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better term: cult abuse. trafficking. torture. severe abuse. group abuse. if you don’t want to be that specific and also don’t want to just say ‘abuse’ because you really need people to know specifics while still being vague then im sorry but you’re out of luck. that’s what surviving trauma is sometimes: it’s unfair and it sucks and that doesn’t excuse perpetuating systemic violence against jewish communities. look up svali if you want to know about who your term’s supporters get their information from. allison miller is regularly cited as one of the ‘good sources’ on ramcoa and she cites svali constantly. fritz springmeir and cisco wheeler: also promote illuminati new world order antisemetic conspiracy theories in their ‘studies’ on programming and ramcoa. ellen lacter? also of the isstd like miller? ALSO getting her shit from svali, springmeir, and wheeler. there’s your sources. if you look up anything they’ve published you will see it full of ‘elite bloodline satanic cult’ shit as well as eye lasers, violent homophobia, blood libel, and holocaust denial. those are the people you’re promoting when you use the term ramcoa. that’s what you’re claiming you’re involved in.

Thanks for informing me! I'll be sure to change my language when discussing those forms of abuse.

You dont gotta be rude though/gen, I never said I dont believe ya or that I would never change the terms I use, yknow.

Again thanks 4 informing me :P !!!!

-Warden

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Me when I say I and I still mean someone else in the system.... Cus theyre still me GELP not even tagging this I just find my own writing style funny

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do you really think 'the abuse behind it is REAL and if you don't like it too bad' is a defence of people continuing to use the term ramcoa even though it's steeped in violent antisemitism. are you fr. 'but i want to' is not an excuse to use a term that has such a horrific history and purpose. trauma is not an excuse to perpetuate systemic harm.

U can say things w/o hiding behind anon, yknow. And please send me a better term to use, in that case! Im willing to change my mind, I do comply if I'm sent sources and better alternatives lol

Never said "but I want to 🥺🥺🥺" I just used the term, as I don't know better alternatives for it, lol. The abuse IS real, it does happen, and if you don't like the use of the term, please send an alternative. It's that simple, anon.

-Warden

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Bro just block me at this point!! Im a sideblog and i dunno how to block on sideblogs on mobile. JUST BLOCK ME!!!

Im not even claiming anything im just reacting to what my anons send me....

Also you post on syscringe, which makes you a fucking weirdo and post me there alll you want if you feel like it cus idgaf!! Syscringe users are abd always will be WEIRDOS!!!

Literally js block me

-BILL/DON

feel free to not post this because im not withholding names here but. oh thats dissociative-misinfo saying osdd-1a and 1b dont exist.

WHAAAAT!!!!

(now bro cant say im trying to spread lies! When i wasnt!)

Thats actually insane... Im like half sure its called P-DID sometimes but ppl still often use OSDD as a term for it... Thats so weird of them

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Pls yall my pfp(s) ARENT FROM SPLIT fheyre from IZOMBIE... Bryce Hodgson ISNT IN SPLIT OR GLASS!!!

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Gonna change my pfp to another pic of don e (from izombie! Not split... Gross). They really need to grow eyes. (This is a user of r/systemscringe under a post ABOUT ME!)

!! Dont harass this reddit user, please. !!

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Hey post us again on that dumbass subreddit i suppose! Heres the thing: idc if you guys post endos, to laugh at them, NOBODY CARES!. But you also post people who are suffering with this disorder and claim they're faking. No, the innerworld isnt real, but its a coping technique and if treating it like its real helps someone cope then let them think that. RAMCOA may be a term from SRA and Satanic Panic, but the abuse the term is for is very real and happens every day. You may not like it, but leave people who have suffered from it alone.

I would rather believe a faker, than not believe someone who's suffering.

@/theinfernalcollective made a post about how it's okay to post endogenic systems on r/systemcringe but they post non endo systems there too! they think being clinical diagnosed means they have the qualifications of a medical professional and they fakeclaim undiagnosed did systems

(their reddit username is u/Not_August-Phoenix_)

Anyone who posts on that subreddit is idiotic and shouldnt be viewed as a good person to anyone imo. You know, the infernal cllective has posted @/holder-culture-is anons on that subreddit? Its fucking disgusting. Why cant people keep their thoughts to themselves?

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Thanks kayyourself for reminding me to block theinfernalcollective on this sideblog! I have them blocked on main, so I never got the notification.

And yes posting on that subreddit makes you a big ol loser and fuck off if you use it!

@/theinfernalcollective made a post about how it's okay to post endogenic systems on r/systemcringe but they post non endo systems there too! they think being clinical diagnosed means they have the qualifications of a medical professional and they fakeclaim undiagnosed did systems

(their reddit username is u/Not_August-Phoenix_)

Anyone who posts on that subreddit is idiotic and shouldnt be viewed as a good person to anyone imo. You know, the infernal cllective has posted @/holder-culture-is anons on that subreddit? Its fucking disgusting. Why cant people keep their thoughts to themselves?

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@/theinfernalcollective made a post about how it's okay to post endogenic systems on r/systemcringe but they post non endo systems there too! they think being clinical diagnosed means they have the qualifications of a medical professional and they fakeclaim undiagnosed did systems

(their reddit username is u/Not_August-Phoenix_)

Anyone who posts on that subreddit is idiotic and shouldnt be viewed as a good person to anyone imo. You know, the infernal cllective has posted @/holder-culture-is anons on that subreddit? Its fucking disgusting. Why cant people keep their thoughts to themselves?

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YES TY!! i did have this in mind.. just cant words!!!!

Saying the different "types" arent really like. Thinfs tho doesnt rlly make sense to me cus they do exist! Theyre just not a medical term besides the osdd-1 part of it (at the person anon was talking about, not you!!)

Idk im just a triangle /silly

feel free to not post this because im not withholding names here but. oh thats dissociative-misinfo saying osdd-1a and 1b dont exist.

WHAAAAT!!!!

(now bro cant say im trying to spread lies! When i wasnt!)

Thats actually insane... Im like half sure its called P-DID sometimes but ppl still often use OSDD as a term for it... Thats so weird of them

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feel free to not post this because im not withholding names here but. oh thats dissociative-misinfo saying osdd-1a and 1b dont exist.

WHAAAAT!!!!

(now bro cant say im trying to spread lies! When i wasnt!)

Thats actually insane... Im like half sure its called P-DID sometimes but ppl still often use OSDD as a term for it... Thats so weird of them

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Not really syscourse, but I'm disappointed in singlets who use system features on websites like pronouns.cc. weirdos.

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Please read this if you follow @pipinghot-systemtakes or have interacted with their posts:

I have been debating on whether or not I should say something but after seeing the number of shit this blog has allowed to be posted is concerning and I am done being silent and waiting for someone else to call them out.

This blog, is actively spreading misinformation, posting fear mongering posts, and racist posts that have offended many POC systems.

TW: racism, fakeclaiming, ableist takes, elements of paranoia, fear mongering, transid shit

More under cut below

Let’s start off with the racism. This blog has posted an ask about someone talking about name discourse and how it’s “stupid”

Now if you don’t understand what this person is referring to, they are referring to systems using names from cultures that are not of their own (specifically white systems using names from cultures that are predominantly associated with POC)

It’s problematic because using names from cultures that are not your own without proper research or respect is racist. There are names that are closed and are sacred and should NOT be used by people outside of that culture unless it was granted to them by someone from that culture.

As you can see, there is proof that the ask has very much offended systems, especially POC systems. The blog has yet to formally respond to this situation.

Another thing, this blog has posted an ask of someone admitting to using transids for their alters. Here is the ask that this blog posted:

THIS. Is actively harming and spreading misinfo to the system community. The blog has allowed this anon to voice out that they actively use transids for their system, which if you don’t know, is stuff like transabled, transracial, transage, and has origins linked to transphobia, racism, and ableism. These labels were created under the excuse that it’s the same as being transgender (Urban Dictionary).

KEEP IN MIND, this blog has also stated IN THEIR PINNED, that they wont post takes that is “genuinely harmful” or with “endo rhetoric” but then posts asks like the transid one. Heres proof to that:

To what extent is an ask considered “harmful”. Because to us, that transid post seems very much harmful and VERY MUCH ‘ENDO RHETORIC’ (if you are confused, a good chunk of the system community often compare endos to ppl who use the transabled label as most endos claim that being a system is possible without trauma, aka, pretending to have a disorder that they dont have. Again, not all, some are just misinformed or they don’t remember their trauma well enough or are in denial). Just what exactly is considered harmful to this person running the blog? It makes no sense. You say you don’t post stuff that hurts systems yet you post misinformation and racist asks. This doesn’t end here either, theres more.

Heres another post that they have posted:

At first glance it doesn’t seem too bad, until you read the top part. “Cores”. Systems can’t have cores, because in early development, a child DOES NOT HAVE A WHOLE SENSE OF SELF. Repeated trauma prevents the child from ever achieving that whole sense of self, hence why it’s impossible for systems to have cores. The blog has however, acknowledged that the post was misleading, but this is the only time they even respond to any sort of backlash, and it wasn’t even a proper apology, just an admission with an excuse that they thought the rest of the take was fine.

Not to mention the post is STILL UP FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. They didn’t take it down, its still up for people to see.

Theres more that deliberately spread worse misinfo:

This is just incorrect on so many levels. Alter fusion IS NOT ALWAYS VOLUNTARY. And we have personally dealt with involuntary fusions before and it’s not fun. Yes they might not happen often but they still happen, and us and a bunch of other systems who we know can vouch for this. The anon claims that involuntary fusion might ‘scare young systems’ but you can’t ignore such an important part of a disorder and assume that itll scare them. You’re just reinforcing the idea that fusion is scary by SAYING IT MIGHT BE SCARY. It would be a whole lot less scary if you actually educated and comforted young systems on it rather than keeping silent. That’s how you break stigmas and fears. Not by keeping your mouth shut and spreading misinfo.

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Now. We all know about endos and how they can be a bit much sometimes. Sometimes they’re misinformed, sometimes they’re just blatantly ableist. But no matter who you are talking about, endo or not, YOU CANNOT JUST ARMCHAIR DIAGNOSE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET, WITH MaDD OF ALL THINGS.

Daydreaming is NEVER comparable to plurality, even if it’s faked, because daydreaming is a WHOLE different concept and issue that is sometimes debilitating on its own. We struggle with daydreams 24/7, and we REGULARLY have to deal with vivid daydreams that are often completely unrelated to our dissociation and our system. Again, more misinfo and straight up insulting to people who actually struggle with maladaptive daydreaming.

Now this bothers me. There are hundreds, if not, THOUSANDS of systems WHO CANNOT AFFORD AN OFFICIAL DIAGNOSIS. For some of us, IT WOULD PUT US IN DANGER. Comparing DID to delusions or psychosis is just not accurate whatsoever. They are in no way shape or form, similar enough to be compared. While yes, many do have similar symptoms but you have to remember, some diagnoses can lead you to be diagnosed with DID (PTSD is a prerequisite for DID, as DID is a trauma disorder, you would need to exhibit PTSD symptoms on top of the dissociative symptoms)

Also, self therapy is not always possible, ESPECIALLY for a disorder like DID. DID is a very debilitating disorder that cannot just be fixed or treated with alone, you NEED a professional to help you. You can attempt to manage your symptoms but you will always reach a dead end where you cannot handle it without support. And for self therapy to even happen you would have to, you guessed it, self diagnose. Not to mention, self diagnoses are as accurate, if not, more accurate than actual diagnoses given by doctors. There are still minorities (women, POC, LGBTQ, etc), who are misdiagnosed more often than those who are not in any minority. There are neurodivergent people who are dismissed or misdiagnosed with anxiety or bipolar rather than autism or adhd.

If someone was wrong about their self diagnosis, the worst that can happen is that they were wrong and now they have to figure out what else it could be. HOWEVER, if a DOCTOR is wrong about a person’s diagnosis, IT COULD COST THE PERSON THEIR LIFE.

Unfortunately this blog allowed a closed minded person to bash on self diagnosing without any empathy for the reasons why people do it in the first place. It hurts, especially when you have been medically neglected and are actively fighting to try and get the help you need. No sane person would self diagnose and call it a day without attempting to get actual help for it (if they even can, remember, on some places it’s dangerous for us to even have the official diagnosis).

TW BELOW: very triggering fakeclaiming of the entire system community, some elements of paranoia from what was said in this post

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NOW, I saved the worst one (in our opinion cuz it actually is triggering for us and some of our friends), because it hurts the entire system community:

Now I am not even gonna explain this one because I already reblogged this one with my response earlier. I will link that post here:

To add on, YOU CANT FUCKING FAKE YOUR SYMPTOMS UNCONSCIOUSLY OR SUBCONSCIOUSLY. Faking something in general is almost ALWAYS DONE INTENTIONALLY.

You cannot fake something without intention. It’s fucking impossible. And by saying you can, puts us and many other systems back into self doubt, denial, and distress from the mere idea of the possibility. You are inducing paranoia by saying otherwise.

Now, I will say, in the beginning days, this account was pretty good. It allowed people to voice out things that people were and are still afraid to talk about. But theres a HUGE difference between a hottake and a take that is filled with misinformation, or is racist, ableist, or triggering. So if you are the owner of this blog and you are reading this, I have something to say to you:

Please fucking listen to the people when they are upset. You have only ever responded on ONE occasion and have ignored the worser ones.

I suggest you either delete the posts that are clearly very harmful (including ones that aren’t included in this post, I know theres more) and release a FORMAL APOLOGY FOR ALL OF THEM and get other people to help you sort out your asks and filter out the bad ones PROPERLY,

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Shut down your blog if you can’t make the fucking time or put any effort into apologizing. You said it yourself that you wouldn’t post anything harmful yet on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS you have done the exact opposite. You went back on your word.

You can’t use the excuse of ‘oh i didnt know it was harmful’ because lets be real, one person can’t dictate whats right and wrong alone, you always need a group of people with a wide variety of views and opinions so that you are not making biased and harmful choices. What you perceive as okay, is not always okay to other people. If you ever want a chance to even REDEEM yourself then you need to change how you run the blog. And if you can’t then don’t continue to run it.

We will wait for your response. If you don’t reblog this post with a proper apology and accountability then we will just unfollow and block you. And so will a number of systems who follow or interact your blog.

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Yall the infernal system has started more shit... Theyre anti-ramcoa (dont believe its real) and site syscringe as a source. Like... Really. Theyre also rlly weird about a lot of shit.... They made a whole ass userboxes blog bc of course they did.

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I've come across a few pro-endo blogs on my suggested spreading misinformation so I wanted to make a clarification.

"We are not saying we have DID, we are saying that we have some form of plurality"

Plurality as a concept is derived from childhood trauma. The mere existence of plurality in DID and OSDD is the result of heavy trauma and dissociation interfering with the development of a personality in a child. It is not multiple personalities that causes plurality it is the LACK of a personality. So no, if you did not experience severe childhood trauma you cannot be plural, you cannot be a system. There is no ifs or buts you simply cannot. Plurality as a concept has NO place for you as an endogenic system.

And a side note, there is no such thing as fakeclaiming an endogenic system - when your entire existence is a facade.

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love it when endogenic "systems" say "theres a study that proves we're valid!!" and give absolutely no resources backing them up. love it when endogenic "systems" break dnis and ignore peoples boundaries on a daily basis because they feel entitled to be part of the disabled community theyre mocking and couldnt care less about. love it when endogenic "systems" complain about being "triggered" when they actively harass LEGITIMATELY TRAUMATIZED PEOPLE and constantly tell them their trauma isn't valid, isn't "right."

get the FUCK out of here with that horse shit. get out of our communities. get out of our spaces. get your sad little asses away from these traumatized CHILDREN youre grooming into denying their trauma and making their situation so much harder. endogenic "systems" get the FUCK OUT.

-- zack 🔪

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This person is so fucking weird. Sorry not sorry lol