#when i say i love dean
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Something about the fact that both Dean and Cas think they’ve fucked up too many times to be redeemed, that they aren’t worth saving, and yet they forgive each other.
Something about the fact that both of them, faced with an outside force compelling them to kill the other, pushed past that to save each other’s lives.
Something about Cas dying to save Dean time after time because he can’t stand the thought of seeing Dean dead, not knowing what it does to Dean to see Cas dead, and to feel like the blood is on his hands; about Cas trying to restructure the universe for Dean and Dean just wanting him to stay.
Something about Dean teaching Cas to be more human and then, when he is human, failing to help him and having to live with the regret of that.
Just…something about Cas and Dean and the way that they’re simultaneously doomed and inevitable, always circling around something but never able to land
#on a meta level you could say it’s chuck keeping them apart#on a more meta level chuck is the writers/showrunners#but anyway#rip sam who had to watch this extravagant dance#and all he got out of it was a dead best friend dead brother blurry wife and party city wig#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#spn meta#castiel#cas#deancas#casdean#destiel#destiel meta#dean studies#when i say i love dean#dean winchester character study#dean winchester meta
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Supernatural September - Day 2 | Identity
#spnsept24#destiel#Destiel art#dean Winchester#castiel#spnfanart#wiggleart#this is part of a scene I’ve had in my head for years but never wrote#the scene was post empty rescue and cas had to make a choice about going fully human or angel#and in the scene cas makes the comment to Dean ‘you’d probably hate if it I chose Angel’ or something#not exactly those words but whatever. that prompts Dean to say what I just drew up there#that he loves Cas and Cas is Cas whether he’s human or an angel#and it was all inspired by comments I used to see of people arguing for Angel endgame cas saying he’s always been an angel that’s who he is#that’s his identity etc etc and this show in part is about shedding those predestined roles#and so that argument always bothered me#I’m a human endgame person but I don’t mind angel endgame in some cases but#when the whole argument is that being an angel is who cas is I’m like maaaaaaan shh#wkeljflskdjfkldjvd
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whenever i think abt misha saying he didn't start playing cas as in love with dean until s15 i am like. that man is a Known liar who lies
#looking at those endverse gifs i just reblogged and. thee absolute fondness in cas's eyes when he looks at 2009 dean#like hello that (former) angel is literally in love#also thee fact that he was meant to say 'i LOVE past you' in that scene but they changed it............#but also just. so many scenes over the course of 12 yrs. he was in love !!!#and misha was Aware mr. i-read-destiel-blowjob-fic-after-my-first-episode#he knew what he was doing. for 12 yrs.#vic.txt
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Whenever fanfiction has Dean say he hates Cas’s coat or thinks it's stupid or ugly and he wants to see Cas out of it as soon as possible I simply must disagree. He kept that thing for a whole year full of rank water. He saw Cas back in his usual getup and gotar bonar. Dean loves cartoons. He loves costumes. He loves Cas’s coat.
#he wants to jerk off on it. who said that.#he wants to jerk off on it both on the outside (marking his territory) and on the inside (intimate and defiling.).#he wants to wear the coat and nothing else and jerk off and then give it back to Cas while it's still warm from his body.#idk who said that must have been the wind#this is a passing thought I haven't seen this recently#Dean does ALSO very much enjoy seeing Cas dressed up but he LOVES base Cas who wears the same outfit every day#am i projecting because I always dismiss when cas is described in other clothes and imagine him in the trench coat anyway. yes.#but there is textual evidence that dean likes the coat#also his 'you think it's crappy 🥺' 'eye of the beholder' comment#even if he DID think Cas's coat was lame. which he doesn't!!! he could never say it to him
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how to look at your brother in a platonic and god-honoring way
#'they're just brothers' whats all this#WHATS ALL THIS THEN#if you asked ANYONE who didn't know ab spn#who dean was looking at#approximately 0% would say his brother#and the vast majority would probably say a love interest#what is it like for non wincesties to not see how in love they are when they watch the show?#what kind of peace do they have that i will never know?#how sad must the watching experience be for them without seeing the 15 year love story of sam and dean?#emma rewatches spn#1x13 route 666#spn#wincest#samdean
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hey bro, is it cool if i write and perform a comedy set entirely about our life together that no one else understands just so i can see your beautiful smile
#trobed#troy barnes#abed nadir#community#community nbc#community tv#danny pudi#donald glover#screencaps#s3#jeff winger#this end tag is so special to me#troy already knew all the jokes which werent funny at all and completely sucked because theyre all about living in apt 303#i like to think abed just performs this routine for him when hes sad#this is at the end of the blade ep where troy got upset bc britta called him a loser for being a genuinely nice person#ep before that was pillows and blankets#so#to me this is abed saying hey. dont be sad anymore. smile and laugh instead because i love you#jeff and the dean really dont need to be there. this is all for troy
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one of my favourite aspects of supernatural that you very rarely see in paranormal shows is that sam and dean are already versed in the world they live in. there’s no sudden discovery of ghosts and demons and now they have to learn about them along with the audience; they are born into it and already know all about it. it allows the audience to follow their personal story instead of also trying to figure out this new world and its rules
the first season is full of knowledge we never see them learn; “w*ndigoes are in the minnesota woods or- or northern michigan. i’ve never even heard of one this far west.” […] “great. well then this [his gun] is useless.” (1x02), “you don’t break a curse. you get the hell out of its way.” (1x08), d: “it’s a god. a pagan god, anyway.” […] “the annual cycle of its killings? and the fact that the victims are always a man and a woman. like some kind of fertility right.” […] s: “the last meal. given to sacrificial victims. d: “yeah, i’m thinking a ritual sacrifice to appease some pagan god.” (1x11)
almost every episode in the first season is a monster they’ve faced before that they then explain to the audience in a way that should feel patronising; like it’s the same speech given over and over again but instead, the audience almost feels included in the knowledge. it’s stated with such an innate confidence and comfort in said knowledge that it feels like we already knew it too; “spirits and demons don't have to unlock doors. if they want inside, they just go through the walls.” […] “the claws, the speed that it moves; could be a skinwalker, maybe a black dog.” (1x02), “it's biblical numerology. you know noah's ark, it rained for forty days. the number means death.” (1x04), “no no no, not the reaper, a reaper. there's reaper lore in pretty much every culture on earth, it goes by 100 different names.” […] “you said it yourself that the clock stopped, right? reapers stop time. and you can only see 'em when they're coming at you which is why i could see it and you couldn't.” (1x12)
they already know and, at least in the first season, already have what they need to kill whatever they’re hunting; already know to salt and burn bones for spirits, fire for a w*ndigo, exorcisms for demons, a silver bullet to the heart for shapeshifters. there’s only three times in the entire first season that they run into something new to them; 1x14 when sam gets his first vision that leads him to another psychic, 1x16 when dean calls caleb for help on the sigil he put together and he tells him about daevas, and 1x20 when they find out vampires are real- and they only don’t know that bc john thought they were hunted to extinction and not worth mentioning
(there’s also technically two half instances if you count one of them knowing something the other doesn’t - sam figuring out the tulpa in 1x17 and dean already knowing about the shtriga in 1x18 - but those still rely on sam and dean having prior knowledge)
even when they’re uncertain about facing something, it’s not bc they don’t know what it is; it’s precisely bc they know what it is and acknowledge that it’ll be a difficult hunt (“i don't know, man. this isn't our normal gig. i mean, demons, they don't want anything, just death and destruction for its own sake. this is big. and i wish dad was here.” 1x04)
so much of the tension in paranormal shows typically comes from the main character(s) not knowing what is happening to them/the people around them and having to find out how to resolve it. supernatural is unique in that it operates more like a police procedural. the tension comes from solving the clues and identifying patterns to figure out who (what) the killer is and intercepting before they can take another victim
it’s such a different tone to go for when compared to other shows that came both before, during, and after its run. it sets sam and dean on even footing with each other since they both have the same knowledge going in, and it puts them in a place of authority usually reserved for an outside character
the shows i compare spn to most is charmed, buffy and teen wolf; every main character in those shows are brought into the paranormal world knowing nothing, putting them on the same level as the audience, and they have their mc interact with others already knowledgeable about that world in order to overcome their problem/monster of the week. the audience organically learns about this new world as the characters learn about it. it’s a sound writing strategy that prevents “as we already know”-style exposition but something that complicates it is if your world building isn’t unique or intriguing enough, this slow introduction can become boring
we’ve seen shows like these before; sitting through the same tropes of characters learning to use their powers, struggling with no longer feeling normal/relating to the regular world around them, and not knowing how much they can trust the people already involved in this new world gets repetitive. all three shows eventually reach the same level of comfort with their new world that spn starts with but if the characters aren’t enough to draw you in, you can end up dropping it before they reach that point (and often, before the overarching plot can really kick in and evolve the show beyond the villain of the week format)
it’s the superhero origin movie in tv format; dragged out and overplayed. dropping the audience into an established world of course comes with its own problems but you also have the benefit of pre-existing established character dynamics that let the audience slot in like they’ve always been there instead of just getting to know all the characters while the characters also get to know each other
sam and dean already knowing about the supernatural lets the audience immediately get to the core of the story; the conflict between sam and dean, the search for their father, and the mystery of what killed their mother
#i could go on forever theres literally so many examples#dean figuring the ‘two dark doubles’ is a shapeshifter sam figuring out the changing ghost is a tulpa#also peak how many of these examples come from dean despite them pushing so hard for sam to be the one knowing hunting theory#this format is why i cant stand watching the first season of charmed despite loving it so much#i just cant be bothered watching them have the same struggle ive seen a hundred times play out again#different genre but sons of anarchy does this well too; all the characters are already in the club life and already have inner conflict#spn having such a natural introduction makes me so glad they didnt go with the original plan of sam not knowing about hunting#that wouldve been Painful#watching spn so young has really shaped my view of media bc i legit cant stand things with a learning curve#give me an established world damnit#lord of the rings never stops to explain what a dwarf is! you just go with it! and it rules!#dean is just as theoretical and lore savvy as sam and id go as far to say he actually knows more#instead of trying to do this bullshit brains v brawn divide they shouldve done new tech vs analogue#sams laptop is famous and he also knows how to hack thing where the second dean doesnt know something he defaults to books#have dean be the one where if its written down he can find it almost like a proto bobby#they even kind of support that by him being the one to find the phoenix in s6 when they go through all their books#but this was 2005 and characters could only be so conplex and theyd already decided dean needed to be the hot one and sams the nerd one#side note how many of these metas am i going to write on this rewatch? tbd#side side note included all the quotes and episode numbers makes me feel so academic#coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt#carry on my wayward son#talk meta to me#meta#supernatural meta#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#save post
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“You gave up a whole army just for one guy.”
GOD, IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU THINK?? Like you’re joking! Castiel rebelled against heaven FOR YOU, he killed his brothers and sisters FOR YOU, every single choice he’s made (both good AND BAD) has all been with YOU in mind! And other people have constantly pointed this out to you!! “The moment Castiel laid a hand on you in hell he was lost” is that ringing any bells?? Castiel HIMSELF pointed out that the entire reason he’s considered an outcast angel is because of YOU!! And once again you watch him choose YOU over EVERYONE ELSE AND YOU STILL THINK ITS JUST BECAUSE HE’S SELFLESS OR A GOOD GUY??
SHUT. UP. !!!
#Dean Winchester I am going to need you to think critically for a moment#babygirl I’m going to hold your hand when I say this#HE IS IN LOVE WITH YOU!#and everyone knows it!!#except you apparently#supernatural#destiel#castiel#dean winchester#spn#deancas#spn 9x22
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Sam, getting to know Dean in season 1.
#was there even anything he knew about dean. like...#i wonder if it's because dean has changed a lot during the four years they were apart#or if sam was too young/immature to actually see dean past his exterior before stanford#probably a mix of both. but it's so interesting because the idea he had of him doesn't have anything to do with the actual dean!!#sam winchester#dean winchester#supernatural#spn season 1#corespnedit#.anna#also psst this is why it's dumb to call dean a creep just because sam once implied that dean would sleep with minors#like sam at times tends to see him as worse than he is!#like when he can't believe dean actually loved cassie or cares about saving a kid's life#so - don't trust too much what he says about him#in particular because all of the women dean actually slept with were roughly the same age as him or older#(aside from the fact that sam was probably joking that time)
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Dean, to every dog after Sam is done petting them: He does that to every dog he sees. You're not fucking special so don't get cocky.
The dogs: Arf arf arf 🐶 [What the fuck is his problem 🤨🤨🤨???]
#Dean is so jealous in canon so I think he would be like those boyfriends who feel threatened by their partners' pets#and also because of how pissed he is when he talks about Sam's dog in s8#Dean whispering: Would you love me more if I was a dog?#Sam: What did you say?#Dean: NOTHINGDOGSARESTUPIDFUCKYOU#wincest#samdean#weirdcest#gencest#dean jealous winchester#dean weirdo winchester
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Listen, Billie said “You wanna die.”
Not “you’re okay with dying,” not “you’ll face death,” not “you’re willing to sacrifice your life for these people to find peace,” but “you wanna die.” And Dean doesn’t argue with it, because she’s right.
It’s on the level for me of Famine telling Dean he’s empty in terms of “Oh I could pick this apart and draw so much about him out of it” and I just,, really love Dean Winchester
#i didn’t watch spn for years but even before i started i knew enough that i assumed i would be a dean girlie and i was so right#i didn’t choose this life#it forced me to live it#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#spn meta#deancas#casdean#destiel meta#dean meta#when i say i love dean#i also hate him#hes so dumb#and also so messed up#this is actually tragic#but what can you do
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Destiel Pride - Day 5; Cursed or not
#destiel#dean winchester#castiel#Destiel pride#Destiel art#destiel fanart#spn fanart#spn art#spnfanart#wiggleart#ETA: i jsut realized it's the 5th of a month and it's pride#i'm so sorry lol#the cursed or not line comes in response to cas saying in 7.23 that he’s not good luck#and following the cursed or not line dean asks if he seems like good luck as well#and that got me to thinking about the curses these boys are constantly under be it overarching ones like ‘deans boyfriends#always die some how’ or more literal ones like spells and possessions and what not#but no matter what they always find their way back to each other like when Dean was grieving so hard in#season 13 that Jack who barely had consciousness that that point managed to break through the empty and wake cas up#so I wanted to draw 1518 which is the last curse that I know will be fixed in the continuation#don’t @ me on that it’s a major plot thread that needs addressing lol#and it can almost seem like love is a curse in this show but they’d rather have that love than not so#…also black goo lol
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What drew them to each other is that they were both willing to do reprehensible things.
Whether it's to save their own skins, to save their families, to carry out a plan... They're naturally fucked up in the same pragmatic way.
But they can BE their full, "flawed, petty evil creatures" in full light of the other.
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DUNDUNDUN SAM WAS JUST WAITING FOR HER TO TURN AWAY WHAT A BASTARD
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She should've gotten to KILL him at least once, I think. Just to further make their bond weirder.
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"Don't struggle," she says.
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ALSO.
I like to watch the unraveling futility of their ambitions. Rowena, Crowley, and Sam were all united by wanting status and ambition to help them escape "a rigged game."
"And it took everything from me, everyone I love-- my family."
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BOOM. There it is.
See, Rowena sees the lengths Sam will go, and she actually RESPECTS it.
Their relationship is built on the comfort of understanding WHY they're willing to gut each other AND each other's loved ones. Strong feelings that they try to dissociate themselves from.
They use their smarts and ruthlessness to protect themselves and their loved ones at all costs.
And they both want to change.
"You were never gonna kill him. There was a time you would've. But not now."
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There is such an--an OPENNESS about the bad things they've done, and Sam needs that in his life.
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And in season 15, Rowena knows that Sam wouldn't have been able to kill her at the end there... not unless she guided his hand and helped him.
#sam has tried to shoot dean (gun wasn't loaded)#he tried to shoot crowley with the colt right after crowley handed it to him#he shot emma#he had you sacrifice oskar#that's just the quirks of being sam winchester#this was THE moment for me guys seriously#funeralia is THEEEEE episode i went full hog#and in theory i like eileen but#there's such friend vibes between them like they're trying to give dean a templated mix of john mary dean jody....#but sam pairs SO well with such a posh girly girl who's a loser and so so fucked up it's beautiful#and i think they thought maybe it wouldn't but bela wasn't the same kind of rich girl as rowena tries to be right?#bela wasn't tied to ambition like rowena was... getting power to escape her fear... bela was already doomed#and like sam and rowena just FEELS less templated#and i LOVE eileen and what shosannah says about her at the time time#you see my dilemma#cause sam is the REALER sam when he's wil rowena#spn funeralia
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Sam gets jealous when Dean gives attention to men because he knows that he’s the only one who gets to be Dean’s daddy.
Dean gets angry when Sam gives attention to women because he knows he’s the only one who gets to be Sam’s mommy.
#when I say daddy I don’t mean it in the traditional father sense#when I say mommy I mean it in the hathfrozen sense#love family whatever it is#sam winchester#dean winchester#wincest#weirdcest#codependency#supernatural
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thinking about how in the siren episode the point is that dean craves the perfect version of a little brother who’d submit to him & adore him
and then we also have dean locking sam in the panic room and being willing to let him die there because he thinks sam is a monster (aka no longer the perfect version of dean’s brotherwife). he even admits it in 5.18 (“i have let you rot in there”)
dean doesn’t love sam unconditionally and it’s canon!
#i always see posts saying dean is such a simp and how pathetically in love with sam he is#yes he does obsessively love sam but he by no means is a simp 24/7. the only times he’s a simp is when sam behaves in a way that dean likes#dean winchester#sam winchester#wincest#samdean#spn
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just watched the spn s5 finale i'm gonna jump off a cliff now, everything i own goes to my mutuals, goodbye
#gotta update my cry counter post first tho#this was brutal#but ngl#when cas showed up again & revived bobby i was like ''huh this isn't so bad''#bc for a second i was 100% convinced they'd end this season with dean being completely alone#i'm so happy there's still 2 thirds of this show in front of me#but dare i say#if sam didn't show up again at the end this would've been a pretty good ending??#like heartbreaking & infuriation obv#but this whole episode felt like an END end and i kinda love it#still#SO glad i won't have to wait a year for another season and can just click next episode#baby's first spn watch#spn#supernatural#spn 5x22#dean winchester#sam winchester#castiel#bobby singer
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