#whitefem racism

[mithliya]

the racism on radblr sometimes is word for word what you’d expect from a neo-nazi

[everything-is-crab]

Posts like this are why I don't engage with radblr anymore. Or basically any community dominated by white people.

Look at the notes. It's filled with mostly "sex based oppression is real" as if most misogynists and feminists in India don't already know this. But since some Western feminists or from other countries don't, it's important to them to tokenize our struggles so they gain a point in their political debates. I have said this a hundred times before but it's obvious how they see us as nothing but tokens. They call TRAs racist for preying on the insecurities of woc due to beauty standards imposed on us and for ignoring our oppression as women, but they do the same thing with us. They see some issue unique to a specific community of poc? They try to fit it in their arguments against the libfems. Unlike issues that they face as well, like domestic abuse, prostitution and porn. On which they write very well researched and elaborate posts. But they're completely lazy when it comes to woc especially the ones living in the global south. And that leads to their racist and classist behavior.

As for trans people- they always try to get back at radfems by saying "terfs will look at these women and say they're men" or whatever when they see a woc talk about her own issues or even when she's simply breathing, as if it doesn't cross their own mind how they say the same thing when they go "transphobia is racist" as if woc are some third gender and as if trans poc do not experience any other meaningful oppression that's distinguishable from racism 🙄

Second of all- it's obvious many of them are racist but don't explicitly express it but some on this post did-

It's so obvious that in the second screenshot what that person means by "cultures with such barbaric practices" is "brown savages". This is blatant racism. But when I pointed out on my other post how white radfems are incapable of forming any meaningful solidarity with woc if they only focus on misogyny and not racism (which most of them are guilty of) I received my first racist backlash on here. Even many woc themselves did this. But I already talked about how woc on here are like the kind of woc who take racism seriously but not sexism in order to gain validation by moc, except it's vice verse in this case. You guys can't comprehend and accept that everytime white women try to talk about issues exclusive to any race that's not white, even if it's from a "feminist" pov, then they very likely have a racist mindset behind their words, whether it's intentional or subconscious.

Anyways, nothing about this is "cultural". (And tbh even if it's cultural why do you act like culture is influenced by race itself and not many other economic, political and social factors that white people have and still influence?).

The men who are doing this are not some unique kind of misogynistic relative to white men. Do white men not stigmatize periods? They're doing this (and I clarify I am not ok with this or defending it but I am simply fighting back against the assumption that the cause of this thing is simply cultural) because the women working on those sugarcane fields have to do extremely intensive labor for hours straight. It affects their menstrual health severely. And this is a poor country in the global south affected by economic imperialism, and therefore mostly production based with less mechanization of the agricultural industry, not like the dominant service sector in most Western countries. It's not easy for people this poor to switch to some other job with equal or better pay and better working conditions. And this particular district is especially poor. How is anything about this "cultural" and why do you think we deserve to die out because of it?

Sorry we're not as developed as Spain or some other Western country where the women here could get menstrual leaves or something and it wouldn't affect production (which is already quite low for a population this large involved in agriculture).

Instead of adopting this as a talking point against TRAs or justifying racism why don't you try to criticize both imperialism and capitalism or at least talk about the poverty and lack of resources causing these issues, if you really care for "all" women so much as you claim to. But no, you will pretend the issue is solely intentional misogyny and not involving multiple factors in it.

And btw I don't want any white woman to come in my inbox like they did last time and demand that I apologize for being rude to white women when criticizing their racism. That's never gonna happen. Especially not when most white women and even many woc don't bother with this issue. Get rid of your superiority complex this isn't the colonial era anymore.

As for Indian radfems (most of whom I have come across being bootlickers of white women)- The global south has classes too. And yk this. Just because you're a woc too doesn't mean you don't have any other bias against any other women in this country. Amazing how some of you pretend you give a fuck about the growing nationalist movement just because you're socially liberal. But how nationalists promote imperialism and capitalism in the country doesn't matter to you.

[burningtheroots]

Women‘s rights movement // General stuff continued 🔗 links —> Part 3

Protect your account

MADRE — a global feminist fund

Facts about women‘s rights

South Korean feminists — 6B4T

Girl Math — inspirational women

The process of male & female socialization

Things you can do to help women

Literary Resources

💫 Women‘s History 💫

Andrew Tate

Radical Action: Period Poverty

Social Justice movements from a feminist lens

Jack the Ripper victims petition

The Pad Project

Men as a terrorist group

Take care of yourselves

Barbie trumps Oppenheimer

Reasons NOT to get pregnant

The story of Franca Viola

Greed is Male Culture

Suffragette Flag

"Not like other girls" GNC perspective

Men‘s insults

Women‘s anger

OSA women

UNITE, don‘t divide

The b-slur

Socialization ≠ bioessentialism

Classic hypocrisy

Female separatism benefits all women

Pedophiles on the rise

Men don’t see us as human beings

Sex for pleasure 1

Sex for pleasure 2

Fuck conservatives

Motherhood is difficult

Misogyny by any other name (article)

"Oppression Olympics"

Damned if you do, damned if you don‘t

The reality of double standards

Don‘t bother with misogynists

Conservatives

Fatphobia is wrong

Male Collective Identity

Female reproductive anatomy

Misogyny vs. misandry

Whitefem hypocrisy

Women‘s Economic Space

Misandry ain‘t real

Usurpation of women‘s ability to create life

Men being pathetic (education)

"Progressive" hypocrisy

Women‘s accomplishments >>>

OSA separatism

Don‘t invest in men

Men are violent anyways

Megan Thee Stallion

"Man-hater" vs. woman-hater

Feminist wins/progress

Penetration & degradation

Male loneliness

"Misandry" isn‘t racism + update

Radical feminism vs. basic feminism

Small changes are meaningful

On shaving

Shaving anon

Socialization: Let‘s talk

Male approval

Don‘t fall for gaslighting

Fake accountability

"Choice" ≠ choice

Barbie isn’t "anti-men", but men‘s movies are often anti-women

Advice for dealing with men

Refuse to bow down

Advice for women with SH scars who date men

A win for female CEOs in the U.S.

More general information

Global majority women and third world countries MATTER

50:50 with men is a scam

The "bimbocore" trend

Why misogyny is so normalized

Sexualization of women in sports

Women‘s rights are for all women

Misandry isn’t real, but if it was, it‘d be a male thing

Side with women or be guilty

Men exploit women‘s empathy

Male violence is normalized, women fighting back is demonized

Which rights do women *actually* have?

Reasons to dump him

Historical feminist writings

Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians — War crimes committed by the State of Israel

Stop antisemitism — State of Israel ≠ Jewish people

Affection is NOT absence of bigotry — every man needs to be held accountable

Maternal equality is crucial for feminism

Massacres/genocide of Palestinians in Gaza

How to actively help women in Gaza with period products

Gender disparity in Indian organ transplants: 4 in 5 living donors women, 4 in 5 recipients men

How misogyny harms women‘s footballers

[papirouge]

This whole "misogyny is the biggest form of oppression because it's more widespreaded" narrative pulled by radfem is soooo backhanded because this statement only work on a macro level. Yeah ofc "the female experience" is experiencing oppression from men but....we actually live individual lives with very different experiences from each other. Sorry but I can't be the only one we a brain to realize this take is a convenient way for whitefem to downplay racism and acknowledge that in a micro analysis, racism may actually be a bigger threat than misogyny for some women of color.

I work mostly with white women. Misogyny isn't that much of a concern for me in my everyday life - otherwise their whiteness is what represents a potential threat to me.

My ex landlord was a woman - when I visited my appartements, suffering gender discrimination isn't what was in my head in what may potentially harm my application.

I really want my fellow Black women to not let themselves be bamboozled by white feminist backhanded tactics and make you lose focus on the reality of your own individual situation by them blanket statements about worldwide misogyny.inc. By elevating misogyny as the ultimate threat, they are stomping on your own experience with racism - and yes, sometimes sustained by white women.

That's why they are so uncomfortable addressing white women's objective benefit from white supremacy and why so many radfem are currently going mask off with their racial supremacism. They never cared about us.

[feministdragon]

Stop asking for social modelling. Look the fact is we need to deal with capitalist systems. So for women's ACTUAL liberation we need owed land that is legally defended vs property claims like domain claims. Then immediately a credit union... crowd funded whatever but OUR bank means WE insure and cover what we want. Health care, birth control... not men, we then fund loans, our businesses, we deal with each other first, then our recommends. And Property owners in that settlement can only sell to other women that live on site. No 3rd party buyers jacking rent or holding for men.

Not racism, no whitefem, no bigotry and transphobia, no derails of any right wing bullshit to the place, none Zero tolerance. Letting in terfs same as letting in guys and they'll bring them.

I totally agree we need to own women's land, and we need women's banking/credit unions. I agree we need women's insurance companies! Health insurance! Birth control! totally totally agree.

We need women's owned businesses. We need our own stuff! Agree so hard

at the same time, genuinely curious, why can't I also ask for social modelling? what's the problem with it?

[shoppinghauer]

Not the whitefems acting like victims because WOC dare speak out against racism ☠️ But your "racistberry" and "niiwhite angel" made me laugh fjdskhfj

[mithliya]

www(.)tumblr(.)com/takocreep/750117750365716480/how-do-we-detract-from-african-and-middle-eastern?source=share

“culturally assimilated white man” (once again the argument that white cultures don’t enable rape as well) “it’s not white men committing most of the rapes of finnish women” there is no statistics on the race of offenders.. just their nationality. and i’m pretty sure finnish men committing 2,627 of sex crimes as opposed to somali men at 39 and afghan men at 64 and iraqi men at 168 (the nationalities these ppl like to bring up) likely does indicate that it’s white men still dominating, as if that’d make any difference when the one constant is the sex offenders are overwhelmingly male. “since i know finns are extremely homogenous” who argued any group is homogenous on the basis of race, nationality, or ethnicity besides these ppl??? “risk of rape from a stranger” the vast majority of rape cases in finland were not stranger rapes.

anyways… i do think it’s interesting they get offended at the mere argument that rape is a male crime not a racial crime, or the mention that white men aren’t in fact safe men to be around. actually since they love to bring up rape stats in finland, maybe they should read how much more likely it is for woc to face rape as opposed to finns.

not to mention that several studies showed over and over again that poc are more likely to be profiled, stopped, searched, suspected, arrested, charged, etc even if they commit the same exact crimes as a white person. of course this will affect the statistics.

anyways male rapists should face the most severe punishments possible, i dont care what happens to any rapist, but to racially profile ppl & to perpetuate the idea that it’s immigration that is dangerous is & continues to be a far-right white suprematist nationalistic stance and it’s fucking baffling that this is even a debate in a supposedly leftist circle. that rhetoric doesn’t simply hurt rapists, that overwhelmingly hurts innocent immigrants who did nothing besides be the “wrong” race. it specifically targets refugee populations (ie the ones they’re constantly criticising by nationality) who are extremely vulnerable and fleeing extreme circumstances. it harms immigrant women who are also ultimately going to be affected by such rhetoric bc let us face it, many do not have the ability to leave their countries on their own & i haven’t heard of one country that decided to simply take in female refugees & immigrants, instead countries that officially have an anti-immigrant & anti-refugee stance have kept women and children from entering too.

anyways this person isn’t even being subtle with their racism

[everything-is-crab]

"Why are you so skeptical of white women using misogyny in your country as evidence of sex based oppression? 😡😣😑"

Because of this

[papirouge]

I think it's very interesting how white feminists/whitefem leverage the perspective of WOC on the misogyny of men in their respective community as some sort of anti racism shields whenever they dunk on misogynistic non White men ("see?? even their women hate them and see their misogyny !!"), but the moment we (non White women) voice our own perspective on racism based on our experience with White women, we are silenced or are accused of having internalized misogyny

I'm not saying they are wrong calling out men regardless of color (I myselg wouldn't have any problem snitching an abusive black men lmao) but I wish all the non black women agreeing with such takes realize that those women would most likely turn on them the moment they start getting a lil bit too critical about White women. We've all seen their reaction and gaslighting with the Karen meme

Those women truly see us as pawns. Nothing more.

[mithliya]

she's just racist huh. "umm if u stupid palestinian civilians dont want to be killed then try not being evil people that deserve to be killed :/". blatantly equating palestinians with hamas, and blatantly justifying the mass-killing of palestinians using hamas' actions. newsflash but civilians do not deserve to be mass-killed, regardless of their beliefs or their government or anything else.

also "don't break ceasefires in the first place" the ignorance is astounding. israel has been attacking gaza before october 7th even happened. israel's entire founding was built off of aggression towards palestinians. there was calls for investigating their war crimes in august 2022. what ceasefire was broken?? because it doesn’t seem like israel was even following it.

[papirouge]

@peroxidased you're absolutely right and I rejoin you about the lingering racism of most white radfem

Beside they awful stance regarding Palestine, I think I got my wake up call when they started campaign in favor if kiwifarm just because a transwoman made it go offline (it was obviously back a few weeks later) we're talking about the same kiwifarm dropping the n word here and there and calling Jews "glowies", but those women were so obsessed with sucking up against a transwoman, they straight up white knighted an overall racist website. Their excuse? "oh but that's how the internet has always been uwu" "those abrasive/problematic websites are part of the internet ecosystem uwu"

Mind you, they are the VERY same women losing their shit at anyone making fun of women. Which is weird bc last time checked, casual misogyny is also part of "uwu internet culture uwu" too. But no, NOW it's a problem bc it affects *them* too. Whitefem are ok with toxic internet culture targeting ANYONE but them.

That's also why they will always go out of their way to defend white women who are publicly attacked (Amber Heard, karens, Taylor Swift, Sophie Turner, etc.) but will hardly have the same energy to do the same to defend non White women.

[mithliya]

https://www.tumblr.com/viviennelamb/736142969460146176/lets-say-first-worlders-emancipate-third?source=share

wtf

so not only is she weirdly lesbophobic & deranged but she’s also weirdly racist too.. good to know

[everything-is-crab]

After that joannerowling drama, I have realized I was right about being reluctant to talk more about my country's women's issues (I have like dozens of posts saved in my draft and many more ideas I never even thought about typing out) because unfortunately Tumblr is white dominated and white people are bakchods.

And you can never be sure whether a whitefem's intentions or subconscious are racist or not until they show their true colors this way. So many women reblogged that blatant flimsy race science-y bullshit. How are woc supposed to feel comfortable talking about their issues around you when you're constantly acting like we're dramatic, aggressive and calling anything racism for no reason when you're reblogging shit saying Western civilization has always been more progressive and colonization was "inevitable". Do you think for a single second or have any shame before doing this shit and later blaming libfems to be racist? You can't trust other whitefems too because they're silent (and you can only assume this kind of silence as acceptance). I know only exactly 3 whitefems on here who are normal about us.

Here I am wanting to talk about Indian women's issues along with intersectionality of patriarchy with caste system but I always hesitate because of this bs.

There's no point in giving white women any more chances because kutte ki doom kabhi seedhi nahi hoti 😑

Form your own communities, fellow woc. These people don't give a fuck about our liberation. Just because they realize patriarchy exists unlike libfems doesn't mean they are any less racist than them.

If there's any other platform where I can interact only with feminists of color please let me know. Discord server invites are okay too.

[papirouge]

Honestly people’s hatred need to be directed to the rich “muslims” sitting in their mansions in western countries or in places like Saudi and Qatar and Iran that FUND Hamas. Muslims like them couldn’t care any less for the lives in palestine. They don’t care for it and couldn’t care if everyone in palestine is wiped out. I bet you anything that they’re laughing at the videos and celebrating. This is a false religion that promises reward for raping, enslaving and murdering. It directly goes against God’d word.

I refuse the have any "hate" for anyone because as a Christian, satan is the actual Enemy, but tbh, any single person calling for an escalation of this conflict (either defending the Hamas or "IsrAel hAs tHe rIghT tO dEfEnd tHemsElveD 🤪" folks) are as much reckless and ultimately damage the safety of Palestinians. At least rich Muslims stay quiet and aren't calling for the murder of anyone.

Westerners warmongering from their cozy homes that's not under the threat of being nuked overnight are despicable.

It's pretty obvious the Hamas expected a disproportionate response of Israel to amplify the martyrdom (human sacrifice) of Palestinians and leverage a support from the Muslim world.

Another thing that's despicable is how people are somehow trying to "rank" war crimes to act like either side was better/less worse.

Pro Palestine/hamas acting like because Palestianians suffering made acceptable to kill & abduct israelis

and

Pro israel acting like they had a moral ground because they didn't "decapitated babies" (this sensational rumor has yet to be proven true btw)

exhibit :

People will literally say :"I don't see a problem [cutting water & food supply to CIVILIANS]"...and still think they have moral superiority.... That's how dehumanization works : you find "good reasons" to strip people from their basic human rights. Also I always wanna to ask those people where they even draw the line to start dehumanizing people : when babies are killed? women raped? do they realize those are inherent to wars, and therefore them supporting a war makes them accomplice to those crimes??

But the thing is : there's no good answer. Killing or brutalizing ANYONE of ANY AGE/RACE/GENDER is already a moral failure.

Everytime I see people being like "oh look the Hamas raped and dragged a naked woman behind a car" I'm like: "would it be better if it was man? or if she wasn't naked?" Again : WHERE do they draw the line to start clutching their pearls at a specific murder? do these people think war is just a vibe? that because this stuff isn't shown on a camera, it doesn't happen? (yeah bc like in the screenshot, ppl genuinely think that Tsahal didn't do the same thing/war crimes somehow because it wasn't caught on tape...). Maybe they should think about it because supporting war and murder. There's no justified murder for God - a lot of so called "Christians" should understand that.

That's why I'm so SICK of radfem inserting themselves in the discourse to make it about themselves (again). There's a post floating around with a whitefem stating that Palestinians or Isralis women talking about their struggle is not White feminism, and while I totally agree with her statement, I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the usual gaslighting lf "it's WHITE MEN who accuse white women of white feminism!!!" when they don't lol. Many WOC addressed white women gaslighting and aggression and tried to explain that it wasn't misogyny but out of a legit frustration against White women racism, but White women NEVER took them into account and kept focusing on whatever crap WHITE MEN did (look how MAD White women were at the Karen meme, and how they obsessively tried to paint it as a (white) male psy-op when MANY woc entertained this meme). Which is very interesting considering how divested radfem pretend belng from male approval... It's extremely telling how White women will ultimately value White men opinions/perspective more than those WOC. I like how they really be telling on themselves while thinking they're sooo much smarter than anyone else lol

I'll NEVER forget when whitefem call Middle eastern/Arabs radfem calling out the mistreatment of Palestianians women at the border "salafists". It got so bad that one of them slid into my DM-me, a Christian lol- to thank me for defending them because those White women couldn't help but belittle them for being Muslims... But yeah, according to that whitefem it's the fault lf white men WOC have a distrust for their activism 🙃

[mithliya]

“acktually palestinian men are horrible because they should’ve known that israel would commit a genocide against and withhold resources from palestinians in the future!”

[everything-is-crab]

Radblr hated me for calling white people "mayo monkeys" when one of them derailed my post about racism in white feminism but find nothing wrong with a yt woman acting like the man who cut in line in front of her did so because he was probably Middle-Eastern (because white men or men of any other race never do this sort of thing right? Right?)

I have been too generous to white women until now when I used to softblock every man that followed me (regardless of his political views) but let white women follow me and excuse their borderline racism. Now I softblock every racist whitefem too.