Bronya/Seele. I just get so opinionated about things, it's ridiculous, but consider this a fair warning for some salt relating to what I consider to be an absolutely infuriating ship to have to deal with. It should be prefaced that I'm not against the ship in theory, even if I find the concept of 'one returns to the light, while the other returns to the dark', a bit boring, but I digress. My issue with this blasted dynamic, is how Seele's character is reigned in, time and time again as to make it happen in any capacity.
How is Hoyo able to write such great dynamics way more often than not (yes, of course including ones between female characters, whether done through a lot or little screen-time; ie. Clorinde/Navia, and Beidou/Ningguang), but then looked at Bronya and Seele in HSR and not only absolutely miss the mark, but also actively undo Seele's character as to replicate... HI3's famous F/F ship? And then, what has this caused within the fandom? That anyone who doesn't ship it, is ignoring an F/F ship and therefore should be condemned for social political and representation reasons, while honestly, it simply comes down to the fact that it's not well written from from at least one perspective.
I of course can't touch on Bronya's side of things, but Seele's complete 180 following the revelation that Bronya, too, was an orphan, is absolutely ill-fitting. Would this possibly soften Seele's argumentative nature (that then also was nurtured endlessly throughout the years) a little bit? Sure, but considering how intensely ingrained it is into her character for understandable reasons; it would go excruciatingly slowly. Seele doesn't and wouldn't blush at a thank you, she's likely received enough of them considering her work within Wildfire, and honestly, Bronya isn't exactly someone that Seele would hold in immense admiration so soon (without active evidence)— which if she did at the moment it happens, could explain being lightly taken aback, but alas. Seele and Bronya represent two opposite sides, and as the end of the Trailblazing mission shows, they still argue, and Seele still opposes her. Before yet again, her character is reigned in as to fit into this shipping narrative, instead of having her fiercely defend (and stand up for) what she's very obviously felt strongest about throughout her life, which is the primary reason as to why she's back up in the Overworld to begin with. Let me just present a bit of Seele's second character story:
Before leaving that evening, they sat on a bench in the Executive Plaza as Seele stared at the restaurant opposite them.
"Was the Overworld fun, Seele? Wanna come back again later?"
"Can I ask you something?"
"...What's up? Ask away."
"Those Overworlders are only eating half their meal, and threw the rest away."
"..."
"Do they know that people down below haven't got enough food to eat?"
"..."
Oleg saw how a look of gloom passed over her tender face.
"Let's go back, Oleg. I don't want to come back here again."
And then let me remind you of a cutscene at the end of Belobog's Trailblazing mission, and don't mind me ending the transcript where I'm positive that Seele would have left if it hadn't been for the Astral Express, no matter what Bronya would've said. 'Empty words', after all:
Seele: ...Priorities? What do you mean? Are you saying rebuilding the Underworld isn't one of your "priorities"?
Bronya: Of course not! I'm just saying we have limited assets, and we need new parameters.
Seele: Assets... parameters... You sure love your fancy words.
Seele: Ugh, forget it. Leave it to me. I'll go down myself...
Bronya: ...Come on, Seele! I won't leave you to—
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the "also sick" comment isn't like "btw I'm SICK, how dare you not know" it's me saying I'm sick like how 2/3 of my roommates are
but like I'm so;;;; it feels so rich that L is like wtf do you want from me about me not replying for 45 minutes when I had to beg his gf over hours and hours of texts every so often to not force me to sit in unwiped shit after my surgery bc she had openly told me she just didn't rly feel like setting up the attachable bidet after telling me for weeks she would, and I never ever got a reply from her or L ever acknowledging that they were wide awake hanging out and laughing while I was like stuck in bed barely able to move begging for follow through on a commitment they made in advance and i eventually had to spend over $100 to hire someone to come out the next day and do it for me and I had to hold my shit for hours lmfao
like L is sooooo great at couching things in flawless tumblr wellness speak but only to talk about how valid they are for not showing up for you and how fucked up it is that you MIGHT ever have a moment where you can't be 100% there w them. like idk what to tell you I've been laying in bed with a sore throat and cough and fever passing out and waking up to roll over in buckets of sweat like the rest of the house. I do genuinely get being annoyed by a lack of response but it's also right back to this whole thing about Always assuming I'm mad at them which is legit one of the only things that actually makes me mad fjdkddhk like bro I do not THINK about you when you're not acting like I'm a bomb about to blow (also, as an aside -- we all take turns buying TP and it's usually me who does it like it's not out of pocket for me to say hey you are the One person who is out of the house already rn, can you get this on your way bc None of the bathrooms have back up rolls and one is totally out and I had to text our sickest roommate telling her to use the bidet and drip dry like.... "am I the first person you asked" yes bc you are the person who makes the most sense dumbfuck. I'm not being "overly needy" toward you or whatever jfc)
they literally told me at one point that the reason they're so scared of me is that my face is "triggering" for them when I'm angry or not feeling good and puts them "back in a really bad place" they have seen my face angry literally 3 times and each time it was on my way back to my room to decompress and each time I said nothing to them other than that I was in a bad mood and I was going to go to my room. I didn't yell either I just said it normal. like I genuinely feel gaslit here like I'm this horrifying monster of a man when it's like dude sometimes people are mad I don't know what YOU want from ME!! I do all my venting here where they can't ever see it even tho we've blocked each other, I censor their name like anyone even knows who they are, I isolate to chill out and it's literally been less than a handful of times like should I fling myself from the roof??????? would that fix it???
I literally know it's bc I'm a man too. none of this was like this until my facial hair came in more and it got crazy worse after I got top surgery and they're so so vocal about how much they despise men and think men should all fuck off and die and there's only a handful of acceptable men that they've personally vetted. despite them pretty clearly having a trans woman fetish bc they only date or look at porn of trans women and they do the whole step on me mommy thing about it even tho their gf has complained like. lmfao you're just a baby te//rf even tho you ID as trans masc yourself. like that's all this even is. I'm a big (5'3") scary (spent the whole weekend w my coworkers asking if I was 12) man who's obviously going to snap and kill you all bc sometimes I *checks writing on hand* get frustrated and go lay down about it
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"It's okay to have to learn how to live on your own, you know. No one ever has all the answers." He's not scared of Fenrir, despite what she is: he could be, if it weren't for the fact that he had bonded himself to an echo of something that had in fact, by all research and all speaking with her himself, been a much more frightening thing in life (it is hard to fear anything knowing what you love could outclass most). Sarunan's ears show a state similar to relaxation, tilted slightly to the side, angled forward, the expression on his face inscrutable. One gloved hand carefully extends, placing itself between the girl's ears -- not rubbing her head or fluffing her hair, just calmly placing his hand there as reassurance. "It doesn't matter how old you are or how long you've been alive. The people on this ship aren't exactly the type who abandon anyone. Trust me."
And what's meant as reassurance has the opposite effect; bored, judging eyes flashing with anger once he touches her, and fangs laid bare.
"Get your hands off me!!"
However, she doesn't bite. A low growl lingering as she snaps at him and pulls away, it's okay to have to learn how to live alone and they won't abandon anyone, she knew all of that already. Walder had pressed on despite being near death, all for the friend that she herself couldn't save. Io yelled when she had been letting out her frustrations on Rosetta, and despite their earlier fight Lyria had asked if she could put a bow in her hair when Loki had been speaking with them at that annoying island. She knew all of that already.
And still he's yapping about love and peace and acceptance as if he expects her to break down and sob. Who was going to abandon her? Why should she live on her own? Poor little primal beast who was thrown away by her creators and denied by the world. You need help, don't you? You need love, don't you? Everyone on this damn ship acted like him, just shut up.
"Trust you?" she had considered being sarcastic, but that was before he had decided to encroach on her personal space. "All you've done is blabber about yourself, don't try and act like you know me. Why the hell should I care about any of that, you're no better than those researchers who created us for their own selfish gains. Take your ego and go feel good about yourself somewhere else", despite her words, the one who ends up storming off is Fenrir herself. "Gah! I can't stand you people!"
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does trunks want kids? bc that was a dad worthy joke right there
The answer is complicated.
He's not completely opposed to the idea of either adopting kids or having them the biological way, he's just really shaken at the idea of it.
He's had so much taken away from him, his mentor, his mother, his entire world- It's left him terribly uncertain at the idea that things will remain safe. That the things he loves will remain in this world.
Hell, even if we're talking Z-era stuff, he'd be more open to the idea, but still unsure about it.
He doesn't mention that he's terrified of losing any more in his life, as he's felt despair at the repeated failure to keep those he treasured alive and well.
He feels that if he ever had a kid and lost them, he'd snap mentally. He knows just wouldn't be able to handle the toll.
Unless his partner can give him that sense of ease and security that everything's gonna be okay, the idea of it all is going to be met with immense hesitation.
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