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Vash develops separation anxiety and Wolfwood can’t go to his three month review in peace.
(Based on that ICONIC scene from Psych!!)
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[ID: Trigun fanart. Vash is facing away from the camera, towards Wolfwood. They are standing in an office building. Wolfwood, eyes narrowed suspiciously, says “this is the Eye of Michael Headquarters.” “You can’t be here”. In the next frame, vash cries “but everyone knows who I am anyway-“ wolfwood cuts him off with a “no.” Vash continues “why can’t we go together?” Wolfwood says ‘no’ a second time, earning a long “WHY??” from Vash.
In the second image, Wolfwood shouts “THAT’S IT” “GET OUT” while grabbing vash to carry him. Vash thrashes while screaming “WOLFWOOOOOOD!”. In the second frame, vash peacefully flops backwards like a toddler and wolfwood shouts while still trying to drag him out “DON’T YOU DARE GO BONELESS ON ME, VASH!!!” End ID.]
#he also needs to get his contract amended because he literally can’t have mandatory secret rendezvous with the gung ho guns#when his boss’s weird brother can’t be left alone for more than three minutes without eating the couch#“he’s not supposed to know you’re a gung go gun#yeah no shit but he can read fucking minds apparently#nicholas d. wolfwood#trigun#vash the stampede#trigun fanart#trigun maximum#vashwood
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did anyone post the knives concept art here . w his skirt & choker . i want to rb it so bad
#its literally soo cool.. and w the stake / blade thing thru his chest… HII..twirling my hair#i still have like 15 chapters left but even so i do wish we saw more of him😭#his appearances are so sporadic for the main antag and theres little development outside the seeds & july incidents#idk it wouldve been cute 2 see more of him . i think ^__^#tbf most of the villain encounters are pretty rushed .like each gung ho gun gets like 5 chs of plot and thats it HSJAHA#trigun#knives#im going 2 post it anyways. idc😋#legato
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If you come into the tags of any of my posts hating on Tristamp I will execute you on the spot with no mercy
#Ok maybe jk#Kinda#BUT WHY???#I've seen some interesting criticism and takes#BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO DUNK ON MY PRECIOUS CHILD#FUCK OFF#I LOVE ALL OF THE THREE PISTOLS#I'm AGGRESSIVELY PRO-TRISTAMP#I MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE#(Elendira mostly I'm so sad she's not a canon trans human but I'll see where it goes I GUESS)#(She literally had the least development of any of the Gung Ho Guns in the manga and it pissed me off)#(BUT THIS IS AN INTERESTING CHOICE UHHH???)#BUT I STILL APPRECIATE AND LOVE TRISTAMP#IT INTRODUCED ME TO THIS FRANCHISE#GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!!#Yadda yadda
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Do we know who named the Gung Ho Guns.
....was it Knives? Legato?
#trigun#......why did they do that#why is literally no one in this manga normal about anything at all#my name is Millions Knives#and I'm here to destroy the world with my posse the Gung Ho Guns
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Tbh i think trigun (specifically maximum) is one of the best pieces of media ive ever read/watched/whatever like. Its way ahead of its time and vash is probably my favorite character in anything ever
#like i mostly post ship stuff from it cuz. vashwood is the perfect ship#but also. also#thw themes#trigun is an inherently punk story because it centers around breaking cycles of abuse and systems of oppression#and every point of view about these issues ur presented with arent inherently good or bad#even with knives as an antagonist literally every one of the gung ho guns has been a victim of oppression#and any ideology that u stick to so rigidly u refuse to reconsider regardless of the situation#is inherently cruel because there will always be edge cases in which ur actions are harmful#even vash’s#in particular i think the guy whos getting revenge for his daughter and vash’s refusal to let him is extremely cruel#anyway best work of fiction of all time i cant read or watch anything else sorry
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fuck it, i’m just gonna start blocking people who think t/rigun is about [redacted] and assume every instance of someone being forced to do something, having their power taken away, and/or being bodily harmed is a metaphor for it. doing that isn’t exactly in the spirit of a book club but it really sours my grapes to keep seeing it, and i AM otherwise having fun so i’d rather not quit the whole thing over it
#yoshiposts#[shaking you] it’s about disenfranchisement!!! the plants have literally no voice in society despite being the main force holding it up!!#the gung-ho guns & EoM are cults that frequently target marginalized people!! and once you’re in it’s near impossible to leave!!#that’s what the scene with legato & midvalley was showing!! that this is a job you’re stuck with until you die!!
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i am trying SOOOO hard not to be biased against stampede but a man just exploded and vash didn’t even bat an eye. the vash i know would’ve been screaming and crying that he couldn’t save that guy. wtf.
#its not like im blinded by nostalgia really#bc i literally watched trigun 98 in full for the first time this past weekend#i just am a little confused as to why vash!!! doesn't seem to give a shit?????#also im still flabbergasted that there's a gung ho gun in fucking EPISODE 3 but okay. okay. whatever.#i will say i like that they've made eg mine actually seem like a threat in this#but its pretty cancelled out by the fact that vash isn't actually too upset about people dying#like he cared in episode 1 and now he WATCHED A GUY BLOW UP AND SAID NOTHING????#sorry followers i got into a new interest and im a bit diseased about it#idk. the gung ho guns literally were put together as a designed team to make vash emotionally suffer but i do not see him suffering!!!!
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I'm gonna be so serious, y'all are remembering POWDER and Ekko and not JINX and Ekko when screaming about how much you "wanted Timebomb endgame over Caitvi"
shoving JINX in a relationship with her current mental state is not a good writing choice whatsoever, because Ekko literally had to keep rewinding time because she kept trying to kill herself. If Anything, That relationship would be rushed and fanservice because they would have jumped the gun in 2 episodes vs the 2 seasons it took for Caitvi and showing their ups and downs throughout their whole relationship.
The alternate universe works because Powder doesn't become Jinx and the two don't separate, unlike this universe where the two have been at odds for 7 years and almost kill each other back in Ep 7 of S1.
"But Cait never said sorry!" she didn't really have to, because Vi never stopped being in love with the girl that she Knows Cait is at heart, the Cocktail Molotov scene in Act 2 makes that VERY apparent. Cait saying that she was waiting for Vi to recover to address Jinx is the start of it because Act 1 Cait wouldn't have even Considered doing that, because she was so gung-ho about putting a bullet into Jinx that she Demanded Vi move out of the way for her to do so. She holds herself accountable with the mistakes she's made ("We can't erase our mistakes. None of us." that wasn't just a line targeted at Jinx to prove a point, there's deeper meaning behind it), and moving the guards out of the cell proving that she trusts Vi and her judgment on Jinx is that apology, Caitlyn has always been an "acts of service" kinda person over being a "verbal" kinda person; it's all over the place in S1 but Especially here in S2. But even after she takes Vi's shirt off, you could tell by her eyes and body language that she was most likely going to stop herself again to apologize for hitting her because the wound was in the same spot she initially hit, which was part of the lead up for This wound to even happen, but Vi's the one that just pulls her back in instead.
I'm also gonna add on that Vi thinks she made the wrong choice in trusting Jinx and thinking Jinx's changed because Jinx locked her in the cell and ran away again. So why in the Hell would Vi go chasing after her Again to be met with the same result time and time again? Vi isn't responsible for Jinx's mental health and y'all saying that are just weird. And I think it's apparent that Stillwater probably wasn't even in the top 10 things in her head being with Caitlyn, she was just running wild on emotions that she hasn't allowed herself to feel like-- Ever. And even if it Was Vi probably would have said she wasn't comfortable being in a jail cell of all places.
What was I talking about? Oh right, Timebomb.
Like Yes, it's shitty that Ekko doesn't get a happy ending considering he's the most unproblematic in the entire show. But people tend to forget that at the end of the day, Arcane is a TRADGEDY. It's not She-ra, it's not The Owl House, it wasn't going to be wrapped up in a neat little bow where everyone gets to smile and walk into the sunset with their loved ones, especially considering the fact that this season's being used as build ups to other stories, it's relatively clear that this isn't the last we're going to see of a lot of these characters. When they come back into play? well... who's to say?
But also, let's address that a lot of the Caitvi hate is just straight up homophobia at this point because a lot of people can understand Mel's admission to manipulating Jayce as an apology but Cait's actions we're suddenly braindead and need shit completely spelled out. like good lord I'm so tired of this. Y'all would NEVER have survived Catradora let me tell ya...
(My next post is gonna be a long winded rant about Maddie so stay tuned for that...)
#arcane#arcane season 2#caitlyn kiramman#vi arcane#ekko arcane#jink arcane#caitvi#timebomb#league of legends#yall are weird#and hypocritical#to say the least#arcane discussion#im rambling again#but i have a point#making timebomb canon would be fanservice not caitvi#im just saying
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I really love how like collectively all the Gung Ho Guns seem to think that Legato is Knives’ favorite despite Knives crumpling him like an aluminum can. They literally saw that and went “well if it’d been any of us we’d be dead, so clearly Legato’s got something special going on that makes him the boss’s poor little meow meow”
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Don’t mind me sprinting to try and get this thought in order before the Anime Expo panel. I need it to be out in the wild Just In Case.
So, a few of the Gung Ho Guns have gotten reworked for Stampede, yes? To varying degrees.
Ninelives is apparently not a horrific flesh mech, Dark Souls boss thing, according to the end credits of episode 3.
E.G. the Mine just got a HUGE upgrade and didn’t get owned 3 seconds after he showed up.
Monev was an actual character with a fubar backstory and emotional impact instead of just Some Guy who trained in a basement for years specifically to kill Vash. (and Orange is SO EVIL for this)
Elendira is. *gestures futilely* There is so much going on there but yeah. She’s going to be terrifying once she achieves adult body and loses (drops?) the childish attitude. Also because of the whole Plant hybrid thing her nails truly are literally infinite sooooo.
So I have some thoughts about Hoppered the Gauntlet.
In Trimax, Gauntlet’s narrative weight comes from the fact that he makes Vash remember, which by extension makes US, the reader, understand what July really meant. Before that we had heard mention of it a few times as ‘a city destroyed in a single night’ and talk of there being ‘no survivors’ but we had no actual connection to it, and also no real idea if that was even true. But in Stampede, we saw July happen. We were there. So even if Vash’s memory is still shot afterwards, and he doesn’t remember Lost July, we the audience DO. So having the Dragon’s nest play out exactly the same isn’t going to have the same narrative punch in the gut that it did in Trimax. It can’t.
There’s also the fact that, given how we’ve met most of the major players in the story, or had them mentioned at least (hi Milly), it feels kind of Odd™ that we haven’t seen someone has emotionally impactful as Gauntlet yet.
Unless we have.
We saw with Rollo/Monev that Orange is willing to have the person’s regular name be one thing and then have a second Eye of Michael code name. I suspect that is going to happen with Gauntlet; either because EoM or because he has decided on his own to lie about who he was.
And yes, I do in fact have someone in mind.
I checked myself the translation there is accurate; the only change I would make is calling the gun ‘gaudy’ instead of ‘shiny’ but that’s not a huge deal. Also for the record, the original tweet is from Jan. 11, well before he makes his reappearance for the season finale. So when it talks about a ‘reappearance’, it is talking about seeing him again in July. Original tweet here, tweet containing the translation here.
I think Chuck Lee is going to be our Gauntlet. That he made it just far enough out of the city to survive, but that he was badly maimed in the process, and that his family didn’t make it. He’s the ONLY member of the military police with a unique design. He has an actual name, and the director himself tweeted about his backstory. His gun is so unusual that we would recognize it anywhere. Hell, I referred to him as ‘the gold gun guy from episode one’ when one of my friends didn’t recognize him immediately. His gun is so incredibly recognizable. Almost like we need to be able to recognize him by that alone, when everything else about him has changed.
THIS could be how narrative weight for Gauntlet is established in the Stampede universe when it can’t be done the same way as in Trimax. Taking a character who has, in a way, also been with the audience ALL ALONG, who was there with us for two pivitol moments, the beginning and the awakening, but who comes at it from such a horrifically different angle and bringing him back in such an agonizing way. Because he was very much in the wrong with his stunt at Jeneora Rock, but his rage over the loss of his family in July would be justified, even if we know it wasn’t Vash’s fault.
(Also, the IRONY of him ending up as one of Knives’s lackeys when Knives is the one that caused all of this? Damn.)
Footnote: I have Thoughts on why they can get away with adding Milly to The Squad late. That is a whole other Thought but tldr; (and also I haven’t actually written it out) Milly is the most perceptive of all of them she doesn’t NEED an extended intro to Vash to Know.
#yelling about: trigun stampede#season 2 theory#posting this so I have proof if I'm somehow right#(I would scream) (so loud)#no one ask me how long I spent verifying that translation I am absolute trash at kanji (also I don't actually know)#trigun stampede#trigun#vash the stampede#hoppered the gauntlet#lost july#trigun stampede season 2#trigun stampede theory#gung ho guns#chuck lee#(I almost forgot him whoops. does he even have a tag lol)#please imagine me having this thought and sitting up like nosferatu#did I forget something? probably. oh well YEET
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It is so funny that Knives calls Vash his ‘little brother’ and so all the Gung-ho Guns obviously just accept it and refer to him that way too, but really there is no way Knives could know which of them was born first (unless their memories go back as far as their literal moment of birth - which I guess is possible??) since they were both already there when Rem found them.
#trigun#trimax#vash the stampede#knives millions#I have to believe that Vash is hearing everyone saying this and just thinks#‘not this bullshit again’#it’s such a very knives lie to tell lmao
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The Twin's Dossiers
So, something I've been thinking about a lot and something I have seen speculation about, both on tumblr and on the sketchiness that is TV Tropes: The Dossiers of the twins on the Project SEEDS computer in where the Tesla record is being stored. It has information on Kni (Nai) and Vash, with Vash's file expressly in with Tesla's folder, which alarms a lot of fans. And a lot of us are wondering how did it get there? I've wondered, was it just a computer record the ship just does automatically about whatever goes on in it? Did Rem input the data for, say, health-information reasons (presumably to delete it all later?) Was it...for sinister reasons? Or did William Conrad come along and input it? I believe that Conrad did it.
It's possible that I'm wrong and will be eating crow when the second season of Stampede comes out, but as of now, I believe that it makes the best sense. There isn't a record of them like this in the manga. There is the Tesla record, but no trace of them on the main ship's computer.
First of all, I'm not sure the ship's computer would just be tracking them and making its own record, even with advanced AI, nor would have a deliberate file-placement. Second, Rem isn't stupid. She tells Nai to eat and drink like a human and to hide his powers. She does this for a reason. It is doubtful that she would keep records that the rest of the crew could be in danger of discovering should an emergency happen with the ship that would cause them to wake up. Third, the idea that Rem would have something sinister in mind for them is grossly out of character. I've seen that idea fronted. I think those people haven't read the manga. That leaves... The bastard, himself. In the manga, Conrad had opposed the experiments on Tesla along with Rem (according to her). He met Vash and Knives briefly when he'd not gone back to sleep right after the emergency situation on the ship and had snuck around. He was accepting of them, found them quite a wonderment and agreed with Rem to keep them a secret. He later wound up being recruited by Knives, but was more of his personal doctor / Plant-scientist and wasn't involved with the Gung Ho Guns / was just another recruit, held at literal knife-point and looking for atonement. In Stampede, he took a level in Asshole. He wasn't the greatest of guys in the manga, but he took a real hit in Stampede, doing gruesome human experimentation on Wolfwood and Livio personally, as well as on Rollo (who is sort of a new, Stampede-only character given how much he differs from the original Monev's origins). In Stampede, much like the recruitment meeting in the manga - Knives knew Conrad. He sought him out. While Knives *could* have found out Conrad purely from records, I think they'd met before, on the ship, just like in the manga. So.... since these suspicious dossiers exist, since Knives knew Conrad on sight and since Conrad is much more of a bastard in Stampede, (I think he was more involved with Tesla, too) I'm going to wager a guess that an incident happened like what happened in the manga with the crew waking up, Rem putting them back to beddy-bye, Conrad staying awake to meet the twins... And then at some point, putting their data into his research-computer. In other words, I think in the reboot, he gave Rem false assurances, convinced her of his remorse over Tesla when he probably wasn't as remorseful as he let on. Or perhaps something more complicated is afoot. Nai he saw as a "perfect being" - untouchable, the perfect bridge between Plants and Humans. Meanwhile, Vash is in the same folder as Tesla - perhaps, as a Plant with some human needs (food / water / sleep) and no apparent powers (until the push-pull thing comes into play), Conrad sees him as "the expendable twin," and thus a good test subject model, just like Tesla. He certainly treated Vash as such in the Soup.
#trigun#trigun stampede#trigun maximum#vash the stampede#millions knives#rem saverem#william conrad#trigun analysis#trigun stampede analysis#fan theory#william conrad is a bastard
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Trigun and Christianity
In lieu of trigun Stampedes choice to make Wolfwood an undertaker instead of a priest (to, well, my disappointment), I thought it might be interesting to look at some of the Christian themes in Trigun, and then also look at why they might have decided to choose for Wolfwood to be a undertaker then a preist, and a potential reason to why Trigun has these Christian themes. Also, btw, this is chock full of manga spoilers so, beware!
To start it off... trigun is actually... pretty heavy on Christian themes. Fuck man, the main character is basically an angel, and in one of the first volumes they literally describe the plants as something divine (although they are later declared to be something humans made... But nevertheless the very clear imagery is there). Also what features very strongly is pacifism and the themes of unconditional love; Vash's refusal to kill coming from believing that going forward, anyone can change, even when he is literally being harmed or attempted to be killed by others. These themes of pacifism and unconditional love are very Christian, and Vash's actions very much centre him as a Jesus-like character. In fact, even the way that he (and knives) was born, a virgin birth, also could be seen as an allusion, as well as the way that he holds a physical form as a human while being more than human- Jesus being considered a 'son of man' while also being the son of God; ie, something in-between, something both divine and human. Knives as well is written in that angelic and divine light, although he is done so in a dark opposite of Vash, with an emphasis on his 'divinity' for imagery as he is obsessed with it. Interestingly, contrast to Knives, Vash, who goes around as a human, is multiple times called a Devil for his reputation, although he is the one that actually is virtuous... This in a way also alludes to him as a Jesus-like figure, as that Jesus was ultimately sought after by the authorities and in some places hated and even driven away by people.
12 disciples
As well, Nightow is pretty blatant that the gung ho guns, of which there are 12, is a allusion to the 12 disciples; hell, Wolfwood calls them straight up disciples when he is at Jeneora Rock. One might argue that then whether that posits Knives as a Jesus figure as that they follow Knives directions, or if one would consider Vash to be the Jesus figure, as the 12 literally seek out, and 'follow' Vash, and of which one of them literally betrays (although, technically, Wolfwoods betrayal goes both ways). However, I don't think that argument is really one that matters, as it's more of the aesthetic of Christianity that Nightow likes in this matter, not the philosophical implications.
As well, as mentioned above, Wolfwood is very Judas-coded; he gets close to Vash, only to inevitably betray him and deliver him up to his fate, while clearly being torn up about it. Vash is not surprised at all when Wolfwood tells him that he was one of the gung ho guns, and you get the sense that he knew about it all along, and knew exactly what he was walking into. Yet he still loves and forgives Wolfwood for all of it. Which... is exactly the same thing that occurs between Judas and Jesus, Jesus willingly going with Judas even though he knew what lay before him.
Wolfwood
As well, quite obviously adding to the heavy Christian themes of trigun, is that Wolfwood calls himself a priest. Although indeed it's part of his front, it's clear Wolfwood in the manga is religious, challenging and calling upon God in response to seeing the Knives born, and his response to the fifth moon incidence where he questions if it was the hand of God (which, actually, is caused by Vash's hand... again alluding to the 'divinity' of Vash and Knives). This clear religious affiliation continues through the series, such as when he is rescuing Vash from Knives, and even praying while he is on the ship with the people that helped vash.
Wolfwood also throughout the series is very clearly is morally wraught with guilt over his choices and sins... Something that's very Catholic/Christian. Hell, the fact that the punisher, the insignia of his murderous profession, is a literal heavy cross that Wolfwood carries with him, is poetic irony; he's literally carrying around the embodiment of his sins and his guilt from his profession and choices, which weighs both heavily on his physical body but also him emotionally. Wolfwood's guilt over his sins and choices comes to its climax when he's about to die when rescuing Vash from Knives, after betraying him; where he questions whether he can be forgiven for what he has done and whether he was wrong, and in response Vash saves him, declaring that he is not wrong; not wrong to go against orders, leaving his vocation of being a murderer behind, in trying to save Vash and moving forward. In declaring Wolfwood that he was not wrong, what Vash (heavily implied divine, Jesus-like character) is declaring is that Wolfwood can be forgiven for his sins, is already forgiven for his betrayal (unconditional love, anyone?), and that Wolfwood can change, that his past doesn't define him, because his future is also a blank ticket.
As well, this is followed up later by Wolfwoods confession to Vash that he hates killing:
The confession and the way he phrases it- seeing all humans as his brethren (although, in this sense he may be speaking tangentially about Livio) is something that also has Christian overtones. (Also, the way that they mention Vash sees the whole of humans as his relatives, also ties into that; except personally I'd argue that's more of a Indigenous view then a Christian, but theres plenty of things that overlap with other theologies and philosophies within the manga that aren't just characteristics of Christianity).
Redemption via acts
There's also a theme of redemption via acts, which both Wolfwood and Vash lean into heavily as a result of guilt from their 'sins', something that is very... Well, again, Christian, especially Catholic. Vash, from being unable to stop Knives and having obliterated July and just his and knives general existence, and Wolfwood from his profession, and so they both struggle with immense feelings of guilt. As a result both are very self-sacrificing; Vash very obviously so throughout the series, and Wolfwood in a quieter way, in choosing to continue to work to protect the orphanage, even though he desperately wants to escape the life he leads and hates killing people. They both don't believe they deserve to be loved because of the weight of their sins, and so they redeem themselves the only way they know how by self-sacrifice; this literally causing Wolfwoods death as he didn't reach our to Vash for help, and is evident in the way Legato looks at Vash at the end and realizes he sees a man that only sees himself as a tool and hates himself. This belief of Vash's that he doesn't deserve love/nice things is something that is also interesting, because he so aggressively pushes the 'blank ticket of the future', ie, unconditional love, while clearly being unable to apply it to himself.
Tldr: the point is, Trigun is very heavily Christian themed, both in aesthetic and philosophy, and the characterization of both Vash and Wolfwood reflect that. The show is rampant with such Christian philosophical themes as unconditional love, sin and guilt, confessions, forgiveness and redemption through self-sacrifice; for aesthetic ones, well, literal 'angels' as main characters, Wolfwood being a priest and carrying a cross, the 12 gung ho guns as 12 disciples.
Wolfwood as an Undertaker
Since Trigun is so heavily Christian themed, it makes it... well, a bit of a strange choice to pull the fact that Wolfwood is a preist out, since him as a preist further emphasizes the moral quandries within the story and the themes of sins/guilt/forgiveness and unconditional love. However, as one other post here on tumblr mentioned, stampede as an iteration of trigun is more directed towards a more modern and Japanese audience, some of which can be seen with the revamp of the character designs to make them more relatable, and I think they mentioned some specific character traits with Meryl. This re-vamping, especially one specifically for a Japanese audience might explain why Wolfwood becomes a undertaker instead of being a Christian priest. Nightow in the back panels in the manga is clearly is very enthralled with American culture- and his knowledge and love of the American genres shows pretty strongly in the themes and the setting for Trigun. In fact, the 1998 anime was better recieved in the west then in Japan, and a possible likelihood for it's higher popularity within the Americas is going to be directly because of the western audience being more familiar with the Western genre, as well as specifically, the Christian themes within the show (since western countries cultures are Christian based, even if one wasn't raised religious). As well, compared to the other typical gunslinging space western anime, Cowboy bebop, Trigun contains more Christian themes, which would make it less relatable, and less popular to the Japanese audience (of course there are many other differences in the shows, so I would be reluctant to chalk it up to just the religious themes in trigun- hell, Cowboy Bebop makes some great criticisms of capitalism that is not present in Trigun). Circling back to them revamping the show, if they are trying to make it more relatable to a Japanese audience, then removing more overly American influences, such as one of the characters literally being a Christian priest, would fit that bill quite well.
Trigun and Christianity... Why?
Also, I personally think that Nightow didn't exactly mean to make a story that is really heavily Christian themed. My sneaking suspicion from reading chapter 0, is the Nightow thought that writing a western with a main character gunslinger that is a pacifist would be a fun and interesting prospect, and then when he began to elaborate on it, he began to pull in more western (both cultural and genre wise) themes and aesthetics into the story, resulting in something that is very heavily Christian themed in the end.
EDIT: it's been raised to my attention by the lovely @trigum, that it says in the wikipedia on Nightow that he was raised buddhist and converted to Catholicism, although there is no source for that information. If so, this would, well, very obviously explain why Trigun is so heavy on Christian themes and negates the paragraph above. I'm not giving him enough credit then, my apologies Nightow!
EDIT 2:
Edit 3 (Feb 3): made a somewhat part 2, specifically looking at the phrase the 'bride of Christ'.
#trigun#trigun spoilers#trigun maximum#trigun anime#trigun 1998#trigun stampede#wolfwood#nicholas d. wolfwood#vash the stampede#knives millions#feels wierd to write about Christianity#uh. yeah if thjs is incoherent please ignore me hah#also not to say that trigun is a very Christian bit of media but also??? it kinda is?#as ex christian the amount of guilt coming off these characters is so v me in middle school figuring out im queer#also sad about wolfwood not being a preist for both poetic irony but also. let's be honest that poetic irony is hot#also like. nightow best charcter design ever. sorry no one will be able to design a better character then trained assasin priest#who carries a huge cross machine gun and is full of guilt over his sins#and loves children#is this also tangentally vashwood#yes. ignore me#vashwood#if ur like ur writing is rambly sorry! i know a bit of it is repetitive#do i care? nope not any more#nightow slapping both vash and wolfwood: these boys can fit so much christain guilt in them
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English version DR:THH Gameplay Log #1
⚠️ Note that this Gameplay Log contains many spoilers, not only for THH but also for the entire Danganronpa franchise.
Finally, I started playing the English version of DR:THH, which I had been wanting to do for a long time!
I've only played the original (Japanese) version, and have never seen any playthroughs of the English version. So I am very excited to see how it is translated into English!
The iOS version can be played with English text and audio, so I'll be playing the English version on the iPad and the Japanese version on the Nintendo Switch at the same time. I've only played a little bit, but there are already so many things that interest me that it will probably take me quite a while to finish it. 😅 But anyway! I would like to keep a log of translations that I find interesting. So let's start with the prologue!:
It is interesting that the EN text says, "Which makes Hope's Peak a pretty fitting name", while the JA text says, "まさに、希望の学園と呼ぶに、ふさわしい". The literal translation would be "Academy of Hope", but the EN text focuses on the name "希望(Hope)ヶ('s)峰(Peak)学園(Academy)". In fact, the name "Hope's Peak Academy" is really a literal translation, and miraculously, it works without any special arrangement. XD
By the way, the name of a school like "⚪︎⚪︎ヶ峰 " is a common name and sounds quite natural as a school name. As is often the case in other countries, the names of Japanese schools are often based on place names, and words such as "峰(peak)," "丘(hill)," "北(north)" or "南(south)" are often added to the end of the name to describe the location of the school. So I didn't have such a strong impression of the word "峰(peak)" when I was playing the original version, but it is interesting to see how well it is used in the EN version. 😄
Incidentally, the use of the term "希望の学園" in the JA text has an important meaning: the subtitle of the original version of DR:THH is "希望の学園と絶望の高校生 (Academy of Hope and High School Student* of Despair)" *It is quite difficult to decide whether it should be translated as Student or Students! I chose the singular because I think it probably refers to Junko Enoshima. So this is also the text that explains what the part of the subtitle, Academy of Hope, is about.
I feel that this English translation is now a bit inconsistent with the reality of the academy. In the Japanese version, it says that "新入生の募集などは行なっておらず(the academy does not advertise for new students)", but the EN text says "No ordinary student could enroll here." The original version is also inconsistent, as the Reserve Course was probably not initially conceived, but I feel that the EN text is a bit more incongruous.
The translation "a hopelessly average" is nice. Sorry I forgot to take a screenshot of this part in the JA text, so I don't have an image for comparison, but the original text was "どうしようもなく普通". The original text does not have a meaning related to hope, but the EN text is related to hope.
The original text here is quite quirky, so the English translation has changed the wording quite a bit. I'm not sure if this translation is very nice because I'm not sure if this translation is very nice because I'm not sure about the nuances of "I can't even say I'm your "everyday hero" type". Well, it would have been a difficult sentence to translate. (I can't really go into it because it's so hard to explain!)
Hmmmm, honestly, I am not convinced by this translation. What Makoto said here is that the fact that he has the normal idea of starting by introducing himself is in itself proof that he is a very normal person, but the EN text seems to have a completely different meaning... Perhaps it was difficult to put it into a short sentence and had to be changed significantly.
I didn't know that "前向き" translated to "gung-ho"! Was this translated as gung-ho because of the whole Danganronpa image of a gun? 🤔
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The pronunciation (or rather the pitch) of the character's name also feels fresh in the English version! "Makoto" is pronounced almost the same as in Japanese, but "Naegi" is pronounced quite differently. I think other characters may have different pronunciations from the Japanese, so I will summarize the differences when I see the introductions of all the characters.
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what the fuck is even happening in trimax anymore. a bunch of the gung ho guns go up to Legato while he’s in his fuckin sarcophagus or something absolutely devouring a pineapple or perhaps waffle (I can’t tell what it’s supposed to be *EDIT: IVE BEEN INFORMED THAT IT’S PROBABLY A STEAK. WHY) like some kind of rabid beast and then Mr. Hornfreak walks right up to him and goes “wow this place is a freakshow. i dont respect literally any of you people” and no one disputes it and then he and tries to shoot Legato right there
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Onto volume 3!
The looks vash and ww share at the end last volume and now. Ww’s first though is that vash knows what s up and also is a bastard. Which yeah, but also I think vash look says clearly “I know I can trust you with this”. despite the ordeal with rai-dei that clearly still affects them – especially Wolfwood – vash seems certain on where Wolfwood stands in that fight. I mena, after his immediate reaction to leonofs play…
I love seeing Wolfwood fight. No words to eloquently describe it but damn
I think it’s very interesting how many people (including ww) that fight vash see the pain, the anger, the emptiness and all in his eyes. And they are not WRONG but at the same time no one seems to realize that despite this all, vash still is full of genuine love and hope as well. with vash that is not mutually exclusive.
The tiny interlude of meryl, milly, Jessica and the tomas is sending me
They never say it but c’mon, its clear vash has AT LEAST a general idea what wolfwoods deal is or at the very least that has ulterior motives and is not just tagging with vash for the fun of it. At the same time, literally none of the gung ho guns has even a silver of trust in ww loyalty. Which, fair enough. I don’t think ww has much of a set loyalty at that point beyond trying not to die and keeping the orphanage as save as he can.
Okay, look, vash is getting through a lot, all the time. And I know there is worse to come, yet what leonof does to vash with the puppets looking like the people from home attacking him and just…. Everything about that is a special case of fucking evil man.
Listen I like manga brad but his hairstyle….
Vash trying to save Emilio despite it all. Uff
Milly and meryl to wolfwoods rescue. What a break in the tension haha. Sorry ninelives, you weren’t prepared for them
There is something objectively really funny about meryl and milly in this. like, they just so happened to find Jessica, get back to the hidden city vash calls home, accidentally save Wolfwood and then just.. decide, jup we gotta help nurse that one. like they have so little context for the whole mess, for this hidden city, anything really. Hell, they barely have context for Wolfwood! They literally just met him briefly on the bus ride after he nearly dried up in the desert… then they saw him two years later with vash during the whole assassin insurance agent thing but it’s not like they said anything to him then. Even funnier from the point of view of the people there. “you know that guy?” – “sorta. He’s a priest we met once when he was stranded in the desert like two years ago. Come to think of it, last we saw him he was with vash”
not to mention how do they know vash? well they are working for an insurance company investigating all the property damage vash causes
Home took quite the hit and oh man vash feels so guilty about it all but luida makes it clear he is family and if anything, he and Wolfwood saved them. And judging by the other peoples reaction or lack of disagreement, they see it like that too. Like vash feels he needs to do it all alone and there are many people out there that hurt him but there are also the people that love him so, so much
Oh Wolfwood. Whatever he’s dreaming, it has him sniffle… but as soon as he wakes up he’s like, wtf and ouch, then the next thing he does is argue with vash. in like the span of two pages
so, vash thanking Wolfwood who immediately points out that he killed. To which Vash acknowledges that is true but also that Wolfwood spilling blood did save a lot of people. That is what I meant in my last post about ‘vash being too caught up in his own way of living’ and his personal moral code. What happened at home doesn’t make vash change his own actions or believes but I think he realized in that moment that he wasn’t fair to Wolfwood before. It was a bit of a reality check id say. He accused Wolfwood of being a coward and giving up easily, but it’s not at all about taking the easy way out for Wolfwood. Its him doing what he can and NEEEDS to in order to keep himself and other save. vash may not agree with it but he’s starting to understand Wolfwood better. I think vash is so used to do things on his own and not having companions for any extended periods of time that it can be easy to forget that what applies for you will not applies for others or be feasible. Or the only right thing to do.
Vash showing the girls the deep sleep chambers. I think there is something really sweet to it. Like he’s so happy to show them something that is also special to him.
See, we know knives sent Wolfwood to be vash’s guid or whatever you wanna call it. So it’s kind of easy to forget (and I haven’t quite realized the degree of it before reading trimax) how little Wolfwood actually knows. I mean, he did impersonate chapel so… right until he met vash ans knives in jeneora rock, Wolfwood clearly had no idea what these two were capable off. And he has realized vash isn’t your regular human but I think only after seeing the picture with Jessica does he realize truly just how far away from human vash is. Like, some of the gung ho guns, even ww, push whats normal human too but vash is another level.
The conversation with ww and luida. It gives us some insight on vash. but its also kinda funny because it basically boils down to:
WW: what the fuck is he and what the hell is his deal?
Luida: well, hes not really human but he’s not trying to set himself apart much. Been around for a really long time, most of which is actually really horrible for him. But he’s just out there, trying to help where he can, being kind, just an overall nice guy don’tcha think?
I’m not actually sure how much luida really knows about vash. she sure knows about knives and I think july and stuff too aand obviously how he doesn’t really age and all. But I’m not sure she knows about the fall or vash as an independent plant specifically. But I don’t think it even matters in that scene. Because what she says is yes, vash is not a normal human but she puts all the focus on what kind of PERSON he is above everything else.
Which I think is especially perfect with Wolfwood, who at that point is still very much struggling to understand vash beyond the rumors, the destruction and his unnatural… everything. Mostly because vash as a person isn’t making much sense to ww currently (its ok ww vash is a complicated guy)
#trigun maximum#trimax#reading trimax lets goo#trigun#vash the stampede#nicholas d. wolfwood#not gonna tag everyone i mention just in passing but oh well#the thing with milly and meryl and the tomas was really#really fun though
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