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WHY IS THIS FAN DESIGN BETTER THAN WHAT WE GOT😭💔
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Stolas' "I've always thought so highly of you, I didn't think you think so low of me" is some disgusting, manipulative gaslighting. Its what abusive people do when called out for their actions: try to deflect by victimizing themselves and make the person they hurt look unreasonable.
I hate that there aren't more ppl who realize how manipulative and gaslighty this is.
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my BIGGEST grip with hazbin hotel as an artist is 100% the designs as you can physically tell how little thought went into the designs of the main cast. Vivziepop has a very strong "Design first- Character later" philosophy and it annoys me sm. Because!! The characters barely look like their supposed "inspirations"!!!!!!!! Alastor doesn't look like a creole man from the 1930s! Charlie doesn't look like royalty!! Lucifer looks like a teenager!!!!
Like i hate helluva just as much for the writing but AT LEAST the designs are actually pretty good! And the reason is that- The designs were actually MADE for the characters!
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The laziness with fem presenting styles is just as annoying as the masc one…
They all have the same fashion sense… if you think about it most of these outfits could be swapped with maybe a few colour tweaks and you wouldn’t see much of a fashion difference. As if it never even was a consideration in developing their personalities.
Practically the same … and she is considered royalty or at least someone at pop stardom?
BONUS: I’m sure we have all gotten quite sick of the “X”s all over the place… Cherri, Vaggie, Verosika, Carmine
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"Hot take but the sins' designs are so ass and they do not represent the circus theme AT ALL"
Submitted by @yearnoyama
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design issues. All the same head 🤔
Guess who’s who hellaverse edition! This isn’t altered like some… this is straight traced without the hair horns and tails as to make it clear what the huge problem with these designs are.
they aren’t unique. They are dressed up to look unique but at their base level they are exactly the same design just decorated with a billion bips and bops to give the appearance of diversity. When you get rid of all the visual noise you are left with the same person…
personally I was quite offended by this because it’s used merely to trick and bully critics. First you can’t use someone who isn’t even in the main cast- second you can’t physically alter those characters body shapes to prove a point. That immediately muddles the evidence to your own benefit. (Vaggie’s body does not look like that and they used like the only 3 unique designs- shoving in adam to balance out the white and purposefully deliberately changing their colours)
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as an ex hazbin artist something I noticed when drawing Stella was that every time someone would come to insult her before saying your art was good and that really felt like a punch in the face every time. I hated it…
it was like “I hate that dumb bitch but nice art” or “I want to hang her but I love your style!!” Like that isn’t a fucking compliment. Fuck OFF!!!!
I barely see this in the Valentino art space, you could literally draw Val being “redeemed” and people would suck your toes for it. Draw Stella once and feel like the whole world is giving you underhanded compliments.
That's what happens when you have a misogynistic, hivemind cult of a fandom.
Do anything that deviates from Viv's view and they'll relentlessly dogpile on you, but if you draw any of the two rapists (Stolas and Valentino) in any situation, and I mean, IN ANY, NO MATTER HOW UNHINGED AND HORRIFYING IT IS IN RETROSPECTIVE, just like you said, they'll grovel to your feet without question.
And Anon, I'm so sorry you had to face all that, and that's not only coming from the perspective of an emotional person, but also as an artist, I wouldn't stay in a fandom that wouldn't appreciate my art without underhanded compliments, I hope you already managed to distance yourself from that horrible fandom and never look back, because that cult won't miss you, they're way too busy sucking Viv's toes to even give a damn.
Hope you've already found an audience that actually appreciates your art without any of all that bullshit, do not let some braindead morons on the internet kill your passion.
#vivziepop critical#vivziepop criticism#helluva boss criticism#helluva boss critique#helluva critical#helluva boss critical#hazbin hotel critique#hazbin hotel critical#hazbin hotel criticism#hazbin critical
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The background characters designs look cooler than the main cast!
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I recently participated in PitchTHIS! 2023 at the Ottawa International Animation Festival and came in second with my submission "The Breakfast Guild". Here's the demoreel that was made for the pitch. Special thank you to @themornal and @8edhead for providing the voice work.
https://ko-fi.com/paulaperoff My Ko-fi is open if you want to support me so I can make more animations like this.
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We all know of the big indie animated series like Lackadaisy and TADC and Helluva Boss, but what are some of you guys' favorite indie shows that aren't as big?
And heck, if you do have an indie animated show, please do mention it in the replies or reblogs!
With how the community is right now, I want to give the smaller shows a chance to shine and not be overshadowed.
#reblog#indie animation#respiritgina#infinite powers series#infinite powers#respiritgina series#youtube
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Vivziepop making sinners from different periods was pointless because all of them dress, act, and speak similarly. There’s nothing in her characters that properly reflects the decades and environments they lived in. Everyone is modern, making the time they lived and died in irrelevant.
Vivziepop wants her characters to be from varying eras but refuses to do research to make them historically accurate. If she did, the characters and relationships in Hazbin Hotel would be far more interesting.
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Can people please stop using "furry" as a negative thing or as an insult toward Helluva and Hazbin Hotel ?
First of all because yall sounds like 4chan/reddit assholes when you do, the only people I've seen using furry as an insult asside from yall are usually homophobes and abliest assholes, now I am sure that there's assholes in our community, we have idiots who want to kill fans of the show afterall, but we have to be better. Furries aren't a bad thing. Furry/Anthro characters aren't a bad thing. Being a furry doesn't mean you are a zoophile or a pedo.
Second of all because none of the animal characters (asside from hellhounds and the goats) in theses shows really look like the animals they are supposed to be, so calling these shows furry shows is just plain wrong and an insult on furry and anthro media. Beastars is a furry show. Zootopia is a furry movie. Warrior cats is technically a furry book series. HH/HB are not. The animals aren't recognizable as such (most people thought Stella was a white owl or a dove for a good reason, Andrealphus doesn't look much like a peacock asside from the tail which is usually hidden by the robe, Stolas is skinny when owls are round, Mimzie isn't recognizable as a chicken at all.) it's furry-bait at best but that doesn't mean it's accurate rep either.
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Might as well take this opportunity to remind everyone that...
Vivzieopop is transphobic.
2. The pilot was written by several other people because Vivzie by her own admission can't write, and all of them were abused. Here's Ken's experience, Ken being the person responsible for about half of everything everyone loves about the Hazbin Hotel pilot.
3. Vivzie has a rape kink, which many people do, and put it into her show on Amazon Prime (initially without a content warning), which most people don't. Poison was storyboarded by a SPH employee named Raph, who has a massive Angel/Valentino rape kink and had to leave Twitter after making sexual remarks at a 15 year old; the episode is full of references to their fetish works, even quoting them directly.
4. It was Vivzie's choice to replace her pilot cast, who carried her to success and were basically doing volunteer work, with celebrities. They have no grudge against the new voice cast, but there's lingering hurt to this day.
5. Something happened that caused Bento Box to walk, and we don't know just why yet, but Vivzie essentially commissioned Spindlehorse to come in and finish the 8th episode, and paid them a grotesquely low amount to do so. They were given the impression this would be rough, simple work, and found themselves animating on 1s.
6. That this is the extremely condensed list. Vivienne Medrano has been this way for a very, very long time.
#vivziepop critical#hazbin hotel critical#helluva boss critical#vivziepop criticism#hazbin hotel criticism#helluva boss criticism#helluva boss critique#hazbin hotel critique#vivziepop critique
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the contrast between the men and the women regarding the sin roster is destroying me
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We all know of the big indie animated series like Lackadaisy and TADC and Helluva Boss, but what are some of you guys' favorite indie shows that aren't as big?
And heck, if you do have an indie animated show, please do mention it in the replies or reblogs!
With how the community is right now, I want to give the smaller shows a chance to shine and not be overshadowed.
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We all know of the big indie animated series like Lackadaisy and TADC and Helluva Boss, but what are some of you guys' favorite indie shows that aren't as big?
And heck, if you do have an indie animated show, please do mention it in the replies or reblogs!
With how the community is right now, I want to give the smaller shows a chance to shine and not be overshadowed.
#indie animation#vivziepop critical#hazbin hotel critical#helluva boss critical#vivziepop criticism#hazbin hotel criticism#helluva boss criticism#helluva boss critique#hazbin hotel critique#vivziepop critique
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