#zionists will be blocked if you are trying to justify the genocide of Palestinians

[midnightostara]

Gal Gadot is holding a screening of Israelie propaganda at the museum of tolerance.

I'm not surprise that genocide barbie is doing that.

But please listen this is very important: please don't go to protest at the museum of tolerance to protest her 47 minute propaganda film.

I know this sounds like I'm telling people what to do but this is veryimportant that we need to listen:

What she's doing is a trap.

A Zionist trap by the IDF & Israeli military to get all Arabs, Muslims, Black, non-jewish, and brown folks protesting to say what they're doing is "Antisemitic" to derail the work everyone has been doing. So that they can film protesters and claim it's a "pro-hamas" rally to manipulate people.

JVP and other Jewish organizations are planning to demonstrate outside of the museum of tolerance.

The people that should demonstrate this should be Jewish allies to the Palestinian movement, their voices are extremely important in this situation.

If you are non-white or not Jewish, please sit this one out and do not attend. Let Jewish allies go.

[notaplaceofhonour]

it’s october 7th. you hear about the attack by seeing people you followed glorifying the terrorist attack—a massacre, a pogrom—as victory & justified resistance, glorifying a terrorist group that was founded with the explicit intent to kill your entire people

you make a post in which you make it clear you support palestinians and oppose the ways israel has wronged them, explaining that the terrorist group is still not good. you know you will probably get some flacc from the pro-Hamas side, but naively underestimate how much.

you get thousands of notifications on that one post, the majority of them hateful comments.

some of the response is positive. multiple messages thank you for the post, expressing bafflement that it’s controversial.

a few Israelis are upset at the loaded language in your post, but explain their problems with it civilly. you called Israel “apartheid”. they ask you what apartheid laws Israel has. you admit you honestly don’t know.

your inbox is flooded with anonymous hate from anti-Israel leftists.

over the course of a few weeks you have received hundreds of death threats, a dozen rape threats. people accuse you of being pro-genocide. you’re a literal Nazi. you’re racist, you thirst for the blood of Palestinians. you’re brainwashed by propaganda, a shill for The Zionist Entity. a few of the hate messages are from literal Neo-Nazis; the overwhelming majority are from leftists, many of them queer.

you are considering suicide.

you see footage of the october 7th attacks. you see footage of the bombings in gaza. you see footage of a Jewish man being murdered at an anti-Israel rally.

a popular creator you follow posts in support of an antisemitic hate group that masquerades as a Jewish organization. this organization regularly posts blood libel and other antisemitic rhetoric, works with groups that are even more explicitly antisemitic, including celebrating October 7th, holocaust inversion, blood libel, “Khazar theory” and others. more than one of the orgs they work with is pro-Putin.

your former roommate liked the post.

graffiti appears on a street you frequent that says “#freepalestine” and “end settler colonialism”

the boyfriend of the friend you spent most of the summer with makes his first post about the war. it’s a reposted comic that mocks and downplays the october 7th attack.

you doubt he’ll be receptive to criticism. he’s shared leftist memes about “monied elites” pulling all the strings and evangelicals being modern day “pharisees” in the past, and getting him to understand why that was antisemitic was like herding cats. you try anyway.

another of his Jewish friends also pushes back. he smugly dismisses her, tells her she’s falling for Zionist propaganda and uses several antisemitic tropes. you go off on him. he just deletes your comment.

you give up. you’re done. you block him.

you see anti-Israel posters and billboards around town

you mention what happened with the guy you went off on to his girlfriend—the friend you’ve grown very close to, who you’ve been listening to as she unburdens her fears for the future and complains about her bf’s BS over the last year. she doesn’t respond to you.

a friend of a friend shares posts tokenizing fringe groups that spread blood libel and have collaborated with holocaust deniers. you know they don’t know what you know, so you explain what those groups are. they seem somewhat receptive, apologize, and take it down

the next day they share several more posts that dip into antisemitic tropes. you mention this to your mutual friend, that you’re worried about them being radicalized. you’re not sure how receptive they’ll be to continued criticism

you have a confrontation with the foaf. in the meantime they’ve shared even more antisemitic posts. they say they didn’t mean to cause you distress but instead of stopping they effectively block you.

the “end settler colonialism” vandalism has been counter-vandalized with the words “commie propaganda” in place of “settler colonialism”. you don’t know if this is an improvement.

a month passes. the friend whose bf you went off on still hasn’t spoken to you. you see she shared a post defending an SJP chapter that posted Nazi cartoon caricatures of Jews repurposed in “Anti-Zionist” memes. you unfriend her on all social media platforms but you can’t bring yourself to block her number.

you see a friend of someone whose couch you surfed when you were homeless harassing Jewish celebrities with “Free Palestine” comments. you block them.

you’ve lost count of how many people you’ve unfollowed or blocked, or who’ve blocked you. friends, content creators.

when a friend takes an unusually long time to respond you worry if it’s because of your posts about antisemitism.

most of the podcasts, youtube channels, and other content creators you regularly engaged with no longer feel safe. you wonder who will be next

a couple friends wish you a happy hanukkah. you don’t celebrate much aside from lighting the hanukkiah and making some latkes.

you see posts about a destroyed chabad menorah, antisemitic comments on Jewish celebrities’ Hanukkah posts.

your neighborhood is covered in pro-Palestine & anti-Israel posters. some are seemingly innocuous, some are JVP “not in our name” posters. some call for intifada. “globalize the intifada” “Zionists fuck off!” “solidarity means attack!”

a man kills himself shouting “free palestine”. you learn about his suicide by seeing posts from several popular accounts you followed glorifying it.

you follow a bunch of jewish accounts on social media and commiserate with them about everything happening

your jewish friends post screenshots of the dead man’s antisemitic, pro-Hamas views. you look at his reddit and find even more horrific shit: anti-Ukraine posts. mocking Zelensky. “elites” are “lizard people”; the only named individual he calls a lizard person is Jewish. you start to notice a pattern: a lot of the people he dislikes just so happen to be jews.

several people you know share a post glorifying this man’s suicide. most are acquaintances, one is someone incredibly important to you.

you wonder how they would respond to your suicide.

you tell the close friend that shared this post how it scares you. you show them the receipts of the man’s antisemitism. their response is a single sentence. they didn’t know about the antisemitism.

they don’t apologize.

you notice none of your irl friends, even your closest ones, interact with your posts about antisemitism. you are able to vent to a couple friends, but no one has reach out to you

you try not to read into it. you try not to take it personally.

you haven’t slept well in months. you’ve always been an insomniac but not like this. you’re not sleeping until 4am, 6am, even 9am. even when you get to bed at a decent hour and get a full night’s rest it takes you hours to get out of bed.

a few weeks go by. the friend with the single sentence response shares a post saying they’re excited and proud to join a group to help palestinians. you’re excited and proud for them.

a couple days later, they share a post about a fundraiser to help a palestinian family get out of gaza. you note to yourself this is a much more effective & less concerning form of activism than the pro-suicidal antisemite post.

your friend shares another post about the fundraiser. it’s a joint post between their group and another group.

you open the other group’s page

the page is just a wall of signs from rallies. you swipe through one after another: “from the river to the sea”, “by any means necessary”, justifying/denying the atrocities of october 7th, calling for violent revolution. anything done in the name of resistance can’t be terrorism, all Israelis are terrorists. Jews aren’t indigenous; they’re white colonizers. holocaust inversion. other vile, thinly veiled violent rhetoric

you feel sick to your stomach imagining talking to your friend about it.

you already feel like you’re burdening the few friends you can talk to about this. you already feel like you think about it too much, talk about it too much. but you can’t not think about it; it affects every aspect of your life.

you’ve filtered out relevant keywords on more than one social media site to avoid the worst of it. some still manages to leak through.

there isn’t a single friend you regularly interact with that you don’t fear the moment when they will switch from listening to your concerns to seeing you as the evil zionist or indoctrinated hasbaranik they’ve been warned about.

it’s not an irrational fear. it keeps happening. you knew it would then, and you were powerless to do anything about it before, and you continue to be as it happens again and again.

you don’t know what to do about any of it.

[official-crab-posts]

hey everyone, i know this is a silly gimmick blog but i feel i need to clarify that zionists aren't welcome here. people who think the violence in gaza right now is in any way justified or proportional to october 7 and support the genocide being committed against palestinians need to get off my blog. leave.

people who use this situation as an excuse to be antisemitic also need to get the fuck out of here. it is never okay to be antisemitic and trying to use your support for palestine as a shield is pathetic. i dont want you around and i do not like you. when i find you i will block you. save us both some time and just unfollow me right now.

i just wanted to make my position clear. free palestine. 🇵🇸

[apollos-olives]

i see many people trying to bring up hamas as some kind of scapegoat and distract from the issue when palestine and palestinians' issues are mentioned so if it's okay i would just like to ask how you deal with people saying "but hamas is bad!!!!" or "but don't you condemn hamas and their october 7 atrocitics????" so I can know how to deal with it if I come across a zionist, thank you

i usually block them or ignore them. debating with fascists is useless. but if you really want to know what i do, i personally look into un resolutions that actually support the existence of hamas. un resolution 37/43 in particular, along with understanding the history of resolutions 181 and 242. it is completely justifiable, especially under UN law, to have the right to self determination and taking up arms to fight against an occupying force. also, when they say hamas is a terrorist group, ask them "to who?". because majority of the world does not consider them that way. only the western countries such as the US and canada consider hamas a "terrorist group", and those countries are the ones commiting genocide against palestinians right now. ask the rest of the world about hamas and none of them will say they are terrorists, simply a resistance group. and if the zionist insists that israel is not an occupying force so hamas shouldn't exist, simply bring up examples of some of the fathers of zionism, who very clearly said that zionism is a colonial occupational government.

in the end u just gotta do your research 🤷‍♂️ most zionists who like to argue are ones who are expecting you not to know the history, so they can lie and twist what really happened. if you learn about the history and what happened and why, you'll have a good grasp of how to deal with zionists and their lies.

[akajustmerry]

I'm not denying that anti-Jewish hate isn't a problem. It is. I also have huge admiration and respect for Jewish-led pro-Palestine and anti-colonial organisations like JVP. Jewish people have ALWAYS been on the front lines of anti-Zionist protest and I'll block anyone who tries to say otherwise. However, there's been some discourse™ here in Australia on whether asking a Jewish person about their stance on Palestine is an aggressive act and I would like to add my 2 cents as a Lebanese person who grew up in a very pro-Zionist country who's been attending Jewish-led Pro-Palestine protests since I was a teenager. I feel like people who get mad at Palestinians and SWANA people who are wary of anyone (including Jewish people) who do not denounce zionism and Israel need to redirect their anger at the Israeli terrorist state. Zionists and their allies are the ones who co-opted Judaism to justify ethno-supremacy and colonial violence for nearly 100 years. Not only that, but so many of the world's most influential governments (US, UK) support this co-opting of the Jewish faith and attempt to influence their general populations to do the same. sorry, but I'm over people of Christian and Jewish faiths complaining that being questioned on where they stand with Palestine is at all equivalent to how SWANA people are expected to justify our status as humans from birth. Palestinians, Muslims and other Brown people, regardless of whether we reside in the West or not, are born into a world where Zionists and colonisers co-opt Christianity and Judaism to colonise and slaughter us. I am truly sorry that people's sacred beliefs are being weaponised this way, but that's not mine or any other Arab's fault simply because we need to know for our own survival if you agree with it. Ultimately, the call is coming from inside the house. The biggest perpetrators of anti-Jewish hate are the Zionist institutions and governments like Israel, the UK, the US, Canada, Germany, and Australia. Because they're the ones co-opting Judaism to uphold a genocidal colonial project. Take your anger at being associated against your will with them up with THEM, not Palestinians, Muslims, and SWANA people who are simply trying to stay safe.

[rosetowers]

"Hamas are using their own kids as human shields! Hamas are using hostages as human shields! Hamas are using aid workers as human shields!"

STOP TRYING TO USE THIS ARGUMENT

IF IT WAS TRUE THEN WHY THE FUCK HAS IT LITERALLY. NEVER. WORKED.

I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF SEEING THIS ON ANY POST ABOUT THE GENOCIDE. ZIONISTS ARE LITERALLY SO FUCKING STUPID. AND EVIL.

ISRAEL HAS NEVER HESITATED TO SHOOT AND BOMB PALESTINIAN CHILDREN.

EVEN IF HAMAS WAS ANYWHERE NEAR AS EVIL AS ZIONISTS MAKE THEM OUT TO BE, EVEN IF THEY ENJOYED WATCHING THEIR OWN CHILDREN DIE HORRIBLY, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY WANT TO DECIMATE THEIR OWN POPULATION.

NO MATTER HOW YOU JUSTIFY IT WE ALL KNOW YOU THINK EVERY PALESTINIAN IS JUST A TERRORIST, YOU THINK IT'S FUCKING GENETIC.

TO ANY ZIONISTS I HAVEN'T ALREADY BLOCKED: COME AT ME MOTHERFUCKERS! GIVE ME A FREE BLOCKLIST. JUST STOP TRYING TO USE THIS ARGUMENT IT'S FUCKING RIDICULOUS!

[infraredss]

Forever irritating how zionists will go onto the posts of queer people who are in support of Palestinian freedom and say "try being gay there, see how that goes!" or something to that effect.

First of all, there's queer people in Palestine. They don't deserve to die. There's also CHILDREN there. Naturally they're innocent in this.

And frankly? I don't think homophobia is a valid reason to kill someone. I don't care if it's not legal for me to be queer in a country. I don't care if I'd Die because of it. I just do not think somebody being homophobic is a reason they should die.

And you don't either, otherwise you'd say "kill homophobes" and not endose bombing 1.3 million Gazan people indiscriminately.

You do not care about the homophobia aspect of this beyond trying to Use it to your advantage in a disgusting manner.

You're not discussing homophobia in Palestine to be helpful or out of the kindness of your heart. You're doing it because you think it'll make me believe killing people is somehow justified.

It's not. It never will be. You try to dehumanise others to absolve yourself of being guilty in this and try to justify your hatred but your reasons for slaughter are flimsy and frequently racist.

Because you have no Genuine reason to hate them. You're literally just doing it because you're a bigot.

The hatred you have been taught has turned to violence and dehumanisation. There are people who would try and do the very same things to you and believe it's justified for very, very similar reasons.

And no, I don't think you should die either. I don't think anybody should be killed for something they believe. But I fully endorse you being fucking shunned by others and I hope you experience endless guilt for trying to flimsily justify the killing of innocent human beings. You are complicit in the slaughtering of thousands. Fuck you, genuinely.

And fuck your flimsy appeal to my emotions. You do NOT get to use the oppression I face like that.

Free Palestine.

Zionist comments will be removed and you will be blocked. I'm not entertaining an argument with you. You will never be able to convince me this is justified.

Antisemitic comments will also be removed. The actions of the Israeli government are not the actions of the Jewish community as a whole or even every person residing in Israel.

Blame the individuals, the IDF and the governments endorsing the genocide, including those who remain silent about it.

[sarroora]

Note: I will block anyone who takes my posts and news links and attempts to twist the narrative into making anti-Zionism = anti-Semitism. I’ll also block anyone reblogging my posts and trying to justify below them that Israel isn’t a settler colonial state, this isn’t a genocide, or ‘Palestinians aren’t really real’, etc etc.

You’re making it much easier for me to find pro-Zionist blogs and block you. Thanks, keep going😁.

[horizon-verizon]

Hamas is a far right terrorist organization that kills Israelis AND Palestinians you fucking bloodthirsty ghoul

Pfft.

I think that the "fucking bloodthirsty ghoul[s]" are those who either rape/SA Palestinian child prisoners, endorse genocide, try to use a smaller group of Islamists (not "Islamic", Islamist, look the words up) and their actions to justify bombing an entire group of civilians and said children when since 1948 the Israelis, Americans, and British were all the ones responsible for the mass murder and economic exploitation of Palestinian people. Hamas kills for the goal of Palestinian liberation, which could only be acheived through violence of some sort bc of how big a military-facist entity Israel is. Israel kills to dominate, exterminate, humiliate, and colonize.

Especially when Hamas' kill count and ABILITY to kill as many people at once or in succession simply has never and can never compare to the Israelis' kill count. Which, btw, will/does include Black people and PoCs in America through the GILEE project.

Also, the "left" groups of Israel are not the same kind of liberals/moderates/leftists of the U.S., they are all still Zionist and fascist to some degree.

Oh, and those videos of Israelis mocking Palestinian deaths like blackface performances in the U.S., or those of Israelis watching the Gaza bombings? Yeah, the Israelis are the victims here.

Sorry-not-sorry for not just being on the genocidal, racist maniacs' side. Block me as compensation and self-care.

[angie-da-spoof]

Please don't be me I am dumb for trying to argue with dumb people with baseless evidence and bigoted views

Me: Disagrees that Israel is not bad and corrects how they are in fact committing a genocide.

Zionist: No Palestine is evil you are a bigot, they are terrorists because they used violence against Israel.

Me: Explains how I am not a bigot bcuz Israel does not equal Jewish people and vice versa, and why Israel is the evil one for murdering over 40,000 people and how in war violence breeds violence, so therefore it's not unexpected that there will be violent retaliation, also Hamas is not all Palestinians. And if violence is bad then what Israel is doing is SUPER DUPER evil.

Zionist: Bigot, you are stupid go read some history!

Me: Shows history of Israel being evil to Palestine and try to hint how they were trying to take the land in a violent manner years ago, shows a graph of the land being taken by Israel and how they literally posed with canes from disabled Palestinians and other atrocious things.

Zionist: Not true!

Me: Are you blind?

Conclusion: it is tempting to argue with people who have no knowledge on a subject and simply base their arguments in fabricated facts because they are not able to come to their senses, but no matter how much evidence you present and arguments you make they will not change their mind because they live in a web of lies....just block them and report them for hate speech it's probably far more effective that way. It also didn't help I suck with words and writing essays but I can't stand to see someone try and justify genocide.

[cosmicanger]

“The bodies of Palestinian babies, children and women are piling up in front of the Al Shifa Hospital. Victims of Occupation airstrikes!”

“fuck off with the nonviolence bullshit already. you are quite comfortable with violence. it's just the more asymmetrical the violence the better for you. "the peace of the powerful is the silent war waged against the dispossessed."”

“What we are seeing in Palestine is the crime of the global establishment against the Palestinian people. May all of them rot in eternal hell for all time.”

“we're watching a nuclear, colonial power pulverise 2 million dispossessed ppl (half of them children), trapped in a strip of land less than a quarter the size of London, while the world's "democracies" fall over themselves to offer Israel more weapons. it makes me physically sick”

“A Palestinian friend sent me this message: At this point we don’t CARE or need the world to support us and we are NOT asking for permission to live. The world had decades to help us. It has refused to do so. These are our lives and we get to decide what needs to happen and how.”

“You win freedom from a nuclear armed racist entity supported by the biggest military power in human history by hitting them where it hurts most, not by writing essays or protesting in the street. That is the bottom line. If your feeble mind is unable to grasp this, it's on you.”

“No one outside Palestine is in any position to lecture them about their tactics. Period. They're occupied. They have no military. They have no meaningful support from anyone. Conventional resistance is not available to them. STFU and let them resist however they see fit. "There's no excuse for -" Yes, the fuck, there is. Self-defense justifies all kinds of shit we should normally condemn, especially when the person defending themselves has few options. Zionists who want to argue are just going to get blocked (and I'll refute you first, so you won't even get the last word).”

““they’re killing innocent civilians” it’s funny how u ppl care bout innocents bein hurt now of all times lmao”

“Of course it is a worry that the more powerful, genocidal side will commit even worse horrors now on the Indigenous population. But it is also reasonable to assume the resistance knows this too, and knows their occupier's reactions better than people outside do. All too easy to say, "the resistance has committed a blunder". Harder to try to think through what would go into making such a decision, taking such a course, and find all the facts that led to this point.”

“Americans have this wild thing where they legit cannot understand why someone would die fighting for a revolutionary cause even when their entire family is put in a prison camp.”

[confluence-and-drift]

I know this is hardly an original observation, but upon checking out some zionist blogs just to see what kind of talking points are going around, it's nothing but *whataboutism to justify genocide*, *killing people is bad so the palestinians should stop and we blameless jews will consider doing likewise*, *some of the most sickeningly virulent racism concievable*, *as above regarding dead children this time*, *bad faith argument x, *bad faith argument y*, *something that shows the op is either a bloodthirsty monster or a fucking idiot *, *their pathetic little victim complex being used to justify crimes against humanity, AGAIN*, *calling anyone who thinks genocide is bad a nazi, see even Germany agree*, *israel isn't bad YOU'RE antisemitic n+1* ad nauseum.... It's such delusional bullshit that it goes past being sickening and gets into the surreal. And these are just the english stuff or that where the hebrew text could be highlighted and copy-pasted into google translate. Imagine the sheer scale of the violent bloodthirst that they're NOT openly expressing, ie. how violent bloodthirst is typically expressed. I know, objectively speaking, what we're observing is the effect of a 'nation-state' founded on lies, genocide and propaganda to justify it afterwards, and that survives due to lies, genocide and propaganda to justify it afterwards, but seeing the sheer brutality playing out whilst they bleat and whine about being the perpetual victims whilst gleefully celebrating the mass slaughter of innocent civilians who they've subjected to a long, slow apartied and ethnic cleansing over 70 years...

It's...pretty fucked up, ngl. I mean, it's not like a country being full of delusional morons is hardly new, I live in the UK, but the zionist entity really is a different beast, where the more you learn the more horrifying it gets and to add the fucked up cherry on the fucked up cake, you get the zionists bleating about they're so good and perfect and if any of our leaders dare say otherwise, well then a quick word with the zionist lobby later and they'll have changed their mind somehow... The shameless weaponising of antisemitism, the even more shameless usage of deliberate paralells to antisemitic acts in order to have a pre-loaded riposte to anyone who points out that making a game out of sniping pregnant women and children in the head (and manufacturing and distributing t-shirts boasting of their kill count...like consider how fucked a society has to be before that is even possible...) is kind of fucked up. It's like getting a glimpse into a sick, parody universe full of some of the most heinous bullshit imaginable and then some, insulting to the memory of those who survived the holocaut, you know, the genocide that they use as a convieniently universal and all-encompassing cassus beli ...... and we're just supposed to pretend this murderous little ethnostate is a normal country otherwise we're the bad ones? Otherwise we're the ones desecrating the memories of those who paid the ultimate price fighting facism?

No. Fuck that, that's utterly perverse and I refuse to play along with the sick pantomime that western geo-political interests demand that we do.

*sigh* Basically, I'm feeling sickened and despondent and am going to go relax after the recent additions to the zionist blocklist (I said I'd read what they think and try to understand them, not that I'd subject myself regularly to the putrid drivel that they mindlessly regurgitate - remember, block and don't engage, these people need genuine experts to deprogram the racist hatred that they're taught virtually from birth. (no seriously, reading the translations of some of the stuff they're taught in nursery/kindergarten is fucking chilling). Now for the obligatory disclaimer; I'm not a bigot nor whatever else the usual cadre of braindead scum would accuse me of. In fact, some of the people I respect the most are those citizens of the zionist entity that refuse to participate (5-15% of the populace, depending on sources, though most are towards the lower end of that) and seek to document and inform the world of the crimes of the land where, by accident of birth, they're forced to live. My heart genuinely goes out to those young kids whose choices are conscription (a fucked up and unethical concept even in a normal country...and they're not in a normal country) and carrying out genocide and ethnic cleansing or jail time. And the fact that there are young folk, teenagers, who look at this, the MASSIVE societal pressure, the ostracism, the violence they themselves are subjected to and choose the jail time, understanding that said jail time is a paid holiday compared to what your average Palestinian is subjected to by the occupation. They're folk who had the integrity to realise "Never Again" means "Never Again for ANYONE", and that makes them bigger heroes than any uniformed murderer posting snuff videos and 'trophies' to tiktok. Going to end this here, as having a rant about everything foul and perverse about the zionist entity and it's genocidal actions is an entire academic discipline's worth of writing and far more eloquent folk than I have made that point/written those books, and it's better you go read some of those. One day, in our lifetimes, Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea.

[apostate-in-an-alcove]

Have you noticed how all the people who have been call atheists like us, “culturally Christian” and accusing us of genocide for daring to criticize religions other than Christianity are call hardcore Zionists defending the Palestinian genocide??

There's a lot of zionists on Tumblr; I first noticed them when all this "cultural christian" discourse was flying around and now they came crawling back out to justify the genocide of Palestinians and scream "antisemitism" at the slightest bit of criticism towards their aparteid state of Israel. I block them on sight at this point because trying to speak or reason with them is like talking to a brick wall.

[crazyintheeast]

No, but you blocked all other ways to communicate so I have to resort to trying to get through this way. If you weren’t so quick to be antisemitic and hateful this would be less cumbersome to communicate with you. I’d be more than willing to show you examples of protests in Israel by Israeli citizens advocating for an end to the war. I’d love to send you links to Jewish Israeli foundations trying to send donations and aid to the Palestinian people. It would be nice if I could help debunk some of the preconceptions you have with articles and independent studies made by non-Israeli sources so that we could actually come to an agreement on things because I believe you and I have the same goal in mind. We both want the Palestinian people to be free and with equal rights… should we not at least try to come to that agreement?

For someone who advocates questioning sources online and doing your own research to see through misinformation bots, you are strangely stubborn and hypocritical in the way in which you engage with the Jewish population. I hoped that you would be open to discussion and constructive criticism. Especially if it gives you a greater understanding of how the things you’re saying are severely damaging to people who are not even involved in this conflict.

Like I said, I’m willing to talk. Calmly. Rationally. Patiently. And if we can’t come to an agreement by the end then I’ll leave you alone. But I would be remiss if I didn’t try to reach out in good faith. Are you willing to re-open messages so we can talk peacefully?

lmao you literally went on about how Israel is not committing genocide and war crimes and how this is all anti semitic propaganda . Anyone who can deny the genocide happening right in front of our eyes and tries to justify it is a monster

Also I told you TWICE to get out of my post and stop parroting Zionist propaganda that tries to justify genocide and remember what you told me ? Yup you told me I have to block you if I want you to stop and guess what happened . I blocked you . And now you are actually whining about me blocking you because you wouldn’t stop spamming my post and you are playing the victim ? You are truly pathetic

Would you talk calmly and rationally to a Nazi who tells you how there was no holocaust and it’s all anti German propaganda?

Also stop trying to use Jewish people as a shield . Zionist don’t represent Jewish people anymore then Nazis represent German people and we have countless Jewish people standing up against zionist atrocities

[hufflpuffin]

Criticizing a foreign country for committing horrific war crimes is not antisemitism. Nor is criticizing zionism #antisemitism, i see your tags dipshit.

Playing atrocity porn in front of people protesting an ongoing genocide is revolting behavior. Everyone knows and agrees 10/7 was bad and an atrocity, thats why it's speaking to thin air. Pro-Palestine people understand that it didn't happen in a vacuum. Blasting 10/7 footage in front of an anti-war protest is propaganda because it's being used to justify war crimes and unconditional aid to a country that is currently on trial in the international court of justice for genocide.

I don't think you'd like it very much if UCLA students set up a giant tv to play all the footage of IOF soldiers running over palestinians with their hands ziptied behind their backs using tanks while Israelis celebrated it in telegram channels. How about playing videos of dismembered Palestinian children hanging from walls after Israeli airstrikes. How about children being sniped in the head by the IDF? How about the countless videos of the IOF stealing bras and underwear from women's dressers and pillaging jewelry and other things to bring home to their families. How about playing the recording of 6 year old Hind Rajab's call before she was deliberately murdered by the IOF? How about playing videos of the zionist terrorists destroying humanitarian aid at the border? How about the Palestinian civilians who were released from Israeli detention talking about being tortured and sexually abused? How about Israelis mocking dead and dying palestinians? I mean, if playing true events will “agitate” counter protesters, I don’t know how to tell you this, but that’s a group in serious denial.

Do you actually want to know why they're called agitators? Most of them aren't even students. They're called agitators because they:

Were caught shouting "kill the jews" to make it look like the student protestors said it. Heres a whole article on it!

Were caught attempting to infiltrate the protests by dressing up like pro-palestine students.

Illegally brought mace to school grounds and disingenuously filmed videos trying to portray themselves being prevented from going to go to class after students blocked him from entering the encampment. Edited the video to exclude people showing and telling him to go around the encampment. Exposed for being an actor and working with cops.

Literally cry about being ignored by peaceful protestors.

Call a black student protestor the N-word and then spit on him

Screamed "I hope they rape you" at students.

Make monkey noises at black students.

Are literally IOF trained soldiers serving in foreign militaries wearing keffiyahs to infiltrate the encampment.

Screamed “You stand no chance, old lady!” while violently attacking a woman.

Waved extremist Chabad Messianism flags while throwing glass bottles at and bear-macing students

Dragged and violently gang-beat students on the ground

Oh look at them attacking more students in front of that stage they set up with that $70,000 they raised!

Agitators beating a student with wooden boards to the point the student had to have 12 staples to the back of their head.

How about Zionists bringing bunches of a banned food item to throw at students knowing the food item was banned because one student was deathly allergic to it?

Screamed misogynistic things at women

Yelled at someone to "go back to asia"

Called women whores

More zionist agitators starting fights

Zionist agitators threw a backpack full of live lab mice at student protestors.

Zionist agitators yelling “animal” “go listen to your master” and “fuck BLM” at Black pro-Palestinian protesters while waving Israeli flags in their faces.

Zionist agitators waving JDL terrorist flags

Zionist agitators trespassing and destroying flags

Attacked Walter Masterson

Attacked a woman and pulled her hair

Violently beating, choking, and stomping on students.

Had neo-nazis on their side

24 minutes of violent zionist agitator violence.

Throwing unknown chemicals at students

Throwing chemical bombs at students that hospitalized nearly a dozen people

Zionist agitators throwing fireworks into the encampment.

Zioinst agitators violently gang-beating a student sticks. More footage of them laughing after and macing students.

More agitator violence.

Launching more fireworks at students.

Screamed "second nakba" while attacking students. That sounds pretty genocidal to me.

A large group of Pro Israeli agitators surround a Pro Palestinian student hitting him with sticks while yelling “there’s no place for you in this world” eventually taking him to the ground and beating him.

Tearing down barricades that are protecting students from violence.

More terrorist JDL agitators.

Zionist agitators ripping down posters of palestinian children murdered by israel. Again, If playing true events will “agitate” counter protesters, I don’t know how to tell you this, but that’s a group in serious denial.

Zionist drove into students, got out, and then started punching them.

Punch a woman in the face

Try to steal a keffiyeh off a Jewish man

Scream about how they'll kill palestinian children

More misogyny by zionist agitators.

Another one yelling the "n-word" at students while attacking them

And another "N-word" incident.

Spraying pro-palestine student directly in the eyes with mace while he was peacefully talking

Calling a woman a terrorist for wearing a keffiyeh

Stealing flags

“Kill the babies! Kill the babies so they don’t grow up to be terrorists!”

played israeli songs in the middle of the night outside the encampment that were famously used to torture captured palestinians in west bank and gaza

more violence

More destroying property

Stalking women and sexually demeaning them

These are the guys you're defending. These are the guys you're calling "not agitators". Go ahead. Defend all of that.

(comic by Eli Valley, a Jewish cartoonist for The Jewish Currents)

30,000+ Palestinians are dead, most of them are women and children, and thats the extremely low conservative estimate, and you're still crying about people saying "from the river to the sea"? Israel has slaughtered more children in 6 months then children were massacred in the entire Bosnian Genocide.

And that slogan is not claimed by only one group, it was invented by Zionists. You know that right? In fact the Israeli version is actually the genocidal one. “Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty,” and "The Jordan has two banks; this one is ours, and the other one too." That actually calls for the death of everyone who is not Jewish/Israeli. Unlike "Palestine will be free" which means "free from oppression and occupation" because Palestinians have been systemically having their land illegally stolen/annexed and given to settlers. Palestinians live under brutal occupation, blockades, and apartheid.

If you interpret that as violence then its on you, and that just means you can't imagine a free Palestine or a 2 state or 1 state solution. You can't imagine a Palestine free from Israeli violence or occupation or apartheid. Thats a self-report.

Oppressed Palestinians using a slogan that was made to oppress them and turning it into a slogan about emancipation and freedom from oppression is not antisemitic.

"Thus, on one side, we have students and a politician representing the demands of tens of millions of citizens who call for freedom for the Palestinians. On the other, we have the power of the American state supporting the core policies of Israel’s government that over the past few decades has acted ceaselessly to ensure that “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.” Rather than focusing on real war crimes designed to uphold Israel’s exclusive sovereignty over the entirety of historic Palestine from the river to the sea, the priorities of Congress and the paragons of the Ivy League lie elsewhere, as is evidenced by their disgraceful, laser-like focus on completely spurious thought crimes." -It’s Time to Confront Israel’s Version of “From the River to the Sea"

The reality is that Palestinians have no power and you care more about tone policing slogans from people who are losing their entire families in Gaza then the current ongoing genocide being committed by Israel right now that Israel is on trial for in international court. Palestine has no air defense or sea defense or army or nuclear weapons like Israel. They have fucking reclaimed slogans. But the most powerful and influential Israelis in the world can say as much genocidal, violent shit about annihilating Palestinians and they're given billions of dollars. Here's 18 whole pages of citations of the most powerful and influential people in Israel being openly genocidal. It starts on page 59.

And I know you're gonna come at me with the "Israel is not an apartheid state" nonsense so read this and fuck off.

Israel is an apartheid state according to:

The United Nations

South Africa

Namibia

The former head of Israel’s Mossad from 2011-2016

Amnesty International

Human Rights Watch

Over 450+ Palestinian NGOs, organizations, and civil society and trade unions, independent Palestinian international and regional human rights organizations

Over 20+ Israeli human rights groups and NGOs: the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, Adalah, B’Tselem, Bimkom - Planners for Planning Rights, Breaking the Silence, HaMoked: Center for the Defence of the Individual, Haqel, Human Rights Defenders Fund, Combatants for Peace, Emek Shaveh, Gisha - Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, Gun Free Kitchen Tables, Human Rights Defenders Fund, Ir Amim, Looking the Occupation in the Eye Social TV, Mashsom Watch, Mehazkim, Ofek, Parents Against Child Detention, Peace Now, Physicians for Human Rights Israel, Rabbis for Human Rights, Social TV, The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel, Torah of Justice, Woman to Woman, Yesh Din, Zazim - Community Action, Zulat

-65% of Middle East Scholars

-The leading professor of the Holocaust at Hebrew University in Jerusalem

-Israel's Law Professors Forum representing 120+ Israeli law professors

-The former president of Colombia

-Daniel Levy, former Israeli negotiator 

-Former secretary-general of the United Nations

-Two former Israeli ambassadors to South Africa

-Jon Allen, former Canadian Ambassador to Israel (2006-2010) 

-The Presbyterian Church in the United States, United Church of Christ, The Vatican & Pope John Paul II, the Church of Sweden, the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), the Anglican Church of Canada and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada 

-UK Labour Party conference 

-Yehudit Karp, former Israeli deputy attorney general 

-Michael Benyair, former Israeli attorney general

-Over 22 Canadian NGOs and organizations

-Human Sciences Research Council of South Africa

Would you like the links to every hundred page report, legal study, statement, analysis, special investigation committee, they published to get to those conclusions?

Or if you’re just lazy here’s a good video explaining why Israel is an apartheid state.

Or you can listen to Ta-Nehisi Coates describe visiting Israel and recognizing Israel's apartheid system to America’s apartheid.

Or listen to this Israeli scholar that visited Palestine and discovered the apartheid for himself.

Or maybe read A Day in the Life of Abed Salama and read how Israeli apartheid affects the average life of the every-day Palestinian.

Look at it for yourself. Look at what life is like for Palestinians under illegal occupation.

And listen to the Jewish experts on apartheid.

Ask yourself why Israel:

Armed the Rwandan genocide

Arms the Armenian genocide

Armed the Bosnian genocide and denied it's a genocide

Supported apartheid South Africa, did not enforce sanctions. To the point the ADL hired a spy to gather information on Black anti-Apartheid activists & Arab Americans who then shared that information with the South African government & the FBI.

Arms the civil war in South Sudan

And listen to what a genocide survivor and genocide scholar has to say about it. Listen to holocaust scholars. Read from Israelis.

On raising money, you're really comparing zionists raising $70,000 to buy and set up a stage to agitate students on the other side of the lawn, some of that money which was probably used to violently attack students with mace and fireworks a couple days later, or zionists raising $500,000 to throw counterprotesters a frat party for a people that made monkey noises at a black student and a fraternity that always seems to be under some new rape investigation

To a fucking $6,000 fund for pro-palestine students to buy face masks, respirators, covid 19 tests, and air purifiers? are you fucking joking? Did you even read what you linked? You think that makes you guys look good?

I will mock Zionists for spending nearly $100,000 on a counterprotest that wasn't even up for a week, and $500,000 on a party all goddamn day. It's genuinely embarrassing. At least Pro-Palestine students actually have demands- for their schools to divest from Israel. A completely reasonable goal where they did the same thing for apartheid South Africa. What are zionists demanding? Bring the hostages home? Yeah i'm sure the Hamas members in the tunnels under UCLA will listen and get on that pronto. Continue sending weapons to blow up children in Gaza? Yeah America is already doing that. Protest for no ceasefire? No peace deal? No hostage exchange? Just keep carpet bombing Gaza to no end and hope the hostages don't die? Keep killing entire families and think you wont radicalize the people that lost their loved ones into fight back?? It's fucking ridiculous and completely unserious.

We demand a ceasefire, we demand the return of hostages on both sides. We demand divestment. Universities have divested from Israel already. Our protests have reached Gaza and we are not relenting. These pictures above are all we need to know to keep protesting in spite of zionist aggressors and state sanctioned police violence. Yet the families of the hostages claim to care about are on the street protesting Israel bombing and shooting their children, what are you doing for them? They're being silenced by the media, shot with water canons, arrested, sent threatening letters by the government for speaking out against Netanyahu's war. So far Israel's careless violence has killed more hostages than they have saved.

Mother of captive soldier: State scared us into silence after our sons were abducted

A hostage’s mother says toxic gas from Israeli bombs killed her son. Is she right?

‘The hostages weren’t our top priority’: How Israel’s bombing frenzy endangered captives in Gaza

What are you doing for the people you are protesting for? $70,000 dollars to set up a stage to thin air and violently attack UCLA students. $500,000 to throw a racist frat a rager. That's why I don't take you or any zionist seriously.

You know, I was a brainwashed zionist once too but I dug myself out of the cult. I hope you get out of it too.

Imagine raising $70,000 to set up a screen and a stage on a cordoned off section of the lawn solely to play propaganda to thin air and agitate student protestors you are vastly outnumbered by and who have been peacefully ignoring you for days instead of...i dont know, giving that $70,000 it to the families of the hostages you are crying about who are currently being silenced by Israeli media for protesting their children being carpet bombed and shot to death waving white flags by their own government.

Zionists are completely unserious.

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I'm absolutely disgusted, idk if you use tiktok (for your sake I hope not) but there's been this pretty infamous (and memeable) incident where a guy was talking about "you evil ass religious Jews" talking about his personal baggage wrapped up in stereotypes and justified it by saying Free Palestine. He blocks Jews and Palestinians alike who call him out. Fast forward to another infamously antisemitic leftist tiktoker who's OBSESSED with calling Israel a settler colonial state, all he talks about is Israel. He blocks 90% of Jewtok because of course he does. He "calls out" this particular other creator, and I already roll my eyes because this is how it goes. The bare chested antisemite can get gently chastised with hollow words by their political allies, now they get a free "see I defended Jews" sticker, even though none of them spoke a word about the hostage situation or any other antisemitic incidents ever. But it gets worse, he immediately frames this as innocent Palestinians and "anti Zionist Jewish creators" getting silenced by this one insane individual, you see it's a step too far when you block the people you're trying to help and the good Jews who side with us, like okay? But the main point of his video was to make it about himself. See open antisemitism in the name of Palestine is a psyop essentially, a tool to justify Zionism. It "makes us look bad," "great now Zionists are going to shut down legitimate criticism of Israel harder than ever, thanks asshole," stuff like that... which is what Jews were anxious about from the opposite side in the first place. Glad to see zero self awareness. I just had to get this off my chest. Also apparently this guy (jamesgetspolitical) "studied genocide" and is/was a member of a fraternity with a huge white supremacist problem, like they've been investigated multiple times for this shit (as well as sexual assault stuff).

I am somewhat glad to say I have never heard of any of this, and am somewhat sorry that I looked up this Jamesgetspolitical creature. At first glance I thought he was a Babylon Bee post: the world's whiteguy-iest white guy, posturing with a Palestinian flag and the autobiography of Malcolm X. Turns out if someone puts a little effort into leftwashing, they can indulge in all the narcissistic and sadistic depths of internet trolling but still get upvotes for it, just as surely as someone can hide their misogyny and sexual harassment behind loudly saying "Karen" every now and then.