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you’re so hot oml
You’re too kind angel, I’m nowhere near as hot as you are.
Speaking of hot, I could use a helping hand in cooling down, men simply don’t do it as well as women unfortunately. Would you like to help me?
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If my mom sees a significant amount of blood she gets lightheaded, and has fainted on some occasions. Once it happened when we were kids, I wasn't there to witness it but I heard the story from my dad. Basically my brothers, around 7 or 8 at the time, were playing outside while my mom was making their lunch, and she accidentally cut her finger. It wasn't anything serious, but it drew a fair bit of blood and she passed out. My dad saw this and rushed over, but he didn't really know what to do so he just sort of started slapping her to wake her up (not recommended, but he had no idea and panicked)
At that exact moment my brothers both came in from playing, and all they saw was our mom unconscious on the floor and our dad slapping her. So, like, without even saying a word to each other they both just INSTANTLY start whaling on him, like, full blown attack mode to defend our mom. Which obviously didn't help the situation, but she did wake up and everything was fine.
Now our dad says that he's actually really glad they attacked him over what they thought was going on, because it means he raised good boys. And I still think that's true, they're very good boys.
#i think about this story sometimes like yeah I'm proud of them for that too actually. good job baby brothers#they're not babies anymore of course they're turning 20 next year which is crazy#but they're still the type of people who'd do something if they saw something of this sort happen for sure#respectful of women and everyone else too. they're good guys#I'm glad I ended up with them living in my house against my will for like 14 years#anyway i have no idea where i was for all this but my best guess is probably a friends house given the time period#i was always at my besties house lol#i hope she's doing well too actually. haven't spoken in forever...#bestie from greek elementary school... if you're out there... let's get muffins and fanta at the bakery across the street again someday 💜☮️
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Book recs: black science fiction
As february and black history month nears its end, if you're a reader let's not forget to read and appreciate books by black authors the rest of the year as well! If you're a sci-fi fan like me, perhaps this list can help find some good books to sink your teeth into.
Bleak dystopias, high tech space adventures, alien monsters, alternate dimensions, mash-ups of sci-fi and fantasy - this list features a little bit of everything for genre fiction fans!
For more details on the books, continue under the readmore. Titles marked with * are my personal favorites. And as always, feel free to share your own recs in the notes!
If you want more book recs, check out my masterpost of rec lists!
Lagoon by Nnedi Okorafor
Something massive and alien crashes into the ocean off the coast of Nigeria. Three people, a marine biologist, a rapper, and a soldier, find themselves at the center of this presence, attempting to shepherd an alien ambassador as chaos spreads in the city. A strange novel that mixes the supernatural with the alien, shifts between many different POVs, and gives a one of a kind look at a possible first contact.
Nubia: The Awakening (Nubia series) by Omar Epps & Clarence A. Hayes
Young adult. Three teens living in the slums of an enviromentally ravaged New York find that something powerful is awakening within them. They’re all children of refugees of Nubia, a utopian African island nation that sank as the climate worsened, and realize now that their parents have been hiding aspects of their heritage from them. But as they come into their own, someone seeks to use their abilities to his own ends, against their own people.
The Scourge Between Stars by Ness Brown
Novella. After having failed at establishing a new colony, starship Calypso fights to make it back to Earth. Acting captain Jacklyn Albright is already struggling against the threats of interstellar space and impending starvation when the ship throws her a new danger: something is hiding on the ship, picking off her crew one by one in bloody, gruesome ways. A quick, excellent read if you want some good Alien vibes.
Dawn (Xenogenesis trilogy) by Octavia E. Butler*
After a devestating war leaves humanity on the brink of extinction, survivor Lilith finds herself waking up naked and alone in a strange room. She’s been rescued by the Oankali, who have arrived just in time to save the human race. But there’s a price to survival, and it might be humanity itself. Absolutely fucked up I love it I once had to drop the book mid read to stare at the ceiling and exclaim in horror at what was going on. Includes darker examinations of agency and consent, so enter with caution.
Midnight Robber by Nalo Hopkinson*
Utterly unique in world-building, story, and prose, Midnight Robber follows young Tan-Tan and her father, inhabitants of the Carribean-colonized planet of Toussaint. When her father commits a terrible crime, he’s exiled to a parallel version of the same planet, home to strange aliens and other human exiles. Tan-Tan, not wanting to lose her father, follows with him. Trapped on this new planet, he becomes her worst nightmare. Enter this book with caution, as it contains graphic child sexual abuse.
Rosewater (The Wormwood trilogy) by Tade Thompson
In Nigeria lies Rosewater, a city bordering on a strange, alien biodome. Its motives are unknown, but it’s having an undeniable effect on the surrounding life. Kaaro, former criminal and current psychic agent for the government, is one of the people changed by it. When other psychics like him begin getting killed, Kaaro must take it upon himself to find out the truth about the biodome and its intentions.
Do You Dream of Terra-Two? by Temi Oh
Young adult. A century ago, an astronomer discovered a possibly Earth-like planet. Now, a team of veteran astronauts and carefully chosen teenagers are preparing to embark on a twenty-three year trip to get there. But space is dangerous, and the team has no one to rely on but each other if - or when - something goes wrong. An introspective slowburn of a story, this focuses more on character work than action.
The Best of All Possible Worlds by Karen Lord
After the planet Sadira is left uninhabitable, its few survivors are forced to move to a new world. On Cygnus Beta, they work to rebuild their society alongside their distant relatives of the planet, while trying to preserve what remains of their culture. Focused less on hard science or action, The Best of All Possible Worlds is more about culture, romance and the ethics and practicalities of telepathy.
Mirage (Mirage duology) by Somaiya Daud
Young adult. Eighteen-year-old Amani lives on an isolated moon under the oppressive occupation of the Valthek empire. When Amani is abducted, she finds herself someplace wholly unexpected: the royal palace. As it turns out, she's nearly identical to the half-Valthek, and widely hated, princess Maram, who is in need of a body double. If Amani ever wants to make it back home or see her people freed from oppression, she will have to play her role as princess perfectly. While sci-fi, this one more has the vibe of a fantasy.
An Unkindness of Ghosts by Rivers Solomon
Life on the lower decks of the generation ship HSS Matilda is hard for Aster, an outcast even among outcasts, trying to survive in a system not dissimilar to the old antebellum South. The ship’s leaders have imposed harsh restrictions on their darker skinned people, using them as an oppressed work force as they travel toward their supposed Promised Land. But as Aster finds a link between the death of the ship’s sovereign and the suicide of her own mother, she realizes there may be a way off the ship.
Where It Rains in Color by Denise Crittendon
The planet Swazembi is a utopia of color and beauty, the most beautiful of all its citizens being the Rare Indigo. Lileala was just named Rare Indigo, but her strict yet pampered life gets upended when her beautiful skin is struck by a mysterious sickness, leaving it covered in scars and scabs. Meanwhile, voices start to whisper in Lileala's mind, bringing to the surface a past long forgotten involving her entire society.
Eacaping Exodus (Escaping Exodus duology) by Nicky Drayden
Seske is the heir to the leader of a clan living inside a gigantic, spacefaring beast, of which they frequently need to catch a new one to reside in as their presence slowly kills the beast from the inside. While I found the ending rushed with regards to plot and character, the worldbuilding is very fresh and the overall plot of survival and class struggle an interesting one. It’s also sapphic!
Chain-Gang All-Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah*
In a near future America, inmates on death row or with life sentences in private prisons can choose to participate in death matches for entertainment. If they survive long enough - a rare case indeed - they regain their freedom. Among these prisoners are Loretta Thurwar and Hamara "Hurricane Staxxx" Stacker, partners behind the scenes and close to the deadline of a possible release - if only they can survive for long enough. As the game continues to be stacked against them and protests mount outside, two women fight for love, freedom, and their own humanity. Chain-Gang All-Stars is bleak and unflinching as well as genuinely hopeful in its portrayal of a dark but all to real possible future.
Parable of the Sower (Earthseed duology) by Octavia E. Butler*
In a bleak future, Lauren Olamina lives with her family in a gated community, one of few still safe places in a time of chaos. When her community falls, Lauren is forced on the run. As she makes her way toward possible safety, she picks up a following of other refugees, and sows the seeds of a new ideology which may one day be the saviour of mankind. Very bleak and scarily realistic, Parable of the Sower will make you both fear for mankind and regain your hope for humanity.
Binti (Binti trilogy) by Nnedi Okorafor
Young adult novella. Binti is the first of the Himba people to be accepted into the prestigious Oomza University, the finest place of higher learning in all the galaxy. But as she embarks on her interstellar journey, the unthinkable happens: her ship is attacked by the terrifying Meduse, an alien race at war with Oomza University.
War Girls (War Girls duology) by Tochi Onyebuchi
In an enviromentally fraught future, the Nigerian civil war has flared back up, utilizing cybernetics and mechs to enhance its soldiers. Two sisters, by bond if not by blood, are separated and end up on differing sides of the struggle. Brutal and dark, with themes of dehumanization of soldiers through cybernetics that turn them into weapons, and the effect and trauma this has on them.
The Space Between Worlds (The Space Between Worlds duology) by Micaiah Johnson
Multiverse travel is finally possible, but there’s a catch: No one can visit a world where their counterpart is still alive. Enter Cara, whose parallel selves happen to be exceptionally good at dying. As such she has a very special job in traveling to these worlds, hoping to keep her position long enough to gain citizenship in the walled-off Wiley City, away from the wastes where she grew up. But her job is dangerous, especially when she gets on the tracks of a secret that threatens the entire multiverse. Really cool worldbuilding and characters, also featuring a sapphic lead!
The Fifth Season (The Broken Eart trilogy) by N.K. Jemisin*
In a world regularly torn apart by natural disasters, a big one finally strikes and society as we know it falls, leaving people floundering to survive in a post apocalyptic world, its secrets and past to be slowly revealed. We get to follow a mother as she races through this world to find and save her missing daughter. While mostly fantasy in genre, this series does have some sci-fi flavor, and is genuinely some of the best books I've ever read, please read them.
The Women Could Fly by Megan Giddings*
In an alternate version of our present, the witch hunt never ended. Women are constantly watched and expected to marry young so their husbands can keep an eye on them. When she was fourteen, Josephine's mother disappeared, leveling suspicions at both mother and daughter of possible witchcraft. Now, nearly a decade and a half later, Jo, in trying to finally accept her missing mother as dead, decides to follow up on a set of seemingly nonsensical instructions left in her will. Features a bisexual lead!
The Prey of Gods by Nicky Drayden
South African-set scifi featuring gods ancient and new, robots finding sentience, dik-diks, and a gay teen with mind control abilities. An ancient goddess seeks to return to her true power no matter how many humans she has to sacrifice to get there. A little bit all over the place but very creative and fresh.
The Summer Prince by Alaya Dawn Johnson*
Young adult. Young artist June Costa lives in Palmares Tres, a beautiful, matriarchal city relying heavily on tradition, one of which is the Summer King. The most recent Summer King is Enki, a bold boy and fellow artist. With him at her side, June seeks to finally find fame and recognition through her art, breaking through the generational divide of her home. But growing close to Enki is dangerous, because he, like all Summer Kings, is destined to die.
The Blood Trials (The Blood Gifted duology) by N.E. Davenport
After Ikenna's grandfather is assasinated, she is convinced that only a member of the Praetorian guard, elite soldiers, could’ve killed him. Seeking to uncover his killer, Ikenna enrolls in a dangerous trial to join the Praetorians which only a quarter of applicants survive. For Ikenna, the stakes are even higher, as she's hiding forbidden blood magic which could cost her her life. Mix of fantasy and sci-fi. While I didn’t super vibe with this one, I suspect fans of action packed romantasy will enjoy it.
Babel-17 by Samuel R. Delany
1960s classic. Rydra Wong is a space captain, linguist and poet who is set on learning to understand Babel-17, a language which is humanity's only clue at the enemy in an interstaller war. But Babel-17 is more than just a language, and studying it may change Rydra forever.
Pet (Pet duology) by Akwaeke Emezi
Young adult novella. Jam lives in a utopian future that has been freed of monsters and the systems which created and upheld them. But then she meets Pet, a dangerous creature claiming to be hunting a monster still among them, prepared to stop at nothing to find them. While I personally found the word-building in Pet lacking, it deftly handles dark subjects of what makes a human a monster.
Bonus AKA I haven’t read these yet but they seem really cool
Lion's Blood by Steven Barnes
Alternate history in which Africans colonized South America while vikings colonized the North. The vikings sell abducted Celts and Franks as slaves to the South, one of which is eleven-years-old Irish boy Aidan O'Dere, who was just bought by a Southern plantation owner.
The Sound of Stars by Alechia Dow
Young adult dystopia. Ellie lives in a future where humanity is under the control of the alien Ilori. All art is forbidden, but Ellie keeps a secret library; when one of her books disappears, she fears discovery and execution. M0Rr1S, born in a lab and raised to be emotionless, finds her library, and though he should deliver her for execution, he finds himself obsessed with human music. Together the two embark on a roadtrip which may save humanity.
Womb City by Tlotlo Tsamaase
Lelah lives in future Botswana, but despite money and fame she finds herself in an unhappy marriage, her body controlled via microchip by her husband. After burying the body of an accidental hit and run, Lelah's life gets worse when the ghost of her victim returns to enact bloody vengeance.
Orleans by Sherri L. Smith
Young adult. Fen de la Guerre, living in a quarantined Gulf Coast left devestated by storms and sickness, is forced on the run with a newborn after her tribe is attacked. Hoping to get the child to safety, Fen seeks to get to the other side of the wall, she teams up with a scientist from the outside the quarantine zone.
Everfair by Nisi Shawl
A neo-victorian alternate history, in which a part of Congo was kept safe from colonisation, becoming Everfair, a safe haven for both the people of Congo and former slaves returning from America. Here they must struggle to keep this home safe for them all.
The Splinter in the Sky by Kemi Ashing-Giwa
Space opera. Enitan just wants to live a quiet life in the aftermath of a failed war of conquest, but when her lover is killed and her sister kidnapped, she's forced to leave her plans behind to save her sister.
Honorary mentions AKA these didn't really work for me but maybe you guys will like them: The City We Became (Great Cities duology) by N.K. Jemisin, The Lesson by Cadwell Turnbull, The A.I. Who Loved Me by Alyssa Cole
#nella talks books#lagoon#nubia the awakening#the scourge between stars#xenogenesis#midnight robber#rosewater#do you dream of terra two?#the best of all possible worlds#mirage#an unkindness of ghosts#where it rains in color#escaping exodus#chain gang all stars#parable of the sower#binti#war girls#the space between worlds#the fifth season#the women could fly#the prey of gods#the summer prince#the blood trials#babel 17#pet
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Hehe hiii samurai shiver Hii um!!
Also yes I designed the tattoos from scratch and I still gotta do the one on her back 😪
#art#fanart#my art#original art#another AU guys#holy shit the amount of time this took#not even effort just time#Splatoon au#Splatoon samurai au#work in progress#because I’m not sure yet about this au or wtf am I gonna do with it#mmmmmsfnsdjngw women with tattoos#OH this was originally a yakuza au. yk the mafia#but Idk how to include Frye and big man and the others in that so eeehhh ❌❌❌❌#shiver Splatoon#Splatoon shiver#shiver hohojiro#Splatoon fanart#Splatoon fan art#Splatoon art#Splatoon shiver fanart#shiver fanart#no this is definitely not inspired by blue eye samurai nonononononono who said that#she’s so zesty tho#and a cold killer. GOD I love women have I mentioned that before#by the way the Sarashi is down there because if it was higher we wouldn’t be able to see the tattoos and especially the oni head#oni heads are the best bro Onis are the best I love Onis sm like ohhh#yokai jskdbvjdwbjifwdbojsdf I love LOVE JAPANESE FOLKLORE AND UH YEAH MYTHOLOGY WHATEVER#help#wake up sweetie seryo got bored again
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FNAF Vanny 🤝 TADC Pomni: being bullied by a rabbit
#myart#chloesimagination#comic#fnaf#tadc#fnaf vanny#fnaf vanessa#tadc jax#tadc pomni#tadc gangle#tadc caine#glitchtrap#security breach#fnaf help wanted#digital circus#fnaf fanart#tadc fanart#five nights at freddy's#the amazing digital circus#Vanny and Pomni could get along with each other#they have similar pain and problems#both got that fuck ass rabbit bothering them#Who loves to make them commit some sorta violence (or at least try)#glitch and Jax just wants to see people get hurt FOR fun 🎉#what’s their problem? probably many things#gotta love your pathetic women just doing their best 💜💜
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why is it "this is what happens when you tell white boys they're devils :(" when it comes to the white male alt right pipeline but no one calls for empathy for uneducated right wing white women. what about the high school girl to isolated stay at home mom pipeline. where is their loneliness epidemic
#how come i never see ''this is what happens when you tell white girls they exist to give white men sons :(''#it's ''how do we reach today's young white men :(('' but no one has tips for reaching right wing women#why is that i wonder#i feel deeply betrayed by female class traitors and have done my best to understand why they are the way they are#but they're a lost cause and white men aren't because women are not complex human beings#and men are just so sensitive you don't understand
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unsurprisingly, i will not be supporting taeil or anyone who remains close with him going forward. if there is an attempt to make this about fanwars or similar, i will also disengage. all this is about is the victim and their safety. to make it about anything else is disingenuous, callous, and cruel. morality comes over any kind of gotcha, and to use suffering to justify prior opinions or uplift others will not be tolerated here.
#i'm not even really surprised or disappointed i'm just angry. i've been seeing all the news from feminists doing their best to translate and#spread ongoings and the way men with platforms (i.e. youtubers) threaten their lives for it. so i hope for the victim's peace and safety and#that one day south korean women will be safe in their homes
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sam nightingale fabian seacaster deeply tethered in the sense that whenever zelda & gorgug broke up i think they both were very emotionally supportive and there for their friend while also having clearly & openly thought the whole time that zelda/gorgug could’ve done better. also they’re both rich popular bards with talking vehicles who got left alone in their big house at the beginning of a school year so there’s that.
#fabian seacaster#sam nightingale#fantasy high#the seven#dimension 20#fhjy spoilers#fhjy#d20 the seven#thistlecaster#bc duh#idk what the samzelda ship name is tho#samzelda#the seven is so fun bc truly every day i wake up & am like ‘samzelda? samantiope? antioyelle? who knows’#katja & ostentatia ARE soulmates though so mark that down#need to do a rewatch at some point it was so good & fun & i love women! i love women! in both a gay & feminist way!#anyways#sam fabian bitchy bisexual solidarity & hostility. To Me#wait also. non biological mothers rebecca & cathilda who both lost their own kids and are trying their best to take care of these ones…
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I think alotta ppl forget that dennis canonically is the best at drawing of the gang nd just focus on charlie being the artist of the gang, nd idk maybe i just wanted to slip that into ur mind
Like i have this funny scenario in my head where charlie challenges dennis to a drawing competition nd dennis draws a near realistic portrait of charlie while charlie vaguely scribbles out dennis but the rest of the gang is just like 'omg charlie i didnt know u cud draw'
art is subjective
#iasip#always sunny#charden#charlie kelly#dennis reynolds#mac mcdonald#trash trio#i understand wat ur saying bt i wdnt call den th best i cant look @ his boobacious women w.o crying#nd ther r several charlie arts i WISH i owned like th rat king nd th alligator @ his cricket art showcase FUCK SO HARD#this is a hilarious concept tho tysm i lovd doing this bless u fr sending :))#sorry i drew them as kids and not th whole gang fdkjn i tweaked ur idea [dennis hand motion 🤏👌🤏👌🤏]#ask#anon
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I've seen this many times over with cis acquaintances—and not even just acquaintances, also my own cis relatives, and other trans people's cis relatives—who are “Pro-Trans” and sooo very accepting and supportive etc.
....who then have a baby and proceed to happily announce the gender assignment at birth, or even before birth. and other cis people (including the other very “supportive” ones) just congratulate them on news of the epic gender assignment. and they say this in front of you or directly to you without even blinking, not showing even the most faint comprehension that this may not be taken so lightly or as such a wonderful social determination by a trans person
but yeah, “it's a boy”, wow so great for you! what's that cousin dipshit, you're telling me that's just what you wanted? gosh, everything has a way of working out for the best, thank you for sharing that, I hope you can also make them match your furniture
#if anyone comes on to this post with “why do you Hate Women / you obviously hate mothers just trying their best” I will kill you#transphobia#trans#lgbt
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we seriously need a bigger movement of women refusing to date and have sex with men right now ; feminism won't get anywhere as long as women do not take this kind of radical actions. i know it's a complicated topic since even "radical" feminists on here think it's too much and won't do it but i believe it's essential for women's liberation.
making sure men have access to women's bodies is the patriarchy's priority. in its head, that's what women are made for. that's why we are born. we exist to sleep with men - or should i say, to let men fuck us -, to marry them - become their servant and private prostitute - , to give them kids. it's one of the roots of the patriarchy. if we want to destroy the patriarchy, we have to destroy the roots. we have to destroy this root.
in history, feminism got somewhere everytime women took big actions against the patriarchy. posts are good, little actions help, but we need to make real noise. de frapper un grand coup. this way, we will be safer, and the patriarchy will be severly wounded.
#i know many women are already doing it#the best example i know being south Korean women#but it needs to get bigger#and it needs to appear in countries where women almost don't do it#radblr#radical feminism#radfem safe#radfem#radical feminist safe#radical feminists please touch#radical feminists do touch#rad fem#radical feminist#radical feminist community#radfeminism
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Love a female character who does illegal acts and is living her best life. Look at her killing people and smiling. Honestly, this is the best time she's ever had. Probably the best version of herself. Yeah ignore the viscera in the corner. Oh she just announced she's killing someone/ everyone? That's cool I mean look at her! This is the best her life has ever been! She had character development into a worse person (to other people) and a danger to society but this is the best she's ever felt before!!
#god forbid women do anything#I mean seriously villain characters who are their best selves are interesting. You want to root for them. You have seen their past and thei#struggles and you know that they have earned this in some way. Morally this isn't great and yeah she's a danger to society but this is a wi#all at once#this post is about:#grace chasity#madalena#madalena galavant#cinder fall#salem rwby#and there's probably more but those are the ones i'm thinking of#grace chasity npmd#nerdy prudes must die#galavant#rwby
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Serierei yuri? 👀
ask and ye shall receive
#doctorsiren#mob psycho 100#reigen arataka#serizawa katsuya#serirei#girl psycho 100#mp100 fanart#digital art#my art#procreate#doodle requests#I LOVE WOMEN ‼️‼️‼️#I think Reigen would do Serizawa’s makeup and Serizawa would love the personal attention of it#like Serizawa gets to be a doll for Reigen in the best way#just letting Reigen yap about whatever while she glams her up#because neither of them got to have sleepovers like that as kids so they do it now
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Mom-mercs! Ma, mama, maw, and mum.
#crawling my way out of art block. Rahhhhh#old women 🥶🥶😳#nobody knows if ma is a good mom or not in canon since it’s never confirmed#But I like to think she did her best and believes that she gave them a happy childhood#however she’s yet to come to terms with how said childhood wasn’t perfect despite how hard she tried because of the absence of their father#(among other things out of her control)#maw’s in a grey area of good parent v bad parent#mama and mum have been canonically confirmed to be good parents. Massive w#tf2#art#how do I even TAG these characters#whatever#tf2 scout#tf2 heavy#tf2 sniper#tf2 demoman#quotidianish#tf2 fanart#team fortress 2#HOLY SHIT 1K NOTES?? WHAT#mom mercs#tf2 au
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i would all too happily sell my soul to the devil to see eve in an entirely, unadulteratedly, very queer and very sapphic film 😭😭😭
#if i can’t have my own moment like this with eve i don’t want to live anymore 😭#i volunteer#take me with you#why am i like this#i love her your honor#i do be simpin#eve best#middle aged actresses#house of the dragon#as cate blanchett once said oh you mean the gaze not the gays lmao#women in suits#🫦#i am but a silly little sapphic
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"this event will only let in cis women and afab people!!! obviously this is the transmascs fault" And why the hell do you want to go to the event that doesn't acknowledge trans people as their gender? why do you want to be around terfs and radical feminists and transphobic cis women? why do you think WE want to go to those? do you think that's really going to be a safe space for anyone other than cis women? do you think we'll be able to relate to most of the experiences of cis women, without discussing how it intersects with a trans identity, and do you expect cis women to understand that intersectionality? Ok exactly
#💙 cass#transandrophobia#you guys arent very bright i must say#do you think trans people enjoy being reduced down to their genitals? no? ok well there you go.#these aren't events targeted at us and they arent events that have our best interests in mind.#if they DID or WERE#then they would most likely be more focused on how oppression specifically targets us#and NOT how it targets cis women-- which (the latter) is usually the case witht hese types of things.#i don't think any trans man wants to be in a room full of exclusively cis (usually white) women#trying to talk over him about things he can't relate to
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