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♥ Fashion King Ominis ♥
Warning: Language & nothing more.
Summary: Ominis getting his revenge on his family in a way that was sensible earned him more than he ever bargained for, but for it, he traded nothing more than his own dark chains to their fate. He wanted to be the best at something, but standing at the top meant a lot to him for good reasons that his family hated the most.
Try as Tom Riddle might, he could NEVER compare to the style mile that his blond uncle walked. Even among the other pureblood families, he was the one that everyone tried to out-dress. From the Malfoys to the Blacks & even the rest of the Gaunts themselves, none ever took the crown from him when it came to fashion. His blindness didn't faze his sense of style either, but instead, enhanced it. What he couldn't see, he could feel & his wand showed him the rest in place of his failed eye sight. The Ministry held him to the highest standards of the magical world in terms of looking good & he took it in a full stride.
Ominis didn't need to be a dark wizard like his family, he needed his freedom & with the Sallows, he gained it. With them, his sense of fashion sharpened & the twins helped him every step of the way as they could. Anne, although sick, still put her best efforts into whatever he enjoyed wearing. Whether it was embroidery or simple stitching, she was happy in helping him. "For everything they've done to him, he is deserving of this chance! Ominis is, truthfully, far too pretty to be sitting at home. At least in this way, I can still help out, even if it's a little at a time." Sebastian was nobody's fool when it came to boots & coats either. He gave his all in this fight with his sister to get Ominis where he wanted to be & everything paid off in the end. Ominis won galleons in fashion shows & even dueling competitions alongside Sebastian as a teammate. "If my best friend is going to have his revenge in his way, then I'll make damn sure he looks as big of a badass as he needs to be. Nobody is taking Ominis down with us backing him... not even his own family."
Although he was still feared due to his family, Ominis was nice to everyone he had to be around, up until somebody said something disrespectful towards one of the ladies. He took up arms for the girls in the fashion shows that were having a hard time with any of the guys & they stayed by his side whenever he was around. The ladies found it funny when they were with Ominis as he broke the hearts of many men by having such a following of women. Jaws dropped, jealousy levels ran high & the other men stood no chance of winning a woman whenever Ominis was around.
Even the married men caught their wives looking at him! Unfortunately, for the married men, Ominis wasn't having their disrespect to their wives in what got said sometimes. He was cold & took no shit from any woman's husband when it came to how they got treated. "Disrespect her & I'll be the last thing you see! Learn to have some bloody damned manners & let her TRY to make you something nice like what I'm wearing! She deserves to try & I know she CAN do it, so stop being a jealous prick about her looking at me." With that line alone, he won the hearts of every female & kid & also shattered the heart of every grown man, married or not, in range. It wasn't often that Ominis raised his voice, but as the most sought after man in the fashion world, he made it clear that the women were to be respected since they took far longer to get ready for a social event than any man.
Of all the Gaunts, Ominis was more than an heir of Slytherin, he was the fashion king of their house & his legacy left quite a lasting impression upon the house. Although the house still held too much darkness within it, he inspired many to dress better at the least, but at best? Some within the house eventually did find that he was right all along about Salazar & dressed better for more than one reason. Eventually, style, manners & love flowed through the house, but it was a slow & painful process.
One lucky soul found one of the last portraits of this proud heir hidden away in a long forgotten shack for what seemed to be no reason. "No way! No bloody way! You're... you're one of the Gaunts." Ominis raised himself up with his long black cane, its silver shining in the sunlight that poured from the dusty windows as he turned towards the warm rays. He hadn't felt that warmth in so long that he'd almost forgotten what it felt like, but it felt good to him. The heat slowly sunk through his black coat, warming him for the first time in years, but at that moment in time... he was ageless... forever sealed in a picture frame. "That I am, although I hope you're not too frightened of me. I'm not as mean as the rest of my family." The young one's eyes finally found the name at the bottom & dusted it off, their jaw dropping as they read it out loud. "Oh my... you're not just any Gaunt. You're Ominis! The legendary fashion king of the entire house of Slytherin!" The blond let out a laugh, not expecting anybody to be so happy to find him.
"Who in their right mind gave me that title? I love it!" The young one that found him was astounded that he had a sense of humor & a fairly fun one at that. "My grandfather & he thinks its funny that his own father couldn't even match up to you." "Seriously? Who is he?" "You'd know the name since it's one of the 28 families. Malfoy, Draco Malfoy to be exact." Ominis turned to the one that had found him with a look of utter shock. "MALFOY?! Oh bloody hell, I was NOT expecting them to put one on me, but it's a far better title that the rest of my family. I'll have to give your grandfather my thanks for that one, and you are?" The young one couldn't have been more than maybe 21 to 23 if he had to take a guess. "Lola, Lola Malfoy, Draco's grand-daughter."
Happy anniversary to Hogwarts Legacy and thanks for creating who is my favorite character✨🐍
#ominis gaunt#hogwarts legacy#slytherin#king of snakes#heir of slytherin#fashion king ominis#he's the most loved fashion king for a reason#we stan this heir for being good in so many ways!#omi is the best heir... change my mind#style mile of slytherin - gaunt
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I promised a while ago I would make a fanfiction rec list for lucemond, so here we go:
Star-crossed by DominaReginald
I have to say this is my all-time favourite lucemond fic. If you like the Lucerys-gets-kidnapped-instead-of-eaten-at-Storm's-End-trope, then this one is already worth a read, but what I love about this story is that it shows how the conflict really impacts lucemond's relationship, which is the focus of the plot. Much happens, of course, but the story focuses on how the war and Aemond's subsequent participation in it impacts his relationship with Lucerys. It's also very interesting how this story handles the marriage pact with the Baratheons. But really, a short summary will not do this master piece justice, so I urge you to go and read it yourself! For anyone who is hesitant due to the major character death warning: It's not the main couple, though the deaths occurring are tragic and happen to beloved characters.
the beast you've made of me by MotherMaidenCrone
I don't think anyone has walked past this amazing and beautiful fic in this fandom, but it still deserves its mention on this list as well. No other story has ever done a Team Neutral approach this well and nuanced. If you wanna see Lucerys girilboss his way through King's Landing politics and beat everyone at the Game of Thrones in a desperate bid to save his family from self-destruction, this is for you!
the tragic evolution of desire by toraophim
So I debated long and hard before I added this on because, boy, does this one make you feel stuff, and a lot of it is not great. It's an amazingly written story, and since I enjoy dark themes, I did like it a lot. Though, and this is important, the warnings are there for a reason, this dove is deader than dead. Also, none of the characters are having a good time here aside from Aegon for a time, which is why you should not read this if you are an Aegon stan. The author really turned him into a monster. If you are like me and enjoy an emotional rollercoaster with a somewhat happy ending, I say proceed with caution ;).
Set fire to the rain by baby345
This is a collection of a few short stories about lucemond. I really enjoy the writing and its variety!
Blood for Blood by GoddessofRoyalty
The way the author puts it in the summary is actually the best way to describe this fic: Aemond is not cruel, but he is also not kind (and Lucerys has both none of and all the power). And that is also how I like their dynamic. The story is told in snippets of their life together before and after the marriage, and the writing is really enjoyable!
all I had to give by monkkeyslut
This one starts out as one-sided love despite Aemond trying really hard, in his own way of course, but it's not just about their relationship but also about dealing with the aftermath of the war and the current unstable position of Lucerys due to the continued absence of an heir. This fanfiction is not only well written and a great ride, but the author also has an interesting take on Alys before we got even got introduced to her in HotD.
Office Lucemond by Avonne
This is a collection of ModernAU!Lucemond fanfiction about lucemond matching each other's freak told through the eyes of their stunned and slightly terrified coworkers and through the eyes of a very unimpressed Vharga.
Borros and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day by lucerysinthesky
This is the funniest lucemond fanfiction I've ever read, which is why it gets a place on this list despite being tragically unfinished, but I have not given up hope quite yet! Maybe one day we'll get the last chapter. Still even unfinished, it is awesome, and it'll make you cry laughing, I promise. The title says it all already, and Borro's does suffer a lot while also having a full character arc and all while trying unsuccessfully not to die.
For now, I'll finish this rec list here, but there are still many more great stories out there that I haven't mentioned. Maybe I'll update it in the future or make another one for the once that I did not include here. For the ones reading this, I wish you a lot of fun reading the stories!
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Hey.
I constantly argue back and forth with TB stans that Jace, Luke and Joffrey aren't legitimised just because Laenor, Corlys and Viserys go along with Rhaenyra’s lie about them being "trueborn". As I'm sure you're aware, in Westeros only a king can legitimise the illegitimate by first declaring their bastardy and then legitimising them afterwards. And TB stans. Just. Don't. Get. It. They also seem to think that the King's word is law in Westeros. They don't understand that this a feudal monarchy where the king and his vassals are reliant upon each other and both must respect the social contract in order for the Westerosi social structures e.g. monarchy to be maintained.
IMO, they fall for the narrative trap of the Targaryen characters. Just because Viserys and Rhaenyra say that the King's word is law doesn't actually make it law. It's only law as long as the king has the ability to enforce it. Therefore, if a king did something insane in the eyes of his noble polity, e.g., try to place his bastards in the line of succession, they'd rebel proving accurately that the King's word is in fact not actually law. Aerys's overthrowing is a great example of this. As is the reign of Daeron II: if his word was law and everyone had to obey him, no one would have joined Daemon Blackfyre's rebellion.
Anyway back to TB stans. I think alot of them don't actually realise how the world works. Even GRRM confirmed the bastardy of Rhaenyra’s 3 son's for goodness sake. Every time they try to deny it using the aforementioned argument it only confuses me. Are they insecure about Rhaenyra having illegitimate children? Is that how far they're para-social relationship with her goes?
They also have another stupid argument that Rhaenyra's kids having her blood means that they can inherit her throne. No no no no no no no no no. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS TB. If it was Westerosi lords with bastard relatives, it would allow them to inherit. You have to be trueborn. It's unfair but these unfair laws are what keeps Westeros from constant civil war. That's the point of inheritance law in the Seven Kingdoms.
Anyway, sorry about the rant. It's just that sometimes when I argue with certain TB stans they don't seem to understand the laws of the world they're fans of. They will bend over backwards to excuse their faves, not understanding that you are allowed to criticise a character you like (& in their case love). I think Rhaenyra is an interesting character - moreso in the book TBH - I just don't get why so many TB stans willfully refuse to understand the way in which the laws of the world she inhabits work. Any thoughts?
Hi anon, it took me forever to get to your ask but you're right! 💚
Not all TB stans share the same views, and there are people in here with whom you can converse intelligently, but I have also seen the discourse you're referring to, and it is very annoying when the stans don't get it.
You put the Westerosi legitimization process very well. If we consider the greater Middle Ages-inspired world-building context that Westeros is based on, it makes sense why bastardy is a stigmatized social issue. Blood "purity," lineage, and legitimacy are important because they are the only way land and titles are bequeathed and inherited.
The King is the only one who can legitimize his own illegitimate children as heirs, but he can do so for other illegitimate children, regardless of whether these are related to him by blood. King Louis IV, for example, legitimized John II Duke of Brabant's son, Jan Cordeken, after a petition John wrote to him thus enabling him to inherit his father's fortune and found the House of Glymes. From Ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome to Enlightenment Europe, there are examples of Kings legitimizing not only their children but also the children of their officials, courtiers, and friends. It was seen as granting a favor to them, and when it came to personal matters, a King might choose to legitimize his children when he ran out of heirs, or in the case of Louis XIV, because he could and wanted to.
In other words, Viserys, who knew of but chose to ignore Rhaenyra's sons' (his grandsons') bastardy, had ample time and opportunity to legitimize them but chose to blind himself to the truth instead. What was that about Alicent calling Viserys "weak" in one of the deleted scenes of S1? Well, "weak" isn't the only word I would use to describe him... also irresponsible, foolish, and inadequate.
Nevertheless, the legitimization process in history was seldom favored by the court, the King's vassals, and the people, and caused quite a stir. As you say, the King's law didn't hold up that much ground compared to the law of tradition and at times the Church. The people didn't care if a King legitimized a child by naming them heir... the stigma of being born "illegitimate" wasn't washed off that easily, because bastards were seen as devilish, impure, half-breeds, unnatural hybrids, and so forth. So Viserys choosing to ignore the issue face front was bound to be catastrophic, because no matter how he tried to silence the tongues that wagged by threatening to cut them off, the issue of his grandsons' apparent bastardy remained, and THE REALM would not accept any of them on the Iron Throne, for the same reasons.
And Viserys did nothing about it. He could have confronted Rhaenyra when Jace was born and reminded her of the stark reality of the consequences of what she was doing. Not only did he name Rhaenyra (a woman) as his heir, which alone was controversial and unprecedented, but a woman with three illegitimate children, whose existence never even tried to correct or prevent. Viserys alone weakened Rhaenyra's claim with his lack of foresight and counsel.
If TB uphold the "Viserys loved his grandsons and he accepted them as they were" narrative, they are not only deluded but lack media literacy as well, because Viserys DIDN'T CARE if his grandsons were trueborn or not, or if that would plunge the realm to war, the same way he didn't care that he had named Rhaenyra as his successor when the realm, who was so used to having Kings for centuries, knew he had THREE legitimate sons of his own.
So my two cents on the discourse would basically be that those who don't understand the social and political repercussions of Rhaenyra having bastards, not being counseled as to why this is destructive, left on her own to raise them, and having to cope with the consequences of her actions as she realizes that the father she so loved and admired didn't protect or support her at all, are missing out on a much more interesting character in Rhaenyra and a more complex dynamic with her sons, who she now understands are exceptionally vulnerable and potentially threatening to her cause.
This is a far more intriguing reading than anything TB stans are getting at with their "no criticism" ban on Viserys and Rhaenyra.
#this turned out to be an anti viserys post and I think it was about time#thanks for the ask!#dracarys on viserys#anti viserys i targaryen#anti tb stans#hotd#house of the dragon#hotd season 2#hotd s2#team green#the greens#house of the dragon season 2#hotd meta#hotd discourse#greenqueenasks#greenqueenhightower
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So when I said that many green stans lack media literacy, it's crazy how right I was given so many think Aegon is a good father. Again, like? Loving your son because he is an extension of yourself ≠ being a good father. And we see that, as he not only mistakes Jaehaera for being Jaehaerys ( the servants & Helaena react to this ON SCREEN how could you miss it), he doesn't know where Jaehaerys is even educated, Helaena actively tries to keep Aegon AWAY from Jaehaerys, he doesn't spend time with his kids (as shown in S1), he also HAS BASTARD CHILDREN HE WATCHES IN FIGHTING PITS? HUH? Caring only about your heir does not make you a good father. Its almost like 🤔🤔🤔 Viserys did the same thing🤔🤔🤔 he only gave a fuck about his heir 🤔🤔🤔 and everyone thinks he is a bad father because of it 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. He has only gained interest in Jaehaerys because he is having fun with the novelty of ruling (as Tom said and even the other characters in show acknowledge this). He also let's his child fuck around in council room just to be a menace. Actively teaching the kid that it's all g to do whatever the fuck you want cause you're gonna be King one day? Is that NOT what people critiqued Rhaneyra for when she was younger lmao? It's like... how can you get "awww he is such an attentive father" from mistaking your son for your daughter LMAO. Like the framing of all the scenes are setting us up for Helaena's reaction during B+C. Not only is she disassociating and traumatised, but she is also very much aware of the in coming doom they are all about to meet on behalf of Aegon's choices as King. Does anyone recall the fact Phia and Tom state multiple times Aegon doesn't really give that much of a fuck about Helaena, on top of how uncomfortable she is being Queen? She knows Jaehaerys will be primarily influenced by Aegon? Remember how she says "What if he does not wish to be King?" that's her trying to sway Aegon from influencing his own son cause Helaena knows Aegon is a TERRIBLE example. Expanding on that, I kinda view her saving Jaehaera as her saving herself? It's also very possibly Jaehaera and Jaehaerys would have been betrothed. Imagine Helaena thinking her daughter might one day have the same fate as her, because she could not prevent otherwise???
Mfs just see Aegon = good father for 1 known interaction. Instead of Helaena being a good mother by literally spending most of her life raising her children alone only for Aegon to suddenly swoop Jaehaerys away from her and steer him wrong. Then being forced to let her son be murdered while his FATHER is drunk (and from leaks presumably at a brothel with Aemond) I'm SORRY? She gave up Jaehaerys so easily because she A) already had insight into something bad happening, B) also knew they'd kill both of her children either way? Would she have been a better mother for sacrificing her daughter because males are valued more? Only then to have both children killed regardless? She saved her daughter as SHE SHOULD HAVE. And anyone who speaks against Helaena's mothering but is pro Aegon as a father is just another example of how misogyny shapes our world as well as in Westeros.
Okay just because yall wanna fuck Ageon doesn't mean you can't be critical of him. Lord knows how I am publicly horny for Aemond and I have stated multiple times how that man is like... categorically the worst.
#hotd#aemond targaryen#targaryen#house of the dragon#helaena targaryen#aegon ii targaryen#helaemond#helaegon
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Hi, in the lieu of the lastest chapter of MHA I want to do a post bc ...I almost fall on the mistake to respond the izu hate vitrol
To all the stans of shig and LoV, please, if you have to hate a person for what befall on Shig ...hate Afo or hori (NO DEATH THREATS! HE IS NOT IMMUNE TO CRITICISM BUT HATE AND CRITICISM ARENT THE SAME) but not Izu!
Take a wild guess who is blamed for all Shig did? Izuku Midoriya ofc.
And is bizarre how you lot are ready to jump on the Izu hate when he is, canonically, the only one who wanted to save shig...who btw doesn't deserve an ounce of consideration from Izu. Shig is undeveloped (to be fair, Izu is too. But if you guys call him deku knowing it means useless, then please let's all call Shig the dark deku bc he is a broken doll who can only destroy)
Shiga has show, canonically, he doesn't value any life. He is a terrible leader, he is immature and knew afo was manipulating him and went along (guys all I cited here is pure canon)
I talked to @bibibbon about this and like what would even be Shig's plan here? He knew afo was manipulating him....so he was waiting for an opening ....in the worst time possible?
This legit makes me think of Aizen and Ichimaru from Bleach. To summarize: Ichimaru decided to betray Aizen ....when Aizen was in god form. Poor choice, poor plan indeed
(was Hori copying Tite Kubo? Maybe?)
Also...Shig is hella inconsistent. He hates am bc........
I don't know. He just does.
"Afo groomed him"
Yes and no. Grooming would imply he spend time with shig, and what is showed is how...afo tossed shig aside, communication happened, ofc, but it was via phone or cameras....why?
Actually why afo even has shig as "heir"? The plan since day 1 was to take shig's sexy body? Ok then why toss him aside.
I don't think Afo groomed shig, per se, it was more coaxing him to the worst conclusion....and shig says yes.
At the end of the day, while we can blame afo ... shig's actions are his.
Now onto Izu. Izu who values himself so little ...he went to save Shig bc anyone is worthy saving but him ...and you lot think this is normal or smth to mock Izu. Izu lost his quirk and arms (yes, he got it back) to save a man ...he barely knows. Everyone wanted to kill him and they are right. Gran Torino is right here and yet...Izu tried....but Shig failed himself.
"I'm destruction" He says.
Izu tried to save a monster.
And the monster choose death.
The only plotline Hori gave to Izu ....and he failed. Please be mad at the author for his abysmal incompetency here. The moment shig accepted afo he was extra doomed.
Abd even if in the next chapter Shig is brought back....what good this will give? He will rot in prison.
"this is Izu's fault" no. He is so innocent here it's ridiculous.
(wanted to post here the "how many times do we have to teach this lesson old man" from Bob sponge bc is a meme that fits Izu perfectly )
Shiga is the one to fail himself.
Shiga is TENKO...but he is not that cute kid anymore.
And "change society" no one in class A1 or Izu had the mind to make commentary about society bc well...society would stop existing thanks to Shig and LoV.
Do I need to say again? Izu is innocent here.
"he looks cold at shig" my guy, they are strangers...not long lost brothers (or lovers but we have fics for that) they are strangers and ...considering all unnecessary shit shig did...izu was being way kinder.
#hori is a bad writer#a really bad one#izuku deserves better#mha critical#bnha critical#shigadeku#i guess#lol#the lov and shig stans are annoying#stop blaming izu for smth he is blameless
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Is it just me or does TG's argument that Criston Cole is a victim of Rhaenyra seem like really demeaning? Like the fact that their argument hinges on the fact that Cole is played by a poc/is Dornish. Pretty much everything I've seen from them about that scene is how Rhaenyra, who is white, took advantage of a defenseless poc. It's just infantilizing him purely due to his race. I might be reading too much into it, after all every TG argument is them grasping at straws, but this one just really rubs me the wrong way.
@pessimisticpigeonsworld
"Infantilization":
over-simplifying explanations, using demeaning nicknames (e.g., "sweetheart" or "honey"), or suggesting that the infantilized person would not understand a topic without reason to treat a person as if they were a prepubescent child with no experience whatsoever in worldly matters treat (someone) as a child or in a way which denies their maturity in age or experience
Yes, it should be demeaning, but it is a way of them applying victimhood where there was none in either show or book. Its more uwuing him bec he's a man than PoC, as he's not PoC (the Dornish are "spicy" "whites" in-universe, "olive" skin is a trait many Mediterranean Europeans have). Even if he was, it'd still be more bc he's a man than bc he's PoC. to them.
They make as if Criston was totally helpless when he is both Kingsguard and a man where the girl approaching him is a girl in a court that some think she should never be heir on account of her gender, and women/girls both already have to fear their entire reputation being ruined by mere well placed rumors (and have less chance of marriage, bc marriage was the way they most likely could stay economically secure for their futures). Criston could threaten Rhaenyra quite easily to make some gains on her. Or get into an affair with her, sleep with her while she's inebriated, and threaten her and she'd be the one blamed by both her father ad larger society!
She'd be labeled the seductress largely, and Viserys would, like he did abt Daemon, that Rhaenyra's "desires" or "allowing" to have her virtue ruined even just by name and repute hurts herself & the monarchy. Viserys explicitly tells her the truth doesn't matter, only the image in epi 4. Really, the only good thing that we can draw from his image-loving self is how he decides to protect her and her kids…but even then a lot of it is also so he retains his chosen heir…and yet it's is true that he genuinely loves her and his grandkids [bk and show]. (What a mess)
So it's not really the same sort of infantilization people commit against grown women to make them seem weak and thus "need" a man to "guide" them, but closer to the sort of "infantilization" that is designed to give white women the "privilege" of being seen as the eternal victims who can do no wrong as well as masters of others' bodies (Cole can demand Rhaenyra to run off with him & abandon eveything bc she "owes" him; she can't request him to sleep with her when she teased him). And I mean that it mirrors this by the green stans' intent, not necessarily the nature of the infantilization that is not infantilization--green stans intend to make Cole seem helpless and cutely dumb in order to make Rhaenyra seem a predator and that become the lynchpin of her being bad for rulership. Bec she somehow reinforces all that classism, instead of Alicent/the greens reinforcing all that classist-sexism for personal, baselsss "revenge" and order-keeping.
It's the green stans doing something that I learned concerning peoples switching between ideas or phrases in bad faith to support another contradictory thing--something integral to bigoted talking points.
#asoiaf asks to me#criston cole#rhaenyra and criston#rhaenyra targaryen#criston cole's characterization#rhaenyra's characterization#hotd characterization#book vs tv comparisons#fandom critical#greens stans#green stan nonsense
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I love Daemon and Rhaenyra as characters but i feel tb are weird when it come two this two, a lot of tb i know can write a whole essai about b&c, Daemon laughing at baby's death (the same people also hate Aemond and Aegon for celebrating Luke's death) but when it come to Rhaenyra want to executed the dragonseed they only said she's not perfect? And she is wrong, Like other character can do their job better than her? I stumble to three people calling her she's not perfect That's the only answer they give, but She was betrayed by two dragonseed, even if she was not betrayed she had valid reason to not trust them (few pages before we got Jaehaerys freak out losing three dragon egg! Dragon egg!) i dont get it how all Rhaenyra crimes are way worse than Daemon. this people could excuse a murder but draw the line at racist?.
The only thing when they want to talk about her was just "she was usurped!" "She's a woman" "Misogyny" they even said Rhaenyra was happy married to Laenor? But they dislike Rhaegar arrange marriage to Elia Martell, Rhaenyra literally had nothing good to said to Laenor rather than she insult him just like Daemon to Rhea was, how her marriage was happy?. "She wouldnt get supporter if it not because of Jace" (she literally had supporter since she was fifteen with her black dress while Jace need to promise Joff marriage and his "future" daughter to get support) majority tb dont actually like Rhaenyra they just using her to argue with team green so similar to what they did to Aegon the younger.
Sometimes i think this is not about tb vs tg but team Hightower vs Strong vs Velaryon.
anon, thats all misogyny. they will excuse every single flaw their favourite male characters have, but when it comes to rhaenyra she is suddenly called the worst possible names they can think of. a few years ago the hate she was getting was insane, i do feel like now book rhaenyra is gaining more love ❤️ or at least she is not getting that amount of hate she used to. every bad thing she did was out of desperation, she lost so many people, she was manipulated by mysaria, and was betrayed so many times to the point she did not trust anyone. looking at her character every single action was justified. i do not think she was perfect as you say or imply, she is not the perfect book heroine, she is not a saint, george clearly wanted to write her that way, she was very complex character. i wish we got more of her inner thoughts, but thats the price we have to pay with the way f&b is written (and we are paying it with show rhaenyra).
FOR ME book rhaenyra is not some cold, manipulative bitch, for me she was very smart, but also sometimes impulsive, followed her heart, was sweet to people she cared about and probably did not pay attention to people she did not like. i see her as this girl who was educated since young age, had to carry burden of being heir to the throne, but also wanted the freedom to express love and lust, was not ashamed for her desires, was very bold and wanted to fight for things she believed in. and that makes her the best character for me, and i adore her and find her so so interesting, but im going to stop since this is getting long.
one thing more, only few people understand her and the point of her character. they say they stan her but then say shit like 'she was happy with laenor'. but thats hotd fault. and yes, people use her for their arguments just as they use aegon iii, and im praying that those stans leave both of them alone since they don't know shit 🙏
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You know, TG stans are so hypocrite.
They are the same ones who complain about how House Velaryon should not support Rhaenyra because of Vaemond - when Vaemond only wanted to be Lord of Driftmark because of Corlys' money - and the significance of him being black.
And while I agree HOTD producers have failed in portraying their opulence and pride, Corlys and Rhaenys owe nothing to the greens. That offer Alicent made would have been reversed and they would have given Driftmark to Daemion Velaryon, Vaemond's oldest son, in order to defend male claims over female claims. And Corlys and Rhaenys wanted Baela as queen and Rhaena as Lady of Driftmark, true, it's not the same, but as we see how Rhaenyra raised her sons - and also because of Corlys and Rhaenys' pressure - they would have listened to their opinion in matters of government.
And yet they are the very same ones who criticize Daenaera simply because she exists; it seems they are willing to support Vaemond but not Daenaera.
They say it's creepy how Daenaera is described as a smiling child whose eyes sparkle. As excuse me, if someone is fetishizing a child, it's them, Daenaera is described as beautiful because she is, and her description is meant to be one of a child's innocence, not describing someone in a sexual way. In anything, it's the greens who are sexualizing a black girl (as the Show! Velaryons are black) because they are pissed Daenaera's descendants were princes and princesses and Jaehaera (a white girl) didn't have descendants.
Exactly!
Alicent offering Rhaenys Driftmark for her and her granddaughters was such an idiotic move on her part. She literally usurped the throne from the rightful Queen on the basis that she is a woman, and she is offering the seat of the second greatest power in the Realm to another woman in exchange for approving and supporting this usurpation. Seriously?
Regardless of what TG stans claim, Corlys and Rhaenys would have always been Team Black. There is nothing tying them to the greens. Their biological and adoptive grandchildren are Team Black, and their interests align with theirs. As for what happened to their children - none of it was Rhaenyra or Daemon’s fault. Laena died in childbirth, as many women did during those times. Daemon’s own mother died in childbirth, as did Rhaenyra’s. The Maesters in Pentos were very good and they couldn’t do anything to save Laena. No one is to blame for her death, and even Corlys knows that.
As for Laenor - Corlys and Rhaenys are pretty much responsible for putting him in such a situation they knew perfectly well would bring him hardships. He was not suited to be the Consort of a ruling Queen and he couldn’t even perform his duty and give his wife heirs she needed to secure her claim. Rhaenyra cannot be held accountable for finally ridding herself of the dead weight in her life which could have cost her everything.
Don’t even get me started on the TG stans obsessing over their Green girl and how much they hate Daenaera for replacing her.
Daenaera was a Velaryon and her marriage to Aegon III brought the Velaryons back in the royal fold for the second time in history. It is an important union between the two Valyrian Houses. Way more important than the marriage between Aegon III and the last surviving member of a defeated faction.
Aegon III was already broken, having witnessed horrific things. He needed someone to help heal his broken spirit. He needed light in his life, and that light was Daenaera. If he had stayed married to an equally broken girl with issues and whose father practically killed his mother, I am pretty sure Aegon would have ended up jumping off a balcony.
Daenaera and Viserys II are responsible for healing Aegon III.
And this whole marriage pact between Aegon III and the green girl for “keeping the peace” between the two factions is such bullshit. The green faction was defeated. Only one member was left alive: a broken eight year-old girl. There was no need for such a marriage.
What would the remaining so-called green “supporters” have done if Aegon III didn’t marry that girl? Plot to put her on the throne in his place? Um…isn’t the reason why they started the war because the rightful heir was a woman? To me, Aegon III’s first marriage was so completely unnecessary, and since it was never consummated, it can’t really be considered a true marriage.
I don’t have anything against that little girl, but she belonged to the losing faction and was a constant reminder of the treasonous acts and other atrocities committed by her family. Aegon III deserved better than that.
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I've seen you mention a few times that William will be a failure as king.
Do you think it's mainly because of his ego? I've been watching him for a while. I adore Catherine for various reasons but never really cared that much for him as he seems arrogant and egotistical. Similar to his brother in many ways, but willing to stand by the Crown.
I'm not wholly impressed by earthshot for various reasons, and I'm definitely not impressed with his new pledge to end homelessness. Jumping the gun, making promises that in my opinion, are impossible to keep. Is this saviour mentality why he will unsuccessful?
I'm firmly in the " do the job you have (bread and butter engagements) don't try to be King of the World and make "meaningful impact" - these words smack of egotism to me. Did we ever see the late Queen using words like that? Absolutely not. Just quietly doing her duty and making uniting the country she loved.
Thanks for your thoughts.
(this ask is from 27 June 2023)
I think it'll end up being for a variety of reasons.
First, let's consider this quote about Diana from Kitty Kelley's 1997 book, The Royals, page 457:
Diana publicly reinforced her image as the mother of a future King by talking to Richard Kay about her firstborn son. She bragged that at thirteen he was "taller than his father…and so very different." She belittled Charles by building up William: the son is "decisive"; the son has "sense and sensibility"; the son takes "people for what they are, not who they are." The son is handsome, "not burdened" with stick-out ears. "Tell him he's good looking," wrote Richard Kay after visiting with Diana, "and Wills says he can't be because that would make him vain."
Again, that quote is from 1997. The "positive" image that so many Will & Kate Cultists and Charles-hating Diana stans have is straight from Diana's pr games thirty years ago. Most of the perception of William going to be a "great" king comes straight from the drivel Diana connived to get published in the UK tabs in her hate campaign against Charles.
Yes, William certainly is arrogant and egotistical. Notice how he never bows to The King in public, except during the actual coronation ceremony last year. You see Kate curtseying to The King and Queen in public, but not William. He is petulant, just like his brother. (And sorry Wales stans but keep showing your lack of age when you don't realize that Charles bowed to his parents in public all the time until the last seven to ten years, when he started being treated as a pseudo king because he had been heir-to-the-throne for so damn long.)
Consider now that William has completed more than a year of time as the heir to the throne. Yet, in 2023, he could barely best The Duke of Gloucester in engagement numbers. The Duke of Gloucester is older than King Charles and currently 32nd in the line of succession.
William is hardly more prepared now for being the monarch than he was a year ago. (He has less than eight years to become prepared.) It is plainly obvious to me--and probably a few other people--that he is straight-up avoiding increasing his workload. He is not going to be prepared to be monarch. He has not done enough diplomatic tours. He has not done enough engagements for causes that are not "close" to his heart.
Basically, when it gets down to it, he is setting himself up for failure because he refuses to prepare for the job. When he suddenly becomes king sooner than he would like, he won't be prepared. With his stubborn nature, he's unlikely to seek guidance from anyone within the royal family because he believes himself to be their superior in all things. He inherited his mother's ego and her ability to create her own misfortunes. Serious misfortunes.
#ask#William The Terrible#prince william#William The Prince of Wales#princess diana#Prince & Princess OWN GOALS#The Will & Kate Cult#charles haters#british royal family#Workshy Will#William The Prince of OWN GOALS#William The Weak#quotes#books#Wales Wailers#crazy cambridge stans#Wales fans are CHUMPS#Richard Kay
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filoni called anakin "the greatest jedi of all time" in the ahsoka sneak peak lmaooo that's wild. just the cherry on top of the slop he's been serving us in recent years.
is that why other jedi in his works are often trashed and his darling favorite oc ahsoka is so elevated in importance? is that why he doesn't know jack shit about attachments and constantly misrepresents it, because to him, jedi are the big meanies that tried preventing anakin from boning padme? someone please stop this man.
Ah, anon, did you sense a disturbance in the Force that brought you here? Instagram forced me to look at the new Ahsoka trailer about forty times today and I'm sure my saltiness is palpable. Every time I hear that orange fucktart say "Heir to the Empire" I could rip up his stupid notebook emblazoned with Ahsoka's symbol I saw in a behind the scenes post with my bare hands.
I think Filoni's Anakin (not canon Anakin, not the one in the prequel films, because TCW Anakin is NOT Anakin* and I will die on this hill) is a dear OC to Filoni, but of course not on the same level of Ahsoka. So of course he's speshul just the way Ahsoka is. The Jedi ~just don't understaaaaaaand them~ and they DESERVE special treatment and to break the rules like many an amateur writers' OCs.
*Apparently the TCW Anakin voice actor was told to "do a mix of Luke and Han" so clearly staying in-character for Anakin was never on the radar.
I did see a post I can't find now that was directed at Anakin stans, not Filoni, but it was interesting because it said basically Anakin is called the greatest Jedi of all time by his stans but they really mean "the most powerful Jedi of all time." Because he possibly/probably was, whether you go by midi-chlorians or just demonstrated power with the Force. But the post went on to say the Jedi don't value power like that, don't measure by it, so it's a fandom projection to say Anakin was the "greatest of the Jedi." Which makes sense to me, because the greatest of an organization wouldn't be the one who destroys them. And how are we measuring "greatness" anyway? Overall accomplishment? Skill with the Force? Number of people helped/saved (and do you get a penalty for people you hurt/kill)? Does Yoda win by default just because he's had longer than everyone else to rack up Jedi Greatness points and longer to practice his skills? Personally I would pick Revan, powerful in the Force, made a huge impact in her day, and her redemption (if you play Light Side like I did) was actively undoing the damage she did and defeating Malak for good, not just killing a Sith to save her own loved one and then dying. And of course I'll freely admit part of that is because she's one of my favorite characters. The point is, it's subjective. And Filoni has shown again and again he cannot be subjective about his faves. Just look at TCW Character Bo getting the Darksaber literally handed to her by the main character being shafted in his own show.
Oooo, since you're here, wanna hear an absolutely RANCID crack theory I had today? What if the whole Din Grogu thing is setting up some obscure Outer Rim tradition of taking on another's name with your own so that Filoni has an excuse to have Luke say "Oh Ahsoka, you are so wise and perfect and the Best Jedi Of All Time Who Truly Embodies What Filoni Thinks A Jedi Should Be, I would like to go by Ahsoka Luke now! Who's Padme anyway, no one important." While Filoni claps and honks like a seal as Ahsoka Luke Skywalker appears in the credits. Okay it's very silly but I put nothing past him.
#I cannot even pretend to be polite about this damn show anymore i hate it#i hate rebels characters AND the thrawn trilogy being sacrificed at the altar of ahsoka#anti ahsoka#anti ahsoka tano#anti ahsoka show#if you don't have anything nice to say about ahsoka come sit by me lmao
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Reading your rants and realising I don't like Sansa, I just liked the potential of her becoming a blend of Cersei and Margary. But of course that didn't happen. Tragedy.
Precursor, this is not meant to shame anyone for liking late show Sansa nor am I trying to change anyone's opinions on her. This is just me explaining the main core concepts of my problems with her post season 4 characterization.
Late show Sansa always felt like they were experimenting with making her a more vindictive and manipulative character but never wanted to commit. I think they wanted Sansa to be both the developing Cersei, but also to let her become Queen in the North but had no idea how to make that happen, so it's why she never is committed to this new persona.
She switches between loving sister and horribly manipulative. Her cold, uncaring attitude does not come off as a jaded result of trauma it comes off as trying to make her a stone faced girl boss. Early show Sansa isn't my favorite character but she feels real and she feels like she grows as a person.
Her costumes show this. Season 1 she starts dressing more like Cersei to show her priorities lie in fitting in with what she thinks will be her new family. Season 2 when everything starts to weigh down on her she starts dressing like Catelyn showing her making unconcious ties with her family by dressing like the mother she is forced to publically denounce as a traitor. Season 3 and start of 4 she dresses more like Margaery because now shes finding comfort in what seems to be a kind friend. Then the 2nd half of season 4 and part of 5 she dresses darker suddenly and part of it is being in disguise but it's also showcasing her time with Petyr Baelish is turning her different. Season 6 onward she dressed exactly the same way they were also dressing Cersei but with none of the reasons why behind it.
Sansa in the late seasons is infuriating to me but lots of her stans misunderstand why. I fully enjoy characters like Cersei (especially book Cersei in affc) where she has genuine complexity but is ultimately manipulative and selfish and does bad things partially because she enjoys the power over people. I love Margaery because there is a good heart in her and Loras, but they are playing the game so well that even though we as the audience see it, not even some of the smartest characters can do anything about it. Margaery is the woman Sansa wanted to be, but Cersei and Petyr are the characters she turned out to be. And I wished they committed to it.
There's a big post I didn't reblog to try and avoid angering any followers of mine who love her, but it outlines exactly why her actions in the Battle of the Bastards plot were essentially evil and malicious and it's why I believe the intent originally was to have her saving the day be a not an act of heroism, but an attempt to coup Jon from any power. I feel like her showing up when she does and finding Jon alive as being not part of her plan to be so much more interesting. Because as SOON as Jon is crowned, she publically disagrees and argues with him in front of the court, complains to people about him in private, argues with him more in private, and when hes gone she starts to stir conflict that leads people to publically say they should've declared her Queen instead of Jon (which is fucking treason to say I will add). Sansa in the books doesnt respect Jon and always saw him as less then, and was the only sibling who still called him her bastard brother, when everyone else had grown to half brother and many eventually dropping that entierly and only thinking of him in terms of an full brother. Sansa inherited Catelyns bastard discriminatory views and she does not respect Jon. And I think she sees herself as Neds lawful heir and sees Jon as being King instead of her as an insult and wishes to find a way to get rid of him either by crippling him in battle, or attempting to coup him through the people he rules. Her actions with Jon is where her characterization is the absolute worst and its where I believe theres the strongest argument to be made that she has developed into someone whom she THINKS is like Margaery, but she actually is just like Cersei and Petyr Baelish.
Which is why Jon starts dressing like Ned, the character he internally is the most aligned in morals and values with. And she starts dressing at the exact same time, like Cersei and Petyr because its them she has become the most like, not Margaery who is always contrasted in light tones and alluring fabrics. (I could make a whole separate post about how Cersei's costumes contrasted with Margaery in season 3 and 4 are brilliant adaptive methods of portraying the internal conflicts between them that were lost in text to screen adaptation the early show costume design was so brilliant and people do not give credit enough for how much world building and thematic hinting the costumes are doing in seasons 1 through 5).
Season 7 Sansa with Arya is hard to describe because so much of it was an attempt at a rug pull to reveal her and Arya were working together. Now that entire sub plot makes NO SENSE and I do not have the time to elaborate on why it's insane, but it also does another thing I hate. It cripples Petyr Baelish as a character just to make Sansa come out on top.
Petyr Baelish is an absolute gift a character and he is the kind of smart that Sansa incorrectly thinks she is. She only comes out on top because they didn't know how to end Petyr's storyline and had Sansa do it to get him out of the way. That and there was just zero acknowledgment that she sat on her chair inside the main hall court and let her little sister slit a man's throat after an unfair and rigged trial. When the King she is sitting in for, would have done what their father would've done. Jon wouldve given him the exact charge of his crimes outright, and brought him outside to properly execute him by his own hand a la, the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword.
Season 8 Sansa is the closest she was to bearable since season 4 Sansa, but not because she is well written. She is just slightly less poorly written then whatever the bonkers they were flip flopping Dany between (this is not an anti Sansa/pro Dany blog we hate Dany here too). But the finale shes back to full awful display. She does nothing to give proper defense of Jon, does not bring up the fact that there is literally no fucking proof of what Jon did, doesn't vogue for him doing the right thing (also theres just zero parallels that Jon ultimately realized that the right thing to do was the thing that ruined Jaime Lannisters entire reputation and that he has to simply hope somehow Ned understands the cost of what hes about to do but again my Jaime and Jon paralells rant is not for this post). She simply let's them send to to the Nights Watch and I fully believe she is letting him die alone without the pack because he is the one person who still stands in her way of ruling. She becomes Queen as soon as Jon is finally out of the way and doesn't just be like "hey new queens orders Jon you are pardoned in the north".
She also seems to just be sending the free folk north of the wall too, when in season 5 Jon literally brings them South of the Wall and starts the process of finding them lands in The Gift, a far Northern stretch of land partially controlled by the Nights Watch that is mostly abandoned anyways due to wildling raids. So she doesn't even let them stay in the North when Jon's entire reason for bringing them South was because he understood that the two sides of the North should be coexisting and not fighting so she undoes everything Jon as both Lord Commander and King does, because I think she is doing what she thinks Cersei would've done.
Gotten rid of people with more power then her, so that she can be the one on control.
But, it will never be seen as such because the show refused to commit to it. They made her do these actions but always framed it as her being smart and cool. Sansa wouldn't be insufferable if they just let her be a more malicious, badly intentioned student of Cersei but who wrongly thinks she is as clever as Margaery. Cersei isn't insufferable because we all understand the character complexity behind her worst traits and doesn't pretend she isnt a bad person. The late seasons pretend Sansa is a smart person but not a bad person. But she is. Late show Sansa is insufferable because she is a bad person who I am supposed to pretend is this smart, girlboss who knows better then her strong moraled older brother who is more of a leader then she's ever been.
I've always felt that Sansa's story was leading to her becoming someone far away from the Stark identity, and that the very early killing of Lady was both a symbol for it and a catalyst of it. I think it makes sense her story does not end happily with her finding harmony with her remaining siblings. I think Sansas story makes more sense to end with her standing in opposition to everything the remaining Starks stand for because she has allowed herself to learn the worst lessons from the worst people but doesn't have the self awareness to understand that.
The last time I enjoyed show Sansa was the episode of Jofferys death, because it was the last time I felt like I was watching a real character and not a prop for the writers to turn into a badass.
Also just saying, my own opinion, but late show Sansa should've had a kindling romance with Tyrion (they are still married by the way that was never annulled) and they have a few moments that I found myself desperately wishing they would lean into it. I think it would've made her a little bit more of a rounded character, and it would help lean into the idea of her standing oppose to her family. Finding romance in a Lannister, when her political marriage to Tyrion is literally what caused book Robb to write her out of his line of succession in the first place.
Anyways, uh, no ones reading this by this point but I just think late show Sansa wouldve been a better character had they acknowledged the bad person she had become instead of pretending it all just made her strong and cool.
Queen in the North Sansa makes me 🤢🤮
#i just cannot stand her by season 5 and im sick of her stans acting like thats so unreasonable#its not a case of just unfairly hating a female character its me rightfully hating a fucking poorly written character#game of thrones#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#anti sansa stark#anti sansa stans#long post
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(1) Before the show aired I used to say I was on TB, now I feel like that's admitting a shameful secret? Because I'd be putting myself in the same bag as A LOT of delusional TB/Rhaenyra stans, most of whom are just bullies. The more I see both teams fighting on reddit or here the more stupid it looks to me; I end up wanting to correct them but then it comes off as me siding with TG. I'm not but it kills me to see how wrong they got the story. Most TB fans read F&B and filled in the blanks with their own delusions and think that's what really happened; what's even worse is they can't separate book from show. They think they have the moral highground but a lot of them are terrible, with their double standards and self righteousness. Like when they accuse TG of mysoginy but then crucify Alicent for everything she did and didn't do. Even young Alicent, who did absolutely nothing wrong, but still gets attacked by Rhaenyra's feminist stans.
If anyone asked me now I'd say I'm not in any team; my favourite characters are aligned with Rhaenyra, whom I think is the rightful heir based on my understanding of succession. I will defend Alicent cause she's an interesting character that people refuse to try to understand and is treated unfairly. I actually loved watching most of the characters (and relationships) because they are all so complex, even if I don't agree or like them . They are engaging, despite what "team" they're on. It really annoys me that so many fans miss out on this because they're busy with the TB vs TG war.
i think that not being in any team is the best way to watch the show, anon.
i mean i'm TG but watching daemon is def very entertaining. he's a horrible person but matt smith (who's one of my fav actors from the good old doctor who days) is incredible. i can enjoy daemon's character while also acknowledging the fact that he's a horrible person. appreciating characters for their complexly & just how entertaining they are without agreeing with the things they do or even liking them is a skill this fandom desperately needs to learn.
i got a hate anon a few days ago accusing me of "having bad morals" for saying alicent did what she believed was right and honorable, and then just refused to understand that what alicent believes is right is not necessarily what i believe is right (i mean she's a fictional character from a medieval inspired fantasy world, of course we're not going to have the same set of values ? ). i'm not TG because i believe that men should inherit before women, i just like the characters better and find them more interesting.
i also think that this fandom has a HUGE problem separating headcanons from actual canon. with daemyra shippers being the obvious example. daemon and rhaenyra's relationship is very toxic. he's psychically abusive to her, he gr00med her, he abandoned her in a brothel... like this is obviously a very bad relationship. but people still insist on labeling daemon as a MaLeWiFe and a femenist (?) [he smashed his wife's head with a rock because he didn't like her but ok] and get very angry whenever someone tries to suggests that maybe... daemyra isn't that great of a ship.
don't get me wrong it's fine to ship daemyra, we all like to ship fictional toxic relationships, but you have to separate the headcanons you have from the actual show.
yeah the double standard with the so-called feminists attacking alicent is... a lot. an unhinged stan left a comment on one of my posts talking about alicent's "lowly hightower c***". a lot of them are accusing her of "seducing" viserys when she was 14-15, or defending corlys for offering his 12yo daughter as a bride to the middle aged viserys... i'm not very comfortable with these posts so i usually just end up blocking the op. (and don't even get me started on how some of them treat nettles)
thank you for the ask! ;)
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Racules's portrayal in 19 is... it could go either way from here.
The literal way to read it is Racules is indeed a second-rate villain and is being clowned on to ease his future redemption or it's catharsis for audience's anger instead of/before his death.
The convoluted way as popped up by Yano-san's acting is Racules is still the two-steps-ahead mastermind that takes the fall all by himself, and it's equally painful to see someone carrying that be ridiculed upon.
If you go literal it'd destroy Racules's 'chessmaster' image in so many stan's mind. But not, his actions in 19 like throwing away ZERO and pleading Yanma are too awkward to be explained away. A third option is Racules is secretly morally good, but he's bad at improvising when the plan doesn't go his way.
The dilemma that unlike the main six, the audience can't decide which is the 'outer' vs. 'inner' side of Racules - or confirm that he even has one.
Personally I don't think his starting point is purely good or evil, just that he truly believes absolute power is the only thing strong enough to secure peace. His idealism was real, but maybe God's Fury or as a young puppet changed his mind on power. Or he's starting to believe his own lie. But this line of thought is already shaken by the flashback.
So far the show seems to imply that Racules is showing Gira how to become King: from the principle of creating a Shugodom where the King protects the people, and the people protect those within reach, to the political necessity to unite other Kings, demonstration of the power-up linked to their ancestor, and now legitimizing Gira's claim with the law on duels.
I saw some pessimistic comments that Racules would turn out a comic villain and the mastermind persona is more Yano-san's creation (like Shiokara with his actor). But say Takano-san corrected ep13 at 19 intentionally or not, I say we stay patient and see where Racules will go first?
I'm not saying Racules will die next week (if anything, I'm betting on his popularity changing his fate), since the duel seems to be interrupted by Bugnarok (again) from Toei website's previews, but it is pretty significant they chose a low ground and not somewhere over a cliff or water for the duel huh.
Now I want to know if he marries Suzume for the identity of Toufu's heir consort as a failsafe before the duel, or if Suzume chose to marry him despite him losing, or he actually won and the wedding is a distraction for the people?
#mon mon#ko19#kingohger#kingohger spoilers#kingoh meta#racules husty#if Racules ended up being a straightforward character i won't be sad like a stan but definitely missed opportunity as a kingoh plot fan#I like this episode a lot as a team fan#Not sure how I feel as half a Tool though#I hadn't any presumption for this episode since I expected it to be a typical sentai united vibe>anything mini-finale but
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To both of the anons who are using translators, I’m just gonna respond to you both. I’m having trouble fully understanding your asks so I’m not going to respond to it all but let me (hopefully) clarify my original post & point.
There are a ton of actors in Hollywood & all range in talents, expertise & levels of integrity/fame hungriness. The main difference between them and Seb is that even though they want awards, they are not so desperate as to buy them. Some do, Seb isn’t alone in buying his award over the years, I’m sure. BUT Seb has said for years how he cares more about getting the projects seen and heard. The projects are seen and heard, who cares if Hollywood doesn’t give him some trophy for it?
What happened to him caring more about the art of it and telling a story than winning some award he cannot take with him when he dies? More than the opinions of other Hollywood people who, at the end of the day will forget him anyways once his stardom fades. Have you never seen any “where are they now?” Series?
The difference between Seb and all of these other actors is that prior to 2020 when all this crap started (first with ale now with Annabelle) is Seb set himself apart already through his talent and his HUMBLE HUMILITY. Thats what made so many people (fans and those in the industry lucky enough to work with him) love him.
Now that Seb has become so fame hungry & desperate he’s willing to buy his awards just for recognition in the industry it leaves a very bad taste in people’s mouths. Not just fans, I’m sure many in Hollywood are seeing the same (if not more) BS we are. All it takes his him running one person in Hollywood the wrong way & he can get himself blacklisted.
So why is it so important to him to change who’s he is, basically selling his soul to win something when he didn’t need to? His talent and integrity used to speak for itself, to those who mattered. Now that he’s coming across as very narcissistic, fame hungry & with an attitude (for not getting his way) he doesn’t stand out……. He’s now just like every other game hungry individual in Hollywood.
His actions the last for years, although he may not see the effects now, are going to have the opposite effect. Yes he’s getting lots of jobs, awards noms & even winning but if he keeps this attitude of his up, the fairness & lack of integrity, I can guarantee you he’s going to start being seen as just another actor & he won’t stand out like he did before. And then directors will start selecting more based on talent and not who’s who and Seb isn’t the most talented out there.
I know you all idolize him & maybe you haven’t seen some of the other actors full filmography but Seb isn’t as talented as y’all think he is. YES he’s talented but just like any craft, there’s always more talented folks surrounding him. And yes Hollywood has a history of being bought and letting the less talented get ahead by buying heir way into the industry (Weinstein girls was a good example) but the major difference is for Seb’s entire career he has never come across as this fame hungry & desperate. He’s changed & now he’s just like every other schmuck in Hollywood also desperate for materialistic things you can’t take with you when you die.
And it’s okay for us to be disappointed in him & voice our opinions here on a GOSSIP blog. It’s okay for you to voice your opinion, too. But there are a ton of people in this fandom so far up Seb butt (and Annabelle’s too for that matter), that they cannot see just how far he has fallen from Grace. Even if YOU don’t have your rose colored glasses on, several people still do & instead of just acknowledging we all have our own opinions, most of those folks attack and belittle anyone who should say anything negative about their Idol Sebastian Stan, or his girlfriend.
“Pride cometh before the fall!” And Seb is going to fall, hard, if he doesn’t get his ego in check and soon. If the industry doesn’t check him, his guardian angels will!
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First of all, you did it again Torisimo. It's art. It's beauty. It's pain because i'm like speechless.
OKAY OKAY OKAY!!!!!! LIKE OKAY!
And you have audacity to not to consider yourself a good writer. Blasphemy. You write so well!!!!!
I'm Aemond's lover so when I saw you wrote something with him I knew it was going be good. And I wasn't disappointed.
The beginning ✨chills babe chills ✨
DARKWING MY BABYYYYYYY THE WAY SHE GREETED CARAXES 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
And Alyssanne Blackwood!!!! We need more of that queen. She was badass and yesssss Visenya being friends with her. ALLIANCES!
Daddy Daemon loves his oldest baby 🥺🥺🥺I love seeing his softer side. and I just love how he calls Ser Cunston a Ser Crispin. Legend.
Imagine Visenya's and Aemmy's last kiss 🥹😭 that bitterness.
WAIT SO BLACKWING IS OLDER THAN GRANNY VHAGAR???? like it means she was buddies with original gang. Did she came from Valyria???? Or she was hatched on dragonstone. So many questions: and be prepared to answer it.
AND THE WAY VISENYA WAS FIGHTING!!!!! CHEF'S KISS 😍🤌🤌🤌 I LOVED IT SO MUCH! LEGEND WAS SLAAAAYING OF COURSE UNTIL SHE WAS BITCSLAPPED INTO SER CRISPIN'S TENT. THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE.
Blackwing she should dracarys the whole camp. I said what I said.
IMAGINE OTTO WITH TARGARYEN WHITE WIG I CAN'T 😂😂😂😂 "tis is I, Viserys, your heir"
"we shared womb not a brain" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 love it, it's amazing line.
VISENYA AND DAERON???????????????? ENGAGED???? GIRL!!!! PLEASE EXPLAI IT MOREE???????
ngl I they would look cute.
We applaud Visenya spitting in Aegon's face. Queen shit.
Visenya iš Queen. I love her
RHAENYS THE QUEEN WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!!!
Yesss!! Justice for my lady!!!! Yesss. 😍😍😍😍😍
I really love how you explained the whole eye debacle and how it was poorly mishandled by adults of the room. Like most of the problems would have been prevented and rifts mended if that situation would have handled properly. I really love how Visenya realised it was fault from both sides. Smart girl.
While I like Daemon I will forever hate him for orchestrating Blood&Cheese like. Bruh. Who didn't hugged you enough so you would think that shit is okay to do.
Omg omg omg omg omg their hug.
I'm screeching. I'm dying. I'm not breathing. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥺🥹🥺🥹🥺🥹🥺🥹🥺🥺🥺🥹🥺🥹🥺🥹🥺🥹🥺😭🥺😭🥺😭🥺
IT'S PERFECT. IT'S SO GOOD. IT'S SO REAL.
IT'S SO WELL WRITTEN. I JUST CAN'T.
BUT YES GURL HOUSE STARK IS AMAZING.
I mean. It's funny how Targrayens shit on other houses and they think they're are better than others.
Like when they were just poor Valyria farmers, Starks were already Kings of Winter.
Logic.
We stan House Stark and ofc Cregan Stark.
VISENYA SAYINF HOUSE STARK WORDS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹wifey stands with her hunny.
Tears cannot quench dragonfire. This line I just can't. AMAZING. I LOVE IT 😍😍😍
‘She has me,’ vouched Cregan, carding his fingers through her locks, ‘All of me.’ well fuck I came here for Aemond and I will leave with Cregan
okay so.
Holy shit.
I'm like.
Okay okay okay I need a minute .
What I need is the whole story completed at my fingertips. BECAUSE IT WAS GLORIOUS!!!!!
So well written!!!I loved it!!!?
You're really great writer and it was well fleshed out and written. And the way Visenya thinks and acts it's so refreshing. And Aemond was sooo in character and like so real. And Cregan. Omg cregan. I loved him.
Thank you for writing this beautiful piece! 🥺❤️
And 🖕 for making me hooked.
Jk jk. I love it.
Flames of Deceit
Summary: Aemond and Visenya reunite amidst the Dance of the Dragons.
Words: 13,021
Pairings: Aemond Targaryen x OC, Cregan Stark x OC, Alyn Velaryon x OC
Warnings: canon-typical incest (Aemond and Visenya are cousins, as well as uncle and niece), book and show spoilers, Westerosi geopolitics, mentions of imperialism and slavery, canon-typical violence, war, blood and gore, fire and burning, mass death, mention of amputation, mentions of torture and captivity, mentions and threats of execution and physical harm, mentions of poverty and starvation, parental neglect, food and eating, alcohol and drinking, sexism, victim blaming, slut-shaming, ableist language, explicit language, nudity, smut (vaginal sex in flashbacks, loss of virginity), unresolved sexual tension, grief/mourning, trauma, angst, hurt/comfort, survivor guilt, mutual pining, emotional/psychological abuse, verbal abuse, mentions of pregnancy, childbirth, miscarriage, and death in childbirth, mentions of child/infant death, mentions of infidelity. If I missed any warnings, please let me know! Under no circumstances can you copy, plagiarize, steal my work, or post it somewhere else!
Notes: This totally didn’t take me almost 7 months to write. Cregan Stark is the protagonist of Fire & Blood. Rise, Cregan nation. My OC Visenya is Rhaenyra’s and Daemon’s daughter, and Jace’s older twin. Superfecundation, baby. Visenya and Jace are born in 111 AC, not 114 AC. The Battle in the Gullet still occurs in 130 AC, soon after the events of this one-shot. Reblogs and comments are encouraged and immensely appreciated. If this does well, I’ll post a reader version.
Credits: Huge thank you to my betas @maharani-radha-writes 💛 @aereth 💖 and @revolution-starter 🩶, and to @haystack-boy @lavendertales @buttercup–bee @agirllovespancakes and @oloreaa for their constant patience and support. It means a lot, and I’m immensely grateful. Apart from my OC Visenya, all characters belong to George R.R. Martin. Gif by @aemondtargaryensource (x)
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EARLY 130 AC
HARRENHAL, RIVERLANDS
The sheer immensity of Harrenhal had provoked dizziness in Visenya. She had heard the story innumerable times. King Harren Hoare had built greedily and obsessively, for four decades, sacrificing thousands of slaves, and beggaring the riverlands and the Iron Islands. The indestructible construction had been no match for Balerion, whose fire had consumed the tyrant and his sons inside it, ending their line. Most Westerosi believed that the phantoms of the Hoares wandered the castle halls. The fortress is costly to maintain, and it devours its possessors. Qoherys, Harroway, Towers… All extinct. Whether cursed or not, Harrenhal remained a strategic location – the largest castle in the Seven Kingdoms.
The current castellan – and Larys Clubfoot’s great-uncle – Ser Simon Strong had recently surrendered Harrenhal to Daemon Targaryen; the presence of Caraxes had undoubtedly contributed to his hasty decision. Following the victory at the Burning Mill and the subsequent submission of Stone Hedge – terminating Green strength in the riverlands – Queen Rhaenyra’s allies had commenced their gathering at Harrenhal, in accordance with the Prince Consort’s stratagem.
Visenya had departed Dragonstone on the same night that Daemon had summoned her, having been granted safe passage by the Velaryon ships patrolling the Gullet; at the outbreak of the war, the Sea Snake’s fleet had closed off Blackwater Bay, choking trade to and from the capital.
As soon as she had dismounted her dragon in the castle yard, she had sensed the eerie ambience that had haunted Harrenhal’s colossal curtain walls and fissured, melted towers. Formidable and dreadful. Harren’s monument and tomb. Blackwing had responded to Caraxes’ fervent shriek with her own, flapping her wings at him. Happy to be reunited.
Her father had offered her a warm welcome and a tight embrace, had even insisted that she sit on his war council – wherein she had befriended Alysanne Blackwood, whom she had grown quite fond of.
At last, Visenya had thought, on the morning that Daemon had sent for her. Though she loved him dearly, her father hadn’t invited her there because he had missed his daughter. Visenya had met with Daemon alone, in the Hall of the Hundred Hearths – she had counted thirty-five – grander than the throne room in King’s Landing, the discolored ceiling looming loftily above them. Her father had donned his chain mail over his crimson tunic. Does he sleep in that? Or am I the threat?
‘Ser Crispin and the Kinslayer are marching on Harrenhal,’ Daemon had informed her, instead of “good morrow”, pressing a rolled parchment into her palm, ‘They mean to join forces with the Lannisters’, at Stoney Sept.’
Her heart had jolted at the mere mention of his title. Aemond… At the Usurper’s farce of a coronation that the Hightowers had constrained her to attend – dressed in green – Visenya had kissed him farewell, forsaking any glimmer of hope for a future with him. I have demonstrated where my loyalties lie. I have chosen my family.
Her lilac eyes had skimmed over the scrawled message on the sheepskin, the wax sigil foreign to her. The White Worm?
‘You are strangely poised,’ Visenya had observed, suspiciously, studying her father’s amused expression.
‘I’ve been waiting for this,’ he had confirmed, smirking wickedly, curling his hand around the hilt of sheathed Dark Sister. Another one of his traps… and he’s pulling me into it. Daemon had gently cradled her cheek, purring, ‘I have a mission for you, sweetling.’
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Many stans say that neither side won the war. What do you think? Did the blacks won? Did the greens won?
Aegon just comes out as losing out more than Rhaenyra either way you slice it, even though we can't call what Rhaenyra and the blacks had a total victory. His rival's descendant is going to likely, if not completely, destroy, greatly trouble, and undo the precedent against higher female political power not just in Westeros but the entire world. So I'd say he loses.
I mean, he only also rules for a few months to Rhaenyra's few months...so...him being declared king over her was purely by the whims of sexist maester and regents. Rhaneyra was/is a Queen. And he is CALLED so even in both F&B and AWoIaF.
If we talk about each sides' goals (which is to both establish their candidates as the ruler AND to continue the dynasty/legacy through those people's lines/children/descendants), then it's obvious that the blacks and Rhaneyra "won", but it was a pyrrhic victory:
is a victory that comes at a great cost, perhaps making the ordeal to win not worth it
Rhaenyra does have the entire Targ dynasty come from her & Daemon through Viserys II to our beloved and savior Daenerys Stormborn, Mother of Dragons, Slayer of Lies, the Silver Lady, the Breaker of Chains, the Silver Queen, the dragon's daughter, the dragonmother, the bride of fire, the Daughter of death, child of three, Mhysa, the prince that was promised, the queen across the waters, Azor Ahai returned.
However, she was murdered by her rival, Daemon died, her first three sons died, and she couldn't sit the throne as a ruler for long enough and uncontested enough for no one to even try to deny she was queen. The greens here lost utterly; their kids birthed no ruling Targ descendants. Jaehaera, Jaehaerys, and Maelor never had kids before they died and Jaehaera was the very last before she is also killed off. Aegon may have become king and stayed so for a few more weeks...but he contributes no direct "blood" to the current Targs and he's remembered as a bad king [below].
If we talk about the story's themes and what the deaths/how they happened happened, again Aegon doesn't even have a good reputation as "morally neutral" king. He's remembered as "grasping" & GRRM makes sure to compare Joffrey to him:
In comparison, the only person who has anything actually negative as opposed to neutral to say abt Rhaenyra has been Stannis. And he comes from the house that supported Aegon AND is trying to work towards his own succession goals over the Lannister-Baratheons (male primogeniture/denying Cersei's kids as bastards of her and Jaime).
Plus the Dance was the result of more than one succession crises that always included whether or not women should be considered unequivocal heirs even in the event of their being a younger brother. From the years of Targ assimilation into Andal-FM patriarchy/male primogeniture.
Which is why Rhaenyra dying from a gruesome femicide cannot rule her as an absolute "winner". Her coming into the throne and actually ruling for long would obviously have been itself a moment of precedent-making important for the political authority women can wield onto themselves instead of just on the behalf of men. Thus have Westeros on the track towards more political autonomy and protections for women, even with lower classed ones (Alysanne, Rhaenys the Conqueror). Rhaenyra herself probably wouldn't enact laws for the lower class like those two or Aegon V, but her being a woman ruler would allow for more altruistic female rulers to be able to come into power as well, instead of being shunted aside or abused alongside those women who are evil or just self-focused of different degrees & fluctuations.
And if we parallel Rhaenyra's struggle with the Amethyst Empress v her younger brother The Bloodstone Emperor (this legend of an unjust usurpation/disempowerment of a woman by her male relation ruled in the ASoIaF lore to have caused the first Long Night) AND group these with how Dany is the Azor Ahai/has had her own problems with her own brother Viserys/his abuse, I think that Rhaenyra is the 2nd "loss" to the Amethyst Empress' 1st "loss" that will lead to Dany's 3rd "win" (child of "three" can have multiple layers). And how the Dance is about sexism/about how women occupy their political landscapes beyond and in Westeros as being made subservient and objects to male violence while developing their own agency in resistance/victory to that context.
Male primogeniture also determined the rest of the successions that came up in the Targ lineage, so Rhaenyra "lost". That accompanied with more women, even non Targs, facing more emotional, sexual, and physical abuse from their male counterparts. Even relatives. At the same time, Aegon loses through Dany, who comes from Rhaenyra and is the embodiment of woman-taking-power he tried to completely vanquish for his own ends. So I take that as Rhaenyra "winning"...as long as GRRM doesn't make Daenerys lose something vital to this formula. Espe not her life or way to protect her way towards happiness or some sort of political authority. At the same time, Dany is a altruistic//revolutionary leader, Rhaenyra a more traditional-privileged//class-based one (which is part of why she falls, actually) so again, bound to lose in that way. But Aegon was BOTH gender and class based, SO AGAIN I'd say Rhaenyra takes the philosophical edge of "winning" through, again, a pyrrhic victory.
And then there is how Rhaenyra's own son prevents a woman from really being protected from her own husband's abuse...not once but twice--Naerys and Megette.
#asoiaf asks to me#the dance of the dragons#definitions#rhaenyra targaryen#daenerys stormborn#agot characterization#westeros succession#westerosi history#asoiaf#fire and blood
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