#yes this is about kotlc

[the-way-astray]

it should be a crime for writers/creators to not make a crazy wall for their story that connects pictures representing the characters and plot points together with an obscene amount of yarn.

[strawberry-muffin-crisis]

When you only like a Fandom because of its fics but can't tolerate it otherwise

@crymeariveronceagain :3

[lucyshypemaster]

me after getting out of a dead fandom and entering a new one that's actually active

[myfairkatiecat]

Oh nothing I’m fine, just thinking about how Sophie’s self-doubt (Fitz could never like me, I’m not the kind of girl Fitz would ever be with, Fitz wouldn’t wait for me) turned into doubting Fitz once they were in their relationship (Fitz will care that I’m unmatchable, even if he says he doesn’t he’ll care, Fitz won’t want to wait around for me to figure out who my parents are, Fitz won’t want to be with someone who could cause a scandal…)

What started about anxiety about herself and her crush turned into anxiety about their relationship no matter how many times Fitz proves that he was willing to stay, go at her pace, and work it out. And I think that’s part of why Sophitz fell apart in the end.

[doodle-do-wop]

Stina's biggest weakness on Team V is her commitment to the bit

Sophie would lie and say Stina is her sister for whatever reason and Stina would commit to the bit with her entire soul. Yeah of course they're sisters can't you tell, they look alike🤨🤨? They literally share a birthday what do you mean they're not sisters???? Sophie's short because Stina sat on her in the womb, duh, moron🙄

Or like

Biana would say they have to break into a government building and Stina will object until the very end but the second they have to do any work Stina already has blueprints, guard schedules and routes, the janitor is passed out(that was Dex's idea Stina suggested throwing them off a bridge so she wouldn't have to deal with them)

(Also she bullies Wylie but that's another issue entirely)

[lotusishere]

Now why am I watching miraculous ladybug and thought about how Adrien/Chat Noir reminds me of Keefe Sencen??? HELLLO? Someone needs to save me.

[valewritessss]

The best part of reading books when I was younger was not knowing there was a fandom for it and getting to form my completely own opinions and having no one but myself to fuel my imagination

[kale-of-the-forbidden-cities]

i don't think the Vacker parents are good. I don't think they're necessarily the worst, either. They're a very shade of grey.

[ultralazycreatorfan]

Watching keepblr rediscover things on a loop such as the name meanings, theories, and the block button has really got me out here feeling old as hell

[bookwyrminspiration]

real quick because the fandom's experiencing some growing pains--reminder to be nice to new fans! yes they'll have different dynamics, energies, and ways of doing things, but that's not a bad thing

we are all here to enjoy ourselves, so let them enjoy themselves. we were all new at one point. if its harmless, who cares! block if its that much of a problem/nuisance

we do not need a fandom generational divide, please and thanks <3

(and to new fans: hi! sometimes we have genuine points about etiquette like spam and tagging conventions to make the space better for everyone, but otherwise! just have fun!)

[icantrememberwhoiwaslastdecember]

why do the ships i not like have good fanart/fics? 😔

[the-way-astray]

let’s be super clear: there is zero canon evidence that alden ever pressured or neglected any of his children. zero. if you want to make him that way for fic or fanon purposes, fine. you do you. but the second you try to use that in a serious anti alden argument, you lose credibility

[anonymous-kotlc-thoughts]

maybe the kotlc fandom is really just two rats and taylor swift in a trenchcoat

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[lucyshypemaster]

keefe was actually insane for this

[myfairkatiecat]

The misunderstanding of how Sophie "didn't realize her feelings for Keefe" in this fandom is wild tbh.

It's not that she had no choice in what she was feeling. It's that she had a crush on Fitz basically from the beginning--one based mostly on looks at first--that slowly developed into more as their relationship became closer. But Sophie had already acknowledged that she had a crush on him from basically the day they met.

That wasn't her first thought when she met Keefe. She noticed he was attractive, sure, but she was used to the suspicious way everyone looked like the epitome of human beauty standards by now. So she didn't view all of her interactions with Keefe through the same lens through which she viewed her interactions with Fitz.

She developed very close relationships with both boys, even just as friends. It's clear from Sophie's actions and behavior around Keefe that she cares about him, is comfortable with him, and their relationship truly is stronger than a lot of her other friendships. Even just as a friendship.

She also devloped a very close friendship with Fitz. It's clear that they trust each other a lot, especially in the earlier books, and their cognate bond only strengthened that. There was clearly something special about their friendship as well. But Sophie saw all of the moments through the lens of her crush.

Love is a choice, but feelings can creep up on you. They really can. If they couldn't, maybe I'd be able to stop having a stupid crush on one of my gay best friends, cause that's seriously going nowhere. Sophie developed feelings for Keefe slowly, while she also had feelings for Fitz. That's part of what was so complicated.

So in Lodestar, when Keefe grabs her hand and feels her "heart emotions," it's not that he's feeling her real emotions, and her head is all filled with Fitz but all of that is just superficial emotions. What's really happening is that he's feeling from her the emotions she has yet to name. When Sophie enhances him, Keefe doesn't need Sophie to acknowledge to herself what the feelings are in order for him to know them.

Are you guys all seriously telling me you've never had a crush on someone that you told yourself wasn't a crush very convincingly for a long time, only to eventually realize that it was definitely a crush for a lot of that tme? Because... that's a normal thing that happens sometimes.

It's not that Fitz was in her head and Keefe was in her heart. Both of them were probably in her heart, because she'd developed close relationships with both of them and began to have romantic feelings for them both. But she hadn't thought about her feelings for Keefe, whereas she spent a lot of time thinking about her feelings for Fitz. That's why Keefe could only tell her feelings for him when he could feel her heart emotions.

She also just... began to lose some of her feelings for Fitz around Legacy, and her feelings for Keefe definitely grew. It doesn't mean her feelings for Fitz were never real, but I can't say I'm surprised that a fifteen-year-old girl ended up changing her mind about what she wanted.

Anyway, I'm not saying it's a plot line you have to like, but I think a lot of people, including a lot of sokeefe shippers, think that the idea was "Fitz was in Sophie's head (she THOUGHT she liked him) but Keefe was in her heart (she ACTUALLY liked him and didn't even realize it!)" and that's just. Not even what happened. That's not the point of the whole head/heart emotions thing at all.

[necromycologist]

nobody asked me to but expanding on the secret fintan dex parallels because I CAN!! its about the desire to make something unforgettable. its about trying to make your way in a society that hates you and hating it back so so much. and wanting it to change but at the same time desperately just wanting to be a part of it and gain its respect. to prove the powerful wrong but to prove it wrong SO THAT you might be allowed inside their world. its about doing something just because you can. its about the horrific consequences of that action. fintan lost friends to everblaze even the ones (bronte..) that survived. we KNOW that haunts him. and sophie was dex's first friend and he put her through torture (im never shutting up about the ability restrictor <3). does THAT still haunt him?? i think so ! its about getting mad and how easy it is. its about coming back from the dead and what it does to you. they cried over your grave and you celebrated on top of mine isn't that another injustice. do you think they would have cried more if you had a different family. dex has been burned before but he keeps coming back to fight again. tinker is afraid of fire but i dont know if dex is. he should get to let that out somewhere. do you guys get it.