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Are we at a point in society where we’re ready to talk about how Eddie and Venom are both absolutely autistic and the movies double as a metaphor for nurodivergance as well as queerness and that we really don’t talk about it enough and also I need more fanfic of them being autistic?
Edit: I have now made and posted that in depth post about this if anyone is interested
#this is my roman empire#they’re so autistic coded#I need to make a full in depth post on this at some point#probably soon because the hyper fixation is strong#i’m unwell#they mean so much to me it’s not even funny#venom#venom movie#I’m going to be real cringe for a minute here and I don’t care#eddie brock#symbrock#Venom is autistic#Eddie is autistic#autistic Eddie#autistic Venom#veddie
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The Autistic Spider-Man
#spider man#spiderman#peter parker#autistic#autism#nuerodivergent#nuerodiversity#nuerospicy#daredevil#matt murdock#jessica jones#the punisher#frank castle#j jonah jameson#marvel#comics#fantastic 4#fantastic four#mr fantastic#reed richards#symbiote#venom#black suit#spiderman 3
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eddie freaking out over his neighbour’s music will always be peak overstimulation rep to me
like this is literally how it feels
#I also wish I had a little guy in my brain who would go scare the person shitless to stop the noise#don’t fully know if I’m neurodivergent but like. yeah I’ve probably got autism#anyways eddie brock is autistic because i said so <3#eddie brock#venom#venom 2018#neurodivergent#sam’s ramblings
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#artie.draws#killjoys#kobra kid#danger days#party poison#the fabulous killjoys#ddttlotfk#venom siblings#aroace autistic kobes … my beloved….#ttlotfk#killjoys fanart#mcr
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this is coming from a venom movie dick rider. i’m mad. about the end. gonna puke about it.
#venom#too autistic for that ending#venom 3#venom the last dance#venom movie#symbrock#venom symbiote
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Why both Eddie and Venom are autistic and how the movies are actually a metaphor for neurodivergence
Includes some of my personal headcanons and concepts that I’ve been thinking about and need to share.
BE WARNED!!! This post is a bit long (and also a cringy, rambling, nonsensical mess) full thing under cut.
Some quick notes before we begin: when I have one of their names at the beginning of a section it means anything in that section only applies to one of them. (Idk, I couldn’t figure out how to organize this, you’ll see what I mean)
I don’t know much comic lore, all of this is based off of the movies. Though the movies are a different universe so I don’t think it will matter too much.
Also I use He/They/It pronouns for Venom.
In the end, Im just one guy with a hyper fixation please take everything I say with a grain of salt and feel free to add on or correct me about stuff. Especially if I say anything stereotypical or offensive about nurodivergance/autism a lot of this is based on some personal experience and I absolutely make mistakes and generalizations.
Alright enough of my yapping let’s get to it.
Overall big picture stuff
Applies to Both of them
the whole concept of them being “losers” together is kind of autistic coded. Autistic people are often viewed as incompetent or childish or useless. And I like to think they are connecting over that shared experience.
Noise sensitivity!!! Both of them have noise sensitivity! I probably don’t need to elaborate that much but that one scene in their apartment was some of the best overstimulation representation I’ve ever seen overstimulation guitar scene
Venom
Venom comes across as unfeeling because they don’t emote in a “normal” way.
They’re very blunt and literal.
Venom sometimes has a slightly higher-pitched voice when excited or angry. Which I’m going to attribute to him masking. He wants to appear tougher and scarier. This is important to its species and Venom, who is already perceived as weak by their peers, intentionally deepens his voice a bit to blend in. (This is definitely a headcanon but I love this concept so I don’t care that the real reason is that the voice modifier they use does silly things)
This is also why I think it’s so concerned about Eddie and him “looking bad” Looking weak was dangerous and they trained themself to hide “weakness”
It’s always “How does Venom affect people” and never “What does Venom need and how do other people’s actions affect them”
Venom prefers to express its thoughts and feelings through mental connection with its host and then have that person relay the information to whomever they are “speaking” to. Nonverbal communication!
Venom not understanding humans (social interaction, conventions, etc.) is kind of autistic coded.
Eddie
Edie kind of disregards a lot of social conventions. Still hangs out with his ex-fiancé AND her boyfriend. He also doesn’t seem to mind talking to Venom out loud.
Eddies is just kind of anxious in general.
Eddie struggles to find full time employment.
On that vein, he also struggles to maintain relationships.
Eddie's sense of justice. Eddie has a strong sense of justice and morals that often don’t align with generally accepted values and he follows this view of justice and morality to an absurd degree and it often gets him in trouble. Aka, the entire plot of the first movie is because Eddie has autism.
He wears the same clothes all the time.
Specific moments that I think about
Venom
Venom chewing on the tire swing (they both have oral stims btw)
Sand between his toes. Idk I just thought it was cute and chose to believe they like the sensation.
Say it with me. Tater tots are a safe food!!!
Venom rocks back and forth a lot.
This is a stretch but when Venom is like “look at all these weirdos, my kind of people” it’s a metaphor for him being queer but I’d argue it also kind of fits with neurodivergence. Neurodivergent people often connect with “weirdos” (other neurodivergent people)
Likes organization “Pile of bodies, pile of heads”
Eddie
I’ve been told Eddie chews on his necklace at the beginning of the movie but I can’t find the clip and can’t do a rewatch right now so take that with a grain of salt… (I chose to believe this happened though. Also his bracelets are stim heaven)
When he says “Oh, I have a parasite” to Mrs. Chen he had no clue what to say here. He just said the first thing that came to mind and panicked instead of explaining.
Also the way he says things funny. Ex: “✨It’s a treeeee✨” supa, supa, fhasstt” “Heee…. has. one. up. hi’s. Ass toooooo” “ET. Phone home. Aliens? 😃” I chose to believe they are vocal stims (I also attempted to find a compilation but I couldn’t find any. Maybe I’ll make one sometime)
Eddie also makes sound effects a lot.
Eddie writes notes on pen and paper instead of digitally.
He apologizes an excessive amount. Like he says “I’m sorry” to people actively trying to kill him. Which is so real.
“I just bit that guys head off” “I, uhhh, yea I’ve been there it’s not fun” 😕
Eddie also rocks back and forth. Which can be seen in this scene
Quick segment into why I think Venom was rejected by other Klyntar (it’s because he has autism)
Venom doesn’t adapt as quickly or as efficiently as other Klyntar. It doesn’t handle change well.
All of the normal Klyntar weaknesses are turned up to 1000 with them. Instead of just certain frequencies, the range that hurts him is larger and is also affected by loud noises. As shown by: “Venom” car alarm scene
instead of just fire, heat also bothers it. Also doesn’t adapt to light well. (Just a headcanon)
Can’t create weapons out of their body like other Klyntar. struggles with “simple” skills.
Much more emotional than other Klyntar and develop attachments (also purely a headcanon)
Just overall didn’t fit well into their society.
Just headcanons
Venom and Eddie are so compatible because their brains work the same way.
“I wish I could just mentally project my thoughts and feelings directly into your brain. Oh wait, we can do that!”
Venom also has temperature sensitivities. He gets hot.
Venom likes to stim to low key music, mainly jazz and lo-fi. Does the one song on repeat for three hours to wring all the happy chemicals out of it like a dish rag thing.
Venom also absolutely loves cheesy pop music (unrelated to anything here but I’m right and I needed to include it)
Venom functions as a weighted blanket for Eddie when he’s anxious. Maybe even hides under his shirt and stuff and becomes an extra weight.
Eddie stims with his jewelry.
Venom likes to sit in the freezer. Sometimes they visit Mrs. Chen's walk in just to chill (lol)
Purely my opinion but I think Venom also has some light sensitivity for a bit because it’s not used to being in such a bright environment. He gets used to it eventually but every once in awhile he finds the city lights overstimulating.
They are both very tactile. Touching things. Love a good texture.
Venom is super particular about food for someone who eats out the garbage but certain textures and flavors drive them crazy.
Venom hates vegetables. (Except for celery because it likes the crunchy and stringyness of it)
How all of this makes for a great metaphor!
Feeling like an alien in the world is probably the most relatable thing for a lot of nurodivergent people. Like there’s a manual for being human you don’t have. And just the concept of a literal alien showing up and struggling to navigate in a world not made for it is so relatable!
The way they both immediately connect to each other because they have the same weird brain stuff and weren’t accepted by their respective societies is so adorable and wholesome.
“We’re not so different, you and I” This line lives rent-free in my mind at all times. It’s my favorite quote. I think it perfectly encapsulates their relationship and why it’s special. They have autism and are bonding because the other is the first person who truly understands them! (Cries, screams, throws up)
In conclusion
They are in love and have autism. And they cling to each other because they are the first people to truly understand each other. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Also I listened to UFO by Smith and Thell on loop while writing this. It’s very autistic symbrock coded so give it a listen if you’re a fan of inde-pop.
#I promised I would write this and here it is#this is probably a jumbled mess but I really wanted to share all my thoughts#they mean a lot to me#anyway if anyone writes more fic of them having autism please DM me a link#I desperately need more fic of them being neurodivergent#autistic venom#autistic eddie#venom#symbrock#eddie is autistic#venom is autistic#venom having autism is important to me btw#I don’t see it portrayed as much in fandom for some reason but they absolutely do and I’ll die on that hill#finally got the confidence to post this#eddie brock#venom movie
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The name is Eddie Brock
I was infected by an Alien Symbiote
And together, we are the one and only
VENOM
#spiderman#across the spider verse fanart#across the spiderverse#venom#marvel#spoilers#Ok autistic theory time#What if Venom is Earth-42's “spidey” by default#IM TELLIN YA HE'S GOTTA SHOW UP SOMEWHERE
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If I had a nickel for every time my comfort character was non human, autistic coded, and agender but masc presenting and goes by he/him pronouns out of convenience I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.
All I’m saying is that Aziraphale and Venom have a lot in common and would be friends.
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Idk I love the venom bros man this trend is adorable
(Made this for you @milligramspoison <33)
!!not my fanart btw full credits to all the wonderful artists :3
#hc Kobra is autistic#Poison’s the protective loving big bro#venom bros#my chemical romance#danger days#mcr#mikey way#gerard way#way brothers#kobra kid#party poison
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pride month challenge: day nineteen (favorite show) !!
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Eddie got Venom some headphones so they can listen to music while he works. Redraw of this piece from a couple months ago.
#Crazy how much I can improve in such little time#Much happier with how this turned out#venom#symbrock#venom symbiote#eddie brock#my art#Also now people can stop reminding me of the old piece that I don’t like as much anymore#autistic venom#Important tag right there
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Autistic Venom Siblings
#that’s it that’s the post#laughs nervously#is this anything#chaoticbuggybitchboy#danger days#text post#endangered gays fic#danger days the true lives of the fabulous killjoys#party poison#kobra kid#autistic kobra kid#ttlotfk#venom siblings
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venom !! ^_^
Venom from Venom is Autistic!
#autistic#autism#urfavisautistic#autistic character#neurodivergent#headcanon#autistic coded#autistic coded character#Venom#marvel#comics#movies
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