#3x03 And the Reunion of Evil
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insp. | The Librarians Shipathon 2017 | Week 10 - Jassekiel |
#The Librarians#The Librarians TNT#librariansshipathon#Jacob Stone#Cassandra Cillian#Ezekiel Jones#Jassekiel#1x01 And the Crown of King Arthur#1x02 And the Sword in the Stone#2x02 And the Broken Staff#2x04 And the Cost of Education#2x08 And the Point of Salvation#3x03 And the Reunion of Evil#fcedits
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Roswell, New Mexico Timeline (through season 4)
1x01- reunion 1x02- 1 week later Liz visits Rosaâs grave 1x03- 2 days (?) the morning after Malex have sex again 1x04- morning after the drive-in/blackout 1x05- morning after since Noahâs looking for Iz 1x06- the same night Max tells Liz the story 1x07- 1 week later police question Liz about the fire 1x08- 1 day or 2 after Iz admitted on psych 1x09- 6 weeks later Michael & Liz work on an antidote 1x10- next day, Alex talks to Michael, Iz is out of the pod 1x11- 1 day or 2 after, Iz shares her memory of Rosa 1x12- 3 days after Noahâs been in a pod 1x13- morning after Noah escapes
Whole season = around 10 weeks (Start of June through the 2nd week of August)
2x01- 2 weeks from Max dying 2x02- 2 weeks Mimiâs been missing 2x03- 2 weeks Michael has been at Pony 2x04- 2 weeks Isobelâs been going to cafe/ Michael been in âweeks-long hibernationâ 2x05- next day, but then 3 weeks Max recovers and Iz attacks 2x06- 3 days theyâve been giving Max antidote 2x07- 1 week Rosaâs been training 2x08- 1 day or 2 âcause Max follows up on Jenna 2x09- that night they talk to Sanders, Max is arrested 2x10- 1 or 2 days later, they road trip to the reservation 2x11- 1 week since Alex never made it to the AF base 2x12- 1 day later, Michael building the bomb 2x13- that night, âtonight at Crashcon,â then a few (3?) days later
Season 2= 15 weeks; Through late November
3x01- 1 year after s2 finale (episode is 2 days) 3x02- the next day they put Jones in cage 3x03- next day, Lockhart machine on day 46 in previous episode and then goes off 3x04- next day Jones escapes 3x05- next day after Max heals Kyle and causes Liz to collapse 3x06- next day after Kyle went missing 3x07- next day because Jones healed Max 3 days ago 3x08- next day or 2, Michael says water tower was âthe other dayâ (2 or 3 days ago) 3x09- 3 days later, Max has been asleep for 2 days/ Alex has exposed to machine for 2 days (episode is 2 days) 3x10- 2 days later, Michael says they fixed it a few days ago 3x11- day after, urgency to get save them from Jones 3x12- the same day, episode leads to night/the next day 3x13- same day, nine hours later because thatâs the time limit of the serum they defeat Jones. Then, episode one day later
(Whole season = 18 days or 2 weeks and 4 days) A year later, through the end of November into early December
Season 4 = 6 months later
4x01- June 14th Hatch Day 4x02- The next day, after St Elmoâs Fire 4x03- A day later at night- Michael meets Bonnie. Ep goes through another day 4x04- That night and then the next day after Mimi dies 4x05- Next day, Tezca mindscapes Max 4x06- Next day, Isobel and Kyle morning after & Michael still sick 4x07- Next day, Max powerless and Liz is mad 4x08- Next day, Maria, Liz and Rosa panic about Alex 4x09- Next day, Liz in mist coma 4x10- Next day, evil!Liz jumps into science 4x11- Next day, Michael searches for Alex & Liz back at Crashdown, moved out 4x12- Next day, Liz detoxing and Malex attempt at wedding/ fuel to leave 4x13- Same day, daytime when they fight Clyde; but then another day (or two, maybe more?) until the wedding and then the day after the wedding, Max leaves
Whole season = about 16 days (2 weeks, 2 days)
Relationship Timelines:
- Michael sleeps with Alex 6 weeks, 4 days before sleeping with Maria. Alex talks with Maria and in less than a week, she kisses Michael.Â
- Michael ghosts Maria for 2 weeks. Then, 2 weeks later, Michael parks at Pony and stays for 2 weeks, then she pushes him away. After 5 weeks, 3 days, she calls him: cornfield incident. They officially date for 3 weeks, 2 days
- Liz and Max kiss 7 weeks and 4 days after Max confesses his love. They sleep together a week later.Â
-After Max is resurrected, he and Liz sleep together and then they date officially for 3 weeks 2 days.Â
- About a week after Forrest leaves, Michael kisses Alex. Malex officially are together for the last 9 days (week and 2 days) of the season.
- Liz admits she still loves Max 10 days after she came back to Roswell. They finally kiss a week after that and officially get back together.
- About a week after Isobel meets Anatsa, she asks her out for drinks. Isobel and Anatsa start seeing each other for the last 5 days of the season.
- Alex gets trapped in Theoâs dimension for 11 days. Michael learns heâs missing after a week and goes after him on day 9. Â
- Michael and Alex move in together after being together 6 months, and then get married roughly 2 weeks after they move in.
- Max and Liz have officially been dating for 6 months (plus the 3 some weeks they were together before) and have been living together for 4 months when Max tries to propose.
- Liz tries to propose roughly 2 weeks after Max tries to propose.
- Isobel kisses Kyle a week after she breaks up with Anatsa, 6 days after she learns about his feelings.
#malex#echo#roswell nm#roswell new mexico#rnm season 4#rnm s1#rnm s2#rnm s3#rnm s4#rnm timeline#roswell nm timeline#michael and alex#liz and max#isobel and kyle#kyblel#anit-miluca
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StackedNatural Day 28: 1x06, 3x03, 14x02
StackedNatural Masterpost: [x]
October 18, 2021
1x06: Skin
Written by: John Shiban
Directed by: Robert Duncan McNeill
Original air date: October 18, 2005
Plot Synopsis:
A serial killer shape-shifter adopts the likeness of Sam's college buddy to commit a gruesome murder. When the brothers investigate, the being "borrows" Dean's form to continue the killing spree.
Features:
Samâs college friends, the first shapeshifter, manhunt for Dean, Deanâs first official âdeathâ.
My Thoughts:
This is SUCH a classic episode. The opener is really well filmed with a great reveal of Deanâs face, the special effects are actually good (and gross) all the way through, the aesthetics are off the charts. Itâs a great example of the first few seasons at their best.
Weâre only six episodes in to the entire series and theyâve already written THEE Dean thesis episode. Literally look at the notable lines down there. I love that itâs delivered by Deanâs face but Jackles plays it just enough different that you can tell itâs not Dean. Iâm into it.
Also, @weedsinavacantlot, did I clock your alley again? Is this the same Romeo + Juliet neon cross reunion alley from season 13?
Notable/Kickass Lines:
âHeâs sure got issues with you. You got to go to college. He had to stay home. I mean, I had to stay home. With Dad. You donât think I had dreams of my own? But Dad needed me. Where the hell were you? [...] See, deep down, Iâm just jealous. You got friends. You could have a life. Me? I know Iâm a freak. And sooner or later, everybodyâs gonna leave me.â
âEvolution is about mutation, right? So, maybe this thing was born human but was different. Hideous and hated. Until he learned to become someone else.â
â Itâs funny. I kind of understand him. Heâs all aloneâclose to no one. All he wants is for someone to love him. Heâs like me.â
Lauraâs (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 9.2
IMdB rating: 8.4
3x03: Bad Day at Black Rock
Written by: Ben Edlund
Directed by: Robert Singer
Original air date: October 18, 2007
Plot Synopsis:
The Winchesters are called regarding a robbery of their father's storage unit, and track down the robbers to find the item stolen is a cursed rabbit's foot, which provides great luck until lost, and once lost the previous owner dies within a week. Sam picks up the foot and has great fortune, until it is pickpocketed away by the mercenary Bela. Dean must then get it back before Sam's bad luck gets him killed. To complicate the whole situation, Gordon, from his prison home, has convinced two other hunters that Sam is pure evil and must be killed.
Features:
Gordon is in prison, cursed rabbitâs foot, Bela Talbot, Sam gets shot and loses a shoe, the hunt for Sam is on.
My Thoughts:
This arc with Gordon leading other hunters to chase Sam down and kill him is what the Cole arc in season 10 wishes it was. I forget Cole exists the moment heâs no longer on screen. Gordon is a cool villain.
Love the juxtaposition of Samâs soccer trophy and Deanâs first shotgun. Clearly only one of these boys got even the semblance of a childhood.
Every fight scene in this episode is so silly and fun to watch. They do such a great Chekovâs gun fake out with the beer bottle that the guy eventually trips over.
I am SO obsessed with Bela. When she said âa great thiefâ, I whispered out loud âplease marry meâ. She is so cool and I wish sheâd lasted like 10 more seasons. Maybe we all would have believed in Deanâs heterosexuality more if she stuck around.
Notable/Kickass Lines:
âShe's lying, you gotta know that, don't you? She knows what your weakness is â it's me.â
âOh, wow! It's my first sawed-off. I made it myself. Sixth grade.â
âI lost my shoe.â
âBeing a Hunter is so much more noble? A bunch of obsessed, revenge-driven sociopaths trying to save a world that can't be saved?â
âWe're all going to Hell, Dean. Might as well enjoy the ride.â
âWe're on deck for the endgame here, right?â
âIâm batman!â
Lauraâs (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 9.6
IMdB Rating: 9.3
14x02: Gods and Monsters
Written by: Buckleming
Directed by: Richard Speight Jr.
Original air date: October 18, 2018
Plot Synopsis:
Sam finds a clue to Dean's whereabouts, so he, Mary and Bobby set out to investigate. Castiel imparts some sage advice on Jack, who, still desperate to belong, seeks out a familial connection.
Features:
Nickâs revenge, Michaelâs monster-enhancing experiments, Jack meets his grandparents, Michael frees Dean.
My Thoughts:
Before the episode even started Megan and I were ranting about how they established that the blade they used on Lucifer didnât kill the vessel and they didnât ever think to use it on Michael!Dean. And they established it when Dean was already possessed by Michael! Truly terrible writing.
Actually, for a Buckleming episode this isnât too bad at all. Mark P. is definitely a better Lucifer than he is a Nick, but heâs not unwatchable. The first scene between Cas and Nick is well done, and there are some beautifully acted, emotional scenes between Cas and Jack. Plus, that scene between Jack and his grandparents? I almost teared up!
@meg3point0 said that the reason Jack is willing to kill Dean to get Michael is that he finally met people that he loves who arenât hunters and canât protect themselves from him.
Notable/Kickass Lines:
âThat was no man. Thatâs not man. Thatâs a monster. Itâs a monster, and then Lucifer found me and made me a monster, too.â
âI had something else that was extremely helpful. I had myself. Just the basic me, as, uh...as Dean would say, without all the bells and whistles. You know, Sam and Dean, they werenât born with their expertise. Theyâve been at it since they were children. Failing, winning, developing over the years. Patience, persistence - those are skills too. The past, where you come from, thatâs important, but it is not as important as the future and where youâre going.â
âYou know, in all my thousands of years, what happened to Jimmy Novak and his family are my greatest regret.â
Lauraâs (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 7.5
IMdB Rating: 8.0
In Conclusion: I always forget how goddamn good early season episodes are. Super excited to be able to chart out how I feel about the series as a whole at the end of this experiment!
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ok talk about why clac.e didn't work pls -deamaia
Oof rant here we go. letâs hope it all makes sense because i ramble a lot when i rant. For me itâs the damn writing for them is why c!ace didnât work, (the chemistry is another one but the writing drives me nuts) So in s1, c!ace was developed as a somewhat high school/your basic white YA novel couple and they stay like this for the rest of the series, they never grew out of it. Until like their last damn scene in 3x22Most of their writing always fell flat in s1, the moments were either down right creepy or just look like they wanted to bang the entire time, they were supposed to have like romantic stepping stones for their relationship and yet, there was none, nothing felt romantic (this can fall on the no chemistry thing as well but I felt like it was the writing as well). But there was some moments you could be like okay cute, but you can realize everytime they had that âoh cuteâ moment damn Ruelle was playing in the background so we can just thank her for that. Like in 1x11 they had like this moment about what happened in the TWI universe, theyâre talking about how this is real and shit Iâm like you are trying to tell me that what they said in the AU world is what they felt? Sh!Jace was there for like two seconds and got stabbed! And sh!Clary legit faded out of existence for awhile there, how did she know how that Clary felt??? I was so confused it was supposed to be a romantic moment and yet it confuses the fuck out of me.  S2 things just get worse because of siblings plot shit and the fact is they still try to move them along as a couple but just ended up making them have a brotherly-sisterly bond, and the fact is they probably couldâve ended the plot sooner but choose not to and show us Clary moving on with Simon and Jace sleeping with people to forget heâs in love with his sister. Tbh they forgot about c!ace until 2x14 and they suddenly remembered that they were endgame and rushed to get them back together, which some of their moments during that time was yeah sorta okay I still didnât feel anything romantic going on for them, that fucking glow-y scene in 2x19 is scarred into my brain, thatâs like supposed to be romantic-bonding for 2.0 of their relationship is just what the fuck. Without the special effects I wouldâve hated to be a cast member watching them hold onto each other while a fan blows air, I wouldâve walked off or just cried from how bad it was. And than we have the oh so famous c!ace scenes in 2x20, I still honestly canât remember feeling for them here, like yeah heâs dead but hes gonna come back in like two seconds. And that damn âi love youâ scene that shouldâve been cut, one never addressed it, didnât make any sense (was just there because someone was a little upset that Malec was gonna get a whole I canât live without you scene) and two because I feel like because is might have been the road to that damn stupid ass shit Jamie gives them and therefore the other writers who actually have brains had to.So now s3 which is the start of everybody is tired of the unearned crap c!ace is given. Because here is when they start trying to build up c!ace (and s!zzy too) as this epic in love, meant to be couple, which is a lot of my eyerolls in 3a come from. You really donât see it in the first episode but boy in the ones after it you do. The whole talk in 3x02? Like what the fuck where did that come from because I sure as fuck donât feel like you have given those emotions off before and I donât remember you looking like this in the s1/s2 writing where was that and also this is basically Magnusâs fucking lines from 2x07! I donât remember what the fuck happens in 3x03 other than Izzy wearing that dress and the Malec/Maryse dinner. But 3x04 is just a fucking mess and itâs by our favorite writer Jamie!! Who wrote those incesty lines in 2x04! But sheâs here writing lines out for c!ace that donât make any fucking sense and itâs just for c!ace fans. like the whole âMy love for clary is stronger than your magicâ bullshit, just what the hell, that whole episode is basically telling me that they love each other, but they arenât showing me because thatâs how storytelling works, you gotta do both, Malec has it, itâs not that hard. And also I totally almost forgot that half of s3 was spent with Jace forcing Clary not to tell anyone about the wish, ooo couple goals, not. Than 3x05 happens, tbh I forgot most, other than the Malec drama with the stupid timeline which effects the whole damn show and the angel getting his heart punched out by Lilith and Jace getting spelled.But yeah that stupid ass two month timeline that effects the whole show because Alec and Magnus really began their relationship in s1, they just didnât make it official to the whole world in s2. It really hurts c!ace and their epic love story they try to give us. Because how did they fall in love to the point where Lilith had to get Magnus to spell Jace, because heâs so in love with her that itâs stronger than the Queen of Hellâs magic???? Unless theyâre trying to tell me that they either fell in love in s1 or during the time they thought they were siblings.Which is really fucking bad, so when did they fall in love?! They never showed me in the episodesâ writing. Anyways moving on, c!ace gets some more toxic moments and that another âI love youâ scene which just had me on the ground because why Jesus. Do they do this to me. And than we have Izzy talking about how much Jace has changed since they met Clary which has me like this????? âCause hm, well ever since Jace met Clary, heâs treated his siblings like shit and became even more of an asshole, and thatâs stayed the same over the past three seasons? Where is the change? Here you see that theyâre trying to make them seem like Alec and Magnus, whoâve actually changed since they met each other, c!ace? Thatâs nowhere in their writing. Then we have the whole 3x08 thing where heâs killing clary in his mind, which i have no words for that since i only watched it once. 3x10, good episode, no c!ace moments other than that fake ass cry and âcLAEEERYâ yell. And now 3b is where we get to see all of the book!c-lace moments that either donât make any sense or are just plain toxic. 3x11 I basically skip all of the Jace-c!ace related moments mainly because i canât stand his face and i watch this episode right before i go to bed so yeah. But itâs a good episode. 3x12, oh the famous shitty reunion that falls under bad writing and bad chemistry, I canât tell if it was the writing or the chemistry for that one, the reunion shouldâve been nice ass top tier but yet- we get weird ass smiles, barely any emotion because I know they do write like âthe character feels happyâ some crap like that, because I remember the 2x20 script having something like that- but with c!ace nothing- just nothing. Just about how Jace wanted to take her to Paris, lol where in the fuck did that come from because heâs never mentioned that, nEVER. Than we got 3x13- lol my favorite episode (not) this episode was just a shitty filler, but the c!ace moments make me wanna sleep and gag which was all of the action I felt during one of their scenes. So in this one they are back together and trying to figure out how to get the rune off of Clary, because first she really doesnât want to have s-ex with Jace, âitâs never gonna be just me and you, itâs him too.â- which they end up forgetting. Than we get the shittiest build up to a first time scene ever, because this just comes out of nowhere really I guess if you count the previous episodes as build up, but thereâs no build up in this one, it just comes out of no where really. One minute sheâs like I wANT THE RUNE OFF before I get the d to- i mean itâs YOLO, give me that d. Like????? WHERE. But hereâs where we get a book-quote that doesnât make any damn sense but we gotta do it. âI will love you until I die, and even after thenâ some shit like that, I canât remember. Does she even say I love you back? But honestly here did that even come from, the writing makes me wanna go hide. And we also get the shittiest written/filmed worse chemistry after first time scene ever. Like itâs supposed to be romantic??? But the way its filmed and written is just so damn bad, all I did was gag my first watch and rewatch of it. Not to forget the whole itâs basically a incest three thing, because her brother decides to send her a message afterwards.And 3x14 which is just ughh, most of the c!ace ones were with her brother, and the fact is the little ice skating thing was meant to be cute, I guess but I really didnât feel shit, they were barely in the next episode. 3x16, also known as the dumb and dumber part for them, because lets summon Lilith-, but also the whole Jace is able to bring her out of becoming evil works on paper, made me have a headache because how was he able to be the one to pull her back??? Like that trope is amazing but for c!ace doesnât make sense, because they havenât shown me that they are in love that much, or care that much. 3x17-3x18, I just remember him being there, that stupid wings shit and her knocking the shit out of him when she turned dark clary. Oh but the next one- me hate. We got Jamie once again proving that sheâs a shit writer, because we got c!ace and drugs! And donât forget the whole sheâs gonna force herself on him, but don;t worry he can push her away, even though heâs about to pass out. (And never once address this) Barely of them in the next one, because we got another return of the âUntil I dieâ quote that still doesnât make sense. That I rolling my eyes again, now in 3x21/3x22 they didnât actually piss me off or make me roll my eyes, because somehow the writing was finally somewhat good for them. But they had to throw the âLoving cellsâ quote and comparing themselves to Malec, which writers you arenât trying to hide at this point you were trying to make them out to be next to the Main couple, when I was like I could like them. Their last scene is so damn good! Like punch in the gut. WHERE WAS THAT THE WHOLE TIME. Shorter story with the writing: C!ace suffered from tell us all about it but we wonât ever show you/unearned development. All because Todd and co were chickens who didnât want to change the endgame relationships and didnât write them good.Mainly in the end you can tell that like I said before because they fucked around with them, they had to give them the unearned writing, so they could match up with Malec. Because just like go through gif sets of them, most of what c!ace got is what Malec had before, except better writing and better chemistry. The chemistry is another reason- but I believe the writing is the bigger one in the end.Â
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Supergirl 3x14 Speculation Post
As some of you may have heard, episode 14 of this current season of Supergirl will feature Academy Award Nominee Laurie Metcalf as Winn's mother, Mary, who abandoned him as a child after his father committed mass murder.
We know that she's been out on location with Ms. Benoist, possibly with Mr. Brooks and Mr. Wood. So far, it doesn't seem much like the kind of reunion we've seen in 3x03 with Maggie and her dad, or the "I'm dying and I want to make amends" type a la Iris and her mother we've seen on The Flash. The episode title, 'Schott The The Heart' is a play on the Bon Jovi classic 'You Give Love A Bad Name', and that would suggest heavy Mon-El or, indeed, Imra involvement.
Ms. Metcalf is great. She's been great for DECADES. And, as the ever-so-slightly angry people at the Winn end of the fandom will attest, Mr. Jordan brings it pretty much every single week (which is why he gets the Jeremy Jordan Award For Doing So Much With So Little time and time again). Their scenes together will be great.
This post is not about their scenes.
This post is about the *other* big scene: who does Winn confide in? Who does he tell his sob story to?
Because that's the actual story. 'Childish Things' is not the story of the Winslows Schott, but the story of Winn and Kara. Whoever gets told that backstory is the focal point of Winn's arc for the episode and - let's not kid ourselves here, because he's not likely to get another one - the season.
So let's look at the options.
Kara
Kara seems like an obvious choice. Not only does it rhyme with 'Childish Things', but Kara's been... distant from him recently, from him more than others. She's said some questionable things about their friendship. This would be a chance for her to reconnect with him, and by extension, with Kara Danvers.
Kara will absolutely tell him he needs to give Mary a chance. When she says compassion for all, she means it. But Winn might not go for it. After all, why should it be his job to forgive the woman who convinced him, intentionally or not, that he would only ever be his father's son?
Lena
It's not going to be Lena. But I really want it to be.
It would be my absolute dream for this show if Winn showed up at CatCo after the initial encounter with Mary, looking to talk to Kara or James, he can only find Lena; and, in one of her moments where she believes she's good with people (she is, but it's an individual, case-by-case basis thing), she takes him into James office, expecting much ado about nothing.
And Winn dumps *everything* on her. His mother, his father, his time in foster care, everything. And she realises she's totally out of her depth.
Yes, Winn and Lena have paralleling backstories. But Lena's experience happened largely in isolation, both from other people and from the consequences of her family's actions: Winn's dad kills six people, he lost everything; Lena's brother tries to nuke California, and her immense wealth and privilege carries on as normal.
Winn, on the other hand, went into foster care. He'll have met ten, maybe twenty other kids while he was there. He'll have heard their stories, or at least parts of them. He probably doesn't even consider his story to be *that bad*, compared to others.
This would cause Lena to rethink her own history, and her attitude toward it. It would also put an end to the endless "Am I Evil?" stories, because if Winn can make it... she's got no excuse.
She should probably tell Winn that he should stand his ground against whatever Mary wants; but, more likely, will tell him he really needs the advice of someone else, because she is nowhere near qualified to handle this.
J'onn
Most of Winn's scenes this season have involved J'onn. Winn is also has a significant functioning relationship with J'onn's father, M'yrnn (or Mr J). J'onn's story this year is basically built around 'fathers and sons'.
You can see where I'm going with this.
J'onn being a father to Winn in this scene would be the final link between everyone being Winn's friends and people he works for to actually being his family. Plus, J'onn having lost his own mother, and known the joy of being reunited with his father, he is in a unique position to offer advice.
Mon-El
Mon-El has been, hard as it will be for some to believe, Winn's most consistent friend. He has always respected Winn: promises to let Winn make his superhero suit (even though he had no intention of being a hero when he did - I'll get to that later); congratulates Winn when he learns about Lyra, and asks Winn for relationship advice when he needs it; supports Winn when Lyra gets kidnapped; and, my personal favorite, his aphorism "Hope for the best, have Winn Schott plan for the worst".
He *also* knows which of Winn's buttons to press to get him to do things he doesn't want to do, or rather, says he doesn't want to do. This is a quality you want in a good wingman.
And, of course there's his *own* issues with his parents, which gives he and Winn a shared perspective. The most likely advice he would give about Mary would be that which mirrored Winn's previous advice to him; i.e, listen to her, but tempered with his new found leadership skills, he could emphasise that Winn doesn't have to give her what she wants, and he should stand up for himself.
ALEX
Dipping into speculation on the Winn/Mary side of the episode for the moment:
- Winn's supposed to be moving into some sort of leadership role this season (this may have just been the cross-over, or that might be foreshadowing for this arc)
- Mr. Brooks's IG pic shows him, Ms. Benoist and Mr. Wood in kind of a golf-cart, in the middle of nowhere. This feels a lot like a corporate 'team-building' exercise.
- The pic of Ms. Metcalf with Ms. Benoist appears to be at the same location, and her hair/costume choices seem... very Alex.
So, a theory. A decision is made: in order to beat Reign, Supergirl and Guardian and Mon-El will have to work as a team - kind of like National City's very own Trinity - with Winn as... not Overwatch, exactly, but in a similar leadership role as Iris currently has on The Flash; and so, in order to get them all working together, J'onn sends them all off with Alex to DEO boot-camp, where they'll get training from a legendary instructor.
Everyone's excited, but Winn's nervous too. He's never done anything like this, and he's got a huge responsibility here.
And it only gets worse when he finds out the instructor is Mary.
Now, to me, this would be very cool - which is why it's pretty much guaranteed not to be what happens - but the thing about it is that this moves the focus away from 'will he forgive her?' to 'will he win her approval?', while still being part of the main story arc.
So how does Alex fit into this?
Mary is Alex's possible future; a future where she can't balance her current life as a DEO agent with that of her desired life as a mother. Alex is going to see a woman who abandoned her child at a time when he needed her most - the kind of mother she has no interest in being - and she's going to hate her breathing guts.
And then she's going to tell Winn to kick Mary's ass at whatever challenge she's thrown at him, because that woman can go to hell. He doesn't need her approval. He can do this *his* way.
Those are the most likely candidates (and Lena). Here's my thoughts on the others:
JAMES
Please no. I can't sit through James giving his patented generic-but-somehow-uniquely-unhelpful advice on a subject he can't possibly understand (given that he never seems to go home to see his own mother at all). This is a bad idea.
(It's going to happen, isn't it?)
IMRA
An interesting idea, given that Imra's supposed to be a telepath, and particularly given the vague motions toward SaturnNerd in 3x07 and 3x09. She could put his muddled thoughts into order for him, help reconcile what he's saying with what he's thinking. But she'd need to develop a personality very quickly for that to work, because she sure doesn't have one now.
BRAINIAC 5
It'd be hilarious, but no.
CAT GRANT
There's no way. There is absolutely no way that this is happening.
BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE? :-D
So, there's my thoughts. Feel free to kick my ass/leave thoughtful comments.
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For the #13DaysToLibsS4
Day 8: Your Favorite Magical Creature
FINALLY I have a favorite. Just one. *hears roaring applause in the distance* I know, I know, shocking.
- NESSIE. Or, her egg. I mean, is there something more adorable?? And do we want to talk about mom!Ezekiel cooing at his egg???? No, because, like, he had me wishing to be that egg. (Donât lie, yâall wanted to be that egg). And how at the beginning heâs all like âeew, eggâ and 5 minutes later âdONât yOU daRe TOuch MY bAbYâ. #ProudMom #MomOfTheYear â„
(3x03, âand the Reunion of Evilâ)
#13daystolibss4#nessie#the loch ness monster#the librarians#the librarians and the reunion of evil#the librarians season 3#favorite magical creature#ezekiel jones#eve baird#jenkins#cassandra cillian#jacob stone#nessie's egg
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The Librarians Season 3 Commentary Guests
3x01 âAND THE RISE OF CHAOSâ
Dean Devlin (Executive Producer/Writer/Director),
Marco Schnabel (Writer/Co-Executive Producer)
3x02 âAND THE FANGS OF DEATHâ
Dean Devlin (Executive Producer),
Marc Roskin (Director)
3x03 âAND THE REUNION OF EVILâ
Noah Wyle (Executive Producer/Director/âFlynn Carsenâ),
Kate Rorick (Writer/Co-Executive Producer)
3x04 âAND THE SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECYâ
Dean Devlin (Executive Producer/Director),
Lindy Booth (âCassandra Cillianâ),
Tom MacRae (Writer)
3x05 âAND THE TEARS OF A CLOWNâ
Mark A. Altman (Writer/Co-Executive Producer),
Steve Kriozere (Writer)
3x06 âAND THE TRIAL OF THE TRIANGLEâÂ
Noah Wyle (Executive Producer/Writer/âFlynn Carsenâ)
3x07 âAND THE CURSE OF CINDYâ
Dean Devlin (Executive Producer),
Mark Franco (Co-Producer/Visual Effects Producer)
3x08 âAND THE ETERNAL QUESTIONâ
Noah Wyle (Executive Producer/Director/âFlynn Carsenâ)
Kate Rorick (Writer/Co-Executive Producer),
Nicole Ranadive (Writer)
3x09 âAND THE FATAL SEPARATIONâ
Rob Wright (Writer),
Mark A. Altman (Writer)
3x10 âAND THE WRATH OF CHAOSâ
Marc Roskin (Executive Producer/Director),
Marco Schnabel (Writer/Co-Executive Producer)
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Hi dude I like your Jassandra idea 'not get serious with anyone else and stay single forever'. I'm big fan of Jassandra ( even death don't stop me for shipping them ) but no one knows what the future will bring. Well, of course, I fingers crossed for jassandra canon.
jakexcassie replied to your post âim kinda worried about season 4 of the librarians. i still havenât...â
honestly 3x08 ruined the librarians big time for me (and how badly they handled cass's tumor and magic debate) like last year i was practically dying for s3 and now, you bet im excited, but not in the way i used to be..it sucks. i just want jassandra to go back to their s2 relationship at least, all flirty and couple-y, they are a pretty big reason i love the show and not only bc of the ship but as separate characters they seemed to be OOC towards each other last season
exactlyyyy.Like, the librarians is a stress-free light-hearted FUN show. So Iâm going to look for cute moments and not expect too much on the shipping front. weâve got mom and dad aka fleve and thatâs fine. then weâve got hints of jassandra, which tbh, i almost missed in season 1...Â
and honestly if they want to just keep building up that friendship and the vague underlying possible romantic tension, thatâs fine. I am happy to âpay attentionâ to jassandra and read between the lines based on the canon we get. If the show wants to hint at it and let us dream of it, but ultimately chooses to steer away from any serious LIT canon-shipping on the show (because itâs not a drama ship-centric show) thatâs fine. iâm okay with not having cold, hard canon confirmation. Like 3x03... &the Reunion of Evil was amazing. AH-MAZING.
but for goodness sake, donât try to taint or steal or disregard those breadcrumbs we DO get. Itâs one thing if jake or cassie get hit on by another person and think âoh what a nice person, maybe I might like themâ thatâs borderline fine. (that could even be used to spark jealousy, see &the City of Light).Â
but when cassie was.... i canât even type it... in &the Eternal Question.... chasing after jenkins.... was.. so weird... not only as a jassandra shipper and not only because it was within the librarian group. but especially because it just tainted all their previous interactions to the point that I donât even want to rewatch the show now because the cute father/daughter--or even grandfather/granddaughter (think of Richard and Rory on Gilmore Girls)--that bondthat they had is messed up for me completely and i kinda hope they never share a scene together again. EWWWW.Â
and yeah, the removal of her tumour was handled poorly. and unless they want to come up with an explanation for how surgery became an option suddenly, they disregarded canon which seemed to indicate fairly clearly that it was inoperable (especially since Cassie had a freaking day picked out for her own death...like thatâs really freaking dark for a tumor thatâs operable).
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Do you think we were supposed to be getting MOC!Dean vibes from how excited Dean was to have the Colt back? I mean, he got pissy when the First Blade was taken from him to, though he ultimately ended up giving that to Cas, but y'know... willingly. Idk where I'm going with this, just something I thought of...
Yeah, idk if it was meant to be exactly like Dean and the First Blade but he was definitely being a bit obsessive about it :P Once you sleep with something under your pillow you cross a line where if this was the sitcom version of the show the next day heâd walk into the library and Sam and Cas would have hung an intervention banner :PÂ
I mean I donât think we need to go over Deanâs detailed history with the Colt, either in actions or emotionally how much was connected to it and the obvious security a kill-anything weapon has to your well-being (a rare feeling for him although 12x18 proved that could be preeetty useless when not applied properly anyway)⊠but he was also personifying the gun and he does this with the car and I guess in a way itâs stuff he puts a bit of himself into.Â
(I watched 9x10 recently enough to still be laughing at Crowley calling the car Deanâs phallus on wheels - I donât think thatâs an accurate representation of what Baby is to Dean, and 11x04 showing her as a protective womb and somehow almost cosmically attuned to him as a friend is way more accurate, if we donât go with her being a representation of his soul. But hands down she is feminine and not just because he calls her so, but symbolically. But the Colt. Definitely a phallic representation for Dean.)
But his weirdness about the gun got him in trouble in 12x18, that the bad guys got the better of him, and, well, the dude in 5x09 who complained why do they not put their weapons on a bungee? Highlights the problem of relying on a kill-anything weapon (and pfft now I think about it like this - WAS that foreshadowing that they gain and lose the Colt in one episode immediately after that because Dean dropped it after Lucifer threw him across the field? :P)
I think the problem is this is such a coveted item, itâs its own curse. And I just spent a moment trying to think of what other thing in pop culture I could compare this to aside from the obvious of the One Ring and realised I was thinking of season 3 and the Colt. So. Uh. I feel like thereâs a very obvious comparison to some item that was only got through stealing and was its own curse but my brain is ALSO now just saying, hey, rabbitâs foot in 3x03, and at this point I give up. My brain is a mess of Supernatural and I canât remember anything else any more.Â
Anyway, itâs not something spelled out in the text like that, but right before the Colt comes back into play, like bungee guy and his warning about losing weapons, we have this:
SAM Itâs a hell of a luck charm.
BOBBY Itâs not a luck charm, itâs a curse! She made it to kill people, Sam!See, you touch it, you own it. You own it, sure, you get a run of good luck to beat the Devil.But, you lose it, that luck turns. It turns so bad that youâre dead inside a week.
SAM Well, so I wonât lose it, Bobby.
BOBBY EVERYBODY LOSES IT!
(Lol to âbeat the devilâ I hate this show sometimes)
Obviously Colt didnât make it AS a curse - he made it to kill demons and lock a Devilâs gate shut⊠But from the outset it has the problem that because it can LOCK the gate it can also OPEN it. So the very earliest we see the Colt is two demons coming to get it from Samuel Colt; itâs a beacon of potential and Colt may have used it for good, but thereâs an immediate reaction of interest to use it for bad, because itâs power, and power, of course, corrupts. (Like the ring of power, or the First Blade comparison, as two items specifically about the corrupting influence of dark bad power)Â
But still. Once itâs thereâŠ
SAMUEL COLT (nods) Not bad. (Samuel opens his jacket so Sam can see the colt in his holster) You donât want it. Itâs a curse. Believe me.
SAM Great. Then let me take it off your hands.
Sam actually is given the Colt (and that scene now to me feels like 9x11 riffed off it a LOT - Dean taking the Mark from Cain feels almost identical in mood, only Sam taking on this âcurseâ was a lot more benign, unless of course it somehow twists time and fate up to make the Colt so much of their problem in the future). Anyway, he takes it to Dean seemingly with permission and no hard feelings from Samuel Colt, and so itâs sort of got a sense of ownership to them, but not exactly the strongest, especially as it may have just been on loan.
Best I can guess, based on the Elkins connection, after they disappeared back to the future, Elkins the bartender came out and saw the ash and had no interest in it, but did see the Colt and took it, then when Samuel Colt came to town it was like no i never saw no gun, and Colt assumes Sam took it (and hey he did want to pass on that curse :P) and thatâs it. Elkins passes it down through his family, Daniel Elkins sort of canât believe what heâs got, and maybe for all we know was a hunter because having the Colt invites trouble and his family had a history of it and had to learn the hard way.
Dean steals the Colt from him in 4x03, and fails to use it while discovering how their family is well and truly cursed with Maryâs deal.Â
John wanted it from Daniel Elkins and never got it from him while he was alive because I bet Elkins did not want to share that curse and had some fear about what it would do to John - the Elkins family having it is sort of like Bilbo having it all the time in the shire - he messes around doing party tricks with his magic ring, but the plot doesnât come for HIM.Â
Vampires eventually steal it, John steals it from them, he gives it again to Dean, but retains a loose ownership of being the one whoâd be mad about wasting bullets, even if Sam and Dean wave it around and shoot it a few times, John reclaims it and gives it to Azazel. Azazel gives it to Jake. Sam steals it from Jake, Bela steals it from Sam, gives it to Crowley who gives it to Dean, and then immediately steals it back from him and gives it to Ramiel. Ramiel is killed for it by Sam (unintentionally) and Mary steals it, for Mick who gives it to Sam, who gives it to Dean, who Cas steals it from, who loses it to Dagon, who melts it and the poor ghost of Samuel Colt, haunting miles of railroad in the middle of Wyoming, suddenly has his spirit freed and goes up to Heaven at long last like, finally :PÂ
Pretty much everyone who either steals it or has it stolen from them is killed for it or because of this struggle - losing it is a safer way to not die, so Dean dropping it at the end of 2 time travel escapades, or after attempting to kill Lucifer, sort of means the gun falls off the radar, in a kind of threw it into the deepest ocean way, where it stops being on the board. But the curse is clear and the power struggle for it.Â
I think this sort of desirability of it as an item IS the curse, and Dean is best placed of anyone in the world to know about it because heâs been not just connected to the story all along, but also with the time travel things, especially 4x03, intimately connected with its  history in a really weird way. He was the one who shot the phoenix, after all, even if Sam got the Colt in the first place. Dean being the last âtrueâ owner of the Colt is a nice way to end it, in that Dean is the centre of the universe way. But also that Sam brought it to him and Mary stole it for them - the family history, the family curse⊠(I still think Samuel Coltâs journal was in the Campbell library because there was a family connection)
Also itâs great Cas stole it and shot it and had a part in that - also mirroring Eileenâs attempt to shoot Dagon, which makes me feel like sheâs part of the family and should marry Sam >.>
ANYWAY all that said, I think thatâs the curse/pull of the Colt, the sort of âmy preciousâ feeling that would come from it. Itâs an object soaked in blood and in the supernatural world that seems to leave a mark. I think the gun was actually almost bonded to their story or to Dean, and he would have the Gollum-like intensity over it because itâs been his for hundreds of years all through its existence, in the âiâm my own grandfatherâ way time travel messes with things. And I think that it wasnât EVIL per say but the âcurseâ had a truth to it that Samuel Colt couldnât even begin to understand what heâd created, and what it would become. And all the people who died for it - all that power and all that swapping hands? If ownership puts a bit of something into a thing like Dean personifying Baby until she looks out for him in turn like 11x04 showed, then think of the gun going through all those hands, and all the evil or desperation they poured into it while coveting its power.
I donât think it necessarily drove Dean mad in the way if we had a longer arc with it it MIGHT have Gollumâd him like the First Blade did but for the 3 episodes he owned it, it definitely seemed like a danger and I think this is why he was susceptible to it. I think 12x18 in a way might be a great thing to rewatch for Dean and the Colt - how it influenced him in that time, that he was sloppy and filled with bravado⊠I said in my notes for that episode that he was happily waving his phallic gun around that represented a sort of power and therefore virility he doesnât normally feel - a GOOD feeling about himself, self-confidence and self-assuredness, and so Dean hooking up felt a natural part of exercising that power. But it made him reckless and vulnerable and so he ended up being the damsel tied to the chair and thrown in a meat locker. Sam, who had a tearful reunion with the Colt and saw it in a completely opposite light to Dean, as a dangerous, cursed tool, as Samuel Colt said and Sam knows full well, had a clarity about it.
I think if Sam kept the Colt Cas probably wouldnât have stolen it, and the Colt would still be un-melted, because a totally different story would have been told.
But it got to Dean. It probably wouldnât have CHANGED him long term, but the immediate personality effect was all over 12x18 and it suddenly filled a huge part of the emotional drama of 12x19 where Cas stealing it became a Cas or Colt situation and they were weirdly paralleled closely together (as well as that weird sexual side to Dean owning the Colt that 12x18 explored, being used with the Colt being in his bed, and Cas stealing it from thereâŠ) - if it had been some other McGuffin and not The Colt with all its history I think Dean also would have been a lot more chill in 12x19, and not be betrayed, and not waver even for a second to seem like he was messed up enough to be weighing the worth of the Colt against Cas in the first place.Â
I donât think if the Colt hadnât been melted it would have had a long term affect on their relationship even if Dean would have been upset about Cas taking itâŠ
I am still wondering if theyâll develop that Cas nearly died FOR Mary to steal it and if Dean would ever clearly be made aware that the BMoL stole it from Ramiel and thatâs why they were there and what Mary was doing.
I want more on the cursed family history and whether they mention the Colt or not in that, it just existing for a moment in this season has dragged up more than enough of thatâŠ
Okay I have way too many thoughts about this ask I went way off point with.Â
But yeah, I donât think the Colt ACTUALLY would have been like the Mark of Cain and First Blade to Dean, but metaphorically thatâs the emotional impact it had, with the family history and HIS history with it being the Mark, and the Colt of course being the Blade.
#Asks#12x12#12x14#12x17#12x18#12x19#Chekhov's kill everything gun#my stuff#Dean analysis#I still can't believe the Colt was in his bed and Cas stole it from there#when I was watching I snorted about Cas moodily looking at Dean's bed when he left the room#and it turned out he really was coveting Dean's phallic representation in Dean's own bed#and Dean's betrayal was that Cas emotionally used him and took that from him#not that he just stole the item#but the absolute literal this is about actual sex in my own bed intimacy that was portrayed there#metaphorically this is why Dean was upset#Cas had a one night stand and bolted#this is what the Colt stood for in Dean's bed#to be completely clear about that
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Day 2- Favorite Ezekiel moment
Again I find myself torn between scenes/eps. Anytime Ezekiel shows how much he cares, Iâm a goner.
So of course, âAnd the Point of Salvationâ (2x08) is a big one. Ezekiel was determined to get them out, no matter how much he hurt in the process. Iâm honestly getting feels writing about it right now. It was so crucial for my view of him when I first watched that episode because no longer did he seem like he was trying to keep himself from caring about his family. It also highlighted his skills I feel, his resourcefulness in getting help from everyone in spots he struggled with.
Consequently, the scene in âAnd the Curse of Cindyâ (3x07) where he has a heart to heart with Cindy hit me hard too. Anytime we get some of his backstory and him being a genuinely good person will make me make weird noises and smile till my face hurts. Itâs definitely evident now that he knows heâs got a family who cares immensely, and he can let himself start to show that care back.
I suppose in the realm of âcaring,â the whole Stumpy ordeal was pretty great in âAnd the Cost of Educationâ (2x04), and in âAnd the Reunion of Evilâ (3x03) where Ezekiel becomes a surrogate mom for the baby Loch Ness Monster. Really want Ezekiel to have a pet in season 4, or at least him visiting his little Nessie anyway.
In the end, I think Iâve gotta go with âAnd the Point of Salvationâ since it was a pretty crucial episode for Ezekiel. And Iâm on the boat that he does remember, even if itâs nightmares, because after that he does start acting differently.
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No weather patterns could create this. Which means this storm is magical.
#The Librarians#The Librarians TNT#Jacob Stone#Cassandra Cillian#Jassandra#3x03 And the Reunion of Evil#fcedits
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I'm wondering lately how you can call the relationship of Jacob and Cassandra at this point. I know that their relationship has evolved since their first meeting but I'm not sure what exactly the kind of relationship they have now.
Hey there!
We like to think that Jassandra is very much a âfriends to loversâ kind of ship, more specifically âfriends to best friends to loversâ. And right now we think theyâre in the âbest friendsâ stage of that, or maybe somewhere in-between the âbest friendsâ and âloversâ stage.
This season seems to have established them very much as partners. We see them working on a case together more often than they usually do, they had a whole episode together, and the relationship seems to be specifically indicated by Cassandraâs line of âWeâre a well oiled machine!â. So while itâs not in a romantic way yet, much like Eve and Flynn, they seem to have been established as a team within the team.
As for the evolution of their relationship, we think thatâs very much indicated by their conversations at the end of 1X03(And the Horns of Dilemma) and 3X03(And the Reunion of Evil). Their conversation at the end of Horns about his past and trust issues allowed them to become friends. We think that the conversation at the end of Reunion about magic allowed them to once again understand each other better, solidified them as best friends, and will maybe allow them to become lovers.
Whatever kind of relationship they have, we just love these two and canât wait to see what future episodes have in store for them, whatever that may be!
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thoughts on OQ in 6x14
First of all Lana is sooo talented. She basically played four characters this week. If not five. (past EQ, present Regina, present EQ, post-united-hearts-EQ and to be strict post-united-heart-Regina). And most of that was a solo show.
And also before we dive into the Meta, how sweet just for Sean and Lana to act these scenes together. They both stated that they enjoyed plaing Regina and Robin as a cuple so far, and to have these intense scene with basically different characters must have been super nice to reunite forces.
Now for the characters.
For Regina, Iâm just so glad her split arc ended in a reunion with herself. Very different than I expected, but still so sweet. She needed that opposite character to actually learn and accept her past and love herself and let herself go. Itâs so great to see her personal story wrap up, that she learns all these things and put them to action. Also how personal and emotional must it have been for Lana to play that. She stated it through the years, she love Regina all along, and finally Regina embraces herself - literally and figurativly.
Robin is fun! I could have smacked the writers for getting our ship-hopes up and then dropping us dead down with this âevil Robinâ the past few episodes, but as most ouat villians (or, âscoundralsâ), Robin of Locksley was sassy and just funny to watch. âExcuse me, I sleep on hay - on dirt, but there is a seperation... doesnât matter.â Also his attempts to flirt with EQ ^^
After all, these distorted versions still were soulmates. Especially in the light of Tinkâs and Reginaâs conversations in 3x03, (which I all rewatched before diving into this weeks episode) I think itâs a sweet and perfect way to out these two: were they shouldâve (well, couldâve) begun.
And, after all, it hit me really hard. I always admired about this relationship that A&E put together these folklore characters of The Robin Hood and The Evil Queen. They put their own spin to their stories, but still the two lived up to their names. And yet there was this connection, this hope they saw in each other. And in the modern costumes, it was easy to forget where these two lovers came from. But their final image desplays it so wonderfully. Robin Hood sitting across from the Evil Ruler. The Outlaw sitting across from the Queen. *sobs*
(And that is so awesome. They found a way for the whole person Regina to both be with Robin and to move on without him. I think it is awesome, other may think otherwise.) (Also, letâs all not think out the problems it actually creates for EQ to be in that realm. How is this a fresh start, where her face is feared and royal guards as well as Rumple as well as Henry are out hunting her?! But again letâs not think about that and instead rejoice in the awesomeness that in a way, OQ is endgame.)
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Friendly reminder that Her Royal Majesty, Felicia Day - Queen of the Geeks will be guest-starring in the third episode of The Librarians this season! And her episode will also feature Sean Astin!
This makes me very, very, very happy.
#Felicia Day#The Librarians (TNT)#The Librarians#The Librarians S3#3x03 And the Reunion of Evil#randomnessoffiction#le messages
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