#whitepine theory

[whitestarpine]

I’ve seen a few whitepine theories by now, and the ones that have stuck with me the most were two specifically:

1) the thing that killed Mysti was “the monster” that lives in the forest. The person who had this theory went on to explain that the one true moment where we feel fear in the first episode was when ivory was looking at the forest. Right after that scene, we have a shot of the stairs (where Mysti was found). Foreshadowing goes harddd

2) someone on this app (I forgot your username, sorry!) said that we weren’t looking for a killer, but more specifically for the plant hemlock. It is also explained that said plant can kill someone with painful skin marks, etc. The person stated that when Ivory is being introduced to the maids and butlers, there’s a shot of Mysti eating (she could be eating a hemlock plant, and that was what caused her death)

I honestly think the story could go in many directions, but it’s hard for me to believe we’re looking for a specific person to be the killer. What do we think???

[yourpersonaljaskier]

Hello hello! I watched Whitepine and now I'm insane! I also watched a theory video! I'm very insane and I need to ramble as to what I think is going on

Theory will be under read more, spoilers ahead

First things first:

Who is mrs. Hemlocke, and how long has she been dead?

So, some things to establish the estimated time period:

- steam locomotives and steam engines are around (meaning it's past the year 1712)

- The colour black may be associated with the mourning period (early roman period til the 20th century, now very well known because of Queen Victoria, who mourned her husband for 4 decades til the the early 1900's and wore black daily)

These bring us to a rather specific time frame between 1712 and before the 20th century

Black doesn't seem to be a very 'fashionable' colour, as the theory video I watched relied quite heavily on the idea that the Hemlocke family is in mourning. While the idea in of itself isn't a bad idea, I heavily disagree with this notion for 3 simple reasons:

1. The family isn't in ACTUAL mourning! They wear black clothes, yes, but there's no other indication they're in active mourning. They wear colours not permitted by the mourning rules created by Queen Victoria (assuming they're in England due to the name Whitepine and the general outlay of architecture), which was from 1861 til 1901 iirc, which is a HIGHLY likely time period they were in. Zam participates in hunting, the household isn't in mourning (the women aren't wearing any amount of mourning regalia, ie, veils, jewelry, full black attire, similar with the men), the HEAD BUTLER doesn't tell Ivory about the passing of the hear mistress (which MEANS the mourning period is long over and the topic is dead at this rate, Ivory doesn't need to be a genius to figure out why the mistress is never mentioned), Izzy permits Ivory to be the piano, so on and so forth

2. Serapter doesn't know why the piano room was empty. Her death was before his time, and he seems plenty adult to me.

3. There were no search parties (if she had disappeared), there were no funeral arrangements, no active mention of her or her recent passing, and black clothes are not an indication of a mourning period.

These, to me, are clear signs that the family, at least the children, have long moved on.

Now, how long has mrs. Hemlocke been dead?

Well.

Let's look at the Hemlocke children. So far, we only know that Pyro is the oldest, with the others having to clear indication of when they were born. But, to me, the Hemlocke children all seem to be of a similar age. There are no tutors or extra teachers for the women to learn etiquette, Zam goes hunting and invites Pyro with him, they seem to go out semi regularly as known bacherlors (as none of the children are married), and seem to have a close bond with how they interact with one another

None of the children seem teenage-d to me, but we'll see as the show progresses

In my mind, mrs. Hemlocke died when the youngest was a few months old. It makes the most sense with how the family and household act around her death and items. The piano was moved but is still taken care of. It's tuned with no obvious dust, out of sight and out of mind but with instructions to keep it in good shape

Izzy easily absolves the previous order to not let anyone touch the piano, meaning it's been long enough where she finds it doesn't matter if someone plays it, and as Clown mildly implies, it seems that the order was given by Zombie, as he advises Ivory to not make too much noise

Obviously, as mrs. Hemlocke was the mistress of the estate, all the older staff would have been relatively fond of her and followed whatever wish Zombie made about her items, but as Serapter doesn't even seem to know as to what some of the rooms are for (like the piano room), and that he 'forgot [the piano] was down there,' quite heavily implies her death was wayyyy before his time

To compress: Mrs. Hemlocke died perhaps decades ago, to a point where none of the household is in mourning and have seemingly moved on, with new servants being unaware of the affects her passing had on the family (ex. Serapter)

Who killed Mistycat, and why do people think it's the forest?

I personally think the forest has got absolutely nothing to do with Mistycat's death, and that there's a different perpetrator at hand with no supernatural element. I'll explain after this segment as to why the forest is such a focal point to Ivory, but for now:

The forest is an ominous 'character' and looming figure during the whole episode. Multiple shots include Ivory spacing out and simply staring at the woods in some sort of trauma reaction

The forest is ominous, dense and is eerie due to the atmosphere

Forests are easy ground to get lost in and die

Supernatural activity can easily be tied with a supernatural forest

Misty's death is sudden and seems out of nowhere after a bit of a long shot with the woods

From Misty's injuries, it seems like the attack was quite violent, but it's not above that she fell down the stairs after being attacked. The injuries on the back of her head could suggest a blunt force blow, while the rest of her injuries were amassed from her tumbling down the stairs, which would draw someone to check out what happened, and of course, then the freak out

Do I have an idea as to who it could be? No. Fuck no lol, I'm not a psychic, I just don't think it's supernatural for now. There's absolutely zero reason as to why a supernatural entity would be killing the household now and not then

Why is the forest such a big deal, and Ivory's behaviour

Now. Hear me out on this: Ivory is from a cult like environment, where a settlement was in a similar forest, quite like the surrounding area of Whitepine

Her behaviour, past being autistic, is very submissive, with a fear of authority, the fear of disobeying orders to such an extent that she asks a fellow coworker permission to go outside, and a general reclusive behaviour that I associate with a want to conform and not cause issues for the ones in power

Obviously, all of these can be attributed to Ivory's implied autism, but I think it makes more sense with Ivory's behaviour towards the woods and other people

She seems afraid of talking, saying anything outside of what is asked of her, and even then, she struggles greatly and panics about being in trouble to a near panic attack level. Her dissociation with the sight of forests seems trauma related, along with the buzzing noise she gets after people rush to see why someone screamed

She seems afraid but in an abstract sense. She stares for seemingly hours after being dismissed her first day, just staring at the woods that caused her to zone out first thing

It's not normal behaviour. Even from a neurodivergent standpoint in my opinion. Her anxiety seems to come from an outside place, and Minutetech not knowing anything about her, past where he found her and what she did on the train ride gives me the impression she ran away from her cult, and now associates forests with them, causing her to have bad reactions when on edge or stressed

And that was it! Thank you for the read, hope you enjoyed my unhinged thoughts!!

[theblorbo-catcher]

Whitepine theory !! Kinda maybe spoilers ??

Tw fir mentions of blood/gore, murder, and body dismemberment

ALRIGHT SO. After rewatching whitepine for the seventh time (forgive me if I get some things wrong I was crocheting while watching it so I may get some things wrong) I've got a LOT of thoughts about Mystys death murder.

In whitestarpines theory post they mentioned that Mysty was eating in the scene where Ivory was introduced to the other maids and butlers and it got me thinking-

Seraptor told Ivory that they can probably go put of the dorms around 6 am and earlier Ivory was told that the Hemlocks usually don't get up until around 11 am. We see Ivory get up and leave the room while it's still fairly dark- it still could very well be 6 am but I feel like it's a lot earlier thn that ??? We can see from the window that the sun is just starting to rise.

I don't remember if the garden was in the servants side of the house or not but Ivory tells Clown she stayed on it the whole day, so either she was lying or the murder occurred during lunch that day. Or later the next morning when Ivory first got up.

We see Mysty eating and whitestarpine mentioned that someone theorized that there could've been hemlock in their food and that could've killed them.

Another theory that I think is worth mentioning is that Pyro is a possible suspect for the murder. I don't know if anyone else has considered this but after Pyro threw up Mysty was the one to enter his room.

Maybe he didn't want anyone to know he was sick? I don't know why he'd kill because of it but its definitely something I'd like to take a closer look at at some point-

At dinner Zam mentioned that there would be a hunt tomorrow at Lucas's place. Pyro doesn't go. I don't know if it's because he's sick or not but I think that's likely the case. I don't know if it's relevant to the murder or not but Vi fixed Izzy's telescope ands asks if she wants to try it. I assume she meant trying it that night- Izzy says not tonight, so she also maybe could've killed Mysty that night?? Either that or she just wanted to sleep. Or just didn't want to use it that night I don't know- maybe she's catching whatever Pyro has? I think I may be going a bit off the rails with that one. In my defense I'm writing this at like 1 am.

ANOTJER THING- The hunt thing they mentioned could not be literal. They could've been hunting Mysty !! The body looks WAY too bloody for them to have just fallen down the stairs. I don't know if it was the angle or just my eyes being weird but it looks like Mysty was missing some limbs I think ??? It would've explain some of the emphasis on the woods- but I don't know if that really explains the part Ivory plays in it if she does have any part in it at all.

There's such a huge gap of time where Mysty could've been killed and so many suspects its crazy- I think I definitely need to wait for more episodes before I have anything concrete but so far I'm having so much fun with this-

[roverthegoober]

I JUSTBWATCH WHITEPINE 2 EEE

Spoilers and TW warning for mention/implied abuse, also a lot of rambling

I was lowkey busy while watching, anyway

Im already mad at the detectives BYE

Ross(i think) needing a shovel for cobwebs? Like i get not being able to reach, buttt...

Div in the woods humming?

The stairs are focused on, especially due to Misti dying

Pyro was outed by someone, and i dont think its Misti lol

Zam and Seraptor seem kind of chill w eachother, but I'm not completely sure

Ivory being scared to go in the shower and have someone follow her :( she was shaking too bro, i think someone abused her. And she also seemed really stressed during the entire ep, even in Wych Elm, you can hear shaky breathing, i think. Its also the music that plays while she cooks and gets ordered around

Oughh and seraptor mentioning his family and where he lives. I hope we meet them in a good way and not in a way where seraptor dies and we have to see them 😭 i heart seraptor pleade dont DIEE

Zombie has a lack of emotion and stuff

Misti is still warm?? Like WHAT???? WHYYT

Im just so hyped rn!!!

[eve-123456]

I'm realy curious about ivory's past becase from the two episodes so far it looks like she was in role of servitude before, or at least went throw something that made her very shy and obedient. Also she shows dislike of showering with others, maybe she is hiding a scar?

[0seraptor0]

Theory made by me and my friend:

Hello everyone I’m the Whitepine community. Me and my friend have spent the past hour making up theories. They may be quite long but we’d love for you to read them!!

i have discovered by going thoroughly through the video a few things. THIS MAY BE WRONG THOUGH

1. Whitepine possibly refers to the piano as pine was typically used in the 19th century to make pianos and typically back then ivory was used to make piano keys. Whitepine stands for the pine of the piano and the white part of whitepine represents ivory our main character.

Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4 / Part 5

[djevelbl]

NAAAAAH I don't care what ANYONE has to say — I REFUSE to believe that Whitepine! Clownpierce is the killer, that's SUCH a cop out answer like. really? Your first thought as a theory is that the guy who's famously called a VILLAIN is ALSO the villain in this story???

[writeousposting]

Their last name is "hemlocke" (spelling taken from subtitles), not whitepine, but I agree!

From what we saw when watching, there was very little talk about Mrs. Hemlocke aside from the fact that she used to play piano in that singular scene, and its never really brought up again?

it would make sense why that room she used to play in wasnt used any more, and why seraptor told ivory to "not move anything". They're trying to preserve the way it was before she died, maybe?

just a theory either way ^^ (correct me if im wrong about the piano room, going off of memory here)

Whitepine 1 spoilers, if you havsnt watched it yet go do that!!!!!!

Ok so there is this small detail that's been killing me, there is no ms whitepine. Like she clearly is a character but she isn't seen on screen.

So she is either indefinitely away or dead. Apparently the light blue room was where ms whitepine used to play piano, and now it's in the basement. That seems like quite a thing.

Idk i think this is an interesting detail to look at.

[the-arson-author-gamer]

THEORY TIME WITH TAAG AGAIN:

Clown ISN’T the murderer, despite what people think. Here’s why I say that alongside connection back to my first theory!

As said in my last theory post, I said Clown was trapped at the Whitepine Estate, in some kind of servitude. The details are unsure as of yet, but I think it has something to do with the war and has connections to Reddoons. It really comes from his dialogue on the way to Emberton, in which he says "what else can you do?" to Ivory, saying he works hard under the estate.

Nonetheless, taking from originally displayed with Reddoons and applying it to the conversation between Ivory and Clown might explain why Clown acted the way he did when Ivory asked him if any of the Whitepine residents were responsible for Mysti.

Before I deep dive, I want to mention that when acting in minecraft, there's only really a few things that can give away to what a character is actually feeling. In order:

Tone of voice: the biggest contributor to how we can interpret a situation where there is no facial expressions to work off of.

Body Language: surprisingly enough, body language can be really intuitive in minecraft, depending on jumping, crouching, or head turns people can convey a lot.

Context: Depending on the current situation, past scenes, and the two other aspects stated above, one can manage to interpret a situation without facial expressions.

Let’s begin with tone, if you listen back, he’s assertive but not angry. Nor is he particularly afraid for himself, if he was, there would be a lot more fumbling with words, wavering, and most of all he still sounds decently calm. Clown is forceful with his words in a way that really can only be applied to making a point clear.

He isn't telling Ivory that he didn't do it, he's actually saying, "don't talk about it".

Not a few seconds later, and the rest of Clown's dialogue continues to present that.

“Nobody at Whitepine would do such a thing”

"There will be no discussion of that, understood?"

"I want the thought to be gone from your mind" (he empathizes on the word thought too)

These three statements separately actually tell us a lot about what Clown could actually be saying here.

“Nobody at Whitepine would do such a thing” -> Don't confront anybody at the estate about this.

"There will be no discussion of that, understood?" -> Don't talk about it, not with anybody

"I want the thought to be gone from your mind" -> Don't worry about it, and again, don't bring it up

To me, Clown is telling Ivory that he doesn't want her talking about this at the Whitepine Estate. He shut her down to bring up a point to not mention it at Whitepine. Why? Lest she gets in trouble or accused herself.

Ivory really is the prime suspect of the murder, the detectives are suspicious of her behaviour, having little memory of before, and she arrived basically the day or so before the murder was committed.

Clown doesn't think it's her because she was with organizing mail when the body was discovered. Sure the murder could have happened beforehand, but let's face it, there was a pretty short window of time, considering that the servants would be moving around a lot.

Alongside that, based on the conversation from Ep 1 between Minute and Clown, Clown doesn't believe that she would, she follows orders to the 9s and didn't eat without being told to.

Which brings me to the point that Clown, is attempting to keep Ivory out of the trouble, MAYBE because a semi-similar situation has led to Clown falling under the continued servitude of Whitepine.

But TAAG, this is basically bullshit, you're pulling Clown's possible care for Ivory out of your ass-

HE DOES CARE!! You wanna know why? In both Ep 1 and 3, Clown has shown his care!

Remember his surprise that she didn’t eat? It’s brought up again, after this conversation, when they are driving back from Emberton.

Alongside that, it wouldn't seem suspicious to Ivory if he didn't even tell her that because what connection does that have to Clown being the murderer? None!

So there was no reason for Clown to say anything about her needing to eat dinner, but he does anyway.

"Remember to eat dinner," <- You softy Clown.

ALSO.

Look at Clown's body language! Head down, and he turned away. There is like a 4-second-long clip (which doesn't seem like much, especially for Whitepine, but the scene is still notable) where it's shown of the quiet afterwards between Clown and Ivory.

This is not the behaviour of a murderer who just deflected a person questioning who the murderer could be. This is somebody lost in thought, he's thinking.

And he isn't thinking about how Ivory is seeking out who the murderer is. It's as if he's thinking about the general safety of the estate, which is not safe right now. Reminder, they are in a casket shop, buying a casket.

Even when telling her to not talk or think about it, his head still remains on a tilt down, if he wanted to scare her into not talking about it, he would have looked her in the face. Again forceful, but not angry, more concerned than anything else. Which his concern shows itself later on when he tells her to eat dinner and was presented from Ep 1 at his surprise that Ivory didn't eat lunch.

And finally, why I don’t think Clown is the murderer is actually pretty simple: It’s too predictable.

So far, Whitepine has taken us on multiple twists and turns within the first few episodes, with the first episode ending in a murder, which was a surprise and a cliffhanger.

“The butler did it” is too predictable for something like Whitepine, and I don’t think it’s a double-cross situation in which we don’t think it’s the butler because it’s too predictable, and then the butler did it, because again it feels too easy.

So far, Ivory has made us think. All the arg searching and theming of Whitepine itself has made us search and think about what we are watching. And while Clown enjoys being the villain (look at him he’s everywhere) I think Ivory would want us to think more if we wanted to find out who killed Mysti.

EDIT: REVISED THE SECTION BELOW TO MAKE MORE SENSE WITH TIMELINES AND CURRENT KNOWLEDGE

Oh? You want to know who I think who (or what actually) is behind the murder?

It's something to do with the woods.

The long shots of the area throughout all three episodes, alongside the mentions of "The Hunt" by Zam in Ep 1, the woods scenes. There is so much reference to the woods being dangerous and wrong that the murder is more likely to be correlated to it.

Not caused, correlated. Obviously a tree isn't going to uproot itself and murder Mysti.

But what is in correlation to the woods is Ebony.

I feel, personally, that the woods have correlation to Ebony, in which either she is the woods, or created the woods, or is in the woods, having influence over Whitepine.

Before I edited this I said Ebony was the cause, which is piss poor wording because I meant Ebony wasn't the direct murderer, more like she has connection to the murderer.

Ebony already has connections to Whitepine. Ivory has had Whitepine in the works for a while now. Unsure if actually confirmed, but I've heard for around 2 years now.

Ebony was introduced 2 years ago on Ivory's second channel, and appears on and off afterwords.

Alongside the findings of two more ARG videos (is that even what the hell you call them? lmao), all with connections to both Ebony as a main character, and Whitepine as a set?

Also, a detail in all of Ivory's self-composed music (which I listen to all the time btw), is that they all have tree names as their titles.

As we know, both Ebony and Ivory are technically named after materials. And Ebony is this:

Hardwood. Wood is obviously found in trees, and a tree mentioned from this small blurb of a Wikipedia article is persimmon.

Tree and plant naming theming has been consistent with Whitepine so far, especially in the songs. I'm calling it, a song is going to be called "Persimmon" and when that day comes I'm going to go apeshit.

Also, with the general eeriness of the woods mentioned, it would be odd if it wasn't capitalized on later.

Thank you for reading my TaagTalk on my Whitepine theory, also known as the ClownPierce stop being the villain agenda!

[lowkeywaffling]

YOOOO YOU LIKE WHITEPINE WOAH..

Favourite whitepine characters + any suspects/theories???

i think ross has got to be setting her up he's just been in the right place right time every time. prob a little more complicated than that tho. borm was waiting to catch her with the shovel too, he's gotta he working with ross

also why tf is divy in the forest what's going on there, it's interesting that ivory isn't really scared of anything like the basement or the forest, wonder why that is.

serapter is my fav

[inkydiamonds]

Hey I've realized that there's a lot of really cool Whitepine/Ivorycello theorists here on Tumblr who might not be active in the lore channel in her discord! So hello! This is a call to pool resources/ideas, perhaps we can reach out to each other and chat!!

From the discord I bring this insane doc, which you absolutely do not have to read through, but it contains a LOT which could be very relevant: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pMcjA1FQqsyaQDJsdH0b9QmGPOC_EUVh4giFsZ1CJTQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

Included, we have:

- ARG answers, including links to unlisted videos!

- Transcripts of videos and other resources!

- Potential evidence that WP is connected to other Ivorycello videos!

- Mildly deranged timeline rants!

- Remarkably little about the actual murder mystery!

- Thoughts about Mysti, Pyroscythe, and Ivory!

- T R E E S

And more to come! If you're a WP/Ivorycello theorist who has just been vibing here on Tumblr, *please* tell me about your ideas, we need hot takes :D

I'm also probably going to make some posts where I just start talking about some theory (either rehashing stuff that's on the doc or proposing stuff that's not on the doc) so feel free to add your ideas there too

[sillyseasides]

🌊 anon here, i’m revealing my identity specifically to bring photo evidence. Bitotter couldn't have found Mysti’s body, they’re seen over Ivory’s shoulder in the kitchen at 27:55

plus the blood thing is a bigger problem for me: here’s a diagram of Mysti’s body relative to the blood around her.

That is not enough blood for how much she was stabbed. And i doubt someone would take the effort to move all those severed body parts. Plus there’s no blood splatter by her neck. Tbf whoever was helping (i think div was helping but thats a dif convo) might have tried severing her neck to cover up the bite. I just dont think they’d have enough time to do all the wounds. I dunno this theory’s still a work in progress.

I know I'm the "vampire theory guy" but I honestly am starting to doubt that a normal person could have pulled off the murder. its just unlikely at this point.

My reason for thinking so is simple, Mysti was in full uniform, and Pyro was fully dressed. Let me explain. According to Seraptor its' the maids' job to make sure the Hemlocks clothes are laid out and whatnot, (while ep 1 did show that Pyro is capable of doing it himself, Mysti was surprised he was up, so its not a common occurrence) and Seraptor also says that the Hemlocks usually wake up around 10:00 at the earliest. Right before Mysti is discovered, all of the others are in the kitchen, presumably preparing lunch given when the Hemlocks wake up. Therefore Mysti would have been found around 12:00pm.

That timeline does not line up for a normal person. They'd need to: Attend to whichever family member they're responsible for, Then murder Mysti, then wash or dispose of their clothes, then change, all without someone noticing they're gone.

Plus, according to the newspaper in the trailer, Mysti was stabbed so brutally certain parts of her body were severed. Where the hell is the blood? there should be a heck of a lot more if that was the case. Not to mention, who would go through the trouble of moving her body if it was in pieces.

However, the vampire theory accounts for this by limiting how much blood would spill, because the vampire would have drunk it all.

-🌊 anon

I’d like to note - It very much seems like someone almost tried to sever Mysti’s head if you look at the back of their neck. It’s covered in blood, as if they had been sawing through before realizing they were running out of time before they got caught.

Also, from what I can tell, it seems like we know who found Mysti’s body. Bit, guessing by the way she was being interrogated by the police. I wonder if that’s why Clown told him to ride in the car, knowing they’d be grilled pretty hard.

[piscoyt]

my whitepine theory:

her body just did that 🤷‍♀️

[rosie-darling]

whitepine notes on my rewatch

what were ivory's previous job(s)!!

clown seems pretty renowned for being "a stick in the mud" but not overly cruel? i don't know that he would have any reason to kill mysty? unless something new happened - her comment about "i doubt mr pierce introduced you to us" feels just... normal. even the note about vi being upset if they touch her stuff felt hyperbolic -> basically my point is no one has been established as explicitly hostile as far as i can tell. you know?

what was that big white empty room with the amethyst?

big manor house... room with lots of paintings... secret passageways?? 👀

ivory stares at the awards for a while - (this might just be because she's not looking at serapter but she could've just turned around

the first piece of music starting after we meet pyroscythe is so special to me its probably not important at ALL but i thought that was adorable

ivory staring into the forest while serapter and clown talk about her (and the audio muffling like she's in her own world)

what was that door ivory didn't go through after she met ivo? was that leading outside or no. minecraft body language my beloved

the second piece of music after ivory gets outside and sees flowers!!!

i can't decide if i should trust izzy or not... like on one hand everytime i've seen her she's been sweet but she's definitely hiding something

CREEPY FUCKING FOREST!!!!!

ivory didn't report that she went outside to serapter... she said she stayed in the servant's side of the house + found the piano

6am - ivory goes down to play the piano

there's a lot of red in this house!!!!!

i've seen a theory that clown murdered mysty before going to speak to ivory about missing lunch but that's ... that doesn't make sense to me. he walks in moments after her (meaning she would've heard a struggle if it had just happened - and i heard mysty's death was violent so not. a quick stab and run etc) and another servant walks through that door. clown doesn't seem to mind or worry (though i guess if he had murdered mysty he wouldn't want to make it seem like he didn't want anyone to find her?) TD;LR IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE!!!!

pyro :( god he's right there next to her in that last scene. do we know who found her body? depending on who it was maybe we could work out timelines ??

[eve-123456]

He is soooo weird

[0seraptor0]

A theory made by me and my friend: part 2

Hello everyone I’m the Whitepine community. Me and my friend have spent the past hour making up theories. They may be quite long but we’d love for you to read them!!

2. As i looked through specific areas of the whitepine mansion i noticed as ivory arrives it is raining this is a key factor on what im about to say. The hemlocke family name is possibly referring to the posionious and toxic plant “hemlock” which grows in dark damp places. and im pretty certain im some what on the right path with this idea. Hemlock Can kill someone in a matter of 15 minutes or sooner after being posioned, hemlock is a white flower coinedence? i think not. As ivory looks around the mansion i noticed in the garden there is TONNES of white flowers is this telling us that those flowers are the imfamous hemlock plant? the posionious hemlock plant. THE SAME PLANT THAT IS SAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE ON THE SERVANTS EATING QUATERS?!?!. In one of the scenes where ivory meets all the maids/butlers ectect they are eating only certain maids/butlers are eating which i believe to be some sort of foreshadowing of the future on who might die next? though near the white flower which i assume to be hemlock and coincidentally the one who is found dead at the stairs is mysticat ONE of the people eating at the table near the white flower. As hemlock the plant is poisionious i believe while eating mysticat was some how posioned. specifically at 22:50 that is when all of them gather mysticat begins eating at 23:06 which gives around a 6-7 minute gap between when she was poisoned as i mentioned before from the flower she is then found dead at the bottom of the stairs. I believe ivory wanted us to assume mysticat fell and died but in actual fact she died from hemlock poisoning. We also see mysticat full of blood which would make sense as she “fell down” the stairs but i believe this to be a sign of hemlock posioning me and my friend dicussed the possibility of the blood is actually blisters a symptom of hemlock poisoning. I am also sorry to let down all the serapter fans but i believe he is also poisoned. In one scene in falls randomly hemlock posioning causes the person to be weak and unable to have fast movements so when seraptor fell that was showing he was also posioned from the hemlock. I saw a comment about the newspaper in the trailer and how men have been dying from starvation and being overworked. What if one of these workers was starving and was searching for food. A common mistake with people is they mix up two similar plants hemlock and cows parsley, What if this worker comes across hemlock and mistakes it for the so callled cows parsley instead and eats it sharing it with others and bringing them to their death. There was also a supersition at this time (i cannot confirm this) if someone was to bring cows parsley into their families house hold it would bring automatic death to their household maybe that is linking together with the fact people are dying from “starvation and overworking” but in fact it is once again the hemlock plant causing it and that it is clearly a common issue currently in the area they all are in that hemlock poisoning is a key dominate thing happening for everyone in this town/place. I am still unaware what century/time whitepine is set in but maybe it is possible people are unaware of the fact that hemlock is posionious at this time in history.

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