#“dont be racist” girl fandoms are racist.

[quixtrix]

tired of people being like "yall dont talk about dolph" "yall dont talk about sarah" the answer is right there look at both of them

[villalunae]

the boiling hatred in my soul for nintendo for making zelda fridge herself. like how much do you fucking hate women. the girl kills herself for the narrative!! its plot important!! she humiliates her body mind and soul forever, destroys it and tears it to pieces ALL just so pretty boy can have his precious sword back all safe and sound bc ummm obviously theres no other plotlines we could have pursued for you losing the master sword </3 like. theres feminist ways to have this happen i promise you nintendo so why did you choose the most fucking misogynistic framing of it. "zelda disembowels herself for link" SoooO hashtag girl power nintendo. rlly shows how much zelda values herself and her autonomy and her dignity

[bitchesgate3]

mizora fans are the only safe side of the fandom for me

[hauntingblue]

Kaido lore?!

[blue-thief]

i've been lucky to never get directly targeted, and i'm probably poking at a hornet's nest rn, but the dazai anon just made a somewhat coherent thread on twt but they still come across as completely irrational and bigoted. like wtf dude

[p2ii]

Damian. is not growing up to tower over Tim. lol, bro is probably stunted already from the trauma-malnourishment. Plus he is fitted with a METAL SPINE. A metal spine that iirc, Bruce doesn't even know about. how he gonna grow when his spine is one size only?

[floralovebot]

Sometimes I don't understand this Winx fan's mania of wanting to redesign everything Winx, the characters... even the planets. I understand that each one can have their own headcanon, but there are already incredible designs in the animated series!!! You just have to expand them!!! Don't redesign them to suit your personal taste!!

Sometimes I wonder if these people really like Winx Club, or they just like it because of what it made them feel in their childhood, and nowadays they don't like it very much but the nostalgia is so strong, that that's why they make these redesigns, they change everything about the characters, so that it is more to personal taste.

I understand that art is an expression... but sometimes so many things change, I don't know what to think.

I've even seen them for rewrites... do they know that I'm going to imagine the story with Winx's designs and not theirs?

Sorry for the rant.

I mean,, I don't think it's fair to say that all redesigners hate winx and just have strong nostalgia. As much as I bitch about the fandom's racism, I'll always be incredibly supportive of the amount of creativity and freedom of expression that fans have here. I've seen some fandoms where every little headcanon and redesign gets scrutinized for literally no reason. Not to bring up hp in the year 2023 but I once saw someone bitch at an artist for drawing hermione with dark brown hair. Like. The winx fandom is honestly one of the only fandoms I've been in where people are encouraged to share how they would change things. (not the only fandom of course, but it's definitely not a thing that every fandom does).

That being said,, I do see your point with some redesigns feeling like it's just hating on the og winx. I think most, if not all, of the people who are really active in the fandom, have a winx sideblog, or just post a lot of winx are very much doing their redesigns out of love. But every now and then, you'll see a redesign where the poster just,, shits on winx for no reason. Like,, I've especially seen a lot of outright misogyny and internalized misogyny about the winx wearing skirts and dresses and being princesses. Like sorry you can't imagine strong female characters with personalities who also wear skirts sometimes. deal.

And again, I have no problem with people just redesigning things for fun and wanting to see how things could be expanded or even improved on, but I've definitely started to notice more of an,, ego complex where some people act like their redesign is the absolute pinnacle of society and the og winx (and occasionally other redesigns) suck shit. Like no dude you're in the same camp smoking the same weed as the rest of us calm the fuck down.

I mean,, I'll always be more in favor of redesigns and headcanons. I think it's a really special part of the fandom! But I also understand why it can be jarring and even upsetting to see people take these characters and places and just,, get rid of every canon aspect to make it what they Want instead of just expanding on what's already there. At that point, it definitely feels like someone just wanted to play in the winx universe but didn't care for any of the actual aesthetics or lore. It also feels like a slap in the face when people completely change a character's entire personality and call it a headcanon like no babe that's not stella winx club, that's generic blonde girl #3. Literally just make your own oc at that point.

I mean again, I'm never going to just shit on someone's headcanon or redesign just because I Personally don't vibe with it. But I am going to call out racism. Always. And someone spending hours creating something doesn't absolve them of being racist.

[thebadtimewolf]

why r u so mad about ppl preferring ten x madame de pompadour to ten x martha like ten/martha will never be a thing. ten don’t want anything to do with martha. he literally said to her face she wouldn’t replace rose… and she never did… isnt canon enough for you

hm.

im glad im only a scorpio on this alone. if martha deserved better than ten then so do all of em but anyway:

this ask is giving 2006/07 i dont want to see tenth doctor in a romantic relationship with a person of color because i can't project myself or relate to them if they arent the very thing being catered to me ever since the silent pictures vibes. u know the same vibe when rtd was told to not regenerate 14 in 13's clothes. just. Ick.

but im not mad. its just interesting for a ship so big as tenrose, it is usually correlated with hating madame de pompadour and/or joan and/or river [though in joan's case they hate her not because shes racist but because shes not rose]

though comics tend to release to combat that in multi doctor stories where they jump through various alternate universes of themselves where the doctor sees themselves settled down with dr. grace holloway (for 8th dr multi doctor stories) and professor melody williams/river song (for 11th dr multi doctor stories) where in those cases, they are frightful of the concept settling down at all. [take note that both times, he settles down in the same house that he owns bc of that unit paycheck on the dl] so i am curious that with this new drs, the equivalent of this would be 13 14 15 being terrified of settling down with rose because they had grown past her as this point.

i prefer the doctor in a polyromantic ace relationship than their umpteenth 🌟tragic heteronormative romance with yt human woman number 23445788764443356743🌟 i want 14 to sweep martha off her feet in pure joy and kiss her passionately while badmouthing tf out of 10 like 9 11 12 13 do with no filter before cradling her like a baby because hes about to crumble under his brand new identity complex and then take her kid to an amusement park and then 14 trips over a brick and dies. hell i rather have nina sosanya play a whole different lady in nod to doctor who recycles their actors trope as a way to introduce a love interest to 14

that amusment park one weirdly sounds like a 8th doctor audio. pls 🙏🏾 dont make it into one i couldnt handle schezro let alone the rest of his content. Empire of the Wolf made me so fucking worried for rose marion tyler like im just she back home 🫣. as for rose tyler from the sea devil universe still out about. whoop his ass. if billie come back as HER? MISS COVER MODEL MISS DICTATOR MISS EMPRESS ROSE?

NOT

i would love for ten to be strictly friends with the new miss empress rose. get that martha karma real quick ehehehehe after all rtd did say they need freema for somethin and im sure seeing 10 get treated the same way he treated martha by no other than empress rose herself -AND THEN EMPRESS ROSE FLIRTS WITH MARTHA??? FINGERS CROSSED??? im just saying that i personally will ride on that for 8 black history months and christmases straight like woo

also real glad it is collectively decided by every one that tentoo is just john smith not corin so yay thanks big finish and titan comics

[oarfishing]

im usually not into reblogging call-out posts but hoooooooly shit one of xir most recent posts is speculating about the literal actual humanity of indigenous australians. wondering why they're just (and i quote directly) "different looking homo sapiens" instead of a new species. i see this person fucking everywhere in reblogs can we like collectively kick xir ass off this platform. preferably worse

hey heads-up: prismatic-bell made a post just today threating to sic the FBI on people thru their direct tipline. the post is from 7:57 CST, August 19th, 2024

I think we need to start a mass-blocking campaign before someone fucking gets killed

jesus fucking christ

[wylansworkshop]

I know I'm mutuals with a lot of swifties so my anxiety is going crazy right now about wanting to say anything but like what was that 1830s without the racism shit??

Like I really hope she can take the backlash she's getting for this (if I'm understanding correctly it's really just about 'I hate it here' and 'but daddy I love him') and learn from it bc I don't want to believe she had malicious intent but it did not come through how she wanted it to and she can learn from this

[prongsandpetals]

no one asked for this but i’m saying it anyway because i am tired of this grandpa.

i dont hate jegulus or their shippers. personally, it doesnt make sense to me and my moral compass trickles into fiction meaning i dont have much interest in any of the slytherins. it could also be the fact that when people would create oc’s for james in their fics 10 yrs ago and made lily a raging bitch id be fighting them all in the comments- a fight or flight response that now has spread to jegulus- but thats neither here nor there. it brings people joy and they are fictional characters, and it doesnt physically hurt anyone!

but there is something to be said about some of the less savoury implications it has had on the fandom. it feels as though jily is in its own subfandom sort of pushed to the side, leaving two mlm ships to dominate. unfortunately a lottt of female characters have been forgotten or pushed aside because of this. a lot of people who joined the fandom not that long ago either dont know or forget that this fandom was not built on either wolfstar (who i love), or jegulus. yes, they popularised them, but this fandom has revolved around jily for over 10 years. not to mention many of these fics were written from lilys pov, meaning there was so much more depth put into the girls characters. to erase this is to erase the fandoms history.

the diversifying of characters is something amazing that has come more recently with the popularisation of the fandom and thats one of the good parts!! however if someone still views aaron taylor johnson as their james, that doesn’t make them a racist - the man has been james since at least 2006.

another (smaller) thing ive seen is someone will post a song or a photo and attribute it to a jily moment with harry that we can realistically see happening canonically and a comment will say something along the lines of: “this but its how james felt when regulus (insert something that did not happen here)” idk if its the autism but god those always get me a little bit, especially when it includes harry.

similarly, it feels as though people who ship jily are assumed to be less progressive. as a lesbian jily shipper i can’t disagree more. just because a ship is a straight ship does not make it a bad ship - i think we can all agree there are so many amazing LGBTQ+ ships out there now for everyone to enjoy. it does feel quite strange to me to place the two characters who created the child that there are seven books about into different ships, but people like them so its chill!! but when its just complete eradication or discontent with the canon ship… ;(

i also think that to have jegulus be endgame (except aus), a lot of james’s insanely important character traits literally HAVE to be erased. his hatred for death eaters and fight for justice, his unending loyalty to his friends - especially sirius- his black and white view on right and wrong, all of these traits become warped and stretched when it comes to jegulus. of course there isnt much canon to go off of so when people disregard it entirely i can understand it to a degree. but when you erase the important canon points we have on their characters, we are basically just creating oc’s with real characters names.

another thing that i find irksome is the fetishisation of these mlm ships- if youre gonna ship two men together do it right!! why are you calling regulus a cute little baby victim and james a big strong protector!! let them be complex and messy or dont do it at all! not to mention the erasure of a lot of wlw ships... lowkey gives girl who has gay boy best friend that thinks lesbians are weird… anyways off topic! ive heard people say its not fetishisation, its because the female characters arent written with depth- that’s why people read jegulus and wolfstar! okay? go give the girls some depth? regulus is a character we basically know nothing about canonically and youve turned him into a fully fleshed character who is now a lot of peoples favourite - it can be done with the girls too. there is such emphasis placed on wolfstar and jegulus for their deep, tragic love stories - and the marauders friendship in general. the gryffindor girls are right there. dorlene is right there. marylene is right there.

and if it truly werent fetishisation, i would argue that it can be a romanticisation of toxic relationships. a lot of people dislike jily because there is no “angst”. the angst is fighting in a war at 21 years old. the angst is lily and james’s differing blood statuses and the implications this has on their lives. the angst is having a prophecy hanging over their unborn child’s head that forces them into hiding. the angst is being betrayed by their best friend, leading them to sacrifice themselves for their family and the wizarding world. the angst is literally right there, but because their relationship is healthy and happy- one of the only things in their lives that is not full of pain- they are deemed boring.

again, i dont hate jegulus. i especially dont dislike anyone who likes the ship and gets something out of it. but there is so much change this fandom has gone through since their introduction and popularisation that has made interacting with the fandom as a whole almost unbearable sometimes, and thats what i do hate.

all in all, multishippers definitely have the most fun.

[enemywasp]

I've always been profic in that IDGAF what people do and simply block if someone posts stuff I dont want to see, but I've always wondered what other profic people think about when people say things that are homophobic or misogynistic about fictional characters? Like calling a female character a slut because she likes a male character or saying "he just hasn't found the right girl yet" about a canonically gay character. I've always thought that, even though i still wont go out of my way to be angry at them about it, it IS more harmful than shit like shipping incest because exploring themes you wouldn't in real life is different than genuinely believing something about a certain type of person, if that makes sense? But anyway I just want to know what other profic people think

[I have been avoiding this ask for when I had energy to actually use my brain and it took longer than expected so sorry about that]

Yeah, I'm completely with you. I think in ways the way you talk about characters can reflect what I think of someone in ways. But not in the ways antis often talk of like "if someone likes incest in fiction, they probably like it irl".

I think being racist towards characters is unfortunately quite a common one in fandom. And if you're willing to say something racist in general, then I think that says more about you - as it's a mindset, a way of thinking, and perceiving whole groups of people.

I think misogynistic, racist, and homophobic comments of characters all fall under the category of stereotyping, which is a brand of fiction that does affect reality on a harmful level. It reflects how we perceive people with those traits irl, because it's not something like *character does something bad and we know it's bad*. It's more subtle things. Or things that are applicable to whole groups at once and are AIMING to be offensive.

Like the idea of saying a gay man just "hasn't found the right woman yet" is something said and used to put down gay people irl. But at the same time, choosing to explore writing canonically gay characters as straight isn't inherently harmful to me either. It's a fine line of intention I think.

Within stories, it's important bigotry isn't censored as it's important we can write about these experiences and we are not the characters we write. But when talking of our own opinions of characters, that is an actual reflection of what we think. So if you turn to me and say you think a female character is a slut in a derogatory manner, then I'm going to question how you perceive real women too.

[thestarsloth]

I believe it is time for me to talk about piper again

Something i really dont like about this fandom is that we were quick to hate her even though the main reason wasnt her character

People generally hate her because of her relationship with drew. The problem here though is not piper, but the way drew was portrayed by the author. Drew was a flat character, and to me she was a lot like Nancy Bobofit (who didnt appear a lot tbh). In my opinion, if we knew drew a bit more, hers and Piper's fight would be much more interesting.

They also hate her because she ONCE said that the aphrodite cabin was shallow. We all know how rick has treated the aphrodite kids, right? Percy has said many things like that about them but noones hating on him. I know that is not an excuse but see the difference on how we treat the white boy?

Another reason is that she is not as traumatized as the others (??whywouldthatbeareason??) and people say she complains a lot, which, to be honest, i did not see in the books.

To start with, she was most of the time neglected by her dad who didnt understand her needs and never paid attention to her (to the point she had to steal a freaking car thank you very much). We' ve seen she was treated really bad from the kids in her school (racist comments and also comments about her family) and lets not talk about how bullying affects teenage kids. Lets just say that we all sympathized with percy when he was bullied and changed schools all the time but noone talks about the fact that piper was also bullied (and not by having pb&j thrown at her, which is also bad but...)

People also say that she is a "pick me" and "not like other girls". First of all, shaming her because she doesnt wear makeup or isnt stereotypically "girly" is more misogynistic than anything you say piper did.

She has never ever said anything that implies shes doing so for boys. Sje genuinly didnt like those things and people straight up attacked her for being a teenage girl with MASSIVE OTHER PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH.

She did not shame drew for liking makeup as far as i remember, she only called the cabin shallow because they treated her EXACTLY like her bullies.

Also she "only talks about jason" and is "possesive". Hmhm. Reminds you of anything? OH! ANNABETH! But the white blond girl was excused because she was a "teenager", yet ive never seen anyone defend PIPER'S mistakes with that excuse, even if it is the truest thing for both her and Annabeth.

I have nothing against percy and annabeth, or people who headcanon piper as girly, but we should remember that canon piper was a teenage girl and support her just like we do with annabeth.

Thanks for reading my rant and i would love to hear opinions. I hope i didnt sound too agressive defending a fictional character hehe.

[haowenyang]

ok guys small rant but erm yeah

ADAMANDI FANDOM PLEASE GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER MY GOD. the show is about queerness, yes BUT ITS MAIN THEME IS RACISM. STOP MAKING VINCENT A STUPID GUY BECAUSE HES SHOWN AS STUPID AND BELIEVES HES STIPID BECAUSE OF RACISM NOT TO MENTION THE FACT HES AUTISTIC CODED. STOP DEFENDING THE FACT AMRBOSE IS FRIENDS WITH LITERAL RACISTS. STOP MAKING QUINCYS ONLY TRAIT THE FACT HES SMART. STOP MAKING PORTIA AN UWU VUTE GIRL THAT IS INNOCENT AND DOESNT SWEAR. STOP IGNORING THE FACT RACISM PUSHED BEATRIX TO MANIPULATE VINCENT SO SHE COULD PROVE HERSELF DUE TO RACISM. STOP MAKIMG AMBROSE NOT HOLD ANY SEXIST/TOXIC TRAD MASC IDEALS AS WELL AS INTERNALISED JOMO/TRANSPHOBIA. STOP THISPLEASE

adamandi is a show about SYSTEMIC RACISM. ABOUT HOW IT PUSHED BEATRIX VINCENT AND QUINCY TO HORRIFIC LENGTHS JUST TO PROVE TJEMSELVES. I AM WHITE SO I DONT UNDERSTAND IT FULLY, BUT STILL. PLEASE.

and for the love of god, stop sexualising the characters.

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