#when people say that Silco never truly loved Jinx or that Jinx never truly saw him as a father

[ishasdefender]

Two things I’ve noticed about Jinx;

She never calls Silco “dad” - but she refers to Vander as “dad” twice. Once when she mentions to Vi that he’s “her father too” and again in the last episode, she directly says to him “dad?”

One thing I always was a little sad about was the idea that Jinx saw Silco as more of her father than Vander - but now I’m wondering if she EVER truly saw Silco as her dad. I mean, she never once refers to Silco as such.

Many people, including Silco, refer to Jinx as his daughter but never him as her Dad.

I do wonder if it’s due to Jinx, while clearly caring a lot about him, not viewing him that way OR some small part of her holding resentment to him because of how he killed Vander.

In addition to that; Jinx constantly refers to Vi as her sister, like ALL the time. In almost every sentence, she calls Vi “sis,” sometimes affectionately, mostly as a more of insult. But she says it at least on 7 seperate occasions in season 2 alone.

Aside from 1.03 where Silco first takes Powder in and she says that Vi is “not her sister” anymore, Jinx NEVER claims that Vi is no longer her sister.

Vi does. Multiple times in season 2, she says Powder is gone and that Jinx is not her sister. She says it to Caitlyn and to Jinx’s face herself.

It’s super interesting to me that while Jinx clearly tries to separate herself from her past and from Powder, the girl she used to be, she still clearly see Vi and Vander as her family. She’s always been Powder, that’s never changed.

Jinx has tried so hard to kill that part of herself but as long as she still views Vi as her sister, Vander as her dad, she is never going to be rid of her younger self; the girl who only wanted to protect her family.

And that’s not even touching the subject of Ekko; the only person from her past that has fully accepted her as both Powder and Jinx and loves her anyway, the only person she has not been able to bring herself to kill, the only person who never once appeared as one of her hallucinations. As such, the only person aside from Isha who she never seemed to hallucinate around.

Anyway this is just me rambling.

[pzychojinx]

as I said, act two left me with genuinely mixed opinions. that said, I slept on it and I think I'm able to verbalize it a little bit.

let's start with what I think went right in this act. first of all, obviously, the animation and art. if possible, they're outdoing themselves. I love the experimentation, I absolutely adored the pastel tones they used for vi and jinx's childhood memories, the way isha's point of view sequence feels like it's straight out of a ghibli movie, I loved the distortion effects used on jayce and every single visual effect they used for viktor to convey this sense of absolute inhumanity, the entire messianic visuals were insane, warwick was gorgeous especially during sequences where we didn't get to see him but rather we got to see the camera following his massacre. gorgeous. no notes.

episode four, in my opinion, was near perfect plot-wise too. seeing the new state of the military situation in zaun, getting to see sevika as the rallier of the revolution, isha's drive to be a fighter for zaun leading her to impersonate jinx when needed, the whole mission to enter stillwater - I genuinely think it was incredible. most of all, it was probably my favourite jinx episode to date. and that's saying a lot. this is a character I've resonated with and held very very close to my heart for three years now. seeing her gain not only a younger sister through whom there could be a process of reclaiming her own past, but also very importantly seeing her gain new objectives and seeing her gain community, was deeply healing and heartwarming to me. that one scene where her followers touch her, not only as an idol but as an equal, is so so moving and good. isha was the kickstarter to jinx's reclaiming of powder and a sense of stability, sure, but living in a fantasy with isha alone could have very easily led her to the same old mechanism of co-dependency - thus never breaking the cycle that silco himself perpetrated onto her. but no, they made her respected. they made her see a nation of people who saw something in her. they gave her goals, even if she reasonably only started giving a fuck about said goals when her sister/child went missing. it was everything I never thought could happen to her. it was healing.

episode five is where the issues start, I think. first of all, there's been way way way too much space dedicated to the black rose. much as I love mel, much as I find her truly intriguing, her plotline is so severely disconnected from everything else and it feels un-cohesive. before s2 started, one of my main fears was that they would give noxus an excessive screentime in order to prepare the viewers for a future noxus project and I hate to see that I was right. this leads to the second issue, which is pacing. and specifically, vi. vi stans, how are you doing? because to be fair, the show kind of fucked you over and there's no sugar-coating it. the fact that vi's fighting pit era lasted three minutes was genuinely ridiculous. the entire plotline involving her, jinx and warwick in episode five was way, way too rushed in order to make space for black rose content - and again, I love mel, I love ambessa. but there's no doubt something was off here in terms of pacing and screentime. now, I don't think the episode was bad. I loved the dynamic between jinx and vi. with jinx having gained some sort of a stability (at least, for her standards) and vi having nothing else to lose, the fact that their conflict turned into a half unwilling cooperation felt very real and believable to me and I loved their interactions, especially in the micro expressions; it all screamed family bond where something went awfully wrong but here we fucking are and the love is still there at the roots. I just, you know, would have liked to see more of it. the final hug with warwick felt, to me, less earned than it could have been if we just had a little more time with these characters in this arc. was it emotional? sure, but could it have hit harder if the episode was just structured a little bit differently, a little more cohesively, especially regarding vi? yeah. and another question: would the zaunite revolution arc have needed more than just one episode before being pushed aside and sort of forgotten? probably, yeah, even though there's no comparison with how vi's arc was reduced to three mins. so again, pacing issue. still, I had no particular issues with the plot and the contents of the story itself. I would say episode five was rushed, crammed and structurally weak, but the story still hit me in all the right ways when it needed to. vi and jinx's reluctant steps to some sort of understanding hit me hard, in spite of any structural weakness.

episode six... well. episode six leaves me so conflicted. 'cause the thing is, it's dope. I think it's a fucking bomb. they managed to fit nearly (nearly - mel being, again, dissociated from the main storyline and in this case, absent) every character's plotline into a cohesive arc. it kept me on the edge of my seat near the whole time. there were so, so many things I absolutely adored - the imminent attack on the commune from ambessa, the way they managed to make warwick a center plot point and use that plot point to show us both the benefits and the limitations of viktor's hexcore messianic utopia cult, everything regarding jayce's return (whom is getting so much hate, but come on, it's clear the man has seen Some Things), the way the episode starts off with a plan but not necessarily a sense of deep urgency and then the urgency slowly creeps in and it explodes into a fucking battlefield. again, warwick. vi and jinx's slow re-building of some trust, slow reclaiming of family love. viktor. man, I adored their work on viktor. I just found it dope. the thing is, episode six has two major, major issues that I just can't seem to get past and this time it's plot issues, which makes it worse than 2.05 for me.

the first one, caitlyn. sure, I get that caitlyn wasn't fully onto ambessa's methods. but there's a very huge leap from 'I distrust this person and I question her methods' to 'my ex told me that this savage monster that just brutally mauled our men is her father so I'm just gonna help her save him'. like jesus, come on. caitlyn deserved better than this. (again, shoutout to vi stans, cait stans and caitvi stans, they did you dirty.) especially when I think they did such a good job on her descent in act one. the second one, isha. look, I'm gutted if she's dead. like fucking gutted, mourning, red-wedding level in shock, like, can't even think about it without wanting to cry. but this is not just an emotional thing. in fact, I love some good angst. no, this is a narrative issue. they spent the entire act - the entire season - building up jinx's healing and to take it all away like this, to bring her back to step one, just feels like fucking trauma porn for the sake of it. it feels unnecessary and cheap, and cheapness is the one thing I can't forgive arcane. like, what was the point? why not have her spiral from 2.01 if this was the direction? it's beyond me and it makes me feel so bitter, so sick, that at times it's hard for me to remember that there were so, so many things I adored in these three episodes. again, 2.04 is up there as my favourite jinx episode to date. 2.05 gave me some of my favourite siblings moment in the entire show. 2.06's work on viktor and hexcore and magic is otherwordly. I'm so glad I got these episodes, genuinely. and yet.

'cause the thing is, - not considering the isha thing for a minute - aside from my critique regarding caitlyn, and aside from having to make peace with how rushed/crammed the pacing is, this show is still absolutely gorgeous to me. it's still gorgeous art to me. sure, s2 has its very real issues. and for sure, it's absolutely reasonable to recognize them, critique them, and still find it an incredible story. but this. fuck, this could change everything to me. if isha's truly dead, then it means they wasted six episodes on what could have been one of the best, most genuine, most earned stories of unexpected healing I'd ever seen on my screen just to throw it away and I'm not sure how to forgive them for that. episode six itself was dope. episode six isn't really where my gut-deep fear and bitterness comes from. it's where it could lead from now on. I'm so holding out hope on ekko saving the day, even if it's a deus ex machina. it's a deus ex machina I'd accept if it means not throwing away jinx's entire road to recovering. but I don't know, guys. I don't know. making her spiral as a general s2 choice would have been one thing, and I would have been on board, but this is something else entirely. this is cheap betrayal and if true, if confirmed, if real, it's a sour taste.

[aryesdanger24]

Can I just say that I love how many layers there are surrounding Sevika and her change towards Jinx....because...

1. Sevika misses Silco (perhaps it was the stable chaos or something to do to stop thinking of the suffering. Perhaps she truly likes to protects things in her own way.) It shows in the way she is not utterly messing up the Chem Barons, it's because she misses not making every decision.

2. Jinx is the mess Silco left her, the last one.

She is what is left of his legacy and it is the last thing that ties her to him since as she said "everything he made has crumbled, everything they built" but Jinx is still there, a testament of his life. One who mirrors Silco in his chaotic wish for stability where he finally is in control. Jinx is the opposite of Silco yet the same, she is fighting against topside (her sister who betrayed her) much like Silco but where he needed manpower, Jinx needs mental support.

Jinx needs control like Silco to balance her mental health to create a peace of mind under the sheer power of her own mental trauma. Sevika is what Silco created and she intends to make sure his legacy lives.

3. Sevika finally sees what Silco saw in Jinx.

She could see it when Jinx, without needing to, gave her a literal helping hand. Improved it even to mirror the new era of chaos the undercity is brewing.

When Jinx said it was because she could fix something, it shows a vulnerability and a strength to grow. It shows that Jinx has matured and Sevika is recognizing that Jinx won't always be the bratty psychopath whom she couldn't understand anymore. That, like Silco, there are layers underneath it, a loyalty much like Sevika's to the footprints left behind by Silco.

4. Sevika enjoys serving others.

It shows in the way she states her allegiance even if she disagrees.

She seems to need to not be completely alone, perhaps she has alcohol problems or a deep festering brain that rambles or just something that won't leave her be. She likes to be in control with someone she deems weaker (thus why she traded Vander for Silco) she doesn't follow weak people, but that's the thing. She follows, she never leads even when she is the oldest between Jinx and the little girl Isha. She prefers to help someone than hold the responsibility and all the irritating moralistic choices. (Which is why I believe she doesn't like to think much by herself).

So yeah.... I really enjoy this new Sevika changing arc happening, but it's more or less just showing how deep these layers go will be more interesting because I don't think she even realizes how much she has feelings because they are veiled beneath the word 'loyalty' for her.

Curious to see how deep the change runs but God I love a buff queen.

[vole-mon-amour]

2x02, part 2.

the way Sevika is STILL loyal to Silco, even though he's dead and she doesn't have to. i saw some spoilers, but I'll say this as if I haven't: the way she doesn't like Jinx, never did, but tried to help Silco understand Jinx being upset and how she'll get around. she's loyal to Silco, therefore she's loyal to Jinx.

gosh, I love Sevika. she truly is trying her best to fill Silco's place. she was his loyal guard dog for a damn good reason.

her expressions!! let's go, Sevika, let's go. the animation is so good. it's so subtle, so smooth, you gotta pay attention to the frames.

there's something so special about both Sevika and Jinx still hanging out at Silco's office, and both Sevika and Jinx talking to Silco. i'm pretty sure Sevika didn't know that Jinx is there, so she spoke out loud, but she knew where to aim WITHOUT HURTING JINX (!!) because Jinx hang up there often enough for Sevika to remember.

listen, I have 4 favourite characters in this series and that always was the case: Silco, Jinx, Sevika, VIktor. i love them with all my heart. Sevika was always such a great character & she deserves way more love.

poetic cinema.

just shows how truly important he was, what a strong grip he had on Zaun.

i like how when Sevika throws a piece of furtinure in her outburst, Jinx doesn't even BLINK, not to mention flinch. the way they are connected to Silco and how well they truly fit (for the lack of a better word) him.

the little scowl. babygirl, i love you so much.

baby girl. baby. this is such a cool little representation of how their process looks before they draw frame by frame/animate the thing to look smooth.

i hope Jinx kicks their asses. the fact that she's coughing but she can STILL breathe in this, just like Silco did when others couldn't. take off your masks, assholes, let's see how you can handle this gas.

honestly, Vi, this is such a dirty move. you never wanted to accept that Powder was always Jinx and Jinx was always Powder. Silco loved Jinx. you? maybe, in your own way, but maybe, mostly, the idea of your little sister? because Silco would NEVER do this. he accepted Jinx for who she always was and is. if he didn't, he wouldn't allow her all those things that got him in trouble and never wouldn't give her all the materials and all the playground that she wanted.

the coughing, crying, screaming fit. i'm so :_; for her.

"Baby Blue. Right through their fingers. You must be part eel."

And you must be a whole piece of shit, beating Jinx with such hatred for all those years you couldn't bring hard to her because of Silco.

i just want to hug her and hold her tight. she's the best girl ever.

LET'S GO, THE TWO CLOSEST PEOPLE TO SILCO EVER. LET'S GOOO.

i LOVE that Sevika tried to use Jinx's gun, but Junx fixed Sevika's arm, so they exchanged the weapons. Sevika managed not to only throw Jinx her gun, but managed to catch the arm. i also love that Jinx can shoot that gun without even looking. this is a symbiotic relationship that i currently ADORE.

i'm in love with this. <3

this is adorable and made me smile so much.

the smirk. the music. the babiest baby of all babies (the baddest bitches ever).

i'm pretty sure Sevika will hate the adjustments that Jinx made to her arm but hey. it's a free fix :D it's almost 2 am and here i am, smiling. i love this show so much. i didn't know i could have so much fun with it without Silco. it's a new vibe completely.

this is BADASS.

there are SO many expressions in this little scene, i couldn't possibly fit it into this post. yeah, i'm completely in love with this so far.

babygirl, please, i am begging you, destroy Vi. Silco aka her family is gone, Vi is being an asshole to her, so she's ready, more or less. let's fucking GO.

love seeing Jinx and Sevika communicating. love the "you've got that look in your eye again, what are you planning?" which simply shows you how well she knows Jinx.

also,

"i haven't asked you for this" "it was something I could fix."

aka it was no trouble for her. she loves the mechanical stuff. she does it with ease. Sevika's strong side is the brains and brutal force, so they work well together.

[deiastormborn]

Arcane Season 2 Finale theory. (Jinx, Cait and Vi)

Heya. Since I was somehow on a roll with my theories about the show previously, and I somehow hit the nail on 90% of the things I predicted, here is a new theory of mine.

Jinx is not dead. Yes, of course, that makes sense considering League of Legends exists, and everything that happened in Arcane happened before the game. Arcane was made canon, and a lot of current lore is being rewritten to match the show, so to people that play the game it's no surprise that Jinx is most likely alive. But how?

Here is what I think:

After Jinx said 'I didn't know your mom was in there', Cait realized that Jinx did in fact change. Or, at the very least, could relate to her pain and mistakes. If you think about it, Jinx's actions were mostly fueled with grief, and the rocket that was shot at the council building happened right after Silco died, who was like a father to Jinx. Caitlyn lost her mother, and became angrier, irrational, fueled with revenge. I think Jinx saying that to Caitlyn made her relate, and maybe understand what is hidden below all the madness that Jinx has in her.

I think Caitlyn and Jinx had a dialogue behind the scenes, that was not shown to us. Knowing Caitlyn's character and somewhat a soft heart, I think Caitlyn sat down and told Jinx that she can't be truely free due to the volume of the crimes that she has done. My idea is that Caitlyn tossed the idea to Jinx about escaping, fleeing, and faking her death. Didn't Caitlyn tell Vi that she became too predictable? Doesn't it mean that Caitlyn knew that Vi will try to free Jinx? Didn't Caitlyn say something about this place being thoroughly guarded too? Yet Jinx managed to escape anyhow?

I genuinely don't think it was done without Caitlyn's interference.

Maybe, after the talk that Caitlyn had with Jinx behind the scenes, Jinx asked Caitlyn to keep Vi oblivious to everything that is happening. Hence why Jinx said that Vi deserves to be with Caitlyn - that could not have gone out of nowhere. Caitlyn and Jinx didn't interact enough in the show for Jinx to say that. And Vi never really spoke to Jinx about Caitlyn for her to make this conclusion.

Now, possibly, Jinx took the whole 'fake the death' quite literal, since we see her go quite suicidal after that. It is possible that she thought that it is pointless, and genuinely didn't want to try and run anymore, hence why she attempted to blow herself up. Luckily, Ekko came in, and the rest we know.

However, it doesn't sit right with me. Not just because Jinx is very much alive in game, but also the fact that we were shown Caitlyn looking at the tower where Jinx fell, while holding the Jinx's monkey bomb in her hand. She also let go of a slight smile when she zoomed in on all the exits and rooms in the tower. Something tells me Jinx knew how to escape, and something tells me Caitlyn was the one who told her. Something also tells me that the balloon we saw at the very last scene of the whole show might have had Jinx in it.

The show is notorious for showing scenes that always mean and imply something. I previously had a theory where I drew a parallel between Vander, Silco and Felicia, with Caitlyn, Vi and Jinx, where Felicia was bringing Vander and Silco closer to each other, and her death ended up splitting them both. I truly think Caitlyn was meant to be the same mediator for Jinx and Vi as Felicia was for Vander and Silco. And maybe that was it. Maybe that's what happened.

Knowing Caitlyn, she is more than capable of forgiveness, and seeing good in people. I think it would be in her character to help Jinx escape, even if it is at a cost of lying to someone she loves.

And, since we see Jinx tell Vi to let go, I think it would be in her character to ask Caitlyn to keep Vi in the shadows.

[matchstickcosplay]

LRT or reblog or whatever with the Arcane posters and Jinx switching from the protected to the protector

Jinx's role as the protected sister has been important to their dynamic in so many ways. She is so used to having someone be there in case she falls, but also someone holding her back. Silco, Vi, even Vander. Jinx has never learned how to be herself. She wanted to be like her big sister growing up because she saw the acceptance Vi had from the other kids and she wanted that. (Vi didn't necessarily want this, but I can talk about that in a different post.) Jinx wanted to make Silco happy, so she devoted herself to making sure she made her dad proud. Jinx without Silco and without Vi and without Vander is the first time Jinx is able to discover who she actually is.

With the time she spent with Isha and Sevika, she could CHOOSE if she wanted to be a martyr and a symbol for Zaun. She could CHOOSE to spend her time helping Vi and Vander. She could CHOOSE to even take some time to herself with Isha and play with action figures and heal her inner child. Jinx IS always bombastic, loves bright colors, comes up with incredible inventions, and cares deeply about the people in her life. Through discovering who she was, she discovered her courage and what is important to her.

Isha helped her realize what Vi had been going through. It directly mirrors Vi's experience - seeing your younger sister, someone who you felt an incredible deep need to protect, jump into the battle because she wanted to be just like You. Catastrophe happens, she wasn't able to prevent it, and its because her younger sister made a choice.

After being thrown in jail just like Vi, she's able to consider the mixed emotions she had toward Isha. Back when she was "abandoned" by Vi, she only understood her own hurt. This time, she sees how easy it is to be angry with someone for making a stupid and reckless decision they were too young to even be considering making. She finally understands that Vi had just been trying to make sure she was safe.

Vi, on the other hand, has been instructed since she was a kid that the others look up to her. Vander's lecture would play in her head about how she sets an example for all the other kids. "You say run, they run." She feels so deeply responsible for Jinx's safety, and it was the only thing that she was able to think about while she was in prison.

Vi being able to discover who she is meant letting go of that responsibility she felt for Jinx. She had to let go of the unjust guilt she felt for not being able to protect her. Vi needed to be selfish and go after something SHE wanted. Vi had to hit rock bottom to discover she didn't know who she was because she had been fighting what she truly wanted with her duty tied to a promise to a dead man.

Thats why its so important that Jinx is able to tell Vi "you deserve to be happy with her." I've been seeing a lot of people say this scene is out of place for Jinx's character but its not. She's finally absolving Vi of her guilt and telling her its okay to be selfish. Jinx has matured to realize that Vi still loves her even if she loves someone else.

(This is even more highlighted in the previous alternative universe episode where Powder remarks about her sister upon seeing Ekko paint a mural for her. "Not my sister" - and talks about how she was always scared for everyone and that's why she fought so hard. Jinx will always understand Vi eventually.)

Jinx has finally gone from being the younger sister needing protection to seeing Vi for who she is and not how hurt she was from her perception of Vi. She goes from being protected by Vi to being a protector. Vi is finally allowed to be protected and not feel responsible for everyone. The series has always been about the sisters and being able to understand each other and their love. They were finally starting to approach each other on equal footing and thats why Jinx is such a tragedy.

Maybe one day we will get a poster of them just holding each other equally.

[mistynatruther]

i was trying to sleep but i needed to get this out somewhere so here i am:

with this new scene of young silco and the new knowledge we have of him knowing jinx’s mom made a lot of people who favor jinx and silco’s relationship come out of hiding, so i just have a few words. now this has probably been said before but i have curated my space to not show me much silco and jinx tbh for this specific reason.

so don’t get me wrong. i LOVE their relationship. it has made me cry on multiple occasions. but what really GETS me in this fandom is the romanization of it. and i don’t mean the part where people say their relationship give off weird vibes ( bc i GET that one ) but i mean the people who think everything in the show revolves around them two. that their relationship was the BEST and he cared about her more than anybody and he was such a GOOD dad.

bc i feel like we watched two different shows.

because to me, sometimes, their relationship barely feels like a father/daughter relationship. yes, he raised her. but it’s more than that. silco is a deeply traumatized man who has clung onto a child who he THINKS ( !!!!!!! ) is just like him.

and what i mean by this is:

he projects onto her soooo much. if you remember the scene in the monster you created when he’s telling her that everyone has abandon and betrayed them and blah blah blah… it’s not true! it’s him wanting her to be like him so bad, him grabbing and pulling and gripping onto somebody who understands him. it’s unhealthy.

when silco looks at vi, he doesn’t see felicia’s daughter, he sees vanders. and with that, he sees the betrayal. and it hurts him. vi, unintentionally, harms him in ways that he, himself, does not understand. when he looks at vi, all he can see is the the life he once had and the hurt he now has.

so he’s projecting his pain and trauma onto jinx because she is SOOO vulnerable. she is deeply traumatized as well, but it’s not in the same way silco is. because he says it over and over again, he says that vi ABANDONED jinx when she didn’t. she never did. never would have. he wants jinx to have gone through what he did so he’s not alone.

i think jinx and silco’s relationship is very sweet at times and i could never be mad that he took her in, because in that moment, she truly had nobody else. vi got taken away, her family was dead, where would she go? i mean sure, she would’ve ended up as a firelight probably, but silco didn’t know that. all he saw was himself when he looked at her.

and i saw some people saying he held her because he knew who she was and it was because of felicia, but when you rewatch that scene with the context of him and vander’s past, it’s so clear that vander is his motive, not felicia.

he sees powder and when she says that vi is not her sister anymore, in his head, he believes that he has now found a kindred spirit. someone who is just like him. “we will show them all” he is saying that they will show everybody that it was THIER loss, vi and vander lost silco and powder, not the other way around. “we will show them all” that we did not let this affect us like it could have!

idk rambling is now over. it’s 1am and i work in the morning but i could not get this out of my head.

( also pls don’t take this as jinx and silco hate cause it’s not! like i said i only appreciate their relationship but i appreciate it for WHAT IT IS and not what the fandom wants it to be. i just think they’re interesting and complex and severely trauma bonded. vander is jinx’s dad. silco was the man who raised her. there’s a difference. and yes, her love for silco would be so much stronger bc she spent so much more time with him!! anyways good night. )

[cherrybomb107]

I keep seeing people say Silco was a good father and I’m so confused. We literally saw how he groomed Jinx, isolated her, and helped turn her into the worst version of herself. Just look at the relationships Jinx had with the other characters in season one vs season two. She is SO MUCH BETTER now that he’s not around! Don’t get me wrong, Silco is one of my favorite characters in the show. I loved that evil mf DOWN, so don’t get it twisted! But calling him a good father is insane to me. He’s a lot of things, but a “good father” has never and will never be one of them. This is just my opinion ofc.

And no, I’m not one of those people who thinks he didn’t truly love her and that he only saw her as a weapon. He loved Jinx dearly, and that is a hill I am willing to die on. However, love is not enough to make someone a good father in my book. Especially when that love went hand in hand with enabling Jinx’s worst impulses and not establishing proper boundaries with her. Truth be told, there are two reasons why people still insist on calling Silco a “good father”.

1. They’re attracted to him. I know for a fact if he was genuinely ugly and not in a “sexy evil rat man hehe” kinda way, suddenly everyone would know that grooming children and turning them into weapons is bad. Like be so for real right now, if only for a second.

2. Silco is not the worst fictional father in history, and people confuse “not being the literal worst” with being “good”. It’s like breaking your leg vs dying. Obviously dying is the worst case scenario, so getting off with just a broken leg is marginally better than dying. However, it’s still a major injury. There is a world of difference between “better than” comparatively speaking, and “good”. I think a lot of people are confused about the difference between the two, and think that because Silco was a better father than the absolute worst of the worst, that automatically makes him a “good” father, when that just isn’t the case imo.

Because no way y’all are calling a man who: almost knifed his homegirl’s daughter but stopped himself because he saw himself in her, isolated, manipulated, groomed into becoming a weapon, enabled her, actively encouraged her to her obvious detriment, and projected his traumas onto her a “good father” without a hint of irony. No amount of love he had for her, whoever genuine it was, is gonna make him a “good father”. At least in my book🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

[ed3lsgard]

My two cents on Silco + him and Jinx

Uhh I have a lot of thoughts and feelings after s2 and I wanna get this off my chest lol. Seeing Silco appear as a hallucination in Jinx’s cell like activated something in me. This will be kinda long.

I’ve always found Silco’s character fascinating, he’s one of my favorite arcane characters. He’s set up to be the antagonist but there’s more to it than that, it’s not black and white. The whole point of arcane is that every character has a reason to do what they do, they are supposed to be morally grey. If you had to pick a villain for reason one, yes it would obviously be Silco. But again, everyone has a reason to do what they do.

Silco’s ultimate goal was to establish the independent nation of zaun. He wanted to free his people from their ties with piltover, to get rid of their control. Now, did the way he go about that was ethical or humane? No, he caused many people to die, he spread shimmer to the public, causing them irreversible damage. Silco, though he had his reasons to do what he did, “for a greater cause”, regardless was still not a good man.

But his relationship with jinx if you ask me, somewhat redeems him, or at least makes him much more likable. It’s adds a depth to his character. In all honesty, his relationship with jinx was mostly of a toxic and manipulative nature. He enabled her behaviors, manipulated her for his cause, and is a huge part of the reason why jinx grew up to be so unhinged and unstable. Was he a good man? No. Was he a good father? No not really. But there is one undeniable fact. He loved jinx unconditionally as his daughter. Everything he did for the future of zaun, he did with her at mind. With the context of season two, we find that Felicia tells him and vander to figure out this zaun thing for her, and especially for her kids. This information sheds a new layer of light into Silco’s motivations.

This is highlighted by the fact that when he went to negotiate with jayce, when Jayce asked for jinx in return for the independent nation of zaun, the one singular goal he dedicated a massive chunk of life to achieve, for the first time he hesitated. The one topic he never would have thought to be unsure of pursuing. Because he was doing all of this for jinx, as he tells her himself. But if he had to give up his daughter for it, the nation he was trying to secure not just for everyone, but for her, what good will that do? Just as he tells the statue of vander, “is there anything so undoing as a daughter?”. This is when everything falls into place for him. How he presumably started from using her and manipulating her for his cause when he first took her in, to then truly seeing her as his daughter, loving her enough to choose her over his dream. He finds himself finally understanding vander, why he was so reluctant to fight in order to protect his kids. Again, as he says: “oh it all makes sense now brother. Is there anything so undoing, as a daughter?”

Silco was not a good father, because he was too traumatized and too damaged to know how to be one. This is not meant as an excuse for him, it is just a fact. The traumas he endured (fallout with vander, losing Felicia, the oppression of zaun etc) probably rendered him incapable of being the proper, stable father figure jinx needed. But he still loved her, truly saw her as his daughter. If the circumstances were different, if he was normal or if they both were, he probably would have been a good father.

There is a distinct difference between him and vander as being jinx’s fathers. Vander saw himself in vi, as he was once like her, understood her wanting to fight for their city, for family, against piltover ect. Him and vi were more similar and alike. But silco saw himself in jinx. It is the reason why he was quick to take her in. Because he had been in the exact place she was, abandoned by the older sibling, left all alone. He empathized with her.

In the end, despite how manipulative he might have been, how he only enabled her decline, it wasn’t done on purpose, it was just how it was. he still loved her unconditionally. Loved her enough to give up his dream for her, to take her bullets and to die for her. His dying words to her was telling her she was perfect. Not as jinx, as he had said before in the river “jinx is perfect”. As he was dying, he didn’t know if she would choose to be powder or jinx, (since she had pulled out both of the chairs with the names on it, whichever one she would sit on would be who she would be). But instead he said she was perfect, insinuating as whoever she chose to be. His dying words to his daughter were to validate her.

Do I think they had a healthy normal father and daughter relationship? No. But I love the complexity of it, how both of these individuals are so broken and traumatized due to what they have been through, but can take comfort in each other due to a mutual understanding.

[thewistlingbadger]

Hi! I’ve seen some stuff going around about Silco and his motivations. Whether or not he wanted true freedom for Zaun or power and control. What are your thoughts? At least to me, he was ready to give up everything for Zaun until it came to Jinx, which obviously, what dad would turn in his daughter. So what do you think?

Becoming the leader of Zaun was NOT solely a power move on Silco's behalf. Had he only cared about his own power, greed, and ego, he would have been just like all the other chem barons and the show makes it clear that Silco is not like the chem barons, he's above all that. Had it truly only been about himself, he could have stopped long ago. But instead he kept pushing for more.

Zaun is Silco's everything. Even when he does get Jinx, Zaun is still his everything. We don't know much of his background, but we know this is what he's been working towards his whole life. He's witnessed atrocities that only those from zaun witness. The things he's witnessed have radicalized him to the extent that he forms his identity around the idea of zaun independence and its plausibility. Silco leaves and breathes Zaun, it's always been about the liberation movement for him.

That's not to say he didn't entertain his own ego though. Part of it was him being the leader, him calling the shots in a life where everything has seemed out of his control. And we know how much Silco loves control. Part of it is getting his due diligence, getting what he deserves. Which means being a strong powerful figure who's clean and polished and perfect and wealthy. In a world where Zaun prosperity has been deemed impossible Silco has gone above and beyond to ensure that he is a success story.

This is my personal interpretation/headcanon:

Silco lived a hard life. He saw despair and destruction from the moment he was born. He's seen famine and disease and death. He's know suffering and pain like his own face. Where some people get discouraged by that amount of lived misfortune, silco was enraged by it, ("my whole life I've known I'm less than them. I want more for Powder and I'm willing to fight for it"), he was inspired by it, it was what kept him going.

He wasn't popular among his peers, they often looked down on him or overlooked him completely. He was a weird kid, some of the things he would say made no sense to people and the way he behaved sometimes left them unnerved ("She jinxes every job. Everytime she comes along...").

He fell in love with the concept of the undercity having no ties to Piltover in his childhood or perhaps even in his adolescence. The independent nation of Zaun. Imagine the problems that could be cured without Pilltover's looming dominance. Maybe they wouldn't have to work in the mines anymore. Maybe they could have more food and less sickness and maybe they'd all be richer, maybe they'd all have better lives. No one understood his vision. They all thought him mad, his passionate ramblings of revolution, speaking only of a fool's dream. All except for one man, a man he would have never expected support from since he was beloved by all. But Vander thought he was a genius, and he agreed completely with him. They worked together to build upon Silco's dream, which was now their dream ("when you're going to change the world, don't ask for permission"). Even though people still disliked Silco, they rallied to his cause. It took years to finally get to the point Silco had been waiting for... but we all know what happened. We know that somehow, his plans came toppling down, and he lost the only person that actually cared for him. The person that upheld his dream.

But zaun was his destiny. And he wasn't going to be stopped by one man who didn't have the nerve to go all the way. He was going to do whatever it took to accomplish his goal. There wasn't going to be a single line he wouldn't cross, absolutely nothing that would stop or slow him. Finally,bhe was going to show everyone who ever doubted him how wrong they were. He was going to show piltover too ("we will show them all"). And one day, this city was going to be his, as it always had been. ("one day, this city is going to respect us").

[ravenkinnie]

thoughts on jinx largely using pink for her graffitis because the color reminds her of vi??

i like to think its true bcs it makes all those years of stewing resentment/longing/grieving before she sees vi again hits a little more harder. vi seeps into even the most trivial parts be it conscious or subconscious. even in her 'JINX' grafitti tag the first letter 'JI' is drawn in a shape similar with 'VI' the letter J is just tilted kind of, which is a blatant visual representation of how jinx's heart and soul yearns for her sister. its these little things that truly make me realize how obsessed jinx is with vi & idk to me the fandom doesnt talk enough ab it.

I mean I'll be real lads, jinx was using pink way before arcane and before her and vi were even sisters and I think they chose it because pink and blue go well together and now shes stuck with it forever ksjsjsj. I'm also glad s2 is coming out soon because the more people try to find VI in every poster the more I'm starting to feel like that encanto tweet that's like were running out of things to say about this movie jaisusj

don't get me wrong, I'm also prone to delusions, like riot renewed their K/DA trademark and I've been reading signs in the water and the sky for an upcoming EP/album so its not like I also don't live in delululand but my stance is we don't need to read the posters for signs of jinx's feelings towards vi when jinx already told us. like vi is one of the two protagonists we already know she's central to the story and we know that the vi jinx relationship is the centre of the show and the heart of it. and if you don't realise that then I think you will really love arcane because clearly you've never seen it before jajsjksks

but like, they are the centers of each others stories, vis entire arc in s1 is basically just defined by her sister and s2 will probably do little to change that at least in the first half. we know jinx defines herself outside of vi in some ways but she can't really cut her off, she says explicitly vi is a voice she heard over the years, and seven years on a bitch that slightly looks like vi is a trigger. silcos dead ass or not, that's not something you just move past, vi will always be the most important figure. esp since based on trailers we saw so far it seems that jinx in her current position is not living her best life, we've only seen her struggling and looking devastated so far and I assume vi will also not be thriving so I think it will only emphasise how they really are all each other has. and you can say vi has caitlyn now but first of all, caitlyn is insane amd also a bitch and now has personal and political beef with her sister. second of all, caitvi fandom simply is classist so you would think its not a problem but the class divide between them is a huge part of vis character in league and I assume they will keep thay in arcane looking at the direction they are going towards. they both will never have another person like each other, someone who knows where you come from

the reason the fandom doesnt care about it is not because its not true and factual to the show, its just how this fandom works. firstly, nobody cares about platonic relationships already. secondly, parts of the fandom that care about jinx don't necessarily care about vi and parts of the fandom that care about vi don't necessarily care about jinx so hilariously there doesn't seem to be a ton of overlap between the two parts of the fandom where you would have that relationship explored. and it's a very messy relationship that doesn't show either of them in the best light and fanon content is chronically allergic to complicated dynamics so at most you're getting like ship fics with background vi and jinx fluff or like few throwaway angst lines. and most meta on them just tries to argue that the other one is the problem kskskksksj

[thewistlingbadger]

All the shade in the world when we say we want complex women characters we want more Ellie Williams and other characters whose actions make our insides twist, not frustrate us. We want characters that we hold beloved to become corrupted by fate but still have the opportunity for some redemption.

Caitlyn Kiramman is an interesting character, but she does not fit the bill for the "complex female characters" we desire. Jinx, Vi, and Mel better fit that bill. All three of those women have given us reason to both love and despise them. Many a difficult conversation have they been the subject of. And to me personally Cait just falls flat. And I don't think it's her own fault I think it's the writing. Season 1 cait is 🔛🔝 but season two cait? I understand that she's grieving her mother, HOWEVER, we barely saw any interaction between the two of them and the little that we did see showed us that she wasn't fucking with her like that/they had a complex and somewhat negative relationship. Imagine how the season opened with Cait actually finding her mom's dead body. We would all feel sick, and we'd all pity her. Or imagine had we been given a flashback between her and her mother when she was a child in the garden, having a good time. Or imagine how they just even mentioned the fact that their relationship was strained. Losing a parent is bad, what makes it worse is having unfinished business with that parent (which is why people love the story of Ellie Williams, it's why we understand why she wants to go after her father's killer other than the fact that the killer murdered her father). Caitlin only having one motivation to go after jinx, to descend into hell, to avenge her mother is not even. "Jinx killed mom now I kill Jinx" there's nothing compelling about that. We've seen the story several times.

Just to give a direct comparison.

Jinx's dad was a man she had an extremely complicated relationship with and this relationship was showcased throughout the season. The fact that she essentially lost her sister and killed her father at the same time is what pushes her over the edge. We completely understand why she's going to burn the world down because the show told us over and over and over again. Jinx always manages to lose the people she loves the most, and this time it's happened directly by her own hand.

Jinx's missile only kills three people, blows up a building, and inspiresb fear in the hearts of pilties and amazment in the hearts of Zaunites. Her actions were bad, but ultimately very few people actually suffered from her actions. The council only lost three people, it's not like pilltover's governmentless now (like how zaun is). The damage to the building wasn't that bad and it's easily repairable. And overall from her actions alone the citizens of pilltover are still safe.

Now let's look at cait. She's actively ruining the lives of zaunites by mass gassing them (we also how many kids were on the street. We all know how many homeless and disabled people there are in zaun. Now they're all negatively affected due to cait's lust of vengeance) and by arresting them when they've committed no crime. She's parading around the city with deadly weapons, under the authority of which she does not have! Cait abuses her name and her position as an enforcer to DEMAND that the council follow her plan. She had absolutely no right to storm into there and act like she had the power to call shots. What's even more gross is that she completely lied to them! Her goal was never to locate jinx, it was always to kill Jinx. If she truly cared about bringing jinx to proper justice, she would have ensured she be brought alive. If she truly cared about dismantling shimmer, she would have done that first bc A. Vi knows exactly where the factory is and B. According to silco, the last attack already cut the supply in half. It would have been easy to finish that off. Caitlyn acts like she's judge, jury, and Executioner the entire time she's down there. Her prejudice increases exponentially AS does her willingness to he openly prejudice. She literally refers to Vi's countrymen as animals, and accuses vi of being disloyal several times! and must we truly mention the assault she did? Must we mention that she was willing to kill a kid? That's a line jinx herself has not even willingly crossed yet, and she's practically crossed all other lines.

At the moment Caitlin is not a character who's doing the wrong things for what she believes is the right reason. She's acting out of complete selfishness. Even jinx, who committed an act of terrorism, didn't do it for herself. She did it for her dad, who worked so hard to bring down piltover and didn't live to see it because he refused to trade his daughter for Independence and peace.

So these are just only a few reasons why people don't support her this season. And her level of oppression, arrogance, and maliciousness is exactly why people are calling out those who defend her, because the majority of her defenders are privileged and white.

"We want more complex female characters" you can't even handle an angry, grieving daughter who just had her mother killed by her future wife's sister, shut the fuck up

[mysterioustrumpet]

man i just.. . really cant get over how silco truly loved jinx up until the end. he wasn't a good person, he wasn't the good guy, he wasn't even a good father in the sense of raising jinx to be a good person, but here's the thing. powder changed the moment she realized she had caused the deaths of her loved ones. regardless of it being an accident or a mistake, regardless of her trying to help, it was an extremely traumatic moment and even if she had stayed with vi, she would have been changed by it. silco recognized that, he understood it, and he allowed jinx the freedom to express her pain in the way that she needed. he tells jinx time and time again that she's perfect. that isn't for his sake. silco was under the impression that vi was dead the whole time, he wasn't raising jinx as a weapon of revenge against vi. he was raising jinx as his daughter. he assures jinx that she's perfect because silco loves and accepts her the way she is. silco doesn't want jinx to be in pain, it's evidenced when jinx is hurt on the bridge and silco carries her to get help. it's evidenced when jinx is hurt on the surgery table and silco is distraught at her pain. it's evidenced at the very end his life, at the table with vi, when vi is reminding jinx of mylo and claggor and vander and even though for vi, these are people are sources of love and happiness for her, for jinx, they're sources of pain. they are sources of trauma. and silco knows that. when he pointed the gun at vi, it was because he saw that jinx being reminded of her past was painful for her. and when silco's dying, he still says "you're perfect". she doesn't need to change to fit in the box that vi wants her to be in. powder died the day she realized she had killed her family, and silco accepts jinx for who she is. she's his daughter, and he'll never forsake her.

[space-blue]

Is it me or during the wacky family reunion dinner scene at the finale jinx tried to make it seem to Vi that Silco didn’t matter much to her. Thoughts?

Hi Anon!

That is a very interesting take... I... think not? Mostly because she was so high on the shimmer juice, and so obviously upset. I don't think there was a lot of artifice going on, besides the obvious "uwu face" she made at Vi when asking her to kill Cait and the whole fake beheading antics.

The short reply is : I didn't take it as Jinx making an effort to downplay Silco's importance, but rather her not caring to explain/correct.

The long ramble version is :

I think Jinx truly misunderstood Silco's meaning, at the statue, because she's so emotional in response to his clarification about loving her and never surrendering her. Hence she had him present at that table because she was angry with him too, and it fit her crazy plans for a "family dinner".

To be FAIR, Jinx has a very strange relationship with Silco, which makes me think that she might not love him for who he is, might now know him that well—not as well as he knows her or values her, at least. During the entire show we see her strive for his respect ("He'll think I'm weak!") but we never see her acknowledging his dreams/goals, or actually even being careful about them (cue blowing up a ton of enforcers to get the gem, which stressed Silco the fuck out, even if he saw the gem as potentially worth it).

Overall, they seem to have a close relationship emotionally, but with Silco being the more mature and stable one. She's clearly dismissive of his well being at times too (the way he reacts to her hurting him with his own medicine gear really hints that this isn't the first time she blows up like that). While he worries about her mental and physical states.

And it ends up at the dinner, where again she's manhandling him, and again he's taking her side despite everything, defending her and trying to get her to calm down.

She's clearly in an altered shimmer induced state anyway... But it seemed to me that she wasn't even trying for Vi to perceive Silco as anything in particular.

Vi was there to chose: Jinx or Cait, pick one. Silco was there because she misunderstood his speech (and because naratively he HAS to be there, so he can die). But Vi's role at the dinner seems a little unrelated to him/his presence. Jinx isn't forcing them to get along, or talk.

If Vi DID kill Cait, I'm sure the "what now?" conversation would have included Silco. As it is, I think after Silco dies and Vi says the grossly unperceptive "It'll be all right", like Silco truly was meaningless and couldn't have meant much, Jinx says nothing because there is nothing she could say that would make Vi understand, after she misunderstood EVERYTHING about Jinx for so long, and so much.

Jinx isn't dumb. The set up of the dinner table really reveals she knows that Vi still perceives her as "little Powder". She spent far too long becoming Jinx and claiming "Powder is dead" for her to seriously be considering "reverting" to Powder. Silco sort of calls out her bluff too. I think she's couching the choice in very obvious terms, and because Vi won't accept Jinx anyway.

Vi is looking for Powder. If she choses her over Cait, she'd be doing it for Powder, not for Jinx.

It's a weird, fucked up choice to be given... But people by and large misunderstand Jinx and who she is and says she is, throughout the show. I think Silco is the only one who really understands. In that one moment where she takes the gag off, the first thing he does is to scream at Vi to stop dead-naming Jinx.

I think, with his own maturity and experience, he understands that it's important for Jinx to be a "new person". It happened to him too, though without the need for a new name. He repeatedly encourages her to let "Powder die", and the show gets out of its way to prove to us that it works well for her (she happily works to create Fishbones basically overnight, I mean, wow), and her mental state immediately deteriorates as she sees Sevika was right and Vi is alive (and with Cait).

Jinx is at her most unstable and miserable when she's being "torn" by Powder, and hence recalls Vi's abandonment.

Where the hell am I going with this? (backreads) Ah, yes.

We tend to take away a lot of agency from Jinx because of her blatant mental illness, but if you take her at her word and listen to her, she TELLS us that Powder is dead, and she wants to be known, and RESPECTED as Jinx.

Vi never does that, nor does she accept or understand that Silco is someone meaningful to her. She's told by Sevika, by Jinx herself, by Ekko, by Silco... And Vi never, ever accepts it. Because she can't, imo, not out of some mean-spirited, thought out decision.

To be fair to her, it's hard to read the room correctly when Silco is tied and gagged across the same sordid table... (Though I guess it's also a hint. If Jinx will tie up Vi to a chair, her doing it to Silco too isn't a particular indication that she doesn't care for him.)

But I feel like Jinx lacks the will to drive that point home. No matter what she does, Vi refuses to accept her as she is. Vi misreads the room. Vi wants Powder, not Jinx, Silco's daughter.

So when Jinx finally breaks and makes her choice, Vi's "understanding" doesn't matter so much. What difference would it even make? Jinx says her piece, and it sounds almost like it's more to herself, or addressed to the silent Vi that was with her all this time. It reads like a self-actualisation, or an admission of the ugly truth that she's been keeping at bay all this time.

Vi can't love her as she is, she's too different... Correcting her to explain she deeply cared about Silco and resents her sister's misunderstanding would not make Vi love her more.

So instead she goes and blows up the Council.

Those are just my thoughts though, as demanded :p

[themirokai]

A few days ago I saw this fantastic comic by @pherre and the idea of Powder and Viktor being science buddies got very stuck in my head and I couldn’t get it unstuck until I wrote this down. Check out the comic if you haven’t already, then enjoy…

Powder and Viktor meet at the water plant (the steel oasis) and discover their mutual love of tinkering.

Vi comes along once, decides Viktor is harmless, and doesn’t bother Powder about it when she continues to meet up with him.

The events of Act 1 happen as in the show.

Sky keeps in touch with Undercity friends and family, and hears about what happens. “Hey Viktor, don’t you hang out with Powder? Vander’s kid?” She tells him what she knows of what happened, including that Powder is with Silco now.

Viktor is still in the early days of working with Jayce and it’s incredibly exciting and very hard to tear himself away from his lab but he thinks about that scrawny little kid who never quite fit in and has now lost her whole family. So one night he puts on some Undercity clothes and goes down there. Even though he never had close friends, people know him and respect him. He has no trouble getting someone to tell him where Silco is holed up.

We’re a few days after the end of Act 1 now. Silco’s headquarters has been blown up, all of his fighters are injured or dead, and he suddenly finds himself with a traumatized kid. So when this scientist who made it Topside shows up and says he wants to talk to Powder, Silco decides that this is absolutely not a battle he’s choosing. He lets Viktor and Powder talk.

Powder is scared and grieving but Silco has been kind to her. She’s not physically hurt at all. And Viktor is at a loss. He knows exactly what Silco is about but it’s not like he can take this half feral child to go live with him in his studio apartment at the academy, especially when he’s working 19 hours per day on something that he truly believes will make the world, and the Undercity, a better place. And Powder isn’t asking to go with him. She seems content to stay with Silco. So Viktor gives her a hug and tells her that she can always contact him and he’ll meet her at the water plant in a few days.

They keep meeting up. Silco decides, like Vi did, that Viktor is harmless. They tinker together. They talk. They’re friends. Viktor gets some much needed time away from the lab (which he finds helps him focus and think more creatively when he returns) and Powder gets someone who is not Silco to talk to about her grief and her life.

Powder still becomes Jinx but her friendship with Viktor helps her process her trauma and curb some of her worst impulses.

Viktor knows that the things his friend is bringing to tinker with are bombs. He knows that ultimately she is using these bombs to help Silco take over the Undercity. But ultimately he decides it’s more important to stay in her life than to push her away when he still can’t offer her a viable alternative and she shows no signs of wanting to leave. He tries to get her interested in the tools and useful machines that he brings. He encourages her to make tactical weapons that have a lower chance of harming bystanders, but he throws his energy into Hextech and the vision of a future so bright it will outshine a crime lord.

Viktor is the last person to stop calling her Powder. When she is with Viktor at the steel oasis, chatting and building things, she can almost pretend that she’s going to go home to Vander and Vi after. But eventually that pretending just feels worse. So one day she asks Viktor to call her Jinx. He looks at her sadly, nods once, and never calls her Powder again.

Viktor wants to introduce Jinx to Jayce so that his only two friends know each other. Jinx however has no time for or interest in the Man of Progress.

Over the years, as Viktor’s health starts to deteriorate there are days when he can’t get out of bed and Jayce is either working in the lab or the forge or off being the face of Hextech. Somehow Jinx always knows when Viktor’s sick and alone. She breaks into his apartment to sit on his bed and chat with him while he’s awake or just keep him company while he sleeps.

When Viktor gets a metal back brace, Jinx is the only person he shows. It’s uncomfortable and painful but he’s at the point where he can’t stand without it. She frowns at it and disappears. When he sees her again she has the leather and metal brace that we see in the show. It’s not exactly comfortable but it’s SO much better. The leather is soft and Jinx has included a number of metal fittings that he can use to adjust it as needed to accommodate what is hurting or feels weaker on any given day.

As many people in the notes to the comic suggested, when Viktor is in the hospital, Jinx goes feral. She interrogates the doctors who try to treat him, she stares down anyone else who comes to his room, and when Jayce returns after going to see Mel, she straight up pulls a gun on him. Viktor sort of asks her to stop but he’s very ill … and maybe not that motivated.

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So … that’s what I’ve got. What do you think? I’m never going to write this into a real story, so consider these ideas up for adoption. If you do something with them please let me know!

[lady-tortilla-chip]

what comparisons between azula and jinx?

the only thing I think they have in common is that they were both groomed by their fathers to be weapons

I’ve seen people claim they’re essentially the same character which is….so wrong. (For so so many reasons but honestly the biggest one for me will always be Vi. Jinx always had someone on her side that genuinely loved her. Azula didn’t. And yet the more mentally stable one was AZULA.) I will admit I saw these comparisons when the show first got popular so I could just be remembering them incorrectly.

Also ima argue with ya here anon and say Silco didn’t groom Jinx into being a weapon for him. Do I think he was a fantastic father figure? Absolutely not. But he did genuinely love her and he wasn’t interested in using her. Jinx wanted to be useful and we see that attitude in action when she does things to prove herself (like when she stole the gem) when Silco specifically asked her to step back. (This same attitude was also established earlier on as well so it was fully in character for her.) He concerns himself with her mental state — however he doesn’t understand her or what she really needs (which is HELP) all he does is project his own traumas onto her and tries desperately to convince her that she’s right. That there’s nothing wrong with her which is objectively not true. But none of what he says really comes from a place of selfishness EXCEPT when he lies about Vi.

Azula was though. Ozai saw her as a tool and when he was done with her because she was out showing him, he removed her from his side. Silco NEVER pulls that sort of thing with Jinx and when she kills him he really demonstrates how truly genuine his love for was when he doesn’t get angry, he doesn’t begrudge her, he simply tells her she’s perfect. (I’m also not saying Vi’s love wasn’t any less genuine btw when she slaps the shit out of her for getting the others killed. Because that’s a totally different situation.) Ozai would’ve never said something like that to Azula.

He didn’t love Azula. But Silco absolutely loved Jinx. And the ways they treated them were extremely different because of it.