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oh my god. oh my god. so the death at nightless city. oh my god. the ive lost so much control I've tried so hard for so long everyone i love is dead or hates me ive given up so much its not worth it any more. oh my god. and lan zhan not stopping trying until the literal end im absolutely lost i need 3-5 business years to recover
#WELL THATS ABOUT HOW LONG IT TOOK LAST TIME#cql#xiao zhan i respect you so much#the bills were due the limits were waiting to be set and he overachieved for all of it
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Circeâs Note #1



Note: These are just my own observations, ideas, thoughts and theories. This is just for entertainment purposes. Also, please be respectful of my observations! It is perfectly understandable to not resonate with some of my personal observations but please do not leave any disrespectful comments! Lastly, please donât plagiarize any of my works!Without further ado, enjoy!
**All photos are from Pinterest**
âż Cancer risings celebrities are often being linked with the "mother" reputation. Ex: Angelina Jolie, and Ateez's Seonghwa
âż Aries Mars with Capricorn tend to either be super organized or impulsive/hasty. But one thing about these individuals, they will always get things DONE đ€.
âż If you observe k-pop idols' mars signs, it shows their dance style. Ex: Aespa's Karina is a Taurus Mars who dances in a very elegant and sensual way and keeps her energy consistent. Stray Kids's Hyunjin has an Aries Mars and he has a burst of energy that occurs throughout the performance but tend to get tired more easily. Another example of Aries Mars and Taurus Mars is NCT Dream's Jeno and NCT Dream's Jisung.
âż Men with Earth sun, tend to come from wealthy families too...
âż What is it with Scorpios with tattoos?
âż I've seen so many gorgeous Aries placement woman that are underrated when it comes to beauty posts. Ex: Rihanna, Angelina Jolie, Bae Irene, Madison Beer, Audrey Hepburn...the list goes on and on
âż People with Pluto/Lilith/Scorpio in 4th house tend to have complicated relationship with their mother
âż Question, what is it with cap moons having bad relationship with their mother?
âż Also Cap Moon mother tend to be workaholic
âż Libra Mars and their anger issues...
âż Since we're on the topic of Libra Mars, can we talk about how many libra mars there are in the C-Entertainment industry? Like everytime I look up a c-celebrity a Libra mars pop up. Its a requirement at this point đ. Actually detrimental mars in general is dominating the C-Entertainment industry. Ex: Xiao Zhan, Wang Yibo, Dylan Wang, Zhao Liying, Yang Yang, etc are all libra mars just to list a few and then there's Bai Lu (Cancer Mars), Angelababy (Taurus Mars), the list goes on and on and on.
âż Virgo MC tend to get nitpicked by the public so much that their names are always mentioned. Ex: Kim Kardashian, Blackpink's Jennie, Taylor Swift, etc.
âż A lot of idols tend to have 11th house placements (Ex: Seventeen's Hoshi, S.Coups, Mingyu and Dino have 11th house stellium, Twice's Nayeon have Sun in 11th, Verivery's Yongseung also have 11th house stellium.)
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#astro notes#astro observations#astrology#cancer#astrology notes#pluto 4th house#Capricorn moon#natal observation#libra mars#11th house#earth sun#astro community#astrology community#circesastro
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BOJUNYIXIAOâs Weibo Night 2024/2025 Part I đŽđĄđą
here we are again with the boysâ yearly same-event appearance. a tradition of sorts at this point that cpfs look forward to. Itâs fun to clown and speculate on what is happening behind the scenes cause they most likely will not be in the same frame. if you wanna look back on last yearâs events then go here.
i know i said this recap will be done by the end of the night but i thought about how it would be too long to read. also, this is a breather why we wait for them be onstage cause thus ceremony is too long. lol. the next post by end of day will focus more on candies that happened during the show.


I. Getting tickets and Rumors of them going
as with other wb nights, tickets can be achieved through fan voting. compared to last year that was competitive for cpfs, this one was more relaxed. or maybe fans werenât that interested in attending. cause there was so little news if the boys will even attend the event initially. i wanna say it was a pretty good mix of fandoms on the list. for cpfs, it was the fansites dominating as usual.
by 1/8 in the morning, we saw that both of them have won awards in their respective works: Xiao Zhan for his song "wo me " as Favorite Music of the Year" & Wang Yibo for starring in the movie "formed police unit" for "Weibo's Favorite Movie of the Year"; his personal documentary "Exploring New Unknown" winning "Weibo's Favorite Variety Show of the Year". these are automatically posted by weibo via the respective accounts involved and people can see it in the voting site for the event. then in the afternoon, melons started coming out that they will be going. and this is further solidified by wb nightâs teaser post that seem to allude to gg & wyb. so before announcing, wb night shares cards with statements on it. each card representing a celebrity. and here comes the hilarious part, their cards were posted side by side on 20:32 (p1). for yibo itâs a short one, i am here. which alludes to his new song. and for gg itâs smooth sailing and good health which is his wish for the new year.


then at 1/9, very early into it, the re-issued the card sets and this time the two were separated. your guess is as good as mine on why this was done. lol.

weibo night never shied away from the whole xz and wyb cp before when it was considered âacceptableâ. here is an example of an actual post back in 2020 where they even used the GGDD nickname for them. at the time, it was okay cause they were the hottest âpairâ with cql as a breakthrough drama. personally, i think weibo night was being very sneaky initially posting it that way. trying to drum up an audience but then so/os had to go ahead and be salty about it so it had to be split. iâm not gonna stop saying it, a reason why very little interaction is done between them â itâs partly to not upset their âfansâ. it is what it is. solo fandoms in c-ent is serious business & something very understandable in an industry perspective.
but again, thatâs just me and maybe cpfs reading too much into it. feel free to have your own interpretation.
II. The Official Announcement
On 1/9 at 11:30 yibo posted that he is attending the event. yibo-official also shared some reminders to not gather and disrupt public order when they go. A coincidence cause at the same time XZ posted about his Portrait magazine. which makes sense and may not be even about cpn but itâs still nice to get notifications from them on weibo đđđ
Then at 15:54, XZ finally posted. XZS also came in and shared it with the reminder.


and so it was confirmed that they are both attending the ceremony. this day was also kinda busy for them cause wybâs loewe campaign was also released and gg had his portrait magazine interview also out.
itâs safe to say that cpfs were pretty busy ^^
after that, later in the evening, their video messages were also published by weibo night. here is a combined video of that:
1/10, as expected, there was a lot of chatter on who will be attending â particularly the CPs who will be there. it is relevant in the sense that there are a couple of hot drama CPs that will be attending. but with all the polls from various blogs, the top vote is always BJYX. lol. so strong!

they are not a âCPâ in that sense tho. they are real!
III. Pre Show
WYB started off pretty early by posting a teaser of his look for the night. some are saying it reminds them of what he wore for 11.11 night when XZ was also there.

There was also a video showing the seating arrangement. It appears that they only have 4 people separating them. tho itâs not a guarantee of anything but this is close! some donât like the number assigned for yibo tho cause itâs row 2 seat 27. 227. ugh.
It doesnât stop there tho!!!!!
there is a photothat the number was folded up so it wonât be visible. it was removed by staff (video). cpfs are crying over this cause it may have been requested to be removed by wyb due to the negative connotation. he also changed positions with LX. he really went that far! people are saying that itâs easy to change seats, so why did the number have to be torn apart? there is no need to do that. also, changing seats with LX means WYB will be away from the center so it does not benefit him. idk who gave that number to WYB, but he definitely wonât be used to bully XZ or start some bad rumor. he is truly a boss! he protects xz in ways like this. i cannot đđđđđ
i love this comment about it: wyb is not only sitting in that position, he wants that number to disappear.
and oh, Todâs is one of the major sponsor of Weibo Night. XZâs ad is playing on the big screen of the venue. Will WYB see it? lol
IV. Red Carpet
WYB ( video )
I prefer this look from last year! Thom Browne is good for him. plus that cape and his hair đ«¶đŒ i would have loved it if he participated with what they were doing in the carpet and did the interview, but weibo is trash so i guess itâs okay. lol.
red carpet photoshoot
XZ ( video )
red carpet photoshoot
RED! itâs his color! plus some sparkles. this one is a custom look from GUCCI. iâm kinda bummed out that he did a group red carpet. i think they are the guest of honors and weiboâs way of getting a top hot search. but he still shined! he was so tall!!!!!!!
iâm gonna put this candies here cause they seem to be âred carpet relatedâ. but iâm really cackling over how we manage to put their outfits together as âmarriageâ outfits once more đđđđ lol. cause xz is in red and wyb in black.
some are also curious about ggâs huge ass ring. đ ( itâs by boucheron tho )

and the hot search related to xz is whose groom is he but of course there is only one answer. itâs wyb. lol. please stop giving us ammunition to watch! yâall know cpfs are so ready today!
-END (ish) to be continued. âșïž
#yizhan#bjyx#there is no science here iâm just clowning like i always do#THE SWITCHING OF SEATS OMG BO GE IS SO PROTECTIVE I CANT
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Regarding CPN discussions, questions and comments

Several times over the past few days I've had to remind people about a boundary I have around discussions of CPN, so I feel it might be a good time to remind everyone of this so that everyone is on the same page.
I'm always preaching that CPN is for turtle's eyes only. It isn't meant for wider consumption by solos or passersby. This is for the protection of turtles and of GG and DD. When CPN crosses over into other areas, it pretty much always leads to fan wars and anti activity.
One of the measures that I feel passionately about in connection with this is the notion that
CPN should never be discussed in posts that are tagged with GG and DD's individual names.
There are a couple of really good reasons for this:
It's part of staying in our own lane. Solos follow the tags for GG and DD's individual names, and if CPN is discussed in those posts, solos can stumble across it and create problems. I have faced a lot of harassment in the past - including the recent past - from solos because of this very thing, and it's not fun. Fan wars are never good, but especially not when I become a target for hate through no fault of my own. If you talk about CPN in the comments of my posts, I am going to be the one attacked for it, not you.
Posts tagged with their individual names are for celebrating their individual works and achievements. There's plenty of space for clowning elsewhere.
All that I ask is that before you comment to discuss CPN in the notes of one of my posts, please double check that it is not tagged with 'xiao zhan' or 'wang yibo'. If it is, submit your comment or question to me as an ask, contact me privately about it, or find a post on my blog on a related subject that is tagged with 'bjyx' or 'yizhan' and comment there.
You can also feel free to make a post about it in the Yizhan Tumblr community.
Please also feel free to do whatever you want, take whatever risks you want, and embody your own values around this topic on your own blog, including reblogging my individual posts with whatever commentary you want. Feel free to use whatever tags you want and to discuss whatever you want in a reblog. Just please don't comment with CPN in posts on my blog that are tagged with their individual names.
A note on reactions
Some people really take it personally and get bent out of shape when I make this kind of request. This is by no means a rare reaction. The majority of turtles who I mention this to in response to CPN comments in the notes of these posts respond in a negative way. Some even unfollow or block me for it.
I don't understand why anyone would be offended by a boundary I set for my own well-being online, or why anyone would take personally a decision that I have made for my own well-being.
I have had a lot of harassment and hate thrown at me over the years, and due to a lifetime of being singled out, I am especially sensitive to bullying. It's just not something I want in my life, and I will seek to avoid and prevent it at all costs. Please respect my needs in this regard.
As importantly, we really do need to stay in our own lane to try to maintain some measure of harmony between fandoms, and to avoid fan wars.
This is not a new boundary - I've been stating it for years. @accio-victuuri has been saying this for years as well. It is by no means unusual for this request to be made by turtles. It is a best practice for avoiding fan wars.
So please try to be understanding about this. I would never make a request of someone if I didn't have a good reason.
I don't state these things to make you feel bad in any way. Nor do I hold it against you if you make a mistake. I'll just remove that comment and explain to you why I've done so. Don't take it personally. I appreciate people's engagement with my posts, and do not want to make anyone feel alienated. I do my best to express myself in a kind and understanding way.
I hope you will extend me the same courtesy.
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Happy pride!!! I would die for a continuation of lady mo please!
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Wei Wuxian is keeping himself upright through sheer force of will and his utter refusal to let Lan Zhan be right about anything.
He has been sort of exhausted lately, but heâs been training himself into the ground and keeping to ridiculous Lan morning routines and he has a curse mark slowly killing him, so he thinks heâs entitled. He would have made it to the Jin tower just fine if he hadnât run into Song Lan and had to hunt down a town fierce corpses and fight Xue Yang. That alone would leave most people exhausted, so he has a perfectly good excuse for his vision to be going fuzzy on the edges.
Except heâd literally rather fall off his sword and snap his neck then admit that. He canât even let that happen, because A-Qing is flying on his sword with him, and sheâs not even a cultivator. Her bones will break a lot easier than his will.
Heâs not even injured. Or, well, not any injuries that count. He once fought off fierce corpses right after having his core ripped out, being tortured, and dropped from a height high enough to kill. Some bruises and cuts are nothing, and they donât feel like anything now. Maybe he should have let Xue Yang stab him a couple of times. It would have made everything more believable and also would have let him nap with his dignity intact.
They land back at the inn and the rest of the Lans look extremely relieved and then confused when they see their newest additions. Except for Jin Guangyao, who only shows that heâs noticed them by raising a single eyebrow and looking to him immediately.
Jin Guangyao is a stone cold bitch thatâs too smart for anyoneâs own good. Wei Wuxian sort of regrets that theyâd never had any reason to really get to know one another during the war. Surely Jin Guangyao could have steered him away from some of his worse decisions.
âWeâre bringing guests,â he announces to all of them, jumping to the ground and nudging A-Qing to do the same with a guiding hand on her hip. âSong Lan and Xiao Xingchen, who I assume you all already know. And A-Qing. Theyâve had a rough time and weâre going to be very nice to them.â He looks over to Lan Xichen. âI guess itâs a good thing that you brought the carriage. They can ride in there the rest of the way.â
The awkward silence is broken by Jin Guangyao saying, âMadame Jin is not fond of accommodating extra guests.â
Madame Jin is going to make Jin Guangyao deal with it because sheâs petty that way. Apparently Jin Zixuan plays interference as much as he can, but considering heâs no longer fighting fit and the perfect heir he once was, his ability to influence his mother has been similarly reduced.
A politician down to her core. Wei Wuxian might be able to admire it if it didnât make him hate her so much.
âIâm not fond of Madame Jin, so Iâm sure it even outs,â he says carelessly.
Some of the Lan go to the effort to pretend to be appalled but most of them seem to have no problem agreeing, regardless of all the rules of propriety and respecting oneâs elders that heâs breaking. People take their cue from their leaders and Lan Xichen is straight up just pretending he didnât say that, probably because he agrees.
Heâs treated to the rare sight of Jin Guangyaoâs dimples. âCan you at least pretend not to be a menace? I can only put out so many fires at once.â
âI can pretend,â he agrees and then A-Qing is faking a coughing fit to hide her giggles.
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Director Jiaozi and the Chinese Animation Industry
If youâre on my page it probably means youâve seen my endless gushing about Ne Zha 1 and 2. Iâve always been a huge fan of domestic animation (domestic for me meaning China) as well as international Japanese and Western animation.
In particular, I admire big blockbuster animated films that managed to both convey cultural, artistic and spiritual messaging through a medium as notoriously finicky as animation.
Some of my favourite animated movies (I think this is an opinion held by every animation fan) are the Spiderverse series (despite not being a Spiderman fan) and the Ghibli movies of my youth.Â
Being Chinese, though, I grew up with 2D animated TV shows that cemented their place in my upbringing. Shanghai Animation Studio movies such as Ne Zha Conquers the Sea 1979,
Havoc in Heaven 1961,
and even 1878âs Calabash Brothers (or Gourd Brothers? I guess?)
are all iconic parts of growing up as a Chinese.
Chinese animation has never been widely acclaimed on a global scale the way Japanese animation and sometimes Western animation have. The domestic animation industry is made entirely up of passion projects, which can seem great until you realise passion projects donât typically tend to make money.
In a film industry as hyper-competitive and critical as China, most animation projects never tend to make it far. Art and music, while highly respected once you achieve success, have high barriers to entry. Chinese people are very critical of artistic work because of thousands of years of artistic development.
You may have heard of a recent animated film in China called A Mermaid Summer (or however it was translated). 2 people spent 7 years making it- the movie was bullied to oblivion.
A Mermaid Summer is, quite frankly, shit. Itâs terrible. The animation is bad, the storytelling is bad, the voice acting is bad. It was, however, a passion project made by like 2 people on their own- people understand why itâs bad, and itâs not like we expected Oscar-worthy visuals.
Does this seem incredibly harsh to bully these two hardworking people? YES, it does! And it IS harsh and mean!
Understand that thousands of beautiful works (made meticulously and with great care) receive little to no attention in the domestic industry, made by equally small teams as A Mermaid Summer but with much higher quality.
The creators werenât seasoned pros and definitely didnât deserve to be bullied so much, but it wouldâve honestly been much better if they had scrapped it. (They had actually considered starting over but decided to keep going, which I think wasnât a good decision).Â
Putting out a bad product is never better than taking your time, even if it takes you a lifetime.
I tell you about A Mermaid Summer to establish some baseline rules in the Chinese film industry and how Chinese people want films to be made (both animated and non-animated):
It does not matter how long it takes. The end product has to be good.
If the product is bad, NO MATTER how beloved the director/idea/IP/characters are, itâs going to flop.
In an animated movie: either the animation has to be great, or the plot has to be great. If you have one or the other, itâs meh. If you have both, yay! You cannot, however, get away with having both be mid.
If the product is bad, no one cares how much work you put in or how sad your circumstances are: there is going to be ZERO people complimenting or watching your work. Results speak, not effort.
Doesnât this seem very strict? Thatâs because it is, but itâs the reality. Recently a movie came out based on the beloved novel series by Jin Yong, called Legend of the Condor Heroes. Condor Heroes is probably one of Chinaâs biggest ever IPs.Â
Its fans are everywhere. My parents love Jin Yongâs novels and so do 80% of Chinaâs population. Itâs as big as Harry Potter, basically, just for a different audience.
The actors in the movie are all popular too. Xiao Zhan, Leung Ka-fei, Ada Choi are all big-names.
However, Legend of the Condor Heroes completely flopped. The art direction and writing was bad and the acting was mid. The movie industry is not like the TV drama industry: if your movie is bad, NO ONE CARES if the actors are hot or if the IP is big, it will flop.
In this harsh environment, animated films especially struggle. Weâve seen a severe lack of good Chinese animated films. Is this critical culture to blame? Certainly part of the problem, but itâs also (somewhat sadly and ironically) what drives people to want to excel.
A very tough love solution.Â
This is why it is especially shocking and especially impactful that Ne Zha 2 is doing so well.
Ne Zha 2âs directorâs stage name is Jiaozi (which means dumpling). His real name is Yang Yu. I will call him Jiaozi, though.Â
He graduated from med school in a fairly-prestigious university in Sichuan. Everyone knows how rigorous med school is. While he was studying, he spent every night holed up in his dorm figuring out the basics of animation. After graduation, he didnât go to work- he spent three years living basically in his motherâs basement trying to make an animated film.Â
A very, very classically doomed story. However, against all odds, he did it. He released a 16-minute animated short in 2008 called æïŒæäžȘć€§è„żç (or See Through).
Itâs available on YouTube and it has a total of 0 lines of dialogue. This short, however, went viral for its anti-war, anti-hate and anti-propaganda message. It won a lot of domestic and international awards.Â
Through those three years he spent making See Through, he lived off his motherâs retirement fund of 200 dollars a month (1000 yuan), bought virtually nothing, and worked 14 hours a day.
See Through didnât garner him instant success. After all, it was just an animated short. Within a year it wasnât really mentioned anymore. He did, however, get his foot in the door.
Ne Zha is one of the biggest IPs in China. He has the most film/anime/comic/game adaptations after Sun Wukong (thatâs including Dragon Ball and all the Dragon Ball spinoffs).Â
Jiaozi basically made Ne Zha 1 on two cents and a dream. The movie was low-budget (Iâm talking 22 million) and in interviews, he revealed he had no money to hire a motion capture expert or a voice acting coach, so he did all of this himself. He even voice-acted some of the characters to save on costs.
The entire cast was unknown VAs. The animation was done by newbies just entering the industry. This movie was the definition of cutting costs.
Against all odds, it succeeded. Ne Zha 1 won fans over with its humour, stellar character-building and refreshing message. It became the highest grossing film of that year and catapulted Jiaozi into fame.Â
Almost as soon as Ne Zha 1 succeeded (within a year), Jiaozi began work on Ne Zha 2.Â
If you compare pictures of Jiaozi before and after producing Ne Zha 2, you can notice he looks like heâs aged a lot more than 5 years.
Jiaozi has said heâs an extremely introverted person prone to anxiety, and that heâs a huge perfectionist to the point where itâs harmed both his professional and personal life.
He outsourced many of the more complicated scenes on Ne Zha 2 to top foreign production companies. You can see their names (Korean, Indian, Japanese, American etc) in the end credits of Ne Zha 2.
However, he said in an interview that because the project was coming from mainland China (which, as weâve established, has a fairly weak animation industry), these foreign companies sent only their lowest-rate animators despite the high rates Jiaozi was paying them.
As such, Jiaozi had to redo most of these scenes from scratch with domestic groups.
Hundreds of animation studios in China joined to work on Ne Zha 2. Jiaozi invested almost all the money he made off the first movie back into the second one. These workers were young, passionate newcomers to the industry- they once again didnât have the budget to hire seasoned pros despite the much looser spending constraints.
The studios that joined Jiaozi worked at low rates (sometimes not even breaking even on labour costs) to produce Ne Zha 2.
5 years later it happened. Ne Zha 2 is making an incredible amount of money.Â
Most people are worried about the pressure the success of Ne Zha 2 is putting on Jiaozi- about a week ago he officially announced heâs stopping all interviews and publicity for Ne Zha 2 to go into âseclusionâ to work on the 3rd movie, before 2 even finished airing.Â
Heâs been working extremely unhealthy hours for over a decade. However, the results have paid off. Thatâs all we can say, I guess.
The reason why many Chinese adore Ne Zha so much isnât just because the movies are good- itâs because the movies are good enough that they basically became hope for the future of the domestic animation industry.
A *relatively* small company (not small anymore, considering how big theyâre probably going to get in the future) managed to make 2 of the highest grossing films in Chinese history and one of the highest-grossing films of all time. Jiaozi has made more in box office sales with 2 full-length movies than most directors with over thirty or fourty.
Itâs incredible that what seemed like such a doomed journey turned out so fantastically. Many young Chinese animators now dream of working with Jiaozi, or becoming like him.
Of course, Jiaozi isnât perfect. Heâs at the very least extremely talented, probably a âgeniusâ (or however you define genius) and incredibly hardworking.Â
His workers describe him as a nightmare director not because heâs rude but because he is incredibly nitpicky and has seemingly impossibly-high standards. Heâs also a little bit of a douchebag (he made a short film called The Bossâs Woman thatâs pretty misogynistic but it was never formally released).Â
However. You canât deny that Jiaozi has accomplished what decades of animators before him havenât been able to. Ne Zha 2 is the greatest animated movie in history. Thatâs incredible for the Chinese animation industry, which before Ne Zha has never been able to get a stable footing.
Some other Chinese animated movies I recommend as well as some notes.
As a general rating marker: I rateÂ
Ne Zha 1: 7.5-8/10
Ne Zha 2: 9/10
The Shawshank Redemption: 9.5/10
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King: 9/10
Decide from these rankings whether or not you think my opinions on movies are valid and if you want to keep reading.
ć€§é±Œæ”·æŁ Big Fish and Begonia 2016
7.5/10
Co-produced with Korean animation studio
Very touching, very tear-jerking
Animation is beautiful
éżćźäžäžé 30,000 Miles from ChangâAn 2023
6.5/10
Ehhhh?
Itâs definitely touching but not for everyone
Not understandable for a wide audience: youâd need to know some basic Chinese history and culture
Itâs okay
People either love it or hate it
è„żæžžèź°äč性ćŁćœæ„ The Journey to the West: Hero is Back 2015
7.5/10
The animation is just okay, but the story is great
Very hype
One of the first domestic animated movies whose release I actively followed
Without background of JTTW itâs not very good, but if you know you know.
æ°ç„æŠïŒæšæŹ New Gods Reborn: Yang Jian 2022
6/10
The animation is good: more precisely, the models are good
The storyline is kind of a mess
Much better than the other New Gods Reborn movie, which we donât talk about
Worth a quick watch
çœèçŒè”· White Snake 2019
6.5/10
Not bad, the storyline was meh
It got some hype abroad but itâs mid
Worth a watch but itâs way overrated
深攷 Deep Sea 2023
7.5/10
The animation is beautiful and the story is good!
Worth a watch! I recommend it
Very dreamcore, floaty feeling
Gives you a sense of being not quite in our reality in a similar way as some Ghibli moviesÂ
#ne zha#nezha 2019#nezha 2025#chinese animation#chinese culture#big fish and begonia#movies#animation
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All About Virgo Moon in the âMercury Persona Chartâ
Persona charts are essentially a mini natal chart for each sign in your chart, and it gives you more insight and depth into each sign
For example: Your moon sign will become your sun sign in the moon persona chart
How to calculate it:
Search âFree astrological chart selectionâ then click on the one under astro.com website
Under âChart typeâ, change it to âPersona Chartâ
Click âShow the chartâ
I like to think of domicile planets in the persona charts from a natal chart perspective; in the mercury persona chart, any virgo or gemini placements are domicile.
For example, rather than cancer moon and libra/taurus venus being domicile, virgo/gemini moon and virgo/gemini venus would be domicile, specifically in the mercury pc
So Virgo moon in the mercury pc would have an easier time expressing their thoughts bc itâs the ruler of mercury
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-Virgo moons generally have an easier time with self expression, critical thinking, and communication
(unless that moon in 12th or retrograde)
-People like their self expression and they are often praised for many respectable qualities -> being polite, respectful, humble, honest, professional, grateful, well-researched etc.
-People find it easy to talk to you because you donât cross peopleâs boundaries and are well informed on various topics
-These people have immense comedic potential â due to their intelligence, they always have something interesting to say, and educational jokes hit the hardestđ„đ„đ„
-These people are always respectful and grateful to their parents â€ïž
-They are EXTREMELY private about their relationships â you probably wonât know they like someone until theyâre 2 months into a relationship
-These people have boundaries and know how to keep their hands to themselves (most of them)
-People trust you to give them an honest review about things, whether promotion or not
-These people are skeptics at heart and donât tend to fall for scams and cash grabs
-They are mature and responsible and donât jump into things without knowing the consequences
-If you know them PERSONALLY personally, they have another side to them thatâs naggy and irritable
-These people only ever show their distasteful qualities in private
-They have a good control over their emotions in public (they would never pull a karen)
-Most of them tend to avoid substances - a lot of them donât even drink alcohol
-They hate people not respecting their privacy more than the average person
-They donât do PDA most of the time
-Theyâre the friend thatâs usually last to finish a meal â they savour it and are grateful for the food
-Iâve also met a few that are slow ass walkers for similar reasons. âenjoying the sceneryâ vibes
-They hate bad attitude/sassiness more than the average person
-A lot of them eat less than average for their gender, size etc. because they hate the âstuffed fullâ feeling
-This sounds wrong but they donât really look chubby in the face even if theyâre overweightâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ
-They tend to get along with Capricorn/Taurus moon in the mercury pc, and occasionally other Virgo moons
How to spot them:
-Theyâre usually quite articulate and only say things relevant to the conversation
- A lot of them donât talk THAT much or if they do itâs relevant and appropriate
-They can be funny af in a âthatâs so trueâ way
-They tend to have a clean, almost âperfectâ look to them
-They donât usually have any striking features, itâs all very symmetrical and harmonious
-They look really in-touch-with-reality if that makes sense
-Most people find them good looking tbh
Examples:










Left to right: Xiao Zhan, Rob Lopez, Wen Jun Hui, Jung A-hyeon, Zoë Kravitz, Karissa Dumbacher, Wang Yi Bo, Tseng Jing Hua, Lauren Jauregui, Shayne Topp
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Idk why but the pictures cut off, if anyone knows how to fix, let me knowđ
Anyway
I bet barely any Virgo moons will read this let alone relate to it because they donât believe in astrology lol
Thanks for reading â€ïž
#astrology observations#astrology notes#persona charts#mercury persona chart#virgo moon#virgo#virgo placements#astrology community
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okay but you know what shocks me? I entered MDZS fandom this year after years of avoiding it. My experience of it from an online perspective was: god. this fandom is insanely loud. With "Sexy Times with Wangxian," erotic fanart, cuts of the scene where Xiao Zhan falls off the cliff, blood om his lips and Wang Yibo holds him (the worst acting and shooting in the whole series) and a bunch of my mutuals from other fandoms going "gege," I thought: must avoid.
But this year, I sorta was done with writing fiction for my main fandom and my friend was watching the Untamed so I decided to watch it with her; and it was like, cool. A lot of cool things. Then I find out the manhua and read quotes of the novel and clips of the audio drama and I'm in - hook, line and sinker. But it's when I get introduced to the main plotline and start dissecting the layers of narration that I realize I've truly found a gem, haha.
Every day I add free time to my sched to just chill; everyday I go like "I'm going to summon my Lan Zhan spirit and get my shit done" and when I'm scared I think of Wei Ying and his dauntless spirit; personally i dont like idolizing people. Wangxian are fictional but they have very complete characters. Being good didn't take away their misery. They weren't stupidly idealistic, in fact, their thoughts about the world were similar to mind but my actions aren't yet similar to theirs; but I'm getting there. It's just comforting to find a novel they captures how you think about the world and happiness etcetera or even love.
I can relate to Wei Wuxian by having many friends and being sort of their caretaker and also to Lan Wangji at being someone who doesn't speak unnecessarily a lot? And how sometimes you wish to find someone who's similar to you, but allows you to loosen up without pushing your boundaries. I can relate on how their love was borne out of firstly attraction, then understanding and respect, shared ideals and how I too avoid saying it's love until it's right in front of my face and then I realize I've been a fool, haha. Like, I call Wei Ying oblivious (I dont) but I was kissing girls and I didn't even know liking them was an option!
So, really, I love this book so much :"""
#wangxian#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#the grandmaster of diabolism#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#wei wuxian#lan wangji
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Bad Habits Chapter 16 Preview
I know I left on a tough cliffhanger and I've been a bit busy...February is a tough, busy month for me, but I hope you all enjoy! A little clip from Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji's talk...
When Wei Wuxian stepped inside, golden eyes shot up looking at him cautiously. He couldnât blame the man. After all, he had driven him away and kept his distance. Lan Wangji had been respectful of that. He had given him time. Wei Wuxian tried to give him a reassuring smile as he walked up, but he knew it fell flat. He didnât know how to put a good mask on in front of Lan Wangji and he found he didnât want to hide himself.
âLan Zhan,â he said in greeting. âThanks for meeting me.â
âOf course,â Lan Wangji said. âYou asked for time, but Iâm grateful that youâre keeping your promise to talk.â
Of course Lan Wangji would think he was making good on a promise. He didnât know where to begin, so he deferred to the menu.
âLetâs get some food first. You said you hadnât eaten and I could eat too. Whatâs good here?â
Lan Wangji made some recommendations and Wei Wuxian and him settled on what they wanted. The food arrived and as Lan Wangji said, it was delicious. Wei Wuxian actually enjoyed a meal for the first time in weeks. He could feel Lan Wangji watching him while they both ate and he tried not to let it bother him. Once they were done, he knew he couldnât avoid the conversation any longer.
âLan Zhan,â he said, getting his attention, not that he had lost it in the time theyâd been here. âIâm so sorry about what happened. I know we talked about me having panic attacks, but things were going so well that I didnât look ahead and prepare you for how bad they could be.â
âYou did warn me, Wei Ying, but I could have done some of my own research on it. Iâve been looking into it since then that way next time I can help you.â
That made him feel a bit worse. Xiao Xingchen was right that Lan Wangji had been ill prepared to help him. He was trying not to let the guilt eat at him though. He couldnât linger on how he failed, only that he learned from it and moved forward.
âIâm also sorry that I hurt you. I really wasnât in my right mind. Iâm ashamed to admit it, but it was a nightmare with Wen ChaoâŠI really couldnât differentiate between reality and my dream. Even when you were talking all I could here was his voice. I wasâŠembarrassed by the whole thing.â
âWei Ying,â he said reaching out to carefully lay his hand over Wei Wuxian. The contact made his heart flutter a bit. It was warm against his skin and helped to ground him. âI can understand why you reacted the way you did. You thought that you were in dangerâŠthat your son was in danger. Preservation won out.â
Wei Wuxian shook his head in denial. âIt still doesnât change the fact that you were hurt by it. I fought you, Yuan kicked you, and then instead of facing you and explaining, I forced you outâŠ.kept my distance. I only thought about myselfâŠmy guilt and embarrassment. Iâd understand if you were upset with meâŠif you decided I was too much trouble. You deserve better.â
He felt a gentle pressure on his hand. It wasnât constricting and in fact it was reassuring. He let his eyes finally take a look at Lan Wangji. While the other man had a concerned look on his face, he was calm even relieved. Wei Wuxian expected him to be angry, upset even.
âYou went through something terrible and itâs only been a few years. Healing takes time, some days are better than others. Even I struggle with my own personal experiences and traumas. I cannotâŠwill not be angry or upset with you for needing space or needing whatever it is you need to work through your own thoughts and emotions. I was upset, more at myself for being unable to help you when you needed it. I did not like how helpless I felt during and after. For the first couple of days after, I kept wondering what I could have said or done to have the events turn out differently. Now that I have seen it, I have a better idea of what to expect and now that Iâve researched it, I know how to better help you.â
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oh i like these posts. hahahahahaha! politics aside, oh well, no actuallyâ i donât think we can ever put aside politics when it comes to the boys ; I see cpfs sharing posts and commenting on this personâs âgreetingâ for wyb. and well, you will see why. she is a politician in hongkong.


[Patriotic top star Wang Yibo]
What big day is August 5? Last year, this day was the 12th anniversary of the New People's Party; it was also the birthday of Wang Yibo, a top star in the mainland.
Wang Yibo has a deep connection with Hong Kong. He was born in 1997, when Hong Kong returned to the motherland. I still remember that he sang a song "Stand Up" for Hong Kong on the 25th anniversary of the return; on July 1, 2023, he personally came to Hong Kong to attend the "Greater Bay Area Film and Music Gala" "The Moon Rises in the Bay Area", but unfortunately it did not cause much response at the time.
Although he is not a popular idol of Hong Kong people, friends who pay attention to the mainland entertainment industry know that Wang Yibo is a top star in the mainland entertainment industry; he has extraordinary dancing skills, and his status as the "King of Dance" in the mainland is unquestionable. In addition, he is also engaged in many public welfare undertakings; he recently filmed a documentary series on protecting pangolins as a public welfare ambassador of WildAid. He is an artist with both talent and virtue.
I once asked a public question in the Legislative Council: Since Hong Kong is hosting many events and concerts, the SAR government should actively consider inviting mainland top stars Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo to perform in Hong Kong. I believe that this will attract a large number of fans from the mainland and around the world to support Hong Kong and truly promote Hong Kong's concert economy.
Recently, there are two things about him that impressed me the most. First, his performance in the mainland hit drama "War of Faith" was amazing, and his acting skills have made a great leap forward. I, like many mainland audiences, think that he deserves the "Best Actor". Unfortunately, he was not nominated for the Best Actor in the list of nominees for the Shanghai TV Magnolia Awards earlier. This incident triggered a series of controversies in the mainland entertainment industry. Many people feel sorry for him.
In addition, when he was serving as a torchbearer for this year's Olympics in Paris, he saw a fan holding a mini national flag accidentally dropped it on the ground, and he picked it up spontaneously, showing his sincere respect and love for the national flag. If every young person in Hong Kong can spontaneously love the national flag and national emblem, and understand that it represents the dignity of the country, then it means that Hong Kong's patriotic education has truly succeeded.
In summary, Wang Yibo is an outstanding young man. He went to Korea for training when he was young. After years of hard work, he has mastered first-class dancing skills. His acting skills have also been recognized in recent years. Even though he is a top star with huge commercial value, he is also enthusiastic about public welfare. He is really a role model for artists. I hope that young people in Hong Kong will take him as an example and learn how to be a good young man with both talent and virtue, who loves the national flag and spontaneously safeguards the dignity of the country.
* So i guess itâs now obvious why cpfs like this post so much. itâs because both of them were mentioned. and is is what weâve been hoping for, that they will be invited to events and probably even work on a project together because they are âpositiveâ artists. and how important it is for them to maintain that image to stay safe in the industry. tho i have to say that itâs not hard for them cause they are good natured people. Itâs not an âactâ, that is just how they are.
and itâs what weâve been saying, that these two are one of the best ways for CHN to have some soft power in the international stage. tho iâm sure they will have detractors who will be quick to pull out âevidenceâ of their government support and use it against them.
also months back, she also posted something about CQL. so yeah, no wonder she got popular with cpfs âŹïžâŹïž
Chinaâs âdanmeiâ genre is booming in the West
The article âHow to Tell Chinese Stories Wellâ (July 14) overlooks an important genre that is growing in popularity in the West and is more reflective of contemporary Chinese life than works from decades ago such as Shanghai Life and Death or The Wild Swans.
I am referring to the danmei genre of online novels. Danmei is a term that originated in Japan. This new genre has spawned a number of very successful online novels that have been adapted into extremely popular Chinese TV series and translated into English. A prominent example is The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, which was adapted into the Chinese TV series The Untamed in 2019 and translated into English and is available on Amazon.
Untamed made two young actors, Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo, famous in China. Another very successful work is Erha and His White Cat Shizun, which made the New York Times bestseller list in English. The English version has a wide readership in the West and is available in paperback.
Danmei novels celebrate âboysâ loveâ, which is officially frowned upon. A major production based on Erha, produced by Tencent, has been shelved. But the genre has a large following in China and abroad, inspiring fan art, fan works and merchandise.
Many danmei online novels are written by women for women. Why are they so popular among Chinese women? Their popularity reflects the frustrations of contemporary Chinese women: they are trapped between traditional, realistic, family-oriented marriage concepts and a desire for romance and true love, as celebrated in danmei novels. Such novels have become a channel for their fantasy and escapism. Surprisingly, these novels have also been loved by Western audiences.
While TV series based on such novels have been banned, animated versions of some popular works are still in production. The resilience of the genre, which is seen by the authorities as a departure from the official "main melody" works, reflects the delicate relationship between the authorities and the artists who create them. Most of the time, the authorities have the upper hand, but the ban has not stopped private enterprises and creative talents from finding space for the genre to thrive. Can we call it the authorities' "one eye open, one eye closed" attitude?
* this is a short but very interesting take on the whole thing. she is not even mentioning how TGCF is so popular in the mainland and continues to do so with itâs donghua and manhua. i guess itâs really one eye open and one eye closed and i hope it stays that way so that this genre will continue to thrive! iâm not holding that much expectation for the live action versions tho.
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Here's a bit more fandom history for everyone.
It's been a long time since I've heard this incident talked about, but I guess turtles are reminiscing a bit about the kind of things GG's fans subject him to, and this has come back up.
Back in 2019 when GG was in Nanjing for The Untamed fan meet, a hotel staff member left this adorable Jianguo pillow with a little note 'from Jianguo' wishing him success with the concert. GG clearly enjoyed it because he posted it on his Oasis.
At first shrimps were enjoying it because they assumed it was a shrimp who'd done it, but when they realized it was a turtle they freaked out and launched a major cyberbullying campaign against the turtle and flooded the hotel with hundreds of phone calls complaining and trying to get her fired. Some of them threatened to keep calling the hotel every day and overwhelm the phone lines until she was fired.
GG had no choice but to delete the photo. He replaced it with a solid black image, and put the line, "post whatever you want" in his profile.

Just imagine how awful he must have felt, that his fans attacked and harassed a sweet fan who'd made him a lovely gift, nearly getting her fired - all from a post he made showing his appreciation for this cute, thoughtful gift.
If you wonder why GG and DD don't acknowledge turtles and why GG hasn't mentioned XFX by name in years, this is a bit of a clue as to why. GG especially has a lot of reason to be wary of being too personal and open with fans (and no doubt 227 didn't help with that at all). GG and DD know that acknowledging turtles will only harm them and lead to more hate and war from solos.
And GG has repeatedly said - including in his statement on the anniversary of 227, which was the first time he made a direct personal statement about it - that he doesn't believe anyone should identify as "I am ___'s fan."
"I want to tell my fans, everyone has the right to like and hate. No matter if you like or hate, it should be respected and allowed in their own spaces. Of course, this right should be based on rationality and not hurting other people, while following accurate values. I hope that my fans can understand that no matter what field or age, your personal likes and actions shouldn't cross the line or go against that field's ethics or morals. No matter if it's on the Internet or in real life, everyone should be responsible for their own actions. Even more, hope that none of us should be represented by the label 'xxx's fan.'"
GG realizes something that XFX can't seem to get through their heads: when you speak of "fans of Xiao Zhan," that is not synonymous with "XFX," no matter how much they would like everyone to believe that they're his only fan group. Actually, turtles are GG's fans also, as are all people who love and support GG, regardless of how they identify themselves and regardless of how deep or casual is their appreciation for him.
So pretty much ever since this era, and especially after 227, you never hear GG refer to his solo fandom by name. And I don't think that's because he has contempt or disregard for them (although I don't doubt he must harbor 'feelings' about everything they've put him through), rather I think it's because he wants to be inclusive toward all of his supporters, and not let it be thought that he doesn't appreciate everyone, regardless of 'affiliation'.
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13. bl you think is overrated 14. bl you think is underrated 16. favorite trope 18. favorite male actor :)
oh hey, it only took me a year to find the mental energy for this... whoop! (thank you for waiting @dummerjan my lovely đ)
BL I think is overrated:
SOTUS - please don't come for me! I just can't get along with the whole hazing rituals thing, and they were very much the focus of a lot of this. There was a lot of yelling. And it's so vastly different from the way they do things in this country. And Krist is a sweetie IRL but this character was just not for me, you know?
BL I think is underrated:
To My Star - it has a more nuanced take on adult relationships and communication difficulties than a lot of BLs, and I really enjoyed that. The pain of wanting something and yet somehow sabotaging yourself is so real, and the sequel was a similar exploration of the mess we sometimes make as adults just from anxiety and being bad at communicating, and the interesting way it's filmed as well. I just really loved them both so much. The absolute heartache of this moment when SeoJoon decides to look through the old photos... đ
Favourite trope:
If it's done well, hands down it's enemies-to-lovers. The more realistic the enemies part feels, and the longer it takes to resolve, the more delicious the payoff when they finally, finally cave. When they just absolutely can't overcome their feelings any more. That final submission is so, so sweet. The anticipation of it arriving... ugh, I love it. Even better if it's something like the Bad Buddy rooftop scene, where they both finally give in, but one of them is happy about it and the other is devastated. The sweetest trauma. I love it.
Favourite male actor:
Gods this one is difficult. For BLs... Tul? Ohm? Jeff? I'll basically watch anything they're in because they don't miss. I would also possibly kill a man if it meant they'd give Earth Katsamonnat some kind of Diva role because I haven't always liked his other roles but it's so clear he would absolutely slay if they gave him the opportunity to top.
Just generally though, I have tremendous amounts of respect for Wang Yibo. I mean clearly he's a snack, but after Untamed it seemed a little like he was less respected than Xiao Zhan because he was portrayed as a bit more laddish and less serious, but he worked so fucking hard for everything, and has carved out a really respected place in the dance community as well as in tv and film. He can do stoic, panicked, fighting, funny, cool... the man has range. I like it.
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The Longest Promise - Episode 3

So like I said last episode, Iâm not too sure about this drama. So far the story is alright. Xiao Zhanâs great, but we donât know much of his character yet. Ren Min... her character annoys me. And we havenât really started yet. So I fear it might be a painful watch. But here, we go through everything, even though itâs painful. I mean, I hated Eternal Love of dream and I went through the 56 episodes. This one has 16 less. I should survive, no?
So last time, Shi Ying was using magic after Chongming told him to kill Zhu Yan. But it wasnât aimed at her, it was at some dark figures in the back. Probably sponsored by creepy masked person in a black cape. Shi Ying fights against them while Chongming goes to get Da Siming. Zhu Yan is quite useless. She tries to use her fire to stop one of the people, but she ends up burning to ashes Xueyingâs dress. Why would you even put it on in the first place? When Da siming and company arrives, the intruders run away. Shi Ying hides away Zhu Yan, since she didnât leave. He hides the fact that he met with a girl to his master. Turns out the black cloak people are from the Ice clan. They donât know how they could ever come in there. Wherever it is that Zhu Yan is hidden, she finds a Shi Ying and she keeps touching him, which affects the one outside. Miss, do you know anything about consent? And she wonders why... this manâs eyelashes are so similar to the ones of the prince she met years ago... Thatâs weird. There arenât that many types of eyelashes. Definitely not on my list to try and recognize someone.
He gets her out of this hiding place and doesnât really answer any of her questions. Then he erases her memories of their encounter and takes her back to her room. Chongming is really mad at him for not taking care of her, since he will die to her hand. Shi Ying has no intention of killing her. Chongming goes to check if she could be the one killing him. But she isnât, according to her birthdate.
Xuelu gets into Diwang cave too. Chongming passes her out. Shi Ying notices she must be his cousin. So he asks her about his mom. She tells him she has no news, but she heard that sheâs been mistreated. He erases her memories and sends her away while he goes to Da Siming, because he canât let his mom live such a life. But then, he learns that in fear that he would put himself in danger to rescue her, Shi Yingâs mom ended her life. So he goes crazy and Iâm so... undecided about this scene. I could totally feel Shi Yingâs pain, but at the same time... having him turn around while yelling and unleashing power... it seemed ridiculous. To me, this is like... a good actorâs skills being wasted by bad direction. Anyways, Da Siming says they need to take revenge for his mom. That guy... seriously. When she entrusted Shi Ying to him, she told him not to get revenge and to protect the world. At least respect her wishes when she sacrificed everything for the one goal of protecting her son.
Anyways, Da Siming doesnât like heâs a good guy to me. He must have his own agenda. Anyways. He makes sure that Shi Ying sees how bad everyone talks of his mother after her passing. So Shi Ying decides he wants to avenge her, because the world doesnât deserve her kindness since itâs filled with bad people. Rough summary. In anger, he sends Chongming away and even has all dark fume around him. They broke him.
And thatâs it for now. Weâre still settling in the plot. I donât really understand the motives of half of the characters. The female lead isnât very deep. Hopefully it gets better. Weâre not impressed so far.
#the longest promise#xiao zhan#ren min#wuxia#costume drama#cdrama#c-drama#chinese drama#drama review#drama recap#drama reaction
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OTW Board Election Candidate Opinion
This is a very long, very opinionated post. A far cry from my usual. I will not be arguing or debating anyone on it. If we disagree, fair enough! I respect that. So all I ask is you not come for my neck either.
NOTE: Some words are fully censored due Tumblrs own TOS. Please note the Q&A is linked at the bottom for the uncensored version of her words.
That said, as I'm sure a lot of people have seen already, voting for the OTW Board has begun. And I've already seen a lot of people shouting not to vote in favor of Tiffany G.
And, I have to agree.
I, unfortunately, cannot partake in the vote, but I've done some digging anyway. Nothing better to do on a Thursday than voice my opinion into the void that is Tumblr.
Tiffany seems to be in favor of censorship. I say seems because this is just based on what's in front of me, she's not outright said so. Just barely brushed the surface of it.
But let's not get ahead of the game. Let's go through a minor breakdown of the Q&A
In the interview on August 1st, Tiffany stated;
"Well, I think a lot of external people are very concerned about the fact that some works contain child ****, p******** content, and other illegal content."
Let's be honest here folks - there's some truth to this. There are some works published on the site that are vile, or downright contain depictions that would be illegal in real-world scenarios. That is the cost of absolutely no censorship. I think the "Other illegal content" is...more of a grey area, considering the basis of fanfiction; partaking in fictional worlds and universes. For example; gambling under a certain age is illegal, but in the context of 'Kakegurui' clearly, their world doesn't abide by that same rule. That's a very basic comparison, but you get it.
My point? I definitely have opinions on the rampant written **** of children and p********, that I don't think should exist, but the third example is just too broad. Not to mention "External people are concerned." Censorship isn't going to solve that problem. External people are concerned with a tirade of things - the real problems, Gay things, violence, etc. That's how people think and act. What censorship will do, is cause a chain reaction.
One of the biggest reasons for this is a common argument; children are on AO3. Here's the thing - it is not the responsibility of the internet to protect or raise your child. It is not my job as an author to limit what I am writing to being "teen appropriate" because little Timmy went on AO3 and found explicit violence. (See; NC-17 ban).
Moving on, the next segment I want to dissect is this,
"OK this is a follow-up to the last question â people think we host child **** content and such things. This issue is actually closely related to the incident when our service is banned in my home country. It might also be helpful to clarify that to the public."
Firstly, let's start with that home country ban. In 2020, the Chinese government banned AO3 due to an incident regarding a drama, "The Untamed" and an RPF written for actor Xiao Zhan. While it does seem to be what initially started that downhill slope of the Mainland China AO3 ban, it actually seems to still exist more because of China's overall censorship.
I don't want to dwell on that particular part much. I don't know much about China's censorship beyond face value, and I don't know much about this incident specifically. If you want to know more, I encourage you to do the research. I encourage that anyway, really.
The second part though, "clarify that to the public", is a bit odd. Who is "the public"? AO3 has its own social media accounts, but I found AO3 through the author's crossposting on FF.net 5 years ago. Who exactly are we clarifying this for, and what are we clarifying? The public's opinion will vary wildly by country, or area, regardless. That's what makes the broadness an issue.
AO3 has always been a '100% inclusive space' which relies on the lack of censorship to sustain that stance. Take one of the biggest points; LBGTQ+ rep. We are constantly filtered out across the web, and across country borders on other sites. This ties into that chain reaction I mentioned, one domino falls and they all come down.
Trucking forward, here's a long segment;
"I support 100% âmaximum inclusiveness of contentâ, yet there is always a boundary to everything. Since OTW is already an influential org, we need to protect our image and hold a better image to the public. I want the public to think of us as an inclusive and socially responsible community. So in general, we have to do something to change. Things like making the rating system more specific and obvious to users will be what I want to do.
Not really restricting the content being posted. I hope it is like more warnings and ratings for posting work so people know what to expect. And all of these are not surprising to people who do not wish to see this."
So, that's a LOT. And my first comment is that it feels contradictory, if only because of its vagueness. You agree with the maximum inclusiveness, but that there are always boundaries. Now, that in itself is true and not the issue - but where is the boundary? Where do you draw the line in the sand?
There is something I do agree with here though; better tagging. Not necessarily revamping what's already there, but giving more. I.e - the 'Underage' tag is very....not explanatory at all, until you open it and find..well, what you'd expected if you've read this far. But there are fiction, written about teens that include scenes like kissing. That's not bad, but it is considered Underage. Sometimes it makes it to the tag, sometimes it doesn't. But that's the issue - with that tag, you cannot differentiate the two except to read through the results.
I can't push this thought enough; I agree that some things on AO3 are just fucked, but censorship is such a slippery slide, that better ratings and tagging seems a much more reasonable route to go.
All in all, I think there are a couple valid points, but there are far to many that vaguely fall in favor of censorship. Once you begin to censor something, the domino effect will occur. Just look at the NC-17 ban on FF.net all those years ago. I was an avid user of FF.net as a kid. It's where I uploaded my first ever fic. But eventually, I moved on to AO3. Not because I was chasing the said NC-17 fics, but everyone else left because of the ban. The once...decently active community had dwindled some.
At the end of the day, it falls to those who can vote, and what you think is best. That's the point of a democratic voting system for the Board. This is just the opinionated rambling of some random guy on the internet.
I'll leave you with all my resources for this wordy and useless piece below, along with a last segment from that Q&A that really cemented why I believe she is on the side of Censorship.
"(Sveritas): "Please clarify how you propose we treat the content we currently have in the archive that should be banned with those proposed TOS changes."
(Tiffany) "If there are changes, it is going to be some slower work I suspect. Will work with PAC to figure out if changes are necessary."
Q&A Tiffany G's Profile 2020 China AO3 Ban (Vox) FF.net NC-17 Ban (Fanlore)
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I need to scream about Xiao Zhan's acting a little. I'm watching Ace troops and a scene just left me upset. That scene where Gu Yiye has gotten kicked out of the military, and they're about to move and then he freaks out when he can't find his uniforms and when he finally does his hand starts to shake so much he droppes his hat and isn't able to pick it up again. And then he starts beating himself up because his hand isn't working and he can't pick up a damn hat and just... The acting there is so good. All the pain, anger and frustration came through, hit me in the face like a brick, and left me in tears. Also, Gu Yiye and a'Xiu are absolutely precious together and the way she rushed to help him pick the hat up warmed my heart while I was sobbing. I love how she didn't pick the hat up for him and instead helped him pick it up. They are so sweet together.
Im so super delighted to get your message!!! đ
Yes Xiao Zhan is phenomenal in Ace Troops. The different layers in acting and emotions were in my opinion, his best I've seen in his career till now. He embodies YiYe perfectly. That instance you mentioned when he was forced to quit, I cried so much! He was brilliant, and the actress who played A Xiu kept up with him so well. Xiao Zhan's hand tremors... every aspect of that scene is so precious, how being in the military is etched in every fibre of his being, and A Xiu's desire to support her husband by helping him get what's most important to him, in this case through a simple act of helping him pick the hat up instead of picking it herself. She understands his pain better than anyone.
Honestly this is a very well written and a healthy relationship. The couple actually had a lot to work on, A Xiu had her own insecurities with respect to her status and education, which Gu Yiye helped her through. Gu Yiye on the other had had his own scars, something he mentioned occasionally that A Xiu helped him heal emotionally and physically.
Another instance which I really would like to highlight, will be this one:
"Gu Yiye: The main responsibility for this incident should be borne by me and it must also be borne by me.
Axiu: I just ask you who wronged you? How could they do this to you? Don't they know that you are the most beautiful and brightest star in this unit"
Also I'd like to say I feel really happy seeing this Ask. In this app, not many have actually been watching any of XZ's other dramas other than Untamed. Ace Troops is a very hidden gem that should really not be missed if one is a fan of Xiao Zhan.
#xiao zhan#daytoyxiaozhan#daytoyèæ#èædaytoy#èæxiaozhan#sean xiao#èæ#untamed cast#send asks#ace troops
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Thank you for answering my ask! I 100% agree with everything you said, there are a lot of ooc sceneâs but like the one that probably bothered me the most is when Lan Wangji tries to stop Wei Wuxian from saving the Wen Remnants, like Lan Wangji in the novel would never done that in a million years. One of the biggest reasons why Lan Wangji loves Wei Wuxian so much is because Wei Wuxian always stays true to his heart and his beliefs no matter what people say and saving the innocent Wens is exactly doing that. Lan Wangji loves him because he shares the same beliefs as him and Lan Wangji stopping him from that doesnât make any sense and to top it of they added the dramatic crying in the rain which makes it even more ooc. I have so much to say about cql but iâm bad at conveying my thoughts correctly and writing this has already used most of my mental power lol. But yeah like you said Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo are not to blame for this, they did everything they could and they were doing great at doing it. They did a great job showing the chemistry between wangxian and they deserve every praise they get. I enjoyed cql but itâs probably one of my least favorite adaptations. If people like it for whatever reason they are free to do so but i respect the novel way too much. I hope my rambling made any sense and iâm sorry for troubling you.
Ps: do you have some fanfic recommendations?
It's no trouble at all!
The scene when LWJ finds WWX taking the Wen Remnants away from the prison camps is one of the scenes I hate the most. It manages to completely misinterpret the characters of both LWJ and WWX. It makes LWJ seem like a hypocrite and WWX seem like a dumbass with no sense of self worth. When watching cql, I like to ignore LWJ before WWX's resurrection and just mentally substitute him with book LWJ. They didn't understand his character at all. With WWX, on the other hand, they seemed to understand him in one scene and completely misunderstand him in the next.
Book WWX doesn't need anyone to tell him what is right. One of my favorite quotes from the book is: âBut, let the self judge the right and the wrong, let others decide to praise or to blame, let gains and losses remain uncommented on. I, too, know what I should and shouldnât do.â. I feel it perfectly captures WWX's views of his own actions, his trust in his own judgement and, to me, it shows that WWX can give up everything he has in order to do what's right, not because he doesn't value himself, but because not doing so would cost him everything he is, and he knows which is more important. My biggest peeve with cql is that it constantly sacrifices character and plot for the sake of cheap angst (especially wangxian and the jiangs), fan service and to make certain characters more shippable (3zun). All of that would be fine if they didn't do it at a cost to characterization, plot and theme.
I have some fics that I personally like and recommend, but they might not be very new because I don't read a lot of MDZS fanfics anymore 'cause it's so hard to find anything without fannon JC in it. I put the links below:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/33861730/chapters/84189655
https://archiveofourown.org/works/32094283
https://archiveofourown.org/works/34838791/chapters/86750494
https://archiveofourown.org/works/31795915
https://archiveofourown.org/works/34662826/chapters/86298901
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