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thinking about the fact that jack doesn't actually have any friends pre-samwell. or at least none that he keeps in contact with. so not only did jack ghost/cut out kent he also cut out EVERYONE on his previous teams, schools, etc. which is just...incredibly sad. and would be interesting to see explored in a fic of jack trying to make amends to those people because, guess what, jack is an addict. he didn't magically stop being an addict when bitty fell in love with him. he may be sober now but there are people like kent who jack owes apologies to
#check please#omgcp#one thing that has always bugged me about the comic#is that bitty has NO friends from high school#or that he didn't keep in touch with any of the people from his rec league#that he was supposedly captain of for two years#like did bitty just ditch everyone??#and as for jack#yeah i can see him cutting off everyone#which isn't actually healthy#for him or for everyone else#i just think it would be interesting to see jack make amends to the people he undoubtedly hurt in the Q#and after#because if jack is year 1 was a better version of him#then i bet he was a fucking nightmare in the q#omgcp critical
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on dick grayson & roy harper & marriage
I mostly stand by what I said here on the dickroy marriage poll (in short: lmao, they’d barely even admit they’re in a relationship) BUT after more thought I believe there actually is a world where they’d get married ‘for love’?
now, imo roy would never be the one to propose. marriage just isn’t that meaningful to him; it’s not something he really cares about. (and even if it was, proposing would feel like an ultimatum he doesn’t want to set. when everyone always leaves you, you learn to be careful not to ask for too much.)
and while I DO believe marriage means something symbolically important to dick, it’s a pretty fraught topic for him, given past experiences! so I think dick would resist putting labels on his relationship with roy, because acknowledging that there’s a romantic element to the way they love each other opens their relationship up to failing the way dick's past romantic relationships have failed.
but if they’d been in a stable relationship for a while, and dick had worked through some of his issues? well. so much of their relationship has been defined by leaving and being left, by other things getting in the way. so if they finally worked it out, I could see dick proposing as a promise to roy that he’s committed to roy and the life they’re building together. that he’s sticking around. that their relationship (that roy) is worth prioritizing!
and marriage might not mean much to roy, but he knows that dick takes it seriously. he knows that if dick is offering ‘till death do us part’ now—after working through his shit enough to be honest with himself—then dick means it. and that would be VERY significant to roy. it wouldn’t change anything about their relationship on the surface! but it would soothe the part of him that’s always bracing for abandonment, and let him believe that this is something he might get to keep.
they still wouldn’t have a wedding tho. they’d get courthouse married on a random afternoon with just them and a witness, and then probably not actually bother to tell anyone* unless asked directly, besides casually referencing it when quipping at each other.
*except donna. she knows because dick talked it through with her before proposing.
#this post isn't about bruce but he's certainly haunting it. like he haunts everything in dick grayson's life!!#and yeah i’ll admit the odds of dick actually working through his issues enough to get to this point is perhaps slim.#but I am choosing to believe its possible because I love roy harper and I want him to get a happy ending#he deserves the world!!!!!! unfortunately he doesn’t want the world he wants dick grayson to be happy and psychologically healthy#which is a much more difficult ask 😔#also after writing this I’m less inclined to think they’d get married for practical/utility reasons if it wasn’t strictly necessary#i think dick at least would be reluctant to make those vows if he didn’t know they both meant it#dc#mine: dc#dick grayson#roy harper#dickroy#roydick#i spent so fucking long editing this to try to cut it down and yet here we are. not every post is meant 2 be punchy and concise#it's much less rambly than it was originally tho!
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i feel like people say "abuse is always intentional and a choice" because it helps them believe that they haven't and will never abuse someone so long as they believe abuse is wrong.
Do you think every abuser woke up and thought "today I will abuse someone on purpose"? Probably some of them, but not all. Some abusers genuinely think that abuse is just how relationships work. Sometimes kids abuse other kids before they grow up and realize what they did was fucked.
If you decide that abuse means "person intentionally abusing another", what about people who were abused by people who weren't intentionally abusing them? Is that not real abuse?
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be angry at your abuser. I think you should be angry at whoever you want to be angry at. But I think looking back at your actions and checking "was what I did okay? how did my actions impact the people I love?" is very important, especially for people with NPD, where having issues understanding how your actions impact others is a symptom.
Having NPD makes forming and maintaining healthy relationships way harder. I would know. It's also way harder to control emotional outbursts while you're having one (and emotional permanence issues mean once you stop having one, it's hard to imagine what it felt like).
Introspection about why you did the things you did, if/how you hurt someone you care about, trying to make it up to them, and minimizing the chances that it will happen again, are very important. In "npd abuse" spaces, this introspection is usually shut down by "well, if you think you might be a narcissist, you're not one". But I think this introspection can be very helpful, so long as the introspection doesn't begin and end with guilt/shame.
#actually npd#npd#me when i write massive post rambling about things#i just feel like in the NPD tumblr community we're so focused on 'narc abuse doesnt exist'#which makes sense#that is the wider conception of our disorder#but i feel like we overcorrect#''people with npd dont have issues with being in healthy relationships and are always the victims'' isn't a good perception of us either#i have not had coffee yet today#i want to go to sleep#me when i
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I think at a certain point in one's healing journey they reach a point where they feel like they have become boring and uninteresting because they are no longer Activated all of the time and dealing with external or internal crisis.
The hard part is to internalize that this is just a normal part of the healing cycle and not something which requires dramatic action.
This is a crap feeling. But it means getting better.
#dawn posting#watch me post my trauma in public#cptsd#bpd#does mean I'm less connected with other people now#but we used to have a near terror level of desperation to not be alone#and being comfortable with silence has allowed it to fill our social sphere#we actually ARE disconnected from other people#but that's not a bad thing#we weren't healthy in our approach to socializing before#now is the time to find comfort and balance#which isn't easy#but it's worth the effort
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Just cannot forget that the show had a whole romantic subplot about Kevin being interested in Gwen but not up to making a move and just, never bothered with why. The issue at play was never actually addressed. Instead we just get a steady stream of Kevin not making a move despite his interest, while Gwen pushes him to make a move, and then Gwen finagles a move out of him and the show just, carries on like there was never something keeping him from making a proper move in the first place.
The closest we get is in the third season of AF, where we get a nice look at his mental health issues including some nasty self-worth issues, but even then the focus is less on 'wow Kevin is having A Time and this shows us some things about his character' and more as 'and here's how his response to his situation is affecting Gwen'.
Even in the fandom I've seen it treated more like a case of Kevin being whiny and selfish over nothing, like it didn't lead to him teaming up with Darkstar- something the heroes only ever do otherwise when in desperate need of help dealing with an actual and immediate threat to life.
Just, if you're going to base your drama around something, at least actually fucking resolve or acknowledge the cause of the issue, rather than just brushing it under the rug once you're bored with it.
#ben 10#kevin levin#yes this is getting tagged bite me#like if you go with mcduffie's claim that kevin and darkstar's initial interests in gwen were the same that gives us a reason#but gods know they didn't even lean a way on screen#it's just 'kevin's not making a move because Unspoken Reasons -> gwen won't leave him be -> okay they're dating now don't worry about it'#they show some things that could be reasons later- mostly in brief and rare moments- but even then it doesn't change the main crux#namely that you're supposed to do something with those issues *before* you fix the problem they're causing#it's basic plotting#instead the show acts like the problem is that kevin isn't making a move- not whatever is *keeping* kevin from making a move#which is just poor writing#that makes it feel like they didn't *have* a reason and just wanted the will-they-won't-they drama without any real effort#but then i've said before that they shouldn't have gotten together until the end of af#with season 2 having a subplot of gwen learning to be more respectful and that mutual interest does not mean she's owed his affections#and season 3 actually working with kevin's various issues and giving him some chance to actually *heal* and *grow*#finally ending with them getting together into a healthy and equal relationship#should not have been too much for achi aged 17-34 to ask
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Sonic OCs rhghrhghgbhrghhbfhb
(these first drafts above were pretty much traced from the official Sonic Adventure art by Yuji Uekawa. This was to practice the Sonic artstyle) Holly (red deer character) and Majesty (purple dragon) are an odd couple, consisting of a jovial shapeshifter and a greedy dragon who breathes noxious gas. The two combine their skills to raid villages and towns, adding to Majesty's ever-growing pile of gold. When Majesty hears of the elusive 'Chaos Emeralds', the wealth-hungry dragon stops at nothing to add the precious jewels to his dragon hoard. [More information about each character under the cut]:
Holly is an unknown creature often resembling a deer, but can shapeshift into any species she likes. She can even mimic their abilities, but only physical traits; she cannot copy others' supernatural abilities. (i.e. she can copy Sonic's quills as a defense mechanism, but cannot mimic his speed). She was outcasted numerous times in the past, as she tried to mimic other species in order to fit in. They all disowned her after discovering her true nature as a shapeshifter. When she met Majesty, the only person who did not outright reject her, she immediately became attached. Now she works as his loyal minion, but really, she's the one who does all the hard work.
Majesty is a dragon, a rare species able to breathe toxic gas. One whiff could prove lethal, while his venomous saliva is potent enough to burn through metal. Abandoned as a hatchling, Majesty made his name as a ferocious dragon not to be messed with. He terrorizes any village he finds, raiding their wealth and food to take back to his cave, accumulating his 'dragon hoard'. His goal is to prove himself as the most powerful being on Mobius. When he learns of precious jewels able to grant one infinite power, why, what kind of dragon would he be if he didn't pilfer them for himself?
#they're t4t btw#while Holly isn't a deer her antlers freckles and color palette are the only things she cannot change while shapeshifting#she can change her eye shapes tho but I forgot to draw that in her dragon form oops#me when a villain x minion couple without a drastically different power dynamic and is actually healthy#also yes Holly is heavily based on Nimona#while having the personality of Pinkie Pie#can you tell I love Holly guys#can you tell which oc is my favorite#sonic oc#sonic#sonic the hedgehog#sonic fanart#oc art#my art#fanart
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#hello little stars#i've missed you so#wee update on me: i'm actually doing quite well at the moment#things were a little iffy there for a minute but i'm in a very healthy mental space right now#i feel more like myself than i have in a long time#which is a very welcome thing#unfortunately during the process of obtaining said healthy mental state my shameless hyperfixation abruptly broke into pieces#it isn't that i don't still have love for the show - i do - i just don't feel consumed by it anymore#it doesn't occupy the same space in my brain that it once did#instead that space has been opened up to new interests and ideas and hobbies and yes even the occasional new blorbo#and i will not lie to y'all - it feels good#as to the future of this account i think it's going to become less of a fandom blog and more of a whatever-i-feel-like-posting blog#a scrapbook of my interests where i put stickers of shows and movies i like on the page and scribble my most incoherent thoughts#a personal blog if you will#i'm very grateful for the last three years of my life and all the things + people this show brought to me#but it just isn't IT for me anymore - y'know?#anyway#if you've read this far - i love you#i've missed you#come say hi#i promise i don't bite#also a URL change will probably be coming in the near future so if you're like um who the HELL is that?! it's probably me#blessed be my babies#ily very much
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I just have to remind myself sometimes that no matter what anyone else says, the way a piece of media makes me feel and the positive impact it has had on my queer identity is valid, and that tearing myself apart thinking I have to defend it or questioning my own place within queer communities is not at all important when compared to the almost tangible sense of 'rightness' that piece of media helped me to feel about myself.
#just something i've been pondering the last few days#kind of like no matter how much people debate or i suppose theoretically deconstruct media featuring queer stories#the most important thing is how it makes a queer person feel#and I do think it is of course a good thing to ensure queer stories are executed with respect and authenticity#but there's this grey area in fandom spaces in which people may have found rep from a 'unreliable' source i suppose#or something which is queerbaiting- sherlock springs to mind for example yet if people have been able to explore and nurture their own#queerness through that media does that therefore mean their experience is invalid? i don't think so#and my worry is the more we focus on theory the less we focus on emotion and therefore the actual queer experience itself#and sure theory can inform the queer experience and ensure the media is a 'healthy' site of queer identity formation and identity aid#but at the same time scorning or being rude to those who have found certain media an aid is not the right approach to be taking#especially as queer experiences are so wide ranging that one person's idea of 'good' representation is someone's else's of 'bad'#and that unless a piece of media is clearly offensive in its portrayal of queer experience there has to be some benefit of doubt#I think we're still in a period of progression in media espc tv where queer creators are coming to the fore of their own stories#and we've got to 'live and let live' a little about where people are finding sights of queer validation and joy#and perhaps this a naive and simplistic way of thinking but i think queer people can either recognise when something isn't the best rep#but was helpful for them anyway and therefore in a way confer 'ownership' of the media to themselves in how they engage#or there is variety in queer experiences represented in media so that perhaps not everyone finds a 'site' of rep but that does not#therefore invalidate it or make it 'bad' representation#this is just my opinion and it'd be hypocritical for me to not now mention this is only formed from my own queer experience lol#so i'm not trying to tell anyone how to feel or anything just something i'm pondering
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Hater and Peepers both commit food crimes on a regular basis. And they're appalled at what the other eats.
Wander and Sylvia are normal.
#wander over yonder#woy wander#woy sylvia#sylvia zbornak#woy peepers#commander peepers#woy hater#lord hater#actual original content#Peepers isn't as far down on his end as Hater is because caffinated atrocities alone pushed him back#Sylvia will eat basically anything and enjoys her comfort food (but usually tries to eat well)#Hater survives on a gamer diet#which- to be fair- works out well for him because he burns food into pure energy#but that's not why he does it#Wander generally eats pretty healthy but would never say no to a nice treat
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Posting times
So I've been trying to post every 2 days. But I won't be doing that anymore. I will be posting art whenever I want too now. So if that means one bit of artwork every month then so be it. I will probs still post random rambles now and then, but in terms of both artwork and asks, I will be posting whenever I want too.
I had made a post that talked in detail for the reason behind this choice. But deleted it before I posted it. Deciding it's just better to leave the detailed ass post to get cast to the side for something more simple. (very simple explanation in the tags thou, since I do feel like I owe at least a little bit of an explanation)
I will also be limiting my interactions with the Utau fandom, I will still be around, but the Utau fandom moves way too quick for me lol.
I'm going to be trying to focus on making more drawings that are fully rendered, rather than the lineart + flat colour (and very basic shade) that I tend to do on this blog. And I also want to post other fandom content for my other fandom blog (that was made before this one. And it's a JJBA blog)
Since I won't be around as frequently I don't mind moots tagging me in any posts they want me to see. Since I am not checking as frequently I may miss a post/artwork.
Reblogs are turned off for this post, as I don't really want it being reblogged anywhere else. I don't mind anyone leaving a comment or something talking about their experiences, or any tips on what they do to help themselves (see tags for a very simple explanation ((small tw for mental health if you look in the tags)))
May also delete this post at some point, idk when that will be thou if at all.
#mono rambles#if you want a little bit of an explanation#I got so worked up about having something. Anything to post every 2 days#and as someone who is super slow at art it was stressing me out. Paired on with the fact the fandom moves quick including other artists#and I felt like I couldn't keep up. I basically dug myself into an imaginary hole about posting and having stuff to post#so giving myself as much time to post as possible. And limiting myself on looking at the fandom should help me#this is a very short very basic tldr of my original post that i deleted before I posted#like the original post had like 7 long ass paragraphs#basically getting burn out from everything. And I started to feel less happy making artwork#This blog is like the most interactions I've ever gotten on my artwork. So I started to focus more on the numbers and getting something...#posted every 2 days and the days I wasn't 'posting' I was reblogging that main artwork post#it just isn't healthy for me. So hopefully I can actually start to enjoy stuff a little bit more#it took me looking at my other small fandom blog to realize how I wasn't enjoying posting on this blog any more#e.g. on that fandom blog it's a lot of rendered stuff. Where as here its a lot of doodles or basic ass drawings so I had something to post#Just on that fandom blog I was posting stuff whenever I wanted too. Where as I treat this blog like its my job. Which isn't good for me#tw vent#vent#vent post
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"That villainous/morally ambiguous character only changed their ways so that they could get with their love interest, they aren't actually a good person and therefore their relationship is toxic" has become such an umbrella statement that is used to describe literally any ship in which one character started out evil and toxic, only to gradually change as a result of their love of their romantic counterpart, and it's kinda tired tbh. Because there is such a major difference between "You make me a better person" and "You make me want to be a better person" that is getting ignored, and while one of these is definitely unhealthy, I don't see anything wrong with the other.
"You make me a better person" is what I would consider to be the toxic version of these relationships, because the morally ambiguous character is placing all of the responsibility for any misdeeds they commit on their significant other. "You weren't around to be my moral compass, therefore I killed people, so it's your fault." "If you leave me, I'm just going to go back to doing bad things." It's very manipulative and plays on the guilty conscience of the morally good character in order to prevent them from leaving. This usually ends up with said good character believing that they are needed by the villain and results in them staying. There are instances in which this is presented as a good thing, which it's not, and I fully understand criticizing these sorts of dynamics.
On the flip side, "You make me want to be a better person" is actually one of my favorite relationship dynamics, because it involves actual accountability and growth for the morally ambiguous character. There's something really beautiful about someone who has been so horrible for a good chunk of their lives, only to meet one person and have their entire worldview changed. They see their goodness and not only feel inspired to change, but actually go about doing so because they want to feel worthy of their affections. I'm not sure how or when that got conflated with "they're only changing so they can get in (insert character)'s pants," but it's really a shame, because there are some really amazing ships that align with this trope that get torn to shreds because people can't differentiate between the positive and negative variations. I want to see characters grow and change, and if falling in love is their ultimate reason for doing so, what exactly is so wrong with that?
#tropes#astraea rambles#the best examples i can think of for this are two ships from once upon a time#captain hook and emma swan are the healthy version#rumplestiltskin and belle are the unhealthy version#and people still try to fight me on this which is whack#no one is saying you can't enjoy either ship#but do not looke me in the eye and say that hook wanting to be a better man so that he can feel worthy of emma's love is a bad thing#rumple on the other hand...#he refused to change and belle ultimately decided she was fine with that#which was pretty disappointing to watch#at the end of the day ship what you want#but don't come at me telling me i'm wrong for shipping my ships#especially when there isn't actually anything wrong with them
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I think Three and Eight. My guys. They actually glued onto each other in the immediate week-ish following Octo Expansion in a very desperate 16 year old way that also blew up in their faces within the next week, and they then spent the next few months avoiding each other. And during that time (/during their reintroduction to each other) they beat their inner agents and after that everything kind of normalized and they got back together in a much healthier way.
#prince talks#well 'beat their inner agent' is maybe not quite the right phrasing for three.#something more akin to letting her own ass get beat and then taking Eight's hand.#'I am not your savior (and I don't need to be) and you are not my enemy' or something as the lesson#which I'm sure wouldn't make for a very fun gameplay experience which is why we never see it (/jokey)#Eight however we all know how her Inner Agent Three plays. 'you are no better than me. and isn't that beautiful?' is her takeaway#however they also need to have horrible teenager relationship event along the way. You know how it is.#the months long break in between is good and healthy for them they get to be people.#and then they both individually decide yeah actually I do have feelings about this girl. And I can be normal about it now#goodwin (8)#Three (3)#<-there they can have tags now. they are people. proper ocs.
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i just think tbosmaucu nate fighting DEMONS trying not to have a crush on drako just to finally cave at the cost of his dignity and briefly forgetting this is an heir to the harasaeon dynasty so he has to sign an nda. it’s very specific and funny to me. i can picture it vividly
ALADJFJS OK YEAH
"ok. ok FINE I'm into him. what the fuck"
*zayda immediately swanning in with a massive nda heavy enough she could knock him out with it*
#this reminds me for some reason ok so with the release of the rwrb movie I reread the book#and idk if you read it but there’s a scene where the main character's mom#finds out he's. you know. fucking the prince of england. so she makes a powerpoint#that's like: “EXPERIMENTING WITH YOUR SEXUALITY: HEALTHY‚ BUT DOES IT HAVE TO BE WITH THE PRINCE OF ENGLAND?”#so I had the FUNNIEST image of kiva making a powerpoint for drako#like “EXPERIMENTING WITH YOUR SEXUALITY: HEALTHY‚ BUT DOES IT HAVE TO BE WITH A DOMESTIC TERRORIST?”#(<- ignore the fact that drako would very much not be experimenting that's not important right now)#and obviously just tbos doesn't have powerpoints and in tbosmaucu I'm pretty sure the harasaeons aren't royalty and nate isn't a terrorist#wait are the harasaeons still royalty I actually genuinely can't remember now like I think they are actually damn my memory sucks#nate isn't a terrorist though. which is the important part here#so this would have to be a 3rd tbos. (4th. I almost forgot about darktbosmaucu) modern au#where nate is still a terrorist and drako is still royalty.#nevertheless this image is hysterical to me#and I just wanted you to know#ask#hella1975#hi hella!🔪
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"you aren't very EMPATHETIC to detransitioners! ☹️" yeah dude. that was kinda the whole point of the post. try again
#i don't really have much empathy for people who have no empathy for me#also I don't think they should exacerbate their own suffering thru harmful rhetoric about both their own bodies and those of others#which actually is the more empathetic take I can say wrt detransitioners. certainly more empathetic than their own rhetoric#like I'm literally out here saying they should reduce their own suffering and that of those in their communities#which seems to involve constantly referring to themselves as shit like “mutilated” and “ruined” like how is that healthy?#they're the ones saying no we need to suffer and also you need to suffer because ??????????#there isn't even a good reason for it.#when my literal point is that my sympathy is severely limited when a person makes the choice to be a fucking bigot#you're not exactly gonna sway me by just. pointing that out. like yeah duh#detransitioners love to self-infantilize and say it was the evil doctors and the evil trans people who made them do it#it was ANYTHING but their own choice#and they're so used to being coddled for claiming it that they seem baffled when others don't buy it lmao.#just like i don't buy that hrt wasn't ultimately your own choice i don't buy that you can't help being a self-loathing bigot. sorry!
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Having brain worms. What if uhhhhhh SOS Mianite au
#this is a fully undeveloped idea but it is simmering#initial thoughts. mog is so champion of ianite. fwip is dianite's.#I'm not convinced of who mianite's is yet but i feel like sausage is desperately vying for the role and getting repeatedly rejected#oli ends up as a reluctant ianitee. he was originally a dianite follower but dianite found him annoying and was a dick so oli ditched him.#ianite finds him funny and decides to pick him up and now he's trying very hard not to mess it up bc she actually respects him#joel would claim not to need any stupid god until he sees how much fun fwip is having causing problems on purpose with dianite and gives in.#his wife joining up with dianite probably also doesn't desuade him in that department#jimmy isn't particularly keen on any of them. he's off doing his own thing#katherine feels very classic mianitee to me.#I've got mixed feelings on Pix. i kind of feel like he should be on his own thing (priest? wizard? something like that)#if not he's ianitee i think. but it takes him awhile to commit#joey's dianitee. eloise feels ianitee to me. shubble probably mianitee.#is that everyone? i think that's everyone#idk if this would be a scenario where the world/plot was more based on mianite or sos honestly#maybe a healthy mix.#do we keep the death/fate coin element? idk idk maybe not? but it doesn't feel like sos without some hardcore element#gotta sit on it#this is the first time in a long time I've just done like straight up stream of consciousness brainstorming in the tags of a post huh#feels very 2020#OWEN I FORGOT OWEN. UH. i feel like he might help balance out the mianite team. i can't put it into worlds but it feels right#he's the type of guy that you look at and immediately think dianite and you're wrong#but i could be tempted to switch him and joey. cause joey did have the whole prison thing in sos which is very mianite#even if he's generally the most dianitee guy i have ever fucking seen#i. i also forgot scott.#embarrassing. I've been watching him the longest and he's the only one on this list I've actually written into mianite crossovers before#uhhhh anyways he feels very true neutral to me. he's another one who i feel like maybe he should be off doing his own thing#if not probably mianite#this is such a mess lmao#i had to put the idea down somewhere before my head exploded sorry
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"if you think that kryptos was from flatland and you believe bill genuinely cared about him, meaning he had some fort of actual human connection to another flatlander, why did bill still end up destroying the place? wouldn't kryptos trying to stop him have either made him reconsider his actions, or made him get rid of kryptos entirely?" well you see when bill was burning flatland, kryptos was whooping and hollering and breaking out the champagne
#imo on paper bill and kryptos have the healthiest relationship bill has ever had-- hell off paper too#BUT it's really just because kryptos has like nearly alway agreed with bill's decision making except for small bickery things#that really don't matter#YEAH kryptos has some weird bad upsetting feelings about the second dimension being destroyed but it's very much a#'oh wait the catharsis is wearing off' thing#while it was happening? the minute he realized what was going on he was all for it#bill isn't even inhernetly trying to manipulate andy this is truly just their Dynamic. which is unhealthy in itself but! not intentionally#andy is so lost in the 'bill is the best person i know and he's always right' sauce that he genuinely doesn't want ot argue with bill#he just assumes bill is correct and right and any weird feelings he ever has are just flukes#meanwhile bill just would not know how to react if andy suddenly started disagreeing with him on anything serious#like??? this is andy. andy's smart he knows what's up why is he suddenly being Stupid#he would not handle it well but also he'll never have to because they're so weirdly codependent at this point that this is just the Dynamic#and it's not flat out abusive like every other dynamic in bill's life but man. Man.#'i was eight years old before anyone was ever really nice to me and actually wanted to be my friend and now eons later we're#just enmeshed but we do genuinely care about each other and it's the closest thing to healthy that we know so we don't think we have to#change anything about our dynamic'
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