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How I would take the relationship between Batman and the Joker

This is just something that I've had in my veins for a while now and needed to get it out there so I wouldn't go CRAZY.

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For a long time, I've been trying to figure out what would be an interesting direction for Batman and the Joker's relationship. One of the directions that I like the most is for Batman to finally kill the Joker.

Now, I know DC would never go for this because the Joker is one of their main cash cows. But I think what it could end up being is a spiritual successor to Knightfall. Where instead of Batman being broken physically and partially mentally, I think his killing the Joker would break him spiritually and shake him to his very core regarding why he became a hero in the first place.

There are countless ways that it could go down. But if I were to write the story, I think I would have the Joker trap Batman in some sort of labyrinth underground where he's completely cut off from the rest of the family. Joker would obviously put Batman through the wringer, torturing him and forcing him to go through deadly trials and tribulations. Overall, standard stuff when it comes to both of them. However, while Batman is trapped, the Joker plays him videos and footage of Gotham being destroyed, forcing Batman to watch as he destroys his city, kills his family, and ruins everything while he's still trapped.

It pushes Batman to his breaking point as he sees countless people being murdered, butchered, and torn apart. And it's all to the sound of Joker's constant mocking as he blames Batman for everything since he never decided to finish things and just kill him. At the same time, he's also throwing him through death trap after death trap before Batman finally gets to him.

From there, it's the standard beat down. However, this time, it's different. It isn't Batman fighting the Joker anymore; it's the man, Bruce Wayne, who's beating the clown prince of crime to death. And in a moment of pure and utter hate on Bruce's part, he finally does it. He kills the Joker. For me personally, I never see him doing it with a gun since he's so opposed to guns. But when he does it, Bruce finally manages to escape, only to find that Gotham is fine.

Turns out that all the footage he showed Batman was fake and that the Joker finally managed to get Batman to kill him without even having to kill anyone.

From there, word began to spread rather quickly that Batman killed the Joker, and it completely changed the dynamic between Batman and his villains. They're all now more cautious around him since it's been proven that if pushed far enough, Batman IS capable of killing. But for the most part, the entire world celebrates along with most of the hero community. However, for Batman himself, he hates it, he hates it all.

He hates that he's being celebrated for breaking his one rule. He hates that he's now one of the world's most beloved heroes for finally killing the Joker. He hates how no government or law enforcement official wants to bring him in. Most of all, he hates how good he feels afterward, like he can finally breathe easy and not have to worry about the clown prince of crime. And so, for a time, he hangs up his cowl and retires. He sees himself as tainted after taking a life, even if that life was the Joker's. But through his support system, people like Superman, Nightwing, and even Jason help Batman see that he can still be a hero even if he broke his one and only rule.

It takes time, of course. When he puts the cowl back on, he drifts between being too brutal and being too soft. He's scared that he'll end up killing again since he's done it once before, but at the same time, he doesn't want another Joker. But after a while, he finds his right footing and becomes a brighter hero. Not on the same level as someone like Superman or Nightwing, but for the first time in almost 30 years of crime fighting, he has hope that his mission will finally come to an end.

From here, he fights other villains, with perhaps someone like Bane stepping up to the mantle to become Batman's greatest foe now that Joker is out of the way. But for the most part, things return to some form of normalcy. Even then, the death of the Joker still weighs heavily on Batman's mind, but not as much as before.

But life goes on. Villains come and go. Gotham sees destruction come its way time and time again. However, one day, via some villain, whether it'd be in a Justice League book or a Batman title, Batman ends up in Hell. And who's there to greet him at those Hellish gates? Well, it's none other than the Joker.

Turns out that, after everything the Joker had done throughout his time as a villain, he's earned himself a special spot in the underworld as one of, if not THE most evil human being out there.

But for Batman, he now has to traverse Hell and find a way out while Joker tags along and tries to make his journey all the more painful as he taunts him about the fact that he finally managed to make him break his one rule. By the end of it all, Batman manages to escape Hell after managing to trick the Devil himself. In response, the Devil then revives the Joker as a demon whose sole purpose is to torment Batman.

However, unlike before, the Joker can't die since he'll just be resurrected, thanks to the Devil. This allows Batman to be more brutal than ever with the Joker; whether it'd be chopping him up into tiny pieces or burying him alive on the moon, there really isn't a limit to what Batman will do. But every once in a while, the Joker comes back, and Batman has to stop him once again. Although, thanks to the Joker now being part demon, he's able to pull more tricks that push Batman further than ever before.

Just off the top of my head, I see Joker maybe possessing people Batman cares about, creating new strains of Joker toxin that transform people into horrifying laughing monsters, and maybe even shapeshifting into new forms so that he can become an ally to Batman, only to stab him in the back.

To add onto this, Batman would ONLY get that brutal with the Joker since he can now take it.

I don't know if any of this makes sense or if it's any good. If anything, at the very least, I think it'd make a good Elseworld story, but beyond that, I'll leave it up to you.

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DELTARUNE CHAPTER 2 SPOILERS

GIF VERSION OF THE DANCE SCENE WITH THE SWEET CAP N' CAKES

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“We used to work the sound in this town.” “… until Queen came around.” “(K_K is short for cakes. )”

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“Okay - Seems Like The Green One Actually CAN Fight back. Just Lock Them All Up [together] And Force Them To Listen To Timmy Trumpet Without The Bass! That Seems Like A Valid [And Fittingly Silly] Punishment.” 

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How can anyone hate Junji Ito 

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Jason & Friends

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“Okay - Seems Like The Green One Actually CAN Fight back. Just Lock Them All Up [together] And Force Them To Listen To Timmy Trumpet Without The Bass! That Seems Like A Valid [And Fittingly Silly] Punishment.” 

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preferences

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I don't understand how people are into My Hero Academia while also completely failing to identify and understand Horikoshi's love and appreciation for Comics and American Culture as a whole.

My Hero Academia was born from Horikoshi's love of Western Comics and from American Culture, you can see a lot of that inspiration in characters like Sero, for instance, who Horikoshi said he deliberately based on Spiderman.

My Hero Academia is a Japanese series, obviously and undoubtedly, but it's also a love letter to American Comics. It's an appreciation that perfectly highlights the relationship between Japanese and American Media. Just like how people in America really like Japanese Media and Culture, a lot of people in Japan really like American Media and Culture.

Twitter being Twitter, people have already accused Horikoshi of "Celebrating American Imperialism" with the introduction of the Number 1 American Hero: Stars and Stripes, which is just as ridiculous as it sounds.

Stars and Stripes is All Might's student. One of All Might's character traits is that he really really likes America. He lived there for years before finally returning to Japan. Is it really that surprising that his student, born and raised in America, is going to take after him in his appreciation, but also in costume design?

That, and there have been a lot of American flag styled Heroes in Comics, namely Captain America. As mentioned above, Horikoshi likes taking inspiration from pre-existing Heroes, it's not a surprising design choice (especially since it's sort of a running gag in Anime that the American character is usually very stereotypically American.)

Having a character from America, designed after America, and/or proud of being American doesn't make that character inherently a bad person or a poorly written character, and it sure as hell doesn't mean the character or the author of said character supports any of the awful shit America has done in its past (or is currently doing, for that matter.)

We've hardly even met Stars and Stripes, I think it's unfair to assume her character just because of her name and costume design or her appreciation for her country. Liking America or American things doesn't automatically make someone a Villain.

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hc that kris can only emote with their eyes (which the player can’t see)

also, it’s real fucked up how we show Kris at the end of snowgrave that no matter how much we let them call out and scream, we’re the ones holding power to ACT not them

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reblog and make a wish! this was removed from tumbrl due to “violating one or more of Tumblr’s Community Guidelines”, but since my wish came true the first time, I’m putting it back. :)