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TODA MARIKO and OCHIBA-NO-KATA SHŌGUN | 1.09 Crimson Sky
#shōgun#shogun#shogun spoilers#shogunedit#shōgunedit#perioddramaedit#tvedit#adaptationsdaily#ladiesofcinema#dailyflicks#toda mariko#ochiba no kata#tuserhan#tuserpris#usersavana#userhann#userhella#arthurpendragonns#tusereliza#*mine#yeah no i can't stop thinking about them#this is the last set of them i post though... at least for now <3
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Madi actually not procrastinate on stuff challenge- see I had plans today, but then those got cancelled and like in any good neurodivergent fashion I'm like "Well shit what do I do now?" and well! That answer is this silly meme for my Wedding planner AU. Yes Jimmy and Grian are parasites on Joel's Netflix account- No he's not gonna kick them off. That's not what Family is about.
I swear one of these days I need to like do proper ref sheets for people in my AU just DFKVNFKBN GOD OKAY- I'll stop rambling but just know I have a lot of thoughts in my brain you guys are gonna get fed next year trust-
Close ups and the post that spurred this on are down below after the keep reading! just for efficiency and all that jazz!
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The Post that inspired this:
#WAaDW AU :>#Madi's Art :>#joel smallishbeans#smallishbeans#jimmy solidarity#solidaritygaming#grian#grian fanart#grian mc#lizzie ldshadowlady#ldshadowlady#solidarity gaming#jimmy solidarity fanart#ldshadowlady fanart#smallishbeans fanart#trafficblr#traffic smp#traffic series#life smp#life series#fanart#fanartist#mcyt fanart#mcyt#I JUST HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT MY AU AND I CAN'T SAY SHIT TO THE PUBLIC MAN I JUST HAVE TO BOUNCE OFF RU AND JAY AND SPIN SO FAST#IT'S ALL PLOTTED OUT AND EVERYTHING MAN I'M JUST WAITING TIL 2025 TO WRITE IT CAUSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA#I even managed to sneak a branzy and Clown mention in it and like I can't wait for Hatt to see that cause that's Pearl's whole sub plot AND#I need to stop I NEED TO STOP AND I WILL SHUT UP NOW BUT YEAH GUYS I'M EXCITED OKAY OKAY#also this is my second time drawing Joel & Lizzie and I think I did pretty well for them
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to the people saying jinx could never reciprocate ekko's love in the main timeline because of everything she's been going through... i need you to examine your unconscious biases against mentally ill characters
#i also think s2's pacing issues haven't helped#like we don't know how much time has passed between when ekko saves jinx from offing herself and the final battle#and apparently it wasn't a one day thing because of the jinx fixes everything mini game#there's A LOT we didn't get to see#and that bothers me because then we get takes like this#and it's like... no#just because a character has mental health issues doesn't mean they aren't capable of love#or capable of “reciprocating”#au powder also deals with a lot of shit#she just has a community by her side that supports her#which is what jinx has lacked due to silco's isolation and the trauma she's suffered in the main timeline#and we actually get to see in the show how jinx improves the more she creates meaningful bonds with people and reaches out#SO YEAH#timebomb#arcane#timebomb rambles#i can't stop thinking about them
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Out of the 3 Science Gang members as they are now, who would be the best with kids? I have a feeling its not Wingdings-
I wanna see em all on a “bring-your-child-to-work day” at the core HEHDH
Sans would be the best definitely
He might be a little lazy, but he's very caring and responsible even if he likes to pretend he isn't lmao
Plus! He's got dad humor, he would get along great with kids!
#And like#yeah#I mean...#it's sans#especially if we're talking about them as they are now!#I still think sans in undertale would be more capable but he's definitely in a worse mental state at that point#trying to care less...#but he can't stop caring even if he pretends to#he's fine rn#Wingdings and Alphys wouldn't do so great lmao
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I dreamt about you nearly every night this week How many secrets can you keep?
#cryinggggg#I CAN'T STOP THINKING#about them#chris is daddying so hard right now#he needs a baby seb ok#or steve needs his baby buck#I don't care#just... them together#yeah#stucky#evanstan#chris evans#sebastian stan#minnie talks
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anyone interested in talking about the iconic 2000's middle-grade-bordering-on-ya book series gallagher girls??
#okay incoming rant about this series#i read the first book when i was 10 or 11 and i was absolutely obssessed with it. i read it so many times i had the entire story memorized#the issue was that i could not find the rest of the series anywhere. it was either sold out or out of stock#and then i found out that only the first 3 books had been translated into my first language so at that point i kinda gave up on them#anyway#flashforward to a couple of weeks ago#i was re organizing my bookshelf and on the back i found LYKY (is this how y'all are abreviating it??)#and remembred how much i loved it#and since i'm now fluent in english and was stuck at home recovering from a surgery i decided to download the entire series and read it#to find out what the fuck happened afterwards#long story short i read all six books in 4 or 5 days#and i haven't stopped thinking about them since#it's actually so funny how little information we have in the first book#i went all of these years thinking it was mostly a silly series about a boarding school for spies when actually SO MUCH happens afterwards#i can't believe i went all of these years unaware of zach goode's existence#truly character of all time#but also i can't stop thinking about how interesting it would have been if zach had come to hate the circle and his mom during the series#rather than before#make it a true enemies to lovers#and have us witness that portion of his character developement in real time instead of being told about it#like him slowly realizing through cammie and his time at gallagher that maybe what they were doing is wrong#i think it would have been very interesting to read#although let's be real it took me until halfway through book four to trust him and he was fully one of the good guys so..#but yeah i have a lot more to say but these tags are long enough#gallagher girls#okay i just want to add another funny anecdote about my experience with this series#my copy of LYKY has an age warning in the back recomending that readers should be above 13 yo to read it#and i distinctly remember finishing it and thinking the warning was kind of dumb bcs besides a few mentions of death and other heavier topi#nothing really happened#and now i realize it was a warning for the rest of the series not just the first book because jesus fucking chirst everything after
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there is not enough femslash in batcest circles. the girls deserve to be just as weird about each other as the boys are. if BruDick gets to be weird father/son/brothers/lovers/friends/rivals/soulmates then it is only fair that Babs/Cass get to be mother/daughter/sisters/lovers too. Something about that deep intrinsic but undefinable love that is born out of trauma, especially if you consider Cass not knowing what healthy love looks like in the first place. i think it's fun and deserves just as much fandom content.
besides that, you can get even more niche with rarepairs like Helena/Steph. Huntress/Spoiler: Blunt Trauma is already a fantastic comic and even though it's their only real canon interaction it has so much potential. very comparable to TimJay in how Helena tries to get Steph to understand her morals and the corruption you could play with it.
batman: huntress/spoiler: blunt trauma (1998)
that comic also highlights on how both Steph and Helena are outcasts of the Batfamily and don't have the approval of Bruce to be doing what they do in "his city". I think there's so much Potential in Helena taking Steph under her wing because Bruce won't let her in and it becomes a weird codependent toxic sapphic mess. I think the protectiveness Helena feels over Steph from the get-go is so clear and the way she wants to look out for Steph, wants to make sure Steph understands the real world? I love them. Helena should be allowed to steal Steph, actually. I think it'd be fun.
there are a lot of other possibilities too like Babs/Steph or even getting weird with Helena Bertinelli/Helena Wayne and the existential question of "is it selfcest or not." But these two specifically live in my head rent-free, especially Helena/Steph and one day I'll convince everyone else to ship it too.
#batcest#necrotic festerings#how do i tag ships that are almost non-existent#helena bertinelli x stephanie brown#cassandra cain x barbara gordon#as resident huntress fan my answer to the is helena w/helena b selfcest depends entirely on which version of helena wayne you're using.#pre-crisis!helena wayne/pre-flashpoint!helena bertinelli? yes i agrue is selfcest adjacent at least#because helena bertinelli was meant to be an adaptation of helena wayne#if it's jsa (2022)!helena wayne then it's *not* selfcest because they co-exist in the same universe#and according to current lore helena wayne was named after bertinelli and took the name huntress in her honor#which is a *choice* for sure but that's a different post#i still think shipping them is super fun in a “don't meet your heroes” sort of way with helena wayne time travelling#and then potentially running into bertinelli and realizing she's not what wayne thought she was and it being weird toxic shit#as for new-52 helena wayne. i do not acknowledge her and will not comment.#*god* I hate new-52 huntress.#(imo it would be selfcest tho bc they tried to make helena wayne a bertinelli clone. so. there's that.)#i'm going to write a helena/steph fic some day and none of you bitches can stop me#yeah yeah we have stephcass but y'all have sanitized the fuck out of that to convince yourselves it's not batcest and that made it boring.#and helena/babs is neat and all but i prefer helena/zinda when it comes to BoP ships#i should've included panels for cass/babs but it's been a while since i read batgirl (2000) so none immediately came to mind#i have a *lot* more helena/steph thoughts but no braincell to word them. know i will talk about them again.#they got one whole comic and now i won't let them go#also cass/helena is fun for combating morals and the complicated batgirl mantle#cass wears the batgirl suit *helena* made y'all think i can't make that romantic bc i can and will#if we have robin pile then give me batgirl pile#babs/helena/steph/cass hell throw in bette too.
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I think veilguard might be the one game with an unlimited sprint button that I've nevertheless spent the most time gently jogging and walking through. just to like... look at things. hang out. vibe. the environments in this game are so fucking good
#most games I'm extremely 'yeah yeah get me through here quickly or I'll die' about but this game... could simply vibe near-indefinitely#I gaze at paintings (treviso my beloved). npcs. little tableaus of set tables.#contraptions. and all sorts of things. just me and my little buddies. in the world of thedas. and this makes me happy.#I love that in weisshaupt you can see that the attack began when everyone was sitting down for dinner or some sort of late meal#and that they have dedicated places for where they process the dye that makes the characteristic warden blue#that they clearly have a very specific tradition of decoration there.#don't get me started on the grand necropolis or I won't be able to stop fjsdkh#dragon age#dragon age: the veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard spoilers#dragon age spoilers#in the tags. I mean if you somehow haven't found out we go to weisshaupt and have stuck by your spoiler free zone that hard#far be it for me to be the person to ruin that for you lmao#y'know... inquisition landscapes/outfit detailling etc. are also beautiful but I've always found them a bit hard to parse#there's So much going on with details and textures in a way my brain can't quite puzzle together into something cohesive#(I think it might also be down to the slightly more zoomed out perspective the camera forces you to have in that game#I've seen some more close in/over the shoulder camera mods and early builds and that works better for me)#but in veilguard they've hit the balance perfectly for me I understand what I'm looking at AND it's beautiful#guess another decade of experience with frostbite did make for that advantage at least haha
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To be honest I don't really want mutuals who instantly assume I commented in bad faith to act "condescending" when I was nothing but light-hearted in disagreeing about a point in the post about one of the characters and agreed with everything else. 🤔 Especially not when I apparently pissed them off so much it made them post TWO (passive-aggressive) posts on the topic of disagreement afterwards instead of.... actual discussion? At least if I assume someone is being mean on purpose I ask them about it
#/vent#I softblocked them tbh#I mean apparently they think ill of me and thing I disagreed on is something they're passionate about#so I probably stepped on a landmine anyway and from my experience these can't be fixed#also it strongly reminded me of subparzero#they got hostile upon assuming I commented in bad faith for literally no reason#and then said I baited them for conflict over disagreeing at one djura point#and told me to go hang out with other neurodivergent folks instead#likewise entirely ignoring obvious signs of support and otherwise loving the post#so yeah having this bad memory resurface just. dealt massive mental damage.#I just don't now what's in such people's heads#I said I should stop vagueblogging about negative interactions lol#but honestly this made my blood pressure jump super high#needed almost an hour to calm down and type this#mostly because I'd think a *mutual* would not assume I am just here to trash on them#especially when there was no reason to!!!#at this rate I don't even actually want to know what in my comment was 'condescending'#either language barrier or autistic barrier the answer is always the same#something I physically can't fix so its whatever
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love that Thad interprets inertia to mean continuing at all costs and Three takes it to mean stagnancy, bc theyre both right!! objects in motion saty in motion objects at rest stay at rest just like newton said
exactly yeah! because i knew i wanted Thad to reclaim the name for himself (with the whole "it means what i say it means" mantra) it needed to mean more to him than just a representation of Thawne Legacy Kill The Allens etc.
a reoccurring thing in Frequency that i liked to lean into was this idea of Good Inertia and Bad Impulses (bc Bart and Thad as narrative foils continues to rotate in my brain forever). i think Bart's solo does a cool exploration of both good and bad impulses throughout the run, it's kind of the central conflict of the whole thing, but it's usually in regards to Bart either unwittingly getting himself into trouble or accidentally solving problems by just leaping into everything without thinking twice. but the concept of inertia is pretty exclusively portrayed as negative. which is fair, the phrase "coasting on inertia" is in the lexicon for a reason. but i think it deserved a fair shot - the concept of continuing in spite of everything can actually be a really good instinct when you're in a bad situation. keeping up that momentum, moving forward no matter what, there's definitely something inspirational there that appeals to me.
and an aspect of impulses that didnt get as much spotlight in Bart's solo was the kinds of impulses that recoil at the thought of unpleasantness. the impulse to hide from responsibility, the impulse to distract from pain, to avoid discomfort, etc. (big part of that is because in Bart's solo, most of the worst moments of his life hadn't happened to him yet) so i wanted to explore it a little in Frequency
anyway yeah, Bad Impulses and Good Inertia. which was kinda in conversation with Bart and Thad's dispositions, and how they run counter to typical hero/villain narratives. (Bart doesn't really get people, goes his own way, has pretty emotionally selfish and sometimes violent tendencies when he's pissed off. Thad's much more of a people person, lives for praise and pleasing others, seems to forget to do violence when he's supposed to i.e. that time he put Bart in VR jail even though Bart was completely incapacitated and by Thawne logic Thad should've just killed him. it just... doesn't occur to him as a thing he should do lmao)
#asks#anonymous#not to belabour the point but yeah i tried to stay true to their core kinda mechanics and how they respond to people#i see bart and thad as mirrors in the low-empathy/high-empathy departments#where bart doesn't really relate to people most of the time - although he can guess at what they're feeling and try to respond accordingly#drawing on what he learned from max and helen and his friends#still caring deeply for people but never seeing himself reflected in them#and then on the flipside there's thad who cant seem to stop himself from projecting on everyone and getting caught up in their feelings#not only in his hyperawareness of how people see him and subsequent stage-fright as a result#but also when he tries to steal jo's truck and literally can't because she told him she had a daughter and he doesn't want her to get fired#and when he drops his possessiveness over CRAYDL the literal instant he sees that Nathaniel cares about them as much as he does#or when he sees Jude at his lowest and can't stop himself from thinking ''been there''#basically bart is an unbothered king and thad finds himself unwillingly empathizing with anyone who shows him a shred of vulnerability#an extremely interesting dynamic for a “heroic/villainous” pair#frequency fic
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Sometimes I try to write down thoughts about this campaign but I admittedly have not been paying enough attention to feel confident in my character analysis so I write an incoherent text post and then delete it because I don't know if I'm actually making the correct judgments.
#cr spoilers#in the tags#so i'm going to rant in here instead if you keep reading past this you can't get mad at me#anyway i want to talk about ashton#and how they would have been absolutely intolerable in c1 or c2#where every character was invested in saving the world#for one reason or another#and c3 is just like#orym is the only one talking sense and everyone else is just like 'well maybe?'#but matt also said something about being ready for exandria to shift drastically based on their chocie#and if matt weren't ready for exandria to change ashton would be harder to watch than they are now#idk taliesin does quite often play around with hypocrisy with his characters so i'm not really surprised#by ashton claiming to stand up for the little person and then going and being willing to blow up their entire world#like they're not actually thinking about the 'little person'#they're thinking about themselves and that's really it#but yeah i do keep waiting for someone to say something that gives ashton that realization#that they can't use their trauma as an excuse to blow up everyone else's lives#idk i'm running out of steam#it's interesting to watch taliesin play around with this#but i've got to say that if they don't make a fucking choice about what they're actually going to do#idk i'm just ready for them ALL to stop waffling#okay now i'm done#i still have a lot of thoughts but i'd have to rewatch the whole campaign to feel confident in my talking points#and that's not going to happen lol
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Having to block everyone who has "wincest dni" in their bio not because I ship wincest (because I have come to the conclusion that I actually don't) but because I do think it'd be fun to poke around at the very real weirdness of their relationship that I've noticed in the show so far. And I'm 99% sure that my poking around will get seen as shipping.
#andiv3r rambles#incest mention#stupid because i Don't ship them. i dont want them to kiss or whatever i just think they're Weird and would like to acknowledge that#and maybe play around with it . and try to figure out what the fuck is going on.#but nobody in any fandom wants to play anymorree#like im sorry they're weird. im sorry they got repeatedly assumed to be a couple just within the first and second season#and then compared to bonnie and clyde. and then !#. “an old married couple.”#and also there was the “just brothers” comment which i've spent so long ranting about that i'm sure all my friends are sick of hearing about#how what i'm sure was some writer's intention of doubling down on the “look they're SO not having weird gay incestuous feelings for one#another“#MAJORLY backfired and instead implied that the incest was more of a possibility. whereas just about ANY other phrasing wouldn't have.#i dunno. i dunno! once again i don't ship them . but i do think they're weird about one another. codependent maybe? dean specifically says#that he couldn't continue living if sam dies. they both try to sell their own souls to keep the other one alive#which again!! doesnt imply incest necessarily!! but it does imply Weirdness! they ARE weird!#probably a lot to do with their upbringing. but like. they are Weird. they behave strangely and act like they Need one another#which is Not normal for a sibling bond 👍#but yeah . yeah i'm rambling now. it's whatever.#tl;dr i don't ship them but their relationship is Canonically Weird And Abnormal and i think it's unfair to ask me to ignore that#and just go “haha they're so Brother. they're so Regular Normal Sibling.” because they're Not#they have that sibling bond that makes me go “aha#these are clearly brothers“#but then they say and do shit that makes me just want to grab the nearest person and scream ARE YOU SEEING THIS SHIT#WHAT DO YOU MEAN “she knows your weakness. it's me” STOP SAYING THINGS LIKE THAT TO YOUR BROTHER. THAT'S NOT NORMAL!!!!#. ahem. anyway. yeah. sorry#i can't wait till i get to later seasons and castiel shows up because i've heard im going to Like him#and also because Gay People#but for now i'm rotating sam and dean around in my mind in a microwave and Wishing i could put them in therapy together#because they Need to learn how to not be so strange and odd about one another in an unhealthy way
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ugh nauseating the way eiji looks at ash when he's pouting about their little lover's quarrel
some serious faggotry happening in the new york public library
#eiji's like hey... babe please stop killing people. i don't think you're that kind of person and ash is like yeah i AM etc etc and then when#they make up as if they Weren't Arguing About Murder. can't stay mad at you type shit but it's about ash's whole killing out of guilt over#shorter thing... oghhh somebody's doubling downnnn somebody's getting bloodier because they're scared of losing people oooohhhh#and eiji's like psh he's so cute when he's pouting though //>w<//#they're silly. something's wrong with them both#eiji's a normal boy my ass he is NOT he's a freak he's like dan cain to me#although i would not say ash is particularly herbert-esque (herbert west-esque? hm. whatever)#anyway#banana fish#asheiji
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i want so badly to write a fic where renzou finally opens up to koneko and ryuuji about how shitty his childhood was and how their rose-coloured glasses of the past make it impossible for him to ever talk about his feelings and that's why he's never said anything before but UNFORTUNATELY the boy is a compulsive liar who would rather die than lose control over the narrative he's created for himself since childhood so fuck it, shitty contrived situation where he's back into a corner and given no choice
#alas even backed into a corner i think he'd keep lying through his teeth. even cursed to tell the truth he'd weave his way around it#it doesn't matter how self-aware he is about his deficits#they're the only thing he has control over in his life and he'll cling to it until he's dead and even then he'll prolly still won't stop#i love him. he's a mess#if anything it's probably harder for him to be open with them because of how close they are to his family#and how normalized his upbringing was to them. like yeah the shima family is just like That and It's Fine#but it's not fine. not for renzou anyway. but they can't see that because he is a Liar and everyone else is Okay#if it were anyone else they'd say your family shouldn't treat you that way#but for renzou this is how it's always been. so why would they ever think it should be any other way#happy talks blue exorcist#renzou shima#i am. throwing him at walls
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I will never make this because it would be for an audience of one (me) but ever since reading "If we Were Villains" (story about serious drama kids in college who perform shakespeare and deal with a murder) I have been entertaining the thought of a crack fic crossover with High School Musical The Musical The Series where the staff decides they will no longer put on shakespeare after the tragic accident that happened at Thanksgiving, because Shakespeare plays would only increase the tension and drama. So they hire Ms. Jen who decides their spring play will actually be High School Musical (which exists in the 90s in this universe) and it ruins the vibe so much that everyone gives up on being dark and mysterious because they're universally pissed at Ms Jen for making them learn choreoraphed basketball dancing.
#if we were villains is actually genuinely good and has actual literary worth and pulls from shakespeare in an intelligent meaningful way#but unfortunately all i can do is comedy so this is the only fan content i have to offer :(#THE THING IS iwwv is just hsmtmts if it hsmtmts was good and also they committed crimes#they utilize the same parallel of casting choices with real life drama which I love#umm so casting: Meredith would be Sharpay Obvi. I think it would be really funny if James was cast as Ryan bc they hate eachother and would#have to pretend to be siblings working together. And I think ashley tisdale and Lucas Gabreel actually didn't get along when filming#also i love the thought of Ms Jen looking at James and going “i know what you are”#HOWEVER it would be more interesting if james was Chad to Oliver's Troy (which is really just reversing their Romeo and Juliet moment)#bc chad is like nooo don't do theater... stick with me and do basketball... but it would be Coded Subtextually#Unfortunately Wren would be typecast as Gabriella and I don't think that would cause drama bc I don't believe James actually liked her!#I think it was comp het bc she was very sweet and nonthreatening as opposed to Meredith's big flirting energy so she would be a “safe” crus#lets lean into that actually. this gives Wren a chance to have a personality (bc I enjoy this book but it is not good at fleshing out women#So oliver and Wren spend more time together and kind of talk about James a little and Wren is like yeah James is very sweet#and I like him but it feels so hard to get him to feel comfortable with me... i guess he's just closed off and doesn't talk much#we also get to see more of her personality and interests maybe she's like I relate to gabriella because I also like to Read :) feminism#and oliver is like Hmm That Is Not My Experience With Him perhaps our bond is deeper and James does like me Hm#And then Meredith can flirt with him as Sharpay and James gets pissed and in character gets very intense about how Troy can't join THEATER#that's why he's upset and sad bc sharpay represents theater and only that reason and nothing else and he isn't in love with oliver At All#Alexander can be Ryan now since James is Chad (and he's also Gay) and Filippa can be Kenzie bc they're both queer coded#Anyway at rehearsal one day Meredith and James and Oliver are having their fighting over troy moment and then Meredith stops and is like#wait guys. This musical is so freaking stupid. why are we even doing this#and their mutual frustration at their art being turned into a farce is enough to bond them together and they're like#we need to focus on our REAL enemy: ms Jen#and then they hatch a scheme and it's probably like. They dump a bucket of fake blood on her at opening night a la carrie#and then put on their own rebellious production... it still has to be a musical because i like musicals#families with children are in the audience and they're like OK FOLKS! HERE'S ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!#if we were villains#iwwv#hsmtmts#high school musical the musical the series
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I don't want to bother you while you're in your art challenge, take your time to answer! I just loved your analysis and opinion of Branchus, and i saw in the post you said we could ask you for others Apollo's lovers... I want to know (they're not lovers, they're grandfather and grandmother lol, but i would like to see your thoughts) of Koios and Phoebe 👀 Not in relationship with Apollo, just your opinion of them...
We don't know so much about Koios, we know a bit more about Phoebe because of her tie to Delphi and the Oracle.
Oh, how sweet! Thank you so much for the consideration and hey, no worries at all on asking about his grandparents rather than a lover, I'm always ready to ramble about Apollo's genealogical line since I find it extremely interesting!
Since information on a lot of the older Titans in terms of how they were worshipped and seen is scarce (Phoebe does have mentions in her mantic right but very little is mentioned in reference to Koios or her daughters apart from establishing genealogy and Koios himself seems to have been more of an abstract establishment, the way a lot of Hesiod's old gods were) I won't go out of my way to quote or base my opinions here in any literature that I've been exposed to, so just keep in mind that what I'm going to say is very much my own opinions mixed with things I understand and very influenced by my own love of familial and romantic parallels in god-pairs being symbolic of various natural and abstract relationships!
I see Koios and Phoebe, like a lot of the older Titan pairs, as abstractions of the original pair of Gaia and Uranus. Power often originates with and is exerted by women in these older pairs while glory is what is passed on, and consequently fought over, by the men - in Gaia and Uranus' case, it is Gaia who is older and it is from Gaia that Uranus is born. Uranus is her match but is also her subservient and so when Uranus is unable to love his children and seeks their destruction, it's Gaia who bestows the power and means by which to silence him. This 'equal but subservient' dynamic is definitely alive and well with Koios and Phoebe and I even think they mirror their parents from a symbolic standpoint as well.
Koios and Phoebe are the knowledge duo. They represent the two sources of knowledge/wisdom in the old world - that of heavenly (male) knowledge which pertains to the nature of the physical world and its realities and earthly (female) knowledge which pertains to the nature of intangible and unobservable reality such as time and space. I like having them mirror each other; what with them both being associated with their respective world axes (Koios as the heavenly axis if you syncretise him with the Roman Polos, Phoebe as the earthly axis if you take Delphi as the centerpoint of the world), having serpent symbolism (Koios with the hundred-headed star-serpent Drakon who guards the Hesperides which is sometimes said to be located in the land of the Hyperboreans and Phoebe with Python who guards the fount of knowledge at Delphi) and splitting their essence equally across their descendants (Their children and grandchildren perfectly embody one half of their partnership - Asteria with her heavenly magic and night-prophecies and Leto with her earthly power and wisdom and their grandchildren following likewise; Hecate who works beneath her grandfather's skies and has her grandmother's wisdom but who has chosen to reside neither in the sky nor on the earth, Artemis who could not be more of a daughter of the soil and Apollo who has his place among the brightest of stars).
It all leads back to that really fun dichotomy of equal but subservient honestly! Knowledge (and wisdom/intelligence) in general in Greek myths are female in nature so already that kind of puts Koios in an interesting position as a direct male descendent of Gaia and Uranus who didn't represent some physical, tangible element (in contrast his brothers all had some level of physicality to them - Oceanus the oceans, Cronus the harvest, Crius the winds, Hyperion the light, so on and so forth) but there's also that element of Koios' glory also being female! After all, his only male descendent is two generations removed and what should be his seat of power - Hyperborea - became Leto's the moment she was born there.
In this way, I admittedly find that a lot of comfort in Koios and Phoebe's partnership. There's a lot of respect both ways between them with Koios' respect and regard of Phoebe reminding me a lot of Uranus' original adoration of Gaia (and his return to said quiet, constant adoration after his castration) while Phoebe's overseeing of her mantle being very reminiscent of Gaia's own kingmaking both for Cronus and later for Zeus. For me, theirs is a pair without ego. A lot of the friction and instability in the younger generation of gods comes from the battle between intelligence and power - toes are constantly stepped on, glory is constantly being sought and the efforts made to counteract these moves results in conflict. Koios and Phoebe seem to have it all figured out by comparison. They've both handily passed their mantles down to their children, they've both overseen and instructed them and can rest easy knowing that they will not misuse said mantles and they've both just kind of retired now, content to spend their time in the evergreen Hyperborea, wrapped up in each other's arms like their father and mother before them and like, honestly? Good for them.
#ginger rambles#ginger chats about greek myths#pursuing daybreak posting#This was a lot of fun to put into words ngl!#I really love thinking about Koios and Phoebe because I genuinely just imagine that they're stupidly powerful#stupidly in love old people who are just living out their days peacefully after millenia of nonsense#It helps that their grandchildren genuinely have shit so under control all the time - they legit never have to step in or squabble over#politics or power. Like grandma and grandpabbie are straight vibing and you love to see it#Considering Drakon and Python - I also really like paralleling them as implements of Koios and Phoebe#Because Apollo slays Python and in doing so transitions from child to man as he claims his birthright while Heracles#slays Drakon for the golden apples as the last step before his metaphorical apotheosis; his trip into death and his glorious return#No I will never stop talking about Apollo and Heracles as a sibling and divine pair you can't stop me#But yeah no - Koios and Phoebe are super cool I love them a lot and I genuinely think the femininity of the mantic line is something#worth exploring not just from an academic perspective but from a literary perspective because female power in Greek myths is extremely#and distressingly underrated like it's actually crazy. Apollo's whole family line is nothing but powerful ass women#Anyway I'm not gonna get onto that soapbox here but just think about it#Hope you enjoyed reading this anon <33#Coeus#Phoebe#Apollo#Artemis#Leto#Asteria#greek mythology
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