#walter graham

[rocktheholygrail]

Hannibal 3x11 - “And the Beast From the Sea”

"your dad has enough to worry about" [cut to his dad reciting romeo and juliet to another man]

[tethered-heartstrings]

[bisexualmotif]

[authorafterhours]

If Will doesn't know first aid before meeting Hannibal, he certainly does afterward. During those three years, I imagine him doing that and learning other stuff that would be useful 'just in case' skills. Just in case for what, even he isn't sure, but they're small allowances he gives himself.

He knows the psychology intimately, but Will is really good at denial.

[its-blorbin-time]

[daisies-on-a-cup]

i don't necessarily think will is a good parent, but i don't think he's a bad one either. he's more just like an adult who is in charge of a child- one who can care for them and provide for them, but not exactly hold all the natural sense of paternity or love for that child. any love he felt for abigail was just garrot's love for her. his attachment to walter is very superficial, and there aren't any scenes given that indicate will actually feels anything... loving towards the boy. he takes care of molly and walter for sure- plays the role really well of provider, husband, and step-father. but he "plays" them. he's not really feeling any of it. i think will really wants to feel it, to have that kind of sure, emotional and loving attachment to a child like a parent should, but in the end, they aren't *his* kids and they come secondary to whatever attachment he had to the adult that was around him first. so, even though i think will certainly attempts to fulfill the role of good parent, it falls flat because he is merely playing at the role and isn't invested in it

[thelesbododo]

I think it's interesting that Will, who lost his surrogate daughter, ended up marrying a woman who's son looks quite a bit like that daughter

[charred-angel-ribs]

I'm nearing the end of my third (3rd) full watch through of Hannibal, and I love the show so dearly. I love going on about the writing and symbolism and the acting and every little bit that makes it so good as a show.

But I feel like it's only fair to talk about the flaws as well, so, I gotta say it: I don't like Molly's character.

I think she could have been a good character, but for some reason she just doesn't feel well written. Her character feels very shallow (not like a shallow personality, but shallow as in not developed). Like a filler character for the sake of pushing a narrative, rather than an actual person involved in the story.

We don't really get to know much about Molly, but from what we do see of her, she comes across as an NPC almost. As if she's saying what she does just for the sake of it.

She gets Will to go back to working with Jack, which implies she either is completely unaware of how bad things were and what happened, or that she knows but doesn't care/understand properly. Now, either of these are viable options for a character, but the way it's done just seems to lack any sort of reasoning or feeling.

When she talks about it, both with Jack and Will, her dialogue feels like it's written just for the sake of pushing a narrative. It doesn't feel like there's any sort of drive or emotion behind what she's saying. She objects a little with "You're gonna take him either way" to Jack, but the way it's done just sounds like she's saying it for the sake of "Oh but I didn't want him to, I tried to convince Jack otherwise".

It doesn't feel reasonable for her character. From what we see, Molly and Will seem to have a healthy relationship, and they do seem to actually care about eachother (though even that isn't written very well), so it doesn't make sense that she wouldn't care - in fact, I would argue she would care a lot. But she doesn't seem to?

Not just with Will going back, but about the consequences too. After Molly and Walter's incident with Dolarhyde, it shows Molly in a hospital bed talking to Will. She barely seems phased by it. The most emotion we see her express over the matter is "My son almost died. I almost died." said very calmly, then proceeded by a sigh and "Man, I got mad there for a second."

Like, I'm sorry? What do you mean "I got mad there a second"? She should be way more shaken up by that. Like she just said, she and her son not only almost died, but were almost killed. By the guy Will's after, because the man who manipulated him for so long decided to sick him on Will's family as a way of further manipulating him now that he's back.

Yes, she does call Hannibal out with "I knew it was him," but that's it. She deserves to get angry, she should get angry. Or scared, or annoyed, or upset, something. The fact that she's so calm about it all makes it feel very superficial, like they just had her there to push things along and that's it.

And alongside Molly's character's poor writing, Will's line of "I'm just about tired of you crazy sons of bitches." feels wildly out of character, not only for Will but for the whole show. Will is not, at any point in the show (to my memory and knowledge), known to make any sort of ableist remarks or use any sort of ableist language - in fact, I don't think anyone does. The closest it gets is when Chilton uses outdated terms to refer to Gideon (if I remember correctly).

The whole show is very respectful (in my opinion) of neurodivergent and mentally ill people, especially considering it's a large part of its horror aspect. I view Hannibal as proof that you can have media whose horror aspect is neurodivergence/mentall illness, without it being ableist. In fact, at the beginning of the show, we see Will talking to Jack about how he doesn't like that Jack made a museum about serial killers and named it the "Evil Minds Museum". A lot of mental illnesses are villainised and considered "evil", and Will was outwardly objecting to that.

So for Will to just walk into Hannibal's room and say that feels like a curveball and a half. It doesn't feel natural. Will has never been known to say things like that, and whenever he and Hannibal communicate, it's never that aggressively blunt; there's always some layer of poeticism and subtext to carry the words forward. But even so, Will doesn't really talk like that with anybody??

I don't know, maybe I'm just missing something, or misinterpreting something. This is just how it came across for me. I'd love to hear someone else's thoughts on this. /lh /gen

[dangerossblue]

Molly could have been a stretch looking like Hannibal but Walter? that was Will graham subconscious all the way through. for real got a mini lookalike right there (upper photo is Mads Mikklesen as a kid)

[zer0expektation]

unfortunately, one of my hobbies is making music playlists for every show I'm obsessed with ever, and thus;

[rocktheholygrail]

Hannibal 3x11 - “And the Beast From the Sea”

the way Walter calls Will “Dad” vs. the way Will calls his son Walter “an 11-year-old”

[ratpyramid]

[mudkipper]

I love you corruption arcs i love you descents into madness i love you meaningless revenge i love you selflessness turned into selfishness i love you characters who've changed each other for the worse i love you all-consuming rage i love you fallings from grace i love you living long enough to see yourself become the villain i love you gray morals i love you doomed narratives i

[foresttt-png]

been thinkin about the og team.... before the horrors

[arkashas]

3.08 | 3.11 parallels

Will and Molly failing to find refuge in each other during a difficult time in their lives, and turning to their first, or "true" loves as a source of comfort instead.

[filmjunky-99]

t h u n d e r h e a r t, 1992 🎬 dir. michael apted