#we get more mini games in sb

[star-going-supernova]

Here’s a SB prompt for ya!

Gregory realistically couldn’t have lasted the entire game without getting hurt. He got bruises from being slammed into things, his limbs aches for days cause he pushed himself too hard, and you can’t tell me any scrapes from Monty or Roxy didn’t scar.

Gregory would 100% use jokes and quips to deal with all the memories from that night whenever it gets brought up. Freddy who’s programming is insistent on lightening the mood and is joke based hates when he does it with a burning passion.

I’m still not done with the mini ficlets, lol. I went with immediate aftermath instead of further down the line.

Just a Scratch

The shift from night mode to day mode as, somewhere, a clock finally struck six was the best thing Gregory had seen all night. Lights began to turn on, STAFF bots disappeared by the dozen, and the stupid music cut out, leaving a ringing silence in its wake. 

Just visible from his hiding place, he watched Chica twitch a bit, then zombie walk away toward her room down the long hall of Rockstar Row. Mere minutes later, Monty and Roxy followed, none seemingly aware of their surroundings. They all vanished into their rooms without a peep. 

Still tense and on guard, Gregory unfolded himself from the tight corner behind the trash can he’d been tucked behind. There was no movement from the green rooms; from where he was crouched, he could see that Roxy’s was empty. Recharging in their back hallways, maybe? 

Guests would start arriving in a few hours, after all, and the show must go on.

Limping down the hall, he raised his watch and pressed the button to talk. “Freddy? You still with me?” 

“I am still here, superstar,” Freddy said, and he sounded so relieved. “I believe it is over. The barricade over the doors has risen. You are safe now.” 

Safe. It’d only been one night, but it felt like such a foreign concept. How could the pizzaplex ever feel safe again, no matter what time of day it was? 

Six hours. Not even counting that first hour before the barricade went down. Longest six hours of his life.

He was starting to feel a little woozy and unsteady on his feet by the time he and Freddy found each other. Freddy gasped at the sight of him, and the sound reflexively made him look around wildly, expecting an attack. But the quiet halls were empty but for the two of them. 

“Gregory,” Freddy said urgently. “You are far more injured than I thought! We must get you medical care immediately.” 

Gregory blinked uncomprehendingly for a moment before looking down at himself and taking stock of his body for the first time in hours. He’d kinda had other, more important things on his mind, y’know?

The first thing he noticed were the bruises. He’d hit the deck more than once, either on purpose or from tripping, and his knees reflected that. They were dark and discolored. Lower, on his left leg, a trio of long gashes slashed diagonally down the front and curved around the back. They started to sting fiercely now that he’d noticed them. Monty had grabbed him there once, he remembered faintly. 

It was all a bit of a blur, to be honest. 

The sides of his upper arms and shoulders ached too, and he thought of how many times he’d taken a corner too fast, one animatronic or another hot on his tail, and the way he’d slammed into the walls before continuing on. On his back, the burn of another couple of cuts flared up; Chica had taken him by surprise at least twice. 

Shallow puncture wounds lined the top of his lower left arm from when he’d blocked Roxy’s teeth somewhere around 2 a.m. And both his right wrist and ankle throbbed with the pain of a sprain, probably from the one time the security guard had managed to grab him and yank him around and a fumbled jump down some stairs respectively. 

A full body ache buzzed through him, too—the result of running and lifting and pulling and pushing far too much, far beyond what his ten-year-old body was used to.

And his vision was admittedly a little blurry. A headache had started after the third time he’d had his head smacked into the floor by a pouncing Moon, so maybe he had a concussion on top of all the rest. 

The room was starting to spin, and Freddy was looking mightily concerned, which wasn’t an expression Gregory would have thought a robot capable of. Thoughts all tangled up around each other, he was suddenly desperate to reassure his protector that he was okay, honest, and they would look back on this night someday and laugh. 

He giggled now, tipped alarmingly to the side, and in a concussed attempt to alleviate Freddy’s worry and lighten the mood, Gregory enthusiastically declared, “Tis but a scratch!” 

Freddy made a noise of appalled disbelief, but if he said anything in response, Gregory didn’t hear it. He was too busy collapsing on the spot, thoroughly unconscious.

[the-solar-system52]

DAYCARE ATTENDANT IN HELP WANTED 2

FUCK YESSSS!! I REALLY THOUGHT RUIN WOULD BE SUN AND MOON'S LAST MAJOR APPEARANCE BUT NO!! NEW TRAILER IS OUT AND ITS TIME TO ANALYSE!!!

WE FINALLY GET TO DO ARTS AND CRAFTS WITH SUN!! This seems to be a puzzle mini game where you make Paper Pals!! I'm guessing, if you mess up the Paper Pal, you get jumpscared (probably by Moon) or it could be a time trail. It does seem weirdly DARK in the clip for Sun to still be here, but maybe that was intentional? Or not.

(those red doors seem to have lightbulbs on them, maybe there's a mechanic where we need to stop the lights from going out?)

Edit: I have even more evidence to suggest that the lights will be a feature in this minigame! In the one clip, if you slow it down, you can see the lights flicker and the screen you are using switch off!

I bet this is the electricity going out, and if that happens, Moon will jumpscare you! A lot of HW minigames have a "do this task but also stop this thing from happening so you don't get jumpscared" like the mangle vent repairs, so this makes sense!

NEXT UP WE GOT THE CAROUSEL MINIGAME! Not much to say about this one, since Dawko already uploaded him playing it, but this is significantly higher quality! Moons animation is different, and more things could change from the Dawko version considering the fact that it was only a playtest and wasn't finished yet. I'm very excited to play it!

(I hope they upload the carnival music in better quality if they release the soundtrack for the game. that shit SLAPS)

Ok so this is a weird one. We seem to be training the endo (who has a VR HEADSET on) with a moon-themed memory card game. At first, I thought this would be in the daycare because of the background, but in another clip, we see the camera pan over and we are actually in the daycare-themed room in the endo section all the way back in security breach!

Moon has always had a weird unexplained connection to the endos. Broken endo parts in his room, Moon merch and Daycare structures in the endo basement thing, and even evidence of a scrapped area of the endo section that Moon was supposed to appear in. (There was an unused soundtrack and unused animations, check out the Lost Bits YouTube video on SB for more info)

I'm excited to see if they will explain more as to why these connections are here. Is Vanny using Moon to train the endos to do her bidding? I dunno, but I'll be waiting to find out.

Last image i could find is this. It sure is a sun, dunno if its actually connected to Daycare Attendant Sun or not. The way this shot is framed makes it look like a dark ride?? That, or the player character has the weakest flashlight imaginable.

But if this IS Daycare Attendant related, then it'll most-likely be the intro for the Paper Pals minigame! Still, UNREASONABLY dark if this is a sun-centric minigame, there's no way the dark won't be part of the gameplay mechanic in this.

If anyone recognises this specific structure from anywhere in the pizzaplex please tell me!!

Edit: There's also this weird glitch-transition effect when it cuts to DJ Music Man, what's that about? Reminds me of the BB World Arcade Game a little bit.

Ending thoughts:

So before we get too excited, let's not forget about Help Wanted 1. The minigames were just that, MINIGAMES. They weren't even canon, and depending where this game takes place in the timeline, I don't think these are either.

I mean, these are DCA normal models! Where we left him in the story they were:

In their RUINED models.

And 2. Eclipse! And therefore non-hostile.

And even if this takes place BEFORE Ruin, how on Earth would Moon be at a CAROUSEL? In Help Wanted 1, the game was made-up by Fazbear Entertainment to make light of the rumours going around about Freddys, although they were based on real events, the Glamrocks aren't ACTUALLY in the Sister Location basements. I'm not saying there's NO truth to the minigames, but we shouldn't accept everything they tell us at face value.

BUT that doesn't mean we won't get ANY Daycare Attendant lore crumbs. Firstly, we may possibly get voicelines in the minigames, if they don't decide to just reuse old ones.

Secondly, it's possible this game will have something similar to the Help Wanted 1 Tapes. Secrets outside of the minigames that tell us more about the canon lore! Bonnie, The Glamrocks, DCA, and other loose ends from SB may be mentioned through these secrets!

Thirdly, what I just said may be made more likely if the "we play as Cassies dad" theory is true. If Cassie takes after her dad in having sympathy for the animatronics (which I think she does) then he will probably have something to say about all the stuff Fazbear Entertainment has done to the animatronics. Especially since he WORKS there.

EITHER WAY I AM SO INSANELY EXCITED!! Unfortunately, it comes out on December 14th and I won't be able to play it till Christmas so TAG YOUR SPOILERS EVERYONE!!!

[fireemblems24]

Azure Gleam - Special Chapters

Spoilers for the special chapters below.

SHEZ VS BYLETH

I didn't get the special chapter for SB or GW. SB, I just straight up did not care. GW, I tried, but it involved an "escort Claude" part and he just sat there and didn't move forward, and I didn't care enough to bother with the chapter a second time.

Shez sounds like Arval. Did Arval take Shez over? I'm guessing to go after Sothis?

Oh, cut scene! Shez vs Byleth again.

Byleth holding his own against Arval!Shez. Good to see. Shez is trying to hold Arval back though.

So . . . if we kick out Arval out in these chapters, does Shez loose their abilities/special class, because no :(((((

Felix, Dedue, and Dimitri are worrying about Shez and Byleth (also, awesome to see all my favs). Rodrigue has news about what happened.

Scouts report that Byleth and Shez are fighting. Felix accuses that Dimitri suspected this.

Dimitri tells how Shez worried that TWSITD would take over her. And Dimitri's promise to kill Shez to stop her from killing others.

Oh, we cut straight to the battle and have to defeat Shez. Makes sense. I'm guessing do it before Byleth dies?

My Shez is, eh, a bit stronger than Byleth, so I'm a bit worried. But Dimitri's such an overkill at this point, he's just going to blaze through this chapter like he did the last one.

It's weird not having Shez among my playable characters. I'm using Jeralt instead of Shez for my missing 8th person because he's the highest level (and I can't use Byleth either so).

Edelgard is around somewhere? Claude showed up to hunt her down.

My Byleth is like 10 levels below Shez. It's not going well.

Atrocity is one hell of a drug. Took Shez out.

Defeating Solon feels good. Got a cut scene too. He just ran away though. Wait, Arval/Shez killed Solon? Ohhh, like Solon killed Kyrona. A sacrifice is needed to open Zaharas. Karma I guess.

Claude and Dimitri talking is kinda cool. And weird Edelgard showed up. It's so amusing to me that they wrote themselves into such a corner with Edelgard they just yeeted her brain lamo.

ZAHRAS

Arval is talking to Arval.

Dark Arval created Normal Arval because Dark Arval wanted typical TWSITD nonsense, domination, restore the world to TWSITD, etc . . .

And in the most shocking twist, Normal Arval is programmed to kill Sothis, so therefore Byleth, and while Arval took over Shez.

Oh, Shez woke up! And Claude's there with Dimitri.

So they all got sent to this Zahras place.

Shez doesn't have a lot of memory of what just happened, and tells Claude and Dimitri about Arval, who's gone though.

Now they have to find a way out of this mess.

Dimitri found Edelgard. Since there's like 4 people, no one plans on fighting each other until they get out. Then it's time to kill people.

So Edelgard doesn't remember what happened and got some spell cast on her by TWSITD.

Claude cheerily tells her what a fuck up her country is lamo.

There's this mini map with the 3 lords just standing there, chilling, in this dark abyss place. It's pretty funny looking.

All my other units are gone, but I expected that. Dimitri's my most overpowered unit anyways.

DIMITRI & CLAUDE

Is this like some kind of support?

So AG Claude wants to get rid of the central church and kill Rhea. Like, I'm down for removing any sort of political power from a religious institution, but this fixation on Rhea is weird.

Lamo, is this game serious? Did it really just blame nobility and arrange marriage on Rhea?? OMG.

I knew Claude went completely dodo bird in this game, but he somehow became even more of an idiot?

I'm kind of impressed lol.

He drank the Edelgard koolaide.

Dimitri's like, well, as long as you just dislike the church and not Faerghus.

It's interesting for Dimitri to acknowledge that his personal beliefs and his beliefs as a king are sometimes at war.

He also lays out why Claude's plan is an awful idea. Meaning, all the death and suffering he'll cause.

It's just a classic, Claude is too rash - Dimitri is too cautious.

Claude tells Dimitri that he's too good for him. And that they could've been friends if kingly stuff didn't get in the way.

It's overall a fine support, except this absurd idea that the church is solely responsible for stuff human nature always comes up with, and I think it's more a symptom of a huge flaw in the Fodlan games as a whole than anything else.

DIMITRI & EDELGARD

Dimitri finds it hard to talk to Edelgard because of all the people she's caused the death of. But way more polite.

Edelgard doesn't feel that way. Which, not surprised. She doesn't really care too much about the people who've died like he does.

Lamo, she also is way less polite and is like "you don't want to talk to the tyrant who's gotten everyone killed." See, though, it's acknowledgements like this that make me like this game more. She knows that's what she looks like to everyone not in Adrestia.

Dimitri gets annoyed with her for placing words in his mouth. And good for him. That's always annoying.

Edelgard is less confident than Dimitri that he has no regrets of his actions and carefully considered all of them.

Oh, good, Dimitri asks about Patricia. But Edelgard doesn't know what happened either. So, still no answers about her.

Dimitri wants to just end the conversation. I am loving how much he really doesn't want to talk to her. It's so different from Claude who he was curious about.

She falls down because dark magic place does it's thing, then helps her stand up, and they get a picture, which is cool.

It reminds her of when she fell once and took the help without thinking about it. Now she thinks about it.

Dimitri remembers helping a girl up.

I see where this is going, but it's funny such a mundane thing will trigger important memories, lamo.

Edelgard is like, yeah, knowing you, you probably helped a lot of people get up who fell down.

I'm living for these supports acknowledging that Dimitri's a way better person than the other two lol.

He's like, naw, it was you. Edelgard keeps insisting it wasn't her.

He calls her El at the end.

Is this the same support in SB? It works for AG, but man, this asshole just killed Sylvain (and Annette, and Gilbert, and Ingrid, and Rodrigue, and tons of other people from Faerghus simply bc she wants that land back), so I'd be furious seeing it there.

In AG, though, it makes sense.

BACK TO THE CHAPTER

Dimitri's the only one who asks about Shez's wellbeing. Does their dialogue change in different routes?

Oh, cool, I had some access to stuff like the blacksmith, which makes no sense, but ok.

Bad Arval showed up behind Shez, but she alludes it.

Arval says none can escape. But I doubt it.

Dimitri's like, that's bullshit, bc there's no way they'd build this without a way out, and if they can get out, so can we.

And then Dimitri's proved right when Arval says he'll leave, alone.

Ok, I learned this other Arval's name, but I am not going to spell all of that.

So like, after this, do they all just go back to war? Because if they do . . . lol.

They let you use all the 3 lords, but I'll probably only use Shez and Dimitri. Neither Edelgard nor Claude impressed me much when I started this game (and at the time I started, I liked Claude a lot more than I do now).

Oh, so a dark Hubert, Hilda, and Felix showed up. A bit sad it wasn't Dedue, though. I feel like he deserved to be the BL rep even if Felix is more popular. But maybe it was for variety? Like Dedue is another axe like Hilda, but then switch Claude's people out.

At the same time, Felix makes sense, esp in Hopes. He and Dimitri are practically married lol.

Dimitri's like, that's not Felix. He wouldn't get mad at me for doing this and not avenging people. He's not wrong.

Ohhh, not they're fighting phantom versions of themselves.

They had some throwaway lines explaining why Edelgard is normal now.

Lamo, Edelgard doesn't trust herself.

Meanwhile . . . Dimitri . . . is like, really excited about this. Because he gets to kill a version of himself. :((((

Claude's line wasn't as interesting as the other two. I know. Shocking. /s

Dimitri wants to thank Arval for letting him fight and kill himself. I cannot with this man.

Evil Claude just about totaled regular Claude. Edelgard isn't scratched though.

Edelgard and Claude were way more normal about reactions to fighting themselves lol.

I had to make Claude an adjunct. He was nearly dead. It's actually surprising how much worse he is than Edelgard. (Dimitri's not fair to rate against them since he's more built out and not dropped into this map for a one-time battle).

Ok, he summoned more dudes to protect him, and one was a Shez copy the other Dedue. So Dedue got credit too. So now I'm less conflicted about Felix making an appearance.

Shez is upset at fighting herself.

Dimitri feels awful about fighting the shades this time. He's only motivated by all the people he's kept alive in real life.

I defeated Epimedes. That seemed too easy.

Cut scene fight between Shez and Epi. It's pretty badass looking in the dark magic place with falling rocks everywhere. Like, in a cheesy but just roll with it way.

Shez wins. Arval pops back up and they almost hold hands. Arval's never felt more alone :( Honestly, kinda sad things end badly for them. So not recruiting Byleth gives Arval a better ending? Will Arval not be there in the final map before the final battle?

They escaped!

Dimitri's like "it felt like a strange fever dream" and honestly, not a bad way to describe it.

They lost Edelgard and are we back to the normal stuff? Oh, no Shez asks to go back to the search for her and the others. Claude wants to get back to his people too.

Ok, so moving onto the final chapter now.

xxx

[an-archaic-archivist]

I don't think Vanny was ever intended to be anything special by SteelWool

"But the teaser trailer had her talking in it!" It's very common for trailers to have dialogue made specifically for them. Hell, both Ruin and Help Wanted 2 did this in their trailers. They summarize the plot of the game. The original SB teaser did the same. Just less openly. Kid is trapped in the Pizzaplex and is being hunted with Freddy protecting him. I don't think the plot of SB changed as much as a lot of people think it did. It was just being formed slowly and shown to us in an abstract and arguably deceitful way. "But what about all of Vanny's unused animations?" Most of those are alternative walking and running animations. The only stand out is the one that depicts her crawling.

I guess this could have been used, but it was likely replace by the mini music men to add to the claustrophobic nature of the vents. "But what about that Glitchtrap voice at the start of the "Gameplay" trailer?" Again, that sort of thing is very common for trailers. To have audio specifically made to entice the audience. That's what a trailer is for. To make the product it's advertising look as good as possible. Disregarding the hype surrounding Vanny, A new trailer will almost always put a new character front and center. That's just basic marketing. To push the shiny new thing as hard as it can. The trailer audio didn't give us much new info anyway. It was just doubling down on what we already knew. That Glitchtrap was manipulating Vanny. Neither of them were ever meant to have that many voice lines. Hell, there's even an unused voice line of Gregory making fun of her catchphrase because of just how much she says it.

You ever notice how most of the shots that feature Vanny in those two "gameplay" trailers are long, straight and mostly featureless corridors aside from some bright red lights?

That's because they were made just for the trailers. They were made to show Vanny off and nothing more. They were never meant to be in the final game. It seems like for whatever reason, Fnaf wants nothing to do with her. Ruin canonizes an ending where she's less likely to be an antagonistic force in any potential future appearances, Tales from the Pizzaplex doesn't even mention her, and Help Wanted 2 seems to double down on her not being around anymore by showing her literally waving goodbye to the player.

I'm half convinced that the only reason the PQ ending was picked as the canon one over the clearly originally canon Burntrap ending was just so they could write Vanessa/Vanny out of the story.

Not only is the tone from the PQ ending very upbeat compared to Ruin, while the Burntrap ending would feel like a much more natural continuation going into Ruin given that we straight up see part of the Pizzaplex collapsing. Plus, part of why the PQ ending is the happiest is that all the animatronics are freed from Glitchtrap, but what did freeing them actually accomplish? All of them except for Roxy have completely lost themselves and gone insane. All Chica can think about is food even after she gets her voice back, Eclipse doesn't even recognize Cassie and thinks the abandoned Pizzaplex will be "flooded with kids," and Monty has gone feral.

So yeah. The only real hope I have left of Vanny making a come back is her somehow showing up in the fnaf movie or that Vanny graffiti in Ruin meaning that she's gonna come back, but otherwise, I'm just not having a good time man.

[mushramoo]

Ranting on Ruin below! (Spoilers!!!!)

First of all, omg I love the mask design and how steel wool went more linear in light of the criticism from Security breach!!!! Ruin makes me wanna play SB again so bad. Also why didn’t gregory try harder to tell Cassie he wasn’t in the pizza plex!!!! All he had to do was get a signal and tell her AUGH. But Cassie is best girl and I want her and Roxy to escape and be best friends and punch gregory in the face. (I still love him tho) like if gregory gets a dad Cassie should get a mom. I love them so so so so much but also WHY DO WE KEEP ADDING STUFF FROM THE BOOKS AND NOT EXPLAINING IT 😭😭😭😭. But yeah I think all the animatronics are secretly good, they’ve been hacked or some shit because ain’t no way freddy and Roxy are the only ones who are friendly, I think maybe we will get more dlc or games to explore chica, monty, and Bonnie. That’s the only way I can see them exploring the idea. Cos like was it vanny who hacked them or Gregory??? But gregory is with Vanessa now so??? I’m thinking maybe it’s glitchtrap and they just need to be talked to??? Idk but I’m waiting on fusion to upload another video, he just found a chica beak EQUIPMENT!!! Not collectible!!! From a mini game!!!

[uno-in-the-clouds]

I have. So many thoughts about Sun in help wanted 2. Not bad ones at all, just a lot thoughts. (Spoilers ahead for HW2 and a little from Ruin) also this is a long one, so buckle up

Aight, so I have not watched a lot of gameplay of the Arts and Crafts minigame, bc I would have simply been way too excited to even stand still and not get overwhelmed by pure joy. BUT I have listened to his voice lines in the game (via YouTube)

After listening to all of them, I got three main thoughts (and a bonus thought about Moon)

One, holy smokes he is a freaking savage (and even more of one once I discovered that apparently his line “It speaks to me!” Was actually NOT him complimenting you genuinely and he actually immediately shreds your work in front of you after saying that, and I’m dying of laughter here FHSGGFGDJDJG)

Two, I’m like, actually kinda happy that there’s this side to Sun? Like, it gives more nuance to his personality overall. And I think has been a part of him from the start, back in the main security breach game? We just haven’t been shown it much. Maybe not much of his sassiness, but I’m also thinking about his temper. Like, sun was really pissed at Gregory at the end of the daycare mission, to the point that he bans the poor kid. And there’s also that one cut voice line of his that goes “I’M PUTTING YOU IN TIME OUT!” And it’s in a really angry voice, unlike moon surprisingly, despite both of them sharing this one line. And then there’s also that one fazwatch about how moon practically traumatized kids enough that they’re scared to sleep with the lights off, but when the lights turn on, the kid straight up wets themself. Which implies that not only has Moon terrified kids, but so has Sun as well. And if we’re really supposed to be a kid in the arts and crafts minigame, then i think we found the context for that part of the message. I feel bad for that kid.

I’ve kinda kept in mind for a while that Sun is not always so patient and uh, kind. And I kinda like that since then it’s easier to write him In certain different situations. And this revelation from HW2 honestly validates the way I’ve written him in my own AU, and oh boy is this gonna fun!(no sarcasm) (I not gonna elaborate on that point bc it’s not the focus of this post, tho im happy to talk about my AU if anyone wants to know more)

Three: I genuinely wonder if we’re specifically playing as a kid, an adult (maybe a staff member) or, as I’ve heard from other people’s theories, we might be playing as a possessed staff bot?? I feel like the first idea might be likely since there’s a voice line from sun in the minigame, where he says that we (the player) are gonna be in timeout until our parents come to pick us up. However, I’ve only seen the beginning of the minigame, and only know the rest through listening to voice lines. So I don’t have much context for the voice line and I could very well be wrong.

Bonus thought: I’ve heard that Moon appears a lot in other mini games compared to other characters, including Sun. But despite that I really can’t get a good read on his personality besides either him being a silly yet unnerving boogie man (SB and HW2) , and literally in aggressive pain(Ruin) and probably a softie but we really haven’t seen him act that way, only just read/seen it second hand, like his moondrop posters and one description from Cassie in Ruin. Again it could be bc I haven’t seen much of the new game and only heard voice lines from one of his mini games, but I’m really not sure.

Aight that sums it all up. This game is really good.

[redtoondevils]

I don't think that Vanessa really is a bad person in SB.

I don't think that Vanessa really is a bad person in SB. If anything, Gregory is showing himself to be a troublemaker. Then that of Cassie. I mean, yes she had quite the attitude on her.

And she treated Gregory with dis respect, and kind of abusive. That she locked him in, in her office, and gone to get changed into the Vanni suit, to stalk him. Likely, to spook him.

Still does not make it okay. Yet, on the other hand, she is doing her job. And she must of been a good police officer, especially how she appeared in the movie.

By the looks of things, she wasn't bad. She genuinely looked like a good woman, and is helpful. And eventually, we find out, that she has problems. A lot of people have problems of course.

In SB, she was helpful. Like the DCA, she has a dark side. Only difference is, is that she's human. So far, with what's happened in the main game, with the virus.

It also brings the worst out of them, too. And put it this way, let's reverse the roles between Vanessa and Gregory.

What if she really was on the lookout for Gregory, because of what he might be up to? Gregory is a strange kid, you'll find out that he's homeless as the end.

There's not much background for him, and his situation is sad. But the things that he can do, to get what he wants. He can manipulate that. He once baited Chica into the crusher.

And rammed Roxy with the go cart. Even though, the animatronics were on persuit with this boy. But, he still taken care of them, by his own hands. (Even if it's no other choice kind of thing.) He will do it, and he's going to do it brutally.

Overall, he is a complicated child. But, he will do things, even if it means to destroy the property. It's kinda scary for a kid to do.

There are motives of him, that are not clear as of yet. When he asks you what to, some of his requests are a little odd. How far can we trust this kid? I know, you would be referring him as the Mimic, that it was him that lured Cassie in.

That wasn't Gregory. I'm talking about, how he first met Vanessa. When he said, "No! No. I don't trust her!" there's a question. Why, doesn't he trust her?

She didn't do anything wrong to him, from the beginning as of yet. She did alert the other animatronics. But maybe, you got to ask. Perhaps she didn't know they were under control?

As Vanny, I thought that she was the master mind over every animatronic. From the base game. But then, when more games has been released showing more material about Vanny.

And also, with the Princess Quest mini game. It turns out, at the end of those comics that Vanny is also victimized too. I thought that she was all out psycho.

When Vanny has been revealed, as Vanessa by Gregory in the SB comics. It looks like, she looks just as scared, and confused just like Gregory.

And how she appeared at the arcade box, with the Glitch trap in her hand. And she squished him, and she was really large. What is Interesting with this Villain. Vanessa isn't really an all out villain.

It's like in a way metaphorically, that Vanny has been under control, and been through manipulation with Glitch trap. (I think.) That she's been looking for revenge for quite some time, and she finally got it.

And when she waved at the player. Stright away, you'll get both Impressions. She waved to you like to say, 'Good job. And I'll see you later!" Or "Finally! You found him for me! He's gone, goodbye I'm free now!" And Vanny is gone.

If that is correct, then there is a possible chance. That Vanny, as Vanessa is actually not bad. And was pretending to be evil, because Glitch trap was corrupting her. It isn't safe to say that she was Innocent.

She wouldn't after being reported of stealing kids. But, it is something to know that she is a villain, that has childlike lore about her. And finding out, that she had also been used.

[darthpastry]

There's no way all the mini games in HW2 take place at the same time, right? By the time the game is played by BonnieBro, it's obviously in-between SB and Ruin, but not all the mini games take place in that same timeframe. Which, I suppose is a bit obvious given the Pizzaplex isn't absolutely destroyed in all of them, but I do want to talk about all the wonky timeline stuff going on. Well, not all. Just a couple mini games, really.

The Foxy ride is an interesting one, might not actually be a ride that ever physically existed. The idea of it is well established, since we know that Cassie knows of it, but I think the one she 'rode' was a VR version. If a version of it did exist, I would wager that it was during Fall Fest, or at the very least originated. It might sound crazy, but here me out.

Fall Fest has been pretty heavily emphasized in both VR games, despite (as far as I know) not mentioned outside of them. This poster in particular is interesting, as Foxy is at the forefront. So, why emphasize Foxy when Foxy isn't even in the Pizzaplex? More importantly, why does Captain Foxy look more like his Fall Fest version than classic version?

The long coat is something seen only in these two versions. Normally he just has the pants. I'm not saying just having the coat is evidence, I'm saying it's strange to have a depiction of Fall Fest with Foxy in the long coat at the forefront whenever you win a mini game.

More importantly, let's talk about Jack-O-Moon.

As someone who doesn't care much for the DCA, this guy is so important to the lore, I promise. One could call it something of a secret boss, bonus boss, really, on the log ride. The areas of the log ride it appears in are vastly different than the rest of the log ride. Even Jack-O-Moons design has more of a Fall vibe. Maybe... a Fall Fest vibe? That also has purple glitches and if done correctly gets you the Foxy plush?

This vital area to getting the better ending of the game hammers home the idea of Fall Fest. Also supports the idea that the DCA has been around for quite a while.

I remember someone posting some close-up pictures of it and it just had a horrible paint job, so this would have to be fairly early on, given how clean and expensive everything is in SB. Heck, even the merchandise they sell is pretty sick when you remember the FazWatch is just a novelty toy. Also, that Mr. Hippo magnet. Which is one of the small details I want to talk about eventually. Yes, they're established to be very cheap, but appearance is important, and they make sure it doesn't look cheap.

Why are these areas hidden, different? Perhaps Glitchtrap made these secret areas to show what the original log ride looked like. What the Fall Fest version looked like.

The other wonky one I wanted to talk about rq is the endo warehouse.

Basic game, right? Memory game. Try not to get killed by endoskeletons. But there's one line that HandUnit says that stuck out to me as odd.

"or TBD Pizzaplex star". What do you mean, "TBD"? It's well established that the stars are Freddy, Chica, Roxy, and Monty. Before Monty was Bonnie. That's that, no questions asked.

The only logical solution was that this recorded (in-universe) before Roxy and Monty. So why no mention of Bonnie? Maybe he was cut out because when he was destroyed but they just never added in Roxy and Monty? It still feels weird. Maybe an accident had always been planned by Glitchtrap, before the Pizzaplex was even built. Which does feel weird, and I will die on the hill that Monty destroyed Bonnie, but there has to be a reason for Bonnie to be excluded.

Still, the fact that only Freddy and Chica were always set in stone as the stars is an interesting little detail to me. If they were too cheap to put in Monty and Roxy, then they would've been too cheap to cut out Bonnie. Foxy is another post of their own.

[mittenslikescats]

Major spoilers for fnaf Ruin

Did anyone else here think it was kinda obvious that the ‘Gregory’ asking for help in the sink hole in the Pizzaplex clearly wasn’t Gregory but was actually the Mimic. Like throughout Ruin you’ve just got Gregory whining and complaining being like ‘save me Cassie’ and practically begging for help. That’s already a huge red flag cus we know Gregory from SB. Gregory went around hunting and decommissioning Chica, Roxy and Monty just to get their special parts to upgrade Freddy. 

He was at one point actively hunting the animatronics down and now here ‘he’ is in Ruin whining to Cassie to set him free. If it really was Gregory down there then he’d probably be trying to get up himself and would likely run into Cassie in the Pizzaplex. 

Not to mention the other factors that point towards the fact that Gregory escaped the Pizzaplex. Like we know for a fact that the Princess quest ending is the canon ending to SB and we see that Gregory escapes the Pizzaplex (with Vanessa and the head of Freddy) and when collecting the comic pages the only one that doesn’t have a page is the Princess quest ending. Also the sword used in the Princess quest mini game is shown sticking out of the third Princess Quest arcade game. Like if it doesn’t get any more obvious I don’t know what does. 

To be honest ‘Gregory’ was very out of characters throughout Ruin which for me was a major red flag. Like this kid isn’t a wuss and yet the ‘Gregory’ aka the mimic pretending to be him, in the basement was acting like a huge wuss begging Cassie to ‘save him’. 

I do feel bad for Cassie though she clearly cares a lot about Gregory and the Mimic used that to manipulate her into setting it free. Not cool Mimic dude not cool.

[mythicaldemigoddess-of-deltarune]

FNAF Theory: Cassie's Father Was Springlocked And Became Burntrap...

[Note: Reading This Theory Is Optional, also spoilers will be mentioned from the FNAF Movie. but will talk about the theory about Cassie's Father. this will be for Mature Audience Readers Only. also do NOT reblog this without permission.]

it is possible that Cassie's Dad never came home after leaving her a note, which could possibly be that note we find when we are wearing that Security Mask that looks like Vanny.

Cassie's Father is likely The Bully that had on The Bonnie Mask, and were friends with Michael Afton/Bully Who Wears The Foxy Mask.

the friends of Michael Afton, likely tried to change and no longer be like what they were when the accident happen at Fredbear's Diner.

it could be possible that each of Michael's friends, ended up losing their lives while working at The Mega Pizzaplex or half of them did so when working at The Old Pizzeria.

if the other former bullies also had children, besides Cassie's Father & Gregory's Father...

then the other children who could be friends with Cassie, but didn't go to her party because their parents stop them because of the disappearances that were happening...

the bully that wears the Freddy Mask, could of been the elder brother of Charlie Emily.

each of the bullies that were involved in the bite of 83, and got jobs at the Mega Pizzaplex maybe as early as 202X.

each of them could of had their remnant and memories placed into Glamrock Foxy, Bonnie, Chica and Freddy.

I still can't seem to get to the place where Glamrock Bonnie is suppose to be in the Ruin DLC, it seems to be difficult at the moment, but at least I was able to get the Scooper Ending in my first time beating that FNAF-SB's Ruin DLC.

for all we know, the Glamrock Bonnie that looks destroyed, could be a Prototype, and it lets The Real Glamrock Bonnie along with Foxy, to fake their "deaths" so they can move around the Pizzaplex and turn off the cameras so they wont be found out.

even if Cassie's Father had been Springlocked when ending up in the old Spring Bonnie's suit, his remnant and memories possibly went into the Glamrock Bonnie, who was his favorite.

half of him was still trapped in the Spring Bonnie suit, while the other half was trapped in Glamrock Bonnie.

the room that we find in the mini-game, where the Purple-Guy is cornered by the ghost children, and ends up trying to hide in a Spring Bonnie suit....it is possible that that was NEVER William Afton, that it may have been Cassie's Father who was trying to help free the ghosts of those children, only for them to mistake him for someone else.

the three machines in that room, were likely The Princess Quests 1, 2 & 3.

William Afton could of still ended up being springlocked, but it was in a different location.

there could be different types of dark secrets yet to be revealed about the FNAF Timeline.

that blonde ghost boy from the FNAF Movie, is suspicious.

he is likely a bit more powerful than the other ghost children, and he likely went to get the man who was known as "William Afton".

I can't help but find that ghost boy very suspicious, and he isn't as innocent as he appears to be. in theory, it was him that may have talked the other ghost children into trying to make Abby into one of them.

because of the strong influence that the ghost boy who controls Golden Freddy has on the other ghost children, he is able to corrupt them and make them agree without questioning what they are doing is wrong.

if the FNAF Movie's Timeline also took place in the same world as FNAF-SB's Timeline, then the animatronics that are seen in the FNAF Movie could be moved to the Pizzaplex after it is fully rebuild and fixed.

they could end up being kept in a different part of the pizzaplex, like a storage location until they can be moved to a more permanent location for them.

Vanessa Shelly and Vanessa A. could be two different people, and for all we know, it could of been Vanessa Shelly who was Vanny this whole time.

the story that was being told by the Candy-Cadet, is possibly about Gregory and Vanessa, and the monster could be the mimic...

the mimic might of not of been the first one to lure Cassie to the Pizzaplex, and it might of been Gregory the whole time.

when Cassie was wearing the mask, some of her memories were likely being projected, both her best and worst moments.

one of the best memories was her bonding with Roxy,

and one of her worst moments was when no one came to her birthday party, and while it might seem Gregory was part of the best memories that comfort her, but there could be more to meets the eye to it and he may have been the reason why her friends didn't show up in the first place.

even if we do try to do a Pacifist Route in FNAF-SB, where Gregory doesn't harm the other Glamrocks and take their upgrades and give them to Freddy...

the true timeline that leads to the Ruin's Future events, will always be where Gregory took their upgrades and gave them to Freddy.

so no matter if we choose to not take the other Glamrocks own upgrades or if we do take them anyway, in Ruin DLC the outcome will always be with Gregory taking their upgrades.

the mini-games could be stories that are being told through Arcade games that are in the Pizzaplex, and the stories could be memories from the remnant taking from their original sources.

which would mean that the mini-game that shows the Crying Child, are made up of memories of the remnant that came from the Crying Child.

remnant could hold copies of the memories of the original person that it came from, the soul that owns that remnant will either be together or separate in the same or different vessel.

Cassie's Father who was likely the Bonnie Masked Bully in his Youth, his Soul may have became trapped in the Spring Bonnie Suit, while his remnant that had a copy of his memories ended up becoming a part of Glamrock Bonnie.

we could think of parts of Cassie's Father was cleaved into different places, one of them being with the original body that would become Burntrap, the other became a part of Glamrock Bonnie.

and another would end up becoming Mxes with no memories of who he originally was but only that he needed to keep Cassie from freeing the Mimic, he could have no memories of Cassie so he might not feel anything when placing Cassie in some form of danger when calling either Chica or Monty or Roxy to where she is.

but if the Mxes did have some part of the remnant that came from Cassie's Father, then it might take time for some of those memories and emotions to appear in Mxes if it ends up being brought back.

Cassie's Father likely found out about what happen to the Missing Children and the Missing Therapist, and tried to free them.

the ones he wanted to start with freeing was the children, but something went wrong when they tried to do this and it ended up causing him to try to hide in a Spring Bonnie suit and he would end up becoming trapped and not going back home to Cassie.

Glamrock Bonnie could have the Remnant of Love, Burntrap could have the Remnant of Determination or Perseverance and Mxes may have some of the Remnant that make up Justice.

if this theory proves to be true, and Cassie found out, the truth might end up hurting her and even finding out that Gregory knew what happen to her father and never told her.

we only know very little about Cassie's Father, we know that he worked at the Pizzaplex and he had a Faz-Wrench.

and the possibility that he and the Bonnie Mask Bully are one in the same person.

some fans have already theorized this, possibly from Cassie talking about how Bonnie was her Father's Favorite.

for all we know, there was always going to be some plot twists that had to do with some hidden secrets that would be later revealed as the story of the FNAF Game progressed.

Gregory could turn out to be the son of the Freddy Mask Bully, who might of not been a very good person and may have a dark secret about them, seeing as their mas was the only one that didn't show those white pupils like the Bullies who wear the Foxy, Chica and Bonnie Masks.

the one who might be deeper linked to what happens around the Pizzaplex and even at the other locations, might be Gregory's Possible Father who was The Freddy Mask Bully.

Gregory might be working with The Freddy Mask Bully, who's true name is unknown but for all we know, he could be a Emily or Afton.

it could be possible that the Foxy Bully and The Crying Child, may be a Afton but they could also be a Schmidt.

the Foxy Mask Bully could be Mike Schmidt, while the Freddy Mask Bully could be Michael Afton or Michael Emily.

both William Afton and Henry Emily, could of both named their sons Michael, and only one of them ends up going by the nicknames Mike and Mikey.

and the Michael that may have been working at the Sister Location, could of been Michael Emily and the one he was speaking to may have been Henry Emily, his Father...but then again that theory may end up being debunked and that's okay.

but Gregory could of been involved in Cassie's Father going missing and him ending up becoming a victim of the Sprinlocks.

we know there are some secrets about Gregory that might end up being revealed one piece at a time, just not fully all at once.

and for all we know, the theory about him being the son of the Freddy Mask Bully could be correct.

even if it might seem that the Mask-Bot might have the spirit of Cassie's Father, but it could be someone else who could of been close to Cassie's Father.

I might not have much to go by other than the stuff I already mentioned about the theory that Cassie's Father may be the Burntrap in the FNAF-SB's Games own Timeline, and parts of himself ended up separated, like both his Soul and Remnant may have stayed in the Burntrap, while other parts ended up becoming a part of Glamrock Bonnie and Mxes.

Gregory's Father "The Freddy Mask Bully" could of had his Soul and Remnant either end up in the Prototype Glamrock Freddy or the Real Glamrock Freddy.

Gregory might not be as innocent as he appears to be, even if we could keep him from doing any harm to Roxy, Chica and Monty but the True Timeline will always be where he ends up doing harm to them, no matter if we allow it to happen or not at the starting events that take place before Ruin.

for all we know, it might of not been Mxes that was calling Monty, Chica and Roxy to where Cassie was, and it may have been Gregory the whole time.

and Gregory could of been lying to Cassie and he was the one who was controlling the other Glamrocks and making them chase after her.

if we were able to give all the Glamrocks their upgraded parts back, like not just Chica's beak and voice-box...

but also Roxy's Eyes and Monty's claws & legs.

then that could be a interesting concept, maybe in another part of the FNAF Security Breach's story, where Cassie helps Roxy and Monty.

Monty being so aggressive like a feral animal, could be from the control that Gregory might have on him when making him go after Cassie.

there could be more to Gregory than meets the eye, and the only way he becomes "Good" is if the Player makes sure to not have him hurt Roxy, Monty and Chica and take their upgrades to use on Freddy.

but once again no matter if we choose a Paciest Route when playing FNAF Security Breach, Gregory in the Ruin's Future events will always end up hurting Freddy's friends and taken their upgrades.

Gregory could of been the one that caused Cassie's Father to end up as Burntrap, or him having knowledge of who caused it...

possibly being Henry Emily who caused Cassie's Father to become Burntrap.

for all we know, Henry Emily might be Gregory's Grandfather and it could also mean that Charlotte Emily is Gregory's Aunt.

Cassie could of been placed in Foster Care after her Father never came home, if it was just him and her.

or she may have been with her Mother the whole time after Cassie's Father went missing.

if Cassie's Father did end up becoming Burntrap and did try to free the ghost children, if the theory ends up being true then maybe it will be revealed in the future or maybe debunked.

not everyone has to agree about the theory, that Cassie's Father while trying to free the ghost children from the animatronics from the old location under the pizzaplex but only ended up becoming Burntrap and not being able to return to Cassie.

not all theories have to be correct and with how some theories are, and how some could end up being debunked, well the original fan theories that do end up being debunked can end up working in a Fanon Timeline...

not sure what else to say about the theory about Cassie's Father being mistaken for the "Purple-Guy" and even appearing as the Purple-Guy to both the Player and The Ghost Children, but it turning out it wasn't him but a man who will possibly never see his daughter again, or even if he did it would be what he had become and not the man he once was.

I can agree that Cassie's Father may be Bonnie Mask Bully, but it's okay that not everyone agrees that I believe that Cassie's Father might be Burntrap that is seen in FNAF Security Breach.

and that Gregory may have been involved in the accident that would cause Cassie's Father to become trapped in a Spring Bonnie Suit and then transforming into Burntrap...

[bunnysuitconman]

Who is Vanny ?

GREAT QUESTION! Vanny is both super interesting and we have so LITTLE TO WORK WITH

Okay so Vanessa/Vanny is kind of an interesting situation it's highly implied that she's the same tape girl you hear in Help Wanted and she "explains" how you can defeat glitchtrap but instead leads the player astray and glitchtrap supossedly locks you, or perhaps part of your mind behind that door, and gives the player a totem of himself, that little green glitchy springbonnie. supposedly do to with being able to communicate with him? In order to get some secret dialog you needed to wear the bunny mask from dreadbear and also hold the glitchtrap plush. while this came back in security breach it was just kind of touched upon in the princess quest mini game and wasn't really explored. It's the player reliving her actions so, it's curious. So, Vanessa in her previous job, in help wanted, she's doing the game development and testing. One of her co-workers actually met a pretty gnarly fate, driven mad by glitchtraps possibly first attempt at possessing someone. Jeremy, cut off his own face with a paper gillotine and went straight back to playing. Vanessa desribes it as "a halloween mask" and "spilt ink that covered the front of Jeremys tshirt" but he turned to face her before she toddled off to work so he was presumably still alive at that time before he bled out! it's really interesting to me that it might of been Glitchtrap already possessing him, or in an effort to save what was left of himself he killed himself with what was available to him because he knew glitchtraps intentions. When Jeremys duties fell to her she presumably caught on to what Jeremy saw and tried do delete glitchtrap to no avail, presumably It's generally agreed upon somewhere along the way she switched tactics from glitchtrap being attatched to her voice files and trying to sequester them so only beta testers would think to poke around in there, to straight claiming to being able to kill him but leading you to the endings where you merge with him. So she's either thought she could kill him in this act of desperation, tried it and got possessed or Glitchtrap intentionally made her explain something that leads to the players possession!

it's later shown in FNAF AR that Vanessa (now being nicknamed ness) is still working and this might overlap with the events or it's shortly after help wanted, Vanessa, or atleast Glitchtrap controling vanessa is triggering the flagging system because she's searching for disturbing things that could be gently explained away or atleast is by Luis from the IT team. not too too much is happening it's just glitchtrap either in her body or in the system on her account looking up alot of stuff. especially things like, torture! which maybe agony or remnant factors into it? agony is a book only concept that i'm not overtly familliar with. Remnant extraction though is one side, perhaps wanting to know how exactly objects get possessed he's seeking to understand more. who knows!

Somewhere along the way Vanessa gets a position at the security team dispite a lack of experiance, if i remember right internal messages in SB describe her interest in the position as odd. but eventually she's basically one of the few humans on the nightshift, or one of the few humans that works there period, fazcorp having pushed to replace majority of human staff with STAFF bots presumably to cut costs, and possibly even straight murdering a whole portion of the staff! since the staff meeting "party" looks like it's been trashed, in the place where endo's rome around. it Also gives Vanessa a whole lot of free range to do what the hell she likes, including somewhere along the way killing atleast 9 kids! You know we don't actually know much about what she was doing with Glitchtrap? which is one of the major failings of Security breach, Burntrap was just down in the basement, she even had her own set up there with a bed! we're just left to think that she's been wringing out these kids to, feed him maybe? continue his legacy? Vanny is supposedly hacking into these bots and taking control of the pizza plex to, possibly rebuild burntrap? who knows if it's a design feature or not but i do find it an interesting aspect that burntrap might possibly be a bit of a ship of theasus in that he has aspects like nightmare claws that he wouldn't previously have, casing that doesn't belong to him. I'm kind of a fan of the idea he was going to "take over" Glamrock bonnie before things went astray somehow. people love the theroy that bonnie fought back, it's implied that all of the bots were under some kind of programming that brought them down to the basement! they all may have participated in those murders! and, vanny just kind of peters out a little? she appears now and then in the game but she isn't much of an actual threat. Vanessa doesn't do much either, there are nixed onesided conversations that i love, and she has some absolutely unhinged unused animations, she could of been a fantastic stalker character thoughout the game but they couldn't get her working.

it's more than likely that Vanny in SB as it is doesn't have much agency over her actions given what we're shown, while previously she was the reluctant follower who seeminly went along with things convincing herself it'll be "fun" supposedly not yet having killed, she's graduated to full mind domination were she doesn't have much agency over her actions and supposedly it's more william afton in Vanessas body than Vanessa having a secondary persona in Vanny i don't really know how to feel about it honest, i like her being reluctant but still getting dragged further inwards into this horrible plan even though i haven't an idea what glitchtrap wants to do other than be inside of other people. I can deal with a partial posession deal of Glitchtrap borrowing her body i would just like it to be more, developed! There is also this element that i partially like to incorperate that is more tangential but because Vanessa is searching all of these disturbing terms, she gets sent to corperate therapy and i'm still a beliver that it's all Vanessa, i don't know how the idea that it's both vanessa and gregory alternating and gregory is a kid hacker holds up and what is were, there might be book lore there i don't know. But the therapy discs state that Vanessa had participated in a divorce court case where she was coached by her dad to testify against her mother, and this was rather traumatic for her, she's consistantly shown as more, shrinking and soft spoken in these tapes that she wants to be a good girl. "I can't talk about this. He said he would always be watching. He could be here or there or anywhere in between" in cd 11, and the therapist is connecting it to her father when we can glean it's really about glitchtrap, and Vanessa explains that she's "compartmentalized him. He's locked away." like she's trying her best to manage and damp down him for Glitchtrap to only leak out in ways she doesn't understand. She's making her bunny costume in that same tape. I personally like to say that glitchtrap is actively using his own memories of his messy divorce and possible court proceedings and coaching of elizabeth to testify against her own mother. Vanny being this replacement for elizabeth, a favourite child, his daughter, Baby showed this malicious intent, both wanting to murder william for leaving her and also this, strange idolization of her father. Maybe william desires that back? hard to say. i like a father daughter dynamic between them in any case! Anyway, vanessas therapists keep on dying. like she burns though five of them and they keep getting mangled. I'm of the opinion that the tapes that we don't hear vanessas voice may be her possessed. the very last tape may even have her murdering her therapist there and then after she's confronted that the therapist had found out that she lived a relatively normal life and her parents are still together because william doesn't want his programming breaking. All in all, i love vanessa/vanny, she's seriously fantastic but she's also SO underused that the broadness of her character in SB is really unfortunate.

Also it's kind of weird that in the PQ ending or the burntrap ending where she's released from glitchtrap she's kind of, instantly forgiven in the narritive, you did some shit girl go to jail

[ponds-of-ink]

Far-Fetched MXES “Theory”/Detail Compliation: The Ruin-Born Meme is Possibly Right?

No, this isn’t supposed to be clickbait. The meme seriously might be correct if a few weird details I’ve seen from different sources line up.

Firstly, which is the weirdest clue, his chin.

Yes. His chin. We are really going to use this as possible evidence. (Thank the first person to discover this, by the way. Couldn’t have made this post with ‘em.)

Because, if you look at Springtrap and Scraptrap...

They have this shared “cleft chin” of sorts that isn’t hard to miss once you notice. Unless you’re me, who keeps forgetting to include it in my human William designs.

Meanwhile, with Glitchtrap and Burntrap...

They (unsurprisingly, depending on who you ask) don’t.

But, for reasons that are completely unknown to me, MXES has that chin the other modern-day Afton-suspects lack.

..Not the best image of it I could find, but yes that is a cheft chin.

Keep in mind that I’m not sure why exactly this detail is in this design. I’d say “Oh it’s to throw veterans in for a bigger loop when they play Ruin for the first time”, but I don’t think William’s cleft chin has been brought up much? Correct me if I’m wrong there.

My only other guess is that it’s supposed to be a hint towards MXES and William being more directly connected somehow. Though obviously nothing’s settled as concrete yet, here’s a bit more food for thought... if you’re still with me, that is.

Secondly, MXES’ Beta Design (or Ruin-Born himself, if the meme nickname makes more sense), actually kind of lines up with William’s appearance in the Fazbear Frights books. Both were tall, skeletal semi-rabbits/semi-human.. A shame that’s where the similarities seem to end, because any more descriptors from the book would’ve solidified this as proper evidence. There is a lot of unstable, glitch-like twitching in the old design’s animations, so maybe it confirms it being MXES...?

Anyway, this last one is an even bigger stretch that the rest. It’s practically speculation more-so than grasping at straws. Humor my late-night attempt at logic for a second.

If we’re going by Glitchtrap being “dead” via Security Breach’s Princess Quest ending, then who or what is going to be the antagonist of Help Wanted 2? Or at the very least, who’s going to be the creepy bunny peeking out of some random doorway this time?

Well, if Help Wanted 2 is a prequel to Ruin (much like how HW was a prequel to SB), then MXES would be a pretty good candidate. Vanny’s left her antagonist role behind, Scrap-Trap is probably only going to be showing up in FNAF 6 mini-games, and.. Well, I’m not really sure what other candidates there could be in-between SB and Ruin.

The point is that MXES’ origins might get explored... in the more Afton-centered VR game. With William himself getting either a new voice or two voice actors in a partially-collaborative effort, if both Matthew Curtis’ Twitter bio and Springtrap’s ghostly whispers in Ruin are anything to go by.

...Just remembered that there is also the detail of MXES smiling more when... I don’t remember exactly, which is a pain, but it’s either the longer you leave your mask on or the closer he’s getting to jump-scare you with an animatronic. Dunno if that “proves” anything, but I’d thought I’d bring it up before I kicked myself later.

TL;DR - The chin’s the main concern, but there’s a couple of other things that are off too. If it turns out I’m right about this, then I’m not sure how I’d feel.. yet.

[cryptidclaw]

hello! i just want to ask because your posts have really been helping me get into lioden again! how good is wolvden compared to lioden?? i know theyre really similar in a lot of ways but i wanna know if you’d recommend both!

Personally I like a lot of parts of Wolvden more than Lioden! There is more to do on Wolvden and its a bit more difficult and requires just a bit of strategy!

The base of both games are the same since they are made by the same people, but Wolvden has some added mechanics! there are several jobs you need wolves to fill in, Scouts, Hunters (Stalkers, Chasers, Finishers), Pupsitters, Healers, even Mentors which makes Pup training easier!

(im cutting here bec this ended up kinda long)

each role uses different stats so you have to chose wolves that work best for each role, plus with Hunters you need to chose wolves for your hunting parties that not only fill out the sub categories but also mesh well personality wise!

I may be making this sound more complicated than it is, Its pretty easy to catch on to the different roles and strategies in Wolvden, and I think it makes playing a lot more fun since there's more to do and u have to strategize more!!

Other things I like about Wolvden: You get to customize ur first lead wolf and ur first pack member (u can chose from common genestics). You can chose any male in ur pack to be ur stud, not just ur pack leader (which can be male or female), you can have pair bonds which lets a male who is not stud and a female have puppies! There are two places you can do quests, 5 mini quests with Melvin which will give u 10 SB each and 3 quests with the snake which gives u around 100 GB I think!!! I really wish we had those 3 snake quests in Lioden instead on just the one :P

also also the tutorial for the game is really good! really helped me understand both Wolvden AND Lioden lol

However!!! Wolvden has less stuff genetics wise, Lioden has a lot more types of mutations, markings and bases, while Wolvden has far less, for example they have no hybrids, or primals and only have two types of Piebalds. I think this is probably bec Wolvden hasnt been around as long and isnt as popular, so its had less updates!

The only thing that really annoys me abt Wolvden is the HP bar... you loose HP soooo easily and it doesnt go back up unless you get a healing role in explore or use a healing slave, I dont get to battle as much bec of this >:(

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An Introduction to Perspective Drawing Mini Series Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbHjEYND11A Previous videos from the series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfxB0kWncrs&list=PLGqLd8aLnAfFqtsO-SB-6-6A2h8e5Axik Continuing from the previous lessons on how to draw for beginners, we finally reach an important lesson that will change your drawing game forever. Perspective drawing is not a subject I can explain in one or two videos, so I made a mini series on it as a part of the overall art journey series. Just like the overall journey series this will have 3 different levels, beginner, intermediate and advanced. I explain in this video the plan from the start to finish. I hope it will make things much more clearer for what's to come. You can get an overall idea about the series here and Stay Tuned for the first lesson on Friday :)

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The Best Blush for Indian Skin: A Guide to Finding the Perfect Match

Who doesn’t like healthy glowing cheeks? Blush adds life to your boring makeup look. But the whole game can go wrong if it doesn’t match your skin tone. 

This blog will give you blush options that perfectly match your skin tone. Not just that, we have provided guidelines on how to find the right blush for every Indian skin tone. 

Ultimately, the type of blush you choose will depend on your skin type, personal preferences, and the look you want to achieve. It's best to experiment with different types of blushes to find what works best for you. Go buy the best blush for indian skin now.

Guide to Finding the Perfect Blush for Indian Skin

Let’s understand every Indian skin tone and what blush suits them best.

Deep Skin

For those with deep skin tones, rich, bold shades of blush such as burgundy, deep plum, and warm brown tones are a great option. These shades will add depth and dimension to your cheeks and complement your skin tone beautifully. Avoid blushes that are too light or cool-toned, as they may not appear on your skin.

Medium to Olive Skin

Those with medium to olive skin tones can opt for deeper, warmer shades of blush, such as apricot, terracotta, and warm mauve. These shades will add warmth to your skin and create a beautiful glow. Avoid blushes that are too light or cool-toned, as they may not appear on your skin.

Light to Medium Skin

You can go for warm pink, rosy, or peachy shades if you have light to medium skin. These shades will add a natural flush of color to your cheeks and complement your skin tone beautifully. Avoid too cool-toned blushes, as they can wash out your complexion.

Fair Skin

Light pink, peach, and coral shades are a great option for those with fair skin. Avoid too dark or bright blushes, as they can overwhelm your skin tone. Stick to soft, subtle shades that will enhance your natural flush.

Types of Blush Makeup

Blush comes in various types, each with its unique benefits and drawbacks. Here are some of the most common types of blush for skin:

It's also important to consider the finish of the blush. Matte blushes work well for oily skin, while those with dry skin can opt for cream or liquid formulas that provide a more dewy finish. Ultimately, the key to choosing the right blush for your Indian skin tone is experimenting and finding what works best.

The Best Blush for Indian Skin Tone at Cossouq

Go grab your perfect blush match here. You can read the review of the best blush available in India and buy from Cossouq easily.

Star Struck by Sunny Leone Blush Stick

Try flushing pretty blush from Star Struck. This beautiful blush is available in 4 shades which is why it is our Best Blush For Indian Skin Tones. It offers you nonsticky natural blush.

You can easily wear it on humid days as well. 

Features

Vegan

Travel friendly

Easy to apply

Pierre Cardin Paris - Porcelain Edition Blush On

Next, we have powder blush. The healthy glowing blush will make you awe. It blends smoothly and gives flushing pink color. The micronized powder offers you a premium finish. You can easily use this.

Features

Silky super finish

Available for every skin tone and skin type.

Blendable easily.

Dromen & Co Pink Blush Paper

This unique blush comes in paper form. The mini diamond-like shiny blush is perfect for an on-the-go makeup look as you don’t need any additional application to apply. Simply pat and sweep; it will soak oil and offer a flushing glow.

Feature

No need for any brush

Instant glow in one go

Sugar Cosmetics Face Fwd Blush Stick - 01 Coral Climax

The next best blush for fair skin is from Sugar Cosmetics. The coral climax edition is highly pigmented and adds the right amount of pop to your cheeks. You just have to dabble, and it will add a flawless matte finish.

Features

Travel friendly

Vegan

Buildable Formula

Swiss Beauty Blusher SB-805 Highlighter Brick

Get an array of shimmery blush in one palette from Swiss Beauty. This blush palette is made for every Indian skin tone so that you can find the perfect one. You can get a multidimensional, sculpted look using this lightweight blusher.

Features

It is a mix of perfect bronzer and highlighter.

It drenches easily into your skin.

Summary

Add blush to your cheeks as per your skin tone. Using deep and dark colors works best on dusky skin while trying light pink on fair skin. Buy the Best Blush Online in india from Cossouq and get additional discounts on your first purchase and many more.

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Australian scientists have taught brain cells in a tray how to play the computer game Pong

Scientists in Melbourne have successfully taught human brain neurons living in a tray how to play the 1970s computer game Pong. In a world first, researchers from biological computing operation Cortical Labs showed that 800,000 brain cells living in a dish could perform goal-directed tasks. The results of the study, published on Thursday, are gaining international attention. Pong is one of the most basic computer games around and was one of the first. Pong was hugely popular when it first came out. Source: SBS News To play the two-dimensional game, which is based on table tennis, players have to move their ‘paddle’ to hit a dot or ‘ball’ as it comes over to their side of the screen. Researchers from Cortical Labs and Monash University worked together on the project. Adeel Razi, Associate Professor at the Turner Institute for Brain and Mental Health at Monash University, said the difficult part was connecting the neurons to the electric rays. “So you could grow human neurons using stem cell technology, that’s really a part of it, I guess, to grow new neurons in a dish. We actually grew both human neurons and also separately, the mouse neurons,” he said. “But then the difficult part was, and the new part was is that they dropped them onto a microelectrode ray, a ray of electrical sensors. And, yeah, and then connected the whole thing to a game of Pong.” He said electrical pulses told the neurons where the ball might be. “And then, after a few minutes, the neurons started to learn, be organised, make networks and started to play the game.” Mr Razi said neurons operate at a higher speed and performance than pure machine learning technology. He said this could be used to combine biology with machine technology, improving the intelligence of robotics. “So we are creating devices out of out of active materials that actually collaborate with them. We don’t actually exactly tell them what to do, but we try to collaborate with them and then let them imagine what to do.” The CEO of Cortical Labs, Hon Weng Chong, said the project began in 2019, when his team wanted to do something different to what was being researched in what he calls the ‘artificial intelligence craze’. “There were a lot of projects out there, which was deep learning, machine learning based and those who are heavily dependent on data,” he said. “And so my co-founder and I looked at this, and we said, is there something else that we could do? I think that it’s also in the space, but not quite directly competing.” Scientists were able to get brain cells in a dish to move the elements on the screen to play Pong. Source: SBS News Mr Chong said the project was inspired by nature – and more specifically, flies. Flies, he said, even with a relatively small number of neurons, operate at a higher level of intelligence than drones. “And the inspiration for that really came from an observation in nature, where if you look at, you know, even a fly and how it navigates the world with only 100,000 neurons, and it’s incredible,” he said. “So we looked at it and we said, okay, so you have something that has exhibited general intelligence has the ability to operate in the real world. One that uses significantly less power than what we currently have. Why not build something with it?” While the technology opens doors for innovation, it also raises concerns from an ethical standpoint. Danielle Hamm, director of the UK-based Nuffield Council on Bioethics, told the BBC questions around consciousness must be considered. “Will these so-called mini-brains develop to the point where they can feel pleasure or pain? How might we consider their moral status if they were conscious or sentient?” she said. “And how should we regulate the use of this research and future technology? These are questions that we haven’t begun to consider.” Source link Originally published at Melbourne News Vine