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It's probably an unpopular opinion, but my takes on the reason why Superman doesn't like Conner Kent(Superboy) is not on the aspect of cloning but more of Lex Luthor.
Of course there are also a factor about how Luthor actually get Superman DNA without his knowledge, enough to event experiments with cloning, but then again it led to Luthor problem.
Imagine the surprise and shock when you get the news that you have surprise family (an unknown brother/son), made by your nemesis hell bent on you being death, with SAID nemesis DNA being mixed into the creation.
While his reaction are a bit letdown, it's also understandable that Superman actually wary.
I mean, DC Universe kinda weird in that aspects. What if Kon actually can be mind control at Luthor behest? What if everything Kon knows actually made it to Luthor?
And yes, Superman should do better than what he does but I just let the reader judge that. You know, thousands hamlet and all
#dc universe#dc#superman#conner kent#superboy#made this because I've so much 'oh Clark dislike Kon at first so he must hate clones' on dpxdc fandom#which make me kinda bored#no judge tho 'cause I've no legs to stand on with my obsession about time travel fic#it's just how about we make it different#like why not focusing on the part that actually make Kon existence concerning#instead of the part of his being the clones#i am actually surprise that Luthor actually doesn't do voodoo shit with how much DNA he have to make the clones
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Why is Hera so hostile to Leto in a manner that she isn't with the other lovers of Zeus? I can't think of any other woman who was targeted so much by Hera. One could say she didn't want Leto to give birth because her children would be a competition to Hera's children, but why bother her even after she had already given birth? Is it because Leto herself is also a threat to Hera?
Sort of I guess?
I don't think Leto would ever be a threat to Hera's role as the queen of the gods but Hera might see her as a competitor for Zeus' affection, even though I think Zeus would not marry someone else and replace Hera.
The twins are definitely a big reason why Hera begrudged Leto - it is outright stated in the Callimachus Hymn to Delos that the reason Hera especially targeted Leto was because she was told that Apollo would be dearer to Zeus than Ares is. Zeus is very proud of Artemis as well. As he himself puts it, he doesn't mind facing Hera's wrath for children like her.
But the continued hatred even after the birth of the twins (like sending Tityus to rape Leto) could have been for different reasons. This wasn't like one of those affairs Zeus would have with mortal women where he'd leave them behind once the child is conceived. Neither could Hera, despite her many attempts, get rid of Leto like she did with the other lovers. Not only did Leto give Zeus children that he loves dearly, she also stayed on Olympus despite Hera's hatred towards her (which isn't directed to any of Zeus' other divine mistresses, btw). It might have also been because Leto herself is dear to Zeus, if the way she's treated on Olympus is any proof. In the Homeric hymn to Apollo, Leto stands next to Zeus - in the Olympian assembly - to welcome their son. Hera is completely absent from the scene, as if Leto had taken her place even if temporarily. Now you could say this is because Apollo himself is such a powerful and glorious son in a way that no other son of Zeus is, so of course Leto would get such an honor (the hymn itself presents it this way).
But here's another instance - in the Iliad, when Hera goes to seduce Zeus, he is obviously very smitten but before getting into the action, he lists some of his lovers (I believe these were his favorite lovers, as a lot of others are not mentioned):
"for never has such desire for goddess or mortal woman so gripped and overwhelmed my heart, not even when I was seized by love for Ixion’s wife, who gave birth to Peirithous the gods’ rival in wisdom; or for Acrisius’ daughter, slim-ankled Danaë, who bore Perseus, greatest of warriors; or for the far-famed daughter of Phoenix, who gave me Minos and godlike Rhadamanthus; or for Semele mother of Dionysus, who brings men joy; or for Alcmene at Thebes, whose son was lion-hearted Heracles; or for Demeter of the lovely tresses; or for glorious Leto; or even for you yourself, as this love and sweet desire for you grips me now.’ (Book 14, trans. A. T. Murray)
Notice how when talking about most of them, he also mentions the children they bore to him but when Demeter and Leto are mentioned, he doesn't bring up their children at all despite them being some of the most accomplished kids of his. What's more, he takes Leto's name just before Hera's. I mean, this is an interpretation but it looks like not only did Zeus love Leto the most out of all his mistresses - giving her a place second to that of his wife, but also his love for her wasn't necessarily only because she gave him two amazing children.
Nonnus does something similar in the Dionysiaca (but this time Zeus is enamored with Persephone instead of Hera) but more notably, when Typhoeus attacks Olympus and Zeus is discouraged, Nike takes the form of Leto to encourage him and it's pretty telling of what Leto meant to Zeus.
One interesting similarity between Hera and Leto is that they both had a giant try to rape them. Porphyrion tried to violate Hera (Zeus inspired him to do this) and Tityus tried to violate Leto (upon Hera's order). Though both of them were killed, only Tityus got an eternal punishment in Tartarus of having his liver/heart eaten out by vultures so Zeus seems to have taken a greater offense at Tityus trying to assault Leto.
Again, I don't think Zeus would ever take anyone other than Hera as his permanent wife - she is irreplaceable to him. There's an entire myth about Hera leaving him and Zeus winning her back. Their relationship is obviously complex and involves all kinds of emotions including love and hate. But Leto is continually dear to him as well and that's something Hera can't do much about.
#Zeus#Hera#Leto#if you think about it Leto is like the opposite of Hera#she is a great mother#she bore children that Zeus is actually proud of#she never rebels and even begs for forgiveness when her son rebels against Zeus#she's generally mild natured and never lashes out#also if you look into this obscure myth of how Hera established an altar in the name of Leto#because Leto's name was used to cover up the secret relationship between Zeus and Hera#(which kinda sorta implies that Zeus was *maybe* courting or even married to Leto at that time)#it all gets even more complicated for both Hera and Leto#ALSO in the texts that record the syncretism bw Greek and Egyptian gods#Some authors make Hera the mother of Apollo#and Leto was Apollo's nurse#Those texts also mention that this Apollo defeated Typhoeus and became the king of Egypt#So he was like the ideal son of Zeus and Hera#And it's so interesting to me#how this Apollo - the perfect son of Hera - transitioned into a sort of rival figure to Hera in the greek myths#and Typhoeus who was defeated by Hera's son became the son of Hera in the Greek myths#on a different note#to this day I can't understand why Zeus would inspire Porphyrion to do such a thing#was it to get back at Hera for the Tityus incindent?#I shall headcanon it that way (even though I prefer to ignore this version)#well of course not that Zeus would have ever let Porphyrion actually have his way with Hera regardless of the reason#but yeah that was such move and it's wild that the mythographer didn't tell us that reason behind Zeus' action#I've also seen people hc that it was because Zeus wanted Heracles to save Hera so that she's accept him finally#which is also an interesting explanation#especially if you consider that Heracles was also given Hera's breast milk (without her consent)#anyway that's enough rambling ig
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It’s crazy how expendable all the crew members were to the Pony Express.
A 30% chance that your shipment would be lost. Cargo and crew are inseparable if we are to believe the shitty layout of the Tulpar. People use it because it’s cheap. The labor is cheap. The lives are cheap.
They are all relatively easy to forget about. It’s implied Anya and Curly don’t have many friends or much family to be concerned about them back home. She mentions nothing and no one to fall back on and he feels like wasted his life with the company. Jimmy probably only has Curly, otherwise people wouldn’t care or ask. Of course Daisuke and Swansea have family’s but Swansea thinks poorly of his and Daisuke’s poorly of him. All people in the companies eyes that wouldn’t stir up too much trouble if they became part of the 30%.
It makes it so much sadder because that ladder they were climbing was so small and shitty. There were rungs, ranks, but even the highest was barely off the ground. Jimmy wanted to reach the top of something that was brutally cut off and knocked everyone else off just to not see it.
#like yes curly was slightly better off but he’s not getting a severance package he’s a top show pony to the company#but they will just shoot him if he becomes a horse with a broken leg#Anya was likely picked cause she had enough knowledge but not enough to concretely call malpractice and Swansea was already a cog in the mix#he was an alcoholic getting back on the straight n narrow he needed it Daisuke is forced on the trip and eager to prove himself#Jimmy also need the job and got it from nepotism and won’t care as long as he’s paid#complains but yknow and Curly likely doesn’t do much but work he’s like a perfect little face man and he kinda hates it#like it’s a misconception that he was bored at the top or he needed a new ladder because he was done with this one he literally is miserable#and feels like he unfulfilled and doing nothing with his life as he’s ONLY successful in his work like he has nothing else#which makes it so mad cause Jimmy saw Curly as this guy with a perpetual golden goose but he’s just like them#like shiny gold appearances aside he’s like the second saddest like next to Anya because shes like depressed#because yknow she’s a victim but she had hopeful and happy determined prospects like Curly is just sad with his life and Swansea is chilling#like he’s made his peace even if he’s not like clicking his heals and Jimmy is less sad more angry#he’s a sad mans tho like he’s like Dan vs to me#mouthwashing#the pony express#mouthwashing game#nurse anya#anya mouthwashing#captain curly#curly mouthwashing#daisuke mouthwashing#swansea mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing
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sir????? Wdym me aren't even at the climax of Kid Leo yet???? How far ahead did you plan???? Hats off to you man, I could not.
Oh I've planned it to the end, plus a bit more, and then I ended up rewriting the ending just recently :D
I don't like fully committing to an au or a fic or anything without a full plot/idea cause then I won't finish it :3 I actually did go into Kid Leo without that originally but then it got big enough I wanted to be able to finish it one day! So an actual plot happened!
Also yeah we're still about halfway through, even with all the cuts I've made, but not quite to the climax yet!
#asks#kid leo asks#this is why its taking me a bit longer to work on L330-N or Lil Hater or the Rural ay#they do techncally have complete plits#but im having trouble with some of the endings and middle bits#esp with L330-N#i have two endings i really like :/#as for Kid Leo i recently rewrote a big big chunk of it which filled in some plot holes#i was kinda worried the next couple arcs were too boring and realized that i actually dont have to do those arcs anymore?#if that makes sense#im still working on it!#mostly just typing it up from my notes :3#also the reason tmnt:hme hasnt really happened is cause it has no linear plot#it was just a mishmash of ideas from my childhood :D#sooooo yeah
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i adopted this guy from a cardboard box on the side of the road
^^^^ he says this then instantly eats shit
#sunglasses guy -> sunny#nate was said by madi hjakfhkfs#ppl call him sunny night 2 annoy him bc he SUCKS#my failboy my cringefail boy#sunglasses guy#parkour civilization#sunny nate#evbo#im not drawing iron boots rn noooooooooooooooo#get leather instead#puppee art#NOBODY SAID THAT THOSE WERE PANTS#THEY COULD B A SKIRT WHICH IS Y HE SUCKS ASS @ PARKOUR#IM JUST SAYING HEY LISTEN 2 ME LKISTEN#y did i get attached 2 like the 1 guy who does not matter#i gave him long hair bc fuck u minecraft doesnt decide hair length I DO#parkciv#i rlly do just yap in my tags huh#im so srry 4 this cause tbh i think im the only person in the world who sees him like this#bc @ 1st i was liek damn im going 2 make him emo hehehehe#then i got bored bc he just wears a stupid hoodie so i drew more shit & then it progressed#then i gave him long hair bc cOUGH reasons#now im here & he looks nothing like his minecraft skin & thats fine i find it funny LMAO#my neck hurts#kinda#its more my shoudler cause im drawing @ a weird ablge
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i think a big thing people get wrong w leafpool’s character is thinking her passivity comes from like fear or insecurity or being shy or something when really it comes from like. defeat. she’s been burned so many times so now she just accepts it there’s no point in fighting back
#learned helplessness#in tnp she’s very much like a rulebreaker and kind of a little shit lol#she likes going out on her own and making friends with cats from other clans and getting involved in things cuz she’s bored#she’s rebellious and craves having deep connections with others which is why being a medicine cat starts to weight on her and makes her#impulsively decide to run away with crow#esp because she’s also watching her best friend sorreltail grow up and move on. and she’s watching her sister grow up and move on#AND SHE FEELS STUCK SHES LIKE OH. BUT THIS IS IT FOR ME ISNT IT?#so she just reacts she needs to get away!! and then everything comes crashing down and she spends the rest of her life getting punished for#that choice#which slowly crushes her fire and teaches her that her desire for something ‘more’ was never going to work out#and she’s too tired to keep fighting so she accepts that#but she’s miserable about it and this misery makes her even more exhausted#so then she just kinda ends up numb#there’s no point!#SHES SO INTERESTING TO ME AAAAAUUUUGHHHHHHH it’s been so long since i’ve rambled about leafpool….. my girl……
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I'm not gonna lie I've been pondering for the last 30 minutes or so on what a good animated Robin movie would look like and Im kinda coming up blank I'm even getting stumped on which Robin the movie would focus on and outside of that what story should be the main focus
#Dc#Robin#Like I feel like the obvious answer would be dick#And the movie focuses on how he became Robin#Which like very good story#Easy to fit into the movie time span#Your basic origin story that new fans won't get confused with a bunch of back story#But it also just sounds like the safe option#And kinda boring if I'm being honest#Especially bc to me if you really want to tell dick or really any of the Robins stories#You need way more time to do it#Idk tho my brain isn't really working today#Soooo putting the question out there#Dc is making an animated Robin movie#They've asked you what Robin should be the focus and what story your telling#With the obvious stipulations#It's gotta fit into a 90 minute runtime#Robin has to fulfill some sorta character arc#It has to be newbie friendly while appeasing old fans#It's gotta be a self contained story while leaving room for a sequel#Annnd go
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mad scientist hair
#normal woman taking normal selfies in her home#i don't go out like this btw#the face hiding isn't even about privacy bc I'm not that bothered tbh#I just currently dislike my face. I put on some weight and it gets round immediately its ridiculous#my mum makes fun of it bc she knows it's a sure way to make me mad. she's evil#anyway I don't actually wear glasses#I mean I do but it's blue light glasses because I stare at a screen for at least 8 hrs a day#it's occurred to me that people who only see me in videocalls likely think I wear glasses#like in my day to day life#I don't. I have near perfect vision#which is kinda sexy isn't it?#please say yes it's the only thing I've got#*#to delete#most likely#in fact I'm not sure why I'm posting this. I'm bored
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heyo! i have been. Incredibly busy with art fight last month and i figured id post some of the attacks I was most proud of here.
here is 3 for @blaiddraws!
some for @fourphoenixfeathers!
some for @ingo-ingoing-ingone!
me and @drag0n0fbutt3r traded a lot of attacks this year! here's two of mine!
and some ones i had a lot of fun with- in order, Pitdoom_ for the first two, @narikine, awoomode and @the-pocky-stix!
#ray's art#ray rambles#i had a lot of fun this year!#i did a total of 100 attacks last month#so im. absolutely exhausted lol#with being kinda burnt out and sick and also Other goings on irl#im probably not going to be working on much for a little#dw im sure ill be bored out of my mind soon enough hfujoehfgb#oh yes- i also got so many attacks and revenges this year#it made me so happy to see! i think me and dragon got to like. a chain of 23#and pitdoom and i got to around 7#i think ive improved a lot!#which makes sense seeing as sometimes id do upwards of 8 drawings in one day#i think my record was 12.#for the record: not all of my drawings this year were this quality#this is just the 15 out of 100 i liked the most#there's some others i kinda want to share... maybe later#OH SHOOT#tw blood#i nearly forgot T-T
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Not to sound like an Orion Acaba apologist, because he did do some legitimately bad things, but like, why are there so many videos about his behavior on critical role?
Out of everything we know he did, plus what was alleged, being a bad DnD player while going through cancer and drug addiction is really not that big a deal. And remember, the actual cast of critical role, the people actually hurt by his behavior, his friends, they've let this go. He wasn't even kicked out, he left.
I don't understand this obsession with dissecting his shitty but mostly harmless actions during a really low period of his life.
These videos aren't even about the actual bad shit he did. He raised money for charity and then kept it instead of donating. A former partner has alleged he was abusive. This pales in comparison to being a problem player.
And even if people were discussing those actual bad things, what good would it do?
It's been a decade. The man is barely a public figure anymore. His behaviour cost him his spot in a multi million dollar enterprise.
Let this thing rest.
#critical role#orion acaba#i feel like i'm inviting the devil to my doorstep by main tagging this#but whatever#these videos really bothered me#imagine if you had the misfortune of being a public figure when you hit rock bottom#and the entire internet bore witness to your bad choices#and 10 years later people make clickbait videos about that#i kinda feel like he's paid for his actions you know#karma and all#also I said he's an alleged abuser bc I don't feel confortable stating as fact that he is one when there's so little information about this#from what i recall there was only a public call out#not a police report or civil complaint#which is not to say a victim is only valid if they do that#but i'm also not gonna assert as fact something that i've only heard third from people explaining the orion drama
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come on grandpa its fine. let your inner dadguy out
Maybe I should........
#asks#The dadguy jokes are great because I don't even want to have kids and I don't really like being around them#(they're loud and emotional and my Grumpy Threshold™️ is incompatible with that. it's not their problem though they can't help it)#But kids generally love me whenever I'm in a situation where I have to hang out with them. Like if a friend's got a kid or whatever#I don't know how you're supposed to be around kids so I just swear less and treat them like tiny stupid adults#Which seems to work!!#They don't like being talked down to but they don't understand everything because like they're brand new human beings you know?#I don't know!! I'm just like 'Tell me about Roblox/Minecraft/Fortnite/FNAF' and let them talk about it full bore#Or if they're kinda shy I'm just like 'Hey buddy let's draw some pictures'#Kids love drawing. I have never met a kid that did not go apeshit over making little images. Universal human experience#Accidentally got my one friend's kid into grindcore+death metal once though. Not ideal lmfao A little too heavy for a kid imo#Friend was like 'Hey my kid loves spooky music got any recs?' and I was like#'Uhhh napalmdeath-fullalbum.mp3' as a joke and his kid went NUTS for it LMFAOOO#I made a playlist of abyssally heavy metal just for her. She's like 6 years old rofl
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Uryu and Chad are gay married by the end of the manga. In this essay i will
#bleach#it's half-joking but not entirely so#see both are kinda each other's foils on several ways (uryu is also ichigo's foil in some ways but that's for another post)#both have a promise to themselves relating to their ancestors and both eventually break it#to me there's no greater symbolism to queerness than breaking family expectations (even if they were only self-imposed like in uryu's case)#then they go on to live lives they weren't supposed to live back in their youths (-AHEM-)#also they're the two characters who never got married to girls by the end of the manga despite there being enough girls in the cast for it#and you can see his face while watching chad's fight can't you? that's not the face a straight guy makes while watching a friend fight.#that's clearly a lovestruck look. uryu is watching his lover utterly kicking some guy's butt with loving eyes.#kubo could NEVER make them canon endgame because of shonen publishers' rampant homophobia#we do have another implied gay couple in the manga which are ikkaku and yumichika (don't tell me they WEREN'T a couple you know they were)#but again we could only see them bickering and caring about each other in a way no two bros usually do and never see any confirmation#(no like it WAS pretty darn obvious)#and if kubo couldn't make those two side characters openly be a couple do you think he would be able to do so to two MAIN characters?#but yeah tite kubo left all the hints in there because he knew some people would get it#(and let's be real here kubo KNOWS his audience or else he wouldn't fill the manga with well-dressed pretty boys)#i should be paying attention to class but i'm getting bored by it oops
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pata hai last kuch din i was very busy with my project kyunki final dena tha and binding karni thi etc to wo karwayi then i went to the bookfair bekaar tha then parso submit karne jaa rahi to subah accident hogaya (bhai ki bike skid hogayi and we fell down) and now i have a big ass blue bruise on my upper thigh and my parents don't even know lmao and kal ek science conference thi to i had to sit in an auditorium for 6 hours listening to accomplished people speak. that's what you missed now your turn
omg i knew everything in this except for the accident cause i stalk your blog vigorously everyday are you okay!!!!!!!!!! did you get tetanus shots!!!!!!!!!! also on your upper thigh oh no that's where future jiju is supposed to write MINE na as per our beloved song guilty as sin?
#did u have fun at the conference it must've been cool huh women in stem and all that#bookfair being bad is so sucky i was so excited for you to go i thought you'd send pictures too of books we like#also u already know everything i posted everything and every thought#i ate chinese but it didn't feel that good because my sister isn't here and we didn't eat it together watching#koffee or splitsvilla and i realised that it's not just the chinese food it's the whole hanging out that i love sm :((#kal well i told you pata hai the brownie place we met it's kinda new and cool types so uske bathroom mein#there was a button and it said press at your own risk and when we did it became a dj like the lights went out and#there when flashing spinning disco lights and party songs were playing mere mein wo aaya hum toh naye andaz hai apna purana#it was sooo cool im adding it to the list of places you'll visit when u come here!!!!!!!#also the food was soooo shockingly reasonably priced everything was under 200 rs!!!!! which is big for a dessert place here#and like great quantity great taste too my stupid people from office used to say it's awesome but i didn't believe them and never tried it#because they're all losers lol but i grudgingly admit that they were right#also ummmm hmm okay pata hai i realised ki oh okay im happy with who i am#like bachpan mein i used to feel very sad and loser like because dad was too strict to let me go out raat ko and everyone in school would#go to this club we went to kal and i always felt i was missing out and i wanted to be all cool and fun too#but it was kinda so boring and normal and i was like wow okay i didn't miss out i was spending days and nights reading books being in#fandoms and i was actually very happy!!!!! so like yay idk small thing bt yk i realised that oh it was okay and everything will be okay too#i kinda want to talk to that guy now like i weirdly feel like im longing for what could've been? which is ridiculous because#we were 11 and i barely talked to him back then because shy and friends would tease and i didn't realise it was a crush#i don't want to DATE him because like tbh i already know we're very different people but like wouldn't it be fun to idk make out once#then i got the urge to download dating app but i resisted the urge and won i don't think im made for casual things#me and my bestie were laughing about this yesterday too she was like i just don't understand how people can have sex one day and then#not give a fuck about each other the next day like idk if we have sex im having your kids and i was like ikrrrr like bhai sex is toh very#big im going to be attached if we hug i literally did!!!!! so we decided no more casual/situationships for us#phew okay more rambling on whatsapp love u bye this became too long#saumyuuuuuu
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no1s mad i drew more konbart right?
last drawing is nirvana au // also i gave up on the 1st drawing mayb? i might return 2 it
#i realized im starting 2 feel insecure bc ppl my age r drawing muchMUCH better than me so i tried 2 do things i dont usual do kinda idk#trying 2 prove im not *that* bad @ art lol#which means i tried 2 draw kissing y tf did i try this I DONT I#USE TONE INDICATORS U BITCH!#nirvana au#nirvana!kon#kart#konbart#my fujcing wifi freaked out on me & i drew all of these#so thats fun!!#also i worked on my sketchbook bc NOTHING WAS WORKING sts yestefay was so boring :(#my sketchbook is exploding its more junk then sketch#my junk book#puppee art#i love nirvana!kon oh how k love them so theyre so pretty ((imo))#i drew like 3 sidelrofiles im dying#ALSO IGNORE HOW LAZY I AM DRAWING SUPEEHERO SUITS LOL#IDRC…IDK…I DIDNT WANNA DRAW THE FLARES OR THE PATCHES PLSSSSS#ive drawn sm kon in the last like week?#bc of etsy its honestly great i have like a lil collection of those ty cards i make#uhm#i need 2 stop rambling gn#y am i saying gn???
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wait op 👀 can i ask who your favorite boy is? 👀👀 (sorry im too shy to reply to the post and im curious now because of your tags)
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#that’s the four emoji for anyone who can’t see it btw#I am the biggest advocation for four swords#legit so fucking funny to play with friends#the fact you can throw each other off of cliffs and rob eachother is peak good times to me#love a game that makes me hate my friends <3#getting to vote on who was most goblin at the end of each level is also very funny to me#I like to imagine four still does this#mental tally chart like what the teachers had in elementary school#he goes to sleep every night and the gang is just casting votes on someone cause they had a argument or smth#I am aware this isn’t necessarily canon to the lu four lore cause four is his own separate entity#but I like to interpret that as four and his internal twitch chat cause it’s funnier#I am a big sucker for guy made up of other guys tho#or even just the siblings trope#anyway Hyrule is my second fave link#my fave loz games are four swords - botw (which is better than totk I will fight you on this) - skyward sword and majoras mask <3#(ok totk is objectively a better game in terms of overall mechanics)#(but the sage abilities are boring at best useless at worst and the story outside of the thing with Zelda is just kinda bad lmao)#(botw was so good cause you got to fuck around and find out (but like with underlying oough amnesia trope))#(I will also never forgive totk for taking stasis away from me (recall is such a downgrade))#(ultrahand is peak tho 👌)#anyway I got distracted with this ask very quickly ghgh#I like dropping hints that I’m neurodivergent/j#but dw about sending a ask over a reply it’s all good chief
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casey also talks about sepang 2015 what do you think of that
oh in that podcast? uh... lemme listen again...
yeah idk it's not really anything new I'd say? he's said basically all the same stuff in more interesting and extensive ways elsewhere. I think casey inevitably has a very 'well feuding is bad and helps nobody' point of view, has expressed that before in the past, does it here again, and he's also drawn a parallel between himself and marc on several occasions. which... well, of course there's similarities in terms of public discourse or whatever, but the parallel really falls apart whenever casey argues the feuds cost valentino. like, I do think it's sometimes important to just. keep in mind. it's interesting that casey draws this comparison in his mind but that doesn't necessarily means he's right about this. I'm not sure how you'd argue that starting a feud with casey cost valentino anything competitively? you can argue it didn't help him I guess, and then we can have a debate about the ins and outs of the 2008 season. we can also have an argument that in a hypothetical world where casey isn't ill in 2009, valentino doesn't break his leg and casey isn't on a piece of junk in 2010, and valentino isn't on a piece of junk in 2011-12, then actually maybe valentino sparking open animosity with casey COULD have cost him. but we don't know that! didn't happen! I wish we could have found out, but we never got the chance! as it stands, the tally on this is pretty straightforward: casey won the title when things were reasonably civil between them in 2007, and valentino took control of the following season at the exact moment he worsened the relationship between the pair of them in 2008. obviously, it's all more complicated than that and casey would of course argue laguna didn't negatively affect his subsequent performances... but it certainly didn't help them. like, at the very worst valentino escalating tensions in 2008 is a complete net neutral. after 2009, them being bitchy to each other every other tuesday was completely competitively irrelevant beyond maybe affecting how they approached occasionally fighting for a podium position. hey, maybe casey used that feud to fire himself up through sheer spite throughout the later stages of his career, but that doesn't actually support his anti-feud stance - it's basically the exact same thing as what valentino does. they're both quite similar in that regard! always so hungry to prove a point, to show how someone else is wrong. kinda half the point with this feuding business is to get yourself going, get yourself motivated, yeah. he straight up openly admits to using yamaha's repeat rejection of him as a way of giving himself motivation, and at the end of the day that's really not all that different?
anyway, what else does casey say... oh yeah, that him and the other aliens were already kinda prepared for this and had learned vale's tricks. that valentino had only been able to get into the minds of the previous generation. welllllll *wiggles hand* sure, I mean, he did clearly have to change his approach... he couldn't just use the exact same playbook to get to them, either on-track or off-track. but that's why he did change up the playbook... again, whether you want to believe valentino won his final two titles 'in the head' rather than just through pure pace kinda depends on how you assess the evidence, but it is at the very least a debate. and, y'know, it's always worth remembering that valentino's most important mind games with casey didn't happen in a press conference... it was on the track. and the on-track stuff really is just embedded in how valentino approaches winning. speaking of aliens, this is what dani and jorge have said:
like, valentino's entire approach to his riding, even to the way he's setting his bike up, is deliberately about directly fucking with you... he's not actually always trying to be faster than you as much as he's trying to give himself the tools to make your life miserable, to pressure you into mistakes, etc etc... and again, especially with casey (if anything because he was so mentally sturdy), the off-track stuff was really just window dressing. (I know they bicker a lot after 2009 but it's just so fundamentally irrelevant to actual on-track competition.) so you can be aware of those tricks, but it also doesn't necessarily help you when someone's being nasty to you on-track in a way you just fully do not enjoy. which is what it was like for casey! for casey, a lot of this comes back to the truly unpleasant context of how he was perceived by the public, how he was treated as mentally weak or 'broken' or whatever partly because he had the misfortune of coming up against a bloke who had the reputation for breaking rivals. I think it's quite natural to end up with a bit of a hardliner 'actually I've never been mentally affected by a result in my life' stance - and of course casey is a lot tougher than a lot of people give him credit for. that being said. sometimes your rivals affect you, shit happens, it's part of the game. it's fundamentally a nice idea to think that valentino's tactics weren't just morally wrong but also ineffective, which is kind of the appeal of this narrative, right? you want to believe you're above that, you want to believe you were adequately prepared and wise to valentino's tactic. it's unsurprising and understandable that casey does tend to tell the story that way, but again it's *wiggles hand* also hard to describe it as completely factual
uh. what else. oh I'm thrilled casey does canonically know valentino and marc were friends, he has said he wasn't following motogp too much during that time period so you couldn't be sure of that. does this mean anything? does it tell you anything? well, no, but it's just a pleasing thought to me. I like that. oh also 'provoking particularly aggressive riders isn't a good idea' is kinda a funny take from casey? like, he of all people would hate the idea of being cowed by someone's reputation like that... casey's right that provoking fast riders can potentially be dangerous, but y'know I do think that's probably not news to anyone almost nine years later. um. that's all I've got I think
#i will say idm getting asks like this AT ALL but i do hope that's not like. the only bit of the podcast people are paying attention to#my thing with sepang 2015 takes is that like... when's the last time anyone has said anything genuinely interesting about that event#which yes big words from the feud blogger... but in fairness a lot of the sepang 2015 stuff is from old notes. that's my excuse idc#but that's kinda the thing... i feel like i haven't really had a new original thought about the whole drama for three plus years#u do kinda run out. basically the takes say more about the person saying them than about the actual event at this point#which. yeah. casey's comments on sepang '15 are primarily interesting in what they tell you about how he feels towards valentino#mind u he's actually quite nice about valentino in this one? casey call him let's finally organise that dinner#heretic tag#//#brr brr#batsplat responds#oh casey does go on another spiel against riders who win at all costs. ships that passed in the night of feuds i always say#also he gets the age he enters the premier class at wrong. i held myself back in the last post from pointing this out for tonal reasons#but if people want my podcast hot takes. i do simply have to mention it. just to set the record straight here#'they battle for podium places after 2009' genuinely. twice. like the alien era giveth but a lot of the time it really does just taketh#somewhat ironically casey wins the duel when he's on the shitty ducati and vale wins the duel when he's on the even shittier ducati#whatever that tells you idk#casey was always promising the laguna rematch would've gone differently and I love that conceptually but also we just don't know#he was like next time I WON'T play nice and it's like?? omg what does that look like. casey what were you cooking#for ethical reasons it's probably fine but for character arc reasons it's objectively ass that casey ended up being able to do all his -#- racing in a way he was entirely comfortable with for his second title in 2011. like it's just a complete waste of a year#you have this whole thing building for four years and then 2010 comes along and it's like. well that's enough narrative intrigue now! <3#also casey/jorge are fundamentally too interesting as individuals to have had such an obscenely boring on-track rivalry and yet here we are#it KILLS me because if you rearranged it and made valentino's dogshit ducati years like. 2009 or something#and do a straight title fight between jorge and casey THEN I genuinely think it would've been way more interesting#the problem with valentino is that he is fundamentally the WORST imaginable character you could invent to be casey's foil#literally everything about valentino could have been designed to be a casey-specific nightmare#but unfortunately that also makes him objectively the most interesting rival casey could have gotten#like morally it's on the edge. but narratively? literally could not have gotten a better villain in casey's story#constantly dancing on this faustian line of having to imitate valentino to beat him while trying not to lose yourself... juicy
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