#was playing theseus

[bonbongiveshell]

I've things that never made sense to me about fashion history ppl shitting on ren faire and fantasy movie costumes is that they don't acknowledge that historical fashion is kinda boring (and before you come for me, I did in fact minor in costume history) and when it comes to a show or movie or event that is not like, a reenactment or documentary, the most important thing is if the costume reads well to the audience and if it contributes to the story. Outside stays may not be historical, and perhaps a 14th century Italian maiden would not have dreamed of wearing a collarless off the shoulder blouse, but if she's serving drinks in my tavern, I need her to look like the idea of a barmaid, accurate or not.

I did costumes for a midsummer nights dream and for the wedding scene, I had the girls in white. One of the actors, who studies fashion history as a hobby, commented that it wasn't period accurate for wedding dresses to be white and I had to tell her that 1) her whole costume is made of plastic fabric and the boning in her corset was made of zipties and 2) the audience is already going to be struggling with the Shakespearean language (bc you're not that good at acting, which I did not say) and it needs to be obvious you all just got married. I am simply not interested in sacrificing story telling on the altar of historical accuracy

[perplexingly]

Text is from Grief Lessons: Four Plays by Eurypides

[tagzpite]

fishysseus next?

[couchtaro]

Theseus

Theseus, scarecrow oath of the watchers paladin and shepherd of souls, belongs to @eaudecrow

Flowers

Asphodel (Asphodelus): the land of spirits. In Greek mythology, a field of asphodels in the underworld was the dwelling place of neutral souls.

Dame Violet (Hesperis matronalis): watchfulness

Black bindweed (Dioscorea communis): support

Boxwood (Buxus): Constancy in friendship. Labyrinthine hedge mazes are traditionally made of boxwood shrubs.

Rattlesnake root ( Prenanthes purpurea): protection, shield, guarded steps. This plant was thought to grant protection from being caught up in a group of supposed to “friends” who are in actuality threatening and dangerous.

Heath (Epacris impressa): solitude

Witch hazel (Hamamelis virginiana): a spell is on me.

Straw: constancy. Broken straw: broken contract, trouble.

Corn poppy (Papaver rhoeas): good and evil, light and darkness, life and death, fun-loving, avoidance of problems, oblivion. The ancient Greeks believed that corn would not grow without poppies growing nearby. In Greek and Roman myths, poppies were used as offerings to the dead and in modern times are often a motif found on tombstones. Poppies are some of the first flowers to fill holes in disturbed ground, so old battlefields often fill with poppy.

Giant milkweed (Calotropis procera): purposelessness, a monstrosity

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[pasdetrois]

Fiona Benson

[shmothman]

kinda gay to have a sworn enemy. who did you swear to? another man?

[skhardwarevers1]

Oh okay fuck you then

[the8thsphynx]

(Theseus, 3⭐️ Saber Ascensions)

(Artist: Shimadoriru)

I, for one, would die for him.

[freedomforthewin]

I feel like Theseus is the one who would have lined up his toys as a kid and played with them the way they were “supposed to be played”. Like, if Theseus played with blocks, I think he would have built buildings of some sort.

If Newt played with blocks, he probably would have built starfish or somethings lol. Or big enclosures for different toy creatures, and he’d pretend he’s visiting each of them.

[iicynox]

Manifesting Theseus and Melinoë being besties in the new game for the sheer comedic potential of the utter EXASPERATION Zag will feel as a result

[mihari]

Another April Fools event has passed so I am once again asking you to gaze upon them.

[sisididis]

Let me tell you, the post-House of Hades heartbreak is like no other.

[silverbirching]

I will never forgive Kaos for making Theseus hot.

DON'T THINK YOU CAN GET AROUND ME BY BEING A HOT GAY PERSON OF COLOR, THESEUS, I KNOW YOU'RE STILL THE WORST SOMEHOW.

[toadmelon]

i think that in a modern hadesgame au theseus would be one of those obnoxious twitch streamers

[fallen-elytrian]

I got Hades for Christmas and I’m a little obsessed with it atm and it got me thinking…

QSMP Hades AU

Zagreus is so sassy but also respectful and truly cares about his loved ones. And I got a dialogue where he was talking to Achilles and he called him “sir” and I was like “omg his literally an older Chayanne” and now I’m making this post.

I think it would look something like:

Chayanne- Zagreus

Philza- Achilles

Kristin- Nyx

Curochuro- Hades

Missa- Patroclus (I wasn’t sure if I should switch him and Kristin or not but I figured because he keeps being separated from Phil this made more sense)

I think the Olympian gods could be the other islanders. Who are trying to help him “escape the island”

I like the idea of Techno being Chaos, especially because you have so sacrifice HP to open the Chaos gates. Kinda like the whole “blood for the blood god” thing

Maybe Fred and Tubbo as Orpheus and Eurydice

I’m not sure who I would assign to the various bosses. Maybe ElQuackity as Theseus? And I wanted to include Tallulah in here but I’m not sure what role she would fit either! I don’t see her being one of the characters who don’t support Zag. I was thinking maybe Thanatos because he still helps Zagreus but is sad he’s leaving?

Anyone can feel free to add on if they have ideas too! I’d love for this to expand haha

[athamad]

Theseus and women

Theseus is one of the most hated characters in Greek mythology on the internet and l wanted defend him because l love him and he's clearly, VERY clearly misunderstood. Now, by misunderstood l don't mean, "Oh, his father wasn't around so he was traumatized," l mean he is always characterized as this misogynist egoist man who everybody loves just because he's a MAN™, which isn't true at all. I'm not going to explain why l love him directly in this post but I'm just going to explain why people misinterpret his relationship with women, because other than his "misstreatment" of women, he's literally just a guy.

Theseus and Amphitrite

Like, look at him! He's just a boy! Anyways, let's start with the obvious reason he gets hate.

Ariadne

We all know the story of him leaving her behind and then Dionysus finds her yada yada. We don't know why he does this, some people say that he's just a jerk and did this dick move because he wanted to but l beg to differ. Many modern-day writers tried to explain this abandonment, though most of them just painted Theseus as a jerk like leaving her because she was annoying or like what l said, just because he's a dick. I was researching how authors reasoned him for his abandonment and guess what THERE ARE SOURCES ARE EXPLAINING HIS ACTION, 1) She was killed by Artemis, this is not a well-known one but it is an explanation of him leaving Ariadne behind, Ariadne was killed by Artemis while she was giving birth to his sons, l couldn't find a reason on why she did it but this is a reason, 2) Dionysus demanded him to leave her because he wanted her, some sources say this and even say that the reason Theseus forgot to change his sails was that he was sad about leaving Ariadne behind, now, does this mean he's an angel, no because some sources do say 3) Theseus willingly leaving her behind, however, they all give a different explanation. A reason l like comes from the book "The king must die" where Ariadne is participating in a human sacrificial ritual and Theseus doesn't like that because it reminds him of Medea or something. I don't know l just read it while researching l didn't read the book but l like it, Ariadne being all crazy and that because it would explain why she's great with Dionysus and her parents are both very cold people, one being a goddess and one being... Minos. I heard there are versions where Athena tells him to leave her but l couldn't find them so that could have been added very later. Now, what version do l see as the truth? None. I like the version my brother suggested, which is "He forgot,". HE FORGOT, HES FORGETFUL, AND HE ALSO FORGETS TO CHANGE THE SAILS. I like it so much because HES LITERALLY JUST A GUY. But, in all seriousness, you can dislike Theseus for leaving Ariadne behind since there are sources that say he left her willingly but check the other versions too.

Theseus, Athena, Dionysus, and Ariadne.

Now that that's out of the way, let's see any other reason Theseus gets hate that involves yet another woman! Which is...

Helen

There is a myth that Helen is kidnapped by Theseus... That's it. So, for context (even though everyone knows it already) Theseus and his "best bud" (wink, wink) Pirithous are both demigods, Theseus being Poseidon's son and Pirithous Zeus's. Since they both have divine blood, they conclude that they will marry one of Zeus's daughters, Theseus picks Helen and Pirithous picks Persephone (like an idiot). They abduct Helen, yada yada, try to abduct Persephone but fail miserably, yada yada. And people dislike him because... he kidnapped Helen, yeah, okay, let's break this down. Kidnapping women was a very well-known thing in ancient Greece, was it acknowledged it was bad? Yes. But was it still there? Also yes. But this isn't about lust, Theseus kidnaps Helen because she is Zeus's daughter and he thinks he deserves at least a demi-god because he is one too. Can this be considered hubris? Yes, it can, and in my opinion, it is. Theseus has done very heroic stuff and wants something in return, he thinks that a mortal wife is too little for him so he picks what he thinks is the best thing for him, a wife whose father is Zeus. He doesn't do this as an act of lust, just hubris, and maybe for reputation, since Helen is the most beautiful woman, having the most beautiful woman as a wife is a thing to be proud of. But that doesn't mean Theseus gets what he wants immediately, because Helen is young, very young. He even acknowledges that as an Athenian, which is okay to marry a 14-year-old girl, but Helen is younger. Sources change her age from 9 to 12, but the point is, she's too young. So, Theseus decides he'll wait and gives her to his mother in the meantime. When he gets rescued by Heracles, he faces consequences, which is learning his mother is now a slave to Castor and Pollux. This is what l like about him too, he's a king, a hero, yet faces consequences more than anyone. Even if he doesn't, when he does bad things to another, bad things happen to him later, Karma bites him in the ass, and in my opinion making a character face consequences is the best way to make them feel human and relatable. Theseus isn't the only one, every mortal in Greek mythology are human-like character to me because they face consequences! Heracles, Achilles, Agamemnon, Odysseus, Bellerophon, and many more make bad choices, face the consequences, and acknowledge them! Theseus kidnapping Helen is a bad thing, yes, but he didn't even touch her because she was a child and his mother got taken away in the end.

Theseus taking away Helen

So yeah, this is it. I was going to go into more detail about his relationship with women since there are women he helps and respects but this is all for now. If l made any mistakes, please let me know without sounding rude, l can take constructive criticism. Anyways, have a good day!

(@coloricioso was the one who asked me to explain my Theseus obsession, so here it is!)