#Anti Neil Gaiman

[deadboyagency]

[sickofthis666]

"It's fucked up that no one took the first allegations against Gaiman seriously" yall decided that bashing radfems was more important than fighting rape culture and believing rape victims

[92fs]

It's "eat the rich" and "billionaires shouldn't exist" and "everyone who contributes to climate change in industrial-like degree is the enemy" and "not speaking up about the genocide is compliance" unless it's about Taylor Swift.

It's "fuck Zionists" and "rich old men abusing power in relationships with much younger and vulnerable women should not be trusted" and "believe victims" unless it's about Neil Gaiman.

Some of you are only "punk" for the label.

[mlmxreader]

like, the thing is, I don't CARE if you're a fan of his works, and nor do I care if you're not. this is not, and will never be, about YOU, or YOUR feelings.

this is abt a rich, white man who used his influence, his status and his power as a cult icon to groom and rape several women across multiple years; this is abt the brave women who have come forward and gone "no, we won't be silenced" and how we should be throwing support behind them.

yeah, Gaiman is a fucking vile person, he's a Zionist & he supports pedophilia, but he is also a groomer and a rapist who has manipulated and mentally, physically, sexually, and financially abused many women; he MUST be held accountable. he MUST face the consequences of those actions.

but if you're looking at any of this, and your automatic thought is to make a post saying "oh, I feel so bad for ever being a fan and I-" just stop. put the phone down. this is NOT about you. whatsoever. shut the fuck up, listen to the women who came forward, and support them.

and the same goes for if you're going to make a post saying "oh, I'm so glad I never got into it and I think-" just fuck off. shut the fuck up. phone down and remember that this isn't about you, nothing abt this situation is abt you.

YOUR feelings, as an individual, do not fucking matter. this is abt the women who came forward and supporting THEM, and uplifting THEIR voices so that they may get some semblance of justice and have their abuser held accountable.

and as always: transmisogynists and Zionists are not welcome on this post. genuinely fuck off.

[icedsodapop]

Feel a little... conflicted over Dead Boys Detective being cancelled cos what does this mean for media adaptations containing diverse casting and characters? Then on the other hand, it's an adaptation of a Neil Gaiman IP and I don't think that fucker should get to keep earning money.

[nichyevosobachka]

Good news: terf k Rowling has been silent on social media for days , let's keep it that way huh? (She also deleted some of her old tweets, which is laughable at)

Bad news: Neil Gaiman blaming his autism for sexually assaulting women (autism is not an excuse for that behaviour wtf)

[aunt-kats-chats]

The fact that people are claiming that they won’t trust the allegations against Neil Gaiman because the author of the article is “TeRfy” is bullshit. People cry out “support victims” unless the supposedly wrong kind of person calls attention to it. Like fuck man just the age range between Gaiman and his victims is more than enough evidence for me

[thedaswolves]

Sharing my gdrive link to full Neil Gaiman expose article for those who can't read it on Vulture because of paywall, because everyone should have access to this!

Naturally, trigger warning for all forms of sexual physical and psychological abuse so take care.

link

[dandelionjack]

2014: neil gaiman is #1 women respecter! we love neil!! he’s so progressive :3 steven moffat is the WORST misogynist tv writer ever he is soooo sexist he CANNOT write a woman. he’s so evil. i bet he’s secretly a conservative. i bet he wrote that “tight skirt” line in a nightmare in silver

2024: steven moffat has banged out a 4-part drama that examines the complicity of men in the media industry which normalises sexual abuse of their female colleagues, under the guise of a “comedy” about “cancel culture”. his latest doctor who episode was a scathing attack on the military-industrial complex under capitalism. Neil Gaiman is a confirmed abusive predator and zionist

[technoturian]

I have been thinking about this a lot. I drafted this and considered not posting it, but I read this post and I kinda wanted to add onto it and at the same time I didn't want to derail it with my own issue. Discussion of Neil Gaiman, fandom, and fatphobia below...

I was not a fan of Neil Gaiman. Not in a way where I disliked him, I just simply didn't engage with his work whatsoever. He was a non-entity to me. But when his big "Sandman" show came out I became aware of a certain incident in his show, namely the fatphobic depiction of the concept of "Despair". In an article about his work I remember Gaiman's characters in the source material had been described as fitting the aesthetic, "heroin chic". This character, Despair, the personification of human misery, was the only fat woman in the main cast.

I saw other fat folks call this out. I saw a direct response from him that, in my opinion, was smug and patronizing. But much more importantly, I saw flocks of people defending not his choice, but him personally. About what a feminist he is. About how thoughtful he is. We just didn't understand his genius. It was a misunderstanding. A misinterpretation. Because that would be bad, and he's not bad, he's good.

Some even went so far as to defend the choice as "better in the source material". You see, in the source material the fat woman personifying human misery was naked! It was better when she wasn't so sad, she simply scurried about like some hateful gremlin, shocking her victims with the grotesquity of her uncovered fatness. Isn't that better?

I researched the character and read a claim that her body was inspired by the Venus of Willendorf. The Venus of Willendorf is a historical artifact of a voluptuous woman. It signifies desire and fertility. Dare I even say, joy. And then someone allegedly saw this artifact and went, "I will name it Despair."

I was offended by reading that, but after doing so I found that I was so much more offended by the response. I mean, it's obvious that this was fatphobia, wasn't it? It was so clearly cut and dry. There was no kinder interpretation. And yet I watched as people bent over backwards, because he was so good! And he made them feel seen and so he couldn't have any prejudices that make that less true. And so when I posted about this whole situation I mainly posted about that response. Because that's what irked me most.

And after that, I decided I wasn't going to be a Neil Gaiman fan on purpose, rather than on accident. When it came to the man himself, I just rolled my eyes and put him into the box of "Not For Me". He could have turned out to be a holy saint in all other ways, for all I knew or cared.

But he wasn't a saint. He turned out to be a rapist.

I'm sorry if this comes across as a gotcha because that's the opposite of my intention. I'm not saying it to derail focus. I'm not trying to make it all about me or my pet cause.

What I'm trying to say is, people will now see things like Despair and take it as a "sign". It's going to be okay now to pick apart his work because now he's a rapist. But I didn't need to know he wasn't a good person to know this person's work wasn't safe for me. And I also knew it wasn't safe to say so, because everyone who tried to talk about how hurt they felt was told how wrong they were to feel that way.

At the same time, it's safe for me to finally vent about how this made me feel now, now that it doesn't matter because he's not good, he's bad actually.

I guess I'm just hoping instead of the usual pattern, where everyone bemoans the fall from grace and debates whether we "should have known" or "couldn't have known", people reading this can try to make space for a middle ground of criticism of the things you love now. Find that gray area somewhere between the top of the pedestal where everything the saint did was with the best intentions, and down in the muck where we should've known he was a rapist all along. Not because saints are secret rapists, but because there are no saints, and most people are there in the middle.

[deadboyagency]

I didn’t want to have to address this again here but please stop associating Neil Gaiman with Dead Boy Detectives.

Neil Gaiman doesn’t own the copyright or trademarks to Dead Boy Detectives. The IP (intellectual property) was back-shelved from Neil in the early 2000s up until when DC Comics wanted to expand on them (because Neil didn't) so DC Comics hired new writers and create their own series for them starting with Ed Brubaker and Bryan Talbot. All copyright that Neil owns is public knowledge and listed here on the US Goverment Copyright and also shared above.

Neil Gaiman owns SANDMAN. Dead Boy Detectives appeared in ONE ISSUE. Neil owns the Sandman comics. Every time you see his name attached is because they included DEATH and DESPAIR to make a connection to SANDMAN. This was Netflix wanting to attach it to Sandman. The show originally set to air on Max had no attachment to Sandman.

Associating that man with the comics or show now is giving him credit for something he DID NOT CREATE.

Toby Litt and Mark Buckingham created Crystal Palace (who are also the reason why Litty and Kingman are named after them in the show! because it ties into THEIR comics!) 2013-2014 ordered a full comic series written by Toby Litt and Mark Buckingham.

Steve Yockey created Niko, The Cat King, Esther, Monty ect. All of whom are original characters for Dead Boy Detectives The Show. They are all original characters that appear no where else in the comics or story

STEVE YOCKEY OWNS THE IP RIGHTS TO DEAD BOY DETECTIVES NOW. Yes, as in Charles Rowland and Edwin Payne are Steve Yockey’s Dead Boy Detectives. Steve works for Warner Brothers and copyright is under them. Not Netflix, Not Neil. WARNER BROTHERS.

They are Steve's characters, no one else’s. Zack Ogle (Dead Boy Detectives writer) has confirmed this on Twitter, US copyright law has confirms this, Neil himself has also confirmed this.

Netflix canceling the show has nothing to do with Neil. They could easily state that in the articles as they have with other shows who have issues regarding him. There is absolutely ZERO correlation between the two.

Dead Boy Detectives had viewership Netflix didn’t like; that’s it. Netflix's horrific streaming model values only hit shows only and #1’s on their chart are the only thing that matter to them. Baby Reindeer blocked them from getting their #1 and Netflix only cares about that.

Netflix also doesn't care about who they employe. They have been working for years with Dave Chappelle, Steve Blackman and others. Netflix’s CEO Ted Sarandos has defended transphobia from Dave Chappelle and hid details of what was happening on the set of The Umbrella Academy about Steve Blackman's abuse from the public for years.

Dead Boy Detectives was unjustly and unfairly taken from us because Netflix only cares about what hits #1 and could care less about what happens to the cast, crew and writers of the show.

By continuously attaching that man's name to the show you are discrediting the actors, writers and creators of Dead Boy Detectives who deserve the praise for the show and comics they have created for the last 22 years.

[sickofthis666]

It's funny to see people say this about Gaiman now when they spent years doing it to JKR without shame...

[monsterblogging]

Like. A big reason fanworks are allowed to exist is because they function as free promo material for the IP they're based on. I'm not going to say that you should never create fanworks ever, but I am going to say that you should always remember that every fic and every picture you create and put on the Internet is an act of unpaid labor for the IP owner, and that there are actual material consequences here. If the IP owner is an absolutely despicable person, why would you perform unpaid labor for them when you have the option to do literally anything else?

[gloom-and-doom-in-my-room]

Neil Gaiman is a rapist pass it on

[bannedandburned]

Folks today: we're SHOCKED to find out what Neil Gaiman has done! We're hurting so bad 😭😭

Feminists: wow, imagine if you'd listened to the victims MONTHS ago when they first told you.

[icedsodapop]

Did we say the terfs can speak? We know that you aren't saying this out of good faith. You're prob going to spin this to make your bigot ass look like the maligned victim of misogyny.