this (wants to rant, wants to just keyboard smash in anger, wants to cry [however you choose to express crying digitally]) feel free to do so. Or if you have anything to add, you can talk about that too. I know writing usually helps me to get through emotions and feel a bit better. Maybe it will work for you too.

btw if you have any other creators who have caused a similar situation, feel free to talk about that as well.

[briony-poisoned]

Also, to all the people saying "I never liked Good Omens anyway and I KNEW there was a reason!"

Hush. Just hush. Way to turn someone's rape into the silliest self congratulatory post imaginable.