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I am absolutely OBSESSED with tweos and claudrien, but I have to ask: is there anyone in canon you actually ship Adrien with? Love square or otherwise (especially otherwise). Or is everyone else just meh?

Can’t wait for more tweos updates btw!!!!!!

YEAHHHHHH CLAUDRIEN NATION GAINS A NEW CITIZENNNN (follow me so i can add you to the roster bestie <3)

I don't think I will ever be 100% down for any of the lovesquare lol. I'm not really sure why? Cause I used to think it just didn't have the 'right drama' to it, but then you see fics like FaOLL and they give it that and it's just... still not it to me? Maybe the lovesquare just needs homoerotic/cannibalistic vibes for me to be into it XD

As for other canon... Adribrina has grown on me. This is entirely @generalluxun and @lazyartist16s's doing, I will admit. If I can't have my boy be a melodramatic freak, then I'll at least let him be cute and adorable with someone who would truly appreciate him. Also it's a fellow cat/dog ship, so I physically, legally have to stan.

ok ok as for updates: it's been a long time coming because ch52 is heavy, and i've gotten stuck on a few things chief of which is I'm not sure how directly I want to describe gabriel lashing out at adrien. it's not for very long, buuuuut considering how difficult the Valentine's Day WIP is, I definitely have a lower tolerance for writing skin-crawling stuff than I think. (I think the relative ease that I churned out Ch37 is the cause of this delusion lol)

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Is it wrong that I'm hoping episode 4 will open with a shot of Sublime's legs hanging on Marinette's wall like a hunting trophy?

GIRL WHAT 💀 i don't think they would allow that to air.... i. what

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Would Adrien like danganronpa? I feel like he would resiate with some of the characters (junko, Makoto, and maybe nagito?)

it would be really tempting to say 'yes'... but i think it's complicated! if you showed it to him, he would probably dismiss it offhand because he's from 2008 and it's some weird anime shit. but if you made it a decent novel and lied to him about its origins he'd eat that shit up. he'd read the entire anthology in a single night.

also I think he'd be a stickler about properly pronouncing everything in japanese and saying everyone's last name first cause i find that funny. it'd be jarring to hear him ranting about the series in ludicrously fast French only for his voice to drop a few tones every time he says 「弾丸の精査」 without skipping a beat

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Ozybath AU: So what is the public perception of Ozymandias and Sabbath?

Ozybath!Paris has a lot less foot traffic, partially due to strict curfews and partially due to demon akuma possession being, as far as anybody knows.... lethal*. Because of this, civilians rarely witness akuma fights, so not enough people really know that Oz and Sabby are fighting against the akumas. *Is this because Hawkmoth Salmatis's powers work a little differently, or because Ozymandias and Sabbath suck at their job... Both, actually! Ozymandias is rarely ever seen out in public, and would vehemently turn down any opportunity to talk with the public if anybody even wanted him to: Being the Guardian of Arcane Knowledge means you keep that shit secret, damnit! But if he was out and about, most people would assume he's some whack job who got lost on his way to a Renaissance Fair or a Dracula Night at the local goth club. It's a pity, because he'd be ecstatic to see people actively trying to avoid him for once...

Sabbath, unfortunately, is seen out in public much more often. She's overworked both as a hero and as a civilian and has a tendency to fall asleep before she can even get home, so she'll sometimes wake up face down on a park bench in the middle of the day. People usually assume she's a cosplayer of some sort, so it's not uncommon for people to try to take pictures of her, poor girl.

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tell us of the failed adrientte plz

Okay, so we have to go into the TWEOS lore with this one, irrefutable fact:

Adrien and Marinette were supposed to be made for each other.

This is because, like in canon, the miraculouses work better with strong bonds and like. In canon Adrinette is brought up multiple times to be the best relation to ever ship. In TWEOS, this is basically the kwamis playing matchmaker with their paper dolls. Because, in essence, that is what all holders are to them.

This is why both Marinette and Adrien display obsessive tendencies, albeit towards different people—The idea was that they'd latch onto one person (each other), and then it would stick.

Instance 1: Marinette latched onto Adrien long before she ever got her Miraculous.

The issue: She latched onto the idea of him marketed by Gabriel. No umbrella scene whatsoever. Adrien is her celebrity crush that she loves as if she's been in a years-long committed relationship.

Instance #2: Adrien latched onto... Claudia.

The issue: Not Marinette. Very much not Marinette. Despite everything any of the kwamis (or anyone else in Adrien's life) could ever do to pry him away from Claudia, Adrien will refuse to budge. He was practically designed to be a codependent partner, and it will show.

Next point—Because Adrinette is endgame, neither Marinette nor Adrien can have a fulfilling relationship before that. So Luka, Marinette's "fake" boyfriend, is an asshole who wants to have his cake of the Viperbug celebrity pairing and also be a womanizing local rockstar. Likewise, Kagami, Adrien's betrothed, never clicks with him, and her limited perspective means she's unwilling to fully relate to him without reflecting on the ways her mother has lied to her.

(There's also parallels between Kagami and Marinette in terms of their view of Adrien, even though the reverse between Luka and Adrien isn't as strong since Adrien has never really considered Marinette as a romantic interest. —unless, of course, that's the parallel in which case we found it!)

"But Wis, Claudia and Adrien are working out?"

...............eh. I can't even safely say they don't make each other worse, just that they're not getting worse alone. Also, by the point that Claudia and Adrien accept that they're a thing (and Claudia starts to close off because she suddenly realizes her flirtations have consequences), the scaffolding is already crumbling and also on fire. It would take a miracle for Adrinette to be healthy at that point, and yet Plagg and Tikki are still trying to get the Adrinette train back on track.

But they will fail.

@nocturnal-notes , because you like when i analyze my own stuff!

(other claudrien nation tags possibly pending, if i think it'd be worth it)

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Pimple Asker here. Shortly after I posted that, I fell half-asleep and dreamt of vast rooms with bright shiny metal floors and dark surfaces that were sometimes plastic, sometimes leather. There were countless stainless steel nails, sticking up from the floor, growing and shrinking across the floor like ripples in a pond. As I visualised them, it was as if they were entering my brain, accompanied by a visceral static sound between my ears.

I think this is a divine punishment.

yeah sounds about right. that was hell you just visited, and you were sent there for a little timeout to think about your actions, and the effects they have on people.

confess your identity to me and maybe, just maybe, i will have it in my heart to forgive you.

...but he won't.

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Sentitrio (Adrien, Kagami, Felix) are 100% autistic coded. However I'd absolutely argue that they're all queer coded too, either sexuality-wise or gender-wise. I have no doubt about that

I'd love to hear that argument! (Not that I would, like, argue argue. I'd just want to hear your thoughts. I like talking to people about these things :3 )

I also do agree that they're autistic-coded, even if that doesn't translate to Adrien himself being explicitly a teacher's pet type or "gifted" outside of the many talents he takes lessons for (and even that could be explained as the result of rigorous tutoring and not necessarily a natural result of being a savant). I will say that I specifically headcanon Adrien as AuDHD (as I've mentioned in this post), but you'd have to get back to me later on whether I think Kagami or Felix are the same.

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which tweos character would use a ouija board to try commune with the recently deceased chat noir?

Juleka and Rose would do it after getting hammered one night. Luka would know he's not dead but spam Marinette with texts about it just to fuck with her. Marinette would read these and actually believe for a moment that Chat is dead after all and that this proves she is also somehow psychic now.

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Btw how old is claudia/the cast of tweos?

18-19. Adrien turns 19 during March of '09 (which will probably be in very late part 2), whereas character like Claudia and Luka are '89 babies and as such are already 19

(Now that I think about it, Luka would likely turn 20 over the course of the story if I keep his birthday in Feb... I will admit most of the side characters have malleable birthdays lolol)

The major birthdays/ages that I know for a fact will stick are:

Adrien: March 13th, 1990 (18-19)

Claudia: August 28th, 1989 (19)

Marinette: July 7th, 1990 (18)

Originally I was going to have the cast be 17-18, but even with the minimal level of adult stuff that happens in TWEOS (which is mostly kept implicit and for the themes instead of like... spice for the sake of it, which i doubt i will ever do), it felt a little too murky for my liking. Still, the transition to adulthood and becoming your own person as you break away from your parents is still a big theme, so it wouldn't make much sense for me to make them all any older than 19, imo. Adrien just probably got held back an extra year due to his homeschooling being too specific to his talents rather than covering the basics lol.

But yeah, assume the main cast is 18 or around there. Other than the kwamis, but they sort of transcend age anyways lol