#+ using a -genic label at all for AGES

[007isproendo]

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Hey. We are a former anti-endo that became pro-endo. We are still learning about m-spec mono and contradictory labels. Feel free to correct us if we say any bullshits. We are anti radqueers and anti-pro/com/darkshipper/fic.

We are a C-DID system, but we do not feel like we are that disordered ourselves. We are traumaendo, with a lot more of traumagenic origins than endogenic ones but they are still here. We have little to no empathy for people we are not close to. We don't use tonetags and we don't want them to be used on us. We will use tone clarificators and that is what we ask you to use on us.

Under the cut, you will see information about us. (Headmates who will use this account the most will have a separate introduction).

System introduction:

We are only "out" on Tumbrl and Discord. We won't give any other social of ours.

System name: The M16 System Collective names: بوماني, James, Муудсан, Собака and 007 Collective titles: It who is rotten, The rotting God, بوماني who bites and Муудсан/He who is an agent Collective pronouns: it/he/rot/dog/paw/h3/they/spy/Q/hi

Nationality/origins: Slavic, Mongolian, Egyptian Genders: intersex, transmasc, (noviaeus)[https://pin.it/51DxwF2RD], (rotboy)[https://www.tumblr.com/lovesse/723358810895433728/gifts-from-the-angels-above-me-%E3%85%A4?source=share], (dog intersex)[https://pin.it/2Lw3KHCop] Sexuality: Achillean, demi-romantic Terms: non human, dog + masc ones preferred

Disorders: auADHD, (NPD-ish)[https://pin.it/5AiPi2rq0], hypersexal, photophobic Plural terms: we don't care, just don't use parts, personalities or pwDID Genic labels:

Traumagenic ones;

(Apagenic)[https://pluralpedia.org/w/Apagenic], (cultgenic)[https://pluralpedia.org/w/Cultgenic], ,(edugenic)[https://pluralpedia.org/w/Edugenic], (mentagenic)[https://pluralpedia.org/w/Mentagenic],

Endogenic ones:

(Luckgenic)[https://pluralpedia.org/w/Luckgenic], (autigenic)[https://pluralpedia.org/w/Autigenic]

Not sharing body age, just if you are 19+ don't DM us and everyone keep all interaction SFW.

Just a short DNI list:

Radqueers, along with transIDs supporters Transmeds People who don't translate typing quirks People who demonize disorders Fake-claimers Ableists Com/pro/darkshipper/fic. Basic DNIs criteria ig

[luminae-system]

(Danny, as almost always, speaking)

Venty ramble-ish post of the day under the cut as promised in the update (ended up a long post, sorry)

If anyone wants a quick summary, there is a tldr bolded and green at the bottom! Would love some advice if anyone is nice enough to share their experiences and stuff.

Tw: General negative thinking, obsessive/repetitive thinking, ocd-like tendencies, lots of self-doubt, system doubt/self denial, brief neglect(? Descriptions, brief abuse mention (tell us if we missed something else)

I've been thinking of System Origins (xyz-genic) lately. Something about messy thoughts and obsessive patterns and stuff, our psychiatrist calls it "cow chewing" or something like that (since January, our memory has been shit, sorry).

So. I'm afraid to label us as traumagenic because like, as I mentioned in the notes of a reblog this week, we never went through traditional abuse, we had food and education and shelter and all that good stuff.

Maybe mom was down in the dumps herself, and dad was always away on a buissness trip, not to mention mom having to deal with three kids at the same time... so we never really got enough love and attention. We were loved ofc, and I am grateful for all mom did for us.

But like... her best wasn't enough in many ways, that's why we're in therapy since like 11 and always go off the deep end whenever we try to go long periods without a session (monthly sessions seems to be the stretch/limit). And well, we have more diagnoses than fingers in one hand already, wonderful! So funny! Amazing! /sarcasm

So, anyways, back to the topic. We never really lacked anything, were never abused, and the emotional neglect wasn't thaaat bad and totally not on propose. So... was it enough to form a traumagenic CDD system? Are we really disordered?

I do have emotional amnesia in the rare times we've managed to get someone else to be the main fronter, and we do have some ptsd symptoms but like... we do have a separate ptsd diagnosis bc of my ex-bf (another story/post, bad bad guy) and the childhood ptsd-like symptoms are nowhere in the same level as when we first got the diagnosis of the other ptsd.

And looking at posible diagnosis, Partial DID (pdid) is so so so close to what we experience! That's like, us! Main frontstuck host with other headmates acting as 'advisors' and less fronting and more passive influence and co-conciousness (even if we are monoconcious, it's a bit weird, don't wanna think too hard about it)

But like... I didn't start having "multiple people in my head" until like I was 14. Or atleast being conscious of it I guess. That's way past the age threshold for identity consolidation and thus traumagenic system formation...

So are we "disordered enough" to qualify as a disordered/CDD system? Would we make a mockery of "real" disordered systems to self-diagnose that?

I've been thinking of sharing with our current psychologist. The last one dismissed my concerns and said I was being a hypochondriac (god, it's always that excuse! Even with our physical health, which, yes, another post/story).

I'm scared of being wrong. What if I really am just talking to myself and making a sorta tulpamancy thing on accident? Ofc nothing wrong with that, but it would change our system dynamics a lot.

On the flipside, if we really are a traumagenic system... now what? I doubt there are any specialized psychologists for systems in our town... so yeah. Not sure what we would do after a hypothetical informal/formal diagnosis by our psychologist and/or psychiatrist.

Gosh. This is... a lot. And I tried to be brief. Sorry, and if anyone did read it all, thank you so much for caring about us! (Or being curious I guess lol). I'd love some advice

So, tldr: No abuse, only some emotional neglect on accident. Is it trauma enough for traumagenic? We disordered enough for a diagnosis? What if yes? What if not?

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Bonus info for anyone(s) who want to give us advice (thank you!!!!)

System of 3

One front-stuck host and two "advisors"

Daena is a sorta reformed persecutor and sorta trauma holder?

Aelius is our protector (he is taking a long nap/trip somewhere in the brain, miss him)

Danny (me) and Daena are two sides of the same coin, share a lot of traits and stuff even if personality is different, basically like a median system.

Aelius is fully separate from us gals

Dissociation has been very common since we were a very young kid, especially derealization, though depersonalization did happen a lot too. Therapy has helped a lot in terms of grounding

Not much in terms of Amnesia I think? Like, maybe I'm not aware of something, but we do remember our childhood well enough to tell anecdotes and funny stories

We do have emotional amnesia tho, mostly with taking care of the body and household chores (remembering something but like, I did not do that. The memory spawned by itself???)

Uhhh ask for more details if needed!!!

[collecting-clovers]

Hello! We have never actually made an introduction post, so we're going to do that right now.

We are The Clover Patch, aka Clovers. We are a plural system and we choose not to use -genic labels. We don't find them personally useful, but we do not discriminate based on system identity or experience. We do not have a singular host, but four co-hosts who rotate every week or so. We are mostly fictives or fictive-adjacent folks.

Bodily we are an adult in our 30s and are only interested in speaking with other adults (body age 18+ only). We are all Queer in various ways, and we are Jewish. We speak English, Spanish and a little bit of Yiddish.

We don't have a DNI or anything. Just don't be an ass and we'll be good. Don't pull us into any syscourse, we do not care.

Our main fronters are:

🦈Lex, he/him/his, possibly original body owner but we can't be sure. Inworld form is a demon (inworld type called Neha), also can turn into a big shark.

🍓Beyond, he/him/his, arrived 2009, fictive from Death Note: Another Note, the Los Angeles BB Murder Cases. Part Human, part Reaper (Shinigami specifically).

🐍Anthony J Crowley, he/him/his, arrived 2014, fictive from Good Omens (BBC Radio play). Fallen Angel.

👽Ellen, she/her/hers, arrived 2013, 2nd gen fictive (daughter of two other inworld fictives, Diana and Kassie). Naphil.

Syathel, she/he/they/whatever falls out of your mouth, arrived 2010, post-fictive of Sebastian Michaelis of Kuroshitsuji/Black Butler. Concubus.

We are happy to talk to any other adult systems, especially those with fictives (any "source", not just ones shared with one of us). Just shoot us an ask or a DM.

Great to meet you all!

[resvrrected-collective]

None of the other hosts decided to make an intro post so I'm doin' it myself 👍

Look alive, sunshine...

Howdy :) We're Resurrect or Resurrected (usually stylized as Resvrrect like our URL here), we're a somewhat large system of 80+ that does not use -genic labels. Doubles, endos, & all others are generally welcome except assholes obviously. We don't really dislike any pronouns, but he/they is heavily preferred here. Also keep in mind that we are minor-bodied (16), in case that makes you uncomfortable. We don't mind interacting with anyone of any age, though.

We have four hosts, three of them run this blog while the fourth mostly posts from his own separate account. The hosts on this one are : Gerard, Ghoul, and Fun (me).

All we really ask is that you keep syscourse, real person shipping, and pro/comshipping of any kind the hell away from us. We don't mind interactions from anti-endos as long as no drama arises (don't listen to that part of the DNI on our Carrd. I'll delete it when I get around to it, it's late as of writing this and I'm not sure if I'll be fronting tomorrow).

A shortened ver of our DNI list :

Basically no creeps or their apologists. MAPs, zoos, necros, waycest & venom sib shippers, pro/comshippers/anti-antis, and the like. It does not matter if you're pro or anti-contact.

Frerard shippers. Those who equate the Killjoys to MCR (ex. see me, Fun Ghoul, as Frank Iero) are on thin fucking ice and I am side-eyeing you every time I post about my Party Poison

Anyone skeptical of fictionkin & factkin, introjects (especially factives considering one of our hosts is one), and anyone who equates us to cosplayers or roleplayers

"Gender critical"/TERFs/SWERFs/transmedicalists/truscum, you get the idea. If you have a problem with non-binary identities, xenogenders, neopronouns, they/them, it/its, get outta here

Additionally, anti-mspec gays/lesbians and those who conflate bi/pan/omni

Strictly NSFW/kink-centered blogs

Zionists

And lastly, anyone who knew our system members prior to us changing our name to Resurrected.

Some of us send asks off anon and just sign them with our name. Others send anons and sign off with emojis (you'll probably see at least one of us if you know Party or Gerard).

Some of our sign-offs :

🔧 - Fun Ghoul/Nathan (mine!)

🧨 - Ghoul

🪓🖤 - Party

🍒🦇 - Bat

[spirits-gender-coining]

Welcome to Spirits-Gender-Coining!

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This is a blog for our Xenogenders, Terms, Labels, Flags, etc that we have coined, created and designed.

Any flags or terms we post that have previously been coined by someone else can be considered a recoin or an alternative flag, just a heads up!

Our previous account was @ CrisisDailyPost on Twitter / X, but due to reasons we left that app.

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More information below the cut!

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The Owners

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This Blog is owned by a Mixed Origin System.

We support systems of all origins, mspec lesbians/gays/straights, lesboys and turigirls, xenogender and neopronoun users, SFW age regression and pet regression, Otherkin, Therian and Fictionkin folks, Selfshippers (as long as it's not proship), and... probably some other stuff.

We DON'T support proship / all the other alternatives, Radqueers, TransIDs, RCTA, pro-contact harmful paraphilias, and... probably some other stuff.

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We have no DNI (Do not Interact) list, mainly because in our eyes they rarely work. Anyone can interact with our posts, but if you make us uncomfortable we will block you.

Our terms/flags are free to use regardless of wether we agree with your opinions or not, just don't use our flags to spread hate or claim something about us based on our flags.

Credit for our flags and terms is not necessary, but always appreciated. Just don't claim the terms and flags as your own, please.

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Please only request flags when our bio says "Requests are open".

We do Flags for:

Xenogenders, Pronouns, Plurality* (-genic, roles, Introject), Otherkin, Fictionkin, Therian, Autism, ADHD, BPD, Depression, Maladaptive Daydreaming, age/pet regression, and any/all Labels that we agree with.

We don't do Flags for:

Disabilities we don't have, DID/OSDD/UDD*, Factkin, Radqueers, and probably some other stuff.

*we don't do flags for DID/OSDD/UDD plurals, because we don't have those disorders. However - DID/OSDD/UDD folks can still use our flags. Hope this makes sense!

Note: Just because we can do your request, doesn't mean we will. We may refuse your request for any reason. Please respect our decisions in this case.

Another Note: Requests can and will take time. We're also just humans /j (joke). The more detailed your request is (name, colors, stripes, symbols, description, ...) the easier the creation process is for us.

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[controlledchaoscollective]

You know that Neurogenic and Paingenic are both Trauma genic too, right? As in, the trauma of having chronic pain and the trauma of growing up neurodivergent are both enough by themselves to cause DID/OSDD, let alone together.

And most, if not all systems are protogenic - they just may not realize it until they're older. Since many systems form before the age of 3-4 (i.e. before you're even really capable of forming long-term memories at all), you're kind of protogenic by default - you just realized you were a system sooner than others may do.

I'm not anti-endo, I'm just saying that Neuro/pain/traumagenic when put together aren't really mixed-origin - it's just different types of traumagenic, which is normal for DID/OSDD, as is being a system from a very young age.

anon. respectfully, get the fuck off my blog.

do not tell other people how to label themselves. we will label ourselves however the fuck we please, i don’t give a shit what you think, because you don’t get any say in how we formed. we don’t considered our pain or neurodivergence trauma because we don’t experience any post-traumatic symptoms from it. stop preaching theory of structural dissociation bullshit, not all systems were born plural. DID/OSDD is not the only way to be plural. everything you just said screams anti-endo.

disrespectfully, get the fuck away from us

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