#worse: queer discourse
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amirmeavid · 2 months ago
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what you don’t seem to understand is that statistics and surveys are JUST as subjective as things like theory. you seem to put things like surveys in a “practical, unbiased truth” category and things like memoirs or theory discussions about people’s actual real-life lived experience in a “impractical, biased falsehoods” category. but that’s YOUR personal judgement, not a universal opinion, and you can’t treat it like it is. statistics and surveys can be just as hypothetical and flawed as “personal experience”. in fact, most of the surveys you pull statistics from were questions answered by individuals about their personal experiences. so like, stop trying to push this arbitrary divide between “theory” and “evidence”.
'what you don’t seem to understand is that statistics and surveys are JUST as subjective as things like theory.'
Dude, Fite-Club I know this is you. You're the only person who will ever make a claim that statistics are AS SUBJECTIVE as something that is PURELY subjective.
I'm not saying statistics are perfect. But trying to argue that RECORDED TRENDS OF LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE are not less subjective than SINGULAR PEOPLE's experiences is only a claim you could make.
'most of the surveys you pull statistics from were questions answered by individuals about their personal experiences.'- Its almost like theres a difference between 'trends' and 'singular individuals'.
'stop trying to push this arbitrary divide between “theory” and “evidence”.' ...Ah yes. The notoriously 'arbitrary' divide between 2 factually different things.
Theory- An educated guess presented as an explanation for observable patterns
Evidence- Observable patterns.
If your theory does not align with observable patterns, it is WRONG.
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spacexfucker · 5 months ago
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"Don't use queer as an umbrella term some people don't like it." Idk how to break this to you but it seems as if when I say "queer" I'm am in fact actually not talking about you I'm talking about fellow queer people sorry
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archivlibrarianist · 1 year ago
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It was only a matter of time before they got to this.
Keep fighting. Don't let them win.
From the article:
"Florida's attorney general is claiming that the state’s public school libraries are 'a forum for government speech' and 'not a forum for free expression,' in a chilling argument that appears to be gaining steam on the right...
"'Florida’s public-school libraries are a forum for government, not private, speech,' Moody argues in the brief, comparing the removal of LGBTQ+ books like Tango to school policies against Nazi propaganda. Although Moody admits in the brief that appeals courts have 'not yet addressed' the legal argument she makes, she cites semi-related precedents — such as whether a state can refuse to display a religious monument — to conclude that 'the compilation of library materials is government speech.' For that reason, she continues, removing any library materials cannot constitute viewpoint discrimination.
"In response, a group of 23 First Amendment scholars filed an amicus brief of their own in September, saying Moody’s argument stands in opposition to decades of First Amendment law. 'Defendant’s arguments would effectively nullify' existing limits on government speech, the brief contends, and 'government speech' analyses have 'no place in public school library book removal decisions.' The authors went on to argue that the court should use different analytical tools, specifically 'forum doctrine,' a principle in U.S. law used to determine reasonable restrictions on public speech, and one which has been used in cases involving libraries since the 1970s.
"...'Should schools be preparing individuals to be broadly educated, to be able to make their own decisions about their lives?' [American Library Association's Office for Intellectual Freedom director Deborah Caldwell-Stone] asked USA Today rhetorically. 'Or should schools be indoctrination centers for only one viewpoint that may not even represent the viewpoint of the majority?'"
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icefireanimates · 26 days ago
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i’m noticing a recurring pattern that i don’t care about things that everyone else cares about and i can’t tell if its an issue i need to rethink or not
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storm-of-feathers · 1 year ago
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okay hi im drunk so bear with me
but you motherfuckers have to understand that a social class is out of your control. there is not a single thing you can goddamn do to change your social class
so trans men being denied access to medical needs ie medical needs around a uterus (something that is very serious and exhausting to have.) isnt saying "oh men are oppressed" its saying "even when trans men are read as women they are still denied bc theyre not women enough. they are also denied mens healthcare post transition bc theyre not considered men enough. the same thing applies to trans women in the reverse. its not about who has it worse, but how we can band together to fight this."
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angel---eater · 5 days ago
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like idk how to TELL these ppl that my femmeness wouldnt exist without my mascness and vice versa. and im not alone in this!!!! at all!!!! both things are beautiful and worth exploring in all aspects actually!!! i boyed AND girled badly at the same time when i was a little kid and that affected me directly and that also affects how i analyze the queer media im into!!!! that is also not a unique experience!!! but bc i dont frame femininity as divine or transient or given to us by the fuckin moon or whatever while devaluing genders i dont personally like (i just treat it as a normal fuckin human experience in tandem with other experiences bc thats what it is. and if you dont like an entire gender, no matter what it is, you should work on that) im apparently a bigot and putting other trans folks in danger. okay
#our t#oh man moot i feel u on those tags in ur rb if you see this#our dirk is kinda transfem leaning but he feels like a fuckin gender traiter and a faker bc hes once again not femming correctly#feels like a traiter fem-ways specifically i mean#because hes not shedding off all instances of his intersex/cis boyness and framing his transfemness as 'getting better'#and he shouldnt fuckin have to bc thats just who he is. but he feels pressured to be a whole girl. he feels like hes baiting ppl#so he never talks about it in public bc its hard enough getting others to treat him seriously as a clocky guy#its fucked. its completely fucked and its the exact same shit that sparked our plurality in our early childhood ill be fully real#but it feels worse bc now its coming from ppl who say over and over again that theyre safe to be around bc theyre also queer.#i cant even get into what our girls go through. no one in this system has ever 'gendered correctly' in the eyes of anyone queer or not#and its only gotten worse. so much worse#this sites hatred of masculinity is hurting the people theyre trying to uplift#fuckin rip to our transfem butches they just aint people to most of this site. not even talking abt fandom circles anymore there#like the way ppl treat bigender wo/men here? nahhh roxanne would be drawn and fuckin quartered. our bro too#and even just binary trans girls.... like if their blogs arent hyperfem and covered in lace they get fuckin transvestigated#the instant theyre 'aggressive' in a way that isnt seen as Feminine Rage#and of course.... all transmasculine people are gender traitors and/or cheated the world out of another object i mean woman (/s)#and fandom discourse and turf wars over gender headcanons is a particularly blatant microcosm of this#its abysmal here
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tweltchy · 16 days ago
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ladsofsorrow24 · 5 months ago
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always find it ridiculous how whenever a mangaka write a fujoshi into their story, the readers always come out of it with the same conclusion of
"oh the author wanted to show that these fujoshis are terrible for fantasizing about men like that, real men don't act like that etc etc"
well... YEAH REAL WOMEN DON'T ACT LIKE ALL OF THE GIRLS IN MANGA AND ANIME TOO so why is it so easy to give free pass to those dudebros but it's so easy to talk shit about fujoshis?
like ofc there are nuanced in this, but damn i've been in the animanga fandom for awhile now and most of the time this sort of thing is just pot calling the kettle black lol
like yeah fujoshis are terrible bla bla bla, but dudebros really is much worse when it comes to dealing with women in real life
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autistic-katara · 1 year ago
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jesus christ rhat opinion is so stupid but its not that serious and i dint wanna argue rn
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wild-at-mind · 1 year ago
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If you ever see me becoming one of those transmisandry people, please fucking call me out immediately.
#it shouldn't happen though i am too triggered by MRA-lite material#i can't see that changing any time soon even though i haven't had exposure to the content for like 10 years#the transmisandry discourse on this site melts my brain it's awful it's just online stuff being argued about more online stuff#this is not the same as me saying i will never be treated badly for being transmasc i am not stupid i know that happens#and i am fully committed to fighting the patriachy which has nothing whatsoever to do with my individual manhood or anyone else's#it's a system and yes gender and how we fit into the patriachy is made extremely complicated in trans circles and that's ok!#i promise it is you don't have to design a new system that cis women and trans women are using to do oppression on specifically trans mascs#we're all being fucked over by the patriachy and how the fuck does it help to be divided#but in reality let's face it i can say this all i want but the real reason i'm never going anywhere near being a transmisandry person#is because i was exposing myself to MRA-lite content at a formative age and harming myself in the process#even if i didn't know i was a trans man guess what it would have harmed me just as much if i did have that awareness#and honestly when i see transmisandry discourse all i see is that fucking triggering stuff again#all it does is nitpick whether patriachy is real with tiny examples it doesn't talk systemicly and it doesn't help men in the slightest#it pays lipservice to marginised men but it has no interest in talking about the fact that men are usually simultaenously#oppressed and oppressor at the same time- this is not accusatory it is just factual#it's true of the queer community too and basically every community#but we can't seem to talk about it without just harming each other and blaming and not seeing each other as human#the internet makes it all so much fucking worse this stuff can't exist without it#anyway i'm super rambling but these are genuinely very triggering topics for me i have unfollowed people i LOVE becuase of this#and i still love them! unfollowing on a social media isn't a referendum on that i just can't see that stuff and i need it gone from my dash
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litres-of-cocaine · 7 months ago
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okay as much as i agree that groups under the lgbtq+ umbrella are stigmatised by other people in the community please be so fr and stop calling it ‘double discrimination’ you just want to say ‘monosexual privilege’ but are aware people get kind of mad about that
#queer discourse#to clarify this isn’t about ableism racism sexism transphobia etc exhibited by people within the community#it’s more about the presentation of stigma witin the community as a disparate and equal thing to bigotry coming from outside the community#like it’s all coming from the same place guys just being wielded by other oppressed people#like lesbians do not represent a unique evil to bi women and vice versa#or trans men exhibiting transmisogny is not a result of their transmasculinity it’s white supremacy and patriarchy#it’s not a sign that these groups of people are your enemy#(disclaimer: this is completely online problem no one under the age of 14 genuinely seems to push this irl as their brains aren’t rotting)#and i’m not saying that bigotry from other queer people should be ignored bcs NO we need to be pulling each other up#but framing it as a ‘double’ discrimination instead of the same goddamn thing is just saying you’ve got it worse than everybody else#if someone attacked me for liking coffee and then a different person /also/ attacked me for liking coffee that’s not double discrimination.#that’s the same type of discrimination done by different people#we are a goddamn community force the internet leeches OUT of your brain don’t let them take you alive#it’ll suck the joy out of everything#this is largely in response to a long as text post that had some great points but this glaring welt of online behaviour in the middle of it#i’m also aware no one is going to read this i just can’t be arsed to waste any real life person’s time in discussing it#godspeed campers
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thotferatu · 9 months ago
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why does every part of my existence as a woman have to be polarizing?
why cant my body be neutral?
why cant my choice to wear or not wear makeup be neutral?
why cant my decision to have children or not be neutral?
why does every inch of my existence have to be some kind of political statement?
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comradecowplant · 1 year ago
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I would like to thank The Morning Show for feeding the millennial sapphics who always thought Elle Woods should have been with the intimidating brunette woman, I feel seen & heard 😌🙏
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freakinhorse123 · 2 years ago
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my friends are doing a presentation for pan visibility week and they asked me to help (because im panromantic) and doing a bit on misconceptions has reawakened shitty memories of seeing battle-axe bisexuals (aka panphobes) online. not having fun right now.
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crunchycrystals · 1 year ago
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i follow pjo tags that im usually fine seeing on my dash and i keep seeing people posting about some Discourse thats popped up again since the comic con card photo things came out about leah and like. i guess i curated my dash well because im seeing literally none of that
#crunchyposts#pjo#pjotv#im not tagging this with a//abeth i dont want it in my tag for her#thank god i dont follow racists and am not on reddit#the amount of people on reddit i saw who were so disappointed in them not looking like the characters#i honeslty dont really understand the gripes with them not looking like the book descriptions like any issues i had went out thewindow when#i saw actual people attached to them#i like that ann/beths black!!!!! i think it adds a lot to her character!!!!!#i dont give a shit about percys hair color!!!!!!!!!!! ive seen walker act i trust him!!!!!!!#i really dont get why people are so disappointed with it????? i saw one person say bc they had an idea of what they looked like for years#but i mean. more representation for marginalized groups#ive thought a lot about lack of rep as a queer south east asian person i was just happy there was more of it for other marginalized people#i wouldve preferred an animated show but honestly i prefer this now bc i never wouldve gotten why annabeth works better if shes black#if it was animated and they changed the race of any of them the discourse (cough and racism cough) would be 10x worse itd be awful#but like an all white cast???? i wouldnt like that either#and you KNOW the shitstorm online if they changed any major character even if it wasnt one of the main 3#anyways sorry long tags again i thought a lot about this get off my blog if you complain about any of the actors appearances i dont think w#should dictate what a childs appearance should be just for a tv show#edit actually extra thing here i think it would be kinda cool if rachel was still white so we could subvert that trope of poc love interest#being stepping stones before the main character inevitably ends up with the white main love interest#if they made it like extra clear that he was going to choose annab/th though to shut down any racism that might happen
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thatoneautisticfreak · 1 year ago
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Trans radfems on here are fucking on something man 💀💀💀💀
Theres this one mf who doesn't know why they keep getting called transphobic when they legit keep misgendering trans people and do some shitty ass trans gatekeeping to justify said misgendering and transphobia. Like. Darling. You're being labelled as transphobic because you are.
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