#911 proxy

[frightfullytreeish]

I need father brian hot-priest (double-barrelled surname) to be at the funeral and I need him to somehow end up standing with buck and eddie and tommy and just be metaphorically or perhaps literally eating popcorn in a solemn and funerary manner whilst watching whatever the fuck unfolds

(and afterwards he maybe leans over to eddie and murmurs 'I'm happy to see you took my advice' and eddie's like 'who told you???'

father brian hot-priest: it's sort of obvious :)

eddie: *glances down to check he's wearing pants*)

[chronicowboy]

i know we've seen the goodbye so we know this doesn't happen but suspend your disbelief with me here. buck's dog gets really attached to eddie very quickly, so buck brings them along to say goodbye to him because it's only fair and it'd be nice to have the extra emotional support. anyway buck and eddie say their goodbyes, have their hug, then eddie crouches down to the dog's level and gives them all the pets he can. eddie voice. take care of the big guy for me, okay? it's a pretty easy job. just gotta take him out for some exercise when he gets restless and put him in timeout when he's naughty. buck voice. hey now. eddie voice. no but it's a real easy job, bud. you'll get used to it fast. just give him all the love you've got and he'll give it right back. that's all you've gotta do really. just love him. with everything you have. can you do that for me?

[eddiestightywhities]

“I had him, I swear, I—I kept him safe.”

[gayeddieagenda]

i am not hardly the person 2 lead this discussion but i do think we should be discussing how the luka trade is affecting (or will affect?? 911 timeline explained 3 hour youtube video essay) eddie diaz, apparent mavericks fan... like look eddie everyone's leaving texas for los angeles... maybe u should too... also how does this impact the ongoing betting odds on whether buddie (and christopher) will be seen at a lakers game in the near future...

[jeeyunspetrat]

so rare to have an episode where NO ONE at the 118 is going through it

[lovecolibri]

Spoiler because now I am actually pissed

We joke about Timmy reading fic but that's clearly not true because if he did, he'd know there is NO UNIVERSE in which we want to see Buck's first time having sex in Eddie's house be NOT WITH EDDIE.

We haven't seen Buck explicitly being with anyone really since s5 with Taylor at the beginning of the season. The next we saw SHOULD have been Eddie.

Anyway

[call-me-medusa]

eddie diaz: i’m going to connect with this kid from a call SO HARD

[happilylovingchaos]

Hello again @lonestar-s5countdown! I’m very late again but did another deep dive for more redemption stories! (With a lot of focus on TK) I also wanted to find stories that featured Tommy— she gets a lot less than Owen.

Tommy:

We rejoice in our suffering by Jecari: Tommy tries to reconnect with Charles and her daughters as she adjusts to returning to her job as a first responder.

Young love by Jecari: A snippet of how Charles and Tommy’s union evolves from their adolescence.

A little faith by SneetchesToo: A continuation of Tommy’s frustration at not being to have children (yet).

Heaven forbid by WhenSheReads: Tommy’s POV of 3x02 and her worry over TK’s condition.

At the end of the storm by RamblingDisaster73: The events of 3x03 to 3x04, from Tommy’s POV.

Owen:

It feels like an out of body experience by @marjansmarwani: A 2x12 coda that forces Owen to take responsibility for the collateral damage to TK and Carlos.

Catching up with the stars by RamblingDisaster73: Ten chapters of one-shots where Owen talks to Gwyn. (Oh, it also leads into the Grief theme!)

It’s not over series by SneetchesToo: Features Michelle in a more prominent role. And most of all, Owen eating quite a bit of humble pie and (un?)successfully coming to terms with the fact that he might need help.

Forgiven is not forgotten by winterschild: A 3x05 coda, where TK can only forgive Owen for being absent and indirectly (/accidentally) screwing over his life so many times. Especially when his latest date infringes on Carlos’ kidnapping case.

Deep Dive for Redemption:

The long way home by RamblingDisaster73: One of the more concise 3x04 codas that focus on Tarlos’ reconciliation.

Numb by come2gusu: A gritty look into how TK’s detox in California goes. Currently ongoing.

All this and Graceland too by misgivings: An AU where after TK breaks up with Carlos, he relapses and then recovers.

Fall on me by @moviegeek03: Judd looks for the man who put him and Grace in the hospital, and TK tries to intervene.

I’m so tired of being afraid by @marjansmarwani: TK does some introspection into why he’s reluctant to make his will because everyone’s roasting him about it was slightly funny but a lot of it also rubbed me the wrong way. Fear is completely understandable, even if it’s not excusable.

You say your past will cut me by RamblingDisaster73: Both a lead-in to the next theme, Grief, and a Redemption story where Owen, TK and Carlos try to recover from the plane malfunction in 3x08.

Pinned like a butterfly by benjaminrussell: … I discovered this addition to last week’s theme fic recs too late. Sorry, Paul!

You can’t hide from time by @marjansmarwani: With Carlos by his side, TK visits New York and the firehouse team he left behind.

Something for the pain by @moviegeek03: A post-ice storm coda where two families saved by the 126 pays the favor forward.

To celebrate some of the wonderful fic in this fandom, we will be compiling fic recs that fit the theme of each week of the countdown!

This week, the theme is Redemption. Fic featuring characters getting redeemed, characters seeking and earning forgiveness, characters learning from their mistakes or characters proving themselves is particularly on point here! You can also rec any fic featuring Owen Strand and/or Tommy Vega, the two characters we’re putting a bit of extra focus on this week.

If you have fic recs to contribute, make a post and tag it ‘911ls season 5 countdown fic recs’ or tag @lonestar-s5countdown! At the end of the week, we’ll make a post with all of the week’s fic recs.

This is open to everyone, but also tagging some fic readers who might be interested:

@thisbuildinghasfeelings @herefortarlos @reasonandfaithinharmony @she-walked-away @lemonlyman-dotcom

@paperstorm @reyesstrand @nancys-braids @heartstringsduet @tellmegoodbye

@ironheartwriter @fifthrideroftheapocalypse @alrightbuckaroo @whatsintheboxmh @carlos-in-glasses

@firstprince-history-huh @welcometololaland @rmd-writes @strandnreyes @emsprovisions

@fallout-mars @freneticfloetry @theghostofashton @lightningboltreader @fangirl-paba

[maygrcnt]

i’m a very superstitious person, there’s a few things i consider to be rules of the universe. one of which being the rule of threes. so there’s one thing that— if it comes up one more time in 911— will make me believe in canon buddie by the end of the season, possibly even the end of the episode.

in 2x01 the call that creates buck and eddie’s friendship, where they decide to have each others backs, is helping a man named charlie. They very prominently ask for and repeat this man’s name. Probably not meaning anything at the time but interesting when looking at this pattern.

in 4x13 the child they suspect of being a munchausens by proxy victim is named charlie. Obviously the episode of the shooting, the will, the everything of it all. But also the episodes where rumors have it that buddie was supposed to be some form of canon but blocked by fox higher ups. If you believe in these rumors it starts to be really interesting that both of the victims in these situations share the same name.

so to me, a sure fire sign that it’s happening is if we get an emergency where they establish the victim being named charlie and have buck and eddie take point on the rescue. third times the charm!

[kaijuugroupie]

911 BETTER give buck a comfort season in s9. I need him and Eddie going on romantic dates that get ruined but they end up kissing and laughing anyway, I need him visiting a very much alive Bobby in his grumpy retirement phase, I need him and Maddie going on a silly sibling low stakes detective heist, I need him holding ALL the babies, I need him to give a by-proxy shovel talk to Ravi when he ends up asking May out, need Christopher to adopt HIM and have him sobbing on the floor OUTTA HAPPINESS THIS TIME, AND A PROPOSAL!!!!!!!!!! A SAPPY CHEESY OBVIOUS PROPOSAL !!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[sharp-silver4795]

Haii

You always say Liu has some questionable morals... Why? What does that mean?

Liu Woods: Psychopath

Hahahah he’s a psychopath. From childhood to adulthood, he’s a manipulative & violent liar. There’s a place I mention that I call “The Den.” It’s basically a hole in the ground that becomes a basement sort of deal that he tortures his victims at.

⚠️ Psychopathy (ASPD) does NOT make someone a bad person!!!! The word “psychopath” is often misunderstood and misused. In this case, I am using “psychopath” in a LEGAL AND CRIMINAL TERM which has a different definition than the MEDICAL term for ASPD. ⚠️

As a Child

He was just violent.

No one ever noticed when he did what he did, though. Until he went to America and had 3 dumbasses watching his and his brother’s every damn step!

The Rabbit.

When Jeff was 4, he saw Liu strangle a bunny. He confronted his older brother who told him it was just a dream.

Of course, he believed Liu…

The Fox.

It was raining and Liu was bored inside.

He saw a fox in the backyard, went to the garage, and then to the fox.

He tied a rope around its neck and pulled it up to a tree, then watch it struggle to stay alive.

The Lizard.

Jeff was scared of lizards as a kid. So, when Jeff said there was a lizard on the side of the house, Liu took care of it for him.

At first, he teased Jeff, holding it up.

After Jeff whined a bit, he put the lizard between his two massive hands and crushed it to death.

7 year old Jeff was scarred for life…

The Drunk Woman.

A party was going on at a neighbour’s house.

A woman was struggling to breathe behind the building as she was WAYY to drunk.

Jeff found her and asked Liu if he should call 911.

Liu told him to, and he went to the car to get a phone…

While he was gone, Liu covered the woman’s mouth and nose to watch her suffocate.

She was dead when authorities arrived.

How they were found out

When under interrogation, the police showed Jeff an old meeting with Liu.

An officer was asking him questions that seemed benign to him. But it gave her more than enough information.

Hi, there! Liu, right? (Yes). Good! I have a few questions. (Shoot). Have you ever gone hunting? (No). Have you ever killed an animal? (Yes). When? What animals? (He tells her). It’s not uncommon for psychopaths- the ones who end up being killers- to start small. They kill small animals and work their way up to people. They like that power. Psychopathy, in simple terms, is categorised by not having empathy under any circumstances. It’s inherited. You know, there was a woman that was called an empty case. It was assumed she suffocated on her own vomit. But, further investigation shows that her breathing was obstructed. Something was covering her airways. According to street footage, you and your little brother were the only ones who went near her. And you were the only one there long enough to suffocate her.

As an Adult

Manipulation

You saw him kill someone?

No you didn’t.

He has to keep his reputation in the Mansion as the innocent bean.

You don’t think he’s innocent? Welcome to hell, bitch! You’re going to The Den.

Pathological Liar

He wasn’t doing anything.

He didn’t shoot that proxy.

Unnecessary Torture

He remakes torture devices he sees.

For example the reverse bear trap from SAW

He’s uses poison gas that was used in WWI (mustard and chloride)

He chopped up an older man while he was still alive and scattered his remains around his house for his wife and kids to find. He had nothing against that man. He just thought it would be funny.

He will offer someone the choice of which order they want the water and boiling wax on their head. However, he doesn’t tell them the water is also boiling hot.

He uses a plank of wood to train them into knowing when they’re gonna get hurt. If the block is to the side, he’s not in the room, if it’s in front of them, he’s in the room, when he kicks the plank down…. Hell’s about it break loose.

Brainwashing

He’s known for breaking people into forgetting their names, families, friends, etc.

He can give them a new identity.

It’s like 1984-style torture. He uses their fears and their pain to make them change stories to not be what they are.

Special Treatment

He doesn’t give a shit about anyone other than Jason, Jack, Jeff, Toby, Cody, Brian, and Kids.

Cannibalism

He doesn’t mind eating people.

Not just in life or death situations. He sees it as a ‘treat’.

Like how people on diets view cookies.

Divider Creds: sisterlucifergraphics

[girl-bateman]

AND their doing münchausen by proxy ?? What a fucking treat 😍

Unexpected saviour sibling mention on the 911 show lets gooooo !!!!!!!!!!!

[project-pleiades]

Okay so it’s seems I have brain rot by proxy the way I’m sitting in bed, repeatedly refreshing my tumblr to see the 911 abc updates I’m just gonna binge the show

[sammoose22]

Hello lovely people of 911,

Please please please give me fic recs where either Buck or Eddie is hurt and the other turns out to be their power of attorney/medical proxy and everyone reacts to that?

(I love seeing the 118 fam react to how intertwined Buck and Eddies lives are, some fics even have them both already knowing and having discussed what they want in certain situations, like if they want to pull the plug if they’re on life support too long)

[alea-says]

Fic Planning - H50 / 911 Crossover

Creating a post for bouncing H50/911 crossover ideas...

The main problem I have here, is that I have *so many* different ideas on how these two shows could crossover. Because I have so many ideas, I am also interested in what others find most intriguing.

Oh, also putting at the beginning: I am a McDanno and Buddie shipper, so anything I write will likely go that route.

Various thoughts on how the characters could meet:

While Buck was wandering around during his traveling years, he ended up in Newark in winter. Detective Danny Williams wasn't going to let Buck (at that time known as Evan) to sleep in his car

The typical - Buck meets Steve at BUD/S or, Buck actually became a SEAL and met Steve that way

Eddie met Steve while both were serving

The complicated: Buck was a SEAL. But he doesn't know this. Buck's last mission as a SEAL left him with memory-loss. For some reason, the higher-ups decided that it was best to not try and get Buck's memory back. Seeing as he remembered BUD/S but nothing after, they told him he was in a car accident, that he's been drifting around traveling (to explain any memories he may have of different countries, etc), and he rang out of BUD/S years ago. Buck believes them. So when he tells Bobby he rang out, he believes that to be true. Meanwhile, Buck's SEAL team get told he died. So Steve, thinks Buck is dead. Until one day when he sees Buck on the news... which could be any of a number of times - ladder truck, the well, aftermath of the tsunami, the shooting, etc

Various times at which the shows could crossover / a fic be set:

After the ladder truck bombing - Buck still has either Danny or Steve (depending on who he's already met) listed as his medical proxy. Hand-wavy with medical stuff as I don't know how it works in the US, but maybe his earlier injuries on the job weren't enough to need more than his emergency contact. This time, with medical decisions needing to be made while Buck can't make those decisions, they have to make the call.

As an alternative to the lawsuit - after finding out Bobby is holding him back, Buck gets a call (from either Danny or Steve), and ends up confessing what is going on. He then gets invited to Hawaii for a bit. Thinks, why not, seeing as he's not being allowed to work anyway.

Fight-ring era. Eddie knows he needs to get out of the fighting, but also that he may be in deeper than he'd thought. So he rings an old friend to help him get out and keep his family safe.

the tsunami - the same day Buck and Chris are at the Pier, so are Steve and Grace (hand-waving timelines here). After Buck loses Chris and while he's looking for him, he comes across Grace. Who has been split up from her Uncle Steve. Meanwhile, Steve finds Chris. For this one, the characters have not necessarily met before.

Eddie's breakdown. Eddie finds out all those he saved have since died. Meanwhile, one of those who died did so in Hawaii and Five-0 investigate. Turns out the deaths maybe aren't so accidental after all. So they have to try and contact the last remaining survivor before he becomes another victim. (Alternatively, they could stop the killer before *all* of those Eddie saves dies)

and I could keep going... so many thoughts...

(@bybobbysbeard @mayberrycryptid @dielgonacoffee thank you for your interest in helping bounce ideas and please let me know if you know of an easier way to do this)

[bigskydreaming]

Something I'm always meaning to delve into more in terms of media/literary analysis is the idea that a lot of assumptions made about how writers/shows FEEL about various characters based on how a narrative treats them or is shaped around them....is better attributed to those things being symptomatic of the role those characters occupy in a story.

Like I just mean....Buck from 911 is a great example of this IMO. A very common trend in fandom w/fandom faves is to project heavily onto fave characters from the basis of 'this character, like me, is often unappreciated or taken advantage of or always ends up being the one apologizing even when its not fair or they weren't the one in the wrong.'

And to be clear, I'm not saying this with any sort of judgment. Hell, I do it with a lot of my faves too (cough cough Dick Grayson) bc like, ppl come to fandoms for a lot of different reasons and look to get different things out of fandom and fanfic and discussing meta & the like.....and that can often include using favorite characters as proxies to work out our personal frustrations about not being viewed or interacted with by the people in our lives in the ways that we would like to or feel like we deserve.

So there's an understandable element to ppl gravitating to (and projecting onto) characters that we view as mirroring situations or dynamics we've experienced in our own lives, and seeing them as an opportunity to give voice to complaints about them being mistreated/unappreciated by their friends & families...that maybe reflect things we sometimes feel about our own personal dynamics but keep to ourselves for fear of rocking the boat or worrying that maybe we actually are being unreasonable.

(Because after all, sometimes we ARE being unreasonable when feeling that 'so and so just doesn't UNDERSTAND what we were thinking/why we did something' and like, on some level we KNOW that and are aware that the adult thing to do is to just.....let it go....but before we do that, we've got to spend some time sitting in our Feels. Enter....fanfic and character proxies).

I mentioned Buck from 911 because he's a classic example of a white fave that's been woobified to hell and back by his fandom, with a disproportionate amount of fandom focus devoted to the times other characters do him wrong, or he's treated unfairly by a narrative or ends up apologizing despite not being the one at fault.....

BUT. Its not that people are pulling these instances completely out of their ass, IMO....there IS basis for fans feeling that certain storylines are at his expense.....

I just disagree with a lot of the conclusions drawn as to WHY these storylines play out these ways.

There's a tendency with fandom faves that are projected onto in these specific ways....to be seen or talked about as if they're a show or comic or book's designated punching bag. Like all this stuff happens to them, the narrative draws the wrong idea about who was right and who was wrong....because the writer(s) don't "get" or appreciate or maybe even LIKE the character as much as they do the other characters.

But in Buck's case at least, that's just 100% not a thing. That's not the issue. He's a clear fave of the writers, he's a central, if not THE central focus of the show nine out of ten times.....like. He's not neglected or unloved by the show or the writers or the narratives. He's just flat out not, lol.

And yet.....there are plenty of occasions where I would agree that the show makes some very weird (and even upsetting) choices when it comes to resolving his interpersonal conflicts with various other characters, or wrapping up one of his storylines. A lot of the "making up" scenes after a big fight DO have him caving, or being the one to apologize even if he wasn't the one instigating or engaging in the more obviously harmful behavior, etc. And it could even be argued that if you were to tally up all the times you think the show frames something as Buck being the one in the wrong or the one needing to do more to make things right, compared to the times the show frames other characters being blatantly wrong or needing to make amends.....these tallies would have Buck "in the lead."

But the thing is, you gotta look at the reasons WHY things shape out that way.

For instance:

1. Buck IS a clear central focus of the show....and that means he gets a disproportionate amount of the narrative's focus or screentime, compared to a lot of other characters. And when you're on screen more than most anyone else, then yes, you're going to be able to add up more examples of pretty much ANYTHING, relative to the other characters. That's a numbers game.

Buck is 'in the wrong' with more of the other characters, more often than any other character....because the show devotes more time & focus to HIS interpersonal conflicts. You're not often going to see Chimney being all mea culpa with Bobby after a big fight they have, compared to how many times the show has Buck framed that way....because (post Season One) the show just flat out doesn't SHOW Chimney and Bobby having interpersonal conflicts or dynamics to the same degree it has Buck and Bobby engaged in those.

2. In a procedural ensemble like 911, every character has a specific niche. And those niches play a huge role in how the writers approach setting up, crafting and resolving each character's solo storylines. This isn't a reflection of writer bias so much as narrative convenience. Buck's niche within the show is the little brother of Station 118, Maddie's little brother, Bobby's surrogate son, etc.

And so, when things need a quick resolution, the narrative has to cut corners to wrap up a solo character's C Plot so the episode can get back to focusing on its A and B plots.....yeah, a lot of times the writers default back to the simplest and most basic elements of older sibling/younger sibling, parent/child, mentor/protege dynamics.

And because of how we tend to approach those particular dynamics as a society in general....come crunch time, the writers aren't really looking to reinvent the wheel or choose the final ten minutes of an episode or seasonal arc as the ideal time to subvert expectations here.

So....a lot of times, yeah, Buck 'draws the short straw' and defers to the wisdom of his elders, is quicker to apologize or admit wrongdoing, chalk things up to being reckless or immature, even if that's not necessarily what the narrative UP to that point had been building towards....but this isn't because nobody understands Buck or appreciates him or thinks he can ever be the one in the right when fighting with Bobby or Eddie or Chimney or Maddie.....its because its just narratively more convenient for the writers, to steer things towards a resolution that dovetails into social expectations.

The surrogate child is more likely to be viewed as the one who needed to learn a lesson than the surrogate parent, the younger sibling has more to acknowledge or appreciate about what the older sibling does on their behalf, the less experienced firefighter is more likely to have jumped the gun or made the wrong call than his teammates who have years of experience over him.

These things aren't knocks against his character - at least that's not the intent in a lot of these resolutions, IMO - bc not every writing choice in a writer's room is made with the aim of being the optimal choice for that character. Sometimes its just....shooting deadlines means they need the final draft of the script, the showrunner tells whomever is doing final pass on the pages to get that climactic character conflict scene wrapped up, and when in doubt....go with the quickest and easiest way to bring those characters to a resolution.

Now, you can certainly argue whether or not this is good writing, or ideal prioritization....but I mean, that's kinda the point of fanfic, isn't it? To explore the aspects/elements/angles of characters and stories that the source material skimps on or leaves on the cutting room floor due to corporate interests, studio & editorial mandates, actor & budget & scheduling conflicts or limitations, etc. My point isn't "oh you should just accept these writing & character choices and never disagree with them ever" its just...."you should not default to assuming these writing and character choices obviously happened because Everybody Hates Buck."

Anyway, this is the point where tumblr glitched on me and gave me heartburn when this post abruptly disappeared and gave me a red bar saying "your post was too out of this world and you crashed the tumblr editor" so despite having more to say I will NOT be chancing it and thus here, have a completely random denoument, the end, and SCENE. This has been a post. Thanks for tuning in!