#Alice (Genshin Impact)
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g0ldgauntlet · 5 months ago
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Hilichurls and "Tribal" Portrayals.
While we're talking about Natlan, I also want to mention how awful it is that a section of the fandom tried to make us all out to be crazy years ago for pointing out how racist the portrayal of the Hilichurls are.
Quick content warning for mentions of slavery, colonization, genocide, and anti-Indigenous racism. (Image description is in alt text)
Hoyo used Indigenous people as references for these in-game enemies, which we literally have video proof of, provided by the company itself (Timestamp: 1:30).
The Hilichurls were constantly belittled by Teyvat's people, with an Inazuma npc likening them to demons. I remember Paimon acting like the items they collected were meaningless or pieces of junk during the earlier parts of the game.
They become a lot more sympathetic later due to their actual origins in-game (which I'm sure @phoenix-creates can confirm for me because I know you're farther ahead in Genshin than I am right now), sure, but I always found it strange that Hoyo used Indigenous cultures to portray these "monsters" who have lost their sense of selves (meanwhile their human forms are white), as if to imply that Indigenous cultures are more "wild" or "savage."
Genshin fans of color, since 2020, have pointed out the racist undertones that Teyvat's people were perpetuating against the Hilichurls due to them acting the same way that racists irl act towards non-White cultures, but they were told that they were overreacting and this was swept under the rug as a result. The very next year, it's brought up again with more people finding out about it, and we were still being told that we're overreacting.
So now that we're at Natlan, is it seriously that hard to believe that Hoyo straight up just doesn't respect Indigenous cultures? Black (and many brown) cultures too, because it's very telling that Iansan, the Natlan character with the darkest skin so far, is given a more stereotypically "tribal" look on her design with a bunch of bones used as her accessories despite that not being what her actual inspiration looks like.
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(Artist for picture on the right: vieirapx on Instagram)
Sucrose has confirmed in her "Something to Share" voiceline that she collects Hilichurl bones, which is similar to colonizers taking the bones of dead Indigenous people with this added context.
Also, please read or reread the Teyvat Travel Guide Vol. 1. Alice basically confirms that she wants to enslave the Hilichurls for labor and also feed the weaker ones to the stronger ones.
That latter point is cannibalism. I know that many people are fans of Alice, but a lot of what she talks about in the first guide is why I don't like her.
Yes, it can be argued that Indigenous cultures are not the only inspiration for the Hilichurls, as it's been said that they may take inspiration from goblins, Bokoblins from the Zelda franchise, and the Amanojuku from Japanese mythology. Answer me this question, though.
Why is Hoyo capable of referencing a creature and not a human being when it comes to the Japanese inspiration for the Hilichurls, but this does not apply to the Indigenous references? It's dehumanizing, and it feels like another double-standard that needs to be addressed.
Hoyo has casually made black and brown cultures in Genshin appear to be less civilized and more "tribal" compared to our White and East Asian peers, both with the human characters and the non-human ones. Sumeru's quests and enemy npcs had multiple examples of this, with the Traveler and Jeht even destroying almost the entire Tanit tribe with the narrative justification being that, conveniently, most or all of them were selfish, bloodthirsty, and manipulative (Jeht's profile on the wiki page goes into what happened with more depth). They had to die because the tribe was dangerous - even though the main problem seems to be Babel - and Jeht's white, blonde companion needed to help save everyone from these evil, power-hungry savages.
(Sidenote: I think this is the second time overall that Hoyo has come up with an excuse to justify Traveler committing genocide on an entire group of people, with the first being the Iwakura Clan.)
I'm sure that the same thing is going to happen with Natlan's quests and npcs because Hoyo has always been weird about the portrayal of black and brown-inspired characters. The question is not whether any of the creatures or humans from specific groups are bad, suspicious, or designed to fit a specific image. We know the answer to that. The real question is why they are portrayed like this, and why it keeps happening more commonly to the black and brown cast members compared to our lighter peers.
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telephonedear · 5 months ago
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plot twist simulanka is actually venti’s second story quest. yeah barbatos actually created all of mondstadt. alice is the real forest fairy. scaramouche is still in there somewhere doing who knows what. yeah it’s true.
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those-gremlin-grapes · 7 months ago
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the GIRLIES!!! (WIP)
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lesbiamano · 8 months ago
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i've been drawing, designing and redesigning rhinedottir and alice for a longgg while now, but i've only ever posted that stuff on twitter so here's my most recent designs for them two! alice on the left and rhinedottir on the right of course!!
i love my old women yuri. the second pic is a lil older but still somewhat the same as the most recent designs
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ursas-arts · 9 months ago
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@monards @eruditic-akechi
On y'all's convos about Alice lifting up Rhine even though shes shorter
Wouldje;;;
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lilyandthegenshinbrainrot · 3 months ago
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The Hexenzirkel's Last Letters to Andersdotter: A record
Alice:
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Barbeloth:
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Nicole:
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Ivanovna:
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ehatnow · 6 months ago
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for the next summer event i want Alhaitham, Kaveh, Klee, Albedo, and some Natlan character to go run around some place Alice made bc i think it would be funny
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akko-kagori · 11 months ago
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I love Alice In Wonderland AUs, and I think Genshin has so many characters that perfectly fit for a Wonderland Au.
If you're having trouble figuring out who's who here's a list of who each character is supposed to represent:
Lyney: Mad Hatter
Lynette: March Hair (Mad Hatter's Rabbit)
Lumine: Alice
Diluc: Queen Of Hearts (Or I Guess In This Case King Of Hearts)
Alice: Cheshire Cat
And I ran out of space to put him in the image but Aether is the white rabbit, since the traveler is looking for their sibling in genshin
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aeroblossom · 1 year ago
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i know we're one archon off just enough to make the eight gym leaders in a pokemon au, but consider another approach: the archons as champions ft. some story ideas, i put a concerning amount of thought into this --
mondstadt champion venti (flying • fairy) is fought in secret, since no one can guess he's the champion. the mondstadt elite four are eula (ice • dark), klee (fire • fairy), jean (flying • grass) and finally diluc (fire • flying). venti is friends with celebi - as is nahida - and istaroth manifests as dialga. albedo is kind of like the professor for mondstadt, sucrose gives you your pokedex :] durin is yveltal. dvalin is rayquaza. no one knows about it, but kaeya is friends with articuno.
rhinedottir explores the abyss which is basically the genshin equivalent of the distortion world headed by giratina, aided by her signature hydreigon. dragonspine is our mt silver lol. alice has a delphox (klee has a fennekin) and mismagius. barbeloth, of the hexenzirkel, has a xatu. albedo has a garchomp. for some reason, i picture nicole with hatterene. mona has a cosmog!
zhongli is similar (rock • dragon). the order is hu tao (fire • ghost), yelan (water • dark), ganyu (ice • fairy) and finally xiao (flying • dark). childe boss, but he has like three typings - (water • dark)/(electric • dark)/(electric • water). he has a wailord and probably attempts to fight kyogre with his bare hands in fontaine. oh and his foul legacy is from palkia. the adepti are like pokemon rangers btw! and guizhong, after her death, appears also as a cosmog maybe? xiao has an absol, ganyu has suicune, hu tao has trevenant and spiritomb. azhdaha is groudon guys i'm sorry. ningguang is our professor archetype for liyue, and the pokedex is delivered by keqing on the orders of ningguang.
inazuma has two champions - one as the raiden shogun puppet (electric • steel), and one as ei herself (electric • fighting). ayaka (ice • steel), then kazuha (flying • steel) - but he gets exiled, and is replaced by ayato (water • steel). followed by kokomi (water • dragon), and finally yae miko (electric • fairy). yae miko has ninetales and zoroark, kokomi has milotic and nihilego! yes i know that's an ultra beast shhh. professor trope is yae miko, and you have to smuggle your confiscated pokedex with yoimiya and sayu's help.
sumeru champion nahida (grass • psychic), who is heeded by wanderer (flying • dark) as her deputy. wanderer is like n from pkmnbw, you fight him instead of the champion, the pseudo-champion. btw his signature would be a mega evolving banette. the first elite four member is dehya (fighting • fire), followed by cyno (electric • dark), then nilou (water • grass) who was recently appointed! and finally alhaitham (grass • flying). nilou's position used to be tighnari's (grass • poison) but since he left the akademiya, nilou took it. dehya has a female pyroar, nilou has lilligant. nahida and venti are familiars to celebi and the two formes of shaymin! rukkhadevata manifests as xerneas. apep is zygarde lol. token professor looks to be tighnari, but is really just nahida, and collei gives it to you.
for fontaine, i imagine furina (water • fairy) as the champion who sacrifices her position - and her life - so there's no seat of champion left. she later adopts the (water • dark) typing. the fontaine elite four is fought in this order: navia (rock • dark), wriothesley (ice • fighting), clorinde (electric • steel), and finally neuvillette himself (water • dragon OBVIOUSLY). alternatively, neuvillette assumes champion position and his seat as last member of elite four is supplanted by arlecchino (fire • dark)! neuvillette has a dragonair and is a familiar to kyogre, furina has lapras and manaphy/phione, arlecchino has a houndoom. additionally, lyney (fire • dark), lynette (flying • dark) and freminet (ice • steel) fight for arlecchino. ooh but imagine if they get ahold of latios and latias somehow, and use those to fight you! their signatures are gardevoir (lyney) and gallade (lynette) other than a pair of meowstic, and freminet has an empoleon as well as an espurr. sigewinne has a signature azumarill, and she's the professor! the pokedex you were meant to receive falls in the water, so freminet fishes it out for you.
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monards · 1 year ago
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the Hexenzirkel ladies all get absolutely SMOKED together every couple centuries, and come up with prophecies; with whoever’s prophecies actually comes true, not just being hallucinations, getting five dollars from the others
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N; five dollars betting Fontaine goes underwater lol
R; there’s no way that’s gonna happen.
(200 years later)
R; oh my fucking god.
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rhineposting · 7 months ago
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controversial celebrity moment
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crabsy94 · 2 months ago
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Alice staring at Rhine when child Albedo does something concerningly out of pocket that should warrant a parent’s attention and Rhine’s just like “I did the same as a kid” and Alice begins to question her childhood and why she is the one who was normal as a kid
(She was not normal as a kid, she was like Klee but more destructive)
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simpingandshitposting · 6 months ago
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WHY DID I NEVER KNOW THAT DAINSLEIF WAS CONFIRMED TO BE PLAYABLE???
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This WHOLE time I thought his playable status was ambiguous.
Like we didn't know if he was gonna be playable or if this was a Singora situation where the character design was fully fledged out but will never be playable
I thought we didn't know??? BUT IT WAS ANNOUNCED 4 YEARS AGO???? I haven't even been playing genshin that long 😭 how did I not know this?
What element would he even be? It doesn't make much sense for him to get a vision. And he's not an archon so he wouldn't have elemental power without a vision. He's from Teyvat so I can't imagine he'd be able to resonate with the elements like the traveler can.
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Omg do you think we'd get an 8th element? Like something weird and abyss related? It would be odd tho to make a whole new element just for one character. But maybe Dainsleif if just that special.
What if Skirk also had some weird abyss related element? Playable Alice with the same thing maybe (will we ever even get to meet Alice? I sure hope so. She seems so interesting.)
😮 GASP
WHAT IF WE GET A PLAYABLE UNKNOWN GOD AND SHE ALSO HAS A WEIRD 8TH ELEMENT???
Let me stop before I spiral even further. I should go to bed.
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those-gremlin-grapes · 7 months ago
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simplesaladsubblog · 2 months ago
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Let's be real
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ursas-arts · 11 months ago
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Another genshin doodle dump
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