#why do people hate and even want to kill the women in this game so bad đ its so weird
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Kenny and Violet anon here YES.
Violet is upset because someone she defended against her found family of 8 years let her get taken by brainwashing adults for 2 seconds and everyone flips their lid.
But Kenny refuses to stop a train, and gets into a whole fight with Lee over it (AND REFUSES TO HELP YOU FIND A LOST LITTLE GIRL WHILE YOUâRE FIGHTING OFF AN INFECTION, where as Violet always defends you in Episode 1 regardless of whether you ignored and/or antagonized her or not), and gets mad at an 11 year old for not being able to handle helping someone in labor by herself and everybodyâs like âNah itâs okay, his family died years ago so he gets to do whatever he wants.â as if Violet didnât witness one of the only consistent family members in her life die in front of her đ
Thereâs so many comparisons I could make and one day Iâll make a Venn Diagram about all of their similarities but for now Iâm glad someone pointed this out.
there are some things kenny does that have No excuse (like refusing to help bitten lee look for missing clem all because hes mad you didnt side with him enough. leaving lee to singlehandedly save himself in the pharmacy because he got scared. threatening to slap clem for blaming herself for lees death. off the top of my head). but his behavior on the train is annoying yet understandable. he doesnt want to admit his son is dying and he feels like duck dying in the first place is his fault for not saving shawn. you can convince him to stop without things getting physical
the Problem comes in when people can understand and sympathize with kennys annoying/shitty actions, but when it comes to violet (who has the same "my family is dead and its made me bitter and closed off" backstory (and her whole arc is about learning to love and care again)), suddenly all understanding goes out the window. even tho shes not even a FRACTION as annoying and shitty as kenny can get đđ
violet is mean to clem for the One scene where youre introduced to her (ignoring your first moment with her in the courtyard where shes smiling at clem so you already know her shitty attitude later is a lie. louis even defends her. wingman lol. and depending on what you say in response to her you can Immediately see the regret on her face LOL). but before the scene even Ends shes complimenting clem and clem loves it. then youre forced to talk to her and tenn about the twins, you have a nice card game where you can joke around with her, then she shows up at the dorm and they have a nice heart to heart about how theyre BOTH struggling with the loss of people theyve loved, and they can sympathize about both being harsher than they intend (THEY GET EACH OTHER CANONICALLY)
and vi not being "a people person" is a huge part of her arc?? she doesnt like that shes like this đ but shes also better with people than she gives herself credit for and its why she makes a good leader. (and even if you pick the "came off strong" option clem is OBVIOUSLY teasing about it but vi cant tell and gets defensive ("its not like im trying to be bffs or whatever. sorry" is so "you want to kiss me so bad it makes you look stupid" of her)
and then after this shes never mean to clem again?? (unless you antagonize her but even then its mostly just about her standing her ground and not taking shit she doesnt deserve. which is fair). shes only mean to brody while fishing (and shes mean to brody because deep down she blames HERSELF) and the whole POINT of that scene is to try and mend their broken relationship which immediately makes vi a happier/nicer person if you do (also interesting how louis doesnt get any shit for His behavior while hunting đ€š no hes just cool and fun). violet also apologizes for being "weird" in the dorms the previous night as well (bby girl why are you afraid that everything you do is weird đ she says that word a lot)
violet will Always have clems back (in EP1 and 2!!) No Matter What you do or say to her. i think people take her loyalty for granted. so if you dont save her in EP2 and expect to continue to have her unwavering loyalty in EP3? thats a You problem. she is Fucked Up mentally on that boat by lilly and her not-exactly-ex, and then gets caught in the explosion she didnt want anything to do with. AND THEN SHE APOLOGIZES because she recognizes she was WRONG
(not her literally trying to make a joke about it to ease the tension đ people dont give her credit for also having a sense of humor. like louis is the only one who cracks jokes around here) but again when it comes to kenny his actions are understandable and defendable even without an apology đ i literally side with kenny on Everything except the larry thing and if you dont make the right dialogue choice with him? he will not help you look for clem. because of larry đ i killed your son for you bro and then took care of his walker doppelganger so you didnt have to. and this isnt even touching his behavior in S2. and yet despite everything he does hes still one of the most beloved characters in the fandom đ€š
i just have to remind myself sometimes that all vi options were made 53-61% and the vi haters are a loud minority. her always being above 50% is so interesting to me because i love when choices are split perfectly 50/50. but the way the fandom talks about her (and the women in general) you wouldnt think shes technically the more popular option (and i Hate playing the popularity card its so annoying, but im only doing it bc people also say shit like "maybe if vi wasnt so mean more people would pick her" they DO pick her!!! you just got mad she was mean for 5 seconds, never payed attention to her again, and used her determinate reaction on the boat as justification for not liking her đ) (also ignores how mean louis gets in EP2 regardless of choice?? but like kenny His actions are defendable and sympathetic and hers arent đ)
#again just in case people cant tell I LIKE ALL OF THEM they are all interesting characters!!! but some of you only give grace to the men#vi i will defend you until i die because Someone has to#why do people hate and even want to kill the women in this game so bad đ its so weird#im literally just asking yall to Not hate her so vehemently when you LOVE male characters who do the same or much worse#its just weird all the excuses that exist for the men but when its a woman? shes just a bitch. why do the men get to be bitches đ#the game is Intentionally very even between vi and louis' reactions but for some reason hes defendable/sympathetic and shes not#someone pretty much ended up proving my point on my last ask about this without even realizing it đ#but i didnt even know where to begin. so i was so glad to get this ask almost immediately after hdskfjkd#also the numbers im using are TFS numbers not DE numbers. ive noticed the DE numbers are fandom skewed idek what they are for S4#i dont think i have much more to say about this and im afraid the men only defenders are gonna start coming out of the walls#i love you fucked up women of twdg :)#if anyone tries to defend the male characters on this post im gonna lose it. they dont need your help!!!#replies with lexi#incognito#twdg
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Everybody does the exact same stupid shit. That white nationalist anon I was getting a while ago would send me story after story of some random black guy or immigrant committing a violent crime against a white person. Well, yeah, people are violent, you're gonna find those if you go looking for them. And there's a lot of racial animosity in the world, so you'll even find racially charged ones if you go looking! No shit, Sherlock. We could play this game all day. You find me a news story of a black guy killing a white guy, I find you a news story of white guy killing a black guy. This does no one any good.
TERFs are identical. News story after news story of a trans woman raping somebody. Yeah, the world is an awful place and people rape each other. I can find you a news story of a cis woman raping a teenage boy and getting three months in jail. I can find you a news story of a cis mom killing her disabled kid cause they're too much work. But I don't want to. The world sucks shit, why gorge yourself on the tragedy?
Zionists come up with news story after news story of pro-Palestinian/BDS/whatever protestors being antisemitic. Yep. A lot of people out there hate Jews. And there has been a genuine rise in antisemitism since the Oct. 7th attack, and that's awful. There are no excuses for that. Do you know what else has happened since then? The Israeli military has slaughtered tens of thousands of Palestinians, including huge numbers of innocent civiliansâmen, women and children.
People are often terrible to each other. Welcome to Earth. If you go looking for bad actors in a big enough group, you are guaranteed to find them. How about this. What about all the black people who didn't kill a white little girl? What about the black little girls? What about their hopes and dreams? What about their chance at life? What about all the trans women who didn't rape anybody in a bathroom? What if they just want to go about their lives, without constant public scrutiny of what genitals they have (as a cis woman, can you empathize with that? Constant public scrutiny of what you're doing with your genitals?). What about the 30,000 Palestinians who have been killed, and the 70,000 who have been displaced from their homes?
Fear has made you a monster. Fear has driven you to demand slaughter and oppression of innocent people because they look like guilty people you read about on the news, and since they look the same to you, you feel fearfulâhow can you tell whether these are the innocent ones or the guilty ones? Best to oppress and slaughter them preemptively just to be safe. I am here to tell you that this twisted logic of self-defense does not hold. I do not care if you feel safeâI do not care if you are safeâif the cost of your safety is innocent life. The world is a risky place. I am not going to deny that. Horrible things could happen to any of us. If we go around preemptively attacking other over it, we do not make it a bit better. And, needless to say, danger comes from everywhere, from every group of human beings, and oppressing the people who make you nervous will not, in fact, deliver you from danger. It just makes you a monster.
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since we're talking about call outs lately, i've been called out many times, most of which are made from lies and sometimes by altering screenshots, but the most effective call out i ever got was like, in early 2015 there was a tumblr user everyone knew was a terf, but she would say "actually i support trans women" this was before crypto terfs were as talked about so the language wasn't really there to say "hey this person is a crypto terf." but yeah some people put posts of this woman on my dash and i made a random post on my blog "why do yall reblog her shes a terf" and of course she searches her own name daily, found my post, and replied to it that me calling her a terf was racist. that was it. no other interaction. but she went on all night talking about me being racist and just making things up as she went "oh i bet she says the n word all the time irl" kind of shit that had, like no basis? But her follower base took it 100% and i literally had thousands of anons telling me to kill myself, trying to goad me into being racist (didnt work), and the most concerning thing was i got hundreds of anons being like "what was the point of doing hrt if you still look like that, you should kill yourself." It was like, violent and overwhelming. and on top of it I'd get random young teenager trans people who followed her and bought into her bioessentialism showing up in my messages being like "you give trans people a bad name" "you're why transphobia exists" etc etc it was fucking crazy.
but i lost like, no followers because everyone around me understood, this woman was a terf. this all set up the real one though.
later in the year a teenage "communist" trans girl made some snarky comment about me being racist on a post of mine blowing up. i ignored her cuz like, who cares it's just some random teenager. but i guess people were looking for a reason to hate me cuz that blew up, lots of people just took that at face value no need to investigate. when someone finally did send the girl an ask being like "hey how is she racist" she replied "I dont remember but I know she is" and even more people just took this as 100%. the thing is, i do remember her being one of those "you make trans people look bad" terf following young trans people, it's not that she didn't remember, it's that she didnt want to admit she followed a terf and she believed a terf just saying shit. I lost like 3/4s of my followers, i had a lot of people i thought were my friends just stop talking to me, and going forward every time i got a call out there would usually be a line of like "also she's racist, everyone already knows this" all cuz this girl needed to make a snarky comment cuz she just loves terfs.
the thing about the "i dont remember" bit is it made some weird game of telephone. "I dont remember" became "oh she's racist, i think she says the n word" which became "she called black bloggers the n word" like people just made shit up about me and connected it to this call out. and when id be like this isnt true id be met with a "this is just known, youre a known racist" and it's like, to this day i will still find people be like "hey good on you for growing as a person and not doing that any more" and its like I NEVER DID IT TO BEGIN WITH
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Night in the Net // Shigaraki x f! reader (18+)
Synopsis: You find yourself stranded in one hell of a sexist environment: the small town's internet café. Shigaraki's on the night shift. (3.6k)
Warnings: sex with Shiggy basically, mild degradation and misogyny from our fav incel, dom!Shiggy with a twist (no quirk obviously), use of âdollfaceâ (i like it)
A/N: No dark themes here, peace n luv. Also.. yeah he is always linked to some gaming/electronic business ik!! but I like the trope/hc/almost canon.
You'd never imagine this was how your night would end.
Why are you there again? Right, your friends wanted to go to that after party, as if the club wasn't enough. What was supposed to be a night out ended up with you in the local internet cafĂ© (the only after hours spot) while your friends decided to go to a house party with loud techno music, which definitely wasnât your vibe. You and your friends lived close and would often call a taxi on your way home, money wasnât enough for you to ride solo today thoughâyou prayed in times like these that you at least had a job; you wouldnât have to rely on anyone then.Â
You knew pretty much everyone there, itâs not like the town had more than ten thousand residents and considering the age group and schools youâd all gone to, the internet cafĂ© only had a few unknown members. On todayâs shift was none other than Tomura of course, that guy was taking up as many shifts as his body would allow him to, apparently there was this rumor a family member was in crucial condition and they were in need. Tomura Shigaraki was one of these people you had branded as incel. Though hardworking (he kept a house of his own, cleaning and doing all chores by himself while providing for whomever he had), you still considered the guy as one. Nowâyou know the term is heavy, matter of fact, quite offending and serious as an allegation but itâs not like there werenât rumors. Rumors heâd bash women and call them prostitutes, try to sleep with girls and trash them to his friends a day later, hating them for anything they did and claiming true love didnât exist nowadays because âall women are sluts, who need money and validation.â Plus, he worked at the local internet cafĂ© (should be enough reason), engaging in heated conversations with his friends and fellow streamers. God, one look in their chats and you'd get as violent as possibleâ (not much, you'd discovered it the hard way). Thus, it was no surprise that when you enter the place, you hear whispers and scoffs.
ââThe hell are you doing here?ââ A voice was heard from within, the cafĂ© had the computer screens up front, a bar and a couch with TV in the back. Tomura was occupied in the designated bar the place had (you often wondered what kind of needs these people hadâall they ever consumed was energy drinks and pre-packaged meals, takeouts were for reasons of competitive market prohibited).
ââJust dropping by for a couple of hours, will leave soon.ââ You sigh as you take a seat on the couch, not bothering to talk to anyone, it wasnât like they cared anyway. Loud noise and laughter can be heard all around, a couple of guys swearing and some younger boys excitedly standing above their screens. The store had a 16+ policy, but of course, no one ever checked so kids could practically stare unattended. Tomura also encouraged younger boys to play, such a piece of shit, you think, getting them to learn young.Â
ââOh my fucking God, a slut just joined!ââ You hear some guy swear, presumably because a girl joined their online server. These guys were so disgusting, you cringe, it was no wonder they were celibate without wanting it. You stand up, you need to kill some time and you're feeling bored, you think about starting a fight with Tomura, how else could you have a little bit of fun?
You werenât ever necessarily afraid of the guy, even though you had to admit, he looked intimidating. Quite tall with a pale complexion, ashy, dull hair and scars across his face; no one actually knew much about him and whether he was troubled, itâs not like he ever showed to work beaten up or high and usually kept a low profile. The only frightening thing this man had was his smile, it terrified you sometimes as it looked downright evil.Â
ââGetting them to learn young, huh?ââ You ask him, heâs washing up some cups from the previous round of gross gaming guys, who have now left.
ââWhat?ââ He responds, not bothering to look up.Â
ââHow to not get women, I mean.ââ You sigh as he huffs in annoyance.
ââYou should be grateful I let a female in my store in the first place.ââ He retorts, but doesnât seem very angry, just ironic. Usual.
My store (you decide to skip over 'female') sounds funny but you choose not to comment on it.Â
ââSo how long until you guys close?ââ You don't bother with the vocabularyâitâs routine at this point. It also never ends well and you had a great night so far, why ruin it now?
ââTwo hours.ââÂ
ââMind if I sit on the couch? Iâll be quiet I promiseââ You askâtechnically beg, as you see no other options.
ââUgh.. yeah I mind. Thereâs some guys wanting to use it, I have a group for GTA on the PS5.ââ
ââSeriously? People still play that?ââ You whine but force yourself to continue.
 ââCan I sit with you then?ââ It takes strengthâbut you say it regardless. You came to terms with the fact he was your last resort minutes ago.
ââSure. But you need to make yourself useful. Here, take this.ââ He hands you a wet sponge, ââWash these up... carefully, while I go clean the floors.ââ He orders, as if youâre part of the staff (and new on the job apparently.)
ââDo you actually want me to wash freaking dishes? I just came here to chill, I donât even bother anyone!ââ You start feeling annoyed with the chores, you arenât 16 and he isnât your mom.
ââYou can always leave.ââ The running tap stops and he turns to you, practically shoving the wet gloves on your chest.Â
ââOr...you can stop being a brat and be of use during your stay, I have two hours left.ââ He smiles, that same smile that makes your skin crawl and blood boil as he moves away.
ââFuck! My dress, you asshole!ââ A wet patch now covers the too short dress as you glance at the time on your phone.Â
Two hours. Two hours until your friends leave and he closes up anyway.
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Tomura was at least true to his words. Within two insufferable hours of having to listen to appalling conversations between men (hardly to be considered as such), plate washing and the toilet being constantly occupied, the last customers get up to leave.Â
You dry your hands and plop down the couch exhausted.
ââFinally.ââ You exhale checking your phone, your friends hadnât given you any life signs in the meantime, so you decide to patiently wait, theyâd message eventually. Tomura is done sweeping the nasty floors from crumbs and dried Monster remnants, which he still has to mop (for the fourth time, you note and you've only been there some hours). You notice how restless he seemsâthe guy has been running the whole night after ignorant customers, who had not once shown basic respect for the order of the place yet never complained. Truly a shame he has such a misogynistic mindset, you think. He could get women, if he wanted to.Â
Itâs around 6:30 AM, when he presses a button to close the store's roll-up shutters halfway. Small light outside makes its way in but the place is still relatively dark, as he places the mop near the wall and takes a seat next to you.
ââFuuck, Iâm so tired.ââ He sighs, making sure to spread his legs on the couch as much as he can, not caring (of course) about you also sitting on it.Â
You always branded Tomura as an incel, that you knew about. But despite that, you now canât help but feel for him, not knowing much about him at the same time. Sure, he technically isnât the nicest guy but a look around would show you that he tries enough for a job kicking his ass. You find yourself sympathizing with a man, whose ideals you hate and try to brush these thoughts off.
ââAnd why the fuck am I an incel anyway?ââ He asks, his head rests on the couch and his eyes are closed, he is scrunching severelyâalmost threatening to fall down. And he manspreads. A lot.
ââW-wellâ I..ââ You never thought heâd caught on to that, stammering to stand your ground as you continue. ââWell, there have been rumors about you.ââ You say, but it doesnât come off as confident as youâd hoped for. You also realize, it sounds kind of stupid.
ââReaaally? And you made sure to believe them, right?ââ His toneâs laced with irony but the way he talks like he whispers in a raspy voice doesn't annoy you anymore. It makes you more... uncomfortable? On the edge? Excited?...what?
ââItâs not like you donât claim it yourself.ââ You retort, finally finding some courage. You notice him looking at you as you awkwardly shuffle in your seat.
ââAll Iâve ever said was that I think women are good for nothing. And I still believe that, but I wouldnât waste more of my time on that.ââ The statement makes you roll your eyes.
ââHow can you generalize a whole group of people, who are literally in no way inferior to you, you canât tell me youâve triedâââÂ
ââListen dollface, unless you want to change my mind thereâs no reason to fuss that much, my opinion wonât change.ââ
Unless you want to change my mind?
ââI-I donât.ââ You stammer, because the answer and pet name (dollface??) takes you by surprise and he laughs.
ââRelax, you branded me an incel.ââ He jokes, ââdonât want the rape allegations on me too.ââÂ
The more he talks, the more your mind races and you curse yourself. He seems..funny? He has a mole under his lipsâfuck, it looks cute...He also looks good so (stupid as it is, yes!) you silently want his attention. Why canât he just look you in the eyes more?
This is so wrong. He must've noticed your lost gaze as he speaks up.
ââWanna watch a movie?ââ He proposes and you nod, anything is better than the silence hanging in the air. Silence you caused. For thinking... things about him.Â
Of course Tomura ends up choosing the most depressing film anyone can possibly watch in an internet café at 6 AM, Fallen Angels, and the dramatic cuts make it hard for you to concentrate. He at a certain point leans closer to you but you justify it, how else would he be able to see?
During this one scene, the woman pleasured herself with her legs closed, rubbing together and thatâs when you feel a soft hand touch on your thigh. The dress you wore rode up, because your legs rested on the table ahead so it gave him the space he needed. The movement made you tingle and your core involuntarily contracted. The smooth fingers teasingly trailed up and down your leg, from your knees to your inner thighs. You didnât want to look at himâhe was too close and the scene seemed endless. ButâŠhe went on about it as if nothing was happening.Â
Without saying a word, he carried on. A pad of his finger tip dangerously close to your now heated entrance, the images flashing before your eyes lewd, his hand tempting and threatening to reach your already soaked cuntâall this while the two of you hadnât even shared a kiss. But he doesn't stop, looking ahead and acting like everythingâs fine, until he touches your lower lips and you hiss, his finger traces the wet spot over your underwear while you try to move and speak up.Â
ââWâwhat are yâââ
ââShh..ââ is all he says.Â
You want to tell him no. But no to what? You like the feeling of his two fingers against your folds. His palm moves your panties to the side and he stuffs them insideâthey dampen from the fluids. How is he that quick? You canât form a response but youâre about to ask him whyâ
ââAll that and I havenât even kissed you.ââ He murmurs, gaze still fixated on the television ahead as you moan, when he slowly pumps them within your walls. Fuck, are you turned on by this?
ââP-please..ââ You whisper, turning to look at him and for the first time, his eyes are removed from the stupid TV, a sly smile on his features as he tears away his hand.
ââWhat is it? Want the incel to kiss you? Maybe even fuck you to prove a point?ââ He says and you frown.
ââIâno, I have to go.ââ You get up, fixing (lowering) your dressâyou have nowhere to go but youâll figure it out eventually. You think staying longer only plays into his cruel intentions and whilst you canât deny the pleasure he could give you, your prideâs in the way.
ââYouâre not going anywhere.ââ A wet hand clasps around your wrist and brings you on his lap, as he grins; you seem confused at the sensation. You are hiding the TV screen but he couldn't care less, he never paid attention to the movie.
ââFeel the stain you left, too?ââ He says as he brings your face closer with the sticky palm grabbing you by the hair. You softly moan, noticing the small mole up close and feeling a bulge poke where your bodies meet. You sway your hips in a silent effort to have him initiate a kiss, you feel desperate and curse yourself again internally. He can only smile.
(You were so clueless, walking around in that slutty dress earlierâmaking him hard like that, did you even know it?)
Heâs quick to kiss you, eager for more already, as mouths clash, teeth collide, the need you both have exceeds proper manners. You sloppily grind against him, the friction from a long outline beneath you makes it hard to think.
ââIâm guessing, youâre really fucking the incel then.ââ He half smirks as he grabs you and repositions you to sit on his now fully hard cock that throbs in his pants; he lifts your dress above your ass and guides your hips sluggishly back and forthâheâs tormenting you and he enjoys it to the fullest.
ââT-tomura..p-please.ââ You whine, the urge to have him inside you makes you blabber.
ââPlease what?ââ He slides a hand behind your waist, lowering it to find your slit from behind, his fingers pet your cunt and you moan. Loudly. He is tugging at your panties, the fabric annoys him and he wants full access and the words. The words to prove his point.
ââPâplease...fuck me already!ââ You breathe out and he groans to the sound of your voice.Â
The ironic remark he prepared evaporates as he quickly pushes you back, just enough to not fall off his lap and quickly unzips his pants, thanking god for not wearing a belt.Â
His pants and underwear are sloppily moved down his knees, as his cock jumps with a pop on his lower abdomen, stiff with a weeping tip. Pretty veins throb around it as your eyes widen.
Shit, heâs big, can you take him?
ââIâd ask for a nice blowjob, dollface, but wouldnât want the feminists after me.ââ He says as he brings you close, kissing you yet again, a string of spit runs down your jaw, as your hands roam his tangled, uncombed hair.Â
He positions you on his cock, one hand snakes around your waist while the other one clings to the back of your scalp and youâre swiftly lifted by the head and pushed down on him, as you let out a scream.
ââShut the fuck up.ââ He hisses, quickly looking around, the sensation from almost his whole length makes you tremble, he feels too full, too painful...too good.
ââShit, câmon now you got this.ââ He encourages as you hesitantly move up and down his cock, gripping his shoulders and looking at him; he seems more concentrated on the sensation than your body, staring at you while you wrap around his length.
ââFuck...dollface, this too much for ya?ââ He tries not to grunt and you give your best not to cry, each moment that goes by turning the initial pain to pleasureâyour cunt adjusts slowly and bit by bit to his girth.Â
ââT-tomura... y-yes..itâs too much!ââ You whine, sweat forms in your forehead as his hand finds your swollen clit and circles it while your nails dig deeper in his shirt.
ââYou can take it.ââ He says, he feels you squeezing him in, you bounce with dedication on his legs, making the couch squeak as if on some sex tapeâyou want to bring yourself even closer. So nasty, aren't you? Acting righteous, only to fuck yourself on his cock like a desperate whore.
ââI-ugh-p-please..ââ You try to speak but he secures his hand around your torso and sinks (lower than before) down the couch. Two strong hands force you to stay still in the air while he drills himself into you at a steady pace, kind of sloppily too. Both of you moan, the position gives equal pleasure, your clit bumps on his groin and his cock reaches your g-spot with ease.
ââSâShit, youâre squeezing way too much, havenât you been fucked like this before?ââ He sounds annoyed but the stammer in his voice betrays him.
Not like this, you want to say but canât really speak the words. Your weight falls entirely on him, he doesnât mind one bitâhe loves it actually, this skin on skin contact as he guides you on his cock, it feels surreal. He hits soft and spongy spots inside while you slowly fall apart.Â
ââT-Tomura right there..I ughâI'm close!ââ The sensation overwhelms you, his eyes are still fixated on your face, yeah I can tell, he thinks. He gets off on your desperation, mouth parted all for him? Your eyes threaten to spill by the way he tears apart your cunt and morals bit by bit.. itâsâ
ââTomura, aren't you closing yet?ââ Someone asks from outside, interrupting the moment. The shutters only reveal a pair of shoes.Â
ââYeah, Iâm on it.ââ Shigaraki stops composed, cockwarming you in a funny way, while a hand, his hand covers your mouth. Your eyes widen as slick trickles down his thighs in silence.
ââAlright, see you then.ââ The man leaves and he cusses him out. (''Cunt.'')
ââWeâre not done.ââ He turns his attention back to you and seizes your face, bringing your mouth closer.
ââOpen up.ââ He orders and you do, clenching around him in anticipation.
He spits in it and closes the gap with his index finger.Â
ââSwallow or I wonât continue.ââ You quickly gulp down.
ââSo obedient all of a sudden, aren't you?ââ Sarcasm evident as he gives your ass a solid hit, before starting to get back on his pace, only more rough this time, he longs for your release on him. Youâre moving up and down his length, trying to grab anything accessible really, his hair, the back of the couch, under his shirt and you feel your orgasm resurface stronger; the delay highlighted all of your senses.
ââT-Tomuraâââ You shudder, as his cock hits your g-spot expertlyâfuck, this guy wasn't some incelâand your swollen clit has to brush one last time past his groin before you feel an overwhelming orgasm take over. You clamp down his length and moan embarrassingly (Fuck Tomura! IâI'm...too good!) This time he lets you, he needs to hear this.
ââFuuckâagh, look at you dollface.ââ He hums, a feminist creaming herself on my cock, he wants to add but itâs too many words and you just came so he wastes no time. He brings your neck close to his mouth and bites on it, teeth sink into your flesh and hands force you all the way down. His cum spills inside and he groans, trying to stifle his moans by biting down the sensitive skin even harder.Â
And fuck if that isnât hot.
He keeps you on him, arms fasten around your waist with cum dripping onto his lowered pants but neither of you bother to care; ragged breaths and the sounds of the film still playing are audible as more light enters through the rolled shutters.
God mustâve been on your side that day because a message appears on your screen moments after you both wordlessly got up and cleaned yourselves in the bathroom. Tomura would have to clean again, you think, as the message on your phone signals your time to leave.
You turn to look at him, he has removed his shirt and small nail scratches decorate his pale back and you..smile. What the hell? Was this..? Oh noâYou try to find an appropriate goodbye.
See you soon? Thanks for the mind blowing dick? You arenât the incel I thought you were? Everything seems embarrassing at present time.Â
ââI-Iâll be seeing you soon.ââ You opt for that, stupid as it is, you still look at him in anticipation. He turns to you, hands on the mop cleaning near the couch and nods.Â
Great, you think, that was a disaster. You defeatedly walk (actually stoop to get past the almost closed door) feeling like a hooker after a client, miserable and kind of used. This is always the worst part.Â
You feel an arm touch your shoulder, youâve only taken a few steps in the daylight.
ââTake this in case you revoke your incel statement.ââ
Tomura hands you a piece of paper and quickly disappears behind the storeâs shadows.
#shigaraki x reader#shigaraki tomura#shigaraki x you#shigaraki smut#shigaraki tomura x reader#mha x reader#tenko x reader#shigaraki tomura smut#tomura x reader#tw degradation
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"but it's realistic that they would breakup"
Not the point.
"But they had a lot of trauma the re-"
Also not the point.
"But at least she's a-"
Absolutely not the point.
Y'all trying to justify a narrative choice from within the narrative constraints.
That's a mistake.
Just like how many people never understood why so many would pick Bae ending, so many people just don't seem to get what the pairing meant overall.
Y'all realise what this pairing meant to people when it came out?
Despite the issues with the ending, the adoration and love the pairing has to this day has been earned by the game - it's inseparable from the franchise and it's reception.
It wasn't just another pairing. It wasn't just something that existed as bait or something within fanon or something developers never committed to.
Through the years plenty of ships get baited disingenuously while throwing the audience nothing but breadcrumbs - for example the disaster of Sherlock fandom, the mess with Supernatural, Teen Wolf, Voltron and so on. Or the way Blake/Yang in RWBY were the most blatant baiting that got no on-screen development(despite all the setup that show ignored for years) till the moment the show literally was getting axed and they wanted to milk LGBTQ+ community for money one last chance, skipping all the development to characterization characters deserve and attempting to bribe LGBTQ+ community with breadcrumbs at the last possible second.
And some shows would stumble into something important but fail to realise it and thus end up squashing it - ask Buffy fans about Tara and Willow or The 100 fans about clexa.
There were LGBTQ+ pairings in video games too but rarely they would be so front and center and very often would be playersexual.
This wasn't what Life is Strange ended up being.
Life Is Strange, at the very core is about queer experience - about fitting in, about making connections in the world that rejects you, about finding beauty in the life that hates and hurts you - Max and Chloe's relationship is the key to the entire game.
For some that meant letting go but for others? It gave the chance to fight a trope no matter what and to get an ending, albeit flawed, where a WLW pairing they liked can be happy and face the future together.
People lived through those two characters and their experiences finding something genuine to relate to.
Max and Chloe were that generation's Korra/Asami, Willow/Tara, etc.
Even DONTNOD recognised that in the end and treated it with respect.
Double Exposure might not pull a BYG outright but it sure does everything to kill the happy memories a fandom made about the pairing - to go back through every single ray of sunshine one ending got and subvert it, taint it, reject it.
Picking the Bae choice when playing Double Exposure is the Narrative constantly telling you how wrong you were to expect happiness when you picked the ending where the pairing is intact and how acshually it isn't intact!
It doesn't kill the characters but it sure goes an extra mile to kill what those characters MEAN to the audience.
Realism, plausibility and so on come after - it's what a writer does when they decide on a path. A writer doesn't just do something because it makes sense and is out of their control - they decide to do it and then make it make sense. Whether they succeed or not depends on how good a writer is.
Double Exposure isn't the story about a breakup. It isn't the story about two women dealing with their trauma.
Double Exposure treats an iconic pairing people cared about as a backstory element - nothing more.
Deck Nine expects the audience to accept what happened and move on to shiny new cast and possible new LIs.
The writers of Double Exposure are telling you - "look, this doesn't matter. Now here's a new mystery you can solve and new cast and look Max is back and you liked using her powers right? Use powers to do stuff."
To this developer team the core element of what made the franchise so important to its audience is nothing more than a leftover plot thread to "write around".
Because to these writers queer experience apparently starts and stops with searching for a relationship - someone being in a relationship that's not part of the story or someone being comfortable NOT being in a relationship at all just don't exist.
What Deck Nine writers seem to be doing is treating it as disposable or interchangeable/replaceable, while also inadvertently tainting whatever comes after with fandom rage.
The worst thing that can happen to a new character is being "the next love interest" - because people channel their frustrations towards the character (or in some worst cases, please don't do this, the actor).
Where there was an iconic part of the franchise Double Exposure, intentionally or not, sets up a toxic battle ground.
That's the point - treating LGBTQ+ audience as sales numbers, manipulating us, treating something that has been a formative experience to so many lives as disposable, or worse yet - malleable.
(And yes there's also a wider issue with Deck Nine and the working conditions there, misogyny, the nazi imagery and the rest but I don't think this is that disconnected from that? How they treat their audience and subject matter is a reflection of culture inside.)
#life is strange#life is strange double exposure#life is strange spoilers#life is strange double exposure spoilers#lis spoilers#lis double exposure#lis double exposure spoilerw#pricefield#max caulfield#chloe price
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the woobification of the lords is something ill never be able to wrap my head around đ its insane to me how people can have such a horrible interpretation of events and characters based off of what we have in the actual game
let me start off by saying that ALL FOUR LORDS DID HORRIBLE THINGS (INCLUDING THE DIMITRESCU DAUGHTERS) !
lady dimitrescu isnt some gentle giant who only hates men and loves women and treats them like queens and she just loves living a quiet life with her daughters, she kills and tortures people đđ she like actively killed her maids and drank their blood đ they have a basement that has so much blood in it that it goes up to ethans THIGHS
they are muderous and SADISTIC, including the daughters
the woobfication of the dimitrescu daughters is always the most confusing to me. their faces are literally covered in BLOOD đđ they chase ethan around and stab him will laughing and giggling, cassandra literally calls it a HUNT, it is fun to them and they enjoy it
people always try to frame it as ethan breaking into their homes while they are scared and afraid đ i can assure you that nobody is afraid of him at first đ they dont think hes an actual threat, thats why they toy with him. and dont act like they were unaware of what he wanted. they were all present at the family meeting with miranda, they were all present when they JARRED rosemary đ they know what ethan wants, they know who ethan is, to frame them as "minding their own business" is the most absurd interpreation you could make of them
they were all involved, they all knew what he wanted, and they all HAD what he wanted
you can feel sympathy for lady D, when she cries for her daughters with tears in her eyes, she loved them, they were her family, but you cannot deny the hypocrisy. "how can you kill my daughters for your own!" you have his daughters head in a pickle jar! her daughters werent innocent defenless babies who were scared of big ol ethan stomping around in their house, they have weapons! they wanted to hurt him, and they did, and when he fought back he won
i cannot stress enough that in every single fight, ethan is not the first to strike. he is either backed into a corner where its either his life or theirs, or he is literally being tortured/ chased around, what do you want him to do? these people have pieces of his baby, should he have lied down and died?? đ
whenever ethan is in a situation where the other person isnt stabbing him in the abdomen 100 times he tries to HELP them đ he tries to help absoulute strangers of a village he doesnt even know while he knows his own daughter is missing, even when the stranger is also a jerk to him đ he wants allies, he isnt actively trying to make enemys, and before you cry "karl heisenberg!" im getting there...
the thing that bothers me with how people treat donna is that although she isnt the WORST she gets woobfied the MOST imo, like she is the ONLY lord (other than karl but hes a outlier because he wanted ethan to come over so they could make out on his bed) who actively lures ethan in, miss dimitrescus, yeah sure u could say that he trespassed, same with moreau, but donna literally LURES HIM IN with hallucinations of his DEAD WIFE, then OPENS THE DOOR for him and TAKES HIM DOWN THE ELEVATOR
she is literally one of the people who ACTIVELY leads him to where she is
she also uses psychological puzzles , like making ethan perform surgery on a wooden doll of his wife and making him run away from a monster that cries like a baby and calls him "dada" đ she did not need to do any of that... like at all đ she did it because she wanted to đ she is by no means innocent at all
she toyed with him for literally no reason other than her own desire and then ethan doesnt even intentionally kill her. he is in a situation where is his trapped in the house and has to find angie, the doll, to avoid being attacked by dolls with like 100 knives stapled onto them
its only when he defeats angie its revealed that he had actually stabbed DONNA. he didnt even intentionally kill her đ
then moreau... poor moreau... đ
moreau in my opinion is one of the more sympathetic lords. whoever he was in his life pre cadou has no influence or impact on his life post cadou, the cadou just wrecked his brain functions
all he is is just mirandas minion at this point, he only wants to please her and doesnt really think about anything else for himself đ
i dont have much to say about moreau because theres not really many people who woobfiy him or pay him any attention really đ though i will say he was very unabashedly evil đ he did horrible things, such as eating the fishermen and his experiments with the cadou on the villagers, he did it for mirandas approval but its not a excuse for it, hes still a villian đ now we are onto karl.... this guy... the woobification of him is insane đ first of all, something i dont see people acknowledge is that he actually HAS killed villagers! no he doesnt just use dead bodies (which btw isnt really a step up đ some of u set the bar too low man) the lycan gauntlet that he made ethan run through? yeah, he used that before! he has an entire PA system set up in it! he has lights and huge spikey metal death traps! he did not make all of that just for ethan just to "play appearances" for miranda. there were other people who went through that. and they DIED!
their deceased bodies are still in there! karl is messed up and eccentric đ it makes him fun, let him be messed up and evil đ and yes, karl used DEAD bodies instead of killing people who were alive, so surely that makes him far less evil right?
WRONG! đ
HE CONSIDERED USING LIVE BODIES FOR THE SOLDATS đ
karl really isnt a good person, he has reasons for the things he does, he wants to take down miranda and i dont think hed be creating undead zombies in the first place if it werent for her ruining his life but that isnt justification, its just an explanation for why he does what he does. he has a sympathetic back story and motives but you cant erase what he did, hes a villain! he tries to use a baby as a weapon!!! all 4 of the lords are villains, and instead of making other characters worse to uplift your favorite character that did something bad, you can just accept that the character you like did bad things đ they are all fictional, if i like moreau it does not mean i endorse eating fishermen đ you can like a character that is flawed, or evil, or did insanely messed up things because its RESIDENT EVIL. they are EVIL! they do bad things! like im sorry! but if your fave has a villains wiki it probably means they did some bad things! đ
i wish people would be able to enjoy a character without entirely dismissing the bad things they did. its okay to like a character that does bad things, its ok to find them interesting and fun! but you cant deny what actually happens in games to try and make them appear as innocent. you dont have to justify every little thing that they do, just accept them as a whole!
of course this doesnt apply to AUs or just posting for fun. you can change media to be what you want to make it more fun. im going to draw lady dimitrescu treating ethan like a unwanted family pet. does that mean that i think she would really do that in canon? no! she would bite him and then tie him up like a pinata and give her daughters blindfolds and bats!
but people need to be able to recognize that fanon is NOT canon.
this post is about canon interpretations,
this is just addressing people who genuinely believe that those kinds of portrayals of the character is an ACCURATE portrayal, because its not.
#ethan winters#donna beneviento#alcina dimitrescu#dimitrescu daughters#karl heisenberg#salvatore moreau#resident evil#resident evil village#resident evil 8#re8
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believe me- a.hotchner (18+)
summary: aaron is there for you during a particularly difficult case.
pairing: aaron hotchner x bau!fem! reader
warnings: reader grew up in a cult, mention of hurting women, domestic violence, mental, physical, emotional abuse, children in dangerous situations, miscarriages, abortions, women being treated awfully, i hate this it scares me (i think that's it? PLEASE TELL ME IF I MISSED SOMETHING)
this is pretty dark so I will be saying it's 18+ only because of the content, please remember you manage what you consume, mdni.
not entirely proofread
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You sighed, walking into the bullpen. Another day.Â
You sat down at your desk and started on your paperwork with as much enthusiasm as one would assume to be normal, but Aaron knew it wasnât. Heâd been watching you, they all had. The sunken eyes, dry skin, yawning at all hours of the day, refusing to stop working, refusing drinks or food, being âtoo busyâ to come for after work drinks. You had even stopped responding to his texts regarding Jack. You had always been the one on the team that Aaron was closest with, mostly because he was in love with you. Due to that, he also invited you over a lot to watch movies, bake, come to football games, etc with Jack. Jack adored you, probably more than he liked his own father (at least, thatâs what Aaron thought). You hadnât been texting or calling back. You two had gone on a few dates, at first he thought he had done something wrong, but then he watched you closer. It wasnât him.Â
Aaron stepped out of his office. âWe have a new case, everyone meet in 5.â
You picked yourself up from your desk and followed him in, sitting in the chair furthest from him.Â
âWe have a new case, Dallas,â he announced. 4 images of women popped up on the screen, and you looked down, knowing exactly who and what they were. â4 women from the same family, killed in the same way, over one decade.âÂ
âWere they mother and children?â Spencer asked.Â
âYes,â you answered. âTheir names are Delores, Tiffany, Riley, and Freya Howell and they all died via the head trauma they sustained in the ritual. The youngest was 17.âÂ
They all stared at you. You knew this was coming. You understood it.
âWhat ritual?â Aaron asked, looking straight at you.Â
âThe birthing,â you answered simply.Â
âWhy do you know about this?â Derek asked, just as dumbfounded as the rest of them.
You pointed at the screen. âThatâs my mother, thatâs my little sister, thatâs my older sister, and thatâs my cousin. Thereâs no point in getting us in. No matter what we find they claim religious freedom and hide. Itâs a cult and itâs about killing women. I work with children to get them out.â
âSo you know people in the cult right now?â
âI lived in that cult. I know every single person on that compound's entire medical, familial, and social history. Including the Supreme Leader. Trust me, they have all the fucking permits they could ever need. Iâve been working with another group to try and take them down, but it doesnât work.â
âWe have to try,â Aaron said, stoic as ever.Â
âIt doesnât matter what you throw at them, legally theyâre untouchable,â you sighed. âIf we really want to help, then we need to work on getting the children out.â
âWe need to make them illegal then,â Aaron said matter-of-factly, and you just sighed.Â
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On the plane, the team was wary of you, it was fine, you understood why. You had just told them that you grew up in the strange woman-killing cult you were now all going to investigate.Â
âSo what is âthe ritualâ?â Spencer asked.Â
âWhen a woman is pregnant and they bring it to full-term, they are killed as their child enters the word. In the âteachingsâ it is said to bring the child the strength of 2 people, and that they carry their mothersâ spirit. Thatâs why everyoneâs middle name is their mothersâ,â you explained. âSee, itâs unusual for the women at the compound to bring children to full-term, at least, when I was there. And in the âteachingsâ, it was written that no women could get pregnant for years and years, but that one, the Supreme Leadersâ mother, could, and when he was in labour, he told her husband to bludgeon her. He did, and the Supreme Leader was born. They are trying desperately to have a new prophet. A new leader. So they began practising the âRitualâ back when I was probably 12. Also, itâs difficult for women to get any kind of medical care in the compound, since theyâve rejected modern medicine, so itâs not uncommon for women to miscarry.â
âHow old were you when you left?â Derek asked, the entire plane silent as you recounted your traumatic past.Â
â18,â you explained. âI was one of the lucky ones. My mother was a teacher, before she joined the compound. She never wanted to join, it was always my dadâs idea. So she broke the rules. She taught us and another small group of children maths, English, history, and modern politics from any of the newspapers she could smuggle in. When we turned 18, they gave us a test. It was believed by the Supreme Leader that you were either born with the ability to write or not, and all of us in the group passed, so we were sent out to the world to recruit. We ran away. Found a place that they could never find us, cut all contact with each other, and moved on with our lives. I work with a few of them, trying to get children out, but for our own safety, we all act like weâve never met before.â
âWhat happened to the others?â
âThe ones who didnât pass turned into husbands and wives, and then fathers. By the time I was 18 I was already married and on my second pregnancy,â you chuckled sadly. âHe almost killed me when I said I was leaving to recruit. The men there, theyâre taught to be violent. Theyâre taught to be animals. Theyâre taught to hurt women. My only saving grace was the âdocâ. She was one of the eldest women in the compound. We all thought she was blind and half-dead. But she saved me. When I was about 2 months in, she picked me out of my bed and brought me to the edge of the compound walls. She asked me if I wanted the baby, I said no. She got rid of it. She made it look like a miscarriage.â
They were silent.Â
âThatâs what weâre up against. Years and years of sexual, physical, and mental abuse. A doctorate that no one believes but the men, and the men have all the power and strength. These women and children need help.â
âH-how many have you gotten out so far?â Penelope asked, tears in her eyes.Â
â281,â you nodded. âAnd thereâs still more.â
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Aaron walked you up to your room in the hotel. It had been a long day. You had been on speed dial the entire time, explaining everything to the entire team as you worked with your team on making a plan to evacuate all of the women and children.Â
âIâm sorry I havenât been calling back, all of my weekends have kind of turned into⊠this,â you explained, looking down. âI do genuinely like you Aaron, but Iâd understand if what you found out today is too much or-â
âIt's not,â he assured you. âThank you for your insight, and Iâm sorry that you have it.â
You nodded, the motion bubbling up in your throat as you thought over the last 24 hours. âI hope we can help them,â you whispered.Â
âWe will,â he nodded, wrapping his arms around you and holding you close as you cried into his chest. Aaron vowed something to himself right then and there, heâd always be there for you, no matter what. âCome on, letâs get you inside.â
Aaron helped you inside, helped you change into your pyjamas, helped you get ready for bed, and tucked you in, all while whispering words of encouragement. As you lay in bed, utterly exhausted from the emotional toll of the day, you found yourself reaching for Aaronâs hand.Â
âPlease stay,â you begged, your voice soft and small.Â
How could he ever refuse?Â
âOf course,â he whispered. Without a moment's pause, the bed dipped beside you, and Aaron opened his arms to accommodate for you. You settled yourself into his arms and pressed a kiss to his clavicle.Â
âThank you for believing me.â
âIâll always believe you,â he whispered, pressing a kiss to the crown of your head.
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criminal minds masterlist :)
navigation for my blog :) (criminal minds, obx, the bear, marvel, top gun, the hunger games :)
#not entirely proofread#criminal minds#criminal minds imagine#bau team#criminal minds x reader#aaron hotchner x reader#criminal minds fandom#aaron hotchner#criminal minds fic#aaron hotchner fluff#thomas gibson x reader#thomas gibson#aaron hotchner fanfiction#aaron hotch hotchner#aaron hotch x reader#aaron hotch imagine#aaron hotchner imagine#aaron hotch fanfiction
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Lady Dimitrescu being canonically a lesbian and a man-hater, only ever having women in her castle, all her maids being women, her three daughters never being exposed to men other than in the context to drink their blood. Lady Dimitrescu being great representation of lesbianism and perhaps even trauma (that's perhaps why she hates men?). Lady Dimitrescus who was just trying to live peacefully in her castle with her daughters and maids without being disturbed, doing what she needed to do in order for her and her family to survive.
Only for dudebros to come along, pronounce Alcina the hottest resident evil character all because she's extremely tall ("step on me mommy") and has big boobs? Dudebros who show exactly why we need more lesbian rep in popular video game franchises. Dudebros who are, at this point, proving exactly why the man-hating part of Lady D is valid, who are proving why she would want to get away from them and live in peace.
I can promise you, if she existed, she would NOT step on you. She would kill you and drain your blood to bathe in and drink, and NOT in the hot sexy fun kind of way. Please.
Edit to add on to this:
Okay maybe I made it a bit too wordy or something? Some people on here don't have half their brains apparently. So I'll water it down to be nice and simple for those people...
Lady D's male fans are kinda weird.
#resident evil#resident evil village#resident evil 8#re village#re8#lady dimitrescu#alcina dimitrescu
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The humans in Greek Mythology are the mega rich and powerful:
In my college classes people are often shocked when I tell them my favorite part of Greek mythology is the gods themselves and I'm not a big fan of the humans.
99% of my classmates prefer the humans in mythos, especially the ones that stick it to the gods like Sisyphus and feel bad for humans like Kassandra and Helen who have been wronged by the gods because "they're just like us." My classmates and teachers hate the gods and don't understand why anyone in modern times would want to worship such violent and selfish beings whenever I point out there are still people who worship them. They hold onto the idea that people in mythology embody the human experience of being oppressed by terrible gods and fate and we should feel bad for them because "they're human just like us" but they forget that the people in Greek Mythology are NOT just like us. They are more relatable to medieval royalty, colonizers and ultra rich politicians who make laws and decisions on wars and the fates of others, especially the poor and the very vulnerable.
Every hero or important human in Greek Mythology is either some form of royalty or mega rich politician/priest-priestess (of course this is with the exception of people who are explicitly stated to be poor like the old married couple in the myth where Zeus and Hermes pretend to be panhandlers). All of them have an ancient Greek lifestyle more relatable to Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, and especially to British royalty during the British empire, than the average person.
All of them.
Odysseus, Patroclus, Theseus, Helen of Troy, Kassandra, Diomedes, Agamemnon, Perseus, Hercules, Aeneas, Paris, Any human who has a divine parent or is related to one, etc. Although sometimes the story omits it, it is heavily implied that these are people who own hundreds or even thousands of slaves, very poor farmers and the tiny barely there working class as royal subjects.
They are the ones who make laws and whose decisions massively affect the fates of so many people. So no, they can't just be forgiven for some little whim, because that little whim affects the literal lives of everyone under their rule. By being spoiled they've just risked the lives of thousands of people and possibly even gotten them killed like when Odysseus' audacity got every single slave and soldier in his ships killed or when Patroclus as a kid got upset and killed another kid for beating him at a game. (A normal person wouldn't kill another person just for winning a game but royalty and those who think they're above the law do it all the time, plus the class status of the child wasn't mentioned but the way he didn't think he'd get in trouble implies the kid was of lower class, possibly the child of a slave or a foreign merchant.)
The gods get a bad reputation for punishing the humans in mythology but, if not them, who else is going to keep them accountable when they are the law?
And whose to say the humans beneath them weren't praying to the gods in order to keep their masters in check?
Apollo is the god in charge of freeing slaves, Zeus is the god of refugees, immigrants and homeless people, Ares is the protector of women, Artemis protects children, Aphrodite is the goddess of the LGBT community, Hephaestus takes care of the disabled, etc. It wouldn't be surprising if the gods are punishing the ultra rich and powerful in these myths because the humans under their rulership prayed and sent them as they did historically.
Every time someone asks me if I feel bad for a human character in a myth, I think about the many lives affected by the decision that one human character made and if I'm being completely honest, I too would pray to the gods and ask them to please punish them so they can make more careful decisions in the future because:
They are not just like us.
We are the farmers, a lot of our ancestors were slaves, we are the vulnerable being eaten by capitalism and destroyed by the violence colonialism created. We are the poor subjects that can only pray and hope the gods will come and correct whatever selfish behavior the royal house and mega rich politicians are doing above us.
And that's why I pray to the gods, because in modern times I'm dealing with modern Agamemnons who would kill whatever family members they have to in order to reach their end goal, I'm dealing with everyday modern Achilles who would rather see their own side die because they couldn't keep their favorite toy and would gladly watch their subjects die if it means they eventually get their way. The ones that let capitalism eat their country and it's citizens alive so long as it makes them more money. These are our modern "demigods," politicians who swear they are so close to God that they know what he wants and so they pass laws that benefit only them and claim these laws are ordained by God due to their close connection just like how Achilles can speak to the gods because of his demigod status via his mother.
Look at the news, these are humans that would be mythical characters getting punished by Greek gods which is why anything Greco-Roman is jealousy guarded by the rich and powerful and is inaccessible to modern worshippers because Ivy League schools like Harvard and Cambridge make sure to keep it that way. That's what we're dealing with. These are the humans these mythical beings would be because:
In our modern times the humans in mythos would be the politicians and mega rich that are currently ruining our society and trying to turn it into a world where only the rich can manipulate wars and laws, just like they do in mythology.
Fuck them.
I literally have so much more to add about my disdain for them and I didn't even touch on the obvious ancient Greek propaganda.
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Cat and Mouse âą Joel Miller
Main Masterlist âą Joel Miller MasterlistïżŒ
âąïž sexual assault (past) âą readerâs motto is gaslight gatekeep girlboss âą cocky Joel (needs a warning) âą slut Joel âą smut âą miscommunication âąïž
This was supposed to be one part. It got away from me. I have no regrets. Part two will be up tomorrowish
Joel had a nod. It was a respectful greeting he used for a very specific set of people. He used it exclusively to acknowledge women he had fucked. Tommy had lost count of the amount of women he offered the nod to.
How he was getting away with making his way through half the population of Jackson, Tommy would never know. His brother had given the nod to nearly every single woman of an acceptable age range in town.
âAre you gonna start again once you collect them all?â Tommy asked one evening. He was trying to share a drink with his brother but Joel was like a damn bobble head with all the nodding he was doing.
âHuh?â Joel asked and Tommy only sighed, shaking his head. He took a sip of the watered down whiskey and remembered a time it was him nodding his head at all the women in down town Austin. He had no idea how Joel was able to keep up now.
Tommy was happy to have Maria now, someone to come home to at the end of the day. Someone to share everything with. He could never go back to giving away parts of himself to different women every Friday night. It was made all the better by the fact that it was Maria who chose to love him for all his faults. He didnât get complacent with her love, he worked for it every single day.
While Tommy was driven to distraction thinking of his wife Joel had found a new target. Tommy watched him lock eyes on you and shook his head, pulling his brother back down into his seat. âNot her.â
âNot her? Why not her?â Joel asked in confusion, his eyebrows furrowed. He looked back to you again and Tommy could see the allure. The tight jeans stole all the attention in the room, your laugh was like a sirens call. But Tommy couldnât allow it.
âNot up for debate. You can fuck every single woman in town but her. Sheâs not an option. Youâre not allowed.â Tommy didnât explain his reasoning, only shook his head. Joel grinned at his brother and shook his hand off. âIâll treat her real nice, promise.â
Tommy let him go. He thought it was personal, that you were a friend of Tommyâs or something. Tommy had never even gotten close and he wouldnât dare to. You were the choice of most single men in Jackson and some not so single men. But Tommy had watched you chew every last one of them up and spit them all out.
You played with them like a bored barn cat and a field mouse. You let the run rings around you and just when they thought theyâd won you deal the killing blow with one lazy swipe of a paw.
Tommy wanted to hate you. Maria had to deal with more than one bruised ego and tell them that no, embarrassing them and breaking up with them was not enough reason to kick you out of the commune.
The men knew better. Youâd been doing it for the two years youâd been in Jackson, seeming to take sick pleasure in luring the men in and bringing them down a peg or two. Tommy could only thank the god above you never went near the married men or he knew there would be hell to pay from the possessive wives of Jackson.
You seemed to have some morals, atleast.
Well, that wasnât exactly fair either. Tommy knew some of what happened to you before Jackson. How the men had treated you in your last camp. They had done much worse than a little embarrassment and ego checking.
Tommy watched you turn into the tap on your shoulder from Joel as he played the polite southern gentleman, just trying to squeeze by to get some drinks. You werenât fooled, Tommy could tell, even if Joel couldnât.
And so the game began.
///
âPardon me, maâam.â You looked over your shoulder to find Tommy Millerâs brother with an almost bashful look on his face, his hand retreating from where he had tapped your shoulder. âYou mind if I squeeze in?â
You blinked at him before smiling demurely, moving a step back so he could reach the bar and gesture to Seth for a drink. You shared a look with Lou, your friend that you had been drinking with, over his shoulder and she shook her head with a laugh and turned away. âThank you, maâam.â
âWell with good southern manners like that and a Texan twang you canât be anyone other than Tommyâs-â You paused to look him up and down slowly. âBig brother?â
âYouâre gonna tell me Tommyâs got manners?â Joel asked with a laugh, accepting his drink from Seth and leaning an elbow on the bar.
âNah but Iâm sure one of you had to have them.â You told him, smiling when he laughed. You were jostled from behind by someone heading for the bar and you pressed against Joel before backing away slowly. âSorry âbout that.â
âDonât you worry, sweetheart.â He was laying the accent on thick and you smiled at him, looking up from under your eyelashes. You rested one hand on his arm for balance when you were jostled again. âI donât think we got a proper introduction. Iâm Joel, Joel Miller.â
You gave him your name and stepped back to extend your hand to him. He shook it slowly before lifting it and pressing a soft kiss to the back of your hand. You laughed in delight. âOh you really are a gentleman. I thought those were extinct.â
âEndangered maybe, I donât know about extinct.â He still held your hand, his thumb smoothing over your skin. You blinked slowly at him when a particularly rough jostle shoved you into his chest. His arm wrapped around your waist to steady you and you apologized when you caught yourself with both hands on his chest. âYou wanna watch where youâre going, buddy?â
You turned in Joelâs embrace, his arm still tight around you, to find Nolan. You fought a wince knowing that this game could be over before it started if he decided to run his mouth. âItâs fine Joel.â
âIt ainât fine, he can apologize.â Joel insisted and you couldnât quite tamp down the wince this time when Nolan looked up at you. âRight now.â
âShe ainât worth the breath of an apology.â Nolan scoffed and you bit back a laugh. You had really hurt his feelings and you hadnât even been trying, not really. âDirty whore.â
âNow I know you ainât-â Joelâs chest swelled as he started to defend you and you let your laugh loose.
âNolan, sweetie. Iâm sorry that you and I didnât work out but it ainât my fault and I ainât no whore.â You reminded him, your voice gentle. âI think you just had too much to drink.â
Nolan stared at you for a second, his jaw tense before he looked over your shoulder. âYeah, thatâs it. Sorry about that.â
A low whistle reminded you that you were still in Joelâs grip. He let you go when you twisted back to look at him and found his impressed smile. âSolved that a lot tamer than I woulda.â Joel told you honestly.
âAwh Nolan doesnât mean any harm.â You told Joel and looked over your shoulder to find the man with his back to you. âBeing truthful? Me and Nolan used to date. Itâs hard when it doesnât work out. Jackson is so small.â
âYeah, I hear ya. Always bumpinâ into each other after the fact. Canât be easy.â Joel allowed and you nodded, a small smile on your lips.
âYou sound familiar with the feeling but I was under the impression that you donât date.â You stole his glass to sip at his drink and he raised his eyebrows both at your comment and your cheek. âWe women talk, Mr Miller.â
âWell, like you said. It gets messy. And I donât like mess.â He admitted, waving at Seth for another drink. You smiled and tipped your head back, finishing his drink.
âI quite like messy.â You told him, catching Louâs eye where she was lingering off to the side. âPity you donât. Cause I donât do one night stands. Nice talking to you, Joel.â
âWait, what?â Joel asked when you grabbed your purse from the bar stool. He looked from the empty glass you placed on the bar to your back as you walked away, arm linked with Lou.
Seth rested Joelâs drink on the counter and he took it, ignoring the chuckling bar man. He found his seat beside Tommy again and watched his brother try to hide his smile. âCount yourself lucky. Thatâs easier than the other men get off.â
âThatâs the problem, Tommy.â Joel finished his drink in one swallow. âThere wasnât any getting off. But Iâll change that. Sheâs sweet, real sweet.â
âSheâs gonna chew you up and spit you out, big brother.â Tommy assured him with a laugh. âBut someoneâs gotta bring you down a peg.â
///
You heard him before you saw him. The thin walls of the greenhouses held no secrets. A fact that a lot of people forgot when they wanted to go gossiping.
Joel Miller wasnât gossiping though. He was looking for you, asking Betty where you might be found. He had gone as far to check up on your rotation to find you today. That seemed like someone who would play your game.
You didnât look up when Betty sent him in your direction, picking the strawberries carefully. You were splitting them between baskets, trying to be fair with the size and number distributions. He paused on the threshold but you only hummed under your breath, turning away to grab several more baskets to fill. He cleared his throat and you made yourself jump a little, spinning around to face him.
âMy God, Joel.â You huffed, a hand on your chest. He was grinning at you, proud to have caught you unaware. âI was in a world of my own. Make a little noise next time.â
âIâll be sure to keep that in mind, sweetheart.â He leaned against the door frame with his arms crossed over his chest. âYouâre not an easy woman to track down.â
âIs that so?â You asked him, turning to face him. You leaned back against the work bench, your hands behind your back. âWhatâs got you tracking me?â
âCanât a man be neighborly?â He asked, an eyebrow raised and you laughed. He straightened up from the door way and you were in awe of his size, how his broad shoulders filled the space. âMaking sure youâre doing alright after putting Nolan in his place the other night?â
âI ainât worried about Nolan and we ainât neighbors, Mr Miller.â You reminded him and he looked slightly abashed to have been called out so thoroughly. You wanted to cup his red cheeks and coo at his embarrassment. A big man like Joel, heâd hate that he liked you doing it too.
âIf a man was looking to get a little messy, howâd he go about it?â Joel asked and you smiled brightly as his forwardness. âAsking for a friend, of course.â
âOh well, you can tell your friend that I got a three date rule.â You told Joel, turning back to pick your strawberries. âI like to be wined and dined, not rushed out the back door the following morning.â
âAnd if heâs got a kid that canât know. Can that wining and dining be discreet?â Joel asked and you shrugged, turning with a basket of strawberries in your hand.
âIf your friend wants to come and cook me dinner in my home, away from prying eyes, I wouldnât complain.â You told him, holding the strawberries out to him. âFor your friend.â
âIâll be sure to pass allâa that on to him.â Joel tipped his head at you, that infuriating nod he gave all the other women in town.
âDonât nod at me like that. I ainât a sure thing and I ainât your conquest.â You huffed, annoyed you had already given him the strawberries. âYou can tell your friend he better try harder than you do.â
âYes maâam.â Joel sounded properly chastised but you didnât give him the satisfaction of looking up at him when he left with a muttered thanks for the strawberries.
You released a breath and smiled to yourself as you finished with the strawberries. He was such an adorable man for the sheer size of him. So quick to apologize when he was in the wrong too. It was endearing.
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âFancy seeing you here.â Joel looked up from the basket of blueberries he was examining closely. âThose blueberries hurt your feelings or somethinâ?â
âEllie doesnât like them too soft.â He explained and you stepped closer to him, looking over the baskets of berries. You selected one and passed it to him. âThank you.â
âI know how she feels. Itâs kind of gross when they turn to mush.â You admitted, lifting a bundle of wild garlic and checking each leaf. âFriday evening. I finish work at seven, by the way.â
âSeven?â Joel asked, his interest moving from the open collar of your blouse to your face. He didnât look embarrassed to be caught looking.
âIf your friend is still looking to get messy.â You prompted and he blinked, nodding his head slowly. You reached for a red bell pepper and turned it over in your hand. âI mean, if heâs up for it.â
âUp for it?â Joel asked, reaching over you to pick a bell pepper of his own. He didnât bother examining it, tossing it into his basket. You sighed and pulled it back out, tilting it over to show him where it had gone soft.
âSome men arenât up to the challenge of having to actually get to know someone. Especially when thereâs no promise, or even chance, of sex at the end of the night.â You explained while picking a separate pepper and handing it to him. He copied your inspection this time before placing it in his basket.
âI can hold a conversation. Just because I only usually spend one night, doesnât mean it ainât a damn good night. You wonât be the first woman Iâve wined and dined.â Joel huffed and you raised your eyebrows.
âYou really know how to make a girl feel special.â You huffed, turning on your heel. You checked in with the stall owner and let them check off the food you were taking, ignoring Joelâs attempt to get your attention. The market was too crowded for him to navigate it as quickly as you had.
Joel was left staring after you feeling wrong footed again. He wasnât sure how he managed to always mess it up with you. Saying the wrong thing at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing when things were going so good.
He sighed and returned to the stalls, looking over the produce in search of something inspirational enough for dinner with you on Friday. If he was even welcome at this point.
Joel didnât avoid dating for the mess if it ended badly. He didnât date cause he hadnât dated anyone since he was sixteen. Fucking was easy. Dating was complicated.
He stared at the uninspired fruit and vegetables and shook his head, turning on his heel and leaving that decision for later in the week.
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âCome now,â Tommy sighed, leaning back on your porch with a glass of lemonade in hand. He was regretting agreeing to be on landscaping duty this summer. He was getting too damn old for that old push lawnmower. âHeâs not a bad guy. You could just cancel on him.â
âI ainât cancelling on him.â You shook your head and Tommy sighed. âIt ainât really any of your business either. Joel and I are both consenting adults.â
âHe doesnât know what youâre like.â Tommy sighed and you blinked at him. He didnât know you well enough for the way he was talking to you.
âWhat Iâm like?â You asked, standing up from the porch swing. Tommy looked up from his spot on the porch steps. âTell me, Tommy Miller, what am I like?â
âYou treat it like a game.â Tommy sighed. You wondered if he was brave or just stupid. âYou chew men up and spit âem out. You donât care about hurtinâ them.â
Tommy was leaned with his head back, eyes closed to block out the sun. Like an idiot, he fell for the same complacent safety that everyone in Jackson did. You hadnât quite gotten that lazy yet and so you could see Joel approach.
âGod, Tommy.â You sighed, arms wrapped around yourself. You had yourself twisted away from the direction Joel was approaching from. âI didnât realize you bought into all the rumors. Iâm sorry, Iâll call it off with Joel if you want. I just wanted to get to know him.â
âYou got no idea the things the men in this town say. I know it all.â Tommy sighed. âJust leave Joel out of it.â
âIâm sorry.â You repeated, mouth downturned. âHe was nice to me, ainât too many men been nice to me in my life. He was safe. He stood up to Nolan when he called me a whore the other day. No one ever stood up for me before.â
Tommy looked up when your voice turned thick, suspicious eyes cracked at you. Joel cleared his throat and Tommy knew instantly. You had to give it to Tommy, you liked him. He was loyal to his wife and he took no bullshit from anyone. But he wasnât going to get in your way.
âJoel!â You put as much surprise into your voice as you could without over playing your part. âWe gotta put a bell on you or somethinâ.â
âJoel-â Tommy tried but his brother only shook his head, not listening.
âListen Joel, I hate to do this but I donât think I can have dinner on Friday.â You padded down the porch steps. You hadnât put on actual clothes yet, enjoying a rare day off to lounge around in shorts and a camisole. You knew it was working in your favor when Joel smiled gently at you.
âYou ainât cancelling on me cause my brother is an idiot. Iâm a big boy, I make my own decisions. Iâll be here Friday and youâll eat dinner with me.â Joel insisted and you looked back at Tommy who had his jaw clenched.
âI donât wanna cause any trouble.â You insisted, blinking up at Joel. He only shook his head, raising his hand to tuck some of your hair back. âHonestly Joel, Tommy is right. I got a bit of a reputation with the men in town. I donât know why I canât get it right.â
âLet me worry about Tommy.â Joel promised, a dark glance in the direction of his brother. âItâs just dinner, Sweetheart. I ainât proposing.â
âIf youâre sure? Iâll understand if you-â
âAht. None of that. Iâll be here, with bells on if thatâs what you want. Now if you donât mind Iâm gonna have some words with that brother of mine.â Joel leaned forward and kissed your cheek softly. You smiled up at him and had to shake yourself from the distraction of how gentle his lips felt against you.
âIâm working.â Tommy was sat up on the porch now, eyes narrowed at you both. You fought the urge to smirk at him, you didnât actually want to come between the Miller men. âGot lawns to mow.â
âIâll keep you company. Make sure you ainât running your mouth.â You turned back to Joel with a small smile.
âYou want some lemonade?â You asked him softly and he smiled down at you, nodding.
âHoney, if itâs you offerinâ Iâd probably accept puddle water.â You laughed lightly, heading back for the porch where one very grouchy Tommy Miller was sitting. He narrowed his eyes at you while you passed him and only looked away when Joel cleared his throat.
You paused once you were out of sight and listened to the pair of brothers grumbling at each other.
âYou mind your goddamn business. Iâm a grown man, I think Iâd know if I was being manipulated.â Joel snapped at Tommy who only sighed.
âYou got no idea.â
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âI gotta admit, Iâm impressed.â You were sitting on the counter by your oven, watching Joel cook. Your bare heels were kicking off the cupboard doors under the counter, giving a rhythmic background noise to join the sound of bubbling from the pots. âKind of expected you to be a microwave man.â
âI can be.â He admitted with a laugh and you smiled, staring down at the stir fry he had chosen to cook for you. He claimed it covered all the bases; light enough for the summer heat, filling if you were a vegetarian, and easy enough that getting distracted by talking to you wouldnât ruin the meal. âMost nights Iâll have a baked potato done in the microwave.â
You wrinkled your nose at him but he only shrugged at you. âDonât knock it âtil you try it.â
âIâm gonna knock it. I donât need to try it.â You laughed and hopped off the counter, heading for your drink cabinet. âWhiskey?â
âMm, no. Check my bag there, brought you a little somethinâ.â You smiled at him before ducking into the hallway where he had left his bag. Opening the zip and exposing the contents had you calling Joelâs name in delight.
You carried the bottles back into the kitchen and held them up. Joel laughed at your giddy smile when you placed one bottle down and moved to open the other one. âWhereâd you find actual wine?â
âWe had a patrol a couple of weeks ago into a new town. Found a couple of them.â He told you, watching as you swapped the whiskey glasses for wine ones.
âWould you like a glass now?â You offered and he nodded with a smile when you carried one over to him. âYou really took me seriously.â
âWined and dined, Sweetheart. Iâm a man of my word.â You took your place alongside him again and watched him check that the noodles were cooked. Heâd had to trade a day of labour in the stables for the noodles. He really had pulled out all the stops.
âColor me impressed.â You sipped at your wine and nudged his hip with your knee. âI shouldâve never doubted your skills.â
âAh, I owe you an apology for that. I ainât treating you how I treat other women. I know this isnât just one night.â Joel promised and you smiled softly. âI keep putting my foot in my mouth around you. Canât think straight when it comes to you, I guess.â
âCharmer.â You rolled your eyes and hopped off the counter again. You stole both wine glasses and placed them on the table, bringing Joel the plates so he could serve up dinner.
You had set either side of the small dining room table but Joel only shook his head, moving his place setting so he was sitting at your right hand side, closer than you had put him. âHow are we supposed to get to know each other from that far away?â
âItâs like a foot and a half?â You asked, eyebrows raised. He only shook his head again, settling himself in and taking a sip of his wine. You couldnât help but laugh at him.
You hadnât actually thought about the conversation during dinner and you had the sudden thought that it could be awkward. Joel didnât share those sentiments, talking away about anything that entered his mind.
He was funny, which was surprising. Being hot and having a personality was a rare deal when it came to the men of Jackson. Everything about Joel surprised you. He kept your glass topped up and even washed the dishes when you both finished with the meal.
You found yourself checked up at the end of your sofa, facing Joel who was telling you about running into a giraffe living wild in Salt Lake City. You couldnât believe him, expressing your jealousy.
âIt was kind of surreal like everything Iâve seen in the last twenty five years and a giraffe is what seems the most unrealistic?â Joel laughed. You shifted against the couch cushion with a laugh and the wine in your glass spilled out and splashed your top making you gasp at the cool of it.
âShit, sorry.â You leaned forward, pulling the fabric away from your chest and Joel held a hand out, taking your glass from you. âGimme a second.â
You hurried up to your room, swapping your blouse for another. At the last second you paused in your doorway and swapped your blouse for a thin camisole. Another pause had you unhooking your bra and tossing it in the direction of your hamper. You admired yourself for a moment in the mirror before heading back to Joel.
He held your wine glass out to you with a gentle smile. You took the middle sofa cushion this time, moving you closer to Joel who let his eyes dip down just barely. âIâve always been clumsy.â
âIs that right?â He asked and you nodded, finishing your glass of wine in one final swallow. âMaybe I should head out.â
âYou could.â You nodded, placing your glass on your coffee table. âIn fact you probably should. But I donât want you to.â
âWhat do you want?â Joel asked you softly when you straightened up, inches between your faces. He was holding himself back, you could see it. Any of those other women he wouldâve already pinned to the sofa and fucked them until they screamed.
âI donât do this. I donât do one nights.â You whispered quietly. His jaw clenched and you swallowed nervously. âIt makes me feel cheap and dirty to be used like that and wake up alone in the morning.â
âWhat do you want? Do you want me to leave now? Because Iâll go, Sweetheart.â He promised you softly. âIf you want me to stay and be here when you wake up tomorrow then I will. And Iâll come back for dinner too.â
âAwful presumptuous, Mr Miller.â You laughed, fingers twisting together in an attempt to gather your courage. âStay?â
âSet the pace.â He whispered and his breath fanned against your lips. Your hand moved up to wrap around the back of his neck and pull him closer, your lips pressing to his.
You pressed against him, shifting so that you were straddling his lap, your tongue pressing into his mouth. He pulled you to grind against him, his big hands on your hips. You couldnât help but moaning his name against his mouth. âFeelâs so good.â
âTell me what you want.â He groaned when you shifted in his lap, rubbing right up against him.
âTake me to bed, Joel.â
///
You groaned against you pillow and squinted against the morning sun. You hadnât bothered to pull your curtains last night, what with Joel fucking you into the mattress and all.
The man in question was wrapped around you from behind, still asleep it seemed. Well, most of him was asleep. He was making small aborted moves with his hips, rubbing up against the small of your back.
You shifted against him, turning in his grip to tap at his cheek gently. He shook his head and burrowed into your neck before freezing. You ran your fingers through his hair and scratched at his scalp. âMorning.â
He grunted something that sounded like a good morning and you slid your hand down between you both, circling him in your hand. He pulled his head back and blinked at you. âI think I might a little too sore for round two. But if this is okay?â
âMoreân okay. You donât need to though.â Joel promised and you smiled, pressing a kiss to his cheek, pumping your hand. The little movements he had been making had been enough to have his tip wet. You paused to lick the palm of your hand and resumed your movements. Joel groaned, head tipped back and tendons in his neck straining. âSo fucking good.â
You wrapped one leg up on his hip and every time he bucked into your hand he pressed between your legs. You had no desire to let him push inside of you again but you couldnât help the small moans Everytime he pushed through your wet slit, the head of his cock was kissing your clit.
He took control of the speed, deliberately moving so that you felt each slide of his cock, his own hand closing over yours and tightening your grip. âSo wet for me, Sweetheart. Gotta treat that pussy good after all the abuse I gave it last night.â
You whined against his neck, your breath coming faster. He was hitting against you perfectly and you couldnât remember ever feeling this good with another person before. Your free hand pressed against Joelâs chest, nails digging into his chest. âFucking, right there, please. Please.â
âCum for me. Come on. Cum for me.â Joel demanded and you wanted to scoff at him, the same words coming from the mouth of every man you slept with. But Joel wasnât every man. Joel was better. You shuddered against him as your orgasm hit, your hand falling away from his cock. He took over, pumping himself through his own orgasm which splashed against your stomach.
âFuck.â You pulled away from Joel, the heat and sweat making you grimace. You collapsed onto your back and he did the same, chest raising and falling quickly. âGood morning is right.â
âA very good morning.â He agreed with a grunt. You couldnât help the giggles, pushing yourself out of the bed. âWhereâre you going?â
âTo shower while youâre making that breakfast you promised me.â You reminded him and his brow furrowed.
âI didnât promise breakfast. In fact itâs time you make a meal.â Joel teased with a grin and you shook your head, pulling on your robe.
âYou promised last night. I asked if youâd really stay the night and you said youâd make breakfast.â You reminded him and he scrunched up his face in an effort to remember and you smiled at him, leaning against your dresser.
He looked immaculate in the morning, so big and broad. His chest was covered in hair that tapered down to a trail on his stomach. He looked up and you laughed.
âYou were right about to fuck me? Less than an inch away and I asked you if you would definitely be there when I woke.â You reminded him and he nodded.
âAh yes, I wouldâve promised anything to get into your pussy at that point.â He laughed and you froze in place, your smile slipping from your lips. You pulled your robe tighter around yourself and swallowed.
âIs that right?â You asked, your voice cold. âAnything to get your way, huh?â
He paused, arching his neck up to look at you again. At your expression he pushed up on his elbows and you narrowed your eyes at him. âNot like that. I didnât mean that how it sounded.â
âIâd like you to leave. Now.â You knew what was happening. He had agreed to play the game but now he was changing the rules.
He scrambled up on the bed and got tangled in the blankets. A knock on your front door had him freezing in place. You paused too, wondering who in their right mind was at your door at this hour on a Saturday. You stared at Joel for a second before tying your robe and hurrying down the stairs.
The door swung open to find Ellie who appraised you, eyebrows raised. âTommy said Joel would be here. I need him.â
âYou can have him.â You promised her, turning to find Joel on the stairs, buttoning his shirt. âYouâre needed.â
âYeah, I heard. â Joel said, his voice angry. Ellie looked between you both and shrugged.
âYou didnât come home. Thereâs a leak in the bathroom. Tommy said Iâd find you here.â She explained and Joel looked at you and away again. Tommy had done enough home improvement for you to know one thing.
âOh my god.â You looked between Ellie and Joel and felt physically sick. âYou organized a bail out if you stayed the night.â
âItâs not with it looks like.â Joel promised and you scoffed, tossing his bag at him from the hallway floor.
âGet the fuck out of here. And donât bother coming back.â
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rumours, part two.
part one.
jude bellingham x influencer!reader.
fc: nailea devora.
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groupchat: it girls đ
larray:
ainât no way youâre dating jude fucking bellingham and havenât told us
y/n:
larry istg iâll cut your hair in your sleep if you keep believing those DUMB rumours
oliviarodrigo:
girl
heâs hot asf why donât you shoot your shot?
y/n:
with a footballer?
hell fucking no
these guys donât know what being faithful to one person means
and iâve heard plenty of shit about this jude guy
larray:
yeah me too tbh
y/n:
iâm not getting involved with him, period.
larray:
okay but what about his teammates?
y/n:
larry.
larray:
DO IT FOR ME
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fan1: JUDE LIKED???
fan2: is she lying to us?? bc why would he like her posts now?
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fan10: MOTHER
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y/n:
wtf is wrong with you?
i told you to tell your fangirls to leave me alone and what are you doing? you LIKE my posts and you follow me now?
leave me alone, jude.
judebellingham:
you looked good
you always look good*
are you free, tomorrow night?
y/n:
canât you READ?
LEAVE. ME. ALONEEEEE.
or iâm pressing charges on you hoe.
judebellingham:
so itâs a yes?
iâll send you the tickets and my jersey, someone will come pick you up, whatâs your address?
y/n:
wtf
what do you mean?
judebellingham:
weâre playing against sevilla and i want you to come
y/n:
we donât even know each other tf??
is that how you get all those girls to get obsessed with you?
that ainât gonna work with me, boy.
judebellingham:
hm, i like you already.
y/n:
well, i hate you.
judebellingham:
haha
turns me on, love it.
y/n:
i am BLOCKING you
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i hate him. i fucking hate him. who does he think he is? making me come see him to his stupid game, what am i, his mother? seriously i couldâve stayed at home, binge-watching the twilight movies like i do every year. now i have to go to his fucking football game, itâs going to be so nosy, damn it. and before you ask me, YES i am getting ready and i am wearing his jersey. not because i want to, but i know that i wonât hear the end of it if i donât do it. yeah, iâm doing it because heâs forcing me, no other reason.
like jude said, someone did pick me up to take me to the bernabeu stadium, and i canât believe iâm doing this. the venue is full of fans wearing either their real madrid jerseys or their sevilla jerseys. i can see men, women, kids, elderly people, theyâre all here to have fun and support their favourite team and i have to admit that itâs a cute sight. letâs just hope that they donât kill each otherâs at the end of the match. iâm quickly escorted to the vip section, where friends, family and important people would seat for the game.
"oh my god, is that y/n?" a voice called from behind, i closed my eyes shut, fuck, and walked faster, i shouldâve wore a mask to hide my face. if anyone picture me in this stadium with that motherfuckerâs jersey on, it would end my career and iâm half exaggerating.
thank god, the vip section was secluded from the other people. the game started and i had to admit that it was fun to watch when you werenât really supporting anyone. no stress, just having fun watching men run after a ball, just like dogs. jude was actually good, i never looked him up on the internet to watch his performances, i just knew he was the internetâs favourite whore and girls were thirsting over him. he was good looking, of course, no one could deny that, but more than anything he was annoying as fuck. i surprised myself, cheering for him when he scored a goal, what was wrong with me.
real madrid was actually leading the game with two goals against one. judeâs teammate passed the ball to him and he scored his third goal of the match. okay now, why did this motherfucker just point at the crowd, more specifically towards me? people turned around to see where he was pointing at, but thankfully they couldnât see me. my heart definitely sank when he did that though, seriously what is wrong with this guy! it was a cute gesture, yes, but we werenât dating and i promised myself to never date an athlete, tried it once and promised to never doing it again. jude was everything i hated in a man, he was reckless, cocky, full of himself and he knew he was hot. nothing worse than a guy who knows heâs handsome.
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"how was i?" he asked, this big smile plastered on his face, i wish i could tear it off his face. "fine, i guess." jude made a weird face and put his hands on his hips. "fine? y/n, i was more than fine and you know it, scored three goals and they were all for you." he blew me a kiss and i swore i was about to knock him out. "yeah about that, someone couldâve seen me!" i said, slapping his arm, making him laugh. "darling, thatâs what i wanted." okay, the way he was looking at me may or may have not made my heart skip a beat. "jude, iâm starting to believe that the fans gaslighted you into thinking weâre already dating." he laughed, making my cheeks heat up just a bit. "i just want to give the fans what they want to see." he shrugged and put his arm around my shoulders to start walking out of the changing room. i imediatly pushed his arm away and speed walked in front of him to hide my red cheeks. of course, the bitch was laughing at me, running to catch me and poking my cheeks to mock me. "aww, youâre blushing? i thought you hated me, darling." i put my hands on my cheek. "fuck you! itâs just hot in here!" "itâs literally minus two degrees, y/n."
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y/n: maybe football isnât so bad đ
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judebellingham: like the view? đ
y/n: shut up.
fan1: SHE POSTED JUDE???
fan2: Y/N DID YOU LIE TO US???
y/n: WEâRE JUST FRIENDS GUYS OMG
judebellingham: for now* đ«ą
y/n: jude istgâŠ
fan3: OMGBSJSOSLSLMDMSLZ WTF
fan4: i am literally shitting bricks what the FUCK
fan5: i love the banter lmao theyâre fun
fan6: i ship it tbh
fan7: y/n being a wag for 2024 omg
fan8: i love how sheâs fighting it but we all know how itâs going to end
fan9: Y/N NOOOOOO NOT A FOOTBALLER
oliviarodrigo: well, well, well đ
y/n: please not you too
larray: will you look at THAT
y/n: LARRY SHUT UP IM BEGGING
fan10: lmaoo even her friends are ratting her out
fan11: #savey/n
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insta dms:
y/n:
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
DID YOU REALLY DM POP BASE TO TALK ABOUT US???
judebellingham:
mmh, i donât know what youâre talking about
y/n:
jude bellingham.
judebellingham:
okay maybe i did
BUT I DIDNâT KNOW THEYâD RAT ME OUT LIKE THAT
y/n:
FOR FUCKâS SAKE
judebellingham:
anyways itâs not a big deal tbh
are you free tonight?
y/n:
no.
judebellingham:
nice, iâll come pick you up at 9 <3
y/n:
are you BLIND?
i said no bitch
judebellingham:
suddenly i canât read.
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y/n: get you a man who eats his spaghettis with his hands đ
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judebellingham: i wonder who is this gentleman đ«ą
y/n: yeah i wonder too đ
fan1: pls not jude carrying y/nâs purse
fan2: theyâre so cute stop
fan3: my favourite couple
fan4: PARENTS
fan5: lmao i bet jude is the one who begged her to be his gf
y/n: yes.
fan6: JAISOSPXLDâÂŽS
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I remember hearing that Dana was inspired by True Crime, amongst other things and people IRL, when writing Belos. And it seems that contrary to the notoriety of True Crime fans, she actually understood the assignment.
Because she opted to demystify the serial killer as this dark, unusual psychology that operates outside of societal borders and rules, disturbed by some secret reason, and instead literally pull off the mask to reveal heâs just some white manchild who hates women and minorities to a violent degree, because he feels threatened by them and their ability to say No in his entitlement. Thereâs nothing special or unique about his motives.
Heâs no exception to the status quo, he is it unmasked of the veneer of civility, heâs the lynch mob and the cop (all of whom inherit the violence of white supremacy and colonialism) and fittingly a lot of serial killers were clocked by women and PoC as dangerous, but cops âlargely white menâ dismissed their claims because look at this dude, he seems like an upstanding citizen! And thatâs really how he got away.
And because his victims were people the system was less likely to believe because they both operated on the same biases, you see why a lot of cops who commit brutality are drawn to an institution where theyâre given violent power over brown and/or queer communities who are labeled as âsuspiciousâ, because they enjoy easy targets they know the system doesnât care about, and are enraged by body cams and accountability.
It doesnât matter if theyâre intentionally bigoted, their support of an inherently bigoted institution makes them the same; Internalized biases and âI donât see raceâ and all that. You see how Philip wanted to be a witch hunter âthe prototypical cop who is not exclusively violent towards women but still has a clear slantâ or colonial savior so bad, because his violence could be legitimized by the authority of the state.
He leans into it hardcore when he feels threatened by the presence of an outside girl who challenges the Christian narrative of Gravesfield, to the point of violence; Itâs a position that validates killing anyone who doesnât agree with him in general, hence Caleb and the Grimwalkers, but of course his and societyâs biases slant towards women and PoC. And while it ultimately doesnât matter whether heâs intentionally racist/misogynistic, itâs worth addressing that he very much does have the intention due to his blatant Conservative backdrop.
And seeing how charming Philip is and the portrayal of him as a little kid playing games in his youth, a perception Caleb mightâve still had which led to his death, I can see the direct line to families who find out their sons are school shooters and are in disbelief because he was such a nice kid! While ignoring the obvious Red Flags because white men are allowed to express these without being immediately scrutinized by the community, by having it brushed off. On some level cops donât suspect him because heâs the same type of guy as them.
Part of that denial comes from the fact that heâs not an âunfeeling sociopathâ whoâs wired differently. Philip can feel empathy and guilt like anyone else, but heâs still a hateful prick and these arenât mutually exclusive; Not when people can be perfectly selective about who they extend these feelings towards, or even do things in spite of these feelings, because other ones âanger and pride and hatredâ exist and they choose to prioritize those. Thereâs an assumption that empathy and guilt inherently make you a good person, but they donât; That ultimately comes from what you do about it, not how you feel.
You could even say Dana and the other writers wrote him too well, because true to life, we have a similar issue but on a micro-scale via the abstraction of fiction regarding a very dedicated fan base who loves to romanticize him and his actions, attributing his issues to some secret trauma in childhood, a young man failed by society! While also scrubbing him of his racism and misogyny and reliance on the status quo, to make him âapoliticalâ and you can see the same not just with fans but also in society.
Because society doesnât want to acknowledge serial killers as just the truth behind their white sons and the system that absolved and encourages them, because that would require them to admit their guilt in how theyâre structured. Rather, theyâll say these men reflect some dark truth inherent to humanity, and donât exist within a certain sociopolitical framework.
And so he was a âlonerâ whose problems can be pathologized via mental illness, his trauma can be traced back to a specific incident in his youth he just couldnât get over. So you see how school shooters are made into victims, how serial killers are also made apolitical and even alien to distance them from the status quo.
And then you can lean into how unusual they are by writing characters like Dexter or Hannibal Lecter, you can not just defend the system but feed into it via the commodification of their violence as entertainment and consumption, and thus fuel the white supremacy train by letting their violence towards women and minorities be praised as something fascinating and interesting and conveniently clean of bigotry. This is the dichotomy of the hypothetical, romanticized Fantasy Serial Killer, and the banal IRL Serial Killer.
Thus we have the same cycle of white menâs violence being praised and validated by the system, and white men feeling entitled to this fame as a delusional fantasy. Because youâve never heard of a black serial killer; Because black people are violent, thatâs just the way they are, right? But if white men are violent, this is sensationalized as somehow unusual and fascinating and worth dedicating countless books and shows and movies towards. Obviously.
And even going back to witch hunters, sometimes I wonder about the constant consideration of, What if witches did exist? What if they were evil? Things like The VVitch or The Conjuring series, which have some framing of the Salem Witch Trialsâ IRL violence towards women as legitimate in another universe, because of Satanismâs genuine predatory threat towards women, and how evil women sacrifice theirs or othersâ God-given gift of a child, and now threaten another white Christian family.
And again thereâs the the demystifying of the real life witch hunter too when we have a historical reenactment declare verbatim that IRL witch hunters were motivated by economics and other banal factors, not by any genuine belief in the dangers of demons; And even in a setting where the demons were real, they were not the predatory threat IRL witch hunters made them out to be, and so their very real biases and ulterior motives still apply in cumulative insincerity.
Hence, the Titan correcting Luz by explaining Belos as someone who only cares about being the hero in his own delusion; The fascist wet dream of a hidden invader here to corrupt even young white men, an outside monster to vanquish and whose destruction justifies the state, when in reality the monster IS the state, and before he was even presented as a witch (much less the human truth), his systemâs destruction was called for.
Ultimately, a lot of True Crime and similar narratives are criticized for focusing more on this apparently inevitable mystique behind the perpetrators, who warrant far more attention than their victims. So when the villain is an example of True Crime, itâs worth noting how the show is so much more focused on the âweirdoesâ he targets, on women and/or PoC. The lives of Luz Noceda and her friends, them getting along and their psychologies, are just so much more important, and it really isnât about that guy, who is informed as much as he needs to be.
But again, the True Crime fans dilemma; People genuinely salty at the show for not focusing on their favorite serial killer and his troubled backstory, his tragic motives and Puritan repression. The framing of his murders and motives isolated through the lens of his violence on undeserving white men, and not on the out-group he is specifically targeting and has committed much more violence on, esp if you look at the narrativeâs actual framing of his impact on our protagonists, but also other victims who are witches or demons, and even his own self-professed motives; Hence, âFratricide Georgâ as a joke depoliticized of his colonial violence, a violence that is not just adjacent to but fulfilling racism.
Because he hallucinated only those white men out of guilt, but thatâs his biased perspective and priorities; And so you see how this is contrasted with a refusal to empathize with people like the Collector or Luz, who are put into the same situations as his white male victims via shared cinematography, yet are just as rejected. Luz is only put into this situation as convenient to Belosâ narrative, the closest replacement to a white male human he can get, but again if this girl of color says No, he tries to murder her and even does.
Yet again, people take genuine, personal insult at the creator for finding Belos to be her least favorite character to write, while ignoring that she still found him necessary to the story she was trying to tell; She just found the framing and focus shouldâve been shifted to his actual victimsâ deep and meaningful lives, how they matter. So people hate that S3 cares more about Luz Nocedaâs relationship with her parents of color, as well as her female mentor and demonic brother, or her queer relationship with her girlfriend, etc.
And even when they get a bone of white boy Hunter, itâs still not enough; Fans inevitably gather themselves into an almost frenzied state of personal victimization, rallying into harassment of PoC who criticize their portrayal and discussion around their colonial serial killer fave, organizing dedicated trends and months to giving their white men the focus they âdeservedâ, because this is just White fandom in general.
Look at the entitlement campaigns regarding Ben Solo or Billy Hargroves deserving better, these young white men violent to women and minorities. Itâs just the same thing but on a micro-scale, at least filtered via fictional characters. But Jesus you see how internalized biases bleed into everything. Youâve never heard of a black serial killer and fandom doesnât fight for characters of color.
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do you think forgiving rapists / abusers is necessary for healing? i've been reading a lot of essays and articles that all basically boil down to the same thesis: i couldn't heal until i forgave him. many of them also say that they wanted to reject the idea that survivors are all angry and want their rapists / abusers to die, which is something i have been struggling to find anywhere. there's margaret cho [Margaret Cho Explains Why She Wants To Kill Her Rapist] but beyond that i couldn't find much on this topic aside from people criticizing it.
there seems to be a consensus that all survivors want is accountability. all they want is their rapist / abuser to admit they did it and apologize. and then that's it? what about the research that sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated? there is no known program to rehabilitate sex offenders that works in any meaningful way. they go through the program(s), learn how to game the system, get released, and immediately go back to harming women and girls.
why is it so taboo to hate them? hating them doesn't make us the same as them. it's quite literally the opposite. they love the violence they do and we abhor it, there is no way anyone can look at it and say our hatred is just as bad as theirs. we hate them for what they do, they hate women and girls for what we are. massive difference. if they don't want to be hated, they shouldn't rape. it's that simple.
i think a reason why it's generally frowned upon to want any kind of meaningful justice or to hold any rage or hatred in your heart for rapists is because men as a whole are aware of how many of their own are rapists. they know that if every rapist was imprisoned or killed, there would be maybe 5% of men left in the general population. and that scares them. i wish we lived in the world they think we live in, the one where being a rapist and being called out for it means your life is ruined or even ended. wouldn't that be nice.
#radblr#notes#i'm going to keep doing research on this topic tho so this isn't my final opinion by any means#i might compile a reading list if i find enough resources#i heard judith herman's new book deals with this topic.... will definitely have to pick that up soon
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The Pinnacle of Self-Hatred: A Close-Reading on Elliot Rodger's Manifesto
âI named it the Day of Retribution. It would be a day in which I exact my ultimate retribution and revenge on all of the hedonistic scum who enjoyed lives of pleasure that they donât deserve. If I canât have it, I will destroy it. I will destroy all women because I can never have them. I will make them all suffer for rejecting me⊠And I will slaughter them like the animals they are.â (Rodger, 2014, p. 101)
On the Friday evening of May. 23, 2014, Elliot Rodger had perpetrated the Isla Vista Killings. A series of stabbings and shootings that claimed the lives of six people, injured fourteen, and concluded with his own death from a fatal self-inflicted gunshot wound on the head. Before this, Elliot was like any other normal teenager growing up.
As he mentioned in his own manifesto, he had a seemingly good childhood up until his parentâs divorce. Even until the separation, he still spent time with both sides of his family, maintaining the privilege to have access to many luxurious items such as a collection of designer clothes and even a BMW 328i. He traveled a lot, and at just the age of one, he had already traveled to France, Sussex, Malaysia (where his mother grew up), Spain, Greece, and California.
People on platforms such as Reddit often questioned why no one considered dating him at all. Elliot had also asked himself this question time and time again. In one of his youtube videos, entitled, âWhy do girls hate me so muchâ he says:
âIâve been attending college in Santa Barbara for two and a half years now, in those two and a half years I have experienced nothing but loneliness and misery, and my problem is girls. There are so many beautiful girls here, but none of them give me a chance and I donât know why. I donât know why you girls are so repulsed by me.â
While it is easy to dismiss that Elliot solely acted upon his crime because he thought that girls were the problem, upon the surface where misogyny lies, there are layers upon layers of complexities that shaped his views. Elliot did not simply hate women and men who got with women he dreamed of, it was that ultimately, he hated himselfâa hatred that manifested toward outward factors.
Elliot has exhibited a long string of stunted self-worth ever since he was a child, and while it is easy to throw around names like: monster and pure-evil; the fact remains: he is still considered a human amongst all those. One who is consumed by insecurity.
In understanding a crime, we must first examine the criminal and approach their case with empathy. Understanding the human aspect of these criminals does not however mean that one should excuse, dismiss, or condone their actions. Only understand the reasons behind their motivations. Here are some aspects I have noticed in his personality and life that may be able to better explain why.
MATERIALISM AND INSECURITY
In his manifesto entitled: âMy Twisted Worldâ, Elliot had confessed to having lived a good childhood. He was a nice kid who lived a nice life, up until his parentâs rocky divorce. While reading his manifesto, I have garnered his tendency to place his worth on materialistic things, moreso, his wealth. There were two instances of this on pages thirty to thirty-one of his manifesto. The first was when he was hesitant to invite his new friend from school over to his house because he was ashamed of his wealth:
âI was a bit hesitant to invite anyone from Pinecrest to my motherâs house, because it was located in Canoga Park, a bad area, and most of the kids at Pinecrest were upper-middle class who would look down on me for living there.â
On page thirty one of his manifesto, Elliot said that he was eager to receive an Xbox solely because many kids from his school wanted it:
âMy mother bought me a brand new video game console, the Xbox. I heard a lot of kids talking about how great the Xbox was at school, so I was really eager to have one.â
This trait had continued on to his older years. In the same video where he questioned why girls disliked him so much, he stated:
âI do everything I can to appear attractive to you. I dress nice. I am sophisticated and magnificent. I have a nice car, a BMW.â
From this, itâs observable that Elliot tends to desire things just because other kids desire it too. This is rooted in his craving of validation and acceptance. This materialistic need for validation also transcended from mere objects to even his own appearance. Whenever he did not have what others had or wanted, he would be very ashamed of himself.
At the age of six, Elliot had moved to Topanga Elementary Charter School, a school based in California. The school has a thirty two per-cent minority rate, making seventy eight per-cent of the ethnicity population white. With the population being predominantly white, Elliot had developed a view on the world that separates people by their differences: the âcool kidsâ and the âlosersâ. Mostly, Elliot described these cool kids as the higher-class, privileged, centered on attention, and white.Â
âI realized, with some horror, that I wasnât âcoolâ at all. I had a dorky hairstyle, I wore plain and uncool clothing, and I was shy and unpopular. I was always described as the shy boy in the past, but I never really thought my shyness would affect me in a negative way, until this point. This revelation about the world, and about myself, really decreased my self-esteem. On top of this was the feeling that I was different because I am of mixed race. I am half White, half Asian, and this made me different from the normal fully-white kids that I was trying to fit in with.â
He even dyed his hair blonde and tried to pick up on skateboarding because he thought it would make him appear more cool. On his manifesto he wrote:
âMy first act was to ask my parents to allow me to bleach my hair blonde. I always envied and admired blonde-haired people, they always seemed so much more beautiful.â (Rodger, 2014, p. 17)
âI then started to notice that all of the cool kids were interested in skateboarding. I had never even ridden on a skateboard before, but if I wanted to be cool, I had to become a skateboarder.â (Rodger, 2014, p. 18)
This materialism had soon influenced his fixation on racial hierarchy. Elliot in his older years constantly demeaned and berated others of asian descent even if he was half-malaysian himself. To him, he considered whiteness as a prestige. On platforms such as reddit and facebook, he had made several negative comments regarding the appearance of some Asian men.Â
A comment he had left on a reddit thread stated:
âFull Asian men are disgustingly ugly and white girls would never go for you. Youâre just butthurt that you were born an asian piece of shit, so you lash out by linking these fake pictures. You even admit that you wish you were half white. Youâll never be half-white and youâll never fulfill your dream of marrying a white woman. I suggest you jump off a bridge.âÂ
The paragraph entails Elliot calling out a man for linking fake pictures of himself. Elliot speculates that the man had done this because he wished he was white, then he tells him how he was not considered as attractive because he was simply born Asian. Elliot was also very fixated on his looks, specifically his height. He had repeatedly mentioned his envy of other boys and even girls who were taller than him.
On page fifteen of his manifesto, he wrote:
âAs Fourth Grade started, it fully dawned on me that I was the shortest kid in my class â even the girls were taller than me. In the past, I rarely gave a thought to it, but at this stage I became extremely annoyed at how everyone was taller than me, and how the tallest boys were automatically respected more. It instilled the first feelings of inferiority in me, and such feelings would only grow more volatile with time.â
In other instances, he also noted that he was bullied for being physically weak and short, and often he would blame this solely on his descent. He saw being mixed as a form of inferiority because this made him âundesirableâ. His image of attractiveness is measured by euro-centric features: fair-skinned, blonde, blue eyes, and tall. In many instances, he changed parts of himself to better fit the narrative of being âcoolâ.
To him, itâs all a part of growing up and fitting in, but what he failed to see is that the more he takes and changes parts of himself for people to like him, the more it just makes him hollow. Elliotâs childhood and teen years, best summed up, is a fixation on trying to keep up with those who are higher on the social status ladder and this continued to his later years.Â
EARLY EXPOSURE TO PORNOGRAPHY AND SEXIST MEDIAÂ
Elliot was lonelier during his teen years, at 13 years old, he stopped having contact with his only friends because they started having their own separate lives together, making him spend more time alone by himself (Rodger, 2014, p. 38). This was when Elliot recounted his first-time exposure to pornography by catching a teenager watch it in an arcade called Planet Cyber. He re-called it as a traumatizing experience, confused on why such an explicit thing would be considered as âloveâ. Despite this, his innocence was damaged by this accidental exposure. Though he did feel aroused, he was more guilty and confused.
âOne time while I was alone at Planet Cyber, I saw an older teenager watching pornography. I saw in detail a video of a man having sex with a hot girl âŠÂ I didnât know anything about sex at the time. I barely even knew what sex was. I was slowly starting to develop sexual feelings for hot girls, but I didnât know what to do with them. To see this video really traumatized me. I had no idea what I was seeing⊠I couldnât imagine human beings doing such things with each other. The sight was shocking, traumatizing, and arousing. All of these feelings mixed together took a great toll on me. I walked home and cried by myself for a bit.â (Rodger, 2014, p. 38-39)
This was the pinnacle of Elliotâs misery. A kid who searched for validation with his looks, now searched for it in sexual gratification as well. He only found himself loved if people flocked over to him. Furthermore, he had this distorted mindset that his worth is only measured by how many girls he could get and how fast he'd lose his virginity. This can be akin to the stereotypical portrayals of boys in media that often influenced teens and their concept of self-worth: the "cool" guys having lots of girls, while nerds and "losers" have none.
With this type of thinking, he tried his best to gain things that he thought women would like, yet he did little to no effort to actually get to know them and socialize. He believed that just because he had what others wanted or did not, people would love him. According to his friends, they thought he was almost always one-sided, expecting women to just swoon over him because he has things that are desirable.
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Furthermore, despite his initial pleasant middle school years at Pinecrest High, such as dancing with a girl during a school dance (Rodger, 2014, p. 29), socializing eventually became difficult for Elliot. Often, this is because of his appearance, where he experienced bullying because of his height. According to his friends, he barely talked to women but still complained no woman wanted to talk to him.Â
Elliot was easily persuaded and subjected to peer-pressure because he had no clear identity. He always followed what was the trend because it made him feel less insecure about himself, since it was what he thought the people accepted and desired.
Despite his insecurities, Elliot had a fine record for being privileged, which he used to his advantage to "fix" certain qualities in himself that he deemed undesirable. Ever since he was younger, he often used his wealth to modify certain aspects of himself, even the smallest things: dyeing his hair blonde, purchasing designer clothes to appear more attractive and rich, purchasing mass amounts of body-building pills, and only picking up hobbies such as skateboarding and basketball solely because he found them useful in climbing up the social ladder.
Elliot also had a strong dislike for people who did not support his motivations. He expressed a strong resentment toward is step-mother, Soumaya, because of her assertive nature. He considered his dad to be âweakâ for following her orders around, when in truth, she was only trying to teach Elliot a lesson about independence.Â
âNot only did she kick me out of fatherâs house, but she forbade me to go there even for a short visit. And still, father didnât do anything about it. Father kept saying that the house is her house as much as his, and that she has the right to kick me out. No! I am the eldest son! The house should be MY house before hers! This caused any respect I still had for my father to fade away completely. It was such a betrayal, to put his second wife before his eldest son. What kind of father would do that? The bitch must be really good to him in bed, I figured. What a weak man.â (Rodger, 2014, p. 62)
At his step-motherâs insistence, Elliot began looking for a job and eventually found work from a family friend who offered him a job for a house construction project. He felt more comfortable with it, seeing the job as helping rather than typical employment. After getting his driverâs license, Elliot enrolled in summer classes at Moorpark College but struggled with attendance, again, due to his jealousy of campus couples.
He dropped out midway through, briefly worked as a janitor at an airport office, and quit after one day. Knowing his mother would be upset, he re-enrolled at Moorpark but eventually dropped out again (Rodger, 2014, p. 70). Upon learning of Elliotâs decision to drop out again, his parents decided he would move to Santa Barbara, where he would live alone in an apartment paid for by his mother, receive a $500 monthly allowance from his father, and enroll in classes at Santa Barbara Community College (Rodger, 2014, p. 77).Â
CONCLUSION
Elliot is very persistent on the idea that to be accepted, he needed to be loved, when in truth, he couldn't bear to accept himself. No one has absolutely any obligation to love someone because the other sees it as a form of validation. Self-worth comes from yourself, not from others. Due to Elliotâs constant fixation on trying to be accepted, he lost the identity that made him authentic and genuine. He lost what other people could not give him: self-worth.
Concluding, Elliot Rodger is a complex individual that cannot be summed up to one set character. He is not solely âpure evilâ, he is a person with a background that influenced his decisions. He is not less deserving of humanity or empathy because just like others, he had also felt humane emotions. With criminals, it is always important to remember that to understand a certain event or phenomena of crime, we also have to understand not just the perpetrator that the media portrays, which is often easily pushed into a oversimplified narrative of âpure evilâ; we must also consider the genuine person behind the crime.Â
While it is important to recognize that these are profoundly disturbed individuals who must be held accountable for their actions, it is also crucial to understand that despite their crimes, they still remain human. Although, this does not mean that his background excuses or condones his actions. It only provides a framework to comprehensively understand both the case and the criminal behind it.Â
#elliot rodger#isla vista 2014#understandnotcondone#infopost#analysis#updated version of my first elliot analysis. yay!
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Here are my ranking of characters in the caraval/ouabh world (it's long read at ur own risk)
1.jacks ..duh
The archer? The prince of hearts? Imagine having more iconic titles than these!
I really love his character it's very well written. He's not the typical morally gray who is always grumpy he has a really good sense of dark humor, which adds more to his character. Bro also literally dyed his hair blue after he got his heart broken, and he eats apple to stop his urge from kissing? I can't..đ the way he teased eva? Hehehe, he had me giggling. I love sm their banter! Also, don't get me started on "there's nothing of equal value to me" bro just take my heartđ𫶠also him trying to teach eva how to defend herself then come saving her each time>>>
2.Evangeline
She literally the softest character and she didn't lose her feminine vibes and got cold because the world was against her she fought for what she believes in and LITERALLY THE FIRST FMC TO CONFEESS TO THE ML also she's vulnerable and forgiving she still had progress at the end ! She's the best example of coquette girl đđ©· she isn't blinded by revenge like other mc she just want to live happily with jacks and she didn't sit and wish for it to happen she fought for love! She confessed to Jacks , and she kissed him herself! she's one of my favorite FMC!đ„°đ
3.Scarlett
Scarlett is the most caring person she always put other needs above herself, especially if it comes to her sister since she was her only family I think when their mother left she felt like she had to fill that role since older sister kinda have a protective side to their younger siblings she even was ready to marry a man by his letters for that, I'm so glad she meet Julian because they just fit together! The way she was ready to make him hate her just so he can be free... I love that woman, a true empress indeedâ€ïžâđ„â€ïžâđ„â€ïžâđ„đ€
4. Julian santos
I will try to keep it short from now! I love that men the way he only had was following his brother's script, but he was ready to change it just for her , bro even gave a day from his life for her so she'd wake up to not miss the game. He got a crimson tattoo to not forget herđ he was ready to fight to save her at the end ! They're literally my babies..đđalso we're getting his pov in the spectacular heheheheđ€
5. Lala
I just love iconic women who love fashion, ngl. I was mad at her when I learned she was responsible for the curse, but in the end jacks did worse thingsđ, plus she did save eva she also supported her till the end!girlie was ready to kill aurora for her! Also, I hope she can finally find love, and it lasts! I need a book for her with chaos, hehehe đ€
6.chaos
Ok, i was mad when he killed eva, but I get it. I can't imagine being turned to a vampire, then had to wear a helmet for God knows how many years that prevent me from drinking blood. It's not like he had control on himself, but I'm sure he was traumatized when he realized what he did! I'm so curious to learn more about him too, and plus he did have iconic moments that made me giggle đ€ I also have a thing for vampires ...đđ
7. Dontella
Ok, to be honest, I'm neutral about her. I don't like her nor hate her. Yes, she was annoying sometimes, but do I think that she deserves to HATED ? No hate is a strong word. Also, I actually would defend her from the people who accuse her of not caring about scarlet.. I mentioned it before in another post..
8.legend
Ok, cool, sometimes , but ugh, I hate how he treated Julian sm...also the whole grandma thing...ik he's immortal and old, but why stephanie?đ
I'm not a fan of him. Also neutral although he does have moments I enjoyed, like when he visited tella Dreams or some moments as dante, i hope he grows on me in spectacular đ
#caraval series#caraval#ouabh#a curse for true love#tbona#jacks of the hollow#jacks the prince of hearts#evangeline fox#evajacks#legend#dante santos#donatella dragna#scarlett dragna#julian santos#lala oabh#chaos ouabh#stephanie garber
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Ted infodumping:
OKAY. Ted is so horrifically mischaracterized that I donât even really know where to begin. Iâm fresh on my Ted lore because I spent the whole night listening to the audiobook and tweaking out like a nerd đ
Book Ted is so interesting. Without considering game lore, a lot of people seem to think of him as just a cold, self righteous misogynist. However, the thing is that Ted HATES himself. All of his paranoid delusions stem from insecurity, but the way he frames it in the narrative sounds like heâs âbragging.â
âThey hated me because I was the youngestâ and âI was the least affectedâ both sound like points of insecurity for him. Not that he wanted to be tortured more, but in the sense that he was aware he suffered less, and he was insecure of the fact that it was obvious. Ted watched as Benny was transformed from a handsome, normal guy to a straight up ape, and he seems to use that as a comparison point for the other torture they experience. Like, âWell, I donât have it as rough as Benny, and my mind is still intact because I would know if it wasnât!â is essentially what Ted was getting at.
Based on how the canned food incident was mentioned in the game during Bennyâs route, it can be assumed that the game takes place shortly after the book (seeing as itâs still only been 109 years), and obviously Ted and Ellen didnât get to kill everyone.
Tedâs route and section in the game strategy guide highlight the reasons why he is the way he is. He was basically groomed by an older woman when he was 19. He had no education, and was forced to work as a mechanic. Then, this woman shows up and shows him the high life; he doesnât even realize heâs being used by older women for his body.
Notice in his route, Ted never offers to sleep with the maid or the witch.. they offer it to HIM. And itâs not necessarily even an âofferâ, itâs in exchange for something. Ted has always used intimacy as a way to get something, and that explains why he has such a cynical view of Ellen. She services the men to try and keep them sane, but Ted canât seem to fully understand how itâs a selfless act. He has always attributed sex as a means to barter, and hereâs a woman having sex with them for âno reason.â Seeing as he couldnât make her finish, that furthers in his mind that sheâs not getting anything from him, so WHY is she doing it? It doesnât help that AM altered her to make her crave intimacy more, but Ted canât escape his own disturbed views of sex, and so he blames Ellen for her service.
Then in the game, the reason I think heâs suddenly switched up so fast was because he saw the opportunity to be the fairytale hero that he always imagined being. In the game strategy guide it mentions how he felt cheated because he already saw Ellen as /his/ partner (or something like that), so now he had an opportunity to play the part of a gallant knight for the damsel in distress.
FUN THING TO NOTE!! In Ellenâs route sheâs obviously very self-sufficient and intelligent. Sheâs strong, too. However, every time Ted narrates something (such as the book or his route) he perceives her as weak and emotional; when she doesnât seem the type. Sheâs KIND, compassionate. Ted sees that as a form of feminine weakness. It makes you wonder if you can ever trust anything he said about her in the book, from her crying to her âemotional outburstsâ. Ted is 100% an unreliable narrator, but people donât seem to realize just how unreliable he is.
Another thing worth considering is that Ellen has Tedâs infatuation purely because she is the last woman on Earth. There is no other woman for Ted to run to, and he desperately needs the company/affection. Instead of coming to the terms with the fact that heâd never truly have something genuine, he deludes himself with the IDEA of Ellen (I assume his ideal version of her is the one in his route â pliant and submissive). He doesnât love her for her, he loves this handcrafted idea that heâs built of her.
I personally think a lot of Tedâs inner hate towards Ellen in the book was also because he was jealous. She gave Benny a lot of attention because he was objectively the one that had the most shit going on (I mean⊠monkey đ) and Ted immediately assumed the only reason she must like him is because heâs got a big package. This all ties back to Ted viewing sex as a bartering tactic. She doesnât give Ted that gentle attention, and he can never make her finish. âTherefore, Ellen must give Benny tons of attention because heâs a good lay!â Is what I think his thought process was.
Now, this might be a crazy take, but I also think Ted projects his potential sexual trauma onto Ellen. He was used by older women throughout his young adult life, and he may not know it, but having sex with them to maintain his finances and social status mustâve been traumatic to some extent. But, he could never realize that, this happened in a time period where people were even more likely to not believe a male victim. Ellen takes him out of turn to thank him for going with them to get the canned goods, and all Ted can seemingly think about is how she MUST be using him. She was just trying to do something nice for him, but Ted is so tangled in his own paranoia and delusion that he canât fathom why sheâd do something nice for him.
Sorry if this doesnât make sense I just woke up but ooooh I love Ted lore so much ugh!!!
yâall get him so well and this was sm fun to read THANK YOU!!!!
#ted i have no mouth and i must scream#i have no mouth and i must scream#ihnmaims#ted ihnmaims#sick ass character analysis
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