#Anti ML Community

[plumsaffron]

Miracusaltards roast pt. 16

*I’m going to be a lil more mean bc I feel like it. If anyone feels offended by the language and terms used, just go away. Besides, the ML community has brought this upon themselves for allowing hatred to consume their sanity.*

Oh I bet most characters from other franchises and their sane minded fans would also say these to the miracusalt characters and their stans, “Damn bitch, we don’t want your dirty hides around us!”

“Why are you guys even crossing over with our universes?”

“Oh lord, my brain cells get lost bc of your presence.”

“Oh no, everyone watch out for the cults!”

“Get your fugly ass outta here!”

“Hey man, I’d recommend you to stop consuming this series bc of how bad canon is, not just the community being dumb as hell. Like it’s not that fucking hard to move on to healthier content.”

“My liked and favorites mixed with my most hated ones? Oh No no no no! There’s already a few of them on the site!”

“Oh shit! The viruses are here! We gotta protect the newcomers!”

“I’m assuming you’re like them, stanning a character so much that you couldn’t see the hard evidence that they too have flaws.”

“Oh my god, if I try to search miraculous ladybug on Google, the miracucunts definitely override the searches with hate content!”

“Hello? Mental Health Services? We’ve got unstable Miracusalters causing a huge scene in public over a literal fictional episode that they couldn’t let go of. Do you have your vehicles ready?”

“Is this the IT department or the appropriate cybersecurity internet services? These groups of people refuse to listen to anyone but themselves and their group. They are spamming hate and misinformation on people just criticizing them not just innocent folks being viciously bullied over different harmless opinions. Are you able to shut down their accounts permanently?”

YEP

[beadelmare]

was debating making an unscripted pjo dr where everything is exactly the same as the books (except im in it ofc) to see what would happen but then realized i would probably jump off a cliff when jason dies so let's not do that.

[bamzies]

i just want to kiss him

[little-red-book-daily]

Historically, all reactionary forces on the verge of extinction invariably conduct a last desperate struggle against the revolutionary forces, and some revolutionaries are apt to be deluded for a time by this phenomenon of outward strength but inner weakness failing to grasp the essential fact that the enemy is nearing extinction while they themselves are approaching victory.

"The Turning Point in World War II" (October 12, 1942), Selected Works, Vol. III, p. 103.

[queercodedangel]

The issue with Light Yagami isn't just that his approach is "evil", but the fundamental premise is inherently flawed because crime isn't something that exists in a vacuum of "evil individuals". Crime is a social, historical, economic and political phenomenon because these interpersonal factors create the very conditions for it (and they determine what is considered a crime in the first place)

Light should've read some Marx fr

[roguesynapses]

If you call yourself a "tankie" or a Marxist Leninist or what have you I have decided I am simply blocking you. I want to make arguments with communists, not would be oligarchic bureaucrats who fetishize power and the working classes to achieve a state capitalist hellscape no better than the empire they claim to want to destroy.

If you're a Marxist you can stay but you're on thin ice.

[natsucujoh]

Here! She’s one of my newer f/os <3

alright, reblog game time!

send me a picture of your f/o(s) (max. 3) and I'll assign them a song based on their vibes only.

[a-very-tired-jew]

I was talking with a gaming friend of mine about Leftist spaces becoming increasingly more antisemitic and hostile and the following exchange was too good.

Friend: Yeah, I'm seeing self identified Leftists that specify they're Marxists spout antisemitic shit.

Me: Well that's because they're likely MLs.

Friend: MLs?

Me: Marxist-Leninists.

Friend: I still don't follow.

Me: Tankies. MLs are Marxists who believe in Soviet era Marxism and are the authoritarian Left. Which means they're just tankies with more words. Hell, most Leftist ideology nowadays in those spaces is just some form of Soviet style Marxism/Communism with a different coat of paint.

Friend: Wait...wait... wait...So they're just using different labels to hide their authoritarian and fascist beliefs?

Me: And their antisemitism, don't forget that.

Friend: I'm going to make a meme real quick.

Friend:

Me: Hold on. I need to make one for you then.

Me:

Friend: Omg...that's so good.

Friend: You're going to put this on jumblr aren't you?

Me: Yeeeeeep.

So many Leftist spaces are just some form of Soviet Marxist spaces and are not welcoming to other forms of Leftist ideology like Democratic Socialism, Utopian Socialism, and so on (a lot of no true Scotsman fallacy in these spaces). Which, IMO, is why there's so much antisemitism that has risen from the deep like a sea monster. It's always been there, lurking in the depths of these dominant ideologies. Now that it's popular to be (((anti-Zionist))) the old antisemitic rhetoric from the Soviet days is front and center. At this point in time if I meet a Leftist that self identifies as a Marxist I know I have a high chance to be insulted, at the least, and hatecrimed, at the worst.

[marxistlesbianist]

Imo, Marx's old line on religion—that it is “the heart of a heartless world, [. . .] the opium of the masses”—can be largely applied to anarchism in the imperial core. From my experience working with anarchists across multiple US cities, for every smug crypto-imperialist there are more people with a genuine interest in challenging capitalism (and increasingly imperialism), but who don’t know where to begin. Anarchism is the resistance of a complicit society, the adderall of the masses—and just like how our criticisms of the Catholic Church as a conservative political institution have to contend with the fact that religion still serves a genuine need of the people, our criticisms of anarchism have to contend with the fact that imperial core citizens adopt it for a reason.

Like, we can complain all we want about how the CIA promoted left anti-communism to undermine the US’s communist orgs, but the sober fact is that the bourgeoisie will always do everything that they can to undermine communism and that it is the job of the vanguard party to anticipate and combat such subterfuge. After WWII there was something like a genuine info war, and the communists lost. The prevalence of anti-communism among the far left here is the fault of bourgeois propaganda, but it is also the failure of past communists to effectively combat misinformation—and until we correct this error such anti-communism will persist!

It’s easy to point out all the ways that anarchist ideology reflects imperialist chauvinism, but as materialists we have to admit that a large degree of anarchism’s popularity in the west has to do with the fact that anarchist social reproduction is simply miles ahead of our own at this time. With the dire state of Leninist organizing in the west, who can blame young would-be-revolutionaries for finding their ways into anarchist collectives? Anarchist punk shows may not be an effective venue for resistance, but they are a type of genuine community service that communists are simply not providing. Across the US, anarchists lead MLs in organizing protests, food banks, bail funds, etc. (organizing them poorly, but organizing them nonetheless), and so someone looking to challenge the system is simply more likely to be taken in by anarchists than communists from the numbers alone.

This is why I find the common line that anti-capitalism is a meaningless ideology unfulfilling. Whilst it may be true that simply positioning yourself as anti-capitalist is not enough to challenge capitalism, I would posit that someone who calls themselves “anti-capitalist” is a step closer to becoming an actual communist than a vaguely progressive liberal. A hypothosis supported by the high quantity of former anarchists within the younger ranks of ML orgs to-day. Those who are truly serious about challenging the bourgeois state do tend to find their way into Marxism-Leninism, but it’s still our job to build a movement that people will be drawn to.

Like religion, anarchism cannot be abolished until the social need it serves is more effectively met. In this case, the need is for an effective revolutionary movement. To chastise anarchists for letting chauvinism misdirect their mode of resistance is to come close to the same theoretical error we so often critique in their theory—that the abolition of something oppressive (here, faith in the bourgeois state) will necessarily result in something liberatory (here, the revolutionary science of Marxism-Leninism). An effective challenge to capitalism won’t manifest until we build it.

[plumsaffron]

Man I remember a tumblr user named ozmav allegedly started the Mari/bat ship which then spiraled outta control by the mentally deficient rabid salters since 2019. Checking online, ozmav’s accounts are inactive since 2021? Guess that person realized the negative attention they’ve received and completely jetted, leaving the tunnelvisioned brainwashed miracubitches to take the criticism and heat from the sane minded. Um bitch, what do you think would happen when you create a nonsensical ship within an unstable community? Not to victim blame or anything but I bet they were not predicting how bad the salters would get later on.

Since early 2021, I’m a recovering victim from the immense stupidity and closed-mindedness of the miracusalters like some people here. I’m thankful that there were some rational smart folks contradicting the stupid rabid fandoms otherwise I’d be stuck for a long ass time, being very mentally messed up by the salters’ lies and misinformation.

#ml salt survivor #surviving the stupid salters #salter survivor #i survived the ml salt fandom! #ml salt is a cult #ml salt is legitimately stupid #ml salt is for dumbasses #ml salt is for stupid people #ml salt causes brain rot #ml salt is toxic #toxic ml salt #salters cannot be reasoned with #ml salters are fragile little shits #salters be allergic to criticism

Pfft! These tags are joke tags! But you can go ahead and use them plum! Though I literally just saw your reblog of ppl dead ass comparing a deceased rl war criminal to Lila which is stupid! Reminded me of stupid ass bitches comparing bad or controversial musicians to actual criminals years ago… it’s like these people forgot that categories exist for a reason.

Though seeing the toxic Xover hetero ships like that on AO3, Wattpad and FFN dead ass makes me embarrassed as a heterosexual person. Anyone else feeling like they’d want to commit hetero erasure on themselves and even purge their own content of canon or fanon wholesome healthy het ships? Sigh* And some miracubozos claim to be lgbt+ open minded folks yet I’d sometimes keep on seeing the “evil cishet” characters like Lila or the occasional brainwashed follower of hers in their fics. Ngl, thought that was pronounced “ci-shet” or “cis-shet” instead of ���cis-het.”

Very well then. I’ll include them tags.

*Sighs*. Stupid people will make absurd comparisons about anything.

Heh miracubozos claims. Sort of reminds me of when they say in tags that the character(s) deserves better but what they say doesn’t better things, it just makes it worse or puts them down (while ironically not liking this other character being put down similarly in various degrees canonically).

Or one that claims to be fan or defender of the character(s) but will say somethings without thinking carefully in an already polluted environment while ignoring they are giving the polluters more ammo against who they are a fan of.

I wish more sane peeps were here.

Salt is probably a cult (especially when a loser or reblogger or drones can say some manure end up getting over 150-300 notes at least)

Welp. That alleged thing though reminds me a lot about this clip

[plumsaffron]

The average day of mistakes when it comes to Lila. It only gets worse the more you search (Won’t take long though).

meanwhile miraculous youtube community

[missshinazugawa]

I normally don't post anything about controversial subjects, but this time as one of the member in Love and Deepspace community, I wanted to speak up about this horrible issues going on currently.

I've been in the LnD community for a while, from February 2024 till now, it is sad that CN server is spreading hate about Sylus just because they think Sylus 'plagarized' Zayne. While in reality, I know damn well they most of them came back to the game BECAUSE OF SYLUS

Be fucking for real, no ML has been plagarizing any ML. I'm Malaysian Chinese, even me myself felt so embarassed for yall CHINESE PLAYERS to spread hate about one of our beloved. Imagine how devastated Sylus will be if he's real and when he knows this.

Fuck yall mean Sylus doesn't deserve to be famous because he was released late?? This is something that an uneducated people sounds like. I don't see yall hating on Caleb? Cuz tell me why yall want your ADOPTIVE BROTHER to be one of your love interest, its fucking weird. Not to be racist, but yall Chinese glorify that indirect sibling relationship as romance so much.

I will stand for Sylus bcuz he loves us just as much CN Sylus fans loves him. Imagine it's your fave ML, Zayne, Rafayel, Xavier getting hatred, would you guys want that? Seriously isn't Confucius our ancestors? What did he taught us? Yall should be ashame. TRULY AND REALLY, REALLY AND TRULY ASHAMED.

Sylus is the fucking reason LnD blows up. Yes, before he was released, we thought he is the villain in the storyline, but as we play through the game, we do realized he's actually a sweetheart, he is our beloved. But no, yall clearly wanna headcanon him as a red flag, he's a bad guy, he doesn't love MC. Excuse me, are we playing the same game?

It is clear, as we play the game, our first impression on different LIs is different, Sylus looks like he's a bad guy, a villain that likes forced love but actually someone who will do anything to us, no forcing us.

Zayne looks cold outside, but deep down he cared for MC so much, he's willing to love us in every single universe no matter Astra cursed him to not love us. He's warm inside.

Rafayel carefree and often bratty and petulant personality on the surface, but when he's with MC, his beloved, he can be childlish, whiny and all pouty.

Xavier looks like an honest boy, a golden retriever,acts clueless but he's the most possesive LI ever.

From all of this, didn't we already know, or obviously know that all LI have something beyond the surface? Don't villainize any of them for fuck sake. Pls use the brain.

No one is forcing anyone consume other's content, if you love Zayne, then look at Zayne's content, but if you love Sylus too, you as a Zayne main can go look at Sylus's content too, IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

Sylus didn't ruin us, as a Zayne main before, I can assure you, he didnt ruin me. It's just that I prefer Sylus because he is my type, I love his reassurance on Mc's insecurities, I wish I have someone like Sylus beside me, I still love Zayne regardless. It's called OTOME GAME for a REASON.

Please don't give up on defending our beloved as Sylus's fans. We love him and seems like we are the only one that knows him deeply.

If you're a player in LnD, we should stand together, no matter which character we love.

fuck CN antis

Humans doesnt want each other to enjoy A GAME in peace clearly speaks about how childlish we are as mankind. I don't see yall fighting for women's right that much since yall CN people likes Trump.

The post in the ss is from X user @sub_textually

[spaghettioverdose]

how did u went from anarchism to ml question mark

I was just going to write a couple paragraphs but I basically ended up writing a novel so I'm going to put a keep reading link here for my everyone's sanity.

Tl;dr: I became disillusioned with liberalism, became ancom, saw many silly takes and analysis that felt incomplete, became disillusioned with ancom, learned more about ml, went "this makes way more sense, has been applied in real life and has also helped many millions of people", became an ml.

I became an anarchist when I was in my late teens. I was already disillusioned with liberalism, and while I was sympathetic to socialism because I come from a formerly socialist country and grew up with stories about it from my grandmother, I was still of wary of it. Partially due to some of the genuinely bad things that happened during it and partially due to the immense amounts of anti-communist propaganda I was constantly bombarded with growing up. Then I found anarcho-communism which to me at the time seemed like "communism with none of the bad stuff".

I got into it, I watched ancom youtubers, I read Kropotkin, Graeber, Bakunin, I joined online ancom communities etc.

Slowly, over time I started becoming disillusioned with ancoms.I found myself having to defend marxist-leninist projects a lot (mostly from usamericans) against some very silly cold war anticommunist propaganda a lot. Such as the idea that everyone was just miserable and trying to escape the country or brainwashed by the leader's cult of personality.

Keep in mind that I myself ate up a lot of anticommunist propaganda growing up, but I also come from a formerly socialist country and had someone who was around during the socialist era of my country to ground my view of it in reality to some extent. Most of the ancoms in these communities only had the propaganda.

I also didn't like the way so many of these people talked more about an idealised, aestheticised, romanticised and abstract idea of revolution, and especially past failed anarchist revolutions, rather than talking about the material results of revolution.

Even when I still was mostly convinced by anarchist theory, I still found anarchist analysis to be incomplete and lacking predictive power and real world practice. Other anarchists tended to excuse the fact we didn't have a lot of revolutions and that the vast majority of them were crushed within their first couple years by saying things like "we were up against everyone" or "we were betrayed" which didn't really hold up. The bolsheviks had to fight everyone as well and yet they still won. Same with the Chinese communists who were also against massive internal and external threats. This is because in both cases they had popular support and were capable of analysing the material conditions and formulating policies based on that.

Another rebuttal was that every socialist revolution was state capitalism because it didn't adhere to a very simplified definition of socialism. I thought that lacked nuance and in the end it mattered to me less than the fact that it got results and helped millions of people, but it didn't prevent me from internalising this to some extent. I did (for at least some time) think that most ml states were incomplete revolutions that eventually fell to state capitalism.

When I did believe to these ideas I often fell into pits of despair, as did other ancoms, over the fact that in our world view, communism was essentially entirely defeated and at best we (as anarchists) had two current revolutions: the Zapatista (a group who follows marxist theory, refuses to call itself anarchis and controls a very small region and only due to an agreement with the government) and Rojava (who also controls a small region, is a military ally of the US and has a constitution which guarantees private property and definitely fits the anarchist definition of a state).

The holes in anarchist theory became even larger and more apparent to me once I started reading Marx and Lenin. The contrast in the explanatory and predictive power of dialectical materialism against the philosophical idealism of anarchist analysis eroded my remaining trust in anarchism very quickly.

Anarchist analysis severely lacked much class analysis beyond "people do evil things to each other because of the profit incentive of capitalism" and "power wants to hold onto power" which while in some ways is correct, it is vastly incomplete. Which is why the conclusion of this analysis, that after an anarchist revolution the profit incentive would simply be gone and so would reactionaries, also felt incomplete.

As it turns out it's also historically been proven wrong. Revolution doesn't stop when the civil war ends and that capitalists (even if disposessed) don't suddenly stop being reactionary and don't suddenly stop being a danger to the revolution.

However many anarchists also viewed historical events in a vacuum and lacked any sort of tools for materialist analysis and therefore came to silly conclusions about why things happened the way they did.

Many propositions on how an anarchist society would run resembled some variation of Old West homesteading, medieval peasant communes or some other strange individualist fantasies.

In the end I realised about anarchism that it entirely resembled the philosophically idealist utopian communism of old. A form of communism that lost the debate against the scientific communism of Marx, Engles and Lenin over a century ago and there is no reason to engage with it in the present day.

[little-red-book-daily]

Riding roughshod everywhere, U.S. imperialism has made itself the enemy of the people of the world and has increasingly isolated itself. The atom bombs and hydrogen bombs in the hands of the U.S. imperialists will never cow those who refuse to be enslaved. The raging tide of the people of the world against the U.S. aggressors is irresistible. Their struggle against U.S. imperialism and its lackeys will assuredly win still greater victories.

"Statement Supporting the Panamanian People's Just Patriotic Struggle Against U.S. Imperialism" (January 12, 1964), People of the World, Unite and Defeat the U.S. Aggressors and All Their Lackeys, 2nd ed., pp. 9-10.

[queercodedangel]

"The state–the police, army, courts, bureaucracy and similar institutions–is set up and controlled by this capitalist class. These big businessmen–the bourgeoisie, or monopoly capitalists–consistently use the police, army, national guard, courts and bureaucracies to break workers’ strikes and generally to put down the rebellions of the poor who own little or no means of production. The police, army and national guard are never called out against the class of bankers and corporation executives.

In short, this state is a bourgeois dictatorship. This does not mean there is a dictatorship in this country of one or several men. It does mean there is a class dictatorship, where a tiny handful of profit-makers rules society and uses the state as their machine to suppress the working people." - Proletarian Dictatorship Vs Bourgeois "Democracy"

[airplanned]

Frequently Asked Questions from the last two days:

There have been a lot of questions shot my way lately, and I'm a little overwhelmed. Sorry if I've missed anything.

Recurring things:

"I was going to do NaNo this year, but now I guess I won't!" NO! Writing is great! Just don't use their website! There are other online trackers if you don't feel like using excel. There are other online writing communities. I recommend 4theWords. I recommend finding out what your former ML is doing or asking your local library/bookstore if they're hosting anything.

"I didn't know there was an organization. What did they even do?" They had a website that tracked your progress and hosted an online forum of writers also doing NaNo. They also hosted the Young Writer's Program, which mostly ran out of schools and had more direction than the adult version. They also supported the MLs, who hosted in person write-ins, kick off parties, and occasionally a pot luck Thanksgiving dinner. Also, the sponsors of NaNoWriMo would often give discounts to winners. This is how everyone I know in real life affords Scrivner.

"Why is this time stamped from July?" A NaNoWriMo timeline of events: In 2023, there was a grooming scandal. It was ignored for months and then handled poorly. Later that year (*correction: it was in 2024), in response to the grooming scandal, they offered the MLs (Municipal Liaisons) new contracts that required them to moderate their regional forums, accept all liability for behavior at their in-person write-ins and their regional forums, and threw in an anti-defamation clause for good measure. In July of 2024, they posted on tumblr about "Ethical Ways to use AI." My screenshots result from that debacle. In September, they put out their official AI policy, and here we are.

"Why are you canceling them now and not over the grooming scandal?" My history with NaNoWriMo: I started doing NaNo in 2009. I stopped using the site in 2019, when the website was so glitchy that it wouldn't keep track of my word count, but I kept doing the challenge without them. I deleted my account in 2023 when the ML scandal broke. I forgot to unfollow them on Tumblr, because they don't post much. When I saw their July AI post, I commented "Boooo!" and unfollowed them. They promptly slid into my DMs.