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pixy-stix-art · 3 years

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This is my gift to @crystalk17 for the MCYT G/T content exchange!!!

I fell in love with this prompt (because it’s a favorite trope of mine) so I really hope you enjoy your story! I used Ranboo and Tubbo for this so hopefully that ok! And I had to add noms because you said that was ok. So I hope you enjoy! This is probably the longest fic I’ve ever written.

Prompt Used: “Anything with a predator and prey situation. Like preds and prey, cat and mouse, basically the unlikely friends situation.”

(Warnings: safe vore, swearing.)

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Ranboo was a black and white cat hybrid. And somehow Tuboo, who was a small brown mouse hybrid claimed Ranboo as his friend. Not caring how dangerous Ranboo was to him. Ranboo would obviously never hurt Tuboo, or any other hybrid. But it was very uncommon for a mouse to be seen happily hanging out with a cat.

“You sure you want to do this?” Ranboo asked his much smaller friend.

“Yep!” Tubbo nodded excitedly. “It’ll be fun!”

Ranboo shook his head. He had meant for the suggestion to be a joke. And of course Tubbo had took it seriously. Tubbo was being annoying as always trying to get Ranboo to play and chase him. Ranboo playfully pushed Tubbo away saying he wouldn’t stand a chance if he decided to actually chase after the mouse. Tubbo, being Tubbo took that as a challenge.

“You actually want me to chase you and hunt you down?” Ranboo was baffled by how Tubbo didn’t seem scared of the idea. He imagined it would be scary to have a giant cat run after you. Even if that cat was your friend.

“Yes!” Tubbo flicked his big brown ears in excitement.

Ranboo knowing the little mouse wasn’t going to give up on this. “Fine, I’ll do it.” Ranboo cut off Tubbo’s cheers. “Only if you tell me if it gets to much. Have a code word, or something.” He suggested.

“You want a safe word?” Tubbo asked confused why that would need that.

Ranboo continued. “I don’t actually want to scare you, so if you scream a random word, I’ll know to back off.”

Tubbo thought about it. It wasn’t a horrible idea. Though he didn’t see himself needing it. “Ok, the word will be… pancake!” He shouted.

“Pancake?” Ranboo questioned tilting his head to the side.

“Yes pancake.” Tubbo nodded satisfied with his word choice.

“Ok fine. Pancake it is then. But, if I win I want something.” Ranboo added.

“Oh? Now you want something?” Tubbo asked rolling his eyes.

“Yep!” Ranboo grinned smugly.

“Do I get to know what that something is?” Tubbo asked looking up at the cat.

“No, but you should start running soon.” He smiled.

“W-what?!” Tubbo squeaked.

“One, two….” Ranboo started counting.

“That’s so rude ya dick!” Tubbo shouted running off to hide.

Ranboo shook his head at his friend before getting up. He always made sure to keep his instincts in control. Especially around Tubbo. But now he lets that part of his brain take over as he begin to hunt Tubbo.

Tubbo knew this wasn’t going to be easy to win. But this also wasn’t the first time he had to run away from a cat. He made lots of turns getting out of sight as quickly as possible. He ducked under a book shelf to catch his breath. He looked out worried that he didn’t see Ranboo. Where did he go?

Ranboo stayed close to the ground sniffing the air. He smirked knowing where Tubbo was. He knew his friends scent by heart. He jumped up onto the couch to wait for Tubbo to grow board and come out.

Tubbo hadn’t seen Ranboo in a few minutes. He was a little worried. He slowly crept out from his hiding spot. His tail curled around himself as he looked around. He stepped out all the way from under the shelves. “What? Where are you?” He mumbled.

Ranboo tensed up getting ready to jump as Tubbo came out all the way. He smiled pouncing down next to Tubbo.

Tubbo screamed as Ranboo came out of nowhere and landed next to him. He ran off in another direction. Squeaking madly.

Ranboo let Tubbo run for a second before chasing after him. He was just about to reach him but then he hit his head. He fell to the ground hissing at the pain. He had been so focused on Tubbo he ran right into the couch.

Tubbo ran under the couch knowing Ranboo was right behind him. He gasped as he heard a loud thunk sound, tuning around to see Ranboo holding his head. He laughed putting together what happened. “Still think I’m a easy catch?!” He shouted at the cat.

Ranboo huffed looking under the couch at the smug mouse. He got up and quickly tried to swipe at him. He wasn’t close enough. He growled softly pacing around the couch.

Tubbo gasped as Ranboo tried to get him. But thankfully he was far enough back that he couldn’t be reached. He let out a shaky breath as he heard Ranboo growl. He was a little nervous now.

He watched carefully as Ranboo paced around the couch. He had to time this right, or he’d get caught way to easily. He quietly snuck over to the opposite end of the couch, and the second Ranboo was on the other side he took off running on all fours.

Ranboo gasped as he saw Tubbo dart out from under the couch. He jumped across the couch heading straight for him. Tubbo took lots of twist n turns but couldn’t find another good hiding spot. He could tell Tubbo was getting tired.

Tubbo wasn’t going to win this one he knew that now. He turned seeing Ranboo was right behind him. He tried to quickly turn, but ended up sliding across the floor, softly hitting the wall. He couldn’t get back up to run anymore.

Ranboo gasped worriedly as Tubbo hit the wall and not get up. He quickly went over to him to make sure he was ok. “Tubbo…?” He questioned. He gently poked Tubbo trying to get him to move. “You ok?”

Tubbo huffed as Ranboo poked at him. He swatted at the finger. “Fuck off.” He was exhausted now.

Ranboo smiled soft seeing Tubbo was ok. “You still think that was fun?” He asked a teasing tone to his voice.

“I- yes actually that was fun.” He rarely got to run around like that. Getting all that extra energy out was nice. But he was tired and needed a place to rest….

“Well, I’m glad you did enjoy it. It was actually fun.” Ranboo gently scooped up Tubbo from the ground. He held him to his chest. He walked over to the couch to sit down. He curled his fingers up around Tubbo resting his thumb on Tubbo’s chest. He could feel how fast his heart was going. It remind Ranboo of a hummingbird.

Tubbo curled up in Ranboo’s hand. Nuzzling the cats fingers.

Ranboo hummed looking down at Tubbo. “You remember when I said I got something if I won?” He smiled softly gently fidgeting with Tubbo’s tail.

Tubbo groaned rolling away from Ranboo. “What do you want?” He asked annoyed.

Ranboo brought Tubbo up closer to his face. “I want to eat you.” He purred.

Most mice would panic at a cat telling them that. But not Tubbo. He smiled looking at Ranboo. “That’s what you wanted? You could’ve just asked big guy.” He laughed.

“Yeah, but this was funner.” Ranboo nuzzled Tubbo with his nose. “Soooo…. Can I eat you?” He asked.

“Yes, you can.” Tuboo agreed not even having to think about it. You see this wasn’t the first time they had done this. It was a common thing between the two. Tubbo got to cuddle with Ranboo, and Ranboo got he keep Tubbo safe. Plus it satisfied his instincts.

Ranboo purred more at the answer. He wasted no time popping the small mouse into his mouth. He curled his tongue around Tubbo as he closed his mouth.

Tubbo laughed at how quickly he was eaten. He sighed relaxing as the long tongue curled around him. The sharp teeth clicked close behind him.

Ranboo enjoyed Tubbo’s taste a lot. It was savory and just a little sweet. He leaned back on the couch closing his eyes and he licked over Tubbo pushing him around in his mouth. Carefully chewing on him a little.

Tubbo knew how terrifying this would be if this was any other cat. But this was Ranboo, and he trusted him. He playfully pushed against the tongue pushing him around. He didn’t have enough energy to fight as much as he normally would. He gasped softly as he felt his tail got lightly chewed on. There was never any fear though.

Ranboo hummed happily as he gently sucked on Tubbo. He was so glad Tubbo trusted him enough to be able to do this. He pushed Tubbo to the back of his mouth seeing if he was ready.

Tubbo went limp as he felt himself slip back. He patted Ranboo’s tongue. “I’m ready.”

Ranboo swallowed after hearing Tubbo say he was ready. He pressed his fingers against his throat as he felt the small form slip deeper down past his collar bone.

Tubbo stayed as still as possible as he was swallowed. It wasn’t his favorite part, always seeming to take too long. Though it couldn’t be more then a couple seconds. Finally he fell into a more open space. Ranboo’s storage stomach. He crawled around finding the best spot to curl up at.

Ranboo purred louder feeling Tubbo move around in his storage stomach. He placed his hands over where he felt Tubbo moving, softly pushing at him. “You ok?” He asked making sure.

“Ya, I’m fine. You don’t have to check every time.” Tubbo rolled his eyes. He leaned against where he felt a soft pressure pushing at him.

“I know, but I just want to make sure you’re ok.”He rubbed at Tubbo a little.

“You worry too much.” Tubbo teased pushing against the silky wall.

“And you worry too little.” Ranboo replied. He simply rested his hands over his stomach.

Tubbo rolled his eyes huffing. He curled up in a good spot wrapping his tail around himself. “I’m going to fall asleep…” He mumbled. “It’s so cozy.”

“Rest then. I’m sure you’re tired from running around like that.” Ranboo spoke softly. This was perfect for them. Tubbo got to rest and Ranboo, not being tired from the chase could go about his day.

“Ok.” He yawned. The warmth added with a feeling of being completely protected by his favorite person, let him easily fall asleep.

Ranboo stood up, being mindful of his small passenger. He went to go work on some school work as Tubbo rested. He wouldn’t let anything get to Tubbo, he had him close as possible. His mouse was safe.

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chandelier-s-notebook · 3 years

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MCYT AUgust by me and @ghostofsilas Day 24: School AU

This guy is part of @itsmoonphobic’s Summer Vacation AU storyline that we’ve got going on on this Tumblr.

Lemme know if you want to be part of the taglist: @sleepysnails @causeimfabulous

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Tommy was the king of bad ideas, he could admit that, and he accepted it.

But this was a great idea and no one could tell him otherwise. Perhaps Techno looked incredibly disappointed every time Tommy brought it up, but what does he know?

Purpled was on his shift at the MooPop Café when he was told; he got them another server for the rest of their stay. Ranboo burrowed his face in his hands.

But Tubbo, the godsent that Tubbo was, was willing to help him even though he believed it was a horrible idea. They both looked expectantly at Ranboo and that’s how they got to where they are today.

Tommy and Tubbo are on the school roof and Ranboo is in the teacher parking lot three stories below.

This was a great idea.

You see, Tommy wanted to go bungee jumping, but that was expensive and far. So why not do it from the school?

“Many reasons,” Tubbo had said back in the café.

“But look. See. They have this platform ledge thing. It’s basically a crane. So if we get a crane I can jump!”

“How are we gonna get a crane Tommy?”

“We aren’t!” Tommy had said gleefully. “We’re going to use a fishing rod.”

Ranboo groaned.

“This is a horrible idea,” current Tubbo proclaimed as he threaded the fishing rod with stretch cords who’s packaging said it could carry Tommy’s weight. “Like a really bad idea.”

“Of course it is!” Tommy put on his ziplining harness and hooked the other end of the cord to it. “We’ll be fine.”

“I don’t think we will be. We are gonna get expelled for this.”

“No we won’t.”

“You aren’t worried about him dying?” Ranboo asked incredulously through speaker phone. “That thought hasn’t occurred to you?”

“It did. But Tommy’s not dead yet, and you weren’t there for the plane jumping incident.”

“I don’t want to know.”

“Good,” Tubbo said, tightening the cord. “Let’s hope I don’t fall.”

“Run us through the plan again Tommy?”

Tommy clapped loudly. “So! So so so. What’s going to happen Boo-Boy, it that you’re gonna pump up that air mattress. Then Tubbo and I will stand on the edge of the roof and I will jump. Because of the length of the fishing rod I will not hit the side of the building.”

“Are you sure about that?”

“Yes. And then, Ranboo you will be on the ground. If the cord snaps and I fall, you will try to time unplugging the air mattress with when I fall into it. Because I’ve watched those stunt guys, they fall from super high into stunt mattresses and then the air spreads out and doesn’t hurt them. So we’re doing that! But with an air mattress.”

Tubbo started walking towards the edge of the building. “This is the fourth time you’ve explained this and it doesn't sound any safer. Let’s do it!”

“Yeah!”

“No!” Purpled yelled, running onto the roof. “Stop! You guys are so dumb!”

“Hi Purpled.” Tommy saluted and took a running leap off the building. “Bye Purpled!”

“Tommy!” Purpled ran forward. Tommy was a lost cause, but he could at least grab onto Tubbo to keep him from following after Tommy because of the momentum. He grabbed the back of Tubbo’s sweatshirt and managed to pull him back.

Tubbo could feel when the cord snapped, because it sent him and Purpled flying backwards.

“Shit. Shit. Shit,” came through the phone. “Turn to your back Tommy!” they heard Ranboo scream.

Tubbo scrambled to the edge on his stomach and watched Ranboo unplug the air mattress just before Tommy hit it. The air dissipated and Tommy sunk into the ground.

Ranboo scrambled over to check if Tommy was okay.

“I do not see any kind of head injury on him.”

Tubbo and Purpled watched Ranboo check over the boy very briefly.

Then Tommy batted Ranboo’s arms away and jumped up. “I wanna do that again!”

“No!”

“Never!”

“Tommy, no!”

“Tommy, yes!”

“That’s enough of you.”

“But Ranboo!”

“Nope. Nu-uh. You’ve had your fun. You did the thing. We are skipping class right now.”

“Fine. See you in class Tubzo!”

“Bye Tommy!” Tubbo said before ending the phone call. “Sorry, Purpled.”

“You better be,” he said, pulling himself up. “The office called my class to tell us that my friends were on the roof. I jumped.”

“So did Tommy.”

Purpled looked Tubbo in the eyes for one second before screaming in despair.

#TommyInnit #Tubbo #Ranboo #Purpled #Summer Vacation AU #MCYTAUgust2021

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mariaiscrafting · 3 years

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ahhhh ty ty ty <3

ok, so I think that what makes Dream act this way (iykyk) is how dreamwastaken became so big so quickly. and by quick I mean fucking lightning speed.

he didn't have enough time to learn enough about cc etiquette, especially in these three aspects: influence, boundaries and fanbase/stans/whatever you call it. I'll try to explain it:

• Influence: Does he know the influence he has? Like, when he hears that he is the myct with the largest fanbase, does he really process that? I remember he talked about not being able to control all of his fanbase and there's bad apples everywhere -- which is true, and that only like 1% of his fanbase breaks his boundaries (that include sending hate for him, harassing, doxing, etc. yk, basic twitter culture lol) but, honey, with your big ass fanbase, 1% is still a lot of people. As a content creator you *have* to be aware of that.

let's take the hbomb situation. First off, as a streamer, it's you that set the mood of the stream. Even if he was only messing around with his pals, even if they did say to do not send hate to hbomb, dt dunking on him created a toxic environment, which caused his fans being toxic towards hbomb and you know what happens next. Hell, when this happened, I was watching Tapl and he was watching them and he was crying laughing over them screaming bc they were just. so loud and so aggressive that it was kinda ??? Sirs, this is literally a Minecraft Stream lmaooo

my point is, that was not the road that dreamwastaken, 21M fans, should've taken. he don't condone his fans actions but he knows his fans are diehard and will always be on his side, he should be more careful before stating negative opinions, especially if its towards another person.

• Boundaries and Fanbase: He posted a list of his boundaries a while ago, idk if you know or seen it (btw please george copy your bestie for the love of god <3) but I'm not talking about those boundaries, I'm talking about the basic boundaries between cc and viewer. boundaries that, in my opinion, should exist between cc and viewer. I get that Dream is an open person, an oversharing type of open person if I may add, but I think he should take a step back regardless. When I heard that he was taking a time from twitter, I genuinely got so glad, not because he couldn't start any drama then, but because it would do so so good for his mental health. I'm not even that fond of him, it's just that for me, any cc taking a break or outright leaving twitter is a win for me. I know how RSD is hard to deal and honestly letting shit out it's better but dream you have dt you have bbh so please don't make things worse online 😭 I know how good can be to feel validation from millions of people but. it's not a good idea, especially in the state that his fanbase is on rn (this topic is kinda sensitive to talk abt for me bc people be outright ableist and hide it as criticism like. say that shit's not helping his reputation and whatever without acting like he's fucking. manipulating his fanbase for being affected by his rsd💀 or, on the other hand, don't say that hes just being adhd🤪 when he's just being an asshole like damn that's a Him thing bro lol)

(omg it's so big I'm so sorry and theres a part two I'm so sorry tumblr user messed-up-gal ToT) - morango 1/2

pt. 2:

Dream is the proof that the people who loves you can be your downfall. istg. Have you noticed that every drama that Dream enters, people usually get more mad abt how his fanbase reacts (85% they'll react in a bad way) than Dream himself? it's not always, but its definitely more likely. I'm not saying Dream is saint, he Is petty and his ego does him dirty and made him choke multiple times before,, But! i dont think hes a bad guy. he's literally just a dude. ok, he's a 21yr old white gamer man that has a trumpie past (maybe?? idk. I think hes cured now ig lol) so he's bound to do some shitty things but he still tries to get better and hopefully he'll mature. 21 is old enough but it's still so young, yk? I kind of lost my mind during the end and my eyes are literally begging to be closed so tl;dr: Its gonna be hard for him to become a better cc bc his fans don't let him be criticized (by infantilizing his adhd symptoms or the mob mentality as soon as someone says anything abt him), the honest criticism get lost between lies from antis that don't know shit, he still has a lot of growing up to do and overall he became famous too fast and he needs to learn things even faster bc as soon as there's not a single one dream hater on sight they'll turn their back and attack him instead lmao I hate twitter i definitely have more to say but I'm tired and my memory is shit. just-- hate dream if you want, love dream if you want, nobody is obligated to have an opinion but I wanted to express mine. have a lovely day! -morango 2/2

Aight, there's a lot to unpack here, so Imma try to only go into the points I have something to add to (here's what I talk about in each paragraph, if you want to jump to a specific point):

Speed of Dream's rise to fame

The "bad apples" in the Dream fanbase

Post-MCC HBomb stream

Not condoning versus actually condemning his fans

Manipulation & RSD

Criticism of Dream, his fanbase, and his brand

The “just a dude” argument, flipped

First, I agree that one of the many factors that has resulted in the current image Dream has set up for himself, the way his fanbase functions, the ways people hate on him, and the way the Dream brand functions, is the speed of his rise to fame. It's unique, and there are probably a hundred social/psychological angles that could be used to examine the exact effects of that speed upon all of these facets of the Dream Name; did rapid fame beget the rapid rise of unrighteous hatred, did those waves of hatred then instigate the rise of a surprisingly overdefensive fanbase, did that rapid fame get to his head and/or result in an inability to appropriately handle all the after-effects of rapid fame, etc.? That point you bring up, about how the speed of his rise to fame requires him to learn even more quickly, is so interesting to me. I think that maybe Dream expected to get pretty famous pretty quickly, hence the preparedness in regards to some mechanics of influencer fame- merchandise, business-building, networking, knowing how to manage his fanbase to best benefit him. But I don't think he expected to get this famous this quickly. This is all speculation of course, as are this entire post and your ask, but I think that he just couldn't anticipate having to learn how to handle enmasse controversy, waves of antis, or every Youtuber speculating/knowing about him; and yeah, that results in him having to learn all of these things very quickly, lest he allow his whole brand and fandom to fall apart.

Second, I disagree with the frequent argument that Dream's fanbase is only marginally toxic. Personally, I think that the circumstances of Dream's fame, his personality and management of his fanbase, and his brand of content have resulted in the very specific kind of stan that Dream stans are. I don't think this is simply a case of "all fandoms have a small percentage of assholes who take it too far;" rather, the nature of the community itself breeds the kind of mentality of "an asshole who takes it too far." I only even know this because I was a Dream fan (kinda a stan, I'm ngl). At one time, I watched every single Dreamwastaken & Dream Team video multiple times; I listened to the Manhunts on repeat, as though they were podcasts; I followed mostly smiletwt and dttwt accounts on mcyttwt; I had upwards of 10 tabs for AO3 DNF fics open on my phone at a time; I watched DNF and Dream Team Being A Family-esque compilations on repeat; I watched every George and Sapnap alt stream I possibly could; I went out of my way to defend Dream against Redditors and Twitter antis regarding the cheating scandal. For the latter half of 2020, and a couple months of 2021, I lived and breathed this part of the fandom; so when I say that Dream stans are a whole other breed than any other kind of mcyttwt stan, I say that because I used to be like that, too. I usually use parasocial very loosely or ironically, but Dream stans are genuinely one of the most parasocial fanbases I have ever seen or been a part of. The level of investment Dream stans have in this man's life, the lengths they will go to to defend him, the amount of psychonalysis and digging they do on his life and character, the amount of emotion he can evoke in them- it's taken to another level, man. This isn't just characteristic of a fraction of his fanbase; this is what the fanbase is like as a whole.

Third, I partially disagree with your take on the HBomb thing, but not in the way one might think? I actually empathize with the way they reacted much more than I thought I would, simply because I suspect I have RSD (also suspect I have ADHD, have for several months now) and I can see myself getting insanely frustrated because of something like that. Like yeah, it was "just a MC stream" or "just an MC game," but that's kinda disregarding the fact that something that might seem like "just a [insert inconsequential thing]" to a rational mind might have a major emotional consequence/take a major emotional toll on someone with RSD, or really anyone who gets easily impatient/angry about video games (Sapnap reminds me of many of my friends, in that way). The issues I, personally, had with the way they handled the HBomb situation is that these are simply explanations and reasons for my empathy; they are not excuses. I have no excuse when I get irrationally angry about something inconsequential in my own life, for a couple of reasons. One, because I am an adult and I need to learn how to handle my reactions and manage my own anger. Two, because as someone with many mental problems, it is my responsibility to learn coping mechanisms to ensure my own emotional stability and livelihood; this includes learning whatever I need to handle RSD- whether that be isolating myself from others when I know I will become violently/passionately angry about something, creating and sustaining a support system that can get me through bouts of extreme emotion, finding healthy emotional outlets for my negative emotions that won't harm myself or others, or a combination thereof. I don't think what they said about HBomb post-MCC was an irreversibly horrible thing, or anything. I think there were errors committed by two men who should be fully capable of foreseeing and preventing those errors, but I don't unconditionally hate Dream or Sapnap for the post-MCC stream or comments. I just wish they had made amends quickly, publicly, and sufficiently, because the greatest consequences from the whole thing weren't even from those two criticizing HBomb themselves; they were from the waves of backlash because of their immense influence on the MCYT fandom, which could've been prevented, if they had acted maturedly and responsibly after the stream.

Fourth, you’re right, that he doesn’t seem to condone his fans’ behavior. I detest the frequent anti argument that one of the reasons Dream should be criticized is because he explicitly uses his fanbase to attack others, or something of the sort. Personally, I think he created his fanbase in a very specific way and interacts with them in such a way so as to benefit him as much as possible, yes, but he never actually tells his fanbase to go and yell at or harrass anyone. Still, there is a significant difference between not condoning something and condemning something. It might seem unfair, and it might be annoying of me to say this, but I truly think that someone with this large a fanbase, especially one as overzealous as Dream’s, needs to be condemned every single time it goes on some kind of rampage/harrassment campaign. Either that, or Dream needs to make a definitive, permanent statement against any kind of harrassment of others on his behalf. I know he’ll occassionally make the odd tweet or serious stream addressing something his fanbase did, but one of the many reasons his fanbase keeps doing the same damn thing is because he’s so lukewarm and spotty about this condemnation. A fanbase like his needs to be given explicit guidance and boundaries for the numerous things they do in his defense- harrassing/doxing antis, harrassing people who criticize him who aren’t antis (respectful criticism, other CCs, other MCYT stans, etc.), harrassing the people he critcizes (i.e., HBomb), speculating about his personal life (his relationship with his gf, his mental health/ADHD, his romantic life, his childhood, etc.), and speculating about his relationships with his friends and colleagues. My personal ideology is that, if you have significant influence over someone or a group of people, you are at least somewhat responsible for the things those people do or don’t do, if it at all relates back to you. I’m so fucking tired of the argument that CCs aren’t responsible for what their fans do. Obviously they aren’t responsible for every single one of their fans, and obviously they can’t fully control their fans at the end of the day. But I think there are certain things that reach such a level of extremity that does make those CCs responsible. This can be measured by either scale or intensity; that is to say, if a CC’s fanbase does things on an extremely large scale, or one person from/a fraction of the fanbase does something really extreme, then the CC is made all the more responsible. Another CC I’ve always had trouble discussing with other people on this subject is Pewdiepie, in particular, about the extremists in his fanbase. Because the things a small handful of his fans have done in reference to him and/or in his name were so fucking extreme, I thought Pewdiepie had to take at least some responsibilty. Along a similar vein, because the things Dream’s general fanbase does are so widespread and on such a massive scale, Dream has to take at least some responsibility.

Fifth, okay. Hmmm. I want to tackle this point you made about the ableism he faces in some criticism of him carefully and with empathy, but not coddling. One, I do think a lot of the criticism he receives for the ways he handles criticism (post-cheating Tweets, reactions to John Swan, post-MCC HBomb stream, etc.), disregard his RSD and can be oftentimes ableist. I’ve actually encountered people irl who criticize this aspect of Dream’s character, and have had to explain to them their disregard for how ADHD/RSD affect neurodivergent people’s reactions to criticism. But - and this is a big, and very controversial but - I think mentally ill/disordered people can 100% leverage their mental illness/disorders for the sake of manipulation. This is actually something I’ve learned from a psychiatrist, regarding the ways people I know and I handle our anxiety and depression. This manipulation can be unwitting or intentional, but it is entirely possible, and the possibility shouldn’t be entirely dismissed as ableist. Living with a mental illness or disorder that others know about/that you are very public about puts you in an interesting position to receive frequent sympathy, empathy, and/or pity. I’m not saying that empathy for Dream having ADHD/RSD is entirely unjustified; on the contrary, I have frequently expressed how I can relate to his ADHD symptoms and have defended him for expressing those symptoms, both on mcytblr and in real life. I am saying that Dream fans tend to use his ADHD as a kind of shield for a lot of criticism levied against him, including the supposition that he could be manipulating his fanbase to defend him because of his public expressions of RSD. So yes, my theory is that Dream knows how to levy every aspect of his life for his personal gain and for the growth of his brand, and that includes his ADHD. I think he has courage for his openess about his ADHD, I think his openness has contributed to the rise in awareness of mental health and empathy for neurodivergent people within Gen Z, and I think at least some of his expressions of RSD publicly/online weren’t intentionally made public. All that being said, I also think he has to know just how much his fanbase cares about defending him for his ADHD, and I think he has to know that some of the things he does related to his neurodivergence endear him to his audience, in a coddling, baby-ing, mildly ableist sorta way. Maybe this is all incredibly presumptuous of me. Of course, I can never know the real intentions behind any Dream video, Tweet, or stream. Maybe I’m just projecting, because I can see myself doing just this, if I had the maturity I had circa 2018-2019. Idfk know, man.

Sixth, I actually agree with you here, people probably do get more mad at his fanbase than him. Dream puts out content pretty seldomly, considering the frequency of content output for other Youtubers/streamers in his field/at his brand size. And yet, he has received masses of criticism. Considering that the things Dream himself does/says do not entirely correlate with the amount of criticism he receives, I think it’s a logical assumption that a lot of that criticism actually goes back to the size of his presence online, rather than the man himself. That is to say, because of the massive community he’s amassed, the exponential growth of his fanbase, their presence on every single social media site and in virtually every single Internet space/fandom, and the size of his metaphysical presence in his fields, Dream is much bigger than the man himself, so the criticism he receives will, at least in part, be a direct or indirect result of all these other aspects of the Dream brand. Something I don’t think many Dream fans/stans, or even most MCYT fans in general, understand, is that Dream isn’t just “one guy” in the eyes of the Internet- at least, not anymore. He hasn’t been for nearly a year. Like Pewdiepie, Mr. Beast, and other CCs who have amassed similar levels of fame and wealth via Internet content creation, Dream is a brand now, and most people will treat him as such. He isn’t just some uwu soft boy playing Minecraft anymore. He is on a whole other level from any other MCYT in his friend circle or colleague interaction bubble. His words will never again live in a vaccum or private bubble, his friend circle will never again be under anything less than intense scrutiny, his past actions will never again be simple mistakes or silly errors, his words will never again be casual tweets or streams for laughs among a couple thousand followers. Dream’s name represents something much bigger than just the one man. As such, all aspects of his brand, including his fanbase, will tie back to him and, ultimately, to any general criticism of him.

I’m not saying I like any of this, and I actually think the evolution of influencers from people to a marketable brand with similar mechanisms, responsibilities, and liabilities as a corporation is some kind of late capitalism nightmare fuel; I’m just stating my own observations and theories as to why so much anti-Dream criticism seems to be directed at his fanbase, rather than him.

Seventh, he’s just a guy, you’re right, but I think a lot of the antis on Tumblr understand this more than you know. As I’ve seen it, the sentiment among much of the “DSMP stans DNI” crowd seems to be that of “Dream/other MCYTs are such ‘bad’ people, so why do their fans stick to these mediocre, racist men, when there are so many better people to watch/better content to consume?” We know this argument is flawed for many of the obvious reasons - the conflation of all MCYTs’ actions regardless of individual identity, the equating of a CC’s fanbase’s morality to that of the CC they enjoy watching, the exxageration of any error MCYT CCs have committed as bigotry/racism, the fundamental misunderstanding and misinformation that led antis to believe this exxageration of the facts, etc. But I want to focus on the general, underlying sentiment of, “why not watch someone better, when your creator is problematic?” Sometimes, I ask this of Dream stans. Yes, being mildly ignorant, getting involved in the scandals Dream has, and being a right-leaning/libertarian centrist in the recent past all seem like harmless things, all things considered. One could say Dream isn’t nearly as bad as many antis who are misinformed seem to believe, and that there are much worse CCs Dream stans could be watching and creating fan content for. But I think what Tumblr antis wonder is, aren’t there also much better MCYTs/CCs people could be watching and stanning? Because he’s just some guy, right? Is his content truly so exceptional or is he really so exceptional a person, that people have to stick by him, despite the things that spike up regarding his current or past actions? I think that’s what made me finally decide to stop watching Dream. I realized he was just Some Guy. The Dream Team was a comforting dynamic to indulge in, DNF was a cute ship to read and speculate about, and Manhunts were fun videos to watch; however, once the Reddit posts came out and I read them in-depth, the cost-benefit analysis tipped over to the “not worth it” side for me. I realized Dream’s content, while fun and comforting, was not entirely unique, and wasn’t worth sticking around for, given what I then knew about his past political leanings. If he is just Some Guy, then there are a hundred more like him out there. There a hundred more ships, a hundred more found family dynamics, a hundred more entertaining and skilled Minecraft players. So while I agree with you on the point of people being allowed to love him regardless because he is just a guy, at the end of the day, I think that, if we are to believe that sentiment or use that argument in such a manner, we should also understand the flip side- that, if he is just some guy, why is it worth sticking around? To that I say, maybe because people just enjoy the simple things they enjoy.

Anyways, I wholly agree with your tl;dr. Thanks for that insanely long ask, this was a fun thing to keep me occupied while I’ve been at work, facilitating Zoom sessions this whole morning.

#ive been writing this on and off since 830 am est SHEESH #dreamwastaken #dream critical #eh i think im relatively lenient of him here given my past posts ab him #but still just in case the blacklist tags for yalls convenience:#discourse #/neg #asks #long post #long posts #this a LONG one bois #morango

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