#3x03 And the Reunion of Evil

[dayscrazed]

Roswell, New Mexico Timeline (through season 4)

1x01- reunion 1x02- 1 week later Liz visits Rosa’s grave 1x03- 2 days (?) the morning after Malex have sex again 1x04- morning after the drive-in/blackout 1x05- morning after since Noah’s looking for Iz 1x06- the same night Max tells Liz the story 1x07- 1 week later police question Liz about the fire 1x08- 1 day or 2 after Iz admitted on psych 1x09- 6 weeks later Michael & Liz work on an antidote 1x10- next day, Alex talks to Michael, Iz is out of the pod 1x11- 1 day or 2 after, Iz shares her memory of Rosa 1x12- 3 days after Noah’s been in a pod 1x13- morning after Noah escapes

Whole season = around 10 weeks (Start of June through the 2nd week of August)

2x01- 2 weeks from Max dying 2x02- 2 weeks Mimi’s been missing 2x03- 2 weeks Michael has been at Pony 2x04- 2 weeks Isobel’s been going to cafe/ Michael been in “weeks-long hibernation” 2x05- next day, but then 3 weeks Max recovers and Iz attacks 2x06- 3 days they’ve been giving Max antidote 2x07- 1 week Rosa’s been training 2x08- 1 day or 2 ‘cause Max follows up on Jenna 2x09- that night they talk to Sanders, Max is arrested 2x10- 1 or 2 days later, they road trip to the reservation 2x11- 1 week since Alex never made it to the AF base 2x12- 1 day later, Michael building the bomb 2x13- that night, “tonight at Crashcon,” then a few (3?) days later

Season 2= 15 weeks; Through late November

3x01- 1 year after s2 finale (episode is 2 days) 3x02- the next day they put Jones in cage 3x03- next day, Lockhart machine on day 46 in previous episode and then goes off 3x04- next day Jones escapes 3x05- next day after Max heals Kyle and causes Liz to collapse 3x06- next day after Kyle went missing 3x07- next day because Jones healed Max 3 days ago 3x08- next day or 2, Michael says water tower was “the other day” (2 or 3 days ago) 3x09- 3 days later, Max has been asleep for 2 days/ Alex has exposed to machine for 2 days (episode is 2 days) 3x10- 2 days later, Michael says they fixed it a few days ago 3x11- day after, urgency to get save them from Jones 3x12- the same day, episode leads to night/the next day 3x13- same day, nine hours later because that’s the time limit of the serum they defeat Jones. Then, episode one day later

(Whole season = 18 days or 2 weeks and 4 days) A year later, through the end of November into early December

Season 4 = 6 months later

4x01- June 14th Hatch Day 4x02- The next day, after St Elmo’s Fire 4x03- A day later at night- Michael meets Bonnie. Ep goes through another day 4x04- That night and then the next day after Mimi dies 4x05- Next day, Tezca mindscapes Max 4x06- Next day, Isobel and Kyle morning after & Michael still sick 4x07- Next day, Max powerless and Liz is mad 4x08- Next day, Maria, Liz and Rosa panic about Alex 4x09- Next day, Liz in mist coma 4x10- Next day, evil!Liz jumps into science 4x11- Next day, Michael searches for Alex & Liz back at Crashdown, moved out 4x12- Next day, Liz detoxing and Malex attempt at wedding/ fuel to leave 4x13- Same day, daytime when they fight Clyde; but then another day (or two, maybe more?) until the wedding and then the day after the wedding, Max leaves

Whole season = about 16 days (2 weeks, 2 days)

Relationship Timelines:

- Michael sleeps with Alex 6 weeks, 4 days before sleeping with Maria. Alex talks with Maria and in less than a week, she kisses Michael. 

- Michael ghosts Maria for 2 weeks. Then, 2 weeks later, Michael parks at Pony and stays for 2 weeks, then she pushes him away. After 5 weeks, 3 days, she calls him: cornfield incident. They officially date for 3 weeks, 2 days

- Liz and Max kiss 7 weeks and 4 days after Max confesses his love. They sleep together a week later. 

-After Max is resurrected, he and Liz sleep together and then they date officially for 3 weeks 2 days. 

- About a week after Forrest leaves, Michael kisses Alex. Malex officially are together for the last 9 days (week and 2 days) of the season.

- Liz admits she still loves Max 10 days after she came back to Roswell. They finally kiss a week after that and officially get back together.

- About a week after Isobel meets Anatsa, she asks her out for drinks. Isobel and Anatsa start seeing each other for the last 5 days of the season.

- Alex gets trapped in Theo’s dimension for 11 days. Michael learns he’s missing after a week and goes after him on day 9.  

- Michael and Alex move in together after being together 6 months, and then get married roughly 2 weeks after they move in.

- Max and Liz have officially been dating for 6 months (plus the 3 some weeks they were together before) and have been living together for 4 months when Max tries to propose.

- Liz tries to propose roughly 2 weeks after Max tries to propose.

- Isobel kisses Kyle a week after she breaks up with Anatsa, 6 days after she learns about his feelings.

[flynnscarnation]

insp. | The Librarians Shipathon 2017 | Week 10 - Jassekiel |

[according-to-the-laura]

StackedNatural Day 28: 1x06, 3x03, 14x02

StackedNatural Masterpost: [x]

October 18, 2021

1x06: Skin

Written by: John Shiban

Directed by: Robert Duncan McNeill

Original air date: October 18, 2005

Plot Synopsis:

A serial killer shape-shifter adopts the likeness of Sam's college buddy to commit a gruesome murder. When the brothers investigate, the being "borrows" Dean's form to continue the killing spree.

Features:

Sam’s college friends, the first shapeshifter, manhunt for Dean, Dean’s first official “death”.

My Thoughts:

This is SUCH a classic episode. The opener is really well filmed with a great reveal of Dean’s face, the special effects are actually good (and gross) all the way through, the aesthetics are off the charts. It’s a great example of the first few seasons at their best.

We’re only six episodes in to the entire series and they’ve already written THEE Dean thesis episode. Literally look at the notable lines down there. I love that it’s delivered by Dean’s face but Jackles plays it just enough different that you can tell it’s not Dean. I’m into it.

Also, @weedsinavacantlot, did I clock your alley again? Is this the same Romeo + Juliet neon cross reunion alley from season 13?

Notable/Kickass Lines:

“He’s sure got issues with you. You got to go to college. He had to stay home. I mean, I had to stay home. With Dad. You don’t think I had dreams of my own? But Dad needed me. Where the hell were you? [...] See, deep down, I’m just jealous. You got friends. You could have a life. Me? I know I’m a freak. And sooner or later, everybody’s gonna leave me.”

“Evolution is about mutation, right? So, maybe this thing was born human but was different. Hideous and hated. Until he learned to become someone else.”

“ It’s funny. I kind of understand him. He’s all alone—close to no one. All he wants is for someone to love him. He’s like me.”

Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 9.2

IMdB rating: 8.4

3x03: Bad Day at Black Rock

Written by: Ben Edlund

Directed by: Robert Singer

Original air date: October 18, 2007

Plot Synopsis:

The Winchesters are called regarding a robbery of their father's storage unit, and track down the robbers to find the item stolen is a cursed rabbit's foot, which provides great luck until lost, and once lost the previous owner dies within a week. Sam picks up the foot and has great fortune, until it is pickpocketed away by the mercenary Bela. Dean must then get it back before Sam's bad luck gets him killed. To complicate the whole situation, Gordon, from his prison home, has convinced two other hunters that Sam is pure evil and must be killed.

Features:

Gordon is in prison, cursed rabbit’s foot, Bela Talbot, Sam gets shot and loses a shoe, the hunt for Sam is on.

My Thoughts:

This arc with Gordon leading other hunters to chase Sam down and kill him is what the Cole arc in season 10 wishes it was. I forget Cole exists the moment he’s no longer on screen. Gordon is a cool villain.

Love the juxtaposition of Sam’s soccer trophy and Dean’s first shotgun. Clearly only one of these boys got even the semblance of a childhood.

Every fight scene in this episode is so silly and fun to watch. They do such a great Chekov’s gun fake out with the beer bottle that the guy eventually trips over.

I am SO obsessed with Bela. When she said “a great thief”, I whispered out loud “please marry me”. She is so cool and I wish she’d lasted like 10 more seasons. Maybe we all would have believed in Dean’s heterosexuality more if she stuck around.

Notable/Kickass Lines:

“She's lying, you gotta know that, don't you? She knows what your weakness is – it's me.”

“Oh, wow! It's my first sawed-off. I made it myself. Sixth grade.”

“I lost my shoe.”

“Being a Hunter is so much more noble? A bunch of obsessed, revenge-driven sociopaths trying to save a world that can't be saved?”

“We're all going to Hell, Dean. Might as well enjoy the ride.”

“We're on deck for the endgame here, right?”

“I’m batman!”

Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 9.6

IMdB Rating: 9.3

14x02: Gods and Monsters

Written by: Buckleming

Directed by: Richard Speight Jr.

Original air date: October 18, 2018

Plot Synopsis:

Sam finds a clue to Dean's whereabouts, so he, Mary and Bobby set out to investigate. Castiel imparts some sage advice on Jack, who, still desperate to belong, seeks out a familial connection.

Features:

Nick’s revenge, Michael’s monster-enhancing experiments, Jack meets his grandparents, Michael frees Dean.

My Thoughts:

Before the episode even started Megan and I were ranting about how they established that the blade they used on Lucifer didn’t kill the vessel and they didn’t ever think to use it on Michael!Dean. And they established it when Dean was already possessed by Michael! Truly terrible writing.

Actually, for a Buckleming episode this isn’t too bad at all. Mark P. is definitely a better Lucifer than he is a Nick, but he’s not unwatchable. The first scene between Cas and Nick is well done, and there are some beautifully acted, emotional scenes between Cas and Jack. Plus, that scene between Jack and his grandparents? I almost teared up!

@meg3point0 said that the reason Jack is willing to kill Dean to get Michael is that he finally met people that he loves who aren’t hunters and can’t protect themselves from him.

Notable/Kickass Lines:

“That was no man. That’s not man. That’s a monster. It’s a monster, and then Lucifer found me and made me a monster, too.”

“I had something else that was extremely helpful. I had myself. Just the basic me, as, uh...as Dean would say, without all the bells and whistles. You know, Sam and Dean, they weren’t born with their expertise. They’ve been at it since they were children. Failing, winning, developing over the years. Patience, persistence - those are skills too. The past, where you come from, that’s important, but it is not as important as the future and where you’re going.”

“You know, in all my thousands of years, what happened to Jimmy Novak and his family are my greatest regret.”

Laura’s (completely subjective) Episode Rating: 7.5

IMdB Rating: 8.0

In Conclusion: I always forget how goddamn good early season episodes are. Super excited to be able to chart out how I feel about the series as a whole at the end of this experiment!

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[immortals-malec]

ok talk about why clac.e didn't work pls -deamaia

Oof rant here we go. let’s hope it all makes sense because i ramble a lot when i rant. For me it’s the damn writing for them is why c!ace didn’t work, (the chemistry is another one but the writing drives me nuts) So in s1, c!ace was developed as a somewhat high school/your basic white YA novel couple and they stay like this for the rest of the series, they never grew out of it. Until like their last damn scene in 3x22Most of their writing always fell flat in s1, the moments were either down right creepy or just look like they wanted to bang the entire time, they were supposed to have like romantic stepping stones for their relationship and yet, there was none, nothing felt romantic (this can fall on the no chemistry thing as well but I felt like it was the writing as well). But there was some moments you could be like okay cute, but you can realize everytime they had that ‘oh cute’ moment damn Ruelle was playing in the background so we can just thank her for that. Like in 1x11 they had like this moment about what happened in the TWI universe, they’re talking about how this is real and shit I’m like you are trying to tell me that what they said in the AU world is what they felt? Sh!Jace was there for like two seconds and got stabbed! And sh!Clary legit faded out of existence for awhile there, how did she know how that Clary felt??? I was so confused it was supposed to be a romantic moment and yet it confuses the fuck out of me.  S2 things just get worse because of siblings plot shit and the fact is they still try to move them along as a couple but just ended up making them have a brotherly-sisterly bond, and the fact is they probably could’ve ended the plot sooner but choose not to and show us Clary moving on with Simon and Jace sleeping with people to forget he’s in love with his sister. Tbh they forgot about c!ace until 2x14 and they suddenly remembered that they were endgame and rushed to get them back together, which some of their moments during that time was yeah sorta okay I still didn’t feel anything romantic going on for them, that fucking glow-y scene in 2x19 is scarred into my brain, that’s like supposed to be romantic-bonding for 2.0 of their relationship is just what the fuck. Without the special effects I would’ve hated to be a cast member watching them hold onto each other while a fan blows air, I would’ve walked off or just cried from how bad it was. And than we have the oh so famous c!ace scenes in 2x20, I still honestly can’t remember feeling for them here, like yeah he’s dead but hes gonna come back in like two seconds. And that damn “i love you” scene that should’ve been cut, one never addressed it, didn’t make any sense (was just there because someone was a little upset that Malec was gonna get a whole I can’t live without you scene) and two because I feel like because is might have been the road to that damn stupid ass shit Jamie gives them and therefore the other writers who actually have brains had to.So now s3 which is the start of everybody is tired of the unearned crap c!ace is given. Because here is when they start trying to build up c!ace (and s!zzy too) as this epic in love, meant to be couple, which is a lot of my eyerolls in 3a come from. You really don’t see it in the first episode but boy in the ones after it you do. The whole talk in 3x02? Like what the fuck where did that come from because I sure as fuck don’t feel like you have given those emotions off before and I don’t remember you looking like this in the s1/s2 writing where was that and also this is basically Magnus’s fucking lines from 2x07! I don’t remember what the fuck happens in 3x03 other than Izzy wearing that dress and the Malec/Maryse dinner.  But 3x04 is just a fucking mess and it’s by our favorite writer Jamie!! Who wrote those incesty lines in 2x04! But she’s here writing lines out for c!ace that don’t make any fucking sense and it’s just for c!ace fans. like the whole “My love for clary is stronger than your magic” bullshit, just what the hell, that whole episode is basically telling me that they love each other, but they aren’t showing me because that’s how storytelling works, you gotta do both, Malec has it, it’s not that hard. And also I totally almost forgot that half of s3 was spent with Jace forcing Clary not to tell anyone about the wish, ooo couple goals, not. Than 3x05 happens, tbh I forgot most, other than the Malec drama with the stupid timeline which effects the whole damn show and the angel getting his heart punched out by Lilith and Jace getting spelled.But yeah that stupid ass two month timeline that effects the whole show because Alec and Magnus really began their relationship in s1, they just didn’t make it official to the whole world in s2. It really hurts c!ace and their epic love story they try to give us. Because how did they fall in love to the point where Lilith had to get Magnus to spell Jace, because he’s so in love with her that it’s stronger than the Queen of Hell’s magic???? Unless they’re trying to tell me that they either fell in love in s1 or during the time they thought they were siblings.Which is really fucking bad, so when did they fall in love?! They never showed me in the episodes’ writing. Anyways moving on, c!ace gets some more toxic moments and that another “I love you” scene which just had me on the ground because why Jesus. Do they do this to me. And than we have Izzy talking about how much Jace has changed since they met Clary which has me like this????? ‘Cause hm, well ever since Jace met Clary, he’s treated his siblings like shit and became even more of an asshole, and that’s stayed the same over the past three seasons? Where is the change? Here you see that they’re trying to make them seem like Alec and Magnus, who’ve actually changed since they met each other, c!ace? That’s nowhere in their writing. Then we have the whole 3x08 thing where he’s killing clary in his mind, which i have no words for that since i only watched it once. 3x10, good episode, no c!ace moments other than that fake ass cry and ‘cLAEEERY’ yell. And now 3b is where we get to see all of the book!c-lace moments that either don’t make any sense or are just plain toxic. 3x11 I basically skip all of the Jace-c!ace related moments mainly because i can’t stand his face and i watch this episode right before i go to bed so yeah. But it’s a good episode.  3x12, oh the famous shitty reunion that falls under bad writing and bad chemistry, I can’t tell if it was the writing or the chemistry for that one, the reunion should’ve been nice ass top tier but yet- we get weird ass smiles, barely any emotion because I know they do write like ‘the character feels happy’ some crap like that, because I remember the 2x20 script having something like that- but with c!ace nothing- just nothing. Just about how Jace wanted to take her to Paris, lol where in the fuck did that come from because he’s never mentioned that, nEVER. Than we got 3x13- lol my favorite episode (not) this episode was just a shitty filler, but the c!ace moments make me wanna sleep and gag which was all of the action I felt during one of their scenes.  So in this one they are back together and trying to figure out how to get the rune off of Clary, because first she really doesn’t want to have s-ex with Jace, ‘it’s never gonna be just me and you, it’s him too.’-  which they end up forgetting. Than we get the shittiest build up to a first time scene ever, because this just comes out of nowhere really I guess if you count the previous episodes as build up, but there’s no  build up in this one, it just comes out of no where really. One minute she’s like I wANT THE RUNE OFF  before I get the d to- i mean it’s YOLO, give me that d. Like????? WHERE. But here’s where we get a book-quote that doesn’t make any damn sense but we gotta do it. “I will love you until I die, and even after then” some shit like that, I can’t remember. Does she even say I love you back? But honestly here did that even come from, the writing makes me wanna go hide. And we also get the shittiest written/filmed worse chemistry after first time scene ever. Like it’s supposed to be romantic??? But the way its filmed and written is just so damn bad, all I did was gag my first watch and rewatch of it. Not to forget the whole it’s basically a incest three thing, because her brother decides to send her a message afterwards.And 3x14 which is just ughh, most of the c!ace ones were with her brother, and the fact is the little ice skating thing was meant to be cute, I guess but I really didn’t feel shit, they were barely in the next episode. 3x16, also known as the dumb and dumber part for them, because lets summon Lilith-, but also the whole Jace is able to bring her out of becoming evil works on paper, made me have a headache because how was he able to be the one to pull her back??? Like that trope is amazing but for c!ace doesn’t make sense, because they haven’t shown me that they are in love that much, or care that much. 3x17-3x18, I just remember him being there, that stupid wings shit and her knocking the shit out of him when she turned dark clary. Oh but the next one- me hate. We got Jamie once again proving that she’s a shit writer, because we got c!ace and drugs! And don’t forget the whole she’s gonna force herself on him, but don;t worry he can push her away, even though he’s about to pass out. (And never once address this) Barely of them in the next one, because we got another return of the “Until I die” quote that still doesn’t make sense. That I rolling my eyes again, now in 3x21/3x22 they didn’t actually piss me off or make me roll my eyes, because somehow the writing was finally somewhat good for them. But they had to throw the “Loving cells” quote and comparing themselves to Malec, which writers you aren’t trying to hide at this point you were trying to make them out to be next to the Main couple, when I was like I could like them. Their last scene is so damn good! Like punch in the gut. WHERE WAS THAT THE WHOLE TIME. Shorter story with the writing: C!ace suffered from tell us all about it but we won’t ever show you/unearned development. All because Todd and co were chickens who didn’t want to change the endgame relationships and didn’t write them good.Mainly in the end you can tell that like I said before because they fucked around with them, they had to give them the unearned writing, so they could match up with Malec. Because just like go through gif sets of them, most of what c!ace got is what Malec had before, except better writing and better chemistry. The chemistry is another reason-  but I believe the writing is the bigger one in the end. 

[ninjagoat]

Supergirl 3x14 Speculation Post

As some of you may have heard, episode 14 of this current season of Supergirl will feature Academy Award Nominee Laurie Metcalf as Winn's mother, Mary, who abandoned him as a child after his father committed mass murder.

We know that she's been out on location with Ms. Benoist, possibly with Mr. Brooks and Mr. Wood. So far, it doesn't seem much like the kind of reunion we've seen in 3x03 with Maggie and her dad, or the "I'm dying and I want to make amends" type a la Iris and her mother we've seen on The Flash. The episode title, 'Schott The The Heart' is a play on the Bon Jovi classic 'You Give Love A Bad Name', and that would suggest heavy Mon-El or, indeed, Imra involvement.

Ms. Metcalf is great. She's been great for DECADES. And, as the ever-so-slightly angry people at the Winn end of the fandom will attest, Mr. Jordan brings it pretty much every single week (which is why he gets the Jeremy Jordan Award For Doing So Much With So Little time and time again). Their scenes together will be great.

This post is not about their scenes.

This post is about the *other* big scene: who does Winn confide in? Who does he tell his sob story to?

Because that's the actual story. 'Childish Things' is not the story of the Winslows Schott, but the story of Winn and Kara. Whoever gets told that backstory is the focal point of Winn's arc for the episode and - let's not kid ourselves here, because he's not likely to get another one - the season.

So let's look at the options.

Kara

Kara seems like an obvious choice. Not only does it rhyme with 'Childish Things', but Kara's been... distant from him recently, from him more than others. She's said some questionable things about their friendship. This would be a chance for her to reconnect with him, and by extension, with Kara Danvers.

Kara will absolutely tell him he needs to give Mary a chance. When she says compassion for all, she means it. But Winn might not go for it. After all, why should it be his job to forgive the woman who convinced him, intentionally or not, that he would only ever be his father's son?

Lena

It's not going to be Lena. But I really want it to be.

It would be my absolute dream for this show if Winn showed up at CatCo after the initial encounter with Mary, looking to talk to Kara or James, he can only find Lena; and, in one of her moments where she believes she's good with people (she is, but it's an individual, case-by-case basis thing), she takes him into James office, expecting much ado about nothing.

And Winn dumps *everything* on her. His mother, his father, his time in foster care, everything. And she realises she's totally out of her depth.

Yes, Winn and Lena have paralleling backstories. But Lena's experience happened largely in isolation, both from other people and from the consequences of her family's actions: Winn's dad kills six people, he lost everything; Lena's brother tries to nuke California, and her immense wealth and privilege carries on as normal.

Winn, on the other hand, went into foster care. He'll have met ten, maybe twenty other kids while he was there. He'll have heard their stories, or at least parts of them. He probably doesn't even consider his story to be *that bad*, compared to others.

This would cause Lena to rethink her own history, and her attitude toward it. It would also put an end to the endless "Am I Evil?" stories, because if Winn can make it... she's got no excuse.

She should probably tell Winn that he should stand his ground against whatever Mary wants; but, more likely, will tell him he really needs the advice of someone else, because she is nowhere near qualified to handle this.

J'onn

Most of Winn's scenes this season have involved J'onn. Winn is also has a significant functioning relationship with J'onn's father, M'yrnn (or Mr J). J'onn's story this year is basically built around 'fathers and sons'.

You can see where I'm going with this.

J'onn being a father to Winn in this scene would be the final link between everyone being Winn's friends and people he works for to actually being his family. Plus, J'onn having lost his own mother, and known the joy of being reunited with his father, he is in a unique position to offer advice.

Mon-El

Mon-El has been, hard as it will be for some to believe, Winn's most consistent friend. He has always respected Winn: promises to let Winn make his superhero suit (even though he had no intention of being a hero when he did - I'll get to that later); congratulates Winn when he learns about Lyra, and asks Winn for relationship advice when he needs it; supports Winn when Lyra gets kidnapped; and, my personal favorite, his aphorism "Hope for the best, have Winn Schott plan for the worst".

He *also* knows which of Winn's buttons to press to get him to do things he doesn't want to do, or rather, says he doesn't want to do. This is a quality you want in a good wingman.

And, of course there's his *own* issues with his parents, which gives he and Winn a shared perspective. The most likely advice he would give about Mary would be that which mirrored Winn's previous advice to him; i.e, listen to her, but tempered with his new found leadership skills, he could emphasise that Winn doesn't have to give her what she wants, and he should stand up for himself.

ALEX

Dipping into speculation on the Winn/Mary side of the episode for the moment:

- Winn's supposed to be moving into some sort of leadership role this season (this may have just been the cross-over, or that might be foreshadowing for this arc)

- Mr. Brooks's IG pic shows him, Ms. Benoist and Mr. Wood in kind of a golf-cart, in the middle of nowhere. This feels a lot like a corporate 'team-building' exercise.

- The pic of Ms. Metcalf with Ms. Benoist appears to be at the same location, and her hair/costume choices seem... very Alex.

So, a theory. A decision is made: in order to beat Reign, Supergirl and Guardian and Mon-El will have to work as a team - kind of like National City's very own Trinity - with Winn as... not Overwatch, exactly, but in a similar leadership role as Iris currently has on The Flash; and so, in order to get them all working together, J'onn sends them all off with Alex to DEO boot-camp, where they'll get training from a legendary instructor.

Everyone's excited, but Winn's nervous too. He's never done anything like this, and he's got a huge responsibility here.

And it only gets worse when he finds out the instructor is Mary.

Now, to me, this would be very cool - which is why it's pretty much guaranteed not to be what happens - but the thing about it is that this moves the focus away from 'will he forgive her?' to 'will he win her approval?', while still being part of the main story arc.

So how does Alex fit into this?

Mary is Alex's possible future; a future where she can't balance her current life as a DEO agent with that of her desired life as a mother. Alex is going to see a woman who abandoned her child at a time when he needed her most - the kind of mother she has no interest in being - and she's going to hate her breathing guts.

And then she's going to tell Winn to kick Mary's ass at whatever challenge she's thrown at him, because that woman can go to hell. He doesn't need her approval. He can do this *his* way.

Those are the most likely candidates (and Lena). Here's my thoughts on the others:

JAMES

Please no. I can't sit through James giving his patented generic-but-somehow-uniquely-unhelpful advice on a subject he can't possibly understand (given that he never seems to go home to see his own mother at all). This is a bad idea.

(It's going to happen, isn't it?)

IMRA

An interesting idea, given that Imra's supposed to be a telepath, and particularly given the vague motions toward SaturnNerd in 3x07 and 3x09. She could put his muddled thoughts into order for him, help reconcile what he's saying with what he's thinking. But she'd need to develop a personality very quickly for that to work, because she sure doesn't have one now.

BRAINIAC 5

It'd be hilarious, but no.

CAT GRANT

There's no way. There is absolutely no way that this is happening.

BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE? :-D

So, there's my thoughts. Feel free to kick my ass/leave thoughtful comments.

[omgbrainstorming]

For the  #13DaysToLibsS4

Day 8: Your Favorite Magical Creature

FINALLY I have a favorite. Just one. *hears roaring applause in the distance* I know, I know, shocking.

- NESSIE. Or, her egg. I mean, is there something more adorable?? And do we want to talk about mom!Ezekiel cooing at his egg???? No, because, like, he had me wishing to be that egg. (Don’t lie, y’all wanted to be that egg). And how at the beginning he’s all like “eew, egg” and 5 minutes later “dON’t yOU daRe TOuch MY bAbY”. #ProudMom #MomOfTheYear  ♥

(3x03, “and the Reunion of Evil”)

[fyeahthelibrarians]

The Librarians Season 3 Commentary Guests

3x01 “AND THE RISE OF CHAOS”

Dean Devlin (Executive Producer/Writer/Director),

Marco Schnabel (Writer/Co-Executive Producer)

3x02 “AND THE FANGS OF DEATH”

Dean Devlin (Executive Producer),

Marc Roskin (Director)

3x03 “AND THE REUNION OF EVIL”

Noah Wyle (Executive Producer/Director/‘Flynn Carsen’),

Kate Rorick (Writer/Co-Executive Producer)

3x04 “AND THE SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY”

Dean Devlin (Executive Producer/Director),

Lindy Booth (’Cassandra Cillian’),

Tom MacRae (Writer)

3x05 “AND THE TEARS OF A CLOWN”

Mark A. Altman (Writer/Co-Executive Producer),

Steve Kriozere (Writer)

3x06 “AND THE TRIAL OF THE TRIANGLE” 

Noah Wyle (Executive Producer/Writer/‘Flynn Carsen’)

3x07 “AND THE CURSE OF CINDY”

Dean Devlin (Executive Producer),

Mark Franco (Co-Producer/Visual Effects Producer)

3x08 “AND THE ETERNAL QUESTION”

Noah Wyle (Executive Producer/Director/‘Flynn Carsen’)

Kate Rorick (Writer/Co-Executive Producer),

Nicole Ranadive (Writer)

3x09 “AND THE FATAL SEPARATION”

Rob Wright (Writer),

Mark A. Altman (Writer)

3x10 “AND THE WRATH OF CHAOS”

Marc Roskin (Executive Producer/Director),

Marco Schnabel (Writer/Co-Executive Producer)

[ohifonlyx33]

Hi dude I like your Jassandra idea 'not get serious with anyone else and stay single forever'. I'm big fan of Jassandra ( even death don't stop me for shipping them ) but no one knows what the future will bring. Well, of course, I fingers crossed for jassandra canon.

jakexcassie replied to your post “im kinda worried about season 4 of the librarians. i still haven’t...”

honestly 3x08 ruined the librarians big time for me (and how badly they handled cass's tumor and magic debate) like last year i was practically dying for s3 and now, you bet im excited, but not in the way i used to be..it sucks. i just want jassandra to go back to their s2 relationship at least, all flirty and couple-y, they are a pretty big reason i love the show and not only bc of the ship but as separate characters they seemed to be OOC towards each other last season

exactlyyyy.Like, the librarians is a stress-free light-hearted FUN show. So I’m going to look for cute moments and not expect too much on the shipping front. we’ve got mom and dad aka fleve and that’s fine. then we’ve got hints of jassandra, which tbh, i almost missed in season 1... 

and honestly if they want to just keep building up that friendship and the vague underlying possible romantic tension, that’s fine. I am happy to “pay attention” to jassandra and read between the lines based on the canon we get. If the show wants to hint at it and let us dream of it, but ultimately chooses to steer away from any serious LIT canon-shipping on the show (because it’s not a drama ship-centric show) that’s fine. i’m okay with not having cold, hard canon confirmation. Like 3x03... &the Reunion of Evil was amazing. AH-MAZING.

but for goodness sake, don’t try to taint or steal or disregard those breadcrumbs we DO get. It’s one thing if jake or cassie get hit on by another person and think “oh what a nice person, maybe I might like them” that’s borderline fine. (that could even be used to spark jealousy, see &the City of Light). 

but when cassie was.... i can’t even type it... in &the Eternal Question.... chasing after jenkins.... was.. so weird... not only as a jassandra shipper and not only because it was within the librarian group. but especially because it just tainted all their previous interactions to the point that I don’t even want to rewatch the show now because the cute father/daughter--or even grandfather/granddaughter (think of Richard and Rory on Gilmore Girls)--that bondthat they had is messed up for me completely and i kinda hope they never share a scene together again. EWWWW. 

and yeah, the removal of her tumour was handled poorly. and unless they want to come up with an explanation for how surgery became an option suddenly, they disregarded canon which seemed to indicate fairly clearly that it was inoperable (especially since Cassie had a freaking day picked out for her own death...like that’s really freaking dark for a tumor that’s operable).

[elizabethrobertajones]

Do you think we were supposed to be getting MOC!Dean vibes from how excited Dean was to have the Colt back? I mean, he got pissy when the First Blade was taken from him to, though he ultimately ended up giving that to Cas, but y'know... willingly. Idk where I'm going with this, just something I thought of...

Yeah, idk if it was meant to be exactly like Dean and the First Blade but he was definitely being a bit obsessive about it :P Once you sleep with something under your pillow you cross a line where if this was the sitcom version of the show the next day he’d walk into the library and Sam and Cas would have hung an intervention banner :P 

I mean I don’t think we need to go over Dean’s detailed history with the Colt, either in actions or emotionally how much was connected to it and the obvious security a kill-anything weapon has to your well-being (a rare feeling for him although 12x18 proved that could be preeetty useless when not applied properly anyway)… but he was also personifying the gun and he does this with the car and I guess in a way it’s stuff he puts a bit of himself into. 

(I watched 9x10 recently enough to still be laughing at Crowley calling the car Dean’s phallus on wheels - I don’t think that’s an accurate representation of what Baby is to Dean, and 11x04 showing her as a protective womb and somehow almost cosmically attuned to him as a friend is way more accurate, if we don’t go with her being a representation of his soul. But hands down she is feminine and not just because he calls her so, but symbolically. But the Colt. Definitely a phallic representation for Dean.)

But his weirdness about the gun got him in trouble in 12x18, that the bad guys got the better of him, and, well, the dude in 5x09 who complained why do they not put their weapons on a bungee? Highlights the problem of relying on a kill-anything weapon (and pfft now I think about it like this - WAS that foreshadowing that they gain and lose the Colt in one episode immediately after that because Dean dropped it after Lucifer threw him across the field? :P)

I think the problem is this is such a coveted item, it’s its own curse. And I just spent a moment trying to think of what other thing in pop culture I could compare this to aside from the obvious of the One Ring and realised I was thinking of season 3 and the Colt. So. Uh. I feel like there’s a very obvious comparison to some item that was only got through stealing and was its own curse but my brain is ALSO now just saying, hey, rabbit’s foot in 3x03, and at this point I give up. My brain is a mess of Supernatural and I can’t remember anything else any more. 

Anyway, it’s not something spelled out in the text like that, but right before the Colt comes back into play, like bungee guy and his warning about losing weapons, we have this:

SAM It’s a hell of a luck charm.

BOBBY It’s not a luck charm, it’s a curse! She made it to kill people, Sam!See, you touch it, you own it. You own it, sure, you get a run of good luck to beat the Devil.But, you lose it, that luck turns. It turns so bad that you’re dead inside a week.

SAM Well, so I won’t lose it, Bobby.

BOBBY EVERYBODY LOSES IT!

(Lol to “beat the devil” I hate this show sometimes)

Obviously Colt didn’t make it AS a curse - he made it to kill demons and lock a Devil’s gate shut… But from the outset it has the problem that because it can LOCK the gate it can also OPEN it. So the very earliest we see the Colt is two demons coming to get it from Samuel Colt; it’s a beacon of potential and Colt may have used it for good, but there’s an immediate reaction of interest to use it for bad, because it’s power, and power, of course, corrupts. (Like the ring of power, or the First Blade comparison, as two items specifically about the corrupting influence of dark bad power) 

But still. Once it’s there…

SAMUEL COLT (nods) Not bad. (Samuel opens his jacket so Sam can see the colt in his holster) You don’t want it. It’s a curse. Believe me.

SAM Great. Then let me take it off your hands.

Sam actually is given the Colt (and that scene now to me feels like 9x11 riffed off it a LOT - Dean taking the Mark from Cain feels almost identical in mood, only Sam taking on this “curse” was a lot more benign, unless of course it somehow twists time and fate up to make the Colt so much of their problem in the future). Anyway, he takes it to Dean seemingly with permission and no hard feelings from Samuel Colt, and so it’s sort of got a sense of ownership to them, but not exactly the strongest, especially as it may have just been on loan.

Best I can guess, based on the Elkins connection, after they disappeared back to the future, Elkins the bartender came out and saw the ash and had no interest in it, but did see the Colt and took it, then when Samuel Colt came to town it was like no i never saw no gun, and Colt assumes Sam took it (and hey he did want to pass on that curse :P) and that’s it. Elkins passes it down through his family, Daniel Elkins sort of can’t believe what he’s got, and maybe for all we know was a hunter because having the Colt invites trouble and his family had a history of it and had to learn the hard way.

Dean steals the Colt from him in 4x03, and fails to use it while discovering how their family is well and truly cursed with Mary’s deal. 

John wanted it from Daniel Elkins and never got it from him while he was alive because I bet Elkins did not want to share that curse and had some fear about what it would do to John - the Elkins family having it is sort of like Bilbo having it all the time in the shire - he messes around doing party tricks with his magic ring, but the plot doesn’t come for HIM. 

Vampires eventually steal it, John steals it from them, he gives it again to Dean, but retains a loose ownership of being the one who’d be mad about wasting bullets, even if Sam and Dean wave it around and shoot it a few times, John reclaims it and gives it to Azazel. Azazel gives it to Jake. Sam steals it from Jake, Bela steals it from Sam, gives it to Crowley who gives it to Dean, and then immediately steals it back from him and gives it to Ramiel. Ramiel is killed for it by Sam (unintentionally) and Mary steals it, for Mick who gives it to Sam, who gives it to Dean, who Cas steals it from, who loses it to Dagon, who melts it and the poor ghost of Samuel Colt, haunting miles of railroad in the middle of Wyoming, suddenly has his spirit freed and goes up to Heaven at long last like, finally :P 

Pretty much everyone who either steals it or has it stolen from them is killed for it or because of this struggle - losing it is a safer way to not die, so Dean dropping it at the end of 2 time travel escapades, or after attempting to kill Lucifer, sort of means the gun falls off the radar, in a kind of threw it into the deepest ocean way, where it stops being on the board. But the curse is clear and the power struggle for it. 

I think this sort of desirability of it as an item IS the curse, and Dean is best placed of anyone in the world to know about it because he’s been not just connected to the story all along, but also with the time travel things, especially 4x03, intimately connected with its  history in a really weird way. He was the one who shot the phoenix, after all, even if Sam got the Colt in the first place. Dean being the last “true” owner of the Colt is a nice way to end it, in that Dean is the centre of the universe way. But also that Sam brought it to him and Mary stole it for them - the family history, the family curse… (I still think Samuel Colt’s journal was in the Campbell library because there was a family connection)

Also it’s great Cas stole it and shot it and had a part in that - also mirroring Eileen’s attempt to shoot Dagon, which makes me feel like she’s part of the family and should marry Sam >.>

ANYWAY all that said, I think that’s the curse/pull of the Colt, the sort of “my precious” feeling that would come from it. It’s an object soaked in blood and in the supernatural world that seems to leave a mark. I think the gun was actually almost bonded to their story or to Dean, and he would have the Gollum-like intensity over it because it’s been his for hundreds of years all through its existence, in the “i’m my own grandfather” way time travel messes with things. And I think that it wasn’t EVIL per say but the “curse” had a truth to it that Samuel Colt couldn’t even begin to understand what he’d created, and what it would become. And all the people who died for it - all that power and all that swapping hands? If ownership puts a bit of something into a thing like Dean personifying Baby until she looks out for him in turn like 11x04 showed, then think of the gun going through all those hands, and all the evil or desperation they poured into it while coveting its power.

I don’t think it necessarily drove Dean mad in the way if we had a longer arc with it it MIGHT have Gollum’d him like the First Blade did but for the 3 episodes he owned it, it definitely seemed like a danger and I think this is why he was susceptible to it. I think 12x18 in a way might be a great thing to rewatch for Dean and the Colt - how it influenced him in that time, that he was sloppy and filled with bravado… I said in my notes for that episode that he was happily waving his phallic gun around that represented a sort of power and therefore virility he doesn’t normally feel - a GOOD feeling about himself, self-confidence and self-assuredness, and so Dean hooking up felt a natural part of exercising that power. But it made him reckless and vulnerable and so he ended up being the damsel tied to the chair and thrown in a meat locker. Sam, who had a tearful reunion with the Colt and saw it in a completely opposite light to Dean, as a dangerous, cursed tool, as Samuel Colt said and Sam knows full well, had a clarity about it.

I think if Sam kept the Colt Cas probably wouldn’t have stolen it, and the Colt would still be un-melted, because a totally different story would have been told.

But it got to Dean. It probably wouldn’t have CHANGED him long term, but the immediate personality effect was all over 12x18 and it suddenly filled a huge part of the emotional drama of 12x19 where Cas stealing it became a Cas or Colt situation and they were weirdly paralleled closely together (as well as that weird sexual side to Dean owning the Colt that 12x18 explored, being used with the Colt being in his bed, and Cas stealing it from there…) - if it had been some other McGuffin and not The Colt with all its history I think Dean also would have been a lot more chill in 12x19, and not be betrayed, and not waver even for a second to seem like he was messed up enough to be weighing the worth of the Colt against Cas in the first place. 

I don’t think if the Colt hadn’t been melted it would have had a long term affect on their relationship even if Dean would have been upset about Cas taking it…

I am still wondering if they’ll develop that Cas nearly died FOR Mary to steal it and if Dean would ever clearly be made aware that the BMoL stole it from Ramiel and that’s why they were there and what Mary was doing.

I want more on the cursed family history and whether they mention the Colt or not in that, it just existing for a moment in this season has dragged up more than enough of that…

Okay I have way too many thoughts about this ask I went way off point with. 

But yeah, I don’t think the Colt ACTUALLY would have been like the Mark of Cain and First Blade to Dean, but metaphorically that’s the emotional impact it had, with the family history and HIS history with it being the Mark, and the Colt of course being the Blade.

[adapted-batteries]

Day 2- Favorite Ezekiel moment

Again I find myself torn between scenes/eps. Anytime Ezekiel shows how much he cares, I’m a goner.

So of course, “And the Point of Salvation” (2x08) is a big one. Ezekiel was determined to get them out, no matter how much he hurt in the process. I’m honestly getting feels writing about it right now. It was so crucial for my view of him when I first watched that episode because no longer did he seem like he was trying to keep himself from caring about his family. It also highlighted his skills I feel, his resourcefulness in getting help from everyone in spots he struggled with.

Consequently, the scene in “And the Curse of Cindy” (3x07) where he has a heart to heart with Cindy hit me hard too. Anytime we get some of his backstory and him being a genuinely good person will make me make weird noises and smile till my face hurts. It’s definitely evident now that he knows he’s got a family who cares immensely, and he can let himself start to show that care back.

I suppose in the realm of “caring,” the whole Stumpy ordeal was pretty great in “And the Cost of Education” (2x04), and in “And the Reunion of Evil” (3x03) where Ezekiel becomes a surrogate mom for the baby Loch Ness Monster. Really want Ezekiel to have a pet in season 4, or at least him visiting his little Nessie anyway.

In the end, I think I’ve gotta go with “And the Point of Salvation” since it was a pretty crucial episode for Ezekiel. And I’m on the boat that he does remember, even if it’s nightmares, because after that he does start acting differently.

[jassandratrash]

I'm wondering lately how you can call the relationship of Jacob and Cassandra at this point. I know that their relationship has evolved since their first meeting but I'm not sure what exactly the kind of relationship they have now.

Hey there!

We like to think that Jassandra is very much a “friends to lovers” kind of ship, more specifically “friends to best friends to lovers”. And right now we think they’re in the “best friends” stage of that, or maybe somewhere in-between the “best friends” and “lovers” stage.

This season seems to have established them very much as partners. We see them working on a case together more often than they usually do, they had a whole episode together, and the relationship seems to be specifically indicated by Cassandra’s line of “We’re a well oiled machine!”. So while it’s not in a romantic way yet, much like Eve and Flynn, they seem to have been established as a team within the team.

As for the evolution of their relationship, we think that’s very much indicated by their conversations at the end of 1X03(And the Horns of Dilemma) and 3X03(And the Reunion of Evil). Their conversation at the end of Horns about his past and trust issues allowed them to become friends. We think that the conversation at the end of Reunion about magic allowed them to once again understand each other better, solidified them as best friends, and will maybe allow them to become lovers.

Whatever kind of relationship they have, we just love these two and can’t wait to see what future episodes have in store for them, whatever that may be!

[flynnscarnation]

No weather patterns could create this. Which means this storm is magical.

[beardedbarba]

Friendly reminder that Her Royal Majesty, Felicia Day - Queen of the Geeks will be guest-starring in the third episode of The Librarians this season! And her episode will also feature Sean Astin!

This makes me very, very, very happy.