#Şehzade Bayezid
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humasahsultanimsworld · 3 months ago
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KÖSEM & GÜLBAHAR & BAYEZİD
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magnificentlyreused · 3 months ago
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This pyjama was first worn by Şehzade Mehmed in the twelth episode of the third season of Magnificent Century. It appeared again in the thirty-sixth episode of the same season, this time on Rüstem Pasha. The pyjama was worn again by Şehzade Bayezid in the twenty-fourth episode of the fourth season.
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thevampiricnihal · 2 months ago
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Bayezid really takes after Season 1 Hürrem: His impulsivity, his anger issues, his Uber-Fertility…
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malbonteobsessedsworld · 9 months ago
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Cihangir: In your opinion, what's the height of stupidity?
Bayezid: Hey, Selim,how tall are you?
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nesiacha · 10 months ago
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I repeat one of my comments posted on Youtube
If I had my say on the way Suleiman's children were portrayed, because like a lot of people, I didn't like the way it was written in Magnificent Century, that's what I would do. ( In my eyes, Mustafa was seen as a pure white sehzade, which therefore made him in my eyes more stupid and less interesting than he actually was. Mehmed was practically erased of his personality and seen as a pure Gary Stu like his half brother. Cihangir, who I adore, yet in the series was too naive. Selim is seen as evil, etc...)
I would respect the historical point of view more. I propose an alternative version, I would have added Suleiman's children he had when he was sehzade with his other concubines before he became Sultan and met Hurrem and then had them die of the plague as it was historically.
Sehzade Mustafa - I would keep his childlike personality, except he is not close to his siblings (because of the fratricidal law), and I wouldn't put him close to Ibrahim at least until he becomes an adult and allies himself with him. I would let his mother take care exclusively of his education. A young man who craves recognition and attention from his father, who often neglects him in return over his other children due to the fact that Mahidevran is the Sultan's least beloved concubine. The more he becomes an adult, and especially a father, the more he resents his father because of the way he treats his mother and him. He does not really understand his father and therefore his fears due to the fact that he did not grow up close to him. I would keep his efficient heir personality because he performs very well despite his father never teaching him well because of his mother who is a very good advisor. Instead of doing something for his military glory or showing off his harem too much, I would focus on how he improves the lives of common people exhausted by too much conquest. I would make his guilt very ambiguous, at the start it is clear that he wants to wait for his father to die to have the throne and restore his mother's honor, however, he realizes that his father lets his vizier lead his life impossible to see even encourages him, does not hide that he preferred to have a son of Hurrem on the throne no matter what Mustafa will do. Following this, the sehzade wants to have a second plan like his grandfather in case Suleiman wants to abdicate in favor of another of his sons which would put him in danger (which could explain the Venetian correspondence, others say that it was a plan to prevent his brothers from escaping if one day he became Sultan) but hesitates to actually carry it out, then after some hesitation goes to his father's tent and gets strangled. Instead of doing Atmaca, I would focus on Mustafa's son-in-law, Nergissah's husband who started as Rustem's ally and becomes his most loyal supporter ( it seems that it is more a legend than truth, but I didn't remeber well as I didn't have on me my books of historian like Halil Inalcık) . So I would avoid making a treacherous Sehzade, his mistakes would be understandable, but he wouldn't be a pure white Sehzade.
Sehzade Mehmed: it's more complicated for him because he died without having proven himself in a complicated province like Amasya, so it's quite difficult to make a comparison with Mustafa. But I would make sure to give him a real personality: initially close to some of his brothers like Selim and Bayezid, he becomes, despite his mother, more distant towards them because of the fratricide (Mehmed II had therefore legalized it there is not much way to escape from it at the time unlike MCK) although he is very close to Cihangir and his sister. Unlike Mustafa, his father trained him in the regency of the palace and he did very well by dint of advice and practice. When he is sent to the provinces, he often listens to his mother's advice when she visits him. Knowing that he has the support of the statesmen against Mustafa he realizes knowing his father better than his half brother that he will have to play the role of the obedient sehzade not interested in politics although deep down he prepare for it. He has the happiness of being a father but dies immediately afterwards.
Mihrimah Sultan- I would make sure to respect the historical Hurrem who wants her daughter to have a marriage of love and happiness. However Suleiman prefers Rustem, and she accepts him immediately because she will do everything to save her brothers and convince her mother to accept this marriage. I would rather show her as a politician as well as her diplomatic relations. However, I would underline the unjust side of Suleiman, he had Mustafa executed and condemned Mahidevran to poverty but refuses to punish Mihrimah by banishing her because she would have helped Bayezid financially during his rebellion. Their relationship would be cold for a time before reconciling. She will be reconciled with her brother Selim because basically they only remain and will be an ally of Nurbanu.
Sehzade Abdullah- I would have included him even if he died very young.
Sehzade Selim- Initially a cultured young man very focused on charity work like his mother and sister and very sober. Nevertheless it is often sad due to the law of fratricide. When Mustafa dies, he realizes he has a chance to escape it and he will fight in a wicked way especially for his son Murad because he knows that Bayezid's temper will put him in danger besides fratricide. He knew how to recruit powerful and efficient state members. He is on the whole an obedient sehzade but who is disgusted with his father's treatment of Mahidevran (after all she is no longer a threat to him she no longer has a son) and who will take risks to her by helping her financially. As the hardships go on, his depression increases he drinks more and more especially after his sister takes the part of Bayezid, that his brother Bayezid dies, and the fact that he is obliged to make other sons in the case where Murad dies without an heir which means that he knows that his other sons will be condemned to death. He has become a broken leader although he makes sure there is effective governance.
As a Sultan he must face his father's mistakes, including the way he led the Empire, including too many wars and unnecessary conquests in Europe. ​
Sehzade Bayezid- Him complicated. Due to his explosive temper he is the black sheep of his siblings (Mustafa does not count since he is a half brother, they do not even know each other) and the most incompetent of Suleiman's sons and Suleiman is worried because he has inherited the worst faults of Selim Yavuz like being angry easily (without having had his qualities). Yet deep down he wants affection and that's why he has several children even if it's irresponsible, his mother favors him because she's afraid for him because he has too impulsive nature . Mihrimah comes to his aid only in memory of his mother, because deep down she prefers Selim, Bayezid knows this, which means that he hardly listens to her. She only helps him financially as a last resort because she couldn't convince him to call off the rebellion. Suleiman was more lenient to his mistakes that Mustafa (we could once again underline the unfair side of Suleiman again with this) until the point that he took refuge to the Shah.
Sehzade Cihangir- A cultured young man very close to his parents and very sick. I would make him a supporter of Selim because although he is close to him, he also knows that he is his only chance of survival because he is not close to Bayezid at all. He often sends information from the Palace to Selim to better aid him in managing his province and at times advises him to be more ruthless in his quest for the throne while remaining an obedient sehzade. It would therefore be a good adviser for Selim (and it would give him more personality). He cannot therefore be limited to the role of a simple supporter but also of a valuable advisor.
And that's how I would portray them if I were in the place of the screenwriters. They are all very nuanced (we avoid all white or all black), we can freely pick a favorite without trying to favor another sehzade at all costs, and I try to be consistent with what we know about them and try to explain why they did mistakes or make sucess.
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redrosecut · 1 year ago
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How should we name our son?
Any Magnificent Century character: Mehmed. It won't confuse anyone if there is more than one per generation. And it is also not like a very bad omen for that child's future.
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chaos-of-the-abyss · 10 months ago
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while i seriously hate how mustafa was written as the "golden prince," that scene where he has to get in between bayezid and selim bc they're throwing hands never fails to crack me up. as someone who has a brother... i relate
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gulnarsultan · 1 year ago
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Yandere platonic father Fatih Sultan Mehmet and daughter reader.
Years ago.
Şehzade Bayezid had just turned seven years old. He was appointed as the Governor of Amasya this year. Emine Gülbahar Hatun went to Amasya with her son. However, it was revealed that she was pregnant before she left. However, she left Istanbul in order not to leave her son alone. Nine months later, Emine Gülbahar Hatun gave birth to a healthy baby girl. As the years passed quickly, the beautiful Sultan was growing up.
One day, Sultan Mehmet calls Şehzade Bayezid to Istanbul. Şehzade Bayezid is going to Istanbul Palace with his mother and sister. Sultan Mehmet does not know how to feel when he sees his daughter, whom he has never seen. They are chatting while they eat together. Sultan Mehmet is trying to learn about his daughter. While they are in the Istanbul Palace, Sultan Mehmet tries to establish a father-daughter relationship with his daughter. However, Sultan Pektr is not eager to form a bond with his father. There is more than one option for what happens next.
Sultan Mehmet does not allow his daughter to wear clothes anymore. So the Sultan will now live in the Istanbul Palace.
Maybe Sultan Mehmet can't stand his daughter's sadness and lets his daughter go.
If there is a second option, he will still visit his daughter. Or he will want his daughter not to visit him. He will not neglect to write letters.
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ottomanladies · 3 months ago
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Hello, how are you, it’s me again!!
I’m sorry but I had to answer to your words
You says:
"I really have no idea where I said this because I looked for posts where I mentioned Theodora but I didn't find anything. This is what I said about her when I was asked to talk about Orhan's consorts"
I am absolutely not mistaken, you are the one who said that Theodora was Orhan's favorite wife, those are your words not mine. When someone asked you about the favorite consort of each consort, you clearly said Theodora for Orhan, I have the screenshot.
"I have no idea what this Mekce document is, I have never used it nor seen it. That Nilüfer was
"most likely" a concubine (words are important) is something that Peirce says in The Imperial Harem"
The mekce document is the "endowment" where Efendi and Melek are mentioned, Leslie and Feridun then deduced that they were Orhan's wives while nothing like that is certified in this document, quite the contrary. Leslie claims that Efendi is identified as Orhan's wife in a grant land, has anyone ever seen this grant land? No. So because Leslie said it, this is immediately true
"Again, I don't understand why you're thinking ** am the one who came up with the theory. I didn't.
I've never studied Orhan's family as it is not a subject I'm particularly interested in."
"All the claims about Efendi, Melek, Bayalun... | know nothing about this. I simply reported what I've found in books written by other people. Just take it up to them"
You post these things. You affirm things and post them making some people believe things that are absolutely not sure, when you post things on a subject that you do not master, you say nothing. You do not study Orhan's family but you post about him and his family? Things absolutely based on no source shown and on, you only use the sources of Leslie and Alderson to confirm such things when nothing is true? Or at least nothing like that has been confirmed. These historians having affirmed such things (without them being sure tho) doesn’t mean it’s right?
If you want to post things about Orhan's family, you should consider all possibilities and post them so that all theories are known to everyone.
There are books literally approved by Ottoman sultans where it is clearly stated that Nilüfer, Asporça and Theodora were Orhan’s only wives. Nilüfer is clearly stated as the daughter of the Yarhisar's tekfur and the first wife of Orhan, I suggest you the book "Kitab í çihannuna" Sultan Bayezid II himself approved this book or even "Camiud duvel" Sultan Murad III approved this book and asked for a copy.
Then out of all the books you found alderson’s book and immediately used it as a source and the way you didn’t even bothered reading ibn batuta’s book of travels before making assumptions about his visit to beylun hatun says a lot
Even if the historians you are quoting believe that aşikpaşazade isn’t a reliable source there are still uncountable ottoman hierarchy books that ottoman descendants themselves published. One of the latest source from Osmanoglu family is the book that Şehzade Orhan posts on his X acc.
Finally you weren’t forced to write about Orhan’s family and now that you were writing about him on a platform that you know many people will see and most ignorant ones will also believe in all that, you should have at least done a proper research instead of just using 2 historians who have already said numerous things that are completely false and aren’t even sure of what they are saying.
I'm not really familiar with the app, I could send you hundreds of books/ works of historians talking about Orhan's three wives and in which it is clearly, black on white stated that Nilüfer was noble and that besides Nilufer, Orhan had only two other wives. I also have the screen of Orhan Osmanoglu's post that I can send you when I figure out how to do it 😅
Sorry if I seem mean, have a nice day!!
I’m answering only because I realised there’s been a misunderstanding (maybe on my part). I think you’re referring to this ask
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which I answered saying MY favourite consort of each sultan, not their favourite consort. I guess this caused a misunderstanding because you’re not the first person to talk about this ask iirc.
As for the rest, I’m not arguing with you about the historical research of a tumblr blog. I made this blog because I loved making historical gifsets and I used the books I had to gather material; of course there’s gonna be mistakes, there are mistakes in academic papers too.
If you want to correct my mistakes write your own post about Orhan’s family or publish an academic paper about it.
P.S. it’s kinda disrespectful how you talked about my work here, when you don’t know how much effort I put into this blog (from which i don’t earn anything btw, it was done for fun). I guess you have never made mistakes in your life.
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haticesultanas · 3 months ago
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I am really glad that you have answered my analysis of Ümmügülsüm Sultan as daughter of Ahmed I.
I have investigated Sultanas for 3 years for now and I want to share my findings about daughters of Bayezid II that are kinda new ones... I want to hear your comments.
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In work Şehzade Korkud (ca. 1468-1513) and the Articulation of Early 16th Century Ottoman Religious Identity on page 60 (note 43), it is said that İlaldı Sultan was said to be own sister of Selim I. Additionally, in work The marriage of Ibrahim Pasha on page 25, it is said that Ferhad Pasha and Ahmed Pasha were pashas from Selim’s household; one married his daughter and another his sister. Ahmed Pasha was on strong positions even through reign of Selim I, so... But, I think that he was not the first husband of İlaldı; as she was Selim’s sister, she must had been older than him and probably she got married when he was sent to province (1487) if not earlier.
There are multiple suggestions and claims of Sofu Fatma Sultan’s marriages. Öztuna claims that her first marriage was in 1482 to Mirza Mehmed Pasha (d. August 1517, who was remarried in 1513 to Şahnisa Sultan); Alderson in his tables claim that she was married in 1489 to son of Koca Davud Pasha, Mustafa Pasha (d. 1524), which J. Dumas also confirmed at the end of the 2013 book at page 477. She was married to Güzelce Hasan Bey at sometime, but in work Şehzade Korkud (ca. 1468-1513) and the Articulation of Early 16th Century Ottoman Religious Identity on page 55 (note 23) it is stongly claimed that in late 1504 she was still married to Hasan Bey, but in June she was reffered as former wife of Hasan Bey.  In Dumas’s 2013 book, somewhere I have found that she says that she remarried after Hasan Bey to certain Ahmed Pasha, but I couldn’t find it now. If all these four marriages happened, if you ask me, at least in two cases marriage ended with a divorce.
In work Wolf on the Border: Yahyapaşaoğlu Bali Bey (?-1527) by Fodor, it is strongly claimed that gift records show Yahya Pasha was married in 1501/02 to Aynışah Sultan, and that Bali Pasha was her stepson who married her daughter in 1508. I strongly consider suggestion of historians that Aynışah was Şirin Hatun’s daughter FALSE. They consider her being buried beside her grandmother and father, although it is Şirin Hatun’s granddaughter Aynışah Sultan (who was buried there when she died in 1540). Aynışah Sultan was married in 1489 to her first cousin Ahmed Bey, who was 13 years old at the time. I consider Aynışah to be similar in age of her husband (thus being born in 1475/76), because if she was Abdullah’s own sister, she was born before 1464, which would mean she was twice as old as her husband, which is unimaginable to me.
Serbian historian Gliša Elezović claimed that Bayezid II’s daughter Hümaşah Sultan was remarried after death of her husband Bali Pasha to governor of Skopje Mustafa Pasha. Later, one of the historians made work about Çoban Mustafa Pasha, who was governor of Skopje during reign of Bayezid II and claims that he was Hümaşah’s second husband, and that after her death he remarried Selim I’s daughter Hafsa Sultan in 1517. With Hümaşah Sultan he had four daughters, see on second page: https://acikerisim.fsm.edu.tr/xmlui/bitstream/handle/11352/1785/%C4%B0brahimgil.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
Additionally, beside four daughters with Mustafa Pasha, Hümaşah Sultan had a son Hüseyinşah Bey, who died in 1566 and was from Karlizade family. Elezović also confirmed this, but also in work Journal of Turkish Studies 39 (2013), on page 248 this information is confirmed. But his father must have been from Karlizade family, and there was one of Bayezid II’s damads named Karlizade Mehmed Bey who was governor and still alive in 1511. In this document about provincial governors and damads of Bayezid II, he is reffered as II. Bayezid'in damatlarından Mehmed Bey bin Karlı'dır. Obviously, she divorced one of them…
In Fisher’s book The foreign relations of Turkey 1481-1512 we have two interesting informations; in 1481 there were recorded four sons-in-law of prince Bayezid (p. 17; note 33):
Hersekli Ahmed Pasha (Hundi Sultan lol); Sinan Pasha (Ayşe Sultan lol), Kasim aga-aga of the jannisaries and Rüstem pasha-janissary pasha. Are you able to find out what were names of wifes of other two pashas?
On page 93 of the same book:
It was not usual custom in Turkey to give daughters of the sultan to foreign princes, but Bayezid disregarded this usage and married two daughters outside the empire. One he had given to Amed Mirza of Persia, and now he cemented the friendship between Turkey and Egypt by sending a daughter to Cairo. This was in 1501, and the next year ambassadors were exchanged to discuss the affairs of Persia and the Syrian frontier.
In book Struggle for Domination in the Middle East by Shai Har-El (p. 215):
In 1501 Bayezid sent his daughter to marry the newly-enthroned Mamluk Sultan Kansu al-Gawri, thus confirming a peaceful relation between the two states. The following year, in the late 1502 Bayezid agreed to peace with Venice in order to free himself to deal with new problems emerging the East.
But, if you read Alderson’s tables (last note in tables of Bayezid II), he cites some source I couldn’t understand from Ulucay and says that this Sultana who married Kansuh was later accused of adultery. Nothing shocking to me as Kansuh al-Gawri was 60 years old at the time, and this Sultana was young. But I am dying to know what was her name. Could you be able to find out?
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You’re welcome, it was a very interesting read :D
I have to tell you in advance that it’s been a long time since I studied anything different from the Sultanate of Women so I may make mistakes or I may not know well what we’re talking about. Please, bear with me.
It's going to be very long, I'm sorry
If you don’t mind, I’m going to summarise what you said:
According to Nabil Al-Tikriti in Şehzade Korkud (ca. 1468-1513) and the Articulation of Early 16th Century Ottoman Religious Identity (p. 60, n. 43), İlaldı Sultan was “said to have been Selim’s full sister”
She married Ahmed Ağa (> Hâin Ahmed Paşa), who came from Selim I’s household and was one of his favourites (According to Öztuna, he was executed in Cairo)
According to Uluçay she must have died around 1518 because she doesn’t figure among the princesses who received a stipend from Selim I on that date
Sofu Fatma Sultan: she married Güzelce Hasan Bey (m. before late february 1504-june or before june 1506) and had a daughter with him. She married Ahmed Bey bin Ali Bey bin Mesih Paşa (Uluçay, p. 49). Her son Mehmed Çelebi later married Ayse Sultan daughter of Şehzade Alemşah.
According to Uluçay (via Sakaoglu), it’s not true that she had married Mustafa Bey, son of Grand Vizier Davud PashaYou may be right that she had a previous husband before Güzelce Hasan Bey because according to Uluçay she only had a daughter with him. He didn’t know her son Mehmed Çelebi’s father but that seems to mean she had another husband. Still, according to Uluçay, Sofu Fatma Sultan was also the wife of Ahmed Bey bin Ali Bey bin Mesih Paşa but both Sakaoglu and Oztuna maintain that he was the husband of her daughter instead.
Yes, so, about Dumas’ dissertation… Her family trees were not made by her, she simply reported what Alderson or Uluçay said in their books, so they’re not exactly sources. It can be seen in the fact that she never attempts to identify the princesses she finds in harem registers. For example, in her dissertation she says that “Gevherhan” was a daughter of Murad III with a concubine of non-haseki status (in reality that Gevherhan is Gevherhan binti Selim II, who had a long life) but she didn’t put her in the family trees at the end.
Aynışah Sultan: she first married Akkoyunlu Damad Göde Ahmed Bey in 1490, the marriage lasted until 1497 (when Ahmed Bey was killed during an uprising in Azerbaijan, where he had gone earlier that year to reclaim the throne of his grandfather, Akkoyunlu ruler Uzun Hasan). With Ahmed Bey, Aynışah had two daughters, Hanzade and an unnamed daughter who married her cousin Şehzade Alaeddin, son of Şehzade Ahmed. According to Öztuna, she also had a son: Sultân-zâde Zeynel Mîrzâ Bey. She secondly married Malkoçoğlu Dâmâd Yahyâ Pasha at the turn of the century (or 1501/1502). At the time, Yahya Pasha already had seven sons: Bali, Mahmud, Mehmed, Sinan, Ahmed, İskender, and Mustafa, who were all adults when their father married into the imperial family. In 1508, Yahya Pasha’s eldest son Bali Bey married one of Aynışah’s daughters from her previous marriage. The marriage was unhappy because the princess had several affairs, and did not produce any legitimate issue.
Akkoyunlu Damad Göde Ahmed Bey was the son of Gevherhan Sultan binti Mehmed II and Dâmâd Uğurlu Mehmed Mirza/Pasha. He was born in 1476 and was therefore 14 yo when he married Aynışah.
Hüma/Hümaşah Sultan: she firstly married Dâmâd Antalyalı Balı Paşa around 1482. After his death in 1494, she married Çoban Mustafa Paşa with whom she had four daughters: Huma, Hani, Şahzeman, and Ümmi Hatun (according to Mehmet Z. İbrahimgil in Makedonya'da Gazi Mustafa Paşa'nın Vakıf Malları). After Hümaşah Sultan’s death (1504??), Çoban Mustafa Pasha married Selim I’s daughter Hafsa.
The marriages of Selim I’s daughters are a mess, to say the least, so I won’t get into it. Turan says “In 1517 Mustafa Pasha married the widow of Bostancıbaşı Iskender Pasha, whom Selim had executed in 1515”. Öztuna gives these husbands to Hafsa, though he didn’t identify the bostancıbaşı: “=1. Dâmâd Fülân Ağa, bostâncıbaşı, executed by Yavuz. =2. Dâmâd Gaazî Çoban Mustafa Paşa (executed 20.8.1523) b. İskender Paşa (ölm. 1506)” I could not find any of Elezović’s works so I don’t know which his sources were. Grygor Boykov in Karlizâde ‘Ali Bey: an Ottoman Dignitary’s Pious Endowment and the Emergence of the Town of Karlova in Central Bulgaria (which is the essay in the Journal of Turkish Studies you mentioned) gives this information:
Another relative, one Hüseyin Şah Bey, who is known to have been an offspring of the Ottoman princess Huma Şah Sultan and of a member of the Karlizâde family, built in 1553/1554 in the village of Saray (near Skopje) a mosque, medrese, and a bridge over the river Vardar. He was buried there in 1566/1567 in a highly monumental mausoleum that almost rivals in size the mosque.
without sources, unfortunately.
The essay you mentioned is İlhan Gök’s İnamat Defteri’ndeki Verilere Göre 16. Yüzyılın İlk Çeyreğinde Osmanlı Eyalet ve Sancak Yöneticileri, where he repeatedly says that Mehmed Bey bin Karlı was a damad of Bayezid II.
Do you think she married Mehmed Bey bin Karlı before Çoban Mustafa Pasha? This Mehmed Bey was governor of İlbasan from 23 July 1505 to 21 March 1507, governor of Alaiye from 9 March 1509 to 15 October 1509, and governor of Vulçıtrın from 6 July 1510 to 7 December 1511. If Hümaşah had only a son with him, Hüseyin Şah Bey, this marriage could have been a short one. On the other hand, the marriage with Çoban Mustafa Pasha must have been longer since they had 4 daughters.
About Fisher’s book:
Kasim, aga of the janissaries (DaLezze*,* p. 164*);* Rustem, janissary pasha (DaLezze, p. 179); Hersekoglu Ahmed, beylerbey of Rumelia (Spanduguino, p. 170; P. Giovio, "Informatione di Paulo Giovio vescovo di Nocera, a Carlo Quinto Imperatore Auguisto” in Dell’historia universale dell’origine et imperio de Turchi [Sansovino, ed], p. 218r); and Sinan, beylerbey of Anatolia (Hammer, III, 339) were all related to Bayezid by marriage.
“DaLezze” is the Historia Turchesca whose paternity is disputed, but Italian historians say it was not written by Donato Da Lezze. In any case, I don’t have it so I can’t read what he said about these men.
So, Mehmed II died in 1481, and this note refers to when Bayezid was trying to reach Istanbul before Cem so he could claim the throne for himself.
Oztuna, in Devletler ve Hanedanlar , lists the Janissaries commanders. Between 1451 and 1515 Mehmed II had abolished the commander of the Janissaries, leaving only the segbânbaşı, that is his deputy.
Hasan Ağa (1451-), 'Abdurrahmân Ağa, Balaban Ağa, Trabzonlu Mehmed Bey, Yâ'qûb Ağa (-1462), Ramazân Ağa, Karagöz Mehmed Ağa, Ibrâhîm Ağa (1485), a different Karagöz Ağa (1497), Yûnus Ağa (1502), Balyemez 'Osmân Ağa (-1515).
It’s Selim I (in 1515) who restored the commander of the Janissaries and gave him a seat in the Divan.
Anyway, if we believe Oztuna to be accurate, there are no Kasim or Rustem during these years. The first Rustem I encountered was “Güzelce Rüstem Ağa 1531-1533”, who was a damad according to Alderson (but his source is Fisher...).
I don’t know anything about a marriage between an Ottoman princess and Qansuh II al-Ghawri, but I’ve found that Cem’s daughter Gevhermelik married An-Nasir Muhammad ibn Qaitbay in 1495.
So, the sources Alderson mentions are articles Uluçay published in Yeni Tarih Dünyası, which is a magazine and not really a scientific journal but that’s how Ottoman history was first spread in the 1950s:
Popular history journals had been a part of a widespread genre in Turkey whose growing population of readers was committed to historical knowledge rooted in nationalist Kemalist ideology and it’s advancement of a particular version of historical discourse. Such journals were published from the beginning of the twentieth century both by political parties and private owners. However they began to proliferate in the 1950s, partly as a result of the relaxation of the political system that had an effect on intellectual life in Turkey. […] Unlike strictly academic historical research, reaching a much more limited readership, popular historical texts can serve the purpose of spreading nationalist ideology to wider populations, and fulfill the need for a “history of the people”. In Turkey during the 1950s and 60s, popular historical literature was produced in the framework of the new Ottoman-centered historical discourse, and managed to reach populations of Turkish readers less exposed to academic historical discourse and less influenced by Kemalist reforms, i.e. non-elite classes. — Ruth Barzilai-Lumbroso, Turkish Men and the History of Ottoman Women: Studying the History of the Ottoman Dynasty’s Private Sphere Through Women’s Writings.
As for your last question, I think the woman accused of adultery is not the same princess who married the Mamluk sultan:
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they’re two different notes referring to two different women:
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Even without this inter-dynastic marriage between an Ottoman princess and a Mamluk Sultan (which I couldn’t confirm, not even by reading Marino Sanuto’s Diarii), there is so much information about Bayezid II’s daughters.
It was very interesting to read and research, thank you :D
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baebeylik · 4 months ago
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Born in Edirne in the Ottoman Empire in 1459, Şehzade Cem was the younger half brother of Sultan Bayezid II. The son of Mehmed II and a concubine. He was seen as a threat to his older brother’s succession. His short but eventful life was constantly at odds with that of his brother Bayezid.
In the 1470s Cem served as a governor from Konya. He served his father dutifully while Bayezid developed a reputation as an opium addict. Despite Cem’s great reputation Bayezid inherited the throne upon their father’s death.
In 1481 Mehmed II had died. Immediately his two sons, Bayezid and Cem, challenged each other for the throne. After some short battles Cem took control of the Anatolian half of the empire and Bayezid took Constantinople and the western half. Cem offered to rule the empire as a co-ruler with Bayezid, cutting the empire in two. Bayezid declined this offer and the two resumed hostilities.
That same year Bayezid’s forces defeated his younger brother and Cem was forced to flee to Egypt along with his closest followers. He rallied forces among the Karamanid Turks who bordered the Ottomans and invaded in 1482. Bayezid defeated this invasion and Cem was forced yet again to flee.
Cem fled to the island of Rhodes which was ruled by Christian knights. He had hoped that the wider Christian world would rally behind him to dispel Bayezid from the throne. Instead Cem was arrested by the knights and sent further west where he ended up in France. He was repeatedly traded as a political prisoner for the rest of his short life throughout France and eventually Italy. He died in 1495 either to poison or disease. He was only 35.
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womenoftheottomanempire · 2 years ago
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~Mahfiruze~
Mahfiruze was the mother of first - born son (Osman) of Sultan Ahmed I
She was choosen by Handan and Gevherhan Sultanas.
Altough, the mother of the second-born son, Mahpeyker Kösem recived the Haseki Sultan rank and thus Ahmed made clear that Kösem was the favorite consort, Mahfiruze didn't fell out of favor. It is possible that Mahfiruze gave birth to Şehzade Çihangir in 1609. And for sure she gave birth to şehzade Bayezid in 1612. Mahfiruze disappears from harem registers after Bayezid's birth. She possibly died due birthcomplications. Some historians suggest that she was alive during Osman's reign and died in 1629, but there is no proof that Mahfiruze was Valide Sultan.There was a rumor that Mahfiruze was beaten and exiled for irritating Kösem but it seems unlikely that a royal mother,the mother of the first-born prince would be treated so disrespectfull.The main problem of Osman II who ascended as a young boy was that he didn't have a valide who could advise him. During his reign, Osman's wetnurse ruled the harem! Even if the rumor was true, that Mahfiruze was exiled, Osman II as the current Sultan could always recall her back to the palace! Mahfiruze is burried in Eyüp Sultan Mosque and not in Ahmed's Complex, that also suggest that she died in 1612 because the complex was finished in 1616. In 1618, when Osman ascended the throne, he built a tomb for her.
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magnificentlyreused · 6 months ago
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This orange, gold and green kaftan was first worn by Şehzade Mustafa in the twenty-second episode of the second season of Magnificent Century. It was worn again by Şehzade Mehmed in the eleventh episode of the third season. The kaftan was also used on Mehmed's younger brother Şehzade Bayezid in the second episode of the fourth season.
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haber-euro-turk · 3 months ago
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II. Bayezid (1481 – 1512)
Sultan İkinci Bayezid, 3 Aralık 1448’de, Dimetoka’da doğdu. Babası Fatih Sultan Mehmed, annesi Mükrime Hatun adında bir Türk kızıdır. Uzun boylu, geniş göğüslü ve kuvvetli bir vücuda sahipti. Yüzü yuvarlak ve gözleri elâydı. Cesur ve atılgandı. Aynı zamanda çok hâlim-selim, dindar, hoşgörülü bir padişahtı. Babası Fatih Sultan Mehmed ilme ilgi duyduğu için, oğlu Şehzade Bayezid’e iyi bir eğitim…
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malbonteobsessedsworld · 9 months ago
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Mihrimah: Here's a list of things that are wrong with you
Bayezid: there's nothing on it
Mihrimah: I know
Everyone who ever know Bayezid in the background:........
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haytaogluyunus · 10 months ago
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ANMA:
BUGÜN 08 MART (1403)
OSMANLI TÜRK DEVLETİNİN
SULTANLARINDAN:
YILDIRIM BAYEZİD’İN ÖLÜM YIL DÖNÜMÜ.
RAHMETLE ANIYORUM.
I. Bayezid veya Yıldırım Bayezid (y.1360, Edirne – 8 Mart 1403, Akşehir), dördüncü Osmanlı padişahı. 1389'dan 1402 yılına kadar hükümdarlık yapmıştır.[1][2] Babası Sultan I. Murad, annesi ise Gülçiçek Hatun'dur.
Küçük yaştan itibaren zamanın seçkin âlimlerinden genel İslam eğitimi ve değerli kumandanlardan askerlik, sevk ve idare dersleri aldı. Osmanlı tarihlerinde kendisinden ilk olarak söz edilmesi, 1381'de Germiyanoğulları Beyi Süleyman Şah'ın kızı Devlet Sultan/Hatun'la evlenişi nedeniyledir. Bu evlilik babası I. Murat'ın Germiyan topraklarının neredeyse tamamını "gelin çeyizi" olarak sınırlarına katmak politikasının sonucuydu. 1381 yılında evlenişinin takip eden yıllarda devlet idaresinde yetişmesi için Sultanönü, Eskişehir ve sonra Germiyan ili Kütahya sancakları beyliğine atandı. Sancaklarının askeriyle Anadolu ve Rumeli yakalarında savaşlarda babasının safında yer aldı. 1385'te kardeşi Şehzade Savcı Bey'in, Bizans veliahdı Andronikos Paleologos ile birlikte hareket ederek ayaklanmasının bastırılışı ve Şehzade Savcı'nın gözlerine mil çekilmesi sonucu öldürülmesi olayları ile de Osmanlı tarihlerinde bahsi geçmektedir. 1389'da Sırpların çoğunluğunu oluşturduğu Haçlı ordusu ile yapılan Birinci Kosova Muharebesi'ne katıldı. Osmanlı ordusunun sağ kanadının komutanlığını yaptı; savaşta büyük kahramanlık gösterdi ve savaşın Osmanlılar tarafından kazanılmasında komutası altında bulunan Osmanlı sağ kanadının Sırplara bir karşı taarruz ile Sırp ordusunu çökertmesi çok önemli katkı sağladı. Babası Sultan Murad, bu savaş sonunda bir Sırp soylusu olan Milos Obilic tarafından öldürülünce, devlet ileri gelenlerinin müşterek kararı ile Osmanlı tahtına geçti.
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