#>Do you think Meta Knight would be mad at me if I just showed up next to the Halberd and offered his crew pizza
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>I donât know if I should be upset that someone just pranked Magolor by having 50 pizzas delivered(he isnât even home) or impressed that the company not only accepted the order with no address, but also found a delivery guy willing to go out and find me when I wasnât in my usual spot. They werenât able to take all the pizzas so now I gotta find a way to keep 47 pizzas from going to waste. Or I guess 46 if I assume Magolor is going to eat one. Calling Kirby is an option, obviously, but I should probably try sharing with more people first.
#lor speaks#lor thoughts#>I bet I could eat 46 pizzas had I the physical capability but alas#>Do you think Meta Knight would be mad at me if I just showed up next to the Halberd and offered his crew pizza
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ooh so linked to the Brienne ask re: the kingsguard part. What are your thoughts on Aerysâ kingsguard, especially like Arthur Dayne who Jaime from what I remember has complicated feelings for but pretty much idolises him. And theyâre so loved by almost everyone in universe!!! Like idk how to think about them really my feelings for them are also complicated
+ okay good because I honestly donât see why people love them so much like most of the things weâve heard about them are like. Objectively bad. And like yeah the idea of them is cool but well that can only go so far. also Iâm sorry if these asks are a mess Iâm exhausted!! ALSO I think youâre amazing for answering all of us anons with such detail I always love coming on to your blog
(putting both asks in the same place uu)
in order: the fact that they're loved by everyone in-universe and fandom actually likes them (or at least arthur dayne hahahahaha god) is like... some of george's best trolling because guess what the entire point is that they're supposed to look like amazing people/the real deal when instead they're all terrible the end - except again for the poor martell prince whom we don't know enough about and I'll give him a pass bc martell people are usually not stupid af but in order:
as I said george has made a point of stating that knighthood is a rotten institution and the kg especially aerys being like... what should be the highest honor for a knight is equally as rotten as knigthood in general and is made of people who do Not Deserve The Title - I mean again hey it's orders so marital rape is fine, hey we're leaving the 15yo to man an entire castle? WHY NOT, the king is mad? WELL WE SWORE TO SERVE HIM, like not counting martell prince there isn't one single person in the aerys kg except jaime who actually upheld the oaths they swore ie protecting the innocent so make of that what you will
the fact that jaime aka the fifteen year old is literally the only one who gets the job and then goes there like 'hey we're basically covering for marital rape what the fuck' and no one else bats an eyelid should already say everything there is to say about these people's moral standard
the fact that none of them actually stuck up for the fifteen-year old who was obviously not ready for the job nor tried to idk do anything to make it easier on him or whatever also says everything about their moral standard because honestly fuck you
the fact that everyone thinks they're amazing jaime included when they're all pretty much shitty is like... well, same as fandom does, which means that the readers bought what people in-narrative do... except that the moment you scratch the surface it's really damned bad
and I'm saying barristan is on thin ice because from his chapters you can see he's like... not a bad dude but like his reaction to jaime being in there still when he saw aerys is 'ah that fucker who killed the king and was so proud he had to try and get into it at fifteen'? like??? fuck you?? honestly the fact that all of them literally served a dude who put people on fire and was a menace/danger to the realm and then have the gall to think that jaime is the worst or who didn't like try to help him or anything while he was obv struggling with his vows and the fact that he was serving a madman says all about their moral standards, again
and honestly arthur dayne is the literal worst of all of them because like - first of all oh you knight the 15yo who goes along with you slaying bandits and you don't try to dissuade him from joining the kg? what the fucking fuck am I supposed to think - second of all you don't even warn him of what is expecting him when he joins when you've been there for a while? - but third of all which drives me insane and I hate that fandom sleeps on it and goes around happily like ARTHUR/LYANNA THE SHIP OF DREAMS... okay listen like I have literally zero investment in lyanna as a character or in r + l and I don't necessarily think he did everything - I think they had a mutual infatuation and eloped and she sorely regretted it and then it was on r. who shouldn't have like acted on it because he happened to be the 20+ year old with a wife and kids, but there's the whole tower of joy situation - in which sorry but we have arthur fucking off KL with other kg people and leaving all the others in the literal shit bc they'd have to deal with aerys and it'd be less of them than they should be, to go with rhaegar to the tower of joy to help him elope which whatever, and then lyanna was left there after r. had to go back... when her brother and father were burned alive and like if she knew that then I doubt she'd have wanted to stay and if she didn't then they withheld fairly important fucking information, so like he stayed there guarding a pregnant 15-16 yo who most likely did not want to be there and who is pregnant by his best friend whose family oh accidentally murdered half of hers........ and lyanna was there even after rhaegar died so I mean it's not like the moment he happened this dude goes and says 'hey maybe we should actually go back and see if we can solve this mess' no he kept her prisoner there anyway - on top of that... here I'm wildly speculating but: he had to know rhaegar was dead and when ned showed up if we are to believe him and idt he was unreliable on that... ned didn't want to fight him or kill him he just wanted to get his sister and leave and like he was most likely in love with ashara aka arthur's sister so why the fuck would he want to kill him right, and like rhaegar's dead and arthur has nothing to lose by letting ned up especially knowing that lyanna is fucking dying in childbirth like she's dying her brother's there just let him up and solve it later esp when the dude doesn't want to kill you....... but no ned had to kill him because he wouldn't budge and why the fucking fuck wouldn't you budge at that point? your side lost the war, the guy you were friends with that you did all of this for is dead, the girl is about to die at least let her die with her family, why? - only thing I can deduce from it: that rhaegar told him that the baby's survival was the most important thing because third head of the dragon blah blah blah and that if the war was lost to just grab the baby and lyanna if she survived and fuck off to essos until he grew up, except that lyanna didn't survive so the conclusion is that he tried to stop ned from going up there bc he'd have found out about the baby and tried to stop them and at that point who gives a fuck if lyanna died or not but he'd have liked... let her die and kill ned in the process and done that most likely, and sorry but when they knightly vows are, I would like to remind everyone, In the name of the Warrior I charge you to be brave. In the name of the Father I charge you to be just. In the name of the Mother I charge you to defend the young and innocent. In the name of the Maid I charge you to protect all womenâŚ. like... what, what exactly has this dude done that would qualify as that? because lyanna would be young and innocent and a woman and he basically is letting her die, that behavior does not qualify as bravery and he'd like... deny the kid a chance of growing up with his family period if he killed ned and he didn't seem to particularly give a fuck las we checked, and that's like not counting the whole 'oh I won't tell the 15yo who idolizes me that he's signing
his life away to trauma nor I will support him for shit when he does' part of it, but the tower of joy stuff is shady whichever way you look at it and honestly the more time passes the more I'm convinced this guy is just a complete pos and the worst of them all except gregor when it comes to like 'people thinking you're a good knight and you're actually a pos instead' and I'm dying on that hill until george proves me wrong
and on that the thing is that... I ranted about it once here but basically jaime idolizes the shit out of him because he never saw that even if his subconscious kinda knows because when he had the weirwood dream his greatest fear was confronting the former kg and everyone was accusing him of stuff he couldn't have physically prevented (more ranting on the weirwood dream here) and he's there like 'ah I wanted to be arthur dayne but I became the smiling knight instead' but like... actually he is more of a true knight than arthur dayne can ever hope to be? because like in the above meta I was talking specifically about how to pia he's like... better than arthur dayne, but like not to be that person but jaime who thinks he's the gregor clegane of his time and not arthur dayne, while arthur dayne was... doing the shady toj thing with lyanna - saved an entire city from aerys blowing it up - risked his neck for brienne even if he didn't even like her as in he got himself kicked in a healing stump when he couldn't even stand up for himself so she wouldn't be raped - risked his neck going back for her at harrenhal and jumped into the bear pit without even knowing how he'd manage it - was actually being a decent person to tommen until c. forced him to leave - the moment he saw what happened with pia he gave her her rapist's head when she's like a commoner no one gaf about and took her into her service - when his squire wanted to bed her he like told him to be kind to her jfc - is per tyrion the only relative who actually loved him/freed him/actually stuck up for him (and tysha is on tywin thank you all very much and jaime feels so great about it he doesn't think about it until he can't anymore) (also he was the one chasing the bandits away in the first place so he was probably there like oH I HELPED A MAIDEN too lmao god fuck tywin) - actually stuck for his cat vow bc he took riverrun without bloodshed - sent brienne after sansa with the magic amazing sword because he wanted to upheld their shared vow to cat going against his own family - the moment brienne shows up like hey wanna blow this joint and leave the army you don't wanna lead to find sansa he didn't even like blink before saying yes and I'm supposed to think that in between him and arthur dayne he isn't the only one who actually stuck to his vows as well as he could/knows anything about them/is actually a trueknight� because lmao the fact that jaime doesn't fancy himself one because of aerys when everyone fancies arthur dayne one when the latter did absolutely fucking nothing beyond slaying bandits to put his money where his mouth was while jaime didn't even like brand himself like that and still did all of that and half of it was acting on instinct not even like doing the math before and *he* was the one wanting to be knighted at fifteen and took his vows seriously when oh wait knightly vows are basically the epitome of selflessness is like again grrm trolling the hell out of everyone characters included but it's clear from the narrative imvho and I can't wait for the moment he serves the just desserts and a) jaime realizes it b) everyone else in-narrative realizes it c) bran timetravels to the fucking toj and we find out what actually went down there and this saint arthur narrative is burned to the ground because honestly no
there, I think I spat out almost all of my venom XD
#anonymous#ask post#janie writes meta#ch: jaime lannister#ch: arthur dayne#anti arthur dayne#spoilers: ALMOST because like#everyone writes fic abt arthurlyanna raising jon in essos being IN LOOVEEEE#which honestly... given the premises is like guys ship what you want but i'm skeptical#and then I had to stand through years of ppl bashing on joncon#for having done THE EXACT SAME THING WITH AEGON#but oh he was pathetic for that apparently#like take your not really veiled homophobia and go honestly#bc giving shit to joncon for stuff that arthur or barristan already ddi#and WORSE for that matter#(or ned lmao)#is just.... never mind it's been years i'm still pissed off#only good thing about 8x05 is that the joncon hatred sort of stopped#bc they realized he wasn't wasted ink#but yeah nvm that here you go anon#i'mma stop now
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finding something to do + kim mingyu
you had spent your better years bored with mingyu, and he thought holding your hand felt like holding his fleeting youth.
wc.4088 | almost smut, mostly fluff, friends to lovers/uni au, fem reader, that one trope where there is mutual pining but both of them think the other is gay, maybe like half an ounce of angst if you squint Really Hard, lots o swears
i usually make my fics hella neutral as far as gender and size and orientation goes but hahahaha this ones for the average sized bi girls! also just realized that i stopped using capitalization in my fics and yk what? im fine with it. this fic is based off of the song of the same name by hellogoodbye.
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âstop honking, other people live here.â
mingyu grinned at you through the half-open passenger window, leaning over to pop open the door. the handle had never recovered from a giant cup of soda crashing into the side of his ride in the middle of a particularly rowdy summer shenanigan, the sticky substance soaking into the mechanics before he had gotten the chance to hose it down in a friend's driveway at 2am. now, you had to wait for him to open it from the inside on all future shenanigans, and you could only roll the window down half way, lest you have to laugh at mingyu aggressively pulling on the window between his palms as you pulled on the motorized switch to coerce it back into the closed position. you slid into the co-pilot seat and looked over to your best friend.
"if you answered your texts i wouldn't have to honk."
you rolled your eyes, tugging on the seatbelt. "go, gyu."
he laughed and shifted into drive, turning up his stereo as he pulled away from your apartment building, hand returning to the stick to shift up a gear. "thanks for coming."
"what else was i gonna do?" you slipped the slides off your socked feet and pulled your legs to sit cross-legged. "i finished rewatching avatar."
"study, maybe?"
you looked at him. he was right, finals were right around the corner, but you had an uncharacteristically light load this quarter (due to you not realizing you needed approval for one course before registration and it filling before you could sign up) and you weren't too worried about the three tests you would have to take in a couple weeks. "could say the same to you."
mingyu let out another laugh, suddenly singing along to the song as he ran a hand through his hair. you smiled at his profile, then pulled out your phone to update your instagram story. as you moved the camera over to mingyu from the streetlight-lit road ahead of you, he laughed midway through a lyric and practically yelled "mwoya" at you, gripping the wheel with both hands and jumping in his seat.Â
you laughed hysterically, frantically saving the video before pointing the screen at him. he turned down the music to watch it, eyes flickering between your phone and the road. he laughed at the way it cut off on both of you screaming. "what was that?"
you giggled, swiping through filters. "you being dumb."
"you love me."
"you're right."
mingyu smiled at that, adjusting the stereo volume again, bobbing his head to the rhythm as he drove to the one convenience store in your town that sold his favorite mint chocolate chip ice cream, a mission he had called upon you for at 11:30pm. when it switched over to a song you knew, mingyu noticed your subconscious humming to the tune and a few lyrics falling out of your lips, the wind from the open window whipping through your hair.
by the time you reached a small parking lot across town, you had yawned probably half a dozen times.
"tired?" mingyu pouted as he rolled up the windows and unbuckled his seatbelt. "sorry for dragging you out."
you shook your head, following suit and pulling yourself out of the car. "i slept too late, i think. i'll be fine."
you followed mingyu across the quiet street to the convenience store the two of you frequented perhaps too often, finding yourself there after late night study sessions or mid-barhop for ramen, snacks, and most importantly, the mint choco ice cream bar of mingyu's affections.
after perusing the options as if you hadn't been there earlier in the week, you picked out an ice cream bar as well as a couple bags of chips. you walked up behind mingyu at the register as he was pulling out his wallet.
"i'll pay if you come over and play smash," he said, nodding at your hands full of snacks.
you eyed him. "what's the catch?"
"you can't be mad when i play meta knight."
you groaned, but put your things on the counter for the cashier that was likely the same age as you both to scan. "fine. i'll still beat you."
mingyu grinned at you, and you snagged your ice cream bar off the counter as he paid, the other snacks getting put in a plastic bag. you grabbed the bag and held it open as mingyu retrieved his own ice cream, both of you peeling them open as you exited the convenience store.
"mm," you let out, mouth full of ice cream as you leaned against the metal bar meant to lock up bikes on the sidewalk. "it's nice out tonight."
mingyu agreed, biting into his treat. "it's refreshing but not too cold."
you nodded, watching cars pass on the street. "i can't believe it's almost summer already."
"me neither," he said, squatting in front of you as he ate. "we're gonna be seniors next year."
you groaned. "have you decided if you're doing summer quarter?"
he shook his head. "i decided against it. i only really have to take one extra course next year so it didn't feel worth it."
you nodded, looking down at him. he was looking to his left, absentmindedly watching someone walk their dog across the street.
after the ice cream was finished and you threw away your wrappers, mingyu cursed slightly at the fact that he still managed to get his finger sticky despite doing his best to avoid meltage. after he popped open your door, he dug in the glovebox for some wet naps, playfully knocking your knees aside as you tried to sit. you laughed, waiting for him to be done so you could put the bag of snacks on the floor in front of you.
when you met mingyu sophomore year, your hair was shorter and he was blonde. he had sat next to you in your shared ecology lab and promptly fell asleep before the class had even started, and you had to nudge him awake when the professor was handing out the syllabus.Â
"gah, fuck, i'm up," he waved a massive hand in your face, blinking away his sleep before focusing on you with furrowed brows. "you're not seokmin."
seokmin was his roommate, you learned, and also met a few weeks later when you went over to their dorm to work on assignments together. they've since upgraded to a compact but efficient three bedroom apartment and acquired another roommate. you stared out the window into the night sky as mingyu drove to said apartment, blinking heavily at the lure of a nap. you pulled your knees up to your chest and tried to listen to the song playing from the stereo.
only moments later, mingyu glanced over and noticed that your eyes had fluttered shut, your head lolling against the window. he wondered, staring at you in awe, how much longer he could pretend he wasn't in love with you.
when you and mingyu had first gotten to know each other, you admittedly had a bit of a crush on him, until you found out he had a boyfriend. even after they split almost four months later, and you had been there to bring him chicken and beer while he fumbled with the drawstrings of his sweatpants and rubbed his swollen eyes with the back of his hand, you decidedly resigned any feelings for him, knowing it was a lost cause for you to pine after a guy that didn't even like girls. hell, you barely even liked boys - you had gone on dates with six different girls, yet not a single guy since you came to university, and mingyu had sat on your bed while you tried to get ready, giving a concise "try again" when you showed him an oversized sweatshirt.
"why not this?" you asked, groaning.
"you have good proportions, bitch. show 'em off."
rolling your eyes, you rooted around in your closet for something less shapeless. your style had always skewed a little athletic, a little hip-hop. you bought mostly mens fit shirts, making the task slightly more difficult. you found a nice pair of high waisted jeans you hadn't worn in a while and paired it with a drop shoulder tee and a turtleneck, finally getting the approval of your best friend.
all of the facts laid in front of him led mingyu to believe you were completely and utterly gay, and even if you weren't, your taste in women suggested he was the exact opposite of your type. you liked petite girls. girls with long hair and that wore skirts and lots of rings. the kind of girls that you had to lean down to kiss.Â
so he continued to try out the pool of eligible bachelors in your area that were within a respectable age range. he had even tried to date some girls, but every time they tried to suggest the dates go further, he would think of the way his best friend's fingers had sent electricity through his entire body just by brushing an eyelash off his lip, or how you would trace the veins that ran through his wrist as you watched a movie together on your couch. the way your touch set his skin on fire. the way he wished he could just admit the way he felt about you.Â
he always smiled and said he'd call them sometime. he never did. it wasn't fair to them, but neither was him only ever asking them out because they reminded him of you somehow.
guys were easier, he thought. they didn't remind him of you.
mingyu was so caught up in the sight of you sleeping that he absolutely ran a red. he cursed under his breath when he realized the light he was passing under had been yellow for longer than he had thought, thinking how lucky he was that the cross street was empty. good thing he was almost home.
"hey, sleepyhead," he said when you stretched suddenly as he pulled into his parking spot. "do you wanna go home?"
you shook your head, yawning. "no, i need to eat chips."
he laughed and killed the engine. "you left a pair of house shorts here and you can borrow a shirt," he said, suggesting you crash in his bed when you got too tired for smash.
"what, you don't wanna carry me home?"
mingyu slammed the car door shut and shoved his hand in his pocket. "i'd rather not, no."
you stretched again, a hand reaching out to ruffle his dark hair as he tried to punch in the door code for you to enter his building. "mean."
he laughed at you again, leading you up the three flights of stairs to his apartment.
"hey, minghao," you said, waving at the shadowy figure that was seemingly melting into the couch, illuminated by the tv.
he raised a hand in acknowledgment, sitting with his neck at a 90 degree angle, a movie with subtitles on, and his phone face down on his chest. "yo."
"wanna play smash?" mingyu asked.
"no thanks."
mingyu dropped his keys on the kitchen counter. "we're playing smash."
"you're funny."
you laughed, and mingyu pouted. "please, myungho?"
minghao finally looked at his roommate. "i'm watching annihilation. the switch is handheld for a reason."
you watched mingyu roll his eyes with a smirk on your lips. he went over to the switch dock by the tv and grabbed the console, sticking his tongue out at hao. you giggled, following mingyu down the short hall to his room as minghao waved you both off.
"have i said that i like hao a lot?"
"yes," mingyu said. "like, every time you come over."
you smiled, throwing open his dresser and carding through the shirts that would surely be massive on you. "well i do."
the switch got tossed onto his bed and he sneaked around you to grab a pair of sweatpants from the drawer above the one you were looking in. he also pulled out the pair of shorts you had left, putting them on top of the dresser. "i'm getting naked now."
you shook your head lightly, knowing he was only changing his pants, but kept your back to him out of respect anyways. you picked up the shorts. "did you wash these?"
"yeah, i threw 'em in with my laundry last week."
you nodded, spotting the color you had been looking for. "aha!" you pulled on the ashy gray shirt, revealing one of your favorite things you had ever convinced mingyu to buy. an extremely soft, lightly distressed shirt with a tasteful rip along the neckline. "i'm getting naked now."
"clear," mingyu said, letting you know he wasn't looking as he flopped onto his bed, propping up the switch on his bedside table and setting up the controllers.
you pulled off your loose sweatshirt and swapped it for the borrowed shirt, then shoved the denim shorts down your legs, laughing lightly at how your sleep shorts completely disappeared under the shirt. you turned around, stretching out your arms to show how large the shirt was on you. "look."
mingyu rolled onto his back and propped himself on an elbow to look at you, giggling as you swam in his shirt. outwardly, he smiled, but internally, he thought this was simultaneously the worst and best idea he had ever had.
you looked absolutely stunning in his clothes, he thought, but only said that you were cute. he ignored the familiar feeling in his stomach and handed you a controller as you crawled onto his bed, settling on your stomach next to him.
he had to stop putting himself in this position. you were far too pretty for him to forget his feelings towards you.
but maybe that's what he wanted. maybe he didn't want to forget his feelings. maybe the few times you had told him his dates were attractive weren't just objective reassurances. maybe he held onto the sliver of hope that you could possibly be attracted to him, too.
you slammed your face into the bed as the game loaded. "why are all switch load times utter ass?"
mingyu adjusted so that he was laying on his side with an arm propping him up and flicked the back of your head. "because the console can fit in my palm."
your hand went up to swat at the culprit of the flick, and you pouted as you lifted your head to look at him. "that's not fair, your hands are huge." you wiggled onto your elbows to grab his wrist, pressing your palms together. "see?"
mingyu laughed, feeling his cheeks heat up. "well, you have baby hands, so." he punctuated his point by curling his finger over yours. you pouted again, then slipped your fingers between his, thinking about how nice his warm hand felt over yours.
you blinked, then pulled your hand away and grabbed the joycon as the game finally loaded the skippable intro, hoping you weren't blushing too much as you cleared your throat. mingyu stared at your pink cheeks for a moment, his mind reeling. was he seeing something that wasn't there? or was his hope in you validated?
you were clicking through the menu and felt his eyes on you, and all you wanted to do was hide behind your hair and avoid eye contact. you nearly jumped when mingyu cleared his throat.
"hey, i have something i've been meaning to ask you."
your eyes met his briefly. "shoot."
"do youâŚ" mingyu paused, trying to think of the right way to phrase his question. "i know you have exes that are guys, but is that something you're, like⌠still into?"
your ears burned and you wiggled until you could sit back on your own legs, fiddling with the hem of the shirt you stole and hesitating to make eye contact. "you mean, being with guys?"
"yeah," he said, watching you intently with his brows furrowed.
"yeah, i mean, i guess?" you shrugged. "i like both."
mingyu nodded slowly, watching your eyes as they stared at the wall across his small room. your cheeks were a rosy pink, and you were chewing on your lip. "me too."
you looked at him finally, your eyes wide. "what?"
he gave you a crooked smile. "i like guys and girls, too."
if you were blushing before, now you were blazing. "oh, my god, i'm an idiot."
he laughed. "what, did you think i was, like, totally gay?"
"shut up," you threw yourself down onto his bed, hiding your face in the blanket. in your defense, he had definitely called himself gay before, but you definitely called yourself gay constantly, so maybe you shouldn't put so much weight in those words. "shut up, i'm embarrassed. i don't want to talk about it."
hearing mingyu laugh next to you made you feel like you were on fire, then you felt the ghosting of fingers on your arm. you froze. mingyu's voice was soft when he spoke again. "do you wanna talk about how i have a massive crush on you?"
you slowly raised your head to look at him, cheeks burning red. he gave you a small smile before you choked out a "huh?"
"i ran a red earlier," he said suddenly, his fingers moving from your arm to absentmindedly brush your hair out of your face, then to your shoulder, then back. it was a reassuring touch, one you had felt from him before, but you still were caught off guard by his sudden succession of confessions. "you were sleeping and i couldn't stop looking at you. i totally could have crashed the car."
"dude, what the fuck." you stared at him, then lowered your voice to imitate him. "'hey i have a crush on you and i almost killed us both because of it.' that's you, that's what you sound like right now."
mingyu laughed in your face and you couldn't help the chuckle that fell out of your mouth. "sorry i almost killed us."
"i guess i can forgive you," you said, picking at your nails suddenly despite them being clean. "especially because i might have a crush on you, too."
mingyu kept staring at you with a fond smile, and you wondered if he could also hear how hard your heart was beating. "can i kiss you?"
you looked at him, trying not to stare at his lips. you nodded, almost hurriedly. his hand pulled against your back as you rolled your body to face him, and your hand reached out for his jaw as he pulled you into him. and when his lips crashed into yours, you yelped slightly, melting into him almost immediately. they were plush against yours, and he was gentle as he pushed your back onto the mattress, adjusting to hover over you slightly. when you let your head fall back onto the bed, he grinned at your blown out pupils and swollen lips, buzzing at the way your hands curled around around his neck, fingers digging into the hair at his nape. he adjusted again, a hand finding your waist as he pulled back to let you swing your leg across his lap. you pulled him back over you, enjoying the way his hips hit the back of your thighs as he caged you in with an elbow by your shoulder. you stared up at him, heart racing, eyes flicking down to his lips too many times for him to not take the hint.
mingyu had always enjoyed pleasing you. this definitely felt like the next natural progression.
he dove into you, and your arms wrapped themselves around his shoulders. mingyu was a hugger, and he also liked wearing very little clothing when he worked out, so you knew what he looked like under the plain white tee. knew what he felt like. but suddenly - with his hands slipping under what was technically his shirt to properly feel your waist, with how his tongue fought with yours - you really felt him for the first time. the way his shoulder muscles rippled just beneath the skin as he adjusted, clearly trying to not make his growing bulge so obvious. you considered the fact that you might get to see how much leg day really benefited, considering how much he posted about it with sweaty post-workout pictures on his story.
mingyu felt your thighs squeeze around his hips, pulling back slightly. "is this okay?"
"is it?" you responded, a hand pulling back to fall on his jaw. "i've wanted you for ages."
he laughed lightly. "god, we're idiots."
you had no time to respond before he was kissing you again, his hips rolling into yours, pulling a surprised moan from you. he ate it up, his fingers gripping your waist tighter at the sound. you felt his girth as it pressed against you, and you gasped. when was the last time you had been with a guy? high school?
when mingyu's teeth bit down on your lip, you were really glad he was the guy you were unconsciously waiting for.
he tugged on your hips as he rolled onto his back, pulling you to straddle his lap. you giggled slightly, settling back into the open mouthed kisses as he ran his hands from your ass up your back, slipping under the sports bra you were wearing.
then there was a knock. you yelped, burying your face in his shoulder as you heard the door swing open. "make room for king k r- oh shit!"
you laughed into mingyu's neck as he yelled for seokmin to get the hell out, his hands tugging the hem of the stolen shirt over your butt in an attempt to shield it from view. you heard him squeak out an "i'm sorry!" as the door shut again.
"i'll kill him."
you exhaled, the laughter still on your lips as you looked at his profile from where your cheek pressed against his shoulder. "bet he thinks we're secretly dating."
mingyu laughed, scratching an eyebrow before returning his palm to your ass. "not a secret now."
"oh, so we're dating now?"
mingyu craned his neck to look at you. "is that not what was going to happen?"
you giggled, sitting up and putting your hands on his chest. you adjusted your knees, fully aware of how the movement would rub you against his still hard bulge. "we have both fucked people without dating them afterwards, kim mingyu."
"ah," he said, digging his fingers into your soft ass and rutting into you gently, making you gasp. "we're gonna fuck? i thought we were just joking."
you slapped his chest, giggling still as you rolled your hips. "if you don't wanna, i could ask hao-"
"oh, shut up," he said, pulling you down to kiss him. "if you liked myungho like that you would have tried it ages ago."
you smiled, your thumb running over his adams apple as you placed gentle kisses on his jaw. "sweetie, are we jealous?"
"i don't deserve this, you know?" mingyu pulled your hips against him again, a low grunt tumbling from his beautiful mouth. "i haven't put my dick in a girl since i met you and now i'm with you and you're talking about my roommate? this seems extremely mean."
you giggled again, then placed your lips on his again. he instantly kissed you back, one hand leaving your ass to go to the back of your neck. "you're the only guy i ever think about," you whispered, getting repeatedly interrupted by mingyu's needy lips on yours.
the wolf-like grin that broke onto his face sent chills down your spine. "let's keep it that way."
*
seokmin's hand was still on the doorknob, his wide eyes blinking, when minghao paused his movie and sat up to poke his head out and look down the hall. "the hell was that?"
he puffed out his cheeks as he walked back into the living room, his palms clapping gently. "i thought you said y/n came over to play smash?"
minghao's eyebrow quirked up. "she did."
the eldest sat on the couch. "i thought mingyu was gay?"
"what?" minghao looked down the hall again. "wait, what? were they-" he stopped when he heard a muffled groan that was far too familiar.
seokmin grabbed the remote and pressed play, scratching his cheek as he turned up the volume. "what are we watching? catch me up."
#97 line is back#aka my favorite friendship dynamic i love them#honestly all the age groupings in svt are so good i love all of them a ton#honestly any grouping in svt is. one of my faves#like all of them#why are they perfect for each other this is so sickening#ok lets do real tags now#seventeen imagines#seventeen scenarios#seventeen smut#seventeen fluff#kim mingyu imagines#kim mingyu scenarios#mingyu imagines#mingyu scenarios#mingyu smut#mingyu fluff#i love he a lot#puppy#i wrote dis
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Hi so I came across your Femto punishing both Guts and Casca meta and even tho I kinda like it I found myself at odds with a part of it.
I think punishing Casca and feeling mad she picked Guts over him and considered leaving him wasn't really a consideration at all. In the thoughts he has after the weird trippy hallucination thing they put him through during the eclipse his only thoughts are about Guts. How he was the only one who made Griffith forget his dream. And when he forgot this torture happened and his body was broken.
Guts was the one he risked life for by going to save him from Zod. Guts was the one who managed to get close to him despite his attempts to keep his distance from his men. Griffith was at that point after all only human. Humans need close relationships which he was denying himself and that led to his overattachment to the one he had which caused him to end up in the situation he got tortured in. He had to blow off steam he was so upset by Guts leaving and the concept alone made his fight with Guts more erratic.
But Casca leaving isn't reflected on at all during the Eclipse. Griffith said once that a true equal was what he considered a friend and while he was talking to a royal at the time that might still be true. Griffith who was human, and despite being in denial about it, craved friendship.
An equal who didn't leave him might be something he wanted. But Femto who has thrown away his humanity doesn't want a friend he doesn't want a equal. A power play is required to prove that Guts is beneath him. He needs to disempower Guts to feel empowered. To feel that Guts isn't a equal that Guts is beneath him.
The scene where he pushes down Casca is a parallel because it is also about power but in a different way. The sequence of events is Griffith asks Guts to put on his armor he wants to be able to put it on fight again. Guts obliges excited to see Griffith recover.
Elsewhere Casca is told he will never recover enough to hold a sword again. A demon attacks them rips off Griffiths armor and mocks him and his group over how he's already broken. Afterwards Griffith hears his group come apart as they come to terms about his condition. Casca berates Guts for expecting that recovery when it not possible which Griffith also hears.
Griffith then pushes Casca down I think because Casca used to be someone he was stronger than her. It's just a desperation to show he has even a bit of the strength he used to possess.
He manages to stay in the position she doesn't try to push him off he doesn't try to do anything and just puts his effort in maintaining position. Flopping on her and groping would probably be less physical effort but I don't think that what he trying to do . His mouth is open like he's trying to say something but no words come out. She hugs him pulling him close and as he's no longer holding up his own body weight his trembling stops.
I think its supposed to contrast with Femto later and his mentality in this moment vs that one.
The first scene with Casca is desperation to show he has even a bit of the strength he used to possess. That it'd not over for him.
The second one where he attacks Casca in front of Guts is to show no one is equal to him everyone is beneath him. Guts is beneath him. In this world where Griffith reigns Guts has no power to stop anything to do anything and he wants to mock and hurt Guts. That it's his time to rule.
When Griffith is rescued his immediate reaction is to lash out attack Guts. He is mad at Guts for leaving because in his mind Guts leaving led to this. But it only led to this because Griffith cared enough about him that he would be upset at not having Guts around. Its because they were friends. So when he sees Guts crying over him that anger dissappears and he puts his hands on Guts hand in a almost comforting gesture. He can't go as far with his anger or hatred because he loves and cares too.
Which is why that first scene with Casca is only her being pinned. He wouldn't go that far because even if he doesn't see her as a equal he still gives a shit. Its why he attempts to move to her when she attacked by demons after they escape with him. Maybe he wouldn't even consider doing something like what Femto does to her.
But that caring and giving a shit is the humanity he gives up. Femto still has emotions he had feelings Griffith used to have. If he didn't making Guts feel disempowered wouldn't matter. The idea of Guts as a equal in anyway wouldn't occur. Femto is just that anger and rage he felt when he tried to strangle Guts without the caring he felt when he put his hand on Guts hand.
Casca only mattered when Griffith cared about people who he thought he was stronger than. When he sacrificed that Casca ceased to matter. She was never a target of his anger or frustration. But Guts continued to matter. Because Guts was a target of that. He wants the target of his frustration to suffer, and he knows this will make him suffer.
Just my opinion thought I'd share. Still love your meta tho!
Well, damn, thatâs a long ask. xDD Next time, just reblog and add your thoughts, I also answer that way, hahaha!
Also, not sure which post of mine youâre referring to, by the way. Iâm thinking this one, but I honestly canât be sure because I also reblogged posts on the subject?
Anyway, if I sum up your take: Griffith was out to punish Guts only and not Casca, because Guts >>> Casca in terms of significance as far as Griffith is concerned?Â
Thank you for your input :) but see, I disagree, because this is exactly why I once said that...
I donât understand why some fans somehow reduce Berserkâs plot to being about Guts vs Griffith, Casca often becoming some random secondary character. For me, no matter how you look at the series ever since the Golden Age, it just ainât the case. :))
However, all I ever wrote was that Griffith punished both of them; I never implied that their âbetrayalâ amounted to the same significance for Griffith, because itâs indeed not the case.
After all, as you said, we know Guts always had a bigger impact on Griffith since the day they met...
...but, while we will never know for sure, I for one am quite convinced that if Casca (who was Griffithâs right-hand woman) was the one who had left in the same fashion as Guts, it would have triggered Griffith in a similar way.Â
Because Griffith is a man of influence: he knows that and how to use such charisma on others. Thatâs why he totally means the words he said to Charlotte about what kind of people he would see as a friend. So he uses peopleâs feelings for him in a way that would serve the path to achieving his dreams. Casca herself said that, as a leader after he was gone, all she did was "try to protect the dream of someone who might not even be aliveâ.Â
The Band of the Falcon lived and worked to help Griffith achieve his dream, because they saw him as special, since they had no achievable big dream of their own (kinda why Griffith said theyâre not âfriendsâ).Â
So yeah sure, Gutsâ actions would always leave a bigger impact on Griffith, as you showed he said it himself, but Casca falling in love with Guts and envisioning a future far away from Griffithâs schemes still clearly stung.Â
After all, everyone in the group knew of Cascaâs unrequited feelings for Griffith, meaning that Griffith obviously knew too and, instead of telling her it would never happen, he entertained the possibility so that Casca would entirely devote herself to him.
Take Judeau, as a counterexample: he too had some feelings for Casca, but he urged Guts several times to take her with him and away from the group, because he couldnât stand her unhappiness. Griffith said nothing about her feelings, because he knew thatâs how Casca would do everything for his sake.Â
Still, Casca was not any random member of his Band so, when she emancipated from Griffith by falling in love with Guts, in my opinion itâs why...
...she also was on the receiving end of his jealousy.Â
Itâs distasteful but, otherwise, why did Femto rape Casca instead of killing her? Again, we will never know, but if Guts had left Griffith behind for a future with any other random girl, I think Femto would have just killed her in front of Guts. Raping Casca, when she used to long for Griffithâs affection, was revenge against both of them for choosing each other instead of him and his dream.Â
You can see it in the way he stared at both of them so many times, coming to the realization that he was not at the center of their little trio anymore. So yeah, Guts > Casca in terms of significance since day 1 as far as Griffith is concerned, I never discussed that, but Casca was not such a random member of Griffithâs band either that her actions of emancipation would not taste bitter to him. Thatâs my opinion. :)
Additional points: I never said he was trying to grope her in that scene when he fell on top of her as she was changing his bandages, just that âhe was trying to gauge or reenact Cascaâs old devotion to him by showing some affectionâ.
And finally, Femto who was entirely reborn as a Godhand has no emotion left about Guts or Casca, he said it himself. Thinking heâs only anger and revenge would be confusing Femto with the Skull Knight or Guts as the Black Swordsman.
Friendly reminder that Femto is not human anymore so, while Griffith thrived on thinking that he didnât bother with overwhelming bonds to anyone and that only his dream ever mattered, it is actually the case for Femto.Â
I hope I answered your points. Thanks for reading and have a nice day Anon! :))
#berserk#guts#griffith#casca#gutsca#femto#berserk theory#anon#answers#my analysis#tw: rape mention#not gonna lie i'm not a fan of people thinking berserk is about dudebros' clash of ego#when the entire story since vol 22 has been about Guts being afraid for Casca and trying to find her the best hiding place#sure SK then told him Casca could be brought back but Guts never envisioned goingafter the Godhand again ever since#he even literally told Zodd to fuck off even tho Grif was super near because Casca's safety was way more important to him#even right now Griffith is not chasing after Guts : he's out there building his empire like he always wanted
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The first to react was Kine.
âHey~! Water! Itâs the sound of water!â
âWhereâs the sound coming from?!â
Kirby and co. surveyed the area.
âThe treeâs roots!â Kine shouted. âThe water's coming out of the treeâs roots!â
From the roots of the Dreamstalk, in the lake, clean water gushed out. Not only the water, but the Dreamstalk itself was changing. The trunk and leaves were dull colors, but, in the blink of an eye, it became a bright green.
âLook!â Kirby yelled. âThe Dreamstalkâs all better now!â
âBecause Pirkaâs heart has been cleared,â Coo said, âthe spellâs effects have disappeared. Which meansâŚâ
Coo got cut off by a sudden voice.
âHuh? Where am I? Why am I here?...â
It was King Dedede.
Looking as if he had just woken up from sleep, he looked around. Meta Knight was also returning to normal.
âWhat happened? Why is water flowing out of the roots of-â
Meta Knight looked at the group one by one, and, in the end, stopped on Pirka. He seemed to have pieced together what had happened. He sighed, and picked up his treasured sword Galaxia again.
âIt seems that King Dedede and I, possibly, were being controlled. Sorry.â
âWhat? I donât remember anything about being controlled!!â King Dedede insisted.
âDonât you remember?â Rick asked. âYou sent me flying with your hammer!!â
âWait, what?â
King Dedede shifted his focus. His sharp gaze caught Pirka.
âYou did this, didnât you!?!â
âWait, Dedede!"
Kirby stood in front of the great king and spread his arms out to block him.
âItâs over already! Pirkaâs our friend now!â
âWhat do you mean sheâs our friend now!? What an insult to someone as great as myself!!â
âI told you itâs over!!â
âOut of my way, Kirby!!â
King Dedede, looking absolutely furious, swung his hammer. Kirby nimbly dodged.
âHey, thatâs it,â he said, âletâs play tag!â
âWhaat?!â
âKing Dededeâs it! Everyone, run!â
Kirby started running. Rick, Gooey, and Pirka ran in different directions.
âHeyyy! This isnât a game of taaag! Iâm getting really mad right now!!â
King Dedede, absolutely furious, chased after Pirka. Pirka was fast, but she was no match for the king, who was making a serious effort. In the blink of an eye, he caught her.
âGet ready, you pesky pixie!â
He was about to squeeze her, but Kirby tackled him.
âThatâs enough! Pirkaâs it next!â
âYeah, I know!â
âRUN AWAAAY!â Pirka screamed.
Kirby started running. Even King Dedede got caught up in the fun and ran.
âWhy am I���?â he said. âI shouldnât be playing stupid games like tag. Iâm really mad right now, so-â
As he said that, when Pirka started drawing near, the great king picked up in speed.
âWho would get caught by a loser like you!? Not me!!â
âWaaaait!â
As Pirka chased after the king and Rick, before they knew it, a loud laugh filled the air. Before everyone ran around, the lake had been filling up with more and more water.
âClean water~!â Kine said. âListen, Coo, do you think this waterâs fine to swim in?â
âPerhaps,â Coo said, âwith the shadow cast over Pirkaâs heart gone, the Dreamstalk has regained its original power. This water should be pure and unpolluted.â
âIs this the same water that Kirby sucked up~? Are Kirbyâs stomach and the Dreamstalk connected? Umm⌠ummâŚ?â
No matter much he thought about it, it was impossible to understand. Kirbyâs stomach was full of mysteries. So, Kine stopped thinking about it and jumped into the lake. As he swiftly swam around, he called out:
âFeels great~! This lakewater is super clean!â
âIt appears the situation has been resolved,â Meta Knight said, âI was far from able to help. I was holding everyone backâŚâ
âNo,â Coo said, âif you two hadnât fallen under her control, we wouldâve caught Pirka much sooner. If that had happened, Pirka wouldnât have been able to have a change of heart. In the end, we were very lucky to have struggled.â
â...though Iâm hesitant to admit it, that is correct.â
Meta Knight nodded his head, then raised his voice:
âCome, letâs return to land soon.â
Kirby and the others, who heard this, stopped playing tag and gathered.
âPirka, letâs go together!â Kirby said to Pirka.
âHuh? No, I...â
Pirka shook her head.
âDonât worry,â Rick said, âof course weâre not gonna spill all the details to everyone. Weâll just tell them that we worked together with you to solve the problem up here.â
âThanks, but Iâm going to return to the village I came from, not Dream Land.â
Pirka looked at everyone.
âI havenât gone back since I was exiled, but I still want to see everyone there. I must apologize to the children I had controlled. I donât know if I could ever accept forgiveness, but⌠this time, I will try to become their friend.â
Pirkaâs eyes were brightly sparkling.
âIs that so?â
Kirby nodded his head.
âWell then, farewell, Pirka! But, since weâre your friends, remember to come visit us here in Dream Land sometimes!â
âThanks. I am truly grateful, Kirby.â
Pirka tightly held Kirbyâs hand.
âGoodbye, everyone!â
âGoodbye, Pirka. See you later!â
Pirka spread her transparent wings and took off over the lake.
âNow then,â Meta Knight said, âlet us return to the small boat.â
âOkie dokie!â
âBack to the painfully cramped boat again, huh?â King Dedede said as they walked to the small boat. âGreat⌠hmm?â
Noticing Gooey unsteadily walking beside him, Dedede groaned.
âWhy are you coming with us? Gooey!â
âHuhhhh?â
Gooey looked at the king in surprise.
âBecause I wanna go home.â
âDidnât you fly your way here?! You can go back by yourself!â
âNah. Iâm tired after all that fighting.â
âThereâs no room for you!â
âThere is~!â
âIf I say there isnât, then there isnât!â
...somehow or other, all seven of them boarded the small boat, getting jam-packed in.
The small boat landed on the shore of the Rainbow Islands. Everyone who had been eagerly waiting for the return of Kirby and the others gathered at once. Captain Vul and the Meta-Knights greet Meta Knight, the first to get down, with cheers of joy.
âLord Meta Knight! Youâre safe!â
âIndeed. The operation was a success,â Meta Knight plainly informed. The Rainbow Islandsâ inhabitants, surrounding the small boat, resounded.
âJust as one would expect from Lord Meta Knight!â Captain Vul shouted excitedly. âWith Lord Meta Knightâs power, the Rainbow Islands were saved! Everyone should be grateful!â
âNo, Captain Vul. It wasnât my power.â
Meta Knight didnât seem to want to be thanked, but Captain Vul didnât understand.
âOh! Someone as heroic as Lord Meta Knight would never show off his own accomplishments! What modesty! Everyone should follow his example!â
âAye!â
The Meta-Knights were in high spirits.
âI knew I could count on Lord Meta Knight!â
âIâm so sorry I couldnât accompany you!â
âI wish I couldâve seen Lord Meta Knightâs efforts!â
âPlease let us hear the whole story later!â
â...â
Meta Knight became more silent than usual. After King Dedede got down from the small boat, all the Waddle Dees simultaneously sprung up in celebration.
âHurraaaay, hurraaay!â
âHurray for His Majesty!â
Just like Meta Knight, the king had been under Pirkaâs control. However, he held no shame about it.
âOf course,â he said, proudly puffing up his chest with pride, âprepare for a barbeque on the beach! Grill the meat and vegetables! Donât forget the marshmallows! Set up my parasol and beach chair!â
âYes, Great King!â
Bandana Waddle Dee handed the king his life preserver and sunglasses. The king was in the mood for a vacation.
âLetâs get this party started! A beach party, Dedede-style!â the great king shouted in high spirits, when, suddenly, the area became dark, and then raindrops started falling.
âWow, rain!â the islanders shouted with joy.
âHurray! Itâs been forever since weâve gotten rain here!â
Their faces lit up, as they merrily frolicked around in the rain. Kirby, Rick, Kine, Coo, and Gooey got down from the small boat. Pick dashed up to Rick and embraced him.
âWelcome home, Rick! You really did it! Itâs raining again!â
âThanks to your lucky charm!â
Mine, seeming happy, cuddled up to Kine.
âKine, did you get hurt?â
âIâm A-OK! I did my best for you~!â
âI know. I knew that if anyone could make it rain again, itâd be you!â
Pick and Mine, along with a large number of islanders, crowded around the group.
âThanks, Kirby,â Pick said, âyou saved the Rainbow Islands.â
âGooey saved your island. We just helped him!â Kirby said. As he did, the islanders started clapping loudly.
âThanks, Gooey!â they shouted.
Gooey, who was not very good at being all sunny and radiant, waved his tongue shyly. The rain steadily evolved into a downpour, dampening the dry ground. The once dried-up lakes and rivers filled up with water again. The fish jumped in with great energy. Of course, the only one on the joyous island who had become sulky at this sight was King Dedede.
âUghhhhhhhâŚâ
His plans of vacation had been ruined.
âWho had to make it rain!?â he yelled with a bitter-sounding voice.
âUm⌠you did, Your MajestyâŚâ
âWait, youâre right! Ughhhhhhh⌠I HATE THE RAAAAAAAIN!!â
The violent sound of rain drowned out the kingâs laments.
The rain continued for the whole day, moistening the dried-up Rainbow Islands.
The next morningâŚ
As the rain stopped, the morning sun shone down on the Rainbow Islands. Kirby and Bandana Waddle Dee, who had woken up early, walked to the sandy beach.
âI knew you could do it, Kirby,â Bandana Waddle Dee yelled, âthe withered flowers are all better now!â
âWe all worked together to get the job done!â
âI wish I couldâve gone with you tooâŚâ
âYou couldâve gone with us if Meta Knightâs small boat was just a bit bigger.â
Kirby and Bandana Waddle Dee agilely jumped over a puddle of water.
âTell me about what kind of adventure it was! What was above the clouds?â
At Bandana Deeâs question, Kirby sweetly smiled.
âItâs a secret!â he said.
âHuh? Why?â
âNo matter what!â
âOh, tell me, Kirby!â
âNuh-uh!â
It was a secret that he couldnât even tell a close friend like Bandana Dee. Bandana Dee seemed disappointed, but then, suddenly, he noticed something and yelled:
âKirby, look! The Rainbow Bridge!â
From island to island, pretty Rainbow Bridges connected. Due to the lack of rain, the bridges had begun to fade away into nothing. Thanks to the rain returning after so long, the seven bright colors sparkled.
âWoahâŚâ
âHow nice!â
As the light of the morning sun intensified, the Rainbow Bridgesâ colors grew prettier and prettier. As they basked in the refreshing breeze, the two would forever admire the Rainbow Bridges.
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#kirby#rick (kirby)#pick (kirby)#kine#mine (kirby)#coo#meta knight#king dedede#bandana waddle dee#gooey#pirka#captain vul#mace knight#trident knight#Kirby: Save the Rainbow Islands!#kirby light novel#translations#that illustration with dedede and gooey just. doesn't exist in the ebook for some reason#i edited the translators picture but it must've been taken out in a later itieration#very strange..
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Hm...
Thinking about that time someone literally copied one of gijinka designs for social clout, then just flat out denied it when I called them out.
At the time, I had buckled under the belief that âIâm probably being paranoid. Thereâs so few notes on this thing, and itâs so old, thereâs probably no way they would have seen it.â and I had deleted the call-out.Â
Honestly, I still get really aggravated when I feel like someone is âstealingâ from me (and it happens a little more than youâd probably think), but I just donât feel justified in calling anyone out because itâs mostly with fanart, and neither of us are profiting from it, so neither of us have anything to lose or gain from it except a bigger number next to a little heart icon.
I guess what upsets me about it is them getting recognition for something that isnât theirs. I put in the work to make the thing, but they get to knock it off and get even more recognition from it? Thatâs just unfair. But in a way, all fanart is like that, right? It just seems more okay to do it when itâs a character from a company or something, because theyâre not really being *hurt* by fanworks but hurts when fanartists copy other fanartists because we occupy the same space and thus are in competition with each other.
Tangent aside, my feelings basically boil down to: âAm I really gonna start drama with someone for saying they stole the design of a character neither of us ownâ? At the time, Iâd decided, âno,â so I just kinda let it go. There really wasnât anything for either of us to lose or gain by pushing it further.
But I recently saw them getting called out for other shit, so I got reminded of that incident.
I 99% believe that they stole the design from me, but because they made their design more âwokeâ and maybe because I didnât watermark my original one, that somehow made it âokayâ for them to do.
I donât really wanna start shit now because itâs been over 2 years since it happened, but I would just feel a little better if the âproofâ was out there. Iâm not gonna repost their art here, but if you go to my main blog, @gamebunny-color-spâ and search âkirby character designâ, Iâm sure youâll find what Iâm talking about if youâre really that invested in this tale of mine.
That said, I am going to talk about the differences between the two like youâve seen theirs already.
Now, Iâll concede that puffy sleeves/shorts is a kind of obvious thing to do for a Kirby gijinka. Heâs a round ball made of smaller balls, and those very easily translate into âpuffyâ features. And big olârubber boots is another easy way to translate his feet. Iâm not gonna be mad at every Kirby gijinka that has puffy sleeves and boots.
But why the cape? No Kirby forms really wear a cape unless you wanna count Meta Knight, but he wears his very differently. My reasoning was that, besides the hat, I wanted him to have something that would show his copy ability. Itâs actually a carry-over from an even earlier version of the design Iâd made where I actually played with that idea.
But you know, a cape still isnât an *uncommon* design choice. Itâs basically a staple of the hero archetype, so whatever. A cape doesnât necessarily mean that they got the idea from me.
But what gets me, is the yellow stripe motif. I donât think thereâs *ANYWHERE* that Kirby is associated with yellow stripes, or stripes at all for that matter, and yet (un)coincidentally, both of our designs have them.
When I first started making gijinkas, I really just did whatever I wanted without too much concern for if it actually fit (arguably, I still do that *cough*bigtittyrob*cough*). You can see that in this old timeline I had made, chronicling my iterations of this design.
Why was my first thought to give him blue accents? Who knows. But itâs also where the yellow stripe on his cape started and had carried over to each new design, just because I liked it and thought that it still went with the yellow star motif that Iâd added. So for me, it was just an evolution of my bad design choices getting better.
But, if you didnât already start with the stripe motif, why would your Kirby have stripes at all? And itâs not like stripes are uncommon. I realize that. But thereâs just no logical progression to it unless you just happen to think in the same stupid ways that I do/did. If you wanted to accent the cape, wouldnât you just add it like a border, like I did with my first 2 designs? Or add more star motifs to it? Why the stripes? And why add 2 except to make it seem more different than mine? Thereâs other little things, but I think my point is clear: there were just too many âcoincidencesâ for this to not have been a case of plagiarism.
Like I mentioned earlier, Iâm coming out with all this because the person in question got called out on a pretty vicious forum site, so theyâre probably dealing with a lot right now. Theyâve basically deleted/private all of their social media accounts, so whatever âcloutâ theyâve gained from my design, and possibly othersâ, just up and disappeared, but I donât feel any catharsis in that because that really has nothing to do with what happened to me. And you know, the person who did it is younger than me (Iâm 23), and this happened literal years ago. They probably just didnât know any better at the time and were still in the mindset of âstealing is fine if I add positive representationâ like a lot of kids still have these days.
I donât really wish ill will on anyone that does me wrong. I just want things to be set right, but given how long itâs been since the incident, Iâm probably never gonna hear, âYes, I stole your design. Iâm sorry.â from them. My catharsis is in now standing my ground and saying, âYes, my design was stolen, this is why I think so, and even if Iâm the only one who cares, at least itâs out there.â
I gave in back then because I didnât have much confidence in myself. I thought I was wrong because I know I can get over-emotional and that I was too small to be seen by anyone and thus couldnât be stolen from. But I feel like I know my worth a little more now, and Iâm not going to let this happen again if I see it. At the very least Iâll blog about it vaguely like Iâve done today to let off steam.
#my moral of this story:#don't steal people's stuff because you want social clout#i think representation is important#and i love seeing reinterpretations of characters#i'm gonna try to participate in bla/cktober this year and you'll probably see a little bit of that from me#but make stuff from your own heart#or credit the artist you're taking from#stealing sh*t just because you wanna be more 'woke' doesn't justify it#an aside#*cough*he'slikethatbecausehischestisaboutaswideashishead.*cough*#*cough*oneideawastohavehimflatchestedbecauseheliterallyhasnocleavage*cough*#*cough*orhasallthecleavageifyoumeasurethedistancefromtheedgeofhischesttohisnech*cough*#*cough*butatthetimeiwasalmostexclusivelydrawingmasculinecharacters*cough*#*cough*ijustwantedonecharacterthaticoulddrawboobson*cough*
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iâve been meaning to post a meta about this but i tend to be better about writing those if i just kinda throw my thoughts together in a random little post first soooo iâve been thinking about harley & batman like, a lot since i started this blog since there are so many different takes on their relationship? loooots of her being antagonistic obviously (which makes sense) ---- mad love novel goes on and on about how she just doesnât âgetâ batman and how people blame it on her not growing up in gotham ( fwiw my harley was born and raised in gotham, not brooklyn ) --- harley herself is basically like i donât support unchecked vigilantism which is a fair perspective but has never quite hit for me. also def some takes out there about her being jealous of how much attention joker gives b which just bothers the shit out of me because , like , yâall , itâs not like bruce indulges it and it feels soooo â hate the other girl my bfâs obsessed with and not my bf â and harleen would never? ever? would def team up with said girlie instead , even if said girlie is a uhhhhhh 6â˛3 or whatever dude who fights crime in a bat suit. so that take just really doesnât resonate w/ me at all. and honestly i think harley gets the need for violence, even before she goes down the rabbit hole, so i rlly donât think she holds it against batman when he does hurt criminals . . . like . . . sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to save lives, and harley gets that. ( she also gets sooo fixated on violence like watching bats and j fight for the first time in harleen --- she dreams about it for months. )Â
takes that resonate with me a lot more are unsurprisingly what we see in harleen & also what we see in white knight. harleen i think shows harley looking up to batman a lot. she goes to him for reassurance / guidance --- she needs him to remind her what sheâs fighting for in the first place. and she trusts him. he is a hero to her -- he represents her hope for a better gotham. and thatâs why she takes it so fucking hard when she realizes that he doesnât believe in j being able to get better -- bc she really really really fucking looked up to him and respected him and thought he shared her vision for making gotham better. so itâs really hard for her to take. sheâs really deeply hurt by it. but itâs also like ---- bats is going to be so key to helping her get away from the joker. thinking abt these panels specifically. where bruce believes so strongly in the goodness in her. âif she is lost, then be a beacon. a light in the storm to show her the way back.â i have read harleen at least six times ( i wish that i was joking ) since mid-april and white knight once so i canât give u as much details but just the general vibe? of harls and bats being friends? of him having faith in her? of trusting her to do good? and also how he is the person she runs to when she is truly in over her head??? thatâs so important to me.
anyways -- all this to say that my generic background harley & bats relationship is based a lot on the vibes from harleen & white knight. a common history ( bats knowing harley before joker, even if she didnât know bruce ), harley being hurt but still trusting him more than probably anybody else in her life. eventual besties, probably, hopefully. like would name him the godfather to her kids. obvi this doesnât necessarily apply for threads that are actually w/ anyone writing b since those will all b their own dynamics -- but i just wanted to kinda lay out a general background so in other threads yâall know where harleyâs coming from when she mentions batman!!Â
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would you class percy as a morally grey character? iâm really interested to hear your input
Anon 2: Would u class percy as an Morally Gray character?
Hey there! Let me write that essay for you about morally gray Percy ^^
Itâs not about whether Percy is a morally gray character or not, itâs about he has to be otherwise the story doesnât make any sense. At least for me it wouldnât.
Ashley (@gr33kg0ds) said in the tags of my dark!Percy post something along the line of people diminishing Percyâs character because they need him to be pure and fluffy and I wholeheartedly agree with that!
Just because Percyâs twelve doesnât mean heâs pure and didnât do unproblematic things. Iâll mostly refer to The Lightning Thief because that book is the Magnus Opus for Riordan and perfectly stands for Percy as a morally gray character from the very beginning of the saga. (Also the only book Iâve recently re-read)
As much as I love fanon with all the amazing artworks, debates, memes and jokes, analysis, cool edits and wonderful fanfics, projecting your version of Percy doesnât make the image in your head real. Percy in canon is not the fun and fluffy boy you imagine him to be or which social media sites (Reddit, Twitter, Instagram and yes, also Tumblr) tend to make him to be. Heâs a scrawny little sarcastic twerp that was the unpopular kid. He isnât that cringy dude Tony Lopez doing that fucking weird TikTok dance (side note: I donât even know who this person is and I don't care, I saw the video and immediately wanted to delete every social media app on my phone, so thanks Tony?), kissing his Yeezys goodnight, vibing to our lord and gay icon Taylord âT. Swizzleâ Swift song and flexing them iPhone 11 Max Pros. Percy literally said that going to Burger King with his mother once in a while would be considered a luxury. Heâs a poor bastard in literal sense.
Part of the problem with the distinction of Percyâs character and his motives stem from the fact that Percy is a sneaky unreliable narrator and we as the audience (especially if youâre younger) donât question most of his behavior if you even question some (pretty sure that most of us only picked up weird stuff as adults). Everything seems plausible to you. But does it mean that his behavior is necessarily good? Something that would paint his character as good?
Like Iâve said, letâs take a look at TLT. The very beginning of everything and the wonderful line that gets quoted everywhere:Â âLook, I didn't want to be a half-bloodâ.Â
The very first line that quoted everywhere or used as in moodboard and edits but its meaning and significance get brushed off for the most part. It immediately sets the tone and the atmosphere for the book and for Percy as a character. A(n in my opinion) morally gray character. The very first thing we hear from Percy is that he doesnât want to be in this world. Heâs an involuntary participant who has been (upon further reading) blackmailed and forced into this world and is only cooperating to get his mother back and said in regards to his father (who also stands for the Greek pantheon) âwell yeah, would be nice to know about my dad but Iâve survived without him the past twelve years so I donât know, he wouldnât be missed necessarily I guess?â That pretty much tells you, it foreshadows, that we will be dealing with someone with grit, someone that fights back, someone that went through shit, someone that isnât a goody two-shoed character. Does it mean heâs a terrible (in the sense of evil or bad) character from the get go? Not really, but it tells you in nuances that he wonât be the white shining knight you might expect from a fairy tale.
There is so much that little Perseus Jackson has to offer you directly in the first book. So much that paints him as a morally gray character. From the illegal candy stash all the way to tricking Procrustes into his own trap. He knows right from wrong and isnât innocent by any means. He wants you to think heâs innocent. Yes, he hunts monsters and the book also tells you that some adults (Gabe) can also be monsters, but Percyâs personality is so interesting and full of facets which I love! Heâs misleading you on purpose. Deflects, plays events down. He lies in front of you to others but you donât really doubt it. Instead of questioning it, you understand it.
What distinguishes Percy from other male protagonists in that notion that the author doesnât try to paint him as particularly good (the reader connects the dots, in reality) is pretty much that. Percy is neither inherently good or bad. Heâs in the middle. He does lots of questionable things and his personality adds to it. Something that immediately comes to my mind is his lack of fear of consequences. He thinks in the short term and not in the long term. Of course, heâs caring about those that are close and important to him (Grover, Annabeth and his mother of course. And well. The world not getting destroyed by his weird father and fucking crazy uncle would be a plus). But Percy isnât really a strategist (yet). Look at the Medusa head thingy. Annabeth and Grover warn him, that heâs gonna get his ass beat and he doesnât care. That these gods could squish him in the end didnât matter to him.
The Olympian gods are painted as these unpenetrable huge mighty force and some fuzzy annoyed twelve year old dipshit sends them the severed head of a monster - but not any monster, the monster his father had a role in creating (well, Athena for the most part, but you know what I mean). (Also, I know this kinda reckless behavior gets sorta rewarded but at first, everyone was like âNO, NO, NO!â before Percy was glorious with his attempt). Percy essentially tells these ancient forces that drive the way of his new cosmos how shitâs gonna work from now on.
Percy isnât fear riddled and doesnât think about the possible outcome. He manipulates, he lies, he persuades and all of this as soon as he hits twelve. But probably earlier. Pretty sure he had to become a believable lier in order to trick (survive being around) Gabe. Perseus is angry, heâs agitated. Had Riordan written Percy as a soft spoken, frightened, goody two-shoed kid, almost nothing in TLT and the follow-ups would have made sense. Heâs the outcast, but slowly blossoms into the strength and muscles of the group. Of the entire camp. Someone that outsmarts opponents and wins battles. But he didnât do that by playing nice and being a bootlicker.
TLT wouldâve been a perfect standalone book that would have emphasized that Percy is an involuntary person sive) if you skip Kronos, leave a little bit foreshadowing with the prophecy out, tweak the talks with the gods and Annabethâs first meeting and skip Luke and the scorpion at the end. The ending wouldâve been âand so Percy had a first awesome summer vacation and found a group of friends for lifeâ or so (aka PJO movie 1 in less shitty and more cohesive).
The morally gray character shrinks a little bit in the SOM because there lie straighter dangers ahead which dive more into the bigger picture and Percy grows more into the character who takes care of friends and but he does come back with TTC, and definitely BOTL and the St. Helens explosion.
Consequences of Percyâs interactions had people partially dying. There is doubt, there is guilt. But the show must go on. There are battles that have to be won. There is no big giving up, no big overturn for the bad guys.
Also... isnât it interesting that we start with Percy saying âlook, I donât want to be in this worldâ in TLT and it ends with TLO where he says âfor once I didnât look backâ? The full circle? The way that accepting his fate took five books? To change Percy from being an involuntary participant to becoming voluntary? He didnât want to be a half-blood, he didnât want to be the kid in the prophecy, but he actively chose to be in the end. He went from a darker shade of gray to a mayhaps lighter, if you want to say so.
To conclude, I repeat myself again: itâs not about whether Percy is a morally gray character or not, itâs that he has to be.
Thanks for asking me about some meta stuff I really do like diving into these things here and there. Tumblrâs sorta glitchy, I do get notifications but I really donât see asks, so Iâm sorry if my response is mad late ^^
#mel answers#pjo#Percy Jackson#percy jackson and the olympians#the lightning thief#rick riordan#the last olympian
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How do you think the Bran and Jaimeâs meeting will go in the books? Iâve read theories guessing he might end up as King Branâs Hand, meta where the writers want him to become a mentor or father figure to the Starks in a full circle of his redemption arc, while others donât want or think he should be involved with the Starks long-term either because of his and his familyâs sins against the Starks or because they view his arc as reclamation rather than redemption or atonement. 1/2
This is what GRRM said about Bran and exploring time.Â
âIt's an obscenity to go into somebody's mind. So Bran may be responsible for Hodor's simplicity, due to going into his mind so powerfully that it rippled back through time. The explanation of Bran's powers, the whole questions of time and causality - can we affect the past? Is time a river you can only sail one way or an ocean that can be affected wherever you drop into it? These are issues I want to explore in the book, but it's harder to explain in a show.â - Fire Cannot Kill a Dragon
Hodorâs name reveal is neat and all, but Branâs power to manipulate the past doesn't exist just so we can randomly learn Hodorâs pointless name origin. That would be ridiculous unless the scene was used to introduce that ability. Hodorâs name reveal is important to the narrative, and I believe its purpose is to set up a much bigger event/reveal involved around Bran interfering with the past, not just observing it. Iâm pretty sure GRRM was hint-hinting to D&D about this, which is why he told them about the random ass Hodor scene that was already written, thinking it would be obvious what that means for the overall plot and letting them run with it butâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚ..
Because of this, I think itâs possible Bran brought himself to where he is.Â
IF Bran isnât involved in The Push, then he could have been involved with Jaime killing the Mad King. I kinda like the idea of Bran playing into Aerysâ madness, causing him to stock up on wildfire around the city, because then the wildfire would be an essential future plot element for a bigger purpose towards the end of the series and it would be a question of time, âa river you can only sail one way, or an ocean that can be affected wherever you drop it,â but for the entire series. (And, as someone with a passion in astrophysics, Iâm a sucker for discussions around time. BUTTHATâSJUSTME)Â
Do I totally subscribe to this theory? Eh. Iâm still not convinced Bran is King of All of Westeros for reasons, but Iâm open-minded. I DO think Jaime is surviving the series, for reasonsssss, so Iâm putting that disclaimer out there right now. I will never claim with absolute confidence that he is surviving though because, I mean, nobody fucking knows, and thereâs an argument for death. Iâm just going off of narrative clues that I perceive to be clues, and taking other character arcs into consideration. After literally drawing up a table because Iâm weird, the column for Survive has more evidence and justification than the column for Dies, so thatâs why I lean the way I lean. SO with that being said, I think itâs possible he has more of a political future.
IF this is what GRRM is writing, Jaime would still be responsible for pushing him, of course, but future Bran would want to be pushed. He'd be setting everything in motion to create the butterfly effect that makes it happen.Â
Even if that isnât what GRRM had intended with exploring time, itâs highly likely Branâs character development is taking him down a path of apathy over it, meaning he wouldnât be needing Jaime to do something for the purpose of redemption for him.Â
Speaking of RedemptionâŚ
-deep breath-
Iâm going to go off on this a bit because it IS relevant, I swear.Â
âLimits of redemptionâ is probably the biggest wtf interpretation fandom has when it comes to what GRRM actually said. Iâll try not to go off on it too much here but -
Interviewer: Both Jaime and Cersei are clearly despicable in those moments. Later, though, we see a more humane side of Jaime when he rescues a woman, who had been an enemy, from rape. All of a sudden we donât know what to feel about Jaime.
GRRM: One of the things I wanted to explore with Jaime, and with so many of the characters, is the whole issue of redemption. When can we be redeemed? Is redemption even possible? I donât have an answer. But when do we forgive people? [...] I want there to be a possibility of redemption for us, because we all do terrible things. We should be able to be forgiven. Because if there is no possibility of redemption, whatâs the answer then? [x]
I bolded âweâ from the interviewer, because it gives context to GRRMâs answer with âweâ being the readers, not the characters or Jaime himself. (I think thereâs another interview where he says âlimits of redemptionâ but itâs in the same context. I could be wrong but I SWEAR I heard it. AnywayâŚ)Â
âI kind of tried to ask, âdo you think heâs changed?â to get him to talk about Jaimeâs redemption arc, so he said something like he wanted to explore the concept of forgiveness and whether itâs possible to be forgiven for doing such horrible things, and that his goal was to ask the question, not give an answer.â [x]
Fandom thinks this is the characters giving Jaime forgiveness, and maybe there will be a small element of that in the books, but the question is for the readers. No, Jaime is not actively seeking redemption from people. His redemption is for himself, through living his best life, by rediscovering the person he used to be. Yes He Will Be Redeemed and No He Will Fail assume redemption is some arbitrary checklist determined by One Big Act, and theyâre answers to a question GRRM doesnât want to give an answer to.Â
The purpose of Jaimeâs POVs is to ask the readers, and the most obvious moment of this was the bath scene. GRRM smacks us over the head with the Aerys confession, and then as weâre introduced to more and more of his POV chapters, he slowly chips away at the Jaime illusion that was intentionally established the moment he pushed one of the perceived child protagonists out of a window. Itâs brilliant, and Iâm sorry GRRM that a large chunk of your fandom is too dense to get it. How frustrating lol. Iâll be insulted for him. (Iâm legit wondering if his recent angsty tweets about grey and redemption about real life stem from a concern that his fandom wonât understand the point of the series.)Â
To give you an idea of where these people are coming from, at least one BNF idiot on Twitter believes redemption hasnât been explored with Jaime yet.Â
But uhâŚÂ
GRRM mentioned his intent is to âexplore redemptionâ after delivering Jaime POVs, because... itâs... not a spoiler⌠heâs already exploring redemption, because the question is being asked TO US. We were supposed to have an âoh shitâ moment, realizing this is more complex than the surface level, biased perspective we were delivered at the beginning of the story. âMaybe Westeros and my protagonist have it wrong.â -cough- the people in the village in BatB -cough-Â
No matter how much fandom likes to pretend they love GRRM for pushing the boundaries of fantasy, they secretly fucking hate it. They love to be comfortable, dude. Thatâs why they read this series as if itâs a clear cut Good vs. Evil, because a) ego and b) thatâs easy. If GRRM was writing Jaime as doing everything with ill intent thenâŚ. his⌠question isnât being asked. They think everything he does right now is selfish and Bad, so theyâre waiting. They want it spoon fed to them. They want classic fantasy. They want Starks = Good, Lannisters = Bad.Â
But⌠if the author sees Jaimeâs actions as grey and complex, enough to ask the question to the readers if heâs redeemed in their eyes or not, then heâs not going to write an endgame that punishes the character for narrative payoff, because he doesnât see his actions as âsinsâ or âcrimesâ in the same way that these people are. Once upon a time, a person on tumblr reblogged one of my posts and said that Jaime will rape Cersei before he kills himself and that will be his endgame. But GRRM doesnât view Jaime as a rapist, so heâs not going to write Jaime as a rapist. Iâm bringing that up, because itâs the same phenomenon. People can ignore authorial intent all they want, but NOT when it comes to predicting narrative trajectory. The general fandom is terrible at that lol.Â
The exploration of redemption for Jaime comes in the form of confronting his disillusioned self and everything attached to it. Before someone thinks, âlolllll he isnât disillusionedâÂ
 âhe actually was a very idealistic young man who was disillusioned by lifeâ [x]
Jaimeâs redemption is the path of returning to that idealistic man for himself. Itâs by feeling ashamed of the things heâs done to hide his love for Cersei. Itâs by gaining independence and detaching from the toxic relationship that caused a mess outside of them. Itâs by wanting to be like the knights he admired in his youth, and like the woman warrior that inspired him.Â
So when I think about narrative payoff for Jaime, I donât see it framed as him being âpunishedâ for actions viewed as âcrimes,â when GRRM clearly established those âcrimesâ as complicated and grey with a character already going through some positive development, and especially when the characters judging are written to be flawed as well.
On the other side, having him be âpunishedâ by succumbing to hatred and anger is for sure giving an answer (this just⌠-sits on hands- donât even get me started on THIS fucking hot take). That answer would be a clear, solid, âNo, no matter how hard he tries to turn his life around, he canât be redeemed, because heâs a hateful, angry, fucked up person.â Iâve legit seen people think âlimits of redemptionâ is a boundary of redemption drawn in the sand that Jaime is walking towards but he wonât be able to cross it. I-.........................Â
And whatâs even the point of his handchop if scenario number 2 happens? Â
âAnd Jaime, losing a hand, losing the very thing he defined himself on is crucial to where I think I want to go with the character. And he questions what do you make of yourself if youâve lost that.â - GRRM [x]
(Iâm going to put this quote in every post sorry not sorry)Â
So heâs going to take Jaime on this big identity journey just for him to be like âlol nah he isnât thatâ âŚ?? That makes the loss of his hand meaningless, not âcrucial.â Is it really crucial for him to lose his hand if heâs bringing him back to the beginning? Is it really crucial for him to lose his hand to make himself realize heâs hateful and a failure and murder Cersei and then himself? No. He could have still met Brienne and been inspired by her knightly ways, attempted to live a better life, found out about Cerseiâs affairs, etc. He doesnât need to lose his hand to reach a point of fucking murder/suicide lmao fuck (not saying heâll do that but I KNOW people are thinking it).Â
The loss of his hand is âcrucial,â because GRRM has bigger endgame plans for him in the form of politics, and the journey to believably get there requires the forced loss of his warrior identity and everything that the hand symbolized.Â
AS FOR THE ACTUAL HAND THEORY...
Even though Iâm undecided on it, I CAN see it IF Bran is King. I get it. Jaimeâs missing his right Hand, he becomes the Hand to the kid he pushed out the window. Hardy har har. I understand how that would be pleasing.
And we all know GRRM said something about how the best ones for power are the ones who donât want itâŚÂ Â
And⌠this suspicious scene at the very beginning of the seriesâŚÂ
âYou should be the Hand.âÂ
âGods forbid,â a manâs voice replied lazily. âItâs not an honor Iâd want. Thereâs far too much work involved.âÂ
Bran hung, listening, suddenly afraid to go on. -AGOT
BUT IFÂ that happens, it wouldnât be there as some sort of #atonement #forredemption. It would be there because of Jaimeâs growth as a character after developing into a political player, after asking himself, âwhat do you make of yourself if youâve lost [the swordhand]?â Heâs no longer the warrior he once was. He dislikes any sort of political position, because he feels most alive with a sword in his hand. But that was Warrior Jaime, and the point of âwhat do you make of yourself after youâve lost thatâ is Jaime going down a different path after discovering that Warrior Jaime has died. I mean, heâd never be actively seeking power and thinking itâs the best career ever, like heâd probably be all -sighhhhhhh- about it, but heâd be doing the responsible thing and whatâs necessary. Heâd make himself useful in a new way.Â
âThe Warrior had been Jaimeâs god since he was old enough to hold a sword. Other men might be fathers, sons, husbands, but never Jaime Lannister, whose sword was as golden as his hair. He was a warrior, and that was all he would ever be.â - AFFC (Do I really need to make a post about how GRRM foreshadows? Mr. Bran: âI never fallâ...?)
Jaime losing his hand was the narrative consequence for The Push, making all of his development post handchop -ALL OF HIS POVS- the redemption theme. It was the hand that pushed Bran, fucked his twin, killed his king, swung the sword against fandomâs Precious ProtagonistsâŚÂ
âYou ought to be pleased. Iâve lost the hand I killed the king with. The hand that flung the Stark boy from that tower. The hand Iâd slide between my sisterâs thighs to make her wet.â - AFFC
So if Jaime becomes his Hand, it would be the two characters meeting in the middle, not Jaime groveling at his feet, begging for forgiveness, framed as a punishment for sins - âsinsâ that fandom views as âsinsâ that need narrative payoff, because they donât understand intent.Â
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RWBY Character Analysis: Pietro and Penny Polendina
Up until now Iâve been keeping quiet about my opinions on the newest volume, in no small part because my personal life has been one absurd setback after another, and I havenât had the energy to engage in fandom meta. If you do want to know what my current opinion of RWBY is, go over to @itsclydebitches blog, search through her #rwby-recaps tag, and read every single one. At this point, her metas are basically an itemized list of all my grievances with the show. I highly recommend you check âem out.
Or, if you donât feel like reading several hoursâ worth of recaps, then go find a sheet of paper, give yourself a papercut, and then squeeze a lemon into it. That should give you an accurate impression of my feelings.
In truth, I have a lot to say about the show, particularly how I think CRWBY has mishandled the plot, characters, tone, and intended message of their series. And while I enjoy dissecting RWBY with what amounts to mad scientist levels of glee, I think plenty of other folks have already discussed V7â˛s and V8â˛s various issues in greater depth and with far more eloquence. Any contribution I could theoretically make at this point would be somewhat redundant.
That being said, Iâd like to talk about something thatâs been bothering me for a while, which (to my knowledge) no one else in the fandom has brought up. (And feel free to correct me if Iâm wrong.)
Todayâs topic of concern is Pietro Polendina, and his relationship with Penny.
And because Iâm absolutely certain this post is going to be controversial and summon anonymous armchair critics to fill my inbox with sweary claptrap, I may as well just come out and say it:
Pietro Polendina, as heâs currently portrayed in the show, is an inherently abusive parental figure.
Let me take a second to clarify that I donât think it was RWBYâs intention to portray Pietro that way. Much like other aspects of the show, a lot of nuance is often lost when discussing the difference between intention versus implementation, or telling versus showing. Itâs what happens when a writer tries to characterize a person one way, but in execution portrays them in an entirely different light. Compounding this problem is what feels like a series of rather myopic writing decisions that started as early as Volume 2, concerning Pennyâs sense of agency, and how the canon would bear out the implications of an autonomous being grappling with her identity. Itâs infuriating that the show has spent seven seasons staunchly refusing to ask any sort of ethical questions surrounding her existence, only to thenâwith minimal setupâgive us Pietroâs âheartfeltâ emotional breakdown when he has to choose between âsavingâ Penny or âsacrificingâ her for the greater good.
Yeah, no thanks.
If we want to talk about why this moment read as hollow and insincere, we need to first make sure everyoneâs on the same page.
Spoilers for V8.E5 - âAmity.â Letâs not waste any time.
In light of the newest episode and itsâshall we sayâquestionable implications, I figured now was the best time to bring it up while the thoughts were still fresh in my mind. (Because nothing generates momentum quite like frothing-at-the-mouth rage.)
The first time weâre told anything about Pietro, it comes from an exchange between Penny and Ruby. From V2.E2 - âA Minor Hiccup.â
Penny: I've never been to another kingdom before. My father asked me not to venture out too far, but... You have to understand, my father loves me very much. He just worries a lot.
Ruby: Believe me, I know the feeling. But why not let us know you were okay?
Penny: IâŚwas asked not to talk to you. Or Weiss. Or Blake. Or Yang. Anybody, really.
Ruby: Was your dad that upset?
Penny: No, it wasnât my father.
The scene immediately diverts our attention to a public unveiling of the AK-200. A hologram of James Ironwood is presenting this newest model of Atlesian Knight to a crowd of enthusiastic spectators, along with the Atlesian Paladin, a piloted mech. During the demonstration, James informs his audience that Atlasâ military created them with the intent of removing people from the battlefield and mitigating casualties (presumably against Grimm).
Penny is quickly spotted by several soldiers, and flees. Ruby follows, and in the process the two are nearly hit by a truck. Pennyâs display of strength draws a crowd and prompts her to retreat into an alley, where Ruby learns that Penny isnât âa real girl.â
This scene continues in the next episode, âPainting the TownâŚâ
Penny: Most girls are born, but I was made. Iâm the worldâs first synthetic person capable of generating an Aura. [Averts her gaze.] Iâm not realâŚ
After Ruby assures her that no, you donât have to be organic in order to have personhood, Penny proceeds to hug her with slightly more force than necessary.
Ruby: [Muffled noise of pain.] I can see why your father would want to protect such a delicate flower!
Penny: [Releases Ruby.] Oh, heâs very sweet! My fatherâs the one that built me! Iâm sure you would love him.
Ruby: Wow. He built you all by himself?
Penny: Well, almost! He had some help from Mr. Ironwood.
Ruby: The general? Wait, is that why those soldiers were after you?
Penny: They like to protect me, too!
Ruby: They don't think you can protect yourself?
Penny: They're not sure if I'm ready yet. One day, it will be my job to save the world, but I still have a lot left to learn. That's why my father let me come to the Vytal Festival. I want to see what it's like in the rest of the world, and test myself in the Tournament.
Their conversation is interrupted by the sound of the approaching soldiers from earlier. Despite Rubyâs protests, Penny proceeds to yeet her into the nearby dumpster, all while reassuring her that itâs to keep Ruby out of trouble, not her. When the soldiers arrive, they ask her if sheâs okay, then proceed to lightly scold her for causing a scene. Pennyâs told that her father âisnât going to be happy about this,â and is then politely asked (not ordered; asked) to let them escort her back.
Letâs take a second to break down these events.
When these two episodes first aired, the wording and visuals (âNo, it wasnât my father,â followed by the cutaway to James unveiling the automatons) implied that James was the one forbidding her from interacting with other people. Itâs supposed to make you think that James is being restrictive and harsh, while Pietro is meant as a foilâthe sweet, but cautious father figure. But hereâs the thing: both of these depictions are inaccurate, and frankly, Pennyâs the one at fault here. Penny blew her cover within minutes of interacting with Rubyâa scenario that Penny was responsible for because she was sneaking off without permission. Penny is a classified, top-secret military project, as made clear by the fact that she begs Ruby to not say anything to anyone. Penny is in full acknowledgement that her existence, if made public, could cause massive issues for her (something that sheâs clearly experienced before, if her line, âYouâre taking this extraordinarily well,â is anything to go by).
But hereâs the thingâkeeping Penny on a short leash wasnât a unilateral decision made by James. That was Pietroâs choice as well. âMy father asked me not to venture out too far,â âYour father isnât going to be happy about thisââas much as this scene is desperately trying to put the onus on James for Pennyâs truant behavior, Pietro canonically shares that blame. And Penny (to some extent) is in recognition of the fact that she did something wrong.
Back in Volumes 1 â 3, before the series butchered Jamesâ characterization, these moments were meant as pretty clever examples of foreshadowing and subverting the controlling-military-general trope. This scene is meant to illustrate that yes, Penny is craving social interaction outside of military personnel as a consequence of being hidden, but that hiding her is also a necessity. Itâs a complicated situation with no easy answer, but itâs also something of a necessary evil (as Pennyâs close call with the truck and her disclosing that intel to Ruby are anything to go by).
Letâs skip ahead to Volume 7, shortly after Watts tampered with the drone footage and framed her for several deaths. In V7.E7 - âWorst Case Scenario,â a newscaster informs us that people in Atlas and Mantle want Penny to be deactivated, despite Jamesâ insistence that the footage was doctored and Penny didnât go on a killing spree. The publicâs unfavorable opinion of Pennyâa sentiment that Jacques of all people embodies when he brings it up in V7.E8âreinforces V2âs assessment of why keeping her secret was necessary. Not only is her existence controversial because Aura research is still taboo, but people are afraid that a mechanical person with military-grade hardware could be hacked and weaponized against them. (Something which Volume 8 actually validates when James has Watts take control of her in the most recent episode.)
But I digress.
Weâre taken to Pietroâs lab, where Penny is hooked up to some sort of recharge/docking station. Ruby, Weiss, and Maria look on in concern while the machine is uploading the visual data from her systems. Thereâs one part of their conversation I want to focus on in particular:
Pietro: When the general first challenged us to find the next breakthrough in defense technology, most of my colleagues pursued more obvious choices. I was one of the few who believed in looking inward for inspiration.
Ruby: You wanted a protector with a soul.
Pietro: I did. And when General Ironwood saw her, he did too. Much to my surprise, the Penny Project was chosen over all the other proposals.
Allow me to break down their conversation so we can fully appreciate what heâs actually saying.
The Penny Project was picked as the candidate for the next breakthrough in defense technology.
Pietro wanted a protector with a SOUL.
In RWBY, Aura and souls are one of the defining characteristics of personhood. Personhood is central to Pennyâs identity and internal conflict (particularly when we consider that sheâs based on Pinocchio). Thatâs why Penny accepts Rubyâs reassurances that sheâs a real person. Thatâs why she wants to have emotional connections with others.
What makes that revelation disturbing is when you realize that Pietro knowingly created a child soldier.
Look, thereâs no getting around this. Pietro fully admits that he wanted to create a personâa human beingâa fucking childâas a "defense technologyâ to throw at the Grimm (and by extension, Salem). Everything, from the language he uses, to the mere fact that he entered Penny in the Vytal Tournament as a proving ground where she could âtest [her]self,â tells us that he either didnât consider or didnât care about the implications behind his proposal.
When you break it all down, this is what we end up with:
âHey, I have an idea: Why donât we make a person, cram as many weapons as we can fit into that person, and then inform her every day for the rest of her life that she was built for the sole purpose of fighting monsters, just so we donât have to risk the lives of others. Letâs then take away anything remotely resembling autonomy, minimize her interactions with people, and basically indoctrinate her into thinking that this is something she wants for herself. Oh, and in case she starts to raise objections, remind her that I donated part of my soul to her. If we make her feel guilty about this generous sacrifice I made so she could have the privilege of existing, she wonât question our motives. Next, letâs give her a taste of freedom by having her fight in a gladiatorial blood sport so that we can prove our child soldier is an effective killer. And then, after sheâs brutally murdered on international television, we can rebuild her and assign her to protecting an entire city thatâs inherently prejudiced against her, all while I brood in my lab about how sad I am.â
Holy fuck. Watts might be a morally bankrupt asshole, but at least his proposal didnât hinge on manufacturing state-of-the-art living weapons. They should have just gone with his idea.
(Which, hilariously enough, they did. Watts is the inventor of the PaladinsâPaladins which, Iâll remind you, were invented so the army could remove people from the battlefield. You know, people. Kind of like what Penny is.)
Do you see why this entire scene might have pissed me off? Even if the show didnât intend for any of this to be the case, when you think critically about the circumstances thereâs no denying the tacit implications.
To reiterate, V8.E5 is the episode where Pietro says, and I quote:
âI donât care about the big picture! I care about my daughter! I lost you before. Are you asking me to go through that again? No. I want the chance to watch you live your life.â
Oh, yeah? And what life is that? The one where sheâs supposed to kill Grimm and literally nothing else? You do realize that she died specifically because you made her for the purpose of fighting, right?
No one, literally no one, was holding a gun to Pietroâs head and telling him that he had to build a living weapon. That was his idea. He chose to do that.
Remember when Cinder said, âI donât serve anyone! And you wouldnât either, if you werenât built that way.â SheâŚbasically has a point. Penny has never been given the option to explore the world in a capacity where she wasnât charged with defending it by her father. We know she doesnât have many friends, courtesy of Ironwood dissuading her against it in V7. But Iâm left with the troubling realization that the show (and the fandom), in their crusade to vilify James, are ignoring the fact that Pietro is also complicit in this behavior by virtue of being her creator. If we condemn the man that prevents Penny from having relationships, then what will we do to the man who forced her into that existence in the first place?
Being her âfatherâ has given him a free pass to overlook the ethics of having a child who was created with a pre-planned purpose. How the hell did the show intend for Pietro to reconcile âI want you to live your lifeâ with âI created you so youâd spend your life defending the worldâ? It viscerally reminds me of the sort of narcissistic parents who have kids because they want to pass on the family name, or continue their bloodline, or have live-in caregivers when they get older, only on a larger and much more horrific scale. And thatâs fucked up.
Now, Iâm not saying Iâm against having a conflict like this in the show. In fact, Iâd love to have a character who has to grapple with her own humanity while questioning the environment she grew up in. Penny is a character who is extremely fascinating because of all the potential she representsâa young woman who through a chance encounter befriends a group of strangers, and over time, is exposed to freedoms and friendships she was previously denied. Slowly, she begins to unlearn the mindset she was indoctrinated with, and starts to petition for agency and autonomy. Pietro is forced to confront the fact that what he did was traumatic and cruel, and that his love for her doesnât erase the harm he unintentionally subjected her to, nor does it change the fact that he knowingly burdened a person with a responsibility she never consented to. Thereâs a wealth of character growth and narrative payoff buried here, but like most things in RWBY, it was either underdeveloped or not thought through all the way.
The wholesome father-daughter relationship the show wants Pietro and Penny to have is fundamentally contradicted by the nature of her existence, and the fact that no one (besides the villains) calls attention to it. Iâd love for them to have that sort of dynamic, but the show had to do more to earn it. Instead, itâll forever be another item on RWBYâs ever-growing list of disappointmentsâ
Because Pietroâs remorse is more artificial than Penny could ever hope to be.
#rwby#rwby volume 8#rwby spoilers#rwby thought dump#my posts#i speak#rwby meta#pietro polendina#penny polendina#james ironwood#arthur watts#ruby rose#rwby worldbuilding#rwde
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What do people think Ned spent his days doing? He wasnât executing people most of the time. He was running the castle and the North by way of diplomacy and managing his lords. Did they not read Branâs chapters where the feast happens? You know a super politically important event that secured loyalty but is basically about âcalming people, serving food, arranging chairs, babysittingâ. Do they not think keeping people calm is important when youâre figuring out how to deal with issues? Did they miss that the Manderlys are so loyal to the Starks because of the food and shelter they were once given? Or how arranging chairs is about ensuring no one feels disrespected and people work together well?
Iâm almost certain that whoever sent that anon worships Tyrion, so Iâll use his own POV to prove why Sansa is good, âShe is good at this, he thought, as he watched her tell Lord Gyles that his cough was sounding better, compliment Elinor Tyrell on her gown, and question Jalabhar Xho about wedding customs in the Summer Isles. His cousin Ser Lancel had been brought down by Ser Kevan, the first time he'd left his sickbed since the battle. He looks ghastly. Lancel's hair had turned white and brittle, and he was thin as a stick. Without his father beside him holding him up, he would surely have collapsed. Yet when Sansa praised his valor and said how good it was to see him getting strong again, both Lancel and Ser Kevan beamed. She would have made Joffrey a good queen and a better wife if he'd had the sense to love her.â Ned was a good lord because he knew the people he ruled, inviting people to sit beside him at dinner. Thatâs what Sansa is good at, charming people. Her name literally means charm. Lancel brightening up after she compliments him shows how she could win soldiers to her cause. Speaking to Jalabar shows she knows how to have good conversations. Thatâs how alliances are made. And anon also neglected to mention some of Sansaâs other skills including her knowledge of history, sigils, and reading and writing skills which are better than Robbâs who is 3 years older and the heir. These are Aryaâs thoughts on this, âthe fierce, bearded young man who liked to walk the battlements alone in a black cloak patterned with white suns had been taken by some hedge knight who meant to get rich off him. Sansa would have known who he was, and the fat one too, but Arya had never taken much interest in titles and sigils. Whenever Septa Mordane had gone on about the history of this house and that house, she was inclined to drift and dream and wonder when the lesson would be done.â Because of Aryaâs lack of knowledge about sigils, sheâs unable to identify him as a Karstark, one of the Starks most important bannermen, and admits that she was uninterested in history, which is important for a ruler. Sansa is shown to be able to identify sigils and has a good memory of history which is good because thatâs how you learn what ways to emulate and what to avoid when it comes to leading. Sansa also has a keen eye for whatâs politically important, âSansa noted that neither lands nor castle accompanied the title, which made the alchemist no more a true lord than Varys was.â Understanding of what actually gives someone power. Sorry for sending this in. The anon you got just made me really mad and I now feel the need to write a meta about Sansaâs leadership skills.
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Please don't apologize, this was lovely to read and I agree with everything!
Some readers make the mistake of expecting them to be a finished product when we are witnessing them all on a journey. None of them are done yet, and none of them will ever have all the ideal talents and skills to make one perfect ruler, but I'd say an instinct for calming, charming and instant recall of the details of historical relationships is especially important in a ruler rather than an administrative assistant like a steward.Â
A credible spirit of reconciliation and respect needs to flow from the very top to be effective, and it's not something you can just learn if it doesn't come from within.Â
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I feel bad for all the nice J*nsa shippers who like their ship for whatever reasons (tropes, pretty art, aesthetic appeal, whatever) and know it's not canon but get associated with the misogynistic Dany hating crowd who act like Jon being attracted to Ygritte is J*nsa foreshadowing because red hair (I guess Jon should fuck Edmure Tully too? Omg give me Dark!Jon getting revenge on Catelyn by seducing her brother!) Tell me something. I'm new to the fandom but was J*nsa popular before the show? And I've heard something about the OG J*nsa shippers being alienated by the new shippers who insisted it had to be canon and acted like the series is called, "A song of J*nsa #danysux." I don't find that hard to believe because I know people who are now ashamed of calling themselves J*nsa shippers. Like, at this point, it's not only rival shippers who hate it. Even Gendrya/Braime/Jon stans/etc have started disliking that ship. You know your fandom is a problem when people who have nothing to do with Jnsa have a problem with it.
me: reads this ask
me: iwastheregandalf.gif which I can't find now but
okay anon buckle up because I am sadly well-equipped to answer this ask but before I do lemme tell you dark jon seducing edmure to take revenge on cat is LITERALLY THE BEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD but *clears throat* ALL RIGHT THEN.
disclaimer: as anon says I have no issue with like the shippers mentioned by anon in the beginning and ngl I agree, I have ABSOLUTELY ZERO FUCKING STAKES in the j*nsa vs j*nerys war and the only het jon ship I gaf about is jon/ygritte and we all know where that ended up I just... have been here since 2011/adwd was over and all the fic around was just for the books under secret lj communities and asoiaf qualified for yuletide and I have... seen... things.... and I actually have like uh had... beef... with some people in there and I know things bc ppl who hated those others told me stuff so anyway *sigh* buckle up anon I'mma tell you the story of jon shipwars through the years
in order, the old gods help me here, under the cut bc this is long as fuck
when I got into fandom also given what numbers were on ao3 one ship was popular and it was sansan. no like sansan was lit. the only asoiaf ship on ao3 with more than 200 fics. jb had twenty when i checked first. jc had like around 100-ish because of the show but sansan dwarfed anything. I posted the first jon/ygritte fic on the ao3 tag and the fourth throbb fic and like the others were all reposts from lj kinkmemes. nothing was popular before the show except for sansan when it comes to huge numbers bc grrm doesn't like fic and it was all hush hush until the show made it impossible to control and that ship was the one with a huge enough fanbase it actually had numbers, so like... j*nsa wasn't popular in the way nothing else was popular until it got screentime on the show
now, that stated, j*nsa had a... fair amount of fic for a rareship which was mostly book-based and from og shippers that were there from before the show and liked it for what it was but literally none of them thought it was gonna be canon, like it wasn't huge or anything but it had a small but dedicated fanbase who did their own thing and thought it was fun/liked the idea but that was it
that fandom had their own niche of hcs that they cultivated and shit except that like... at the end of S5/beginning of S6 there was a surge in shipping for... well obvious reasons bc it was obv sansa was getting to the wall and that would have been all nice and good but a) it was the time puritanical shipping was starting to take root and the 'shipping sansa with sandor or tyrion is hella problematic' rhetoric had started to circle coming from sans*ery shippers mostly but I'mma not open that fucking can of worms here, b) while the ending of S5 had more of a theon/sansa spike, the j*nsa stuff started getting big
now here we have to mention my villain origin story ie: j*nsa fandom had this one stan whose name I won't make because honestly it's been years and if she's still around I don't want her to remember I exist who was a bnf, wrote for... the website that created the whole larry/carol thing etc who was really fixed on this thing that j*nsa was actually canon and started writing extremely popular meta about it. now you're gonna ask how do you know, I know because this person once wrote a meta named 'why robb stark is a dick' and I told her that it was really fucking bad meta and she took it so badly she kept on trash talking me on her blog/her podcast (I was apparently the insane robb stark fangirl l m a o good lord) and like that was when some sane ppl who argued with her informed me in pvt that she was basically harping on the CANON thing when they'd have been okay with like... it being crackshipping and that she was basically cultivating a hoarde of followers who were harping on them/the ogs and basically ostracizing them;
I would like to add that this person - before her tumblr got 'accidentally deleted' and remade it therefore deleted most receipts for, er, her so-called meta which included stuff like ned and cat raised sansa as a sexual object and only wanted to sell her like cattle - had at some point started a round robin fic thing where... some of the characters mocked openly said stuff that some of the og fans had said specifically targeting them and people in that side basically went harassing anyone who didn't agree with that specific notion
now never mind that this person basically coined an entire term to describe ppl who liked white guys and excused all their wrongdoings out of my conversation re robb basically lying about everything I said as if I didn't have the receipts and tried to sell shirts with it and it didn't work and like then she got kicked out of her own website because she was telling her commenters disagreeing pretty shitty insults (considering I was called psychotic for disagreeing with her that time I don't doubt it) I think at some point she stepped back from fandom bc idk wtf she's up to these days and I don't want to, but basically at that point the dam was broken and there was a bunch of puritanical shippers harping on anyone who didn't agree with j*nsa is canon endgame stuff
this also includes an incident when those ppl were like... passing themselves as throbb shippers and ended up trying to tell t*hramsay shippers off the theon tag based on moral reasons and I ended up arguing with all of them (and they were all from that crowd) which in turn landed me in contact with other og j*nsa shippers who were like detached from that fandom bc those same people harassed them away as well ssooooo fun
anyway when S6 happened everyone was high on it and whatnot but I wasn't gonna begrudge them that I mean... you shipped it for years, canon is delivering you, good for you, but then j*nerys happened
god j*nerys happened
aaand basically...... I mean personally I was there like are y'all seriously arguing about the best incest jon ship out there but like basically the j*nsa endgame side was like AH JON IS PLAYING DANY SEE IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, the j*nerys obv got defensive af and both sides were sort of alternatively shitting on jon/ygritte anyway and depicting any other romantic rship jon could have as abusive⢠and during S8 it just got worse and like I tried to stay out of it but basically from what I'm seeing now idk how the j*neryses are doing but on the j*nsa one it's ah jon's gonna play dany anyway and she's going to go insane like in the show so SHOW TRUTHING EVERY OTHER WAY and like again denying that sandor exists or that tyrion exists and like I barely touch my corner (sansan) but I ended up arguing with j*nsa/th*nsa people on twitter who were antis and is2g it was white-hair inducing and I know for sure the sansa/tyrion shippers were harassed to hell and back throughout so FUN
and even if the show didn't go there now since everyone there banked on the jnsa endgame thing and admitting you're wrong is like... not a thing, they still haven't let go of it and attach to that ship any shred of evidence which honestly is grasping at straws half of the time (like... the sansa/alysanne parallels like guys please no) and which is why every other ship is starting to get fed up, attaching canon proof of stuff from other ships onto theirs see that batb argument and jb is platonic but jonsa is not nvm taking all the sansan stuff and throwing it on j*nsa but then denying that sansan has canon evidence (like guys I had to read sansa touching his shoulder when saying gregor wasn't a true knight wasn't meaningful and we were seeing things please) and blah blah blah
this also goes hand in hand with the fixation on like... villanizing dany at all costs and like is2g I have zero investment in dany or her storyline I don't even remember it and I don't particularly care abt her either way and sure af I'm not for j*nerys endgame but like.... some stuff I read is completely excessive esp when fixing on how she's a completely mad tyrant who's gonna have to be put down and like... guys no
(also there's some srs stannis hate in that corner which I honestly don't get why they even care abt stannis but I had to read stuff like ppl don't recognize that dany and stannis are the real villains in this saga and like........ idek)
I think most of the og shippers are gone or don't ship it openly bc they don't want to be attached to the drama but like I also think they're pissing off everyone else bc like... I mean a bunch of them also were down with sansa being paired with other ppl as long as it meant a good ending for her except those ppl were... like everyone but the ppl she has actual contact with in canon which meant that at some point sansa/gendry was a thing and like.... you can imagine why arya/gendry shippers & arya stans were fed up, and there's also this tendency to behave like sansa is the center of the entire saga which like these books is named a song of jon snow basically can we pls make peace with it and personally I've had it with both j*nsa and j*nerys people since they started with that dumbass JON/YGRITTE WAS AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP rhetoric but I'm also fed up with the total ignoring that sandor exists/depicting us as delusional and honestly I also was by proxy fed up from the harassing of the sansa/tyrion shippers soooooooooooo
there were also instances of 'well theon is an acceptable choice other than jon bc he can't threaten her' which... i mean we all know what that meant and I'm not even commenting it bc it's one AM and I have no force to but I don't have to explain why it's not a progressive take now do I
there were also metas about how cousin incest being legal in half of the world means that jondany is a worse incest and j*nsa doesn't count as such and I was basically there like guys please just fucking own up to it but honestly I chose to forgot where I read that and I couldn't find the link if I tried
tldr: no one wants to admit that it's not gonna be endgame which considering the amount of fic they have on ao3 is imvho useless bc they have more content than like.. anything I ship that's not jb or that's actually like canon *cries in joncon/rhaegar but I mean renly/loras is canon and has less fic than them* so idk what's the problem with enjoying that instead of insisting it's gonna be canon when not even the show validated it while show truthing anyway when the only show truthing that can be truthed is the small council made of minorities and possibly jon eventually fucking off with the wildlings but not like that but like most people who thought it wasn't gonna be endgame had left/were made to leave by the time S7 rolled by and at this point since wow isn't out yet everyone is fandom-grasping at straws to find stuff to discourse on and we're here beating dead horses *shrug*
so that's... how it is but I would again like to point out that I don't judge ppl on their shipping, I don't particularly care about this entire feud bc I only ship jon with ppl he's not related to in whichever way and I try to stay out of this mess bc I don't really care to argue with ppl who have already decided to bend canon to whatever they want and will have to realize that it's not what grrm wrote at some point but like I have a very good memory and the above rant is as objective as possible also bc again I don't literally have a stake in that race I just think romantic/endgame j*nsa is not a thing and that ppl should stay in their lane and not harping on other ppl who ship whatever in general but especially when their ship is the most popular thing in fandom in the first place /two cents
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The twst dorm leaders playing gbf, purely for meme purposes, something i spent too much time on. below the cut for long post.
Riddle
â Rank 101
â Plays casually but consistently, riddle is a perfectionist and wants to make his teams good, but heâs also realistic and pragmatic. He knows heâs a busy guy, and canât join trains all day to bust up all his grids at once
â The type to focus on one team at a time based on a predetermined order. Probably not in a crew (if he is, itâs just him, Cater and some of Caterâs friends) so he doesnât worry about guild wars and building his teams based on that.
â f2p, heâs responsible with his money. probably mains light since he likes the comfort of a high hp pool + stamina, and the typical light play style is reliable and safe.
â Has only recruited one eternalâfunf. Her voice probably drives him up the wall, but he likes the security of her heals to his light team. Is planning on 5*ing her!
â favourite class is doctor. Practical, and he wonât admit it but sexy as fuck
â He plays for the gameplay rather than the story/characters, the one exception is sandalphon, who he is incredibly fond of!!! he reads stories if the plot interests him, however, and if heâs got some spare time.
Leona
â Rank 1
â Leona doesnât play heâs in it like a collecting game and so ruggie can use his randomly lucksacked mlb shiva as a support summon
â like vil, plays on roulette season
â reads some stories, but on ruggies account bc he cba to unlock them himself
â ruggie made a joke about leona being percival âif he lost his sense of honourâ which made leona go and read the dragon knights stories
â bruh he fucking stans percy so hard after reading between frost and flame but he wonât admit it
â frequently throws money at the game just because he feels like pulling in gacha. ruggie is crying. leona donât buy the scam star draw set you donât even play the game please
â is always really lucky in gacha
Azul
â Rank 200
â Only started playing recently, but was determined to catch up to Idia and become the best player so he got the twins and some poor unfortunate souls to help him grind and pay his way to instant victory
â Doesnât care for the plot, is purely driven by competition and wanting to have the best grids at any given time. Mains water for the Octavinelle Aesthetic and bitches about having to play the summer cagliostro crit setup to compete with other elements.
â Likes quatre because they are both driven purely by spite and revenge, and is desperate for him to get a rebalance so he can run him w/ a clear conscience
â Also likes Six, probably cried like a bitchboy during seeds of redemption which is to this date the only story he has read but you didnât hear it from me
â In a crew with idia and is waiting to overthrow him as captain
â Has a weird spreadsheet showing exactly when to cast a status effect for it to land with the highest success thatâs virtually unreadable to anyone aside from him
â Plays chaos ruler as default bc he thinks it looks cool
â sparks for the weapon rather than the character
â hates farming for mats and gets the twins/his slaves to do his dailies when heâs busy a lot of the time god i wish i had slaves to farm ubaha host mats for me rn
Kalim
â Rank 50 but his grids are the best of anyone in the game bc haha money go brrrr
â He is cursed with bad gacha luck, and managed to deck himself out with the sexiest primal grid possible (puts idiaâs to shame) thanks to jamils help, and a lot of money spent on trying to get Vikalaâs ssr (before realising the spark function existed...)
â He doesnât favour any element, because he likes all the characters! He has a soft spot for Anila and Vikala though, since theyâre so adorable and fun!
â Doesnât play seriously and mostly just reads the stories, idia wants to cry when he sees his fire grid with four flb ixabas going to waste
â He likes Sarasa, and thinks sheâs really funny, so when he does play itâs mostly grinding to recruit her!
â Actually likes Vyrn and doesnât find him annoying! has actually read the main story.
â solos as soon as he has 300 crystals, he literally canât save, i hate it here
â his favourite class is lumberjack, but he hasnât unlocked it yet ;-; ccws are hard to forge for rank 100 and below ;-;
Vil
â Rank 25
â seasonal player, shows up for roulette season and then leaves
â downloaded the game because of the pretty art and the cute character designs, but canât be bothered to learn how to playâheâs a busy man!
â Europa was his first SSR and is still one of his favourite characters, sheâs so pretty! He also loves michael and gabriel, and would start playing properly if they became playable mark my words
â wonât admit it but probably wants belial to smear his makeup a little
â kinda a basic bitch, has only read the wmtsb series cried at the âiâll be waitingâ scene
â criticises the fashion choices of every character he pulls, summons included. Wonât go into raids if the boss is ugly.
â Does his makeup with zero playing in the bg and once parades lust...
Idia
â Rank 275
â that insane player who has soloed faasan hl in every element, has all the eternals 5*ed + the sexy blue skin, and all the evokers
â a legendary figure in the community
â plays as tormentor in every team bc heâs that bitch and also has a damascus knife mh for every element even if he doesnât always use it
â is both serious abt gameplay and the characters, watches all the gbf channel episodes and keeps up with news
â was probably in a gbfvs tournament
â his favourite character is caim, who reminds him of ortho with his childish innocence! Second is Nio, who is quiet and cute! Heâs fond of a lot of characters though, like esser, funf, ferry and narmaya.
â Strictly plays with his faves, but his grids are so good that he manages to make any setup meta.
â Has siero scratcher ptsd bc it didnât give him his third flb blue sphere but got tempted with it so. many. times.
â Is in a guild w/ azul and ortho + some internet friends and if anyone doesnât meet the gw quota in a day he screams at them w his hair all red and angry
â owns the gisla body pillow.
â He mains all elements. He has a primal whale grid for every element. His favourite to play with is probably wind, because he thinks it has the most flexibility in its play style. Hes a little mad that winds evoker is not as good as most of the others...
â Idia: âi play for strategyâ also idia: âgets fraux before alanaan bc the waifu is too strongâ
Malleus
â Rank 200
â he canât play, heâs just been farming tiamat omega raids daily since the games launch
â he downloaded it to get closer to lilia, who is really *really* trying to teach him how to play with... little success
â Still, he doesnât give up!
â Used his free gold bar uncapping a celeste horn
â forgot to collect his free eternal
â used parazonium as skill fodder (dw malmal i did the same and i live with the guilt)
â uses auto select for his grids
â lilia is crying in the background and often steps in to make the grids himself, but malleus always accidentally deletes them...
â his favourite character is vania, she reminds him of lilia! and also, himself, in a strange way...
â he also likes song, and has worked very hard to recruit her! he almost cried reading about how she was ostracised in her village for her talent at archery, and how lonely she feels, even in the eternals.
â whenever the characters give him a seasonal message, he cries
â gives valentines/white day/christmas gifts to every single character he has
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@agirlnamedkeith and @samirant both tagged me, thanks!
rules: itâs time to love yourselves! choose your 5 favourite works you created in the past year (fics, art, edits, etc) and link them below to reflect on the amazing things youâve brought into the world. tag as many writers/artists/etc as you want (fan or original) so we can spread the love and link each other to awesome works!
(I have so few posted works that none of these are going to be new or surprising, but here we go!)
Rescued Again
I posted this a year ago today, just before dawn, after having stayed up most of the night writing it. Iâd created an AO3 account a few years earlier to access locked fics but had never used it to do anything besides read & leave kudos. And then the knighting scene happened and I wrote this and a lot of people said lovely things (thank you!) so I wrote some more a few days later, and more a few days after that, and here we are now. Anyway, you never forget your first! Unsurprisingly, it features baths and bedsharing.
Ring Them Bells
Iâll probably never write anything this popular again, and Iâm fine with that. Everyone was writing S8 fix-its at the time, and I enjoyed reading nearly every one of them, but I still couldnât suppress the itch to fix it myself. Part of my motivation was that I really wanted a fix-it that did not involve a post-Winterfell surprise pregnancy for Brienne, which was a fairly widespread plotline (I devoured many of those, too, but Iâm not a big fan of unplanned pregnancy as a romance-reconciliation trope, and itâs something I really didnât want for the characterâleaving my need for a new personal headcanon unfulfilled). So I picked up the fragments of a fix-it setup Iâd come up with in case the show killed Brienne in the Battle of Winterfell, and launched into writing first multi-chapter story without any clear idea of what was going to happen, other than J/B getting back together. Aside from the pregnancy, itâs chock-full of pretty much all the standard S8 fix-it tropesâand I donât regret a single one of them. Also, #GayDadsOnTarth! That was fun.
A Great Fountain
This is my âthere are no men like meâ fic; Iâve read pretty widely and Iâm pretty sure itâs the only love story in the Jaime/Brienne ship tag thatâs also about civil engineering project management and literal waterworks. And I say thatâs my baby and Iâm proud. So much of my love for Jaime as a character (and my desire for him to get his shit together and process his past and build a fulfulling and constructive life with purpose and meaning on his own terms) got poured into this fic. Iâm also probably never going to write another first line that makes me as happy as âHell is full of seagulls.â 10/10 would spend 15 hours stuck in an un-airconditioned polling place on an NYC summer day to come up with an idea this good again.
Things That Happened in Bed in Winterfell
The only straightforward what-it-says-on-the-tin title Iâve ever given a fic, aside from the minor caveat that theyâre no longer strictly confining themselves to just the bed. This series has been a really enjoyable exercise in stretching my smut muscles, and challenging myself to write E-rated scenes where the fucking is not just hot, but also an effective vehicle for character-driven storytelling. Also Iâm very pleased with the facesitting scene.
Winter Should Have Meaning
Iâm mad at this fic but Iâm still putting it on the list because itâs not going to get the best of me, dammit. Plus, there are a handful of passages in it that Iâm quite proud of, and I think Iâve made some headway with the original goal of trying to get some of my headcanon about Brienneâs gender feels out on the page in story form, rather than meta. Now if I can just get myself back in the groove of this one to finish it.
I think most of my usual suspects have been tagged already, but just in case, tagging @robotsdance @luthienebonyx @brynnmck @nire-the-mithridatist and anyone else who wants to do it!
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Kirby and his friends vigorously climbed into the small boat. King Dedede, crammed into a small seat, immediately after departure, was incessantly complaining.
âHey fuzzball, give me some space,â the king shouted to Rick, who was sitting right next to him, âitâs too hot in here!!â
In spite of the complaining, Rick, full of determination, didnât flinch in the slightest.
âWhat? Whoâre you calling fuzzy? My fur is known for being the shiniest in the Rainbow Islands!â
âI donât care. Anywho, itâs way too hot in these small, cramped seats. Meta Knight, couldnât you have prepared a ship that was just a little bit bigger?â
âThe size of a small boat has its perks,â Meta Knight coolly answered, sitting in the spacious cockpit, âitâs more difficult for your enemies to spot you because you are able to move more quickly, which is very important. Actually, this small boat was made as a three-seater.â
Meta Knight looked back at the seats behind him. Behind the captainâs seat, there were only two seats. Since King Dedede, Kirby, Rick, Kine, Coo, and Pirka were seated there, they were, of course, cramped together.
âYouâve got seven people sitting in a small three-seater boat!â King Dedede said, seemingly-fed up. âRick, Kine, Coo! You guys keep squishing the rest of us. Iâm enough to take out the bad guy-â
Rick shook his head.
âNot a chance! This is a problem dealing with the Rainbow Islands. Thanks for coming to help us, but weâre not just gonna stand around while you do all the work!â
â....................â
Kine shook his dorsal fin to express agreement. He couldnât talk because he was holding Kirby in his mouth. For the sake of having more space, Kirby fit inside his large mouth.
âHumph, you two are acting all self-important,â King Dedede said with a sour look, âbut you just wanna show off to your wife and girlfriend anyway. I can see right through you.â
âWh-What did you just say!?â
Having apparently been right on the mark, Rick waved his limbs around in confusion.
âTh-Thatâs not what weâre trying to do!! At this point, even if we were, Pick already knows how good I look!â
â...................!!!â
Kine shook his dorsal fin, sitting. As Kine was unable to say anything, Kirby spoke instead:
âIt doesnât matter what theyâre doing this for! The more the merrier. Eating and playing are way more fun when you do it with others!â
âFor goodness sake, weâre not going there to play,â Coo said, exasperated. He was resting on top of Kineâs head. âWeâre going there to catch the evildoer above the clouds. We mustnât be so careless.â
âUm, I agree,â Pirka said, calling out to Kirby and the others, âthereâs only one enemy to face, but it is very strong, to a barbarous extent. Everyone, please be careful not to get hurt.â
âWeâll be fine, itâll all be fine!â Kirby said in a happy-go-lucky voice.
âWe are going to arrive soon,â Meta Knight said, still sitting in the cockpit, âThereâs a chance that the enemy that attacked Pirka will suddenly attack us as well.â
âEveryone, be careful.â
âGot it!â the group said together. Before long, the small boat steadily flew above the clouds. At last, the group had arrived at the world above the clouds, with Meta Knight standing at the lead as they got down. Though it only looked like a small cloud from the ground, as they tried to get down, it was so spacious they could not see the edge.
âWhereâs the bad guy?â Rick asked as he looked around the place. âThings seem peaceful here, but-â
âMm- mGYAAAAA!!â Kine screamed in an odd voice, spitting Kirby out of his mouth. Kirby was sent rolling. When he stopped, he looked back at Kine and complained:
âJeez, Kine!! You couldâve warned me before you spat me out!!â
Rick laughed.
âThereâs no way he wouldâve been able to say anything to warn you, yâknow? You were in his mouth, after all.â
âOh, really?â
âItâs true~!â, Kine said, happy that his mouth was finally free, âhey, whereâs that nice smell coming from?â
âA smell?â
Kirby stood up on the tips of his feet and tried to smell the air.
âWhat kind of smell? Cake? Or meat? Spaghetti? Ramen?â
âNothing like that. Way, way better... Itâs the smell of water!â Kine said, wiggling his tail fin.
âWater?â
Rickâs small nose twitched. He shook his head.
âBut I donât smell anything.â
âI understand. Follow me~!â
Kine proceeded glidingly, as if he were swimming in the air.
âKine, youâre right,â Pirka said, âthe lake is in that direction.â
She spread her wings and lightly flew. As the group chased after Kine, Meta Knight asked:
âPirka, tell me about the dangerous creature that attacked you. What was it like?â
âVery creepy-looking.â
Pirkaâs voice trembled.
âIt was round, about the same size as Kirby. Its body was dark blue. It didnât have any arms or legs, and it attacked by using its long tongue to lick me. I didnât understand where it was looking, but it had a strange look in its eyes⌠It was truly terrifying.â
âThat sounds really scary~!â
Kine trembled.
âIt was round, dark blue, with no limbs, long tongue⌠strange creature,â Rick muttered with a serious look on his face, âwho was it?â
âRound, dark blue,â Kirby pondered, âlicking⌠licking⌠huh? What? Wait a sec!â
Kirby, having come to a sudden realization, was dumbfounded. At the same time, Coo realized.
âThat creature, perhaps-â
âThere it is!â Pirka shouted. âLook, itâs the lake!â
A large lake was laid out ahead. On the shore, there was a large tree growing, bearing dull purple fruits. It was an unlikely scene above the clouds. Kine cheered:
âHurray, clean water! It looks so good~!â Immediately, Kine jumped into the lake, but, suddenly, something moved to stop him. Kine stared in awe.
âHuh? Over there, could it beâŚâ
Before Kineâs eyes, a strange creature stood. Its body was round and dark blue. It had no limbs, and swung its long tongue left and right. It bounced up and down, as if it were playing.
âEek!â Pirka shrieked. âThatâs it! The creature! Everyone, be careful!â
âI knew it,â Kirby said, taken aback, âthatâs Gooey! The weird creature Pirka told us about was Gooey!â
âHeâs right!â Rick said, also astonished, âWhat's someone like Gooey doing in a place like this?â
Pirka, turning pale, stared at Kirby and the others.
âKirby, everyone, do you, by any chance, know it...?â
âYeah. Heâs a friend!â
âNo way!â
Pirka backed away from them, seeming horrified.
âPirka,â Rick said, âthereâs no need to be scared. Gooeyâs not evil. I donât know what youâre thinking, but heâs a fun guy.â
âBut he attacked me!â
âNuh-uh,â Kirby said, âI bet Gooey just wanted to play with you!â
âThatâs not the case. He attacked me with that long tongue of his. Moreover⌠look!â
Pirka pointed at the lake.
âSee those piled-up stones over there? He put them there!â
Exactly as Pirka said, there were stones piled up in one part of the lake.
âThe water of this lake has a mechanism of falling from there to the ground below. However, by piling up those stones, he dammed up the water, causing it to stop raining!â
Rick shook his head.
âThis has to be a misunderstanding! Thereâs no way Gooey would do something like that!â
âBut-â
âAnyways,â Kirby interjected, âletâs hear what Gooey has to say about this! HEY, GOOEY!!!â
Kirby shouted in a loud voice, waving his arms. Noticing Kirbyâs voice, Gooey started to approach the group. Pirka hid behind Kirby as she trembled.
âHeâs coming this way!! Be careful, Kirby!! Heâs going to attack you with his tongue!!â
âItâll be fiiiiine!â
However, it was at that moment that Gooey stopped, then turned to face Kirby. Then, suddenly, Gooey stretched out his tongue and attacked!
âWHA-?!â
Kirby was confused.
However, Pirka, who had been quivering behind Kirby, couldnât dodge it in time. Whipped by Gooeyâs tongue, Pirka was knocked down.
âEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!â
Pirka had been sent flying in the air, then fell down on her back.
âWhat are you doing?!â
Now with a shocked expression, King Dedede, grasping his hammer, charged toward Gooey.
âYou mustâve gone mad, you googly-eyed blob!! Why would you do such a thing!?â
The king jumped at Gooey and swung his hammer. Gooey dodged the attack with ease, then, once again, stretched out his tongue, not at king Dedede, but instead at Pirka, who had collapsed.
âDanger!â
In the nick of time, Meta Knight picked up Pirka and jumped out of the way.
âGooey, stop!!â Rick screamed. âWhy are you doing this?!â
However, Gooey wouldnât respond.
âHeâs after Pirka~!â Kine said, shaking his dorsal fin. âBut why?â
âMaybe itâs because I tried to destroy the stones,â Pirka said, breathing heavily, âthat must be why he hates me so much!â
âNo way, Gooey would never-â
However, not seeming to care for what anyone had to say, Gooey kept attacking. Once again, he stretched out his tongue and tried to attack Pirka.
âHe doesnât seem to be listening,â Meta Knight yelled, covering Pirka with his cape, âif this continues, Iâll just fight. Kirby, Dedede, are you two ready?â
âOf course!â
King Dedede clutched his hammer, full of rage. However, Kirby could not be ready. Gooey was one of his best friends.
âI donât wanna fight!!â Kirby said earnestly. âThis isnât normal!! Gooey just wants to play, no doubt!!â
However, as if to ridicule Kirby, Gooeyâs attacks grew more intense.
âThat is what you consider âplay?â Get a grip, Kirby!â Meta Knight yelled. Kirby could no longer say anything. There was no way Gooeyâs behavior was meant to be playful.
âGooey!! Whatâs going on?! Tell me!! Why are you doing this?!â
Gooey wouldnât answer Kirbyâs questions. For some reason, he didn't seem to care. Without a word, he simply turned to hostility. At that point, Kirby had no choice but to give up.
âLetâs get out of here!â Kirby screamed, turning away from Gooey.
âGet out of here?â Rick asked with a surprised voice. âThis isnât a joke, Kirby. We need to work together to stop Gooey!â
It was exactly as Rick said: Gooey was all by himself. If Kirby and his friends got serious, they would be able to defeat him. Thatâs why Kirby didnât want to fight. Kirby didnât want to gang up on Gooey with the others and attack him, or anything of the sort.
âIâm running away!â
Kirby grabbed Pirka by the hand and started to run.
âEveryone, follow Kirby,â Coo shouted, flapping his wings on a grand scale, ânow is not the time to fight!â
âWhy!?â
Rick glared at Coo, appearing irritated.
âIf we fight, we can win!â
âOur goal isnât to win. Gooey has simply lost his mind. Nothing will come of attacking him!â
âIf thatâs the case, then Iâll knock his senses back into him with my hammer!â King Dedede yelled, filled with fighting spirit. Meta Knight, with his treasured sword Galaxia, was about to slash Gooey at any moment. Coo raised his voice:
âStop it! If we fight, weâre going to get hurt. Not only that, but this has left us utterly distant from Gooey! Our friendship with him has been torn!â
Kine, hearing this, panicked.
âDistant?! Does that mean we might not be friends with Gooey anymore?! I donât want that at all~!â
âTherefore, we should get going!â
Rick and Kine nodded their heads. Meta Knight lowered his sword. King Dedede, reluctantly, lowered his hammer. They all turned their backs on Gooey and started running.
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I was watching a devil wears prada character analysis and miranda says in the movie âwhat are they gonna say about me, dragon lady, career obsessedâ in regards to how differently she would be percieved if she was a man and i am like aint those some dany vibes
But the thing is that daenerys is NOT career or âthrone obsessedâ!!! Iâve said it before and yâall bitches best know that Iâll say it again! Daenerys is NOT throne obsessed! Daenerys literally views the throne as a burden thatâs been placed upon her shoulders. She views it as a duty that was bestowed upon her as her entire family was murdered, her brother died, her child died, she is the single last living Targaryen (that she knows of) and views the throne as something that has befell upon her out of process of elimination. She has the âWell if no one else will do it, then I willâ mentality.
Daenerys views the throne / ruling as a responsibility to help as many people as she can. She doesnât want it for glory, she doesnât want it because she simply thinks she deserves it, she doesnât want it because she feels that itâs her right as the Last Targaryen (as the show did). She wants it because she knows that she has the power and the means to help better the world.
Even though Dany wants to sail to Westeros, Dany constantly chooses to sacrifice her goals in order to stay in Slaverâs Bay and take care of her people:
âThere is nothing to stay for,â said Brown Ben Plumm.
âYour Grace, the slavers brought their doom on themselves,â said Daario Naharis.
âYou have brought freedom as well,â Missandei pointed out.
âFreedom to starve?â asked Dany sharply. âFreedom to die? Am I a dragon, or a harpy?â Am I mad? Do I have the taint?
âA dragon,â Ser Barristan said with certainty. âMeereen is not Westeros, Your Grace.â
âBut how can I rule seven kingdoms if I cannot rule a single city?â He had no answer to that. Dany turned away from them, to gaze out over the city once again. âMy children need time to heal and learn. My dragons need time to grow and test their wings. And I need the same. I will not let this city go the way of Astapor. I will not let the harpy of Yunkai chain up those Iâve freed all over again.â She turned back to look at their faces. âI will not march.â
âWhat will you do then, Khaleesi?â asked Rakharo.
âStay,â she said. âRule. And be a queen.â - Daenerys VI ASOS
When Xaro offers her ships to go to Westeros, Dany refuses again:
âEnough.â Dany slapped the table. âNo one will be left to die. You are all my people.â Her dreams of home and love had blinded her. âI will not abandon Meereen to the fate of Astapor. It grieves me to say so, but Westeros must wait.â - Daenerys III ADWD
Instead of sailing for Westeros, Dany agrees to marry a man she hates and sacrifices her happiness for the sake of her people:
⌠but Daenerys Targaryen had other children, tens of thousands who had hailed her as their mother when she broke their chains. She thought of Stalwart Shield, of Missandeiâs brother, of the woman Rylona Rhee, who had played the harp so beautifully. No marriage would ever bring them back to life, but if a husband could help end the slaughter, then she owed it to her dead to marry. - Daenerys IV ADWD
âIt is not,â she agreed, âbut it is important to me that you should understand. My people are bleeding. Dying. A queen belongs not to herself, but to the realm. Marriage or carnage, those are my choices. A wedding or a war.â - Daenerys IV ADWD
When Dany is offered yet another choice to go to Westeros, and this time with a powerful alliance with Dorne, Dany sacrifices this for her people and still decides to marry Hizdahr:
âIt would please me if he had turned up with these fifty thousand swords he speaks of. Instead he brings two knights and a parchment. Will a parchment shield my people from the Yunkai'i? If he had come with a fleet âŚâ
âSunspear has never been a sea power, Your Grace.â
âNo.â Dany knew enough of Westerosi history to know that. Nymeria had landed ten thousand ships upon Dorneâs sandy shores, but when she wed her Dornish prince she had burned them all and turned her back upon the sea forever. âDorne is too far away. To please this prince, I would need to abandon all my people. You should send him home.â - Daenerys VIII ADWD
And when Dany marries Hizdahr and has her wedding night with him, we see just how much she is sacrificing her happiness:
Dany flinched. âWho is there?â
âOnly Missandei.â The Naathi scribe moved closer to the bed. âThis one heard you crying.â
âCrying? I was not crying. Why would I cry? I have my peace, I have my king, I have everything a queen might wish for. You had a bad dream, that was all.â â Daenerys VIII ADWD
This willingness to self sacrifice that Dany has is tied not only to the fact that she cares about people, but also to the fact that she sees taking care of her people and protecting them as her duty as queen. We can see, in several moments, how Dany is both self-sacrificing and dutiful, and how she is constantly being self critical and reminding herself of her duties as a queen:
âI was alone for a long time, Jorah. All alone but for my brother. I was such a small scared thing. Viserys should have protected me, but instead he hurt me and scared me worse. He shouldnât have done that. He wasnât just my brother, he was my king. Why do the gods make kings and queens, if not to protect the ones who canât protect themselves?â
âSome kings make themselves. Robert did.â
âHe was no true king,â Dany said scornfully. âHe did no justice. Justice ⌠thatâs what kings are for.â - Daenerys III ASOS
Dany would gladly have sent the rest of the petitioners away ⌠but she was still their queen, so she heard them out and did her best to give them justice. - Daenerys III ADWD
âYour Grace could not have knownââ
âI am the queen. It was my place to know.â - Daenerys V ADWD
A queen belongs not to herself but to her people. - Daenerys V ADWD
âA queen must know the sufferings of her people.â - Daenerys VI ADWD
She would rather have drifted in the fragrant pool all day, eating iced fruit off silver trays and dreaming of a house with a red door, but a queen belongs to her people, not to herself. - Daenerys IX ADWD
It was time, though. A girl might spend her life at play, but she was a woman grown, a queen, a wife, a mother to thousands. Her children had need of her. Drogon had bent before the whip, and so must she. She had to don her crown again and return to her ebon bench and the arms of her noble husband. - Daenerys X ADWD
Let it be known that Daenerys Targaryen is not throne crazy, she wants to rule because her ultimate goal is to help people. She wants to protect people who cannot protect themselves. Thank you!
BTW this is me writing this entire meta:
#daenerys targaryen#asoiaf meta#asoiaf#long post#ish#anyways#:((#she's not throne obsessed i hate it when ppl say that about her#Anonymous
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