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youhearbiggirls · 4 months
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YHBG ~ "Bad Boy" Volume Discussion
It's a wrap! Our "Bad Boy" discussion is now available everywhere you listen to podcasts, and despite the chapter not being that deep, we found plenty to talk about! Listen along as @lostcauses-noregrets, @siriuscc and @tsuki-no-ura talk about the joys of translations, Acker-Awakenings, and Levi's childhood tea making technique
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Discussion Time Stamp
0:00 Intro with Momtaku & Luna
3:50 Guest Introductions - Lostcauses, Marie and Tsuki-no-ura
6:38 Is "Bad Boy" a fair translation of the new chapter title?
7:58 Thoughts on the Shingeki Fly bundle
11:08 American vs French fans
16:45 Translation challenges of Bad Boy and Attack on Titan in general
24:41 "Bad Boy" chapter impressions
30:43 Is Levi's age confirmed?
33:04 Have we hear the tea cup story before?
35:30 Ackerawakening vs Ackerbond
52:16 Levi's hero journey
55:02 Reference to Kenny as Levi's father
1:01:21 Ask from Mysh (shymshym) on Twitter: Levi's Titan-like transformation?
1:09:05 Ask from Mysh on Twitter: Any Ackerlore?
1:16:53 Levi's post canon life
1:22:45 Rate Levi's tea making technique
1:29:22 Isayama learns to draw digitally & his post canon life.
1:36:40 Break
1:37:20 Luna discusses her trip to Japan: Shingeki cafes, feeding the deer, and Disney Sea. (Also if anyone wants Connie merch - hit her up!)
1:59:36 Momtaku discussed her visits the Netherlands: Museums, food, kitties and binge watching Avatar
2:16:37 Future podcasts? Probably not. Goodbyes!
Links this episode
Interviews from Shingeki Fly: https://twitter.com/AttackOnFans/status/178856461894147690
Fan Translation: https://dto.to/chapter/2831302
Translation analysis: https://www.tumblr.com/tsuki-no-ura/750192956623994880/bad-boy-translation-analysis
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momtaku · 5 years
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So I guess there won't be a podcast this mouth?
There is. I just haven’t had time to write the post yet. Our guest this month will be my friend Leslie who I met doing Andrew Allstars live-streams. He’s a self described “democratic jaegerist” so I can’t wait to find out what that means 😂
We record Tuesday but then I immediately leave for Katsucon so I might be a little late getting it published.
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falcon94ssy · 5 years
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Are you part of the you see big girl podcast?
Nope~
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aot-snk-4238 · 4 years
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SNK Meta Part 1: Historia
After listening to the latest YHBG podcast, I thought I'd add a few miscellaneous thoughts of my own regarding where the rest of the story is headed, how I feel about Historia, and Ymir's fate. I'm going to start with Historia since I've had a lot on my mind about her that I haven't figured out how to put into coherent words until now. I'm going to split this post into three parts so it doesn't turn into a novella, so expect my thoughts on Ymir's fate next, followed by how I think the rest of the story will go based on where we are right now.
To kick things off, I agree wholeheartedly with what Puppet said in the beginning of the podcast about how even if Historia is given a decent ending, the wait leading up to that has made it not worth it either way. This whole pregnancy plot has been dragged out and dangled just out of our reach for far too long and I'm sick and tired of it. It's been my least favorite plot twist in the whole series by far and I just don't understand what the point of it was. I've been wondering for a long time whether the whole idea of her getting pregnant was something that Isayama had in mind for a while and planned out in advance, or if it was more of a last minute decision because he didn't know what to do with her anymore. If it's the latter, then no wonder it's been so poorly done. But hey, now I finally understand how Annie's fans felt having to wait 8 years for her to make her return in the manga. That's another thing that was mentioned in the podcast; Because Annie's character had been sidelined for so long, the hype and the excitement was just not there when she finally woke up. I remember not feeling as excited as I thought I would, despite being happy to see her again. That doesn't mean there was no hype at all, it just means that people's reactions were watered down from being too weary of the unbelievably long wait. This is how I feel about Isayama's handling of Historia throughout this final arc. Too drawn out, too confusing and just too boring. To wrap up my point, here's a compilation of every appearance that Historia has made post time-skip:
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Five. Over the course of 2 years and 4 months, we have seen Historia in the present time a total of five times. And once you've viewed them all in order, you'll notice that nearly each time she appears, it's always for just one panel. Not to mention she hasn't spoken a single word. The last one implies screaming, but not even that gets a speech bubble. We don't know what the other women in the room are saying to her and we don't know what she was thinking when she opened her eyes for a brief moment. Finally, you'll notice that in two out of these five appearances, we can't even see her face. Her reaction to Eren's announcement is the only one that remains completely obscured and at this point I'm not sure if we'll ever get to see it. Looking forward, I'm worried that the next time we see her post time-skip will be the last. She will have had her baby, we see one or two panels of her holding her/him, and that's it. Still no dialogue, still no knowledge of her current thoughts, just nothing worth making note of. It would be great to see her happy and finally proud of her life again, but it still wouldn't make up for her prolonged absence that's given people very little to talk about other than, "WHO'S THE FATHER?!" I don't even think the anime can fix this one. There's just not enough to work with. Isayama had set up plenty of opportunities to re-introduce her throughout this arc and actually give her a voice, but they were always passed up. The first one was in chapter 111:
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I was led to believe that Nile would be sent out to check on Historia and that's how we'd see her again, but we all know how that turned out...
The next instance was in chapter 115, where it was thought that Hange would end up on Historia's farm after rescuing Levi and swimming away with him. Nope. Okay...
The last instance was chapter 125 where everyone had split up and was heading in different directions. We were hoping that one of those groups would run into Historia, but that didn't happen either. Nobody has ended up on her farm, which means no one except for Eren has interacted with her in a long time. *Sigh* Do you see why I'm frustrated? Now with all of that being said, this hasn't ruined Historia's character for me completely. She still had a great role to play in Clash of the Titans arc and the Uprising arc, and I'll always enjoy those parts of the story. Isayama is certainly not a terrible writer, on the contrary he's quite talented. But like every other writer out there, he has his flaws and to me personally, this is one of them. And like I mentioned earlier, I'll be okay as long as she finds happiness in the end, but I'll always wish that she could have had a more active role to play in the final stretch of the story rather than...this. Literally anything other than this would have been fine with me and I know there are plenty of others out there who feel the same. To those who do, I feel you. All we can do now is sit back and enjoy the rest of the story, and that's just what I plan to do.
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panicawa · 4 years
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Today episode's pacing was horrible. So many scenes got cut out. It should've been a 40 minutes episode or split into 2 episodes. This remind me of WIT's uprising arc all over again. Now anime only will never learn the secret to Reiner's buff body.
I’ll have to watch it a few times more and also let some time pass for everything to set in, but I really, really disliked the third episode too, yeah... I really liked episodes 1 & 2, the first one was perfect, the second one felt too quick, but I still enjoyed it greatly, especially with all the nice additions they’ve made. (I took part in YHBG podcast this week, btw, so you can hear my detailed thoughts on episode 2 right here!) But episode 3 just left me very upset in every possible way. I am not sure if I like the alterations that were made, they left me confused to say the least. All the cut material... A lot of it was very plot-important. They cut so much of it that they could have easily made one more full episode with all the cut scenes (while both of those episodes would have had the rushed quick pacing STILL). I didn’t like the directing and the music, I didn’t like colour choices for many scenes, I didn’t like the animation, it was very sloppy with many badly drawn frames compared to the first two episodes. Just... YUCK. I am very-very hopeful for episode 4, however, and there are a few reasons for that. 
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youhearbiggirls · 5 months
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YHBG "Bad Boy" Guest Announcement
YHBG is back... sort of! Momtaku will be joined by @lostcauses-noregrets and @seitsen-sarvi for a chapter discussion of "Bad Boy". Luna meanwhile can't be bothered with Levi's tragic teacup tale, but she'll be around after the break to discuss her trip to Japan and my visit with her in the Netherlands.
We'll be recording on May 17th, so reach out on twitter or tumblr if you have any questions for us or our guests
Thanks as always for listening!
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youhearbiggirls · 3 years
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YHBG ~ Any Way The Wind Blows Podcast Discussion
Podcast regular @attackonmomlife and fandom writer @stillmadaboutpetra join YHBG co-host @momtaku to discuss Rainbow Rowell's latest in the Simon Snow series, "Any Way the Wind Blows". We hope you’ll listen along as we discuss the moments we loved and the thoughts had about this incredible final installment to the Simon Snow trilogy.
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Introductions 00:00:32 Introduction to guests  00:01:26 Introduction to the series 00:02:24 Trigger warnings 00:03:30 How did you find the series and are you normally a fan of YA literature? 00:09:40 One thing we loved, one thing that surprised us, and one thing we were less than enthused about. 00:14:40 Our involvement in the fandom   00:17:41 Shepard Love & the triumphs and travails of being a fandom writer 00:22:22 Why Wayward Son was awesome 00:26:20 Rainbow's quote about intimacy and trauma
Simon 00:33:20 Initial thoughts about the Chosen One narrative  00:37:09 Simon and intimacy   00:48:08 Implications of being a dragon, immortality and vampire world building 00:52:28 Was the plot too light? 00:54:14 Simon and Smith Smith-Richards
The World of Mages 00:57:30 We all hate the World of Mages. Thank goodness for Shepard 01:03:06 The importance of the Old Stories (or lack thereof) 01:08:08 Will Simon get his magic back? 01:15:53 Too many loose threads? Spoiler alert: No! 
Family: 01:18:46 Simon's discovery of his biological family 01:22:51 Fiona is stinky and vampires were not important 01:26:25 Three cheers for Daphne 01:28:32 Would Natasha have accepted Baz?
1:30:00 BREAK
Agatha and Naimh 01:31:17  Mixed feelings about Agatha's return to the magical world 01:34:20 Rainbow's quote about difficulty writing Agatha 01:38:04 Agatha as the new Ebb? 01:40:36 Naimh 01:43:00 Agatha's sexuality and sexy times with Simon?    01:45:38 Ensemble moment gathering the goats 01:47:15 Penny's time to solo shine ... as a crime lord? 01:49:22 Pippa and Baz's redemption 01:53:43 Favorite Quote? Favorite Spell? 01:56:24 If Rainbow were to continue the story, what would you want? 02:01:31 Shoutout to the EsGAYpe From Reality podcast  2:03:06 Thank yous and goodbyes
 Links This Episode:
Find Mad on AO3
Momtaku’s favorite AWTWB meme
EsGAYpe From Reality Podcast
A deeper read:
Mad’s thought on Simon’s construction of masculinity
Simon as a terrible boyfriend
Never let them tell you you’re not magic
Is this what people do?
About the Podcast  You Hear Big Girls began as a monthly Attack on Titan manga discussion. We're now branching out to discuss other media we enjoy. The YHBG podcast is available on Youtube, Stitcher, Spotify and iTunes. 
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youhearbiggirls · 4 years
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YHBG Chapter 136 Guest Announcement
With Levi having a focus and giving what might be his swan song, we're excited to welcome two longtime Levi fans, writer @lostcauses-noregrets​ and artist @seitsen-sarvi​ to be our guests on the 136 podcast.
if you have any questions or topics you’d like us to discuss, please let us know.
Thanks as always for listening!! 
About this Podcast YHBG is a monthly Attack on Titan chapter discussion that is available on Youtube, Stitcher, Spotify and iTunes. If you enjoy our content and would like to help offset costs, please consider supporting us on Kofi or Patreon. If you’d like to be a guest, please visit our website.
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youhearbiggirls · 4 years
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YHBG ~ Chapter 134 with @hamliet and Puppet
Black London, Pennywise, babies, lots of babies and HELOS HAS ARRIVED! We welcome you to Momtaku's therapy session as we discuss The Depths of Despair as Tumblr’s @hamliet and podcast regular Puppet try to lift our spirits.
YouTube: https://youtu.be/_OuME2urcgQ MP3 Download: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/fjif24/YHBG-134.mp3 Episode feedback: https://www.youhearbiggirls.com/feedback
Timestamps
0:00:00 Introduction 0:00:52 Chapter impressions
Historia 0:06:35 I concede NOTHING! This was a FAKE PREGNANCY! 0:09:57 What women want: Luna puts Yams on blast 0:13:13 Hamliet explains it all 0:18:38 The mysteries nobody cares about anymore 0:20:04 The final guessing game - Who's in the final panel?
Rumbling 0:24:29 Black London Bridge is falling down 0:27:14 Where's Waldo and the Cliffside of Chaos 0:36:41 Has Eren won or do we need a recount? 0:40:46 Torii shrine gate: a beacon of hope? 0:45:44 Gone in the blimp of an eye 0:50:28 Ask from Shanto "Beast Titan: Fake or Real?"
The General's speech. 0:58:12 Luna hates the speech 0:1:06:58 Poll question: Is the world at fault or Eren Did Isayama humnaize Eren too much 0:1:12:50 The Moral of Story - Was genocide inevitable?
0:1:21:35 BREAK
1:22:11 Karina is the worst 1:33:57 Where are Zeke's grandparents? 1:38:16 The Alliance Arrives aka Reiner Helos Yes Baby Yes 1:40:04 Is Eren ok with killing his friends? Was this reiner's helos moment. That whole discussion happens between 1:38 and 1:45 is reiner helos stuff 1:46:44 will killing zeke do anything useful? 1:51:30 Armin's big words to Eren 1:55:10 Puppets prediction on how the battle goes 1:56:55 Poll: death predictions 2:05:50 2% til the ending? when does this series end? 2:09:22 Ask from Sofia Amundson "Will Connie or Jean get an impactful scene and who will kill Zeke" 2:16:42 Other twitter comments Paris, Rubygus, 2:20:36 Are we more excited for the anime or chapter 135? 2:30:02: Statue unveiling in Hito 2:33:43 QuickFire 2:40:41 Thank yous and goodbyes
LINKS THIS EPISODE Hamliet's blog: https://hamliet.tumblr.com/ Coffee's pics from the statue unveiling in Hita: https://twitter.com/attackonmomlife John Boyega's tweet about Onyankopon: https://twitter.com/JohnBoyega/status/1323945598924558336
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youhearbiggirls · 3 years
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YHBG ~ Choujin X Readthrough
While awaiting the reveal of the additions to Attack on Titan’s final chapter, the Big Girl's decide to read Choujin X, the latest work from Sui Ishida (Tokyo Ghoul).
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youhearbiggirls · 5 years
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The Chapter 123 podcast is coming up! 
This time it will just be your lovely two hosts, the Big Girls. We'll start recording at noon EST on the 12th so send in your questions (related to this chapter, snk news, or even our holiday) now!
Thanks as always for your support!
About the podcast: YHBG is a monthly Attack on Titan chapter discussion that is available on Youtube, Stitcher, Spotify and iTunes. If you enjoy our content and would like to help offset costs, please consider supporting us on Kofi or Patreon. If you’d like to be a guest, please visit our website.
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youhearbiggirls · 5 years
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YHBG ~ Chapter 122~ Featuring @reikukaja​, Errechan and Alooulla
With Luna and Momtaku on vacation, @reikukaja​ leads the chapter 122 discussion. She’s joined by two subreddit mods, Errechan and Alooulla. Listen along as they discuss slave Ymir, centipede Eren, and the walls finally falling down.
MP3 Download: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/i9xtep/122_final.mp3
Discussion Timestamps
0:01:50: Chapter impressions
0:03:42: The narrative style of Ymir’s story. Ymir’s slave mentality, OG Ymir’s titan form. How this new information fits with our previous knowledge
0:15:12: Why did Ymir stay with King Fritz?
0:19:00: Does this change titan transference?
0:25:50: Thoughts on the OG titan design
0:33:18: Support of Eren and chapter 112 discussion of Mikasa and Eren
0:42:09: Hopes for next volume. Historia pregnancy
0:43:44: Zeke being reminiscent of OG King Fritz
0:47:31: Who let the pigs out?
0:49:51: Centipede Eren gets ready to rumble the world... or not?
1:03:01: Who is going to die soon? 
1:06:02: Annie breaking free 
1:07:20: Chapter 123 predictions 
1:10:03 Historical aspect of the chapter - Eldian and Marlyan clothing
1:13:43 Polkka’s Quickfire Round
1:18:43 Al and Ely stage a podcast coup, goodbyes!
What about the Big Girls?
We recorded a live reaction to this month's chapter. Click here to listen to it (due to the audio not being in sync with the video, we don't recommend watching it). We'll be back next month, including stories of the big girls in the big apple!
About the podcast: YHBG is a monthly Attack on Titan chapter discussion that is available on Youtube, Stitcher, Spotify and iTunes. If you enjoy our content and would like to help offset costs, please consider supporting us on Kofi or Patreon. If you’d like to be a guest, please visit our website.
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youhearbiggirls · 5 years
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YHBG Chapter 126 Guest Announcement
For our chapter 126 discussion we’ve invited our friend Leslie to join us.  He’s a self described “democratic jaegerist” so we look forward to finding out exactly what that means. 
If you have any chapter 126 questions, or anything you’d like us to discuss, please get those to us before we record on February 11th.
Thanks as always for your support!
About this Podcast YHBG is a monthly Attack on Titan chapter discussion that is available on Youtube, Stitcher, Spotify and iTunes. If you enjoy our content and would like to help offset costs, please consider supporting us on Kofi or Patreon. If you’d like to be a guest, please visit our website.
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youhearbiggirls · 5 years
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YOU HEAR BIG GIRLS ~ ATTACK ON TITAN PODCAST
Chapter 119: “Brothers Older and Younger”
For our chapter 119 discussion we invited two of the admins from the SnK Wiki to join us. Listen along as Neetaku and Rune Lai discuss with us Chapter 119, “Brothers Older and Younger“
Chapter Discussion time stamps:
00:02:16 Chapter Impressions
00:05:06  Who should've died, Reiner or Porco?
00:08:13 importance of character deaths and why Eren is still alive
00:09:27 How the wiki is listing Eren's status?
00:14:30 Wiki Poll Results "How will it be revealed the Eren is still alive?"
00:17:42 Porco Galliard is the chapter MVP
00:26:54 Discussion of Porco's relationship with Reiner
00:33:07 Porco's memory inheritance
00:37:11 From Tumblr: Did Falco inherit the Jaw Titan Power?
00:43:03 Are the Jaw Titans always destined to sacrifice themselves?
00:46:54 Kingsgrave asked, "Would Reiner agree with Zeke's plan?"
00:51:24 Discussion of Colt and Falco
00:58:32 Reactions to Falco's titan form
01:05:28 Did Zeke care about Falco and Colt?
01:16:53 Neetaku's favorite Braun (and no it isn't Reiner or Gabi)
01:19:28 Gabi discussion
01:25:07 How the final exhibit might indicate a Reiner/Eren alliance
01:28:53 Ask from The Humble Servant, "Why do you think Gabi shot Eren? She learned from Pieck that the goal's to retake the FT otherwise the problem persists. Zeke's the one that turned Falco into Titan, killed Colt & betrayed everyone. Was this narrative brilliance on Isayama's part or does he want Gabi to be hated?"
01:32:01 Do you think Eren had hoped to touch Zeke before he titanized the wine victims? If Zeke catches Eren's head, what’s next?
01:37:02 Did Eren or Colt first say "Wait"? Discussion about the wiki's handling of dead characters and also Erwin vs Armin
01:45:46 Inconsistencies this chapter
01:47:45 Asks from @nykloon29, "What do you think about Eren‘s pants?" and @jhwalter17, “It’d be cool if you talked about the theory that eren already activated the founding titan as many believe it to be true”
01:54:22 Pixis, Nile, Floch and Yelena
News & QA
02:00:55 Final Battle Game, Final SnK season, Final Exhibition
02:07:08 Q&A with the Wiki Team
02:08:00  ask from @bummsich_‏ ,"I'd love to know more about the people behind this account, how many people are part of the team..."
02:16:10 ask from @ZakkYuriy,  "Will there be an anime on AoT: Before the Fall?"
02:18:30 ask from @zombiehhaunter, "Has the wiki team considered making the wiki more spoiler friendly?"
02:29:45 ask from @translateda, “Who are your favourite voice actors working on Attack on Titan? How much do you know about them?”
02:36:16 Polkka's Quickfire Round #4
Links in this episode
AOT Wiki: https://attackontitan.wikia.com
AOT Wiki Discord: http://discord.gg/attackontitan
AOT Wiki Twitter: https://twitter.com/aotwiki
AOT Wiki Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/attackontitanwiki/
AOT Wiki Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AttackOnTitanWiki/
YHBG Final Exhibition Livestream and photos: https://www.youhearbiggirls.com/snk-final-livestream/ 
@yaboylevi‘s thoughts about who said “wait”
Reiner vs Eren - SnK Final Exhibition
Romi Park talks about portraying Hange: https://tsuki-no-ura.tumblr.com/post/185745372769/
Moses Braun: https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Moses_Braun
The YHBG podcast is also available on Youtube, Stitcher, Spotify and iTunes. If you enjoy our content and would like to help offset costs, please consider supporting us on Kofi or Patreon.
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youhearbiggirls · 5 years
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Chapter 120: “A Fleeting Moment”
To celebrate our one year anniversary, we made the insane decision to invite back all of our previous guests! We had to record 4 groups in 5 sessions to fit everyone in. The final podcast is 4.5 hours in length. Timestamps are below so people can pick and choose what they’d like to listen to. Or download the mp3.
GROUP 1 SoulMadness , @renannmh, u/ichigosr5 and Polkka (u/Iamnormallylost)
3:54 General chapter impressions and discussion 19:21 Discussion about the PATHS Dimension, who has control of the Founding Titan power now and why the passage of time is different in that realm 38:42 Polkka’s "Super Ultra Mega" Fifth Quickfire round
GROUP 2  Rune Lai, @ladymoe6, LSJ, and Neetaku
48:23 General chapter impressions and discussion 51:22 Do we trust what Zeke is telling us about Ymir? Is it even Ymir or is it "Krista". Neet's first rant about how time travelling Eren did not appear in season one (1:17:13 ) Is this trip through memory lane impacting the past and future. Did Eren plant memories in Kruger's mind? Lots of Moses love and Reiner talk :) 1:38:11 Group 2 Quickfire
GROUP 3 u/Qrowin-Shitposts , /u/_puppet_ , @reikukaja and u/alooulla 
1:52:22 General chapter impressions and discussion 1:56:25 Discussion of the opening pages, the head catch, the frozen battle and memory shatter. What is the best in-story explanation for the Caste on Titan easter egg? Ask from The Humble Servant on Twitter: Which Memory Shatter Panel is your personal favorite or most liked? 2:33:25 Group 3 Quickfire
GROUP 4 @attackonmomlife, KennyH and u/DarthMewtwo 
2:39:45  General chapter impressions and discussion 2:42:36 Discussion of Zeke and Eren’s relationship and the Bruh Bruh moments. What were your feelings about Grisha before this chapter? Did this chapter change your feelings? Will Zeke seeing that Grisha transformed change anything? Is Eren coming out of this alive? - Ask Kingsgrave on Twitter: Is Zeke Redeemable - Ask from Mosab from Twitter: Eren is bezt mc ever what you think 3:25:32 Group 4 Quickfire
NEWS with @attackonmomlife 3:32:48 Discussion about second half of the SNK Final Manga Event, what changed, what didn't. News about the accident at the factory that produced the large scale Titan Reiner and Eren Figurama
QA with Mom and Luna
3:50:36 Spicy asks from The Humble Servant about who our favorite and least favorite guests are, favorite and least favorite chapter discussions and what are some pet peeves you have of your co host?
4:13:37 Ask from Pollka: Ten chapters ago where did you see the story heading and how right or wrong where you?
4:17:28 What's your favourite crack theory or head canon?
4:18:58 Ask from Kingsgrave: Congrats on the year of podcasts, always the highlight of my month. Do y'all have plans for a podcast after Attack on Titan's manga and anime is over?
4:22:15 Podcast conclusion and thanks
About the Podcast The YHBG podcast is also available on Youtube, Stitcher, Spotify and iTunes. If you enjoy our content and would like to help offset costs, please consider supporting us on Kofi or Patreon.
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momtaku · 6 years
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 I wasn’t able to join the podcast this month but I’m editing it. I had to stop for a moment to share something. The crew is discussing whether or not Levi will be able to fight again.  Puppet just proposed the theory that Levi would be unable to fight but would instead offer himself as bait so Connie could kill Zeke, thus fulfilling both promises at once and  I am just ...
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I envision a blind and broken Levi taking his final stand just like Ian and Mitabe did in the battle of Trost. Back then they knew they are going to die but saw hope in the form of Eren carrying the boulder to seal the hole in Wall Rose. Their actions secured mankind’s first victory against the titan, and they died knowing their sacrifice wasn’t in vain.
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I see a possible parallel. I’m in a lot of pain. I had to share the suffering.
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