#vmin interviews

[not-goldy]

No because when you see how important GCF-T is for Jungkook, how he constantly brings it up including his White day live, look into the lyrics of the song

'But I can't do this alone Sometimes I just need a light If I call you on the phone Need you on the other side'

'Boy, I'm holdin' onto something Won't let go of you for nothing I'm runnin', runnin' just to keep my hands on you',

'I'll be there for you But you gotta be there for me too'

his cover of Only Then

If you start to like someone else If I get used to not being with you When that time comes, when it’s that time Whether you want it or not, I’m going to hold onto you When I get too tired that I can’t even walk When that time comes, when it’s that time Only then we can break up

Like, I understand why Jungkook was kinda salty. That's a man who was literally begging for Jimin to come to him, commenting on his post saying he misses him, doing marathons of Jimin-related content, that's a man who was spoiled by Jimin, by his love and attention. Add to that looming military service and a possibility of not seeing each other for 1.5 years (JK literally got upset when Jimin brought this theme on AYS?). Bro, I get him, I would be sulky, petty and salty, too. I'd want to spend every day, minute and second with my man, too, especially when the said man is Jimin. People need the get tf off Jk's dick.

It's not even that darling

I feel people just like to be miserable like that show is fantastic brilliant fun I was just smiling through out watching them just go and be themselves with eachother and I'm not commenting on anything at the moment because I'm waiting for all the behind scenes and interviews to peice things together to confirm my hunch about them

But one thing we learning, Jimin is not always running to save Jungkook nor is Kook always babying him. Matter fact, when asked who babies Jimin the most members thought that was Tae not Jungkook and there a reason some of us gravitated towards Vmin in the 1st place.

And its interesting watching and wondering what goes through their minds in such moments like is it the adrenaline rush the high the unjudgmental environment cos what makes Jungkook look at Jimin and go I miss him and insist on being with him all the time while Jimin literally be running away from that man sometimes.

Is he overly stimulated by Kook is that why he runs because yo me I'm looking at them as a whole picture not that they exist in these fragmented moments

And I used to say on my main how their dynamic was mostly JK being the one chasing an elusive Jimin and not the other way round.

I'm yet to dissect their conversation about not hearing from eachother blah blah blah but my assumption is if this whole trip was Jimin's way of reconnecting and giving Jungkook that us time he was pouting about that would make so much sense. But also I'm interested in the why they weren't hearing from each other or texting cos I've been said when you see Tae Kook spending a lot of time together it's almost always the case JK and JM on some bs shenanigan.

But I was hoping that wasn't the case this time and Jungkook was genuinely making efforts to connect with Tae- which I deadass feel is the case in this situation. Cos like Jungkook come on, you can't always be this predictable 🙄

Now I'm just starting to wonder, if in going solo acting solo and independent was getting out of hand for both of them. Because for me, I don't see anything wrong with Jimin focusing on his career, getting his own apartment living independently from Jungkook.

If they both want to eat their cake and have it that is what they both ought to do. If they both gonna go into MS together and sell that they are just friends 🙄

THAT IS WHAT THEY BOTH OUGHT TO DO

And I trust Jimin to handle this level of detachment well. With grace and commitment to the plan.

If Jungkook is being pouty about that- sir don't do that😩

I really hope that's not the case here and this was Jungkook going hey let's not create the impression we been doing the gay all this while cos we can't stand to be kicked out of the buddy program 🤡

Jikook has been so careful post their solos and I feel everything they've said and done post solo was so they don't end up screwing serving together.

Like Jimin mentioned, even while they are there they still gotta be careful with what they say and do. People don't understand how serious this whole MS business is for them.

We like to act like shit can't go wrong for them- they still stand to go to jail if they are ever caught.

Or may be I'm just being paranoid on their behalf. I won't lie, unless you've been persecuted for your sexuality you won't understand how serious this whole thing is.

So two things have been confirmed for me, for us:

One, that this while Jikook in MS is serious business and we were not delusional for assuming their were or have been exercising caution with everything going they do.

They don't have the luxury that someone like Tae has to be fueling gay rumors about them.

In fact if it will save them, I will personally lead the Jikook straight campaign cos sometimes being straight keeps you alive.

Two, and and I mean it is clear and there was never a doubt that this whole journey was them wanting to connect- we perhaps just didn't know why.

For me I assumed they wanted that because they were going into Military might be separated for a while but then it turns out they were actually gonna go together anyways so it didn't make sense to me that they didn't spend that time with other people such as family and friends and even the members instead.

Rather they chose to do a show just the two of them.

Now everything is making sense you know??

And Tae saying it's Jeju he couldn't let them do that without him- it wasn't even about spending quality time with his "friends" right before enlisting its more so hey that's somewhere I wanna go.

To me the dots are still not connecting

Cos Jimin, he's like we going away and we doing this for our fans- great idea except if it's for the ones we would have appreciated an 0T7 travel show or at least a majority of OT7 show right before MS. Starting with Jin who went 1st.

This is them. This show is about Jikook. It's not about anyone else but Jikook it's not about BTS vminkook tryminkook no body else but THE TWO OF THEM.

THAT MUCH IS CLEAR.

When Tae arrived they called him a guest. I know that's right. It's the Jikook show period purr purr.

[viathecloset]

Taehyung and jungkook's relationship is overlooked by 90% of the fandom solely because they are so controlled by the narrative of the fandom/company that they cannot quite accept that anything outside is even a remote possibility. Ive been more of a quiet observer for years now [my sister's an army since 2015] and I've seen the boys, moreover I know how marketing and kpop works. It's quite evident if u observe close enough of the pattern on how this group of seven guys who genuinely love music is marketed you would understand to what extent you're being brainwashed. Im not talking about this like a conspiracy theorist. It's quite simple and right infront of you. Yall refuse to accept it that's all.

1. There are a certain set of stories that are made to be told by them, over and over again. Even if it disturbs them or they are bored. E.g: 2018 disbandment story, vmin dumpling incident, jikook rain fight/tokyo trip, mind you there are many things that happend between people who lived together for 10+ yrs but if it cuts the flow of events you are made to believe happened you aren't gonna hear from it, ever.

2. Like stories there are dynamics that each pair is supposed to portray Taegi as annoying/annoyed duo, taejin/jikook as flirty HS boyfriends, namseok/taekook the awkward old friends and no matter how much the relationships change or evolve you won't see it cuz again, it won't FIT the narrative that has already been shown.

3. Like relationships there are characteristics that thankfully some members chose to break out of during their solo era: hoseok always being sunshine and loud ( he's quite serious and very dedicated infact ), jungkook being that muscle dude who only knows how to follow his Hyungs ( he's very independent and has a lot of targets he wants to achieve individually, he's very thoughtful and organized) and Taehyung being WEIRD and weak ( he's extremely intelligent and super strong he's strategic and disciplined)

4. This brings us to the whole Taekook narrative, the fact that they've been seen so much during solo era yet people had the audacity to still call them distant and awkward solely cuz it wasn't via company but through Taehyung's ig or jungkook mentioning him in interviews etc. I think it's needless to say they aren't comfortable being touchy and showy on camera for content, hell if they were to shoot everytime Taehyung and jungkook hangout there would he enough CONTENT till 2067. They're supportive of eo and have a very big shared friend circle, when jungkook went missing for almost 2 months we got to know Taehyung was the one he was with.

5. The thing is everyone [ including my own sister ] thinks that Taehyung is being desperate or such whenever he mentions Taehyung cuz a. Yall have actually led jokers run so fucking rampant that everytime the man mentions him actually doing something you're ready to throw him under the bus and call him a liar or such. b. Im not saying jungkook isn't close to anyone else but when he isn't working or shooting content and just wants to be himself the one you saw him most was around Taehyung and yes it matters. In the name of hating shippers yall have not only dissed the quite frankly PRIVATE bond they seem to share but went as far as dissing Taehyung himself cuz of the extreme level of manipulation yall are under.

Ik imma find armys [jikookers ]under this sooner or later calling me names but to be honest I'm sick and tired of yall dissing very real people and their very real human relationships solely based off the content yall are made to believe is 100% candid. Go touch grass, get friends, go date, don't obsess over them for a while then come back and try seeing it from a neutral perspective.

[dearweirdme]

Hello Rain ☔️, I’m curious about your and your followers origin stories - how did you become a fan of Taekook and when did you start suspecting they might be more than friends?

I find it really interesting cause my impression what you replied with in one of your asks today about Taekookers is the same. The majority didn’t look for these two boys’ relationship at all.

I can speak for myself, I am around Jin’s age actually, I never had interest in BTS, no clue about their dynamic at all. I went through a rough patch last year and as it often is, a new fav band / series / obsession found me to help me through :) one afternoon of binging videos and one week to learn names and why the word ‘Hyung’ was used when addressing each other although no one is called Hyung 😉

Out of curiosity I asked Google who the most popular ship is and for some reason it told me Vmin but it never felt particularly romantic to me. So I was a bit irritated haha and then naturally I became aware of Taekook and oh boy, the difference immediately made me go: erm okay wait a minute 👀 and that’s what I settled on. It’s been many months and many hours of watching and reading (also your blog, thank you) and things couldn’t be more obvious for me. And the bonus is how lovely both are and how amazing they are as artists. Full package ❤️

Hi anon (😊 I enjoy the ☔️)!

Ooooo I love origin stories! Thanks for sharing yours!

I have been in fandom for more than three years now (wow 😳) and have been Tkk blogging for 2 years and a couple of months (also wow 😳).

BTS was never on my radar much. I knew them mostly from My Universe with Coldplay, since that was (and still is) on the radio a lot where I live. Otherwise.. I kinda thought they weren’t for me 🙈. I was kinda into popculture though, so they must’ve crossed my tiktok at times and one day by the magic that is TikTok’s algorithm I’m sure… a clip of a performance of either Idol or Mic drop came on my feed… and truly.. that was it. That was all it took for me to get hooked. It started with Mic drop and/or Idol went into Fake love and Pied Piper and probably every other performance song in existence in one night. I loved their energy and artistry so much! I spent so much time just enjoying their music and performances. Like you, I was going through a hard time (a year or so later my ex and I split) and their music became so important to me. Make it right was my go to song for so long. Ofcourse all that made my Tiktok algorithm show me more BTS content. Funny clips, Run BTS clips, interviews… you know the stuff. So I started to watch stuff like BTS run episodes on YouTube as well. They were so fun to me.

It’s hard remembering exactly how things went, but I do remember at one point I saw Festa 2022 (not even sure if it was when it just dropped or a bit later (I was still wildly unfamiliar with the workings of fandom) and I still remember the impact that made on me. They felt so sincere and Namjoon truly touched my heart. I was still so new that I hardly understood the context of what they were going through. I wasn’t on BTS tumblr back then, twitter wasn’t my thing even then as well.. so I think I was mostly confused for a while 😂 (like.. i thought vlive had something to do with Tae for a while). But.. festa 2022 was also when I went 👀 about Tae and Jk. Having already had some other fandom experiences.. I got curious and started to look into Taekook more. I started to read Tkk blogs and to watch Tkk videos. Timeline wise I got so confused all the time (I can now easily estimate a point in time just by looking at their hairdos). So I visited Kayla’s blog and that was very useful. All the time though, I was pretty aware about skinship in SK and fanservice… so it actually took me quite some time (I think almost 6 months or so) to go from 👀 to ✅. I really took the time to go through actual footage. TikTok and Youtube edits are fun and all, but I also know they can be deceiving. Funny how I came into fandom through Tiktok, but I would never recommend anyone to base their thoughts on those videos now 🙈.

I think I have a pretty clear idea of what the situation is like. I may not understand everything, but when I look at Tae and Jk and the way they interact it’s just speaks of love to me. Likewise I think I am able to identify true friendship between the other members, but with varying degrees. I think Jk and Jm’s friendship is based on having the same humor a lot (which is not a dig at all btw… sharing the same humor is what bonds many people). I think Jm and Yoongi give each other confidence (Yoongi to Jm) and comfort (Jm to Yoongi). I think Hobi gives all the maknae’s a sense of belonging. Jk and Jin are so similar to actual brothers to me. Namjoon and Jimin have a certain closeness that is still hard for me to describe.

Tae and Jk together… man my heart just melts and bleeds at the same time sometimes. When I managed to sift through the skinship and fanservice stuff what I was left with is a couple of soft, talented, ambitious, young guys who had little choice in the paths they could walk. While I love BTS, I have huge issues with kpop in general (with the music industry in general probably). Having these young kids sign their lives away on contracts they don’t really understand the impact of… for which they have to be grateful even… it’s so unfair to me. To see Jk and Tae become such amazing adults and still so close. I’m in awe always.

BTS gave me so much. In terms of enjoyment ofcourse, but also.. Tae specifically made me feel empowered. He made me see things about myself again that I had lost.

[peachjagiya]

I read somewhere that apparently Tae wrote 4 o clock after the dumpling fight with Jimin? But all I could find is that Tae and Jimin met at a park late at night after the fight and Jimin was drunk. Tae then said that he wrote 4 o clock that night or then and there. But assumably without Jimin and assumably Namjoon also wrote his own lines. How come Vmin shippers think he wrote it for Jimin and it’s a love letter to him? Tae never said he wrote it for Jimin or about their relationship? Also that was like ten years ago now almost, they were super young and under lots of pressure and apparently it was a big fight. Angst teenager friends fighting might trigger some lyrical inspiration surely but I doubt the whole song is about them like hsjdjd is there any info I am missing and what do you think? Cause Tae never ever said who he wrote songs for or got his inspiration from a person etc. and such a song being written after a stupid dumpling fight? I’m sorry but the lyrics not fight that at all 😂

Ah, I'm going to put this one to other TKKrs. It asks questions about things said in interviews and my recall is terrible at the moment.

If it doesn't make much sense and doesn't stand up to scrutiny, it wouldn't be the first time. Pinch of salt required maybe. I don't think people tend to think that critically about what they're being told so it's easy for these things to pick up steam and become OT7 gospel.

But when you're a cynical old hag like me... 😂

[94erz]

Oh that video you linked made me sob i cant belive they separated them. Someone once said namseok and vmin have the same energy. I need joon and hobi to get in the studio and give me their version of friends.

I also feel like they're extremely close irl and dont show it that much on camera. My fav moment is ptd shows when joon says "there goes my superstar" for hobi. I FUCKING SCREAMED.

Literally me, I've been upset since Hobi enlisted and as soon as I found out Joon and him were supposed to enlist together I was like, oh, I'll never be happy until they're together again, FULLY.

Namseok are SO close, their entire dynamic is so much fuller offscreen than onscreen and I love it. 2022/2023 showed us JUST how close they are, how often they talked about the other when they weren't even together, hyping each other up, promoting each others work, going to events together, having fun together on their off time like going to concerts and art events (which we literally didn't even get any content out of, we only know they did that because media outlets caught them leaving the event together and that was IT), or the fact that Hoseok confirmed they talk the most. All the interviews they did (and still do) mention each other, like please.

One of my absolute fave moments (felt like a whole event to me honestly) was Hoseok taking pics for IG and one of them was him in front of some random piece of art, only for us to find out a little later that it was no random piece of art but a gift from Joon TO Hobi and so Hobi went to brag about how he took pretty pictures in front of the painting Joon got him in the comments on IG TO Joon. Only for Tae to jump in and was like 'wait, I want art too!' so we found out Joon ONLY gave art to Hobi. With the final nail in the coffin being not only was it a gift from Joon to Hobi but he straight up had it commissioned directly from the artist and the piece itself could be found under a specific name related to that fact on the artists' website. So in summary Joon got a painting of their Han River dates commissioned for Hobi specifically, to which Hobi hung it in his home and decided to take pictures of himself in front of it thus revealing all of this to fans and the other BTS members who were also finding out about this in real-time.

I mean, I was living for this, and I still am frankly, how can I not?! Their mutual love of art being immortalized in a piece Joon got just for Hobi in relation to something related to just them, that's love.

[stormblessed95]

https://youtu.be/aJxeg96utWg?si=Pzc4J9maxLMxsS3c

Hey Stormy, i have another question for you. Would you by any chance happen to have a link to this interview? Full with English subs? I know there is a part where the members were asked about who they believe they share a red string with and Tae whispered to the host and even though they didn’t say it out loud, all signs pointed to it being about Jimin. Could you please give me the link if you have it, and also explain more if you know about this interview? Thanks

Ahhh vmin and their red string of fate 😍🥰

150619 Nico Nico Live 😊

Full interview with English subs, it's like an hour and 19 minutes long I believe. I watched this a while ago, so I can't break it down fully for you without rewatching, which I don't super have time for, but it's ADORABLE lol

[jiminsass-istant]

tae already asked them to get out of their imagination

Then the next day he regretted it and tell them that jk is sleeping next to him

And who told you that he regretted it? Or did you come to that conclusion yourself?

Thanks for your ask anon. I've been thinking of doing a deep dive on Tae's personality for some time now.

IS TAE-A-KOOKER?

How is Tae telling them to get out of their imagination and telling jk is sleeping next to him related?

If he calls tkker's to get out of imagination, doesn't that already establish that jk is his bro and friend? Have we not seen jk and tae sleeping next to each other on camera before?

Do you think Tae, jimin and jk have the time to do the mental gymnastics shippers do?

When Tae kept Jimin around for more than half of his fan meet, was he promoting Vmin then? He made Jimin sit down in front of the whole crowd and made everybody sing HBD. If I didn't know they were friends, I would think it was boyfriend behaviour. And mind you, Vmin is a more significant ship than TK in Korea.

🔆Do you think Tae reads the multiple delusional threads in english on insta and twitter? He can't read medium to advanced level English, period.

🔆Tae has always been an impulsive person since the beginning. Be it interviews, saying unhinged stuff, being romantic towards members for no reason, revealing jk-jm are hanging out in the dead of the night. Entering jk's room during a live when JK was naked in Osaka. Asking James Corden to touch Jimin's thighs on national television, no..INSISTING on it multiple times while RM just sat there embarassed. You forgot when he went live while being drunk with Jimin, WHILE JK was already live? Hybe intern must have pulled their own hairs when that happened.

_🔆The taekook page Tae recently posted from has military pics from private sources, completely illegal to be posted in public. While Tae and the members clearly do not want their privacy invaded during military. (Hybe almost sued camp app). If Tae had checked the page once, he wouldn't have posted. But man has no media training recently, so he posted without even checking the source. The same way he posts from fansites, airport pics, posts AI pics etc.

Can you imagine any other BTS member being that impulsive? Apart from JK? No. That's why they are 'partners in crime'. Always getting scolded together.

You need to understand the dynamics members have with each other from official content. Not from shipping spaces or solo spaces.

Now, let's look at some of the early impressions of Tae on the members -

- 'alien','we used to fight a lot' in Jimin's words

-'i knew he wouldn't listen to me' - RM when he met V

-'difficult to understand' - Suga

- ' in his own world' - Jin

But Jungkook -

' helped me get out of my shell'

And finally me-

" Tae reminds me of my cousin who people around me used to think was a 'special kid' because of his weird behaviour, but he was perfectly normal, just different "

And let's not forget this reaction by knetz when V was singing along to a song of a group he liked during an encore. People accused him of making fun of the song, when it was actually one of his favourite songs. He was just so lost in singing with exaggerated expressions,that too on national tv, on stage- that people mistook it for rude behaviour and he was harrased by netizens.

I cannot count the no. of times Tae has been misunderstood at this point.

Why is Tae like this?

Would jhope post from a random account without checking? Would RM? Would Jimin ever do that?? No. They are the real adults of the group. Taekook are the children. Tae - the prime trouble maker, Jungkook who gets in the flow with him.

I unfortunately also have to remind you of the durag incident Tae had during his live. Do you think he did that to offend a community? He is simply ignorant. (Which is a problem). Isn't that a much more scandalous thing than posting from a shipper account? Just because he makes mistakes, doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable. And i do INSIST that his manager needs to organize media lessons for him ASAP.

FINAL THOUGHTS-

It is clear as day, he's just impulsive and doesn't have the intentions you are making up in your head. Stop behaving like tkkers, anon. They are the worst breed, don't stoop to their level.

The members took their time to understand him, and so should you. No one is a saint, but Tae has never come across as a vile person who would sabotage his own group member. He's impulsive, mischievous, different, creative and very talented.

In suga's words from suchwita-"Taehyung would sulk when he's not given what he wants, so we started fulfilling all his wishes".

Why would he want people to hate on Jimin, lol? It's so funny to even think of that. Haven't you seen their love for each other throughout the years? It honestly surpasses TK bond. Infact do you know why V said ' i only have you' and ' you were the one who cried with me' to Jimin? Because jimin understands him. Even better than jungkook. I have even seen instances when Tae is ignored during conversations, but then jimin is listening to him, drawing everyone's attention to Tae. Jimin is precious to Tae, ngl.

And why would he want beef with Jimin when they all want to get back together in 2025? If they had some issues, wouldn't RM interfere first, as the leader? Why the hell is Tae always texting jimin, searching up Jimin AI pics, asking to be in a reel with Jimin? Drinking with Jimin? Why does Jimin want Tae at his own fan event? Why is Jimin feeling up Tae's torso when he learnt he's working out? There's literally no evidence of Tae being vile to Jimin. You think they are that good actors?

Believe me, vminkook don't give a fuck about the delulu shipping discourses or vile shippers. You know why? Because they are not the ARMY that they recognize. Hybe or the members will never address shippers. They will show bromance for sure, but no direct call outs.

But you know who directly addressed shippers? The only one to ever do that? KIM TAEHYUNG.

And he had shut them down!

[park-jimin-isnt-real]

"dusk" masterlist

pairing(s): yoongi x reader (endgame); kai (exo) x reader; kai x oc (endgame); side namhope, jinkook, vmin rating: PG-16 genre: twilight au, urban fantasy(ish) romance current total wc: n/a

summary: When you moved to Forks, Washington, you only expected awkward conversations with your adopted sister's biological father and a lot of rain. You did not expect to see the love of your life walk through the high school cafeteria doors - especially when you thought he died back in 1918. But Yoongi doesn't remember you, and believes you to be fully human. With the seemingly endless amount of danger coming your way, how long can you keep the act up?

tw: angst, depression, suicide attempt, violence, fights, murder, blood drinking, liar revealed storyline, fluff & crack, yoongi and a piano, mint yoongi, so many kpop groups and soloists, chaotic taehyung, covering twilight-new moon-eclipse, i am not touching breaking dawn, nearly everyone goes by their real name not their stage name ~ this will be updated as the series goes on!

read on ao3 ~ read on wattpad character profiles playlist ~ faq moodboards ~ characters ~ pt.1 main masterlist

act i ~ dusk

prologue: when dusk falls ~ one: and they were roommates ~ two: just another fucking monday

three: they always say 'i can explain!' but they never get the chance to ~ four: in case you haven't noticed, i'm weird. i'm a weirdo. ~ five: rule #1: the doctor lies

six: get in loser, we're going shopping ~ seven: hi, welcome to chili's ~ eight: my brand of heroine

nine: "be myself", what kind of garbage advice is that? ~ ten: late-night interview with a vampire ~ eleven: and then i didn't

twelve: the iconic baseball scene ~ thirteen: there's only one snacc here and it's me ~ fourteen: how to run from the mess you've made

fifteen: not everywhere you fit in is where you belong ~ sixteen: was that the bite of '87?! ~ seventeen: it's just a flesh wound

act ii ~ dark

eighteen: and you did it at my birthday dinner ~ nineteen: as if i never existed ~ twenty: don't cry, craft!

twenty-one: it is wednesday my dudes ~ twenty-two: top 10 anime betrayals ~ twenty-three: take a number

twenty-four: at least there's a dog ~ twenty-five: wishful thinking, mindless dreaming ~ twenty-six: a world so dark

twenty-seven: so maybe i'm not okay ~ twenty-eight: v is for validation ~ twenty-nine: we could be

thirty: my past, my future, my hell ~ thirty-one: now would be a good time to be anyone but me ~ thirty-two: orpheus and eurydice

twenty-three: late-night interview with a half-vampire ~ thirty-four: feel my wrath and extreme self-doubt ~ thirty-five: how to be a failure 101

act iii ~ dawn

thirty-six: oh my god they were roommates ~ thirty-seven: howdy-do, fellow kids ~ thirty-eight: it's murder time

thirty-nine: the fine art of bullshit ~ forty: hey guys, i'm really trying here ~ forty-one: alexa, intruder alert

forty-two: thanks, i hate it ~ forty-three: you, bulletproof, in black like a funeral ~ forty-four: prom (an important high school rite of passage)

forty-five: there's no 'i' in 'justice league' ~ forty-six: the blood on your hands ~ forty-seven: probably unethical experimentation

forty-eight: i promise to love you forever ~ forty-nine: late-night interview with a werewolf ~ fifty: murder time is now almost exclusively the time, always

fifty-one: for what it's worth ~ fifty-two: t.g.i.f. ~ epilogue: dawn was breaking

[beautifulpersonpeach]

Sorry in advance for this long ask.

So I've noticed with kpop that most of them just go with whatever the hype or narrative fed to them is. This includes the fans or even the groups themselves.

No matter how annoying ARMYs are, I actually feel they do this slightly less than the core kpop stans because so many armys start off as locals but still within the BTS nexus also we have so many dumb narratives that just get baked into the fandom. VMin being soulmates, Jungkook being the golden maknae, Bighit being 'different' from other KPop labels, Jimin being the king of fanservice, Namjoon and Yoongi being the best at rap (so presumably over Hobi) - all this is just bs with little basis in reality. Within kpop, things are even worse imo - literally sometimes it feels like they don't listen to songs, they just decide whether things are good based on concepts or vibes or some superficial crap like that.

Anyway, so the Jungkook is the golden maknae thing, the one who will breakout narrative has been pushed for ages. The reality is that the entire maknae line is somewhat recognised among the GP and pretty popular overall. If Like Crazy had the same push as Seven, it would have done the same or better. But for better or worse, JK is the chosen one. And the reason JK acts so bratty is because he knows this too. At his core I don't think JK is a bad guy but being positioned as "the one" for years and then being actively told so by 🛴 and Bang PD now has just fueled his negative traits. The latent bratty and cocky vibes just went up exponentially during the seven promo.

I also think JK got the gist of what fans were saying about his interviews and BB Hot #1 acceptance from last week and perhaps about the preferential treatment because this week he's been doing a lot of damage control. Oh I'm so surprised I won Mnet, omg you guys I /never/ expected to win Inkigayo. He acted so weird for BB #1 but suddenly he's back to good ol' humble Jungkook. Suddenly Jimin's commenting on his lives. Tae's coming to visit him at the music show. Look how happy the members are for his success everyone. Meanwhile JK does multiple lives almost everyday this week. Seems like he's going overdrive cleaning up all the missteps from last week.

Jimin is starting to piss me tf off as well. Who keeps laughing while they are getting whipped and humiliated? A fool. He wasn't always like this but I think Bighit's harsh contract and the other members gaslighting him with fake concern and love have trapped Jimin into this zombie puppet state. I just wish he leaves Bighit. They don't care about him. They care about their chosen golden maknae and he knows it but he stays there like a fool. The mistreatment has been going on for a long time so he could have left years ago before Bighit became this powerful Hybe but he chose to spend his time drinking and being unmotivated. Although I also think its the company's fault for not motivating him. Maybe he has PTSD that Hybe is using to manipulate his behavior, in addition to his harsh contract, and that's why he played along with JK on lives to do fanservice.

***

How odd. Did you actually mean to send this ask to me? Because the way this is written reads exactly like how I'd expect a solo stan to think. And you can't possibly have sent this to me, expecting me to take you seriously.

Anyway, I'm not sure what's happened in the last week for me to be receiving the barrage of weird asks I've been getting. Did one of you suddenly stumble on my blog and send it around a GC or something? Jung Kook got #1 on the Billboard Hot100 last week but it's not like it was unexpected. I mean, I did say shortly after Jimin's achievement in early April that others in the maknae-line will possibly achieve a Hot 100 too, and that was before we knew Seven was coming, that it was an English release that would get the PET treatment, that D2C sales were banned and Hybe America got involved meaning it would get even more support. So, that can't be the reason y'all are this animated. Really, nothing unexpected has happened so I don't understand why y'all are so agitated you've taken a liking to my inbox recently.

Anon, I have nothing to tell you except that if you had any self-awareness, you'd realize what's happening to you and take a clean break away from everything k-pop for a good long while. Not even just BTS, cause this, especially that last paragraph, all reads like it was written by someone who has gotten completely sucked in. And you need to get out.

[sizzlingpatrolfox]

some posts

the titles are not to be taken seriously, i just wrote down the same titles i had saved them as in my bookmarks.

i thought about whether i should include my jikook/jk posts not because i want to negate i ever felt that way, but because while re-reading some of those posts i had an almost out of body experience and felt like i was reading things someone else said, considering how different my opinion of jungkook and jikook is right now. but well, i decided to keep them because in the end all that stuff did happen and i did feel that way at some point, even if now it's changed.

chemistry =/= relationship

skinship 1

hey what made you believe in jikook

moments

skinship 2

taekookers 1

vmin 1

possibilities sexuality and not knowing

living arrangements

family agenda wearing off

changes post 2020

tae doesn't mind being shipped with jk

jikook

jungkook is not dainty

fanservice realselves perception

taekook

herd mentality is real

all relationships in bts pretty much look the same to me

not living together

jk doesnt care what you think

physically affectionate jinkook jk not honest

get out of your imagination taekook instagram

jungkook doing fanservice (just realized that wasn't the question lmao)

why publicly solve a conflict that nobody really knew existed in the first place

not special moments

fav bts song fav jimin hairstyle fav jimin era

jikook "timeline"

they would totally lie about a relationship

larry

vminkook power struggle

soulmates and love in general

i don't have all the information i need to say for sure that they're in an official full stablished monogamous relationship

jimin hates fanservice

jimin no collab until after military

jimin solo career company nitpicking activities for members

jimin solo career - i know this fandom so well sjkdj

proof is a money grab album and everything is sad also: jungkook you're literally everything that went wrong with the group after 2020 congratulations on destroying bts

catastrophic jikook interactions same as everyone else's

everything jikook is about the overanalyzing and i hate it

some bts members feed the fandom's narratives

jk physically affectionate hoseok jin + not completely honest filling in the blanks

jk saying taehyung is the most handsome he's ever seen

jimin is infinite to me + weverse interview

tattoos

jimin is irresistible (only for the pics)

[not-goldy]

At this point. There will be requirements to even speak to me about your ship moving forward and unless they fullfil these requirements, then don't speak.

Has your ship given confirmed Hickeys they claimed on the other?

Does you ship Spend couple holidays days together CONFIRMED?

Did your ship Enlist together as companions?

Does your ship make life changing decisions together?

Does your ship drop all honorifics consistently?

Does your ship send gay bday thirst traps?

Has your ship used a queer love song on their couple travel vlog?

Has your ship written a gay love letter confession song?

Did your ship take several alone trips, spending their last days together before enlisting?

Have members ever asked your ship if they were dating, a couple, together multiple times?

Has your ship dedicated a 2 hour live to each other, watching all their content publicly while blushing & kicking their feet?

Listen. Jikook has set the bar so fucking high. I don't care about your ship or their friend group outings. I don't care about your ship spending time together. I don't care if your ship talks about each other in interviews. Or sings songs to each other (cause all members have done this). I don't care if your ship teases each other and jokes around. These things aren't enough to debate your ship is real to me, Vmin, Taekook, Yoonmin, none of them, when this is normal friend behavior and shit they do with Wooga and 97 line and or other members or Jimin does with his friends. Unless your ship is making plans together or moving like a real actual couple, with parent's stamp of approval support (Greeting with I love you, instead of Hi. Making traditional seawood soup for your 'sons friend's' bday in their household, showing public support for the two of them at their businesses) don't speak. And especially don't talk to me when one half of your ship will go down as the idol who savagely shot down his own shippers twice and confirming PUBLICLY his girlfriend of 2 years & confirming with confirming the rumors, by taking a IDGAF hand holding stroll with her in the city of love. Even Taennie supporters got more proof, real proof, then you ever will. They can SPEAK, but you can't, esp if Tae is part of your ship, cause that is just laughable, after Paris and all those leaks. So again, don't speak to me about your ship, until your ship starts to act like a for real couple and not just friends. This whole private, but not secret shit don't fly. That's just a way of trying to stay delusional and keep your ship afloat, esp when your ship is doing public couple things with other people. Sorry not sorry.

🥂🌈🌠

[taehyungfirst]

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I was reading your asks and this made me pause. I am strictly a Tae solo but I like other members too. Earlier my go to content was bh cameras. Not smart ik, so I also assumed taekook was not very close because in that talk Jungkook looked awkward when he was giving that interview. It looked weird but I was like oh well. I was new to the fandom mind you. Took me a while but I started watching fan cams, old videos and it was hard to digest why such good friends before 2016/2017 I think became so awkward with each other. I did a little digging and I found bh camera shows and bombs don't even show them together and if they do it's brief or awkward. In fact earlier bv showed Tae to be a villian tbh. It boils my blood when I see bh treating Tae. This solo era literally confused me so much because I came to realise taekook were so much together and involved in each other activities and I thought they were just loosing their awkwardness. My theory was jihopekook were besties. I really don't understand why bh don't like to show taekook together on their cameras? And why taekook like different in bh cameras (aloof, awkward) than public cameras (very close and comfortable). What was the need to show both of them in that talk and with their shady subs? If they really wanted to show depression thing shouldn't Jimin be the ideal choice? It's in his nature to comfort people as well bh has assigned that role to him especially with maknae line. Vmin could have bonded because we have also seen changes in their friendship. I think it made more sense with all their soulmate bs. I just don't understand what bh made them show taekook (one of the most popular duo) awkward rather than capitalising them. Because of their ass hattery Tae gets dragged everytime he shows even an ounce of connection to Jungkook.

Sorry for the long rant. Just been seeing Tae getting dragged on x due to some nonsense and it renews my hate for bh.

Hi! I hope my reply made you pause in a positive way and not in a negative one.

I’m gonna start saying “And why taekook like different in bh cameras (aloof, awkward) than public cameras (very close and comfortable).” that I don’t agree with this part because to me they don’t act awkward on camera, idk if it’s because I’ve been in the fandom for years but I think they act very normally, but the subs, the cuts, the context could lead to misunderstandings.

I think that they just showed that talk to grasp an opportunity, because everyone noticed the lack of footage and bh used that occasion to say “look it’s because they weren’t close before” when it’s really not true, like before ITS, in an award ceremony Tae leaned on Jk because he was tired (I think everyone knows what clip I’m talking about). I used this as an example, but I could say million other things that happened in 2020 to show that the “awkward duo” is a narrative pushed by bh and cult freaks.

[dearweirdme]

Just a heads up, I'm a Jikooker, but I come in peace ✌️

I really like your blog because of how grounded and respectful you are of bts members. I feel like only reading Jikook bloggers opinions kinda traps me in an echo chamber, so it's really nice to question my interpretation of Jikook interactions with different perspectives (sometimes we gotta admit we're being delulu kkkk). Your blog is perfect for that 'cause you're very chill and bring very interesting points, so you quickly became my fav taekook blog. I'm sorry for all the jikookers who come here to make a fuss.

To clarify what I mean when I call myself a Jikooker, I believe Jungkook and Jimin have a very special bond, be it platonic or romantic, they are best friends and care deeply for each other. They're the only duo that actually makes me raise some eyebrows, however, at the end of the day, I don't know these people so what do I know? ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ No matter who they're dating I'll always be happy for them and cheer them on.

Anyways, the reason why I'm here is 'cause I love Taekook's relationship and I wanna gush about it lol.

One thing that I noticed that's very sweet is that JK is very sensitive to how Tae is feeling, so you can frequently see, for example, Jimin not realizing when a joke hurt or annoyed Tae and JK coming in to defend and praise him. (Of course Jimin is very sweet as well, he has comforted Tae through his hardest times, he's just not good at reading Tae unless he expresses his feelings out loud)

That's why I think Taekook became closer than Vmin over the years. Now, I don't think Vmin is as close as they used to be because they don't understand each other well, but the way they hugged during Jin's military discharge made me remember that despite their distance, Vmin has a soft spot for each other. You know those friends who go months without talking but when a hard time comes, they're the first ones to be there for each other and vent out their feelings? I feel like that's Vmin.

Meanwhile, Taekook seems to understand each other very well. I'm not sure if it's cause they both show signs of possibly being nd, but Taekook just has a natural understanding of what the other means. You always see Jungkook and especially Tae, say things that shock and confuse the other members, but when you look at Taekook they frequently don't even realize the other said something "weird".

Ever since their talk in ITS, it's like Taekook became closer than ever. They bring up each other any time they can in interviews and lives, they hang out all the time and we got so many adorable photos of them together. I see a lot of people saying their interactions are awkward and they seem distant, but I think they're just not the most talkative people in general and are perfectly comfortable with silence, both of them are the type of people to let other people talk more and just respond once in a while. I think Taekook communicate through actions rather than words.

The only time I saw their interaction as awkward was that Livestream in 2020 where they were making those flowers(?)(I don't remember...) but even then I think it was more about their difficulty with conducting live streams than their relationship.

That's it. I hope I wasn't an annoying jikooker

Borahae~ 💜

Hi @moo-mood !

Thanks for your kind ask. Obviously there’s things you and I will not agree on (I’ll not get into it, you know what those things are, I know what those things are, everyone does) but since vminkook-love-each-other is the biggest hill I will die on.. I’m always happy to see that this is something we can at least agree on and find enjoyment in 😊. I’m very much sure Jk, Jm, and Tae hate to read some of the stuff that goes around about them, so to see people acknowledge their closeness is really nice.

[ryoko-lamperouge]

I think what we’re seeing is the fact JK was very obviously put out by Tae joining them, the comments are one thing, and there are many, but his actions also speak.

This was, until two days before, a trip for him and Jimin and then Tae tags along, I know I’d be pissed af. I don’t blame him one bit. Jimin humours Tae, so we see it less with him, but still the interview moment where Tae explains what he did, both JK and JMs faces speak volumes. Also in the restaurant and Jimin says it’s ‘our trip’ meaning his and JKs.

Still, it looks like they had fun, but the vibe is most certainly different to CT, the intimacy has gone with Tae being there.

Yeah.

It's like jk didn't know how to insert himself in the equation. So he rode the bike alone, he did carting alone, he distanced himself at brunch, and during vmin games... he even threw a few sassy comments here and there and it was so clear that he was not...

I'm not going to say "he was not happy" but "he felt uncomfortable". He did have fun. He did enjoy Tae. They even cuddled a bit. He laughed too.. but with staff, mostly.

I do agree with you. This was a trip for JM and him. Maybe the last minute change of plans set him off. I can understand his anxiousness regarding this.

[ask-serendipity-sky]

Anon, learn what gaslighting means, because it's exactly what YOU are doing. You are trying to convince people Jikook are not friends & JK doesn't like JM. So right out the gate you're lying & you know better, yet you want to try to convince us this is true. So you keep repeating it. This might work on teens and lonely housewives who are desperate, but what pokes holes in your flat out lies, that you don't think Jikook are even friends, is the fact that Millions watched JK go live and not only gush over JM, but spend 2 hrs reacting to his content, his music, his interviews. Kept his attention on JM the entire time. Then turned around and did it again another time. This was recent anon. We all watched this. Millions watched this and you watched it too. If they weren't friends or didn't like each other anon, JK would not waste his damn time doing that. I could think of a million things I'd rather do with 2 hours of my time, then to sit and watch and react to videos of someone I am not friends with. So no, your gaslighting won't work here. It wasn't fanservice what JK did. It was real. his reactions were real. It really happened and just because you blocked it out, doesn't mean we did and I know locals didn't either. It's actually kinda concerning how badly your breed tries to gaslight others into think Jikook are not friends & dismiss anything they do, that goes against your theory.

The post where I "gaslight" according to the other anon:

Hi nicer anon,

Yeeeah. Their definition of gaslighting wasn't even used properly because in that post I stated my observations. I didn't pull a tkkr and say things weren't what they seemed or exaggerated the moments.

And then the anon comes and tries to gaslight us -_-

But yeah, your message is true. Jikook doesn't hate each other and Jk isn't mistreating Jimin.

Thanks for sharing!

[wegonbealright-09]

So today is Namjoons birthday of which I didn't know by the way because I saw nothing on twitter and that maybe be because I'm on pjm twitter and they don't give a fuck. But there was nothing on the trends or anything. I saw jimin's IG post just now and only then I knew about his birthday. Happy birthday to a music lyrical genius a dime in kpop.

This got me missing BTS and their content basically everything about them. I miss them, I miss them so much. The hiatus didn't really affect me last year because when it was announced I was going through it academically. And this year I was so caught up with jimin and face I even forgot about them. But lately especially today I found myself missing them.

I miss run BTS I miss their YT content. I actually miss armies before the hiatus turned them to a toxic fandom. I miss their fun tweets and spaces on twitter. Alot has been happening in this second chapter that has made me hate some members well not hate per say but I don't like them either. The second chapter has revealed alot about the members and the fandom its self

There are some members who's personalities are just off like literally off. And I sort of like get why that certain member doesn't have alot of friends judging by the way he acts, he doesn't have friends not because he's an introvert but because he's got a bitch ass attitude personality

As much as alot has happened in this chapter I miss the old BTS the BTS before the hiatus. As much as I want BTS to come back of which they will. There will be a huge change in the group's dynamics. You can clearly see right now that jimin prefers jhope and Jin over the others in reality where as it always seemed like he was closer with jk and Tae. I know that their bond is deeper than it seem because they don't show us everything at the same time it might not. Sometimes there's no deeper meaning to something it is what it is. Because I'm here wondering that now it is clear pretty much visible that soulmates vmin is no more. Are they going to act like the divorce doesn't exist

If the group comes back are they going to act like jk is not preferred member. That out of all of them he's the one they see potential in. Are they going to act like one member hasn't received royal treatment that they didn't receive in their debuts nor in their prime time as a group. Or are they going to act like it didn't happen just like jimin's no1 which their refusing to acknowledge because of reasons only they know or is because till today they don't believe that he actually did that on his own idk. And then there's jk looking at his attitude now and all that he's said and done is he going back and pretend to be a sweet maknae. The one who's always quite in interviews. Is he going to pretend like he didn't really said he wants to be bigger than BTS' is he going to pretend like he basically said he's better than everyone like he didn't say he was the chosen one.

Are the members and the company going to sweep everything that happened under the carpet and pretend like everything is okay because it definitely isn't. If it ain't some members not talking about BTS come back it's some using the groups name as a click bait.

Idk if I made sense but I'm just curious about alot of things and I just miss BTS.

Overall jimin has always find a way to make me mind my own business and loudly remind me that I'm just a fan quietly. Because tae was Mia during his debut but he posted him on his debut on IG. He supported every member on their debut. Sometimes I think jimin does such things to people to kinda say he's got a problem with me but I don't. Or sometimes things are not as deep as we make them to be because they don't show us everything but based on what we see mhh mhh mhh

Again jimin has reminded me to mind my business loudly and that I'm just a fan I should know my place because I could be ranting that jikook is not real only to find out that after military they're moving to that mansion JK's building in itaewon because "we don't know everything"

This man won kill me chai