#why are they so hannigram coded

[reingkings]

Gi-hun can’t hold grudges, and what that means for Inhun/457.

I was thinking of this the other day. I don’t consider myself to be the type of person who holds grudges, but looking at Gi-hun I feel like he puts me to shame.

Disclaimer: I don’t hate the following characters this is just an analysis.

Example A: Sae-byeok. We all love her in the fandom, but if you think about it– Gi-hun only knew her a couple of days. The first time they met, she stole from him causing him a lot of trouble. When they met again, she didn’t even apologize and was generally rude. And yet, Gi-him was willing to put his life on the line to defend her from 101. And then, he was willing to fight Sang-woo for her. He goes on to take care of her brother for her, too.

Example B: Speaking of Sang-woo, he betrayed Gi-hun pretty early on during dalgona. I think to some extent Gi-hun knew this but he still let it go. He only got angry when Sang-woo pushed the other player during the bridge game, then with Sae-byeok. And yet, even in the end when Sang-woo tried to kill him (and stabbed him through the hand) and he needed the money for his mother’s treatment - he was willing to leave the money so they could both leave alive.

Example C: The loan shark. Dude literally beat him up, humiliated him, and made him sign an agreement to sell his organs. And yet, in season 2, Gi-huh is willing to team up with them and pay them to help find the Salesman.

Example D: Jung-bae. Jung-bae is definitely another favorite, and I think we definitely have a bias towards him, but objectively he was not the greatest friend. For one, he was the one who introduced Gi-hun to horse racing, precipitating Gi-hub’s money troubles. When Gi-hun needed his help, he also didn’t lend Gi-hun money for his mother’s treatment (I don’t think he necessarily was to blame for her death, but it is a huge disappointment). They fell out of contact and reunited in the game, where he betrayed Gi-hun again by voting O. This is particularly cold-hearted when you think about the fact that the money pool would only only climb if more players die the next game. That’s what the O’s bank on. Yet, Gi-hun was never able to stay angry, and trusted him to the very end.

It kind of shows that Gi-hun can’t really distinguish from good or bad, and he is uniquely soft-hearted. If someone kicked while he was down, he would probably apologize.

To someone like In-ho, who pretty much seems to be the opposite of Gi-hun in every possible way, I think this kind of attitude makes him angry. But I think at the same time it’s what causes his obsession. In a self-indulgent evil world with bored rich people, organ traffickers, and cannibals (probably) — a person like Gi-hun is an impossibility.

Therefore, in order to satisfy his curiosity, In-ho has to test the boundaries of Gi-hun’s humanity. He’s willing to indulge Gi-hun without letting him escape. (For example, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Salesman was at the airport when Gi-hun was ready to leave for America. This has In-ho written all over it). He lets Gi-hun join the games, but he won’t let him keep the tracker. He lets the players vote each round, but ensures the X’s are never the majority. He lets Gi-hun stage a rebellion, but won’t let him succeed.

And yet, In-ho would rather let Gi-hun think he died than reveal to Gi-hun that he is the Frontman – arguably something that would hurt him even more.

Is this subconsciously a way out that he’s leaving himself? He knows Gi-hun could forgive him being a coward, because Gi-hun is capable of forgiving anything.

Or is it something worse. I think if you meet someone that can forgive anything, then the most special existence to that person — isn’t it the one person they are capable of hating?

[puppydoggraham]

(source for poem: two-bees-poetry)

[begun-to-blur]

what is it about hannibal that gets such a death grip over all of us... like yes i adore the show, yes every time i watch it i notice something new, yes there's a million beautiful interpretations ... but that doesn't really explain why it comes up in my mind multiple times daily. everything can and will be a hannibal reference.

[lizzwill]

I find myself thinking about an unstable dog enthusiast and his murderer boyfriend way too often

[ineffably-graham]

why is abo so much more prominent in hannigram fics than any other ship or fandom i've even seen

what is it about these two?

[goingmadss]

will be like:

[xblackmariahx]

quotes from me while watching hannibal to convince you to watch it

"are they fucking or fighting?" "who is this DIVA. no but seriously who the fuck is this diva." "aww yes sesbian lex" "is he sailing to europe? good luck babe" "i feel like i'm tripping" "this is so curly mouthwashing coded" "this has got to be a fetish of some sort" "D D DIVA" "hello my autistic baddie!" "put a shirt on slut" "the bitch is back and life is great again" "i am wheezing just call him a slur at this point" "*to the tune of hot to go* A-U-T-I-S-M, you have fucking autism" "pardon me while i bust" "he legitimately has more dogs than friends doesn't he" "oh hey that is literally my worst nightmare" "please step on me" "turning the brightness all the way up" "nevermind that's a dead body" "sir you are on drugs and i don't just mean aspirin" "ooh girl please don't have a traumatic breakdown in the middle of your lecture" "this show is a fucking comedy" "just give some kids weed not hands jesus fuck" "OH MY GOD?" "oh hey i got stabbed too. slash joke you guys." "i can excuse some recreational cannibalism" "HOLY SHIT! is that a motherfucking RADIOHEAD reference?" "oh hey look it's 1/2 of bananagrams" "ehehehe she's so hot. ehehehe he's so hot. ehehehe everyone is so hot." "she's a ten but the narrative will not give her a fucking break" @grilmo-bartlett: "special agent. special. me: "actually he's the agent of autism" grlm: "I'm special agent autism here to solve a murder" me: "that's me!" "NO MY HONEY SUGAR BOO ICON" "sweetie pie! sweetie pie sweetie pie sweetie pie angel" "why is this episode just called egg in french. i'm cackling." "THIS IS HOMOPHOBIA LET HER GO" "that's a lesbianism" "why are you speaking FRENCH in ITALY" "my poor baby. she killed a man." "hannibal, you gaslighting bitch (affectionate)" "'wlw hannibal' this 'butchfemme hannigram' that. motherfucker just watch killing eve." "OH WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT" "babygirl can't die but babygirl can get framed for murder" "that's horrible and a little kinky" "i do love when women have guns" "doing a bunch of murders because i'm thirsting over a blond man" "NOOOOOOOOOO MY THIRD FAVORITE DILF" "you were just as horny as the rest of us" "yes baddie! commit that murder!" "my babygronk is back! you should not have survived that!" "brunette bisexuals who fucked the same dude" "HELLO my beautiful lesbian babies! you will fall in love, all in due time!" "i am no better than a man" "hey so i'm actually sobbing" "i am violently crashing out. i hate this show (lying)" "they hate to see lesbians winning" "my fictional girlfriend just died, is this my sign to start flirting with real girls?" "baby's first time kissing a lesbian! it will not be his last!" "i think that's enough hannibal for today"

[batcels]

why are they so hannigram coded...

"I let you know me, see me. I gave you a rare gift, but you didn't want it."

[graythursday]

why are they so hannigram coded here

[puppydoggraham]

Hannibal and Will on the reality show Traitors except when people get ‘murdered’ in the show, Hannibal (who is a traitor) actually kills them and they turn up dead. Will starting as a faithful and Hannibal eventually tries to recruit him to be a traitor

[crosswire]

I don’t even Go Here im just lurking the waltjesse tag and seeing your takes on them just. yes. will saying to Hannibal that he can’t have anything in his life that isn’t him and Bedellia saying to Will “we’ve both been his bride” is so waltjesse coded waltjesse is just. insanely more Freudian and toxic.

the waltjesse "i am turning down you. i want nothing to do with you. ever since i met you, everything i have ever cared about is gone. ruined, turned to shit, ever since i hooked up with the great heisenberg" vs. the hannigram "i'm not gonna miss you. i'm not gonna find you. i'm not going to look for you. i don't want to know where you are or what you do. i don't to think about you anymore"

and the waltjesse "i have never been more alone. i have nothing! no one! all right, it's all gone, get it? no, no, no, why? why would you get it? why would even care as long as you get what you want?" versus the hannigram "i bond with abigail, you take her away. i bond with barely more than the idea of a child, you take it away. you saw to it that i alienated alana, alienated jack. you don't want me to have anything in my life that's not you...every moment of cogent thought under your psychiatric care is a personal victory."

and the crazy ass thing is that even in these dialogue comparisons you can see the differences in age between jesse and will...hannibal might have a slight age bump on will, but they're two fully middle-aged men...meanwhile the gap in age between the 25 and 50 of jesse and walt is an ocean of difference, and you can tell in the way jesse speaks. even in this one scene that i've borrowed dialogue from where he realizes he's being manipulated is desperate, the pleading of a child, not the coherent, smart, analysis of will. it makes me ill

[fannibalcascade]

have you seen the panel , didn’t it feel very weird , I mean the vibe was off

Yeah, we caught it yesterday. Surprisingly, it was pretty early, so only I and @melancholymournia were wide awake. We didn't see a new season announcement coming at all. We think that chapter is closed. The atmosphere between Hugh and Mads felt right, they are buddies and they met after a long time but we were really curious about the questions being asked and how they'd answer them.

We held onto our skepticism, given it was a reunion after a decade, knowing any hint about the relationship would stir up the fandom and potentially bring backlash our way for our ongoing doubts. But here's the kicker: not a peep about Hannigram, and the whole vibe felt like a blast from 2013- especially how they still can’t mention the relationship, it’s like they are still in the bro-code era and maybe they are .

Despite Mads' captain-of-the-ship reputation, even his answers were ambiguous and not very convincing about the future of Hannigram, And a little question for the shippers: ever find it odd your beloved pairing consistently skirts around the series' core theme, despite claiming it's integral? If so, why the silence? Not to rain on your parade, but given your Hannigram fantasies, it seems the cast's vision isn't quite in sync. Now, we're dead certain the relationship wasn't going anywhere ,a 'Murder Husbands' season was just wishful thinking.

[i-bit-the-dust-it-was-yummy]

YOU KNOW WHAT IM DONE WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT HOW LOVECATS IS SO HANNIGRAM CODED

Sorry no it’s not hannigram coded it IS hannigram

JUST LISTEN TO IT, IT REPRESENTS THEIR RELATIONSHIP IN EVERY SEASON WHY DOES NOBODY TALK ABOUT IT

[dixxiemaegraphics]

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Tagged by @jennilah

Tagging: literally any of my buds here! Any of you!

Three ships: Stuilly (Billy x Stu from Scream), Hoffstrahm of course (because they’re my favorite boys from Saw), Laszlo x Nadja (What We Do in the Shadows)

Honorable mentions: Louis x Lestat (any version), Hannigram, and Ricky x Julian (Trailer Park Boys)

First ship: Hmmm probably either Tulio x Miguel (Road to El Dorado), Tommy x Merton (Big Wolf on Campus… ALSO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MORE PEOPLE NEED TO WATCH THIS SHOW IT’S LIKE A LESS SERIOUS CANADIAN VERSION OF BUFFY), or Quicksilver x Avalanche (X-Men: Evolution… I literally don’t remember why though)

Last song: “Waiting for Mommie” by My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult (goddddd that’s a fun act) (I will list my recent on repeat songs under the cut if you’re curious though… I could go on about music forever)

Last movie: lol Dinocroc (I had to show it to my husband to explain who Dick Sydney is)

Currently reading: SO I haven’t started these yet, but these are stories I’m about to start: Rouge by Mona Awad (because I just read Bunny and I LOVE THIS STYLE), Bury Your Gays by Chuck Tingle, and I really need to jump back into Debaser by @sharpth1ng (and Wave of Mutilation to that extent)

Currently watching: I’m so bad at sitting down to watch shows consistently because I can’t stay still unless I’m drawing… That said, my go-to’s whenever I turn on the TV are It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Trailer Park Boys, Mighty Boosh, or What We Do in the Shadows

Currently eating: Coffee with Mean Girls creamer and a rosé Poppi mixed with Hydroxycut (messy milf-coded breakfast as I call it)

Currently craving: Black clove cigs and an iced caramel hi-rise from Caribou Coffee

Okay still with me?

Here’s my recent on repeat songs! Check ‘em out!

“Sherlock Holmes” BUT THE MINI MANSIONS COVER

Also from Mini Mansions: “Vertigo”, “Monk”, and “Death is a Girl”

“Off to the Races” Lana Del Rey

“Perverted” Elita

“Hip to Be Scared” Ice Nine Kills

“Ritual” Ghost

“Lucretia My Reflection” Sisters of Mercy

“Get Off” Kittie

“Taipan” Kublai Khan TX

“Your Love is My Drug” Kesha

“I Can Dream About You” Dan Harmon (lol mine and bestie’s song)

“Lust” Boy Harsher (read any Corey Cunningham fic to Boy Harsher and have a nice time)

[childofwonder]

I’m having a problem again. /srs /hj

I cannot understand Will’s character motivation for all of season 3.

I’m trying to comprehend it, I really am.

But like. Do you want to kill this man or do you want to run away with him?! The whole season I’m waiting and waiting for this man to kill Hannibal or run away with him and he DOES NEITHER.

Like he changes his mind every other second.

I HATE THIS SHOW. /not srs

FUCK YOU BRYAN FULLER /hj

I know the answer is both. He wants to kill him and run away with him, he would run away to prevent Hannibal’s death from someone else and then kill him himself. But then he’s also ready to watch the dragon kill Hannibal. WHICH DOESNT WORK BECAUSE THEN HE IMMEDIATELY GOES AND ATTACKS THE DRAGON TO SAVE HANNIBAL. AND LIKE WHILE THEY ARE ON THE RUN POST FALL ARE THEY STILL IN THIS LIMBO OF TRYING TO KILL EACH OTHER?! I DONT GET IT

I want to get it. I really want to get it. But it just doesn’t make sense. Not saying that Will can’t feel both ways about Hannibal but he really isn’t clear on it with himself or the audience. (THIS IS THE POINT RIGHT?!??! THATS HE DOESNT KNOW HOW HE FEELS???) PLEASE IM SO FUCKING CONFUSED. sometimes the fandom are really singular with Will like he only has one motivation. Usually people are like “he loves him, he doesn’t want to kill him.” BUT HE DOES WANT TO KILL HIM. FOR TWO SEASONS. LIKE YALL ARE MISSING IT OR IM DUMB? I CANT UNDERSTAND.

All this to say that I’m going to rewatch season two and three again.

But seriously. Will wants to kill him but can’t go through with it, right?? That’s the point. OR ELSE WHY ARE WE HERE? I refuse to misunderstand this show. I remember I was so clear about it when I first watched it and now it’s all murky in my mind. Eek

I don’t usually post these blog posts cuz I know they can be a little inflammatory. but whateva

I just want to understand the writing of season three better and this is how my thought process works.

Anyways, when I finish reading Red Dragon it’s over for you bitches (I’m going to be making so many blog posts comparing the show to the book. FRANCIS WILL BE A REALLY BIG FOCUS OF MINE. and Will, and Molly) (and Willy)

Sorry I just keep yapping at you, have a song suggestion for compensation (ITS SO HANNIGRAM CODED)

[reireichu]

Is Sophie Will's child? Why is Will jealous of his own child?!!!!!

no, soph isn’t will’s child. in the random ramble I gave to lambie, will would have probably tried to babytrap hannibal and chose sophie for it (does she agree? no. does she react badly? yes).

when it comes to will and his child, it’s probably my own view of the character that will wouldn’t be able to handle parenting very well due to his own childhood. he does exhibit a lot of personality traits which point to a lot of childhood trauma and potential personality disorders. i think that when it comes to a child, Will might be jealous that hannibal might love the child more than him, so it’s a very complicated relationship.

me saying that soph is hannigram coded is probably because i rather unconsciously wrote in a lot of gothic drama tropes into her as a character, some of which is quite… hannigram vibes.