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greco-roman-jewess · 12 days ago

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Ok so I’m still working on that massive Breadtube antisemitism project but while I was doing that I found this exchange among all those screenshots.

The interesting thing that caught my eye about this particular screenshot is that if you look at the first and third comments you get something they never give- a clear explanation of what they think Palestinian terror groups should be able to do and still be moral. This is (working from this screenshot) the definition of “justified resistance”

1. Does not target children

2. Occurs outside of the “internationally recognized borders of Israel” which is sort of vague so for my purposes im defining that as excluding a areas of the “West Bank” and Gaza but including all of Jerusalem (that part is mostly because it means lest headache for me (finding out which part of Jerusalem they mean in the probably dozens of times my list just says Jerusalem sounds exhausting and impossible) and think it’s fair game because multiple countries recognize unified Jerusalem as belonging to Israel)

So now I am going to prove that by their own definition what Palestinians have done over the past 25 years is not “justified resistance”

This is a (probably) incomplete list of children (defined as one minute old to age 17)

[see bottom for collection details methodology and conclusions (still forthcoming)]

Pink denotes attacks outside of “international Israel” Purple denotes a victim from outside “international Israel” when the attack occurred within “international Israel” orange indicates a victim not from Israel and blue denotes attacks outside of Israel(there’s only one on this list)

********January 17th 2001*********

Ofir Rahum, 16, (2001) (of Ashkelon) traveled to Jerusalem to meet a young woman with whom he had conducted a relationship over the Internet. She then drove him toward Ramallah. At a prearranged location, another vehicle drove up and three Palestinian gunmen inside shot Rahum more than 15 times

Shalhevet Pass, (age 10 months) (2001) (Hebron) was killed by sniper fire at the entrance to the Avraham Avinu neighborhood

Eliran Rosenberg-Zayat, (15) (of Givat) Shmuel and Naftali Lanzkorn, (13) (of Petah Tikva) (2001) (Kfar Saba) were killed in a suicide bombing at a gas station

Yossi Ish-Ran, (14), and Kobi Mandell, (14), (both of Tekoa) (Jerusalem) (2001) were found stoned to death in a cave

Marina Berkovizki, (17), (of Tel Aviv),

Anya Kazachkov, (16), (of Holon),

Katherine Kastaniyada-Talkir, (15), (of Ramat Gan),

Aleksei Lupalu, (16) (of the Ukraine),

Mariana Medvedenko, (16) (of Tel Aviv),

Irina Nepomneschi, (16,) (of Bat Yam),

Yulia Nelimov, (16,) (of Tel Aviv),

Raisa Nimrovsky, (15 ) (of Netanya),

Liana Sakiyan, 16, of Tel Aviv),

Maria Tagilchev, (14,) (of Netanya),

Yael-Yulia Sklianik, (15) (of Holon),

Yevgenia Dorfman, (15) (of Bat Yam)

(2001) (Tel Aviv) killed when a suicide bomber blew himself outside a disco

Yehuda Shoham, (aged 5 months), (of Shilo) (2001) died of injuries incurred in a fatal stoning on June 5.

Michal Raziel, (16), (of Jerusalem),

Malka Roth, (15), (of Jerusalem),

Ra'aya Schijveschuurder, (14), (of Neria),

Avraham Yitzhak Schijveschuurder, (4), (of Neria),

Hemda Schijveschuurder, (2) (of Neria),

Tamara Shimashvili, (8), (of Jerusalem), Yocheved Shoshan, (10), (of Jerusalem)

(2001) (Jerusalem) killed in the suicide bombing at the Sbarro pizzeria

Aliza Malka, (17) (Kibbutz Merav) (2001) killed in a drive by near the kibbutz

Shoshana Ben Ishai, (16), (of Betar Illit),

Menashe (Meni) Regev, (14), (of Jerusalem) (2001) (Jerusalem) were killed when a Palestinian terrorist opened fire with a sub-machine gun

Assaf Avitan, (15), (of Jerusalem),

Israel Ya'akov Danino, (17), (of Jerusalem),

Golan Turgeman, (15), (of Jerusalem),

Adam Weinstein, (14), (of Givon Hahadasha)

Ido Cohen, (17), (of Jerusalem) (2001) (Jerusalem) when explosive devices were detonated by two suicide bombers on Ben Yehuda Street the pedestrian mall in the center of Jerusalem.

Yair Amar, 13, (of Emmanuel),

Avraham Nahman Nitzani, 17, (of Betar Illit)

(2001) (Emmanuel in Samaria) killed when three terrorists attacked a No. 189 Dan bus and several passenger cars with a roadside bomb, anti-tank grenades, and light arms fire

Yael Ohana, (11), and her mother were murdered in their home when an armed terrorist infiltrated Moshav Hamra, halfway between Jericho and Beit She'an (2002)

Nehemia Amar, (15),

Keren Shatsky, (15),

Rachel Thaler, (16), (all of Ginot Shomron)

(2002) (Karnei Shomron in Samaria) Killed when a suicide bomber blew himself up at a pizzeria

Avraham Eliahu Nehmad, (7), Shiraz (7) and Liran (3), (of Rishon Lezion)

Shaul Nehmad (15), (of Rishon Lezion)

Lidor Ilan (12) and his sister Oriah (18 months), (of Rishon Lezion),

Ya'akov Avraham Eliyahu(7 months) (of Jerusalem)

(2002) (Jerusalem)

Killed when a terrorist detonated the bomb next to a group of women waiting with their baby carriages for their husbands to leave the nearby synagogue

Avia Malka, (9 months), (of South Africa)

(2002) (Netanya) killed when two Palestinians opened fire and threw grenades at cars and pedestrians

Atara Livne, (15), (of Kibbutz Hanita)

(2002) killed when two terrorists opened fire from an ambush on Israeli vehicles traveling between Shlomi and Kibbutz Metzuba

Rachel Levy, (17), (of Jerusalem)

(2002) (Jerusalem) was killed when a female suicide bomber blew herself up in the Kiryat Yovel supermarket in

Gal Koren, (15), (of Haifa)

Orly Ofir, (16), (of Haifa)

Adi Shiran, (17), (of Haifa)

(2002) (Haifa) killed by suicide bombing

Elmar Dezhabrielov, (16)

(2002) (Rishon Lezion) killed by suicide bombing

Sinai Keinan, (aged 14 months),

(2002) (Petah Tikva) suicide bombing

Netanel Riachi, (17), (of Kochav Ya'akov)

Gilad Stiglitz, (14), (of Yakir)

Avraham Siton, (17), (of Shilo)

(2002) (Itamar) were killed when a Palestinian gunman infiltrated the community and opened fire on the teenagers playing basketball,

Hadar Hershkowitz, (14)

(2002) (Herzliya) was killed when a Palestinian suicide bomber set off a pipe bomb at a shwarma restaurant.

Shani Avi-Zedek, (15), (of Jerusalem)

Galila Bugala, (11), (of Jerusalem)

(2002) were killed in a suicide bombing at the Patt junction in Egged bus no. 32A traveling from Gilo to the center of Jerusalem. The bus, which was completely destroyed, was carrying many students on their way to school.

Neria Shabo, (16), Zvika, (12), and Avishai, (5) along with their mother

(2002) (Itamar) were murdered when a terrorist entered their home

Yonatan Gamliel, (16)

Sarah Tiferet Shilon, (8 months)

(2002) killed in a terrorist attack on Dan bus No. 189 traveling from Bnei Brak to Emmanuel in Samaria

Shuv'el Zion Dikstein, (9), (of Psagot),

(2002) killed in a shooting attack south of Hebron

Matan Ohayon, (5), and Noam, (4)

(2002) (Kibbutz Metzer) were killed when a terrorist infiltrated the kibbutz

Hodaya Asraf, (13), (of Jerusalem)

Ilan Perlman, (8), (of Jerusalem)

Michael Sharshevsky, (16), (of Jerusalem)

(2002) (Jerusalem) by a suicide bomber on a No. 20 Egged bus on Mexico Street in the Kiryat Menahem neighborhood of Jerusalem

Gavriel Hoter, 17, (of Alonei Habashan)

(2002) (Otniel) killed while working in the yeshiva kitchen, serving the Shabbat meal to some 100 students in the adjacent dining room

Smadar Firstater, (16), (of Haifa),

Kamar Abu Hamed, (12), (of Daliat al-Carmel),

Daniel Haroush, (16), (of Safed),

Tom Hershko, (15), (of Haifa)

Elizabeth Katzman, (17), (of Haifa),

Tal Kehrmann, (17), (of Haifa),

Abigail Litle, (14), (of Haifa),

Yuval Mendellevich, (13), (of Haifa),

Asaf Zur (Zollinger), (17), (of Haifa)

(2003) killed in a suicide bombing of an Egged bus #37 on Moriah Blvd. in the Carmel section of Haifa, en route to Haifa University.

Moran Menachem, (17), (of Jerusalem)

(2003) was found near Hadassah Ein Karem Hospital in Jerusalem, brutally beaten and stabbed to death.

Haviv Dadon, (16), (of Shlomi),

(2003) was struck in the chest and killed by shrapnel from an anti-aircraft shell fired by Hizbullah terrorists in Lebanon

Avraham Bar-Or, (12), (of Jerusalem), Binyamin Bergman, (15), (of Jerusalem)

Elisheva Meshulami, (16), (of Bnei Brak),

Tehilla Nathanson, (3), (of Zichron Ya'acov), Issachar Reinitz, (9), (of Netanya),

Shmuel Taubenfeld, (3 months), (of New Square, New York)

Shmuel Zargari, (11 months), (of Jerusalem)

(2003) were killed when a Palestinian suicide bomber detonated himself on a No. 2 Egged bus in Jerusalem's Shmuel Hanavi neighborhood.

Tomer Almog, (9), (of Haifa)

Assaf Staier, (11), (of Haifa),

Liran Zer-Aviv, (4),and Noya, (1), (of Kibbutz Yagur)

(2003) (Haifa) killed in a suicide bombing carried out by a female terrorist from Jenin

Hila Hatuel, (11), Hadar, (9), Roni, (7), and Merav, (2) (of Katif in the Gaza Strip)

(2004) were killed two Palestinian terrorists fired on an Israeli car at the entrance to the Gaza Strip settlement bloc of Gush Katif

Yuval Abebeh, (4),

Dorit (Masarat) Benisian, (2),

(2004) (Sderot), were killed by a Kassam rocket fired from Gaza while playing in the street

Gilad Niv, (11), and Lior, (3), (of Rakefet)

Khalil Zeitounya, (10), (of Jaffa)

(2004) (Taba Hilton) were killed in terror bombings at a Sinai holiday frequented by Israelis

Ayala-Haya (Ella) Abukasis, (17), (of Sderot)

(2004) was mortally wounded when a Qassam rocket landed near her and shrapnel penetrated her cerebellum, leaving her brain dead. She was struck while protecting her younger brother, who was lightly wounded.

*****second intifada ends*******

Avihai Levy, (17), (of Beit Hagai),

Aviad Mansour, (16), (of Otniel)

(2005) were killed in a drive-by terrorist shooting at a hitchhiking stop about 200 meters from the entrance to Beit Hagai, south of Hebron.

Rachel Ben Abu, (16), (of Tel Aviv)

Nofar Horowitz, (16), (of Tel Aviv)

(2005) (Netanya) were killed when a suicide bomber detonated himself outside Hasharon Mall

Oz Ben-Meir, (15), (of Maon)

(2005) was killed when Palestinians opened fire at the Gush Etzion junction south of Jerusalem

Shaked Lasker, (16), (of Kedumim)

(2006) was killed when a suicide bomber hitchhiker disguised as a yeshiva student detonated his explosive device in a private vehicle near the entrance to Kedumim

Daniel Wultz, (16), (of Weston, Florida)

(2006) (Tel Aviv) was killed by suicide bombing during the Passover holiday at the Rosh Ha'ir shawarma restaurant

Segev Peniel Avihail, (15), (of Neve Daniel),

Neria Cohen, (15), (of Jerusalem),

Yonatan Yitzhak Eldar, (16), (of Shilo)

Yohai Lifshitz, (17), (of Jerusalem);

Avraham David Moses, (16), (of Efrat)

(2008) (Jerusalem) were killed when a terrorist armed with a Kalashnikov assault rifle infiltrated the yeshiva and opened fire in the library

Yoav Fogel, (11), Elad, (4), and (3-month-old) Hadas

(2011) (Itamar) were stabbed to death by terrorists in their home

Daniel Viflic, (16), of Bet Shemesh,

(2011) died of mortal wounds suffered when an anti-tank missile was fired at a school bus in the Negev near Kibbutz Sa'ad

Yonatan Palmer, (1), (of Kiryat Arba), and his father

(2011) were killed when their car overturned on Route 60 near Hebron

Gilad Sha'er, (16), (of Talmon)

Naftali Frenkel, (16), (of Nof Ayalon)

(2014) were kidnapped by Hamas terrorists in the area of Gush Etzion, while trying to hitch a ride home. Their bodies were discovered after an extensive search on June 30.

Daniel Tregerman, (4), (of Kibbutz Nahal Oz),

(2014) was killed when a mortar shell fired from the Gaza Strip exploded outside the family’s home.

Shalom Aharon Badani, )17), (of Jerusalem)

(2014) (Jerusalem) succumbed to injuries sustained when a Palestinian terrorist used his car to deliberately drive into a crowd of Israelis near a light-rail train station

Hallel Yaffa Ariel (13) (of Kiriat Arba),

(2016)was murdered in her bed

*****last five years******

Rina Shnerb (17)

(2019) (Lod) was murdered when terrorists detonated an IED device near a popular tourist and recreation site

Ido Abigail (5)

(2021) (Sderot) killed by Palestinian rocket and mortar fire

Nadin Awad (16)

(2021) (Lod) killed in the rocket barrage from Gaza

Aryeh Shtsupak, (16),

(2022) (Jerusalem) killed in one of two almost simultaneous explosions at bus stops at separate entrances to Jerusalem

Asher Natan, (14)

(2023) (Jerusalem)

outside a synagogue near his home.

Yaakov Yisrael Paley, (6)

Asher Menahem Paley, (8)

(2023) (Jerusalem) car-ramming attack in the northern Jerusalem

Nachman Shmuel Mordoff, (17)

Elisha Antman, (17),

(2023) gas station attack near Ramallah

Oriya Hartom, 16,

(2024) (Ramallah) gas station shooting

Benjamin Achimeir, 14, (of the West Bank outpost Malachei HaShalom)

(2024) killed while herding sheep near the outpost

Majdal Shams rocket attack child victims (not listed in pink because they are Arabs and therefore not “settlers”) (2024)

Fajr Laith Abu Saleh, 16,

Ameer Rabeea Abu Salehl, 16,

Hazem Akram Abu Saleh, 15

John Wadeea Ibrahim, 13,

Iseel Nasha'at Ayoub, 12

Finis Adham Safadi, 11

Yazan Nayeif Abu Saleh, 12,

Alma Ayman Fakhr al-Din, 11

Naji Taher al-Halabi, 11

Milad Muadad al-Sha'ar, 10

Nathem Fakher Saeb, 16

Jafara Ibrahim, 11,

All data from

https://www.gov.il/en/pages/victims-of-palestinian-violence-and-

Only edits to data made for brevity and standardization (ie. standard order for name age year and location, excluding names of adult victims from list for multiple causality attacks, removal of information not necessary to convey information things like name of terrorist or name of pizza restaurant. Date information beyond year was also excluded)

October 7 2023 is intentionally excluded I will discuss it but it was not part of the list I drew my data from and therefore is not part of the final project.

I am focusing on child victims because that was one of the two parameters set out in the original screenshot. Note that this means this list is not at accurate representation of the full scope of terror and its consequences in Israel over the past 25 years. The list focuses exclusively on mortalities under the age of 18 this does not mean that I think children’s lives are worth more than adults, this does not mean I dismiss the trauma of non- fatal casualties of terror and my exclusion of late term pregnancies (there were several times it was mentioned that a woman was between 8-9 months pregnant) I understand that for the families of those pregnant victims they lost two family members not just one but for consistentency I counted all pregnancies mentioned (there were also mentions of women being 4-5 months pregnant) as part of the mother’s body and therefore a single adult victim.

Conclusions:

Under the assumption that violence against Jews can be justified as resistance if it is only directed at adults who reside outside of the 1967 ceasefire lines one cannot possibly claim that armed Palestinian groups have carried out “justifiable violence”.

In the past 24 years from the beginning of the Second Intifada at least 140 children have been killed by Palestinian “resistance fighters.”

This children were all killed in one of the at least 61 separate incidents of terrorism involving child fatalities, of these events 38 were listed being within *internationally recognized borders* 22 in *West Bank, Gaza or Sameria* and 1 at a vacation hotel in Egypt.

Many of the incidents would have involved direct enough contact with the victim to assess that they were a minor and not a threat such as stabbings, stoning and kidnappings. In several of the other incidents spaces likely to have minors present were intentionally targeted such as yeshivas, buses and pizzerias. It must also be noted that the other incidents involved imprecise methods likely to cause maximal damage deployed in areas occupied by civilians.

As I already presented of the 61 attacks I documented nearly two thirds took place within Israel’s internationally recognized boarders. 5 of those incidents involved child victims who were listed as “of” a town, city or settlement outside of the 1967 ceasefire lines and all were killed in situations where it would not have been possible to ascertain this fact before they were killed.

4 attacks also included a child fatally listed as “of” a foreign country (Ukraine, South Africa and the USA)

I want to make it clear that to my knowledge none of these attacks (except the Majdal Shams rocket attack but we all know that if they had hit Jewish children playing soccer they wouldn’t have apologized) have ever been called to be accidents, mistakes or misfires or apologized for by the groups or individuals who perpetrated them.

According to the scope of violence morality we can gather from the screenshot at the top of this post the Palestinian has historically been and continues to immoral. By antizionists own definition of moral violence.

Now I am going to address 7/10. The phrase “justifiable resistance” is often used as justification for the horrible violence of that day. Now from the previously described characteristics of “justifiable violence” by their own definition 7/10 was not “justifiable violence.” There is no official tally of minor victims but estimates place the number somewhere around 40 children were killed during the 7/10/23 attacks nearly all of them in their homes and several more (this number was also hard to find because all search engines suck now) somewhere around 30 Israelis age 17 and under were taken hostage. Two very young children Ariel (5) and Kifr (2) are still in captivity and at time of writing their fate is unknown. Most of these children were murdered in their homes many were killed in such a way that the perpetrators could have easily assessed that they were children. Every single one of the 7/10 attacks happened inside Israel’s internationally recognized boarders. By their own standards 7/10 could not have been justified resistance.

Thank you for reading tell me what you think!

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