#wenclair analysis
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districtsleepsalonetonight · 15 hours ago
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"Sure, besides maybe having someone to share it with." She says this in the long-vowels teasing tone she usually applies to Ajax. At first I think she means herself, and I think she's right. It does feel better now that she's here, and she's the only person I've ever been able to truly say that about. I'm about to muster the courage to put the sentiment into words when she continues. "Thing may have blabbed about your date with Tyler. How did it go?" This is such a hard one-eighty that it takes me a moment to calibrate. It's certainly no longer time for a compliment. I haven't thought about Tyler all night, even when I was coordinating Xavier's arrest with his father. But Enid seems to want to discuss the date. "It was....interrupted," I say. It's the only word that feels honest. Enid's smirk widens. "Maybe it's time to finish it? I heard Tyler is working the late shift..." It would never have occurred to me to do any such thing, but then I think maybe this is what Enid wants from me. Someone to discuss boys with. Dates. All the trappings of adolescent girl friendships I've always avoided like the plague. Maybe this is what she shared with Yoko. The thing that made the other girl the more attractive option when all I could do was fixate on attack patterns and organs in jars. There's more to parse out, of course. Part of me wants to confess that I'd rather stay here...."I'll tell you all about it when I get back," I promise her, and I head out for the Weathervane.
-from the novelisation of Wednesday.
So...
Wednesday notices that Enid is addressing her, while talking about having someone to share things with, in the same tone she uses to address Ajax-which is explicitly described earlier as flirtatious.
From earlier:
"Ajax," Enid says in that flirtatious way people sometimes do. Drawing out the last vowel.
And Wednesday, thinking Enid is talking about herself and Wednesday....agrees, and is about to reciprocate.
And then Enid reveals she was talking about Tyler and Wednesday's date-meaning she was definitely talking about having someone to share things with in a romantic context-and Wednesday reveals she hasn't even thought about Tyler all night.
And even with the knowledge that Enid was definitely talking romantically-Wednesday is disappointed to realise Enid wasn't talking about herself and Wednesday and had been about to reciprocate the sentiment to Enid.
And then Wednesday admits she doesn't even want to go and find Tyler-but she does so because she thinks that this way, she and Enid will have something to talk about, and that their bond will be less likely to end. (It's also made clear she doesn't want Enid to prefer Yoko to her.)
So Wednesday reluctantly goes out to continue the date with Tyler-with the clear implication that if Enid had been talking about herself and Wednesday, she wouldn't have done. She's only going because, in her mind, Enid just made it clear that she sees Wednesday and Tyler as a couple-and because she wants to have something to talk about with Enid in their friendship that Enid actually enjoys talking about, with her thinking that "maybe this is what Enid wants from me". Which kind of has a note of "Maybe this is only what Enid wants from me."
I was going to say it reads like that trope of the main character going on a rebound date when they've been about to confess feelings for their love interest only for a miscommunication to lead them to think the love interest doesn't reciprocate and then realised that's basically exactly what it is.
In the novelization, at least, Wednesday canonically believes Enid is talking in a flirtatious, romantic context to her and is about to reciprocate.
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izukurtus · 1 year ago
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umm, so has no one noticed the undertone in thornhill's words, and that entire conversation?
specifically the line, "and those friendships, often turn into lifelong bonds."
ok, key words here are turn into and lifelong bonds. we know that they're best friends, hence the friendship part. then, the lifelong bond part? the same words that could be used to describe morticia and gomez’s relationship, how they share a lifelong bond like no other. they’re literally connected for life.
then, the turn into part? friendships are not everlasting things, at least from wednesday’s pov. neither is typical teenage love… unless it’s addams’ love, of course. thornhill was there and knew the type of love morticia and gomez had, both in the past when her brother got killed, and presently.
but, i feel like she was also making a play on the multiple tropes and dynamics of wenclair, specifically “they were roommates” (because that’s literally what she’s referencing in that moment). and why would they include the turn into part?
after all, lifelong relationships are usually associated with a romantic context (because that’s the ideal and the “dream” most have). why would she use such words to describe them, if she knows how cold and “heartless” wednesday is, even after meeting enid?
food for thought, guys, food for thought. another thing im really interested in is enid x ajax, and why it wont work out long-term, and how it is so, SO heavily comphet.
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venlo · 2 years ago
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you can't tell me I'm wrong
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altf4d3lete · 6 months ago
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Yknow what maybe Wednesday only saw saving the school as a challenge at first. Maybe she only saw solving the mysteries and murders as a challenge at first. But you CANNOT sit here and lie and say that it didn’t become personal the second Eugene was hurt. You cannot sit here and tell me to my face that she doesn’t view that kid as a little brother. You cannot sit here and tell me that she’d forgive someone for hurting a kid she views as her younger brother when she dropped an entire pack of piranhas into a pool for Pugsley. She’d do ANYTHING for Eugene. And she’d do anything for Enid. She’d do anything for Pugsley. She’d do anything for Thing. Those four are her weaknesses. They make her feel emotions. They make her open up. She won’t hesitate to pursue her form of justice when it comes to them, whatever it may be.
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theg4ycousin · 2 years ago
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No, but can we talk about how when Enid asks the rest of the Nightshades where Wednesday is after she comes back from the woods and no one knows what to answer to her, and they all look away, she immediately looks at them with pure disgust.
Like, Enid's look is completely heartbroken for a couple of seconds, but then she looks at all of them with hatred, as if she was trying to ask how could they leave Wednesday alone?!
Here, let me show you ->
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First, she steps away from Ajax and just there is so much incredulity and disgust in her eyes.
And then she just looks away for a second, and you can see the hope in her eyes as if she just wishes for Wednesday to somehow appeared through the gates.
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And when she actually sees Wednesday, she first steps closer in disbelief, afraid that her mind is playing her tricks or something, but then - once she confirms that it is indeed Wednesday - you can feel the happiness and complete relief irradiating from her.
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And don't even make me talk about the hug and the reaction from everyone in the back.
Like the sheer happiness and love that Enid and Wednesday show in that scene, and everyone in the back just smiling softly at the both of them and not really making eye contact, as if feeling they are intruding in a private moment (and let's face it, they are. Wednesday would never let her guard down in front of the whole school if it wasn't for the emotional and physical trauma she just went through).
Here, let me show you what I mean again ->
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Like, see in the back how Yoko and Xavier are smiling softly and looking at the ground, and Ajax is also smiling.
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And Divina's soft smile and Kent's grin.
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And here, Yoko smiling happily because Enid is her best friend, and she loves her, and she loves seeing her friend happy. But also Ajax looking at who I think is Xavier, like smiling softly but also a little bit resigned? As if he knew that Enid and his relationship is not going to last much longer.
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AND WEDNESDAY CLOSING HER EYES AND BREATHING DEEPLY WHEN SHE HUGS ENID, AND ENID MAKING THE HUG TIGHTER AND ALSO CLOSING HER EYES AND SIGHING.
The point of this post is to show that Emma Meyers, Jenna Ortega and the whole cast are amazing actors, and they know what they are doing.
And also --- Wenclair endgame.
*Disclaimer -- special thanks to Netflick on Youtube for providing the scene :)
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eattherichplease · 2 years ago
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Episode 2x10 of the Addams Family, "Gómez, the reluctant lover" is absolutely BONKERS. It's so kinky. There is consensual cuckoldry in this episode, out in the open. There is light BDSM at the end. It's amazing.
So there's this lady that falls in love with Gómez, right? One of Pugsley's teachers in fact. And she thinks is reciprocated!
So Gómez wants to tell her no. He has to let her down gently...
But Morticia won't let him!!!
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She wants him to... well, you know. She asks Gómez to do it. Just do it, go on, be a man! Do it!
Gómez doesn't want to. That would be cheating!
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But Morticia is very persuasive.
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!!!!!
And Gómez is a very good boy, so he says he'll do it.
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"I'll fuck that woman silly, Tish. For you"
But never forget: Morticia is the boss here. She sets the rules and the limits:
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I'M HOLLERING.
So Gómez goes and does the deed with this poor lady that's in love with him or whatever.
But he goes crazy! He's too horny! He doesn't OBEY! Morticia says stop and he doesn't stop! Bad boy!!
So they have a chat afterwards... And it's just bonkers. I wish I knew how to make gifs. Screenshots for one of the horniest things I've seen in black and white:
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I mean.
They aired this in the 60s. I'm speechless. And a little hot tbh.
Let's bring this energy back to the Addams Family, please.
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wednesdayorwhatever · 2 years ago
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sooo I noticed something
There are these obvious parallels between Wednesday and Enid on the one hand and Morticia and Weems on the other hand in terms of being roommates in Ophelia Hall, being captain and co-pilot at the Poe Cup, their general aesthetics (Morticia + Wednesday = dark hair, dark clothes, dark everything / Weems + Enid = blonde hair, bright clothes) etc.
I think these parallels are also emphasized by scenery:
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so at first you would think: there is supposed to be a parallel between Wednesday and Morticia and then Enid could be compared to Weems in some ways
BUT if you think about it and analyze the characters more deeply you could say that in some ways Wednesday has more in common with Weems than with Morticia, whereas Enid has more in common with Morticia than with Weems.
Here are some things I noticed while thinking about this:
#1 their roles at the Poe Cup
This is what initially made me think more closely about the parallels between the four of them: Weems tells Wednesday that the last time Ophelia Hall won the Poe Cup, Morticia Addams captained the team - just like Enid captains the team now. Weems was Morticia’s co-pilot - just like Wednesday is Enid’s co-pilot. This made me wonder: Why didn’t they make the parallels between Wednesday and Morticia more obvious by just having Wednesday be the captain and Enid the co-pilot? The reason for Wednesday being the co-pilot is Yoko not being able to participate in the Poe Cup but instead of making Yoko the original captain and Enid the co-pilot, having Yoko be unable to participate and then making Wednesday the captain and Enid the co-pilot, the writers decided to have it the other way around. Enid now has the position that Morticia used to have and Wednesday has the position that Weems used to have. Which doesn’t put Wednesday in her mother’s position - but in Weems’s position. And Enid in Morticia’s position.
#2 their character traits
Like Wednesday Morticia has a dark aesthetic and is drawn to dark and morbid things. There are obvious parallels. But if you look at their personalities more closely you see a lot of differences. While Wednesday never expresses emotions, doesn’t show any interest in romance and is very aloof in general, Morticia is very likable, very passionate and romantic (in her own unique dark and morbid way of course) and also sentimental and kind of soft. Wednesday doesn’t care about others at all and is a loner whereas Morticia’s love for her husband is unmatched and her family is very important to her. Enid, though not matching the Addams’ aesthetic at all, seems to have more in common with Morticia personality-wise than Wednesday has in common with her mother. Enid is engaging and passionate, enthusiastic and has a high interest in romance. She is also likable and dedicated and emotional, in a way like Morticia. I have always thought, even before Tim Burton’s “Wednesday”, that Morticia Addams could in some ways be described as having a “bright” personality as opposed to her dark appearance. She draws others in, she’s devoted and dedicated, happy and positive. Enid is like that too while Wednesday is completely different. Morticia herself talks about Wednesday’s and her opposing dispositions when talking to Wednesday about her psychic abilities - Morticia's disposition being positive (which causes her visions to be more positive and which makes her a Dove) while Wednesday’s disposition being darker on the other hand (which causes her visions to be more potent and powerful and which makes her a Raven). I think it is very obvious that Enid’s disposition is positive too, just like Morticia’s.
And then there’s Weems. Obviously, Weems and Wednesday don’t have the exact same personality. On the outside, Weems is always nice and friendly, she’s polite and civil. But there is also a different side to her. She doesn’t show it to others but she does have a rather dark and angry side that she is hiding. She is very bitter about her past and seems to hold on to a lot of jealousy towards Morticia. She can also get very angry and harsh. And she is serious, unlike Morticia, who is soft and angelic. Because of her bitterness and her seriousness and the fact that she hides these negative feelings from others (when she confesses to Thornhill that her own Rave’N was only disappointing she then quickly changes the topic and doesn’t want the conversation to get more personal) and especially the throwing-a-yearbook-page-into-the-fire-scene with that evil and hateful expression on her face, I would describe her disposition as rather dark as well. Weems is nice and a good person but she is not light-hearted and carefree, there is a certain severeness to her. Therefore a dark disposition - just like Wednesday. And when you think about it, she is a loner, too. She is surrounded by people but no one is even remotely close to her - just like Wednesday.
#3 their lives at Nevermore
Enid is very passionate about Nevermore and the whole school spirit thing, participates in a lot of school activities, is captain of the Ophelia Hall team at the Poe Cup etc. Morticia was like that too. She was captain of the fencing team, Queen of the Dark Prom and President of the Séance Society (what a legend) and Wednesday says that Nevermore “was the perfect school” for her mother. Just like Nevermore is the perfect school for Enid! Both Enid and Morticia are popular and successful and show a high level of identification with the school.
By the end of the first season Wednesday seems to enjoy being at Nevermore. But she did NOT (and I like that fact and love that the writers did it that way) and will probably never follow her mother’s footsteps. Wednesday has no interest in networking and being popular and taking part in group activities. And while it is nice that she found people she cares about (mostly Enid and Eugene), she will not be like her captain-and-queen-and-president-of-everything mother and prefers to be an outsider, even at a school for outsiders.
I think it is very likely that Weems was an outsider when she was a student at Nevermore too, just like Wednesday. We know that she was always jealous of Morticia because Morticia was popular. When Morticia says that they had good times at Nevermore, Weems basically says “speak for yourself”, implying that her time at Nevermore wasn’t that great, and at the Rave’N she tells Thornhill that all she remembers about her own Rave’N is “disappointment”. The negative feelings she has about her time as a student at Nevermore go as far as to RIP OUT a page of her old yearbook and dramatically throw it into the fire. So like Wednesday she probably didn’t take part in many school acitivities that she was excited about, she wasn’t very popular and maybe even an outsider. I think this is a parallel between Wednesday and Weems - though, of course, Wednesday WANTS it that way while Weems was and still is bitter about it...
#4 Wednesday and Weems being in Morticia’s shadow
There is this huge parallel between Wednesday and Weems about being in Morticia’s shadow and trying to find their own path without Morticia’s ‘legacy’ overshadowing their every move. Wednesday says multiple times that she has no interest in following in Morticia’s footsteps because she couldn’t live up to the expectations based on her mother's legacy anyway. Just like Weems could never compete with Morticia. I especially noticed one scene where Wednesday expresses very strongly that she doesn’t want to be compared to her mother all the time and that she has the need to be her own person. In this scene Weems compares Wednesday to Morticia and when Wednesday tells her that she and her mother are two different people, Weems seems to think about Wednesday’s words for a moment. I don’t know whether I interpret too much into this but I think that Weems’s face shows that she realizes that she is very familiar with the need to be “independent” from Morticia Addams. She knows very well how it is to be in Morticia’s shadow and I think it is in that moment that she realizes that Wednesday feels the same way about Morticia as she does. It was not easy for Weems and it is not easy for Wednesday to be “linked” to Morticia’s legacy at Nevermore because she was perfect - she was popular, well-liked, happy, successful, dedicated and beautiful. So in a way, Wednesday’s experience at Nevermore is similar to Weems’s experience: always being in Morticia’s shadow. And I think that’s what Weems realizes:
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Also, Wednesday tells her mother: “I’m not you, mother. I will never fall in love or be a housewife or have a family.” So... she’ll be like Weems then? She’ll choose a whole different path than her mother just like Weems chose a whole different path than Morticia did.
To sum it all up: there is a lot to unpack. Which makes the show so great. And I think about the Wednesday-Weems and Morticia-Enid parallels constantly.
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thewillowtree3 · 9 months ago
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Wenclair
Y’all, I have read…SOO much Wenclair fanfiction lol. I’ve read like at least 30-31% of all the fic, last I calculated ;_;. I don’t remember being THIS obsessed with a ship for a while but I kinda get why lol.
I first heard about the show on Twitter like 6 days after it came out. I wasn’t gonna watch it, but then I saw posts about it and I was like “OMG THEYRE SOO FUCKING CUTE LOOL.” And I kinda get why?
I’ve never really been into enemies-to-lovers but I TOTALLY GET IT NOW LOOL. It’s the eventual understanding of one another, the breaking down of barriers to really understand one another, and I think that’s SOO fucking sweet lol. And I’ve never really been into the goth-sunshine thing either, but I GET IT. I get why opposites attract and it’s adorable to see them overcome it.
But I think why I love Wenclair SOO MUCH is because of how ADORABLE they are. I think it’s SOO fucking adorable how one is a goth, and the other is a sunshine and they have to work together. I think it’s SOO adorable that they HAVE to compromise and really find out what they love about each other. I think it’s SOO adorable that they grow to love each other, that the girl who was literally born to love, but fucking hates it, is with a girl who LOVES SOO MUCH, but DESPERATELY needs some of her own and doesn’t have it. It’s a story of a girl who was born to love, but hates it, and a girl who loves to love, but doesn’t have it. They both provide what the other needs- love and understanding.
And I LOVEE that they have to make it work. I haven’t read many ships where they HAVE to make it work- where they’re almost complete opposites where it’s almost impossible for them to get song. But they DO. They DO get along. They have to make it work, but they DO. And it’s SOO ADORABLE when they do lol.
I LOVE that they create something new out of their friendship- a relationship where Wednesday is softer and Enid is more understanding. It’s achingly adorable how they have to change SOO much to adapt to the other, but it’s SOO cute because they WANT to make that change.
Wednesday wants to understand Enid, so she becomes kinder, softer. She tries to understand her through all the ins-and-outs, all the color, the music. And Enid wants to accept Wednesday. She has to look past all the darkness and gore and find the hidden, sweet soft center inside.
And it’s ADORABLE because they try SOO hard. They try SOO FUCKING HARD to really find the things they adore about the other, and maybe it’s hard at first, but it becomes easier after time. It’s ADORABLE to see them trying SOO fucking hard and making SOO much effort to love one another, and it’s worth it :’)
Also the confession scenes AHH!! THEYRE SOO FUCKING ADORABLE LOOL AHH!! THEYRE SOO FUCKING CUTE!!! I’ve read SOOO many fics in which Wednesday confesses and it’s SOO FUCKING CUTE LOOL!! She says the most, all these flowery poetic beautiful things and I can’t imagine anyone else but her saying them. Like I can’t IMAGINE ANY OTHER SHIP I READ to say something so flowery and dramatic and poetic.
Wednesday Addams is such a SPECIFIC character to write for. You have to get her EXACT tone to write down- you have to write her as morbid, as serious, cold, cutting, sarcastic, and there’s a very specific way she acts and it’s honestly really hard. If you veer off course, I feel like it’s really easy to make her OOC lol. And that’s why the confession scenes hit so hard!! Because she’s this way, it only makes sense if SHE’S the only character to confess this way hehe.
So yeah- my thoughts on Wenclair and why I’m so obsessed with them. It’s 2:16 AM LOOL!! 🤣🤣
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beansthebylershipper · 2 years ago
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Wednesday ship analysis
Wednesday x Edid
This is by far the most popular ship in the Wednesday fandom, and although I think that Wednesday and Edid would be cute together, I don’t see that much chemistry. The best friends to lovers/gothy girl x pinky golden retriever/ roommates trope is adorable and I adore all the fanart of them, but i think that they would be better off as friends.
Wednesday x Tyler
Honestly I didn’t like them together even before Tyler was revealed as the Hyde. I didn’t see much chemistry, and the little feelings that Wednesday had for him I viewed as comphet, and I never really liked Tyler that much anyways.
Wednesday x Xavier
I like this one more than Tyler and Wednesday, but I still feel like the feelings are one sided. I think that their friendship is awesome, but I don’t want them together romantically.
Wednesday x Rowan
Apparently this is a thing??? I don’t see the chemistry here. Ya’ll really just be shipping Wednesday with literally any character in the show. rowan literally tried to kill her.
Wednesday x Eugene
The worst Wednesday ship imo. Wednesday canonically said that Eugene reminds her of her brother. Their friendship is everything tho.
Wednesday x Bianca
Honestly I think this one is adorable and super underrated. The way Bianca opens up to Wednesday at the Rave’N? Adorable. Honestly I’m surprised this ship isn’t getting the hype it deserves, plus enemies to lovers let’s goooo
Aroace Wednesday
I feel like this is plausible, but I feel like people have a problem with head canoning every cold and emotionless characters as aroace and I think it’s becoming a bit of a stereotype (don’t come at me for this)
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touchoffleece · 2 years ago
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I guess this is technically an Anti Wyler ship post, but about the Addams and their values:
I've seen some people say "Wednesday would date or be ok with Tyler because she herself performed autopsies, tortured her younger brother Pugsley", and other macabre things referenced or depicted in past Addams Family shows, and it strikes me as ironic and worrying that these people are misinterpreting what The Addams Family Show and characters countered in pop culture/society. Just because these characters like the dark, unexpected stuff, doesn't mean they are ok with murder, or that the Addams lack morals. They have them, they just don't follow conventional means or thought processes.
'They're creepy and they're kooky Mysterious and spooky They're all together ooky The Addams family...' 'Neat Sweet Petite...' 'Strange Deranged The Addams family'
Even counting the final verse of the theme song, nothing there says anything about actually being what they appear. Society views them as "Strange" or "Deranged", they may seem "spooky" to visitors (people unused to them), but they aren't as first impressions would imply, as the "Neat, sweet, Petite" line reminds us.
I think a part of this comes from the show also not fully being like the past adaptations where The Addams (despite contrasting conventional societal norms of what we think a "loving" family should look like) at their core were a loving goofy family, and challenged and disproved the conventional nuclear family. These type of people miss the point of who the Addams were, and that they were and are suppose to be the rep for the people labeled "oddballs/freaks" of society. Just because they are different doesn't mean they are pro murdering innocent people, and to say Wednesday would be ok with murder (when even despite that lacking feel of satire towards the conventional from this adaptation of the Addams the show itself has Wednesday working to stop and solve these murders all the while guided by a spirit called Goodie) makes me chuckle in disbelief. I think part of why Enid and Wednesday together drew so many people is that it captures and reminds us of that unconventional love, that quirky love, we got from the past adaptations when we visited the Addams Media, but that is detracting from my "Wednesday Addams is not ok with murder, nor is her family" rant.
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trobeds · 2 years ago
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tyler galpin u little red flag of a bitch
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hey hey hey what the fuck???? and the thing is we know if wednesday really wanted to she would sneak tf out to wherever but she doesnt want to. her instinctive reaction to tylers date idea is NO. she has things to do and places to be and she literally does not care. she literally only schedules a "date" with him in the prev episode because she needed him to drive her and it was thing who asked tyler to the dance for her. she did not want to be there.
get the memo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wednesday!! addams!!! does!!!! not!!!!! CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also the red flags?? tyler when she says she has things to do respect that. like 2 seconds ago she was telling u she couldnt be around u bcs of ur dad when we know for a fact wednesday doesnt care about rules if she wants something. imo wednesdays reaction to tyler sitting next to her and still giving a fuck about her was triggered two things: a) the enid debacle because now she was supposed to "enjoy her solitude" and she couldnt because she liked having a (girl)friend. whether she admitted it or not. but she tried to w things like pushing tyler away and denying enids impact on her. b) she was guilty for putting them in danger, and i do think she cares about tyler somewhat as of now. just not romantically, and shes pushing him away because she doesnt like the guilt of putting him (and enid) in danger
just my thoughts tho :D
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captainnightflare · 1 year ago
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Character Dive of Wednesday Addams, The conflict of Purposeful Miscommunication
So I had a college assignment about conflict and the questions ranged from the problem to the resolve. I choose the character Wednesday Addams as the subject of this because quite frankly she was the first to come to mind. If you guys would like to discuss this further I'm more than happy to (I literally rewatched Wednesday for the 4th time for this assignment to make sure I covered my bases :) please enjoy) P.s. I also just wanted to write about Wenclair :3
What is one example of a conflict situation you have seen in films, television shows, or books?    I live by the old saying, ninety percent of problems are caused or indirectly caused by miscommunication. There is so much truth to that statement. One of my favorite conflicting scenes in media came from the Netflix show Wednesday. The show follows Wednesday Addams, from the Addams Family, as she navigates through her journey of murder mysteries happening around the school and newly discovered abilities.     Wednesday is an interesting character to say the least, she’s portrayed as this very stoic and standoffish girl. Deeming emotions as nothing but a liability. While we follow the strange murders of a monster, we see Wednesday get increasingly driven to solve who is behind them. She’s stubborn and prideful, not wanting to let anyone have a one up on her.     Where this all comes to a head and where a lot of her inner conflict begins is when she tricks her roommate, Enid, into going to investigate a house that might have some clues. Both girls get ambushed by the monster while investigating, nearly getting killed. Obviously, Enid is angry by the events. Sparking an argument between the two, Wednesday not seeing the problem as they both made it out alive, causes Enid to snap at her. Telling her that she has tried so hard to be her friend, support her, stick up for her, and be there for her when she needed someone, but Wednesday is never going to understand that. So, Enid leaves, telling Wednesday that if she wants to be alone so badly, she can be alone.    
How could you apply restorative practices in the situation?    Luckly for Wednesday she does begin to see her mistakes, even if she is very reluctant about it in the beginning. Enid, luckily being the more emotionally inclined girl that she is, does go out of her way to still check on Wednesday. Knowing that the stoic girl tends to sulk in her solitude, more so now a days with that monster coming around. Although both are still angered with one another they we can see that being away from each other is getting to them.     The girls up to this point have built a friendship between them, a trust that quite frankly Wednesday isn’t used to. That’s why it takes her almost losing another person close to her to realize that she needs people in her life. She cries, something she hasn’t done for years because that fear became so real then. She does care about the people in her life, she is just very reluctant to let them in. At one point the girls do resolve their issues, Enid taking the first step after hearing of the unfortunate events. She moves back in with Wednesday and the two talk about their differences as individuals, contrasting each other but do accept one another as friends. Slowly taking down those invisible barriers, one duct tape at a time.        
How could being vulnerable, having an open mind, and considering others help with navigating the conflict identified in the situation?    In this instance we had a case of purposeful miscommunication, which is equally if not arguably worse than accidental miscommunication. The root of the problem though comes from a seed of mistrust in people that the person of target had no fault in. And that is just life sometimes, we carry bad experiences with us into new stages of our lives and hurt the people that try to help us. Having the chance to be vulnerable though and open to new ideas of repair with the right set of people could be a solution for the miscommunication.     This idea does tie back to opening that wound of mistrust, of being honest with the feelings that were buried so deep. It is hard for some people to achieve these steps, but they just have to see that there are people out there willing to take that extra for them. Whether that stems from respect or love, those people are going to be there for them, no matter what mistakes they make, no matter the type of person they are. But you have to meet halfway. Compromise, and respect one another’s individuality for we each have our own strengths in different categories of life.      
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altf4d3lete · 9 months ago
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So are we gonna talk about how wenclair also makes the most sense in terms of Wednesday’s morals?
Wednesday is shown to be someone who cares greatly about outcasts and about their place in the world. She nearly sacrifices herself to fight Joseph Crackstone and save the school, she seems to be upset at the notion of being the reason people at the school are hurt. She’s very clearly enraged by the way Goody is treated and by the outcasts being executed in the barn.
Tyler: Tyler was raised with a very negative view on outcasts, and that was only fueled by Thornhill. He already hated them before Thornhill even came along, and now he hates them even more, to the point of willingly going along with a genocide plot. While we don’t know his true intentions, as of now they don’t make much sense together, given that Wednesday seems to hold the treatment of outcasts fairly high on her list of things she’s upset about.
Xavier: I have a feeling that because Xavier is a psychic and his father is rich/famous, he doesn’t have to worry about things that other outcasts have to worry about. Maybe this is just a writer thing, because I find it weird he wouldn’t be more fired up about it given that he was literally hatecrimed, but when Wednesday opens up to him about what she saw and is clearly upset about it, his response is essentially “so?”. He very clearly doesn’t care about things like the unfair treatment of outcasts unless it directly affects him.
Enid: Then you have Enid. A werewolf. She can’t shift, but she has claws that make it hard for her to visually hide that she’s an outcast. She’s one of the outcasts directly affected by the fact that she can’t hide who she is, one of the most likely to be hunted and/or hatecrimed as well, since werewolves would be viewed as violent creatures (probably why they have the Lupin cages). She’s more similar to Wednesday. Untrusting of normies, likely stemming from a fear of being hatecrimed or the dislike of them knowing that they have hatecrimed people in the past.
In terms of morals and senses of political justice, Enid aligns the most with Wednesday. Of course hate can be unlearned and a sense of justice can be taught, but as the three love interests stand, Enid makes the most sense.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk 🙏
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aliencatcloud · 2 years ago
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OMFG
"Thing said he missed you." "I missed him too."
THEY SAY AS THE CAMERA IS ZOOMED IN ON THEIR FACES LIKE THE CINEMATOGRAPHY UGHHHHHH
THEY LITERALLY GAVE US "Look, Wednesday is talking about herself while using Thing's name to do so-"
HOLD UP
THEY MIKE WHEELER'D HER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
they literally. WAIT NOW I NEED PPL TO PARALLEL WEDNESDAY TO STRANGER THINGS IM GOING INSANE
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mdhwrites · 2 years ago
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Enid’s Character Climax and How it Was Tepid... And How it Could Have Been Better.
SPOILERS FOR WEDNESDAY ON NETFLIX! It’s why I’m honestly less specific on what this is about than I want to be. This is your warning? Okay?
We good? Alrighty then. So first thing that I want to say is that what we got with specifically Enid’s transformation was... Fine. It was functional. But it was either flawed or misguided in a lot of different ways, at least in my opinion and I want to talk about those. If you like it though, that’s fine. It gives the hell yeah moment, allows for speculation on it and more... But I think all of those elements could have been stronger. So I’ll split this up into categories for what I think went wrong and why so below you’ll see in bold, with each also talking about a way that the specific scenario could have been stronger than what we got. I include what we got here btw just because I do need to cover that: What We Got Suspense Character Climax Shipping Bait What We Got So like I said, I actually don’t think what we got was that bad. What happens is that it starts with Enid making out with Ajax (I move it this far back for a reason), her claws come out, they blame it on the moon, Enid claims kissing helps, they get told by Thing that Wednesday is in trouble, they gather help, Enid goes with Thing to specifically find Wednesday, we get an inbetween moment of her realizing she’s wolfing out and then next time we see her is her pouncing on the Hyde to save Wednesday. SO. What does this work out with for Enid? Well... It allows an amount of allegorical ambiguity I don’t like. It’s very reasonable to have an argument saying that her transformation was just coincidence. It was the right night. The show supports it with the times werewolf-hood is framed more as going through puberty rather than being in the closet (two allegories it uses but clash against each other because I could make an entire blog about the mishandling of the werewolf allegory here) and so her time has come. There’s no specific trigger in the woods for it, they blame it on the moon when her claws get a bit feisty during the make out session and it is entirely involuntary. Enid isn’t trying to transform. It just happens. And that’s a large part of why I think this is weak. For what is poised as the season, if not just general character, arc for Enid of dealing with the problem of having not transformed... It says very little. You can infer, but you can do it in multiple directions. This isn’t depth though, it’s breadth. It allows many essays but all of them are lacking bit and real purchasing power because others have good evidence against the argument you may be making. And that sucks. It’s an extremely tepid way to write rather than sticking to your guns which is the only praise I can give the concept of “Lycanthropy Conversion Camp” which as a concept makes no sense for a werewolf to go to other than as a counselor. But before I get to allegory, I also want to talk about this from a narrative standpoint with: Suspense
Hitchcock’s theory of suspense says- Oh god, am I actually quoting this? I feel like I’ve heard it so many times. But it’s important and I will say that from a literal standpoint, the show follows it. The theory that goes that if you blow up a bomb under a table, you get the shock of it for a second then it’s gone. If you tell the audience that there is a bomb under the table and it will go off in five minutes, killing everyone there, you get five minutes of emotion and suspense as the audience hopes that someone will find and stop the bomb, with the emotions ratcheting up with each passing minute. TECHNICALLY, the show follows this almost literally. If Enid had come out of nowhere in werewolf form, it would have had some punch but not a lot. By showing us her transforming on the way there, you let the audience know that Enid is in the forest, capable of helping Wednesday and so the audience can prepare and wait for the moment she does. HOWEVER, unlike the bomb, where it’s a threat you want stopped, this is a savior coming to stop a threat. A threat to the titular character nonetheless. I would imagine a lot of people got excited but weren’t ever worried about Wednesday in part because of this inbetween portion. We KNEW what was going to save her which can actually harm a reveal like Enid’s full werewolf form because, well, it was a guarantee.
So what’s the better option if you want this inbetween moment with Enid? Simple: She WANTS to transform. She recognizes the danger and that she isn’t strong enough to fight it without transforming so you have her running through the forest, muttering to herself about it. Or shouting at Thing that she’s scared but still going to do it (put a pin it for why this matters. It’ll come up in the next section). Both times, you can allow an observant viewer to see minor shifts like her claws being out, slightly sharper teeth, maybe even shifted eyes but nothing to quite confirm that it’s happening.
This shifts the question from “When will Enid get there to save Wednesday?” to “Will Enid transform in time to save Wednesday?” That added uncertainty makes it so that when Enid appears in full werewolf mode, you get a much bigger “FUCK YEAH!” because you had a reason to be worried she might not. Her lack of ability to transform had been brought up as an issue rather than more as a gag if you count the Ajax bit as foreshadowing it. It allows for more meaningful suspense, even from a possibly cynical audience. *raises hand* It also allows it to be more from her. Speaking of:
Character Climax
This is probably the bigger reason why I wanted to make this blog because I would argue it’s the part done worst by the way they did this. In fact, I think focusing on this would have been much better even the shipping angle I’ll talk about next. I value characters over romance though, even in my romance writing, so that’s not real surprising.
How did this drop the ball though? Well... This was a big deal to Enid. Or should have been. The writers aren’t always the most clear. It’s something that makes her have a breakdown in front of Wednesday talking about during the first truly meaningful conversation between the two and it’s not without good reason. If she never transforms, she’s an outcast to outcasts and disowned from her own family. That is... TERRIFYING.
And the only mention of it, kind of, in the final episode is the bit with Ajax. Where it’s played as a joke. And maybe allegory but it’s fuzzy. And yes, she chose that she’d transform when she was ready but like... She isn’t ecstatic to be transforming when it happens, the fact that her wolf side is coming out on its own isn’t something that distracts her from making out, it’s just... There. She gives no response to it.
Worse yet is that it could have played into the rest of her character arc. People, including herself, call her a doormat, even after she stands up to her mom. She is someone who is perpetually more scared than most of the cast. Yet here we have her rushing head first into danger without any comment about it. Now that speaks to her good heart but hear me out: Skip the inbetween phase. She doesn’t know how much danger Wednesday is in after all and so only gets to witness it once the Hyde has Wednesday and Enid shows up. She can’t fight this. Not when she knows this thing is happy to kill and she’s barely willing to harm. It’s bigger, its louder, its stronger and the most capable person she knows is at its mercy.
Wednesday looks over with the Hyde at Enid, looking so small, before telling her to run. That it’s too dangerous. That she can’t do this.
And something in Enid snaps. Running before has worked for her. Being nice and just smiling along? She can do that. What will that get her now though? A dead best friend? A destroyed school? Things worse than she even understands currently?
She could run. Werewolves are fast. They’re strong. Even untransformed. She could maybe even get away and be safe from whatever is coming. She could... But she doesn’t. Instead, she takes a step forward, opens her mouth to say something, but instead an ear splitting howl comes out.
In this moment of finding her courage, in deciding to take a stand for herself and what she cares about, she transforms. In coming to be who she WANTS to be, she transforms. Episode plays out the rest of the way as it does in the show. And I think that would have done her character more justice. For something similar but for the LGBTQ+ theming though: Shipping Bait So this is the one I expect most Wenclair authors, myself included, to take a crack at eventually regardless of what the show did. I’ll also keep this brief because it’s as obvious as it is. Enid shows up, still untrasformed, and Tyler ignores her. Instead, he throws Wednesday to the ground, annoyed at whatever paltry resistance Enid gives, before smacking Enid and getting back to his real target. There, smashed a tree, Enid watches as Tyler closes in on Wednesday for the kill. You don’t really need to go beyond that other than to cut between the two and have the closer Tyler gets to Wednesday, the more wolf features come to Enid until at the last minute she pounces. Her best friend being in danger causes the transformation and she saves Wednesday in the nick of time. You get less suspense time but I say it’s well worth for it being less ambiguous and less easy to just blame the blood moon. Also, Wenclair gets an even bigger push which I’m always for because Enid is the best part of the show and their relationship is precious. In Conclusion I want to reiterate that what we got was fine. There’s still also stuff to be done with Enid and transforming. Can she do it at will? Are the side effects to her now that she’s done it? How does she feel about it? I would argue we should have gotten a little bit of that already but the final episode of season 1 was rushed enough as it was. For being probably THE main supporting character though, the fact that I can offer changes that really wouldn’t have taken a lot more time but helped bring her arc a little bit more neatly to a seasonal close (without losing the questions I started this section with) is kind of shitty. It comes off more as her transformation being used to add more action to the climax than actually being for the benefit of her character and I am ALWAYS going to be against that. Maybe I’m biased though. I do have a werewolf story of my own where the moment of transformation before her love interest meant SO MUCH, as well as the love interest’s reaction to it. It’s a topic I’m somewhat familiar with and proud of so maybe that bias is talking. (Shameless plug for that book which is EXPLICITLY LGBTQ+. No queerbaiting here.) I would hope that I’ve shown that it’s not just bias though. That there’s a reason to why I believe it could have been done better and why I’m disappointed by it not being better. No matter what though, thank you for reading and see you next tale.
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snowangeldotmp3 · 2 years ago
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because i can't escape the brainrot, here's a post comparing wednesday (2022) and wicked (2003) but it's mostly just wenclair and gelphie
(also, tagging @lionydoorin !! hope u enjoy this!)
obviously, the most blatant, in-your-face comparison is when wednesday and enid first become acquainted with one another in the first episode. the song 'what is this feeling' from the wicked musical is when galinda (who will later become glinda) and elphaba meet, and are forced to room with one another. the song is supposed to be funny, a sort of parody of the old musicals from the rodgers and hammerstein days, where, instead of love at first song, it's "loathe" at first sight. (the article "Queer Conventions in the Musical Wicked" is where this analysis comes from, and it's a wonderful analysis!) but ultimately the song lists all of the traits that they hate about each other without really getting to know one another so it's all superficial things. i think this can be used in wednesday and enid's first meeting as well as the fight they have later on. the one where enid leaves to yoko's room. (there's not really a moment here that parallels the two, so this will have to do for both.)
as a brief side tangent (but also still keeping with the theme); it's hard to not see the parallels and comparisons between wednesday addams and elphaba thropp. (enid and glinda share some parallels but not as much as these two) elphaba is a witch, who has incredibly powerful abilities, and she's incredibly blunt, very outspoken about what she's passionate about, which is usually justice. she's awkward, and she's not a very good people person (mostly because people fear her or mock her,) and, funnily enough, elphaba does mention that she has a "vision almost like a prophecy," but this vision of course is about the people of Oz celebrating her death. it's all very reminiscent of wednesday's character as a whole. this is not even mentioning the fact that in the number 'dancing through life,' elphaba goes to the dance, and she has a very...peculiar dance. one that is distinctly her own, and one that her fellow classmates make fun of. glinda, who suddenly has a change of heart, dances with elphaba, not caring if it's not what she's supposed to do. now i know that enid and wednesday didnt share a dance or anything at the Rave'N, but, i can't help but find similarities between elphaba's dance and wednesday's dance that further solidifies their similarities as characters, too.
back to the main point. there's also the obvious visual similarities, enid and wednesday have opposing color schemes as do elphaba and glinda. but i think the main point, or i guess, main part of the musical that i think has the most significant parallels to enid and wednesday is the final duet between elphaba and glinda. just for reference, at this point in the musical, glinda and elphaba have reconciled completely, and elphaba knows that she must take the blame, and she will. she'll take the fall for everything, but before she does, she has to tell glinda how important their friendship was (and is!) to her. the song, 'for good' is a touching song between the two, and phrases like, "you'll be with me, like a handprint on my heart," and, "i do believe i have been changed for the better," and of course, "i have been changed, for good." have an incredibly similar tone to wednesday's comment to enid, "the mark you have left on me is indelible." and even though they didn't spend as much time together as elphaba and glinda, wednesday and enid have both been changed by each other and by the presence and friendship of each other. wednesday even says after her initial comment to enid that, "...I always believed relying on other people to be a sign of weakness. That inevitably, they would lead to disappointment. Turns out I've been the disappointment." wednesday admits that her friendship with enid has completely changed her, and that it's changed the views that she once had about herself. (this does not include the hug that wednesday and enid share at the end of the series. this hug alone shows us that enid's friendship has changed wednesday, and that it is, ultimately, for the better.)
this isn't the best analysis, and if i had properly marked this out it would've probably been better (and longer lol) but the point of this was to at least highlight the parallels to these characters, because it was almost glaringly obvious to me. there are also some moments that i may have missed in this list, so if anyone has anything to add, please feel free to! these are just the moments from the top of my head from both the wednesday show and the wicked musical, but like i said, if i've missed anything or if there's anything anyone would like to add to this, please feel free to!
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