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Oh that RBB/SBB post you reblogged makes me so sad π I know itβs been a long time since the start of 1D but I really hope Louis is okay. Itβs almost like Louisβ campiness/flamboyance has been masked over time while Harry has fully embraced that side of himself (which I LOVE!!) but Iβm still just sad about Louis. I wish we could have seen him blossom like Harry in that way.
Of course this is all just speculation. Maybe Louisβ current outward public appearance/behaviour is exactly who he is now and/or how he wants to be perceived in the world. Itβs probably not just black and white.
Oh, anon, I'm extending a warm hug to you π₯Ίπ«π and huge same; it massively tore at my queer little heartstrings to read that post.
It was so incredibly insightful and well-written and these parts were so painful:
"We canβt know why consciously camp Louis shined so briefly [...]. But I believe (I think itβs a reasonably common belief) that somewhere between auditioning on X-Factor with a girlfriend and the UK media blitz of autumn 2011, Louis Tomlinson became someone who was quite comfortable with being seen as gay. Iβd go further and say that part of this was embracing the conscious, coded, queerness of camp British culture. [...]
But he only got the briefest window to share that part of himself. It was one of the first things that got taken away, [...] Β Thereβs a huge sad irony there β that this code, that was developed specifically so that gay men could be visible in a time when they were completely marginalised, was taken away from a young gay man, because it was too gay, in a supposedly more liberal time. [...] The bears' elaborate queer codes are tucked away from the stage. Because their owners cannot (yet) be visible in the way that the people they put in frames have been."
I'm not nearly as eloquent as the author of that post, @dogsliampaynedoesntinstagram, but I will try. -- To what you wrote, dear anon, I want to say you are so valid!
I think the process and inner workings over the last 14 years were very complex and we only have crumbs of puzzle pieces here and there, so that leaves room for a lot of speculation. (which can be maddening sometimes, but also good to ponder different perspectives).
The second they were put into 1D together, they were supposed to make many people a fuckton of money. I cannot even begin to fathom the immense pressure they were under; during and also post-1D. at least they had each other as support, as well as the other 3 boys and a few close friends and family, yet ultimately it was always them who were going to be the most impacted. At least they could go through it together.
(side note: can you imagine the gigantic strain all of the closeting and stunts must've been on their relationship? and they still came out on top! that's a huge testament to their communication and commitment to each other. π₯Ήππ)
I always felt it remarkable how differently the angles of closeting were approached, certainly because of Harry's and Louis' different marketed images, but perhaps also because they are different characters who come from different backgrounds and maybe also because of their relationship dynamic and slight age difference (which is always a bit more remarkable during the teenage years they were in at the beginning).
Ultimately I can only guess why exactly it was Louis who was the one to always verbally respond or make a statement about Larry; why it was only Louis' Twitter account who was used for the denials; why it was Louis who never touched a rainbow flag during a 1D show, not even after Harry had started in 2015 -- all this while Lou did and said a LOT of stuff that clearly showed who he really is, who he's in love and in a steady longtime relationship with; all this while RBB and SBB spoke to us so clearly it sometimes still feels like a fever dream.
I can only speculate, but -- when it comes to their closeting, I think the sad reality is that Harry and Louis were never truly set up to benefit from deals that were struck. While I can imagine it was even sold to them as a positive thing at first; a white lie, a protection of their privacy perhaps, etc, they were both so young when they entered into those probable agreements (even while I hope they both had some kind of legal representation!), it was still ultimately their own choice to say yes or no, but in an industry where you are still a near-nobody and you get the offer of a lifetime plus there's the career fate of three other boys on your shoulders as well, that "choice" becomes an illusion. the power-imbalances were just too great.
As written in the OP's post, in 2011 "Louis [...] became someone who was quite comfortable with being seen as gay. Iβd go further and say that part of this was embracing the conscious, coded, queerness of camp British culture.", but then it "[...] was one of the first things that got taken away.", because it was still considered "too gay".
And I think if someone hasn't lived it, they can't imagine the toll it takes on an impressionable teenage mind when they are told again and again that their sexuality and relationship are a liability, a danger, something better kept under wraps, something that the public will not accept or endorse; something that might or will ultimately ruin things for them and the other boys. Maybe those things were ever said out loud or bluntly, maybe they were expressed in more cunning ways, but those things are simply everything a forced closet implies.
What was done to them was manipulation of the most sinister kind, of this I am sure. I remember Harry saying often in recent years how scared he was back then to "make a mistake" and mess things up for the other boys. (I think we can all imagine what he meant by that) And how he recounted crying in disbelief and relief when he finally signed his new contract after they announced the hiatus. Him covering up his "Things I can't" tattoo with an eagle (which is a symbol for freedom) in Dec 2015 (1 month before the start of the hiatus) feels pretty significant to me, too.
Still, it takes years to unlearn and re-learn certain conditioning and I want to make it a point to say the closet is never the fault of the closeted person. I can only speculate, but it seems to me that parts of that conditioning and a closeting mindset still live inside of the choices that are being made for their respective careers. Holivia, Elk and babygate-still-not-ended are three of the most glaring examples. Without insight, it's hard for me to gauge reasoning, though, so I will leave these topics at this.
Also Louis apparently got the short end of the stick post-1D, with him still(?) being blacklisted by the powers that be (*clenches fist* fucking SC). But I cannot say much more to that, because I haven't caught up enough on it, yet. To me personally it always felt like SC tried to keep an iron fist especially on Louis and I can only hypothesise why. Maybe Louis was always most defiant to SC verbally, behind closed doors? Maybe it's got to do with SC's own suspected closeting? Maybe Louis had to make some sort of deal with him years ago? I shudder to even think about why SC is still "allowed" to insert himself into the boys' business so much (as evidently last seen at Liam's funeral). He's such a powerful asshole.
But back to Harry and Louis -- they do (to this day) present themselves differently to the general public in regards to their sexuality and relationship -and I share your feelings, anon, of wishing that things would've gone differently for Louis. π₯Ί I think this is a very valid wish to have; for the people you admire to be as free and happy and seen as possible. For them to gain their full freedom and happiness on their own terms. For them to get to be their most authentic selves (*Louis voice* "Flamboyant!"). And eventually, maybe, for them to get to come out together (because if they do, I personally don't think they'd want to do it separately), if ever / whenever they want to and ideally, with a level of publicity they chose. Their potential coming out is a very multi-facetted discussion that I'm too sleepy to get further into, though.
To conclude my too-long-answer (sorry!!) -- I am still catching up on the past 6 years of Harry and Louis, but from what I have seen of the recent years, I have a feeling Louis does feel very seen..
..and that he's responding the most that he currently can / is comfortable with π₯Ήπ³οΈβπ
(melting at this decor of Louis' tourbus in 2022: another bear with a Louis smiley rainbow flag π₯Ήπ§Έπ³οΈβπ) (source post)
And I feel the same way about Harry. ("Feelin' myself. ππ³οΈβππ³οΈββ§οΈ")
Harry and Louis have both been brave -- together and individually - in so many ways over the last 14 years. It left them at different points in their public images and just like you, anon, I sometimes ask myself "Maybe Louisβ current outward public appearance/behaviour is exactly who he is now and/or how he wants to be perceived in the world." - it's not impossible. It's all a journey, for every member of our community. And Louis and Harry are still on it and have not reached the final destination, yet.
Harry's taken a more public road in 2015 than Louis was allowed to do and from the way Louis looked at Harry while he was bounding across the stage with the flags every night, he loved seeing his boy like that and likely silently cheered for him; knew Harry was doing it for him also. After all, they are a package deal est. 2010.
I'm secure in my belief that we will one day see Louis feel ready to pick up a rainbow flag on stage; that he'll raise it and lift a middle finger to everyone who ever doubted; that he'll let that flag hang from his mic stand for himself and Harry and all of us who always support him; who see him -- now and also back in the earliest days, where a 19 year old very camp Louis adopted British gay code for himself and happily sung his heart out at the G-A-Y next to the boy he's in love with.
I believe Louis when he says the last 2 years were incredibly happy for him. And despite it being an awful and tough time (for Harry, Zayn) and him right now, he's also said something he's always had and always will have is resilience. I hope he takes all the time he needs. Luckily, Harry and him have each other in this, too. Also I can imagine that Liam's sudden passing might have shifted their perspectives on a few things, as well.. so we will see.
I definitely can't wait to see Louis on tour again, when he gets to share himself exactly the way he's comfortable with π₯Ή
Then..
and now β¨
(gif credit 1 + gif credit 2, both by the amazing @delicatepointofview)
additional resources aka. two of my fave tags of all time to just spend time in: the Louis and rainbows and Harry and rainbows tag and this post of Louis using Polari ("aΒ secretΒ language gay men used popularly in the 50s to communicate with each other in England [...] commonly used until the 90s") all by the wonderful @daisiesonafield-blog
thank you for the kind message π x
#ask#Paz rambles#meta#Flamboyant#Louis#gay coding#Harry#rainbows#rbb and sbb#larry#π₯Ήπ³οΈβπ#coming out#he's gay Petra!#closeting#in this house WE HATE SYCO#in this house WE HATE MODEST!#music industry#i'm the fucking worst this took me 7 hours to write#me? being able to keep myself short? it's more unlikely than you think#mine#2024
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also liamβs face inclining towards Louis with a smile and pleasantly surprised raised eyebrows, too :β)
LOOK AT LOUISβ FACE WHEN THE MAN SAYS FOUR IS A RAINBOW
#π₯Ήπ³οΈβπ#louis#liam#rainbows#iirc they decline afterwards that its a rainbow though :(#in a bit of an awkward way but hey#interview#Four#2014
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What advice do you have for queer youth? x happy two years since Noah came out!
#π₯³π³οΈβπ#noah schnapp#noahschnappedit#fns gifs#will byers#it's incredible to see his growth even since this video π₯Ή so so proud
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i have an art prompt: imagine lesbyler at senior prom!!
(thank you for drawing lesbyler im fucking obsessed)
Class of β89 letβs go!
#lesbyler#millow#I had way too much fun with this#I especially loved making willowβs boots#that girl has gothic tendenciesβ¦#mike wheeler#will byers#byler#stranger things#I wish the if byler were two girls anon a very fuck you#also I canβt draw with colors it gives me anxiety I hope you understand π’#but bet you guys can guess what colors their dresses are π#yβall know Jonathan took this π₯Ήπ³οΈβπ#byler fanart#illustration#drawing#stranger things fanart#fanart#art#artists on tumblr#sapphic
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pokΓ©mon really gave us passionate aging artists and Symbolism in their newest games, didn't they...
#i love them i love them I LOVE THEM. SO MUCH.#the exact dynamic that i adore... helping one another and encouraging the other's passions... GOSHHHH...#i really really r e a l l y hope we get more of them from the dlc and horizons#hASSEL IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER IN THE GAME. BY THE WAY. very silly art teacher... he would be friends with a flygon.. π₯Ή#brassius is my favorite paldean gym leader... very obvious i know π€²π³οΈβπ#aghghh i still need to do the gym leader rematches in violet. which i have been holding off from doing so brassius will always be on my map#i LOVE THESE CHARACTERS SOOO MUCH#pokemon#pokΓ©mon#pokemon scarlet and violet#pokemon sv#pokemon hassel#pokemon brassius#hassel#brassius#flapple#applin#sunkern#ephemeralartshipping#hassius#flygon used sketch#by the way. i love their SYMBOLISM.
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added the tags for context <3
Louis pointing at pride flags during Only The Brave β³ Requested by anon
#I Say Thatβs My Baby And Iβm Proud#fr fr that makes me so soft and happy#π₯Ήπ³οΈβπ#louis#rainbows#live#2022
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A Dont Look Back edit I recall making three years ago amidst a migraine episode... COMFORT MOVIE!!! FAVORITE MOVIE!!! π₯Ή
Song: "Joe Blazey" by Dominic Fike
#hadn't posted either of my 'dont look back'-adjacent edits here yet so i figured i would since i still really like how they turned out π₯Ήπ#honestly all of my animals edits are also 'dont look back'-adjacent π#i always joke that i use that footage of alan grimacing in all of them... I ALWAYS DO. I CAN'T HELP IT. THE EXPRESSION THAT CHANGED MY LIFE#anyway ee eee eee funny bob dylan movie. means a lot to me.#after the first half of the year i might work on-and-off on a 'dont look back' analysis script because there's SO MUCH TO SAY#the way some narrative arcs are subtly portrayed in such an erratic and intimate way is GENIUS. PENNEBAKER YOU ARE GENIUS.#bob has two (really three) coinciding arcs and the emotional linchpin of alan price plays a primary role in all of them in this essay i will#wAHHH honestly everyone plays a big role in all of bob's arcs π it's a group effort and that's why i love it so much#shout-out to the british music scene crica early-1965 all my homies love the british music scene circa early-1965#i have some exciting art i will be preparing to celebrate it all......#(alan price will come free of charge of course. i am not unpredictable ππ³οΈβπ)#bob dylan#bob neuwirth#joan baez#alan price#albert grossman#donovan#bob dylan and donovan smile at each other in 4k resolution *explodes*#bonovan#dont look back#dont look back (1967)#don't look back#don't look back (1967)#classic rock#60s rock#1960s#things i said today
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obsessed with the way louis loudly mouths βI love HIMβ, then leans back into this hip pop with gleeful smirk, basking in the crowd cheering for his love. and all of that dressed in green, too!
absolute king diva husband behaviour πππ
#we see you we hear you babe#louis#larry stylinson#I love Him#finding out he mouths those changed pronouns all the time is the feast that keeps on nourishing me#π₯Ήπ³οΈβπ#Louis being Loud#Back To You#lyric changes#live#Louis singing about Harry#Louis loves Harry#I love their love#larry#mine#2024
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WICKED!! ;DDDD!! πβ€οΈ
I JUST WATCHED WICKED!! ;DDDD!! πβ€οΈ IT WAS SOO FUCKING GOOD!! ;DDD <33 ;DD <33 XDDDD!! ;Dddd!! ππππ
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ONE OF THE BEST MOVIES IVE EVER SEEN!! ;DDD <33 ;DD <33 XDDDD!! ;DDDD!! πππππ³οΈβππ³οΈββ§οΈβ€οΈππππππ
SOOO SO FUCKING GOOD!! ;DD <33 ;DD <33 XDDDD!! ;DDDD!! π€¨π€ͺππππ€ͺπ
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#WICKED#PLS GO WSTCH IT#HOLY SHIT#ONE OF TBE BEST MOVIES IVE EVER FUCKING SEENNNN#SOOO FUCKING GOOD!! ;DDDDDDD! π₯Ήπππ
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the FLAG on the amps!!!!!!!!
things that yβall have moved on from way too fast that regularly make me lose my mind
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The Animals in Paris, France - December 1964 πΎπβ¨οΈ
#my last animals-versary drawing for 1964!!!! and aaAAAA I'M SO HAPPY WITH HOW IT TURNED OUT!!!!! π₯Ή#goshhhhh the entire paris photoshoot means the absolute world to me... i love the colors and the atmosphere and the lighting and aagGhghh#the alan price scarf ππ³οΈβπβ¨οΈ#ERIC WITH HIS CAMERA!!!!!! PHOTOGRAPHER!ERIC SPOTTED!!!!#also y e s i made the paris animals out of perler beads too... making little perler bead friends is a big hobby of mine#it's nice to be able to carry them with me anywhere!!!! π₯Ήπ₯Ή i take my 'rising sun'!animals with me soooo many places#i'm pretty happy with the way i captured their likeness and their outfits even with the limited colors#mini perler beads aren't being made as often anymore and i'm s a d i like the mini ones π lets me make animals pocket-sized#OH WELL. I WILL MADE DUE. AND MAKE CHAS TALL.#aaAAAA such a relaxing piece to work on the past month π₯Ή it's been busy but rewarding..... animals always soothe#i have so many fun things already planned for 1965 animals-versaries.... along with general animal doodles#i've been doing so many big projects that it will be nice to wind down with smaller drawings π lots of price-burdon....#anyway.... PREPARING MYSELF FOR CHRISTMAS#the animals#eric burdon#alan price#john steel#chas chandler#hilton valentine#60s rock#60s music#classic rock#british rock#british invasion#worried life arts#perler beads#perler art
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π₯ Konny and Leon (but mostly Leon) discuss Joβs 17/18 semifinal goal vs. Real Madrid
#so much Kimetzka content these daysβ¦I feel so fed π₯Ή#iβm so used to giving and now i get to receive#so much to unpack#βhere comes Joshiβ#Leon joking that Jo did that celebration for him?!?!#Konny believing him until he said he was kidding??#okkkk π€¨π³οΈβπ#the way Leon talks about Jo and his style of play with so much love and fondness is something Iβll never tire of#their bond can be something so personal#leon goretzka#konrad laimer#joshua kimmich#kimetzka#kimmetzka#leoshua#fc bayern#fc bayern munich#fc bayern mΓΌnchen#videos#fav tag
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even with mercedes, nico should have won before 2012. he led most of the race in china in 2011, but mercedes had miscalculated how much fuel they needed and underfueled the car. he had to do insane fuel saving for the last part of the race, which meant that he got jumped by both red bulls and both mclarens. the fact that he still brought it home in fifth was insane. nico dragged the worst mercedes cars of all time into positions that they should not have been in, and then kept them there even when the team screwed him
forged by the fires of Williams and then a shit Mercedes...... this is who George Russell thinks he is πππ
#you will never be her!!!#nico is that girl#i made bella edit this specifically the first two fingers having no nail extensions π³οΈβπ#MY no wins midfielder π₯Ή#blorbocedes ask
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Just wanted to tell you I love you.
Love you too, dear.
#ππ₯Ήπ³οΈβπ#bungo stray dogs#bsd#bsd rp#bungo stray dogs rp#bungou stray dogs#paul verlaine#verlaine bsd
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just watched the rebels finale, why did I do my makeup before this? sobbing.
#the people cheering in the street π₯Ήπ₯Ή#HERA AND REX FOUGHT IN THE BATTLE OF ENDOR#little jacen looking like his papa#zeb and kallus I see you two π³οΈβπ#and sabine & ahsoka ahhh#rewatching the ahsoka series again with new eyes#sw rebels#star wars brainrot
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β¦and whenever he will finally do it, weβll be here in droves to support him and back him up π³οΈβπππΌ in the present and the future.
he looked at that flag for so long, it looked like he was seconds away from putting it on his mic stand π³οΈβπ
...we are really going to see louis wave a flag this tour aren't we?
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