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Another translation I did! Please give it some love :)
(sample pages + twitter post)
Right here: https://twitter.com/oekakichan7/status/1649395629460951045 https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/107387799
#vegeta#chichi#gohan#goku#goten#bulma#trunks#vegeta gets bullied#doujinshi#dragon ball#dragon ball z#dragon ball super#fanmanga#japanese to english
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Why is the anime so weird, it's not even the same series dude?? It's like,
Anime:
GOKU: I have a great idea to bring peace to the universe, and my leadership and compassion alone will unite us all. I have No Flaws and am A True Relatable Everyman :)
VEGETA: NO! I AM THE BEST AND I WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS UNTIL I AM RECOGNIZED AS SUCH!!!!
Manga:
GOKU: Vegeta what's cornmeal made of? I know it's what the corn eats, but what's it made of? VEGETA: Hey Kakarot let's play the quiet game until one of us dies.
#dbtag#I do not understand this writing it's so bad aklsdlkasjd#Toei wants Goku to be Clark Kent SO bad and he SO isn't lmao#they're so good and dumb and rounded and complex in the manga what is the anime so afraid of#Toriyama said 'no no this man is a detached faux-immortal who has a dear pure heart but he's childlike and selfish even though he's kind'#and toei went 'got it goku's never done anything wrong ever in his life'#toriyama said 'Vegeta's gone through a lot and he's finally settling into his more mature leadership role with the confidence he's earned'#and toei said 'got it vegeta has the confidence of a high school bully except now he can interact with his family as a comedy bit'#girl hWHAT#Toei trying to group Goku and Vegeta as two people who would rather train than be with their families and Toriyama said NO Vegeta wants#to be HOME this is the first time in years that he's HAD ONE and it makes him HAPPY to be with his wife and children!!#Vegeta trains so that he can protect the things he doesn't want to lose again and Goku trains because it's the thing that makes him happies#They are NOT the same lmao And yeah Vegeta still wants to beat Goku but he also knows that Gohan could dogwalk both of them if he wanted#He also knows Trunks and Goten are going to surpass them it's not about being the best anymore he's past that he just wants to Not Need Gok#He just doesn't want to have to rely on Goku to save the day he wants to be Enough on his own he just wants to know he can be#because every time it's mattered he WASN'T and people he loved were lost to his inability to protect them and he carries that#Like Whis diagnosed him with anxiety and cptsd out in the open and Beerus said he was self-centered for feeling guilt#+ he lowkey enjoys the rivalry it keeps him goal-oriented so he can't get complacent and lazy which is what triggered his Buu Saga breakdow#realized how Fucked Up it was that having a home and loving family made him feel like he was failing and went 'wait no I won actually??'#now he's chill as fuck in the manga. cool confident leader.#and sometimes he is childish and dumb with Goku as a treat#you know what rocks about his rivalry with Goku in Super though is that it's Playful. Vegeta is learning how to Play.#You ever seen a shelter dog get introduced to a really playful dog and it takes a minute for the shelter dog to understand it's safe here#And then they're both running around the backyard playing hot potato with one braincell?? That's Goku and Vegeta's relationship#and the way the anime sleeps on that dynamic is so fucking criminal especially when it's literally canon it's in print it's out there#you had the playbook how'd you fumble it this bad#anyway that's my 25+ year blorbo thoughts I love Geets a lot okay#And I love Goku in the manga a lot I'd forgotten that he's actually a great character when Toei's not fucking up his whole vibe
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If it's alright, I think it would be interesting to see the evil Kings (Piccolo Daimao, Vegeta III, Cold and Dabura) hang out together like they're some sort of club.
mean girls
✨mean kings✨
#king piccolo#king cold#dabura#king vegeta#dragon ball z#sketch#pov you get bullied by bad bitches#fucken loved this req btw <3
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If Vegeta was real I would send him this:
And then enter witness protection in a new country, possibly on a new planet.
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@ the people who play Dragon Ball: The Breakers and actually have fun--
HOW DO YOU DO IT???
#CAUSE IT'S THE BACKBONE OF THE STRUGGLE BUS#GOING IN AND OUT OF SURVIVOR MATCHES EITHER GETTING COMPLETELY CLAPPED OR CARRIED#TO GO TO RAIDER AND GET GANGED UP ON EACH TIME#Reason why it's going on here it's cause I WANNA PLAY AS MY DAD VEGETA MORE BUT I CANT WHEN I GET BULLIED LIKE THIS--
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Hello there! Is it possible to request this? If not, that's ok! I have another request in mind if you can't do this one :] You can change something if you like.
Dad! Dragon Ball Super characters with a Stoic/Shy! GN! Teenage! Reader who's actually very powerful in terms of power and strength, but super pacifistic and scared of confrontation and fighting not because they're afraid of losing, but they're afraid of hurting or killing someone. Reader could be or is God levels of power and strength but won't tap into their powers because they dislike having to fight. On top of that, they're too generous and let people walk all over them, from family to friends to classmates to full on strangers.
(*Bonus: Reader is also hella intelligent, so they often work with Bulma in her lab.)
PLATONIC DB DAD HEADCANONS
DB VARIOUS X GN!READER
Tags; Krillin, Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Piccolo. No use of Y/N, Gender-Neutral Reader, Reader works in Bulma's lab.
Goku
Supportive but confused: What do you mean you don't enjoy fighting? Goku remembers that Gohan isn't much of a fighter as he used to be. He admires your strength and intelligence but sometimes struggle to grasp the fact that you avoid fighting at all costs and rather stay in Bulma's lab like your comfort zone. He would possibly encourage you to give it a try but nonetheless wouldn't peer pressure you to be uncomfortable.
Protective and defensive: He defends you if he'd witness people taking advantage of your generosity. Some people don't deserve your kindness. You're a strong person, you deserve better.
Unconditional Love: Overall he still loves you. You're his kid and regardless of what you choose to be, there's nothing that will come between that. You're working on a new invention? He's curious to see what's gotten you so attached to Bulma's lab. Maybe he can help you with your experiements if he's not training with Vegeta.
Vegeta
Vegeta would initially find your pacifism frustrating at first since he is all about 'embracing one’s Saiyan power'. He’d try to instill some pride in you, letting you know of your background and not to let some mere weakling walk over you.
Overtime he eventually tries comes to accept that fighting is not something you'd be willing to do, despite the incredible power you possess. Vegeta would every once in awhile try to push you out your comfort zone a little, to remind you of who you are as a person.
Protective mentor: Not much is needed to be said when it comes to others taking advantage of you. He'd scare bullies or manipulative people behind the scenes without needing to tell you. He is also most likely to teach you how to stand up for yourself and not let anyone beneath walk over you.
Piccolo
Understanding mentor: Piccolo would deeply understand your fear of confrontation. He’d see it as a strength rather than a weakness. Not everyone is meant to be set on getting into fighting / becoming a fighter and that's okay. He loves you the way you are; he doesn't judge you.
He’d focus on training you in self-control and mental resilience rather than combat. Piccolo would definitely teach meditation to help you feel more balanced and confident.
If people mistreated you by using your kindness and walking all over as they please, Piccolo wouldn’t hesitate to step in. However, he’d encourage you to set boundaries for yourself and to stand up for yourself more. There is nothing wrong with be kind but with all the lingering intent in the world, there's also times where you can't let that be used against you.
Piccolo would be quietly proud of your intelligence and contributions at the lab. He’d occasionally visit, asking questions about you work—not because he understands it all, but because he respects their passions. He's more interested to see how far you come along.
Gohan
Gohan honestly relates to your struggles with fighting, having dealt with his own pacifistic tendencies growing up and up to now. He’d share stories about his journey to finding balance and reassure you that it’s okay to dislike violence.
Not everyone is keen to resorting to violence and that's okay.
Gohan would be thrilled with your intelligence and would visit, keen to discuss latest projects. He’d probably help you with any research papers or experiments if needed.
Similar to Piccolo and Vegeta, Gohan would take notes to how others take advantage of you kindness and have gentle but firm talks about setting limits. Gentle protector: Gohan would step in if necessary but would mainly encourage you to stand up for themselves.
"It's okay to say no sometimes."
Gohan would be in awe of your strength and restraint, thinking it reflects a moral maturity beyond their years.“I’m proud of you—not just because you’re strong, but because of the person you are.”
Krillin
Krillin also would be very understanding. He’d tell them stories about how he used to feel intimidated by stronger fighters but found ways to grow in his own time.
He’d teach you basic self-defense techniques, making it known that you don’t have to fight, but knowing how to protect yourself would give you a peace of mind.
Krillin would worry about your generosity being exploited but trust that you'll be able to navigate these situations within time.“You’re stronger than you know—don’t let people take advantage of your kindness.” He'd tell you in hopes of encourage you to stand up to others.
Definitely brags and always brings up your intelligence and accomplishment. His kid can create inventions that no other being on this planet has ever came up with before. Heck, not even remotely close to it being. He even believes that you are just as smart as Bulma herself, if not smarter.
#dbs x reader#dbz oneshots#dbz x reader#dragon ball super x reader#gender neutral reader#x reader#goku & reader#vegeta & reader#gohan & reader#piccolo & reader#dbs oneshots#goku x reader#vegeta x reader#gohan x reader#piccolo x reader#krillin x reader
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DBZ Dub Rewatch Highlights (Namek edition)
●Vegeta calling himself a "friggin' genius" as he flies away giggling to himself
● Gohan and Krillin grabbing the dragon radar from Bulma, and telling her that Goku is on Namek (YAY!), but not mentioning that Gohan got his neck broken and Krillin almost died. Again. (NOT YAY!)
● Nail's back and forth sass with Freeza (the man said check with the chamber of commerce for information on the dragon ball password isisjudhd!!!)
● The stages of grief Ginyu goes through after getting exactly what he asked for in the form of Goku showing him his real power (a common occurrence for all DB villains)
● Jeice catholic-crossing himself right before Goku!Ginyu smacks the hell out of Krillin
● Vegeta bullying Frog!Ginyu and Goku saying Vegeta finally has someone his own size to pick on. Vegeta's response? "Whatever." kalfjlkajfkl
● Vegeta repeating Krillin after he says "Mondo cool" (seriously if you can't appreciate the wild lines from the Funi dub, in spite of their inaccuracies, you just hate fun)
● Gohan asking about the healing chamber after they put Goku in it: "older model? You don't have a newer one?" Vegeta: "ikindabrokeit. But don't worry, this one will work just fine."
● Vegeta actually counting Freeza down for his first transformation lmfaoooooo. "Are you serious?? Ugh fine, tennineeightsevensixfivefourthreetwoone HAPPY NOW??"
#dbz#dragon ball#ginyu#captain ginyu#krillin#vegeta#jeice#gohan#nail#freeza#dragon ball z#prince vegeta#frieza#son gohan#kuririn#riley watches anime#I'm having such a great time you guys
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I need Bakugou stans to realise that it's not that I hate him as a person. It's that I hate him as a character.
A lot of my favourite characters are unrepentant assholes, or assholes who are set to or have already been redeemed. Vegeta from DBZ, Ouma Kokichi from DGR: V3, Dio from JoJo, Laxus from Fairy Tail, Greed from FMA: B, Bill from Gravity Falls, and the list that goes on.
If a character is a terrible person, that's fine by me. But if the author tries and fails to redeem them, yet still acts as though they are suddenly this amazing person, that's when I have an issue with it.
Bakugou was originally written to be a minor antagonist, and that would have been fine, if Horikoshi didn't suddenly go "I drew him crying so imma fix him".
Redemption is such a complex yet simple thing to do. So when you try to do it and fail spectacularly, um, yeah, I do not enjoy that character or your writing.
That is my main issue with Bakugou. I do not think he deserved any redemption, not because he's a bad person, but because there is nothing to convince me that he could change.
He gets one scene where he goes, "boohoo I lost and everyone is stronger than me" then cries, and that's supposed to be enough for him to become a better person? That is nowhere near enough.
There was no moment that made me believe he genuinely regretted and took accountability for the abuse he put Izuku through in middle school.
"He changed!" That's not my issue. I don't care that he's changed. I care that I don't believe in it. If there was a plausible reason as to why he changed, then I would be fine with it. Maybe I'd even enjoy him!
The fact that he's changed doesn't mean shit if it's not believable.
"That was in middle school!" Okay. This one pisses me off the most. That was a year pre-canon? Oh, wow, I guess that's completely fine! It's not as if characters are the way they are based on their past. Oh, Itachi killed the Uchiha clan before canon! Okay, maybe comparing a massacre to bullying is a bit unfair. Still, just because it happened a year ago, it doesn't mean it never happened. It doesn't mean that he's changed considerably.
"Izuku doesn't have any lasting damage and forgave him!" And? Just because your friend forgives their bully, it doesn't mean you have to forgive them. And, again, I do not believe Bakugou's apology was good in anyway. He was trash-talking Izuku, blaming All Might for Izuku's behaviour, and didn't accept any culpability for what he did to him. He didn't tell anyone else what he did to Izuku. Also, if Izuku really didn't have any lasting damage from the bullying, then why did Bakugou's apology make him calm down? If he didn't care about the bullying, then why is he so relieved by the apology? BECAUSE HE WAS AFFECTED.
"Bakugou was being abused!" ... NO HE WASN'T!! Mitsuki is not abusive. Yes, she hit him round the back of his head. After he threatened her. Anyone with Asian parents can tell you that her hit does not hurt. Not only is it somewhat normal in Asian families, but it also doesn't hurt. We have no evidence that she is abusive. Horikoshi knows how to set up abusive families, as seen with the Todorokis. This not that. Either way, even if she was, being abused doesn't mean it's okay to abuse others. You can hurt without hurting others.
"It's the school and teacher's fault!" No, it's not. Part of the fault lies with them enabling him, but Bakugou is already fifteen when the series starts. His mother clearly doesn't agree with his attitude. The school is only partially to blame. Bakugou should have learned by himself what is right and what is not. In fact, he clearly does know considering he doesn't want any of that stuff on his records in case U.A. rejects him.
Again. I don't care if he's a terrible person. I care that he's a terrible character.
So the next time someone says that I'm stuck in Season One, take a moment and think about what you're saying. Bad people in fiction are entertaining. Bad characters are not.
#mha critical#bnha critical#anti bakugou katsuki#i hate bakugou so much you don't understand unless you do#he's a terrible character and a terrible person
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Some designs I drew up for "the next generation" for Dragon Ball! I'll provide a brief explanation for each.
Pan - Wanting to pursue training similar to her grandpa, Pan was brought over to Kame House to be trained in the way of the Turtle Hermit! However, with Master Roshi finally choosing to retire from the position, its Master Krillin who she's training under!
Goten - After graduating from high school, Goten took up his father's job of working at the Son family farm. Inheriting his father's Nimbus and Power Pole, he utilizes both to great effect. Even learning to infuse his ki with the Power Pole to make it much stronger! He wears a gi similar to his mother's, gotta rep your first master after all!
Bulla - Originally wanting to train with Pan, she immaturely wasn't fond of the training regimes and seeked training elsewhere, eventually ending up at the Crane School, now ran by Tien, who was not expecting to be training Vegeta's kid of all people.
Trunks - Often busy with studying and preparing to be the eventual CEO of Capsule Corp, Trunks is a lot more knowledgeable on all of the companies tech, carrying a few emergency capsules on him, just in case! The events of Wrath of the Dragon occur similarly, and thus Trunks inherits Tapion's sword.
Uub - After fighting Goku in the World Tournament, He expressed wanting to see Uub get stronger so they can fight again one day. Uub ventured out to Kame House to be trained as well around the same time as Pan, also training under Master Krillin. Marron - In a stark contrast to her younger self, Marron due to growing up hanging out with Goten and Trunks often grew interested in fighting, her becoming Krillin's first student. She still enjoys fashion and shopping with her mother, but also likes being a bit of a teasing bully, especially when it comes to bullying around Goten.
#art#dragon ball#digital art#illustration#artists on tumblr#artist on tumblr#character design#icebitez#dragon ball z#dragon ball super#dbs#dbz#db#pan#goten#bulla#trunks#uub#marron
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It's funny how these are technically 3 different chars
But due to sheer publicity of the latter 2 and bias, no one cares!
Let's elaborate
Rise of Lyric
RoL Shadow is a dick. However his main reason for fighting Sonic is entirely due to him fucking up in releasing Lyric. Unfortunately this is poorly explained, and most only saw the boss fight, so many assume he was just a bully for no reason
Post Final boss however
The teamwork dissing is important, I'll explain
In John Melchior's draft, the game was apparently meant to be more serious, but late dev Sonic Boom's brand was suddenly meant to be a comedy, so another writer took over to insert comedic elements along with prioritizing the *teamwork* gimmick. Whether Shadow was initially planned or not is debateable, but his dissing on it seems to have been the aftermath of this gameplay focus. It's also important to note that Shadow's origin is straight up not mentioned, and he's treated as a familiar
Shattered Crystal was made likely after this shift, hence
Shattered Crystal
So taking place in its own continuity, Shattered Crystal features Lyric wanting to use Amy's archeological knowledge to access ancient tech. Shadow is captured off screen and used as a pawn
When freed, he's confused and aggravated, especially upon finding that he was mind controlled. He however has no true hostility to Sonic unlike RoL, though mad dashes off to find the snake. Lyric in the end after the boss fight is taken out by him, then we get Stixk's crack teamwork speech
Again, Shadow specifies he's a loner, and weirdly states he's superior, but just leaves harmlessly
Meh attitude, though better than RoL in execution. This was written by Warren Graff, Ken Pontac, Tin Guerrero, interesting as it means they were aware of the brand distinction given differences to mainline
Meanwhile the TV Show
TV
Everyone knows of his infamous S1 finale apparence with him coming in on Eggman's villain council, calling them shit and leaving, then aggressively targeting Sonic and beating him up, says the fucking "shame to hedgehogkind" after breaking an IKEA cabinet entirely cuz...
He's evil
Why??? I really don't know
Season 2 is even dumber, you straight up have him want to nuke the entire universe. Again, villainous for no fucking reason
Even for Boom standards this is beyond stupid. He's an anti hero in SC, and nowhere purposefully destructive in RoL
People learned later about mandates from Sega, though it's important to note 2 things
-Shadow being an edgelord is entirely the writer's idea
-Sega barely wanted to use him in general for Boom TV
I can't stress this, for as much as fans pushed the "Sega wants bootleg Vegeta" narrative, nowhere do either writers say they were forced to. It was just them taking cynical piss at the "no jokes" mandate that clearly wasn't hard pressed given what happened, and did the surface level comparison that was common in the early 2000s. For as limiting as he was, they clearly did whatever the fuck they wanted given how much this contrasts with both Boom games
Ffs, they could've just had him petty at Sonic for taking the last burger at meh burger as a concept, there's a better way to have him be a dick
I'm honestly curious if his backstory would've ever been revealed in a later Boom game (hence the show being explicitly barred from making their own), but as we know, Boom was discontinued around 2016 game wise, and the show ended 2017
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Kids of the smartest woman on earth and her malewife alien.
I am. Very passionate about the Vegebul kids. Trunks got shelved and GT was a train wreck and Bulla deserves better. I hope Super will do more with her (probbaly not but let me dream).
I think Bulla is entitled and egotistical, much like her father who definitely treats her as though she’s the most important thing in the world. She’s the princess of all Saiyans- duh. But she is still steadfast, kind, and witty. She’s born with a natural tail but can’t achieve Super Saiyan to save her life. Her best friend is Pan and she also deserves to fight. I refuse to believe Bulla could get away with never learning to fight under her father’s roof. Her fighting style is acrobatic, more on the defense than hard-hitting, having to adapt because SSJ1 is kinda beyond her for reasons she can’t really grasp.
Trunks is the opposite but still very similar. Cocky but socially awkward, very powerful but doubts himself a lot. He’s a very protective older brother, especially when he and Bulla can start training together. He was born with no tail yet his ascension abilities are top notch, obviously as per canon. With Bulla, he’s the most elder brother person ever. All of the bullying and teasing and knocking stuff over in her room for no reason but he equally spoils her and definitely thinks she’s his better half.
And hear me out— we should be grateful Vegeta’s more. Dominant. Characteristics didn’t win on the punnet square but. Trunks is a spitting image of Vegeta (same nose, eyes, strong brow, heart shaped but sharp face) with a build like Bulma (taller, broad shouldered, lean). Meanwhile Bulla is a good mix in the face of her parents (Bulma’s eyes but Vegeta’s irises, Vegeta’s nose and height, Bulma’s lips and jaw) but she’s on the shorter side. Both have widows peaks reminiscent of Vegeta’s though… just not as. Yeah. Five head.
But they have Bulma’s laugh, Briefs hair color, elegance, and her smarts. :3
#db#dbz#dbs#dbgt#drsgon ball#dragon ball z#dragon ball gt#bulla briefs#bra briefs#trunks briefs#fanart#love these goobers#justice for bulla#also yes I have Bulla a tail cope + ratio + I’m right
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Since you mentioned the name several times now I looked up who Nikki Maxwell is. From the basic description of her on her wiki page I can kinda see some similiarities to Marinette and now I wonder if you have some more in-depth comparisons between the two to share that would explain your remark on Marinette beeing a copy of her. I think the description of the character doesn't make her seem particularly unique and a character-type I'd expect to appear often in these kind of youth novels.
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Sure thing! Here's some fun facts about the Dork Diaries series, one of the most best-selling kids’ books of the 2000s, that have been translated into 50+ languages, including French:
Nikki's iconic look is having her hair in pigtails.
She often babysits a small girl with pigtails.
She is a good artist.
She is, despite her poor self esteem, very talented in many areas.
She is extremely clumsy and prone to getting into embarrassing situations.
She gets overly embarrassed about the most inconsequential things.
She has a tendency for highly exaggerated panic spirals, where she comes up with imaginary scenarios that are full of fantastical events and are often illustrated in an anime/manga style.
She gets mad easily and it can take her a while to get over perceived slights.
She’s a bad liar but people believe her anyway.
She is a huge hypocrite, who often does things she claims to not do. (Unlike Marinette, her internal narration almost always points this out.)
She has a crush on a boy in her class, mostly based on the fact that he is nice, and her rival in school also likes him.
Brandon, said crush, is very popular but still a loner, and socially awkward.
MacKenzie, Nikki's rival, is a rich blonde bully who wears diamonds often (and very familiar-looking sunglasses at one point). Despite her vast resources, she always loses against Nikki in whatever they're competing in.
MacKenzie is a more classic “queen bee”, than Chloé, but does get called such canonically.
MacKenzie eventually transfers schools because she stopped having power and prestige over her classmates.
Nikki's biggest character flaw is a lack of communication, where she puts off telling people things she thinks they won't like hearing. (Unlike Marinette, she actually has to make it up to people when they find out she's been lying to them.)
A typical plotline in Dork Diaries is that, despite being well-liked, having devoted friends and caring parents, Nikki often hides her problems from them and struggles needlessly.
Nikki eventually gains a secondary love interest, André, who looks eerily similar to Luka in illustrations, in addition to having Astruc's favorite French guys' name.
Nikki's classmates include characters named Max, Chloe and Zoe, with Chloe and Zoe being closely associated with each other. (You know what I always say: two is a coincidence, three is a pattern, and we're now counting four same names.)
Many of these things are, to be fair, very basic school drama protagonist cliches. However, when it's this much similarity between two supposedly unrelated characters, especially with some of the highly specific similarities here, like the animesque imagine spots, it's a pattern and not a coincidence. Is the pattern that there's some template both Nikki and Marinette are based on (like how Vegeta and Hiei’s similarities are because they’re both based off the same older character), or did Astruc copy his protagonist from a mega hit of children’s, especially girls’, literature to try to copy that success? Who knows. It's not like we can expect Astruc to be honest about whether or not he copied Marinette's personality from literature.
I know Astruc hasn't actually read the stuff he claims to have read, so that's a point in favor of Astruc being a too lazy reader to copy someone else's work. However, he must have grown familiar with all these tropes somehow. You can’t hit this many hallmarks of a genre without being somewhat familiar with it, and this genre is the most prolific in literature, and there is research data showing that children often prefer either books or television, so he could reasonably expect the audience not to realize how copy-pasted Marinette is.
Miraculous and Dork Diaries share DNA. How directly they’re related I can’t tell, because I’m not that knowledgeable about the school drama genre.
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something something foils moving in opposite directions Goku's always happy to seek and fight stronger opponents because he spent most of his life being the strongest guy in the room and Vegeta wants to be the strongest/is always exhausted to find stronger opponents because he spent most of his life having to navigate his survival around the whims of the strongest guy in the universe room and so Goku has a foundation of safety and stability and so spends his time craving challenge and adventure and Vegeta has a foundation of challenge and adventure and spends his time craving safety and stability and the overlaid section of their venn diagram is that the only way they know how acquire and maintain those things is through battle
#thank you this has been the laziest media analysis post of my career#dbtag#media analysis#something something a game to goku is a threat to vegeta etc#there's a pinned thought here about how Vegeta also didn't learn about the dragon balls until he was ?? 30?? and so all loss is permanent#and goku has been familiar since he was ~12 and hasn't faced a permanent consequence since he was 10 years old and even then he got closure#sometimes I think about how Vegeta saw Trunks die and how Krillin was mad at him for reacting since they could fix it with the dragon balls#but Vegeta has very limited experience with the dragon so to him in that moment that was permanent and Trunks was Dead. Forever.#And we talked before in a 2am post about Vegeta having never experienced grief born of love and I stand by it because his feelings then wer#still very new and very odd and not something he'd accepted until that moment so it was raw power but not as powerful as it could've been#all this to say in my heart of hearts I think Vegeta deserves to retire at the end of super (if super continues) -- not as a warrior#but as an infantryman. he's a prince and now he's got his domain and his family and his planet to look after and I think he deserves#to go home and stay home and help piccolo bully gohan into training more often when goku inevitably leaves to hop the multiverse#geets wanted to take a sabbatical when Bulla was born but didn't get the chance because Freeza coming back freaked him out too much#but whether freeza gets a redemption arc or gets defeated -- Granolah's arc seemed to shift his perspective on being the strongest#and I just grips fist I just think it would be a really nice full circle for Vegeta to inherit his throne in a way he never expected and#finally get his kingdom to look after and protect in the way that he was looking forward to being king of his own planet all those years ag#Goku's got Broly and Jiren and Hit and all the others to keep him busy and happy now -- and if Freeza gets a redemption arc he'll probably#continue playing slap-ass with Goku for the rest of his life -- and Vegeta's got Gohan and Piccolo and Goten and Trunks#I just think them getting a nice bittersweet 'This is where we part ways' would be really nice for both of them because !!#They couldn't have done this without each other. They couldn't have known this kind of life was possible without each other.#So they swap lots and live happier than they ever imagined they could be#especially since Vegeta has proved to himself that he can close any gap Goku creates in progress that's not a concern anymore#And obvs the door's always open!! There's no point closing it Vegeta's tried the locks they don't work on Goku#anyway here's me putting the whole essay in the tags again#this isn't an essay as much as it is stream of consciousness tag blogging#anyway i'm too lazy to write fic or draw comics so we get ramblings instead
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At first I thought the reason that I didn't like Bakugou was his deeply grating and aggressive attitude problem. The fact that he suicide bated someone in his introduction and we are all supposed to forget that didn't help.
But then I started and finished all of dragon ball z. Vegeta is so much worse that Bakugou objectively. Bakugou is just a middle school bully with delusions of grandeur. Vegeta is a planet destroying war criminal. Even in terms of attitude problems Vegeta has Bakugou beat. Vegeta's pride puts Bakugou's inferiority/superiority issues to shame.
And yet despite all of this I really really like Vegeta as a character. He was great every time he was on screen and I enjoyed his slow redemption arc.
Why is that?
I think the issue is in the goals of the respective series. Dragon ball is about being stronger and improving yourself. Bnha is about becoming heros.
It really grates at me that Bakugou's goal is going to be a hero. Which is essentially, and idol that has the power to arrest people. That's a lot of authority to give bully. It's especially grating that Bakugou never seems to realize just how far out of reach his goal is, not because of his lack of power, but because he sucks as a person. He has yet to become a decent person let alone be revered as a hero.
Vegeta meanwhile wants to get stronger and beat Goku. A clear objective that he is constantly working towards and always comes just short of achieving. I honestly can't help but root for that bastard.
There is also a stark difference between how they are treated by the other characters and narrative.
Vegeta is tolerated by most of the cast because they have far bigger problems and need all the fighters they can get. Also over half of the Z fighters have tried to kill Goku at one point or another and few of them have a strict sense of justice. So it doesn't feel weird that they are friends/allies. Vegeta simply put doesn't warp the characters around him.
Bakugou meanwhile is surrounded by heroes and hero students. And all on them are cool with him despite him nearly murdering Izuku in the battle trials. His shitty attitude doesn't prevent him from making friends when it realistically would. Bakugou warps the narrative around him.
Their redemption arcs are handled differently too.
Bakugou's main (and only) victim is the protagonist and that's the only thing that keeps him relevant to the plot. It's not crazy for me to expect an apology and a proper reflection on what he has done a lot sooner than chapter 322. Even after this he keeps being a jerk. The manga is going to be finished soon. This is taking far to long.
Vegeta's redemption takes far longer than Bakugou's. Yet it doesn't feel like it takes forever. Maybe this is because Vegeta actually contributes to the plot in other ways. Such as, his constant quest to get stronger, everything related to Freiza, and his relationships to his new family on earth. His sacrifice remains iconic too. I really really doubt Bakugou's will be.
Characters have a habit of saying that Bakugou has changed while he hasn't. Vegeta meanwhile says that he achieved super sainin because his heart is pure, pure evil! Which is a neat difference.
Vegeta is a better character for me because, he doesn't warp the characters around him, the narrative doesn't say he's changed until he actually changed, and he has interesting stuff going on outside his relationship with the protagonist.
So yeah. I guess all character archetypes can be enjoyable and it really does all depend on the writer.
All of this. There are characters who’ve done far worse than Katsuki. Vegeta and Zuko are perhaps the two most popular characters that come to mind. The difference is that their egos are constantly knocked down, they face actual trials, experience loss due to their actions, and ultimately denounce their old ways and aim to correct their wrongs. Katsuki’s ego is never knocked in any logical way, he never has his faults thrown at his face, never had to face conflict, and is treated as being some amazing person by the narrative.
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Saiyan Squad AU (part 1) ⭐️
The Saiyan homeworld is Sadala (because Planet Vegeta is ridiculous), but its capital city is Vegeta, where, of course, the royal family resides. Sadala itself is a conglomerate of Australia, Asia, and Africa and the Saiyans are a mishmash akin to the Spartans, Celts, Aztecs, and Mongols. Sadala is pretty much like a space version of Australia: it’s a chaotic death trap from its climate and wildlife to its inhabitants. The Saiyans are made up of clans and have a feudal system, but they all serve the one ruling monarch.
Saiyans act as mercenaries and hunters. Like Predator, they are best known for traveling galaxies to find worthy opponents to fight. They’re feared and reviled as a race of barbaric savages.
They also look more animalistic: they have pointed ears, sharper teeth, claws, and some fur on their bodies.
Saiyans have had a feud with the Cold Empire for a very long time. At one point, they were allied together but the Cold Empire looked down at the Saiyans and began to subjugate them, so the Saiyans started resisting which led to all out war. When Frieza came to power, he amped up the war. He killed King Vegeta III but spared his young son, Vegeta III, to make the boy his puppet king/child hostage.
The city of Vegeta’s center is where the royalty live, while its outskirts is made up of the slums the third class inhabit. This is where Raditz and Kakarot are born and live with their parents Gine and Bardock. Gine serves as a cook to the troops and the residents while Bardock is a captain of his own troop. Gine and Bardock both teach the boys about hunting but Bardock is mostly in charge of their combat training. The boys start their formal training at five-years-old and are put in the same unit as young king Vegeta.
Raditz is the atypical rough and crass Saiyan boy, but Kakarot is another story. He inherited Gine’s kind heart and good nature, making him seem as weak by most Saiyans. He’s unfortunately treated as an outcast and subjected to bullying from his peers. However, he’s passionate and hard-working and wants to become a great and strong warrior, like his big brother and dad, so he’s committed to training hard. It pays off and he makes enough progress so that when his father Bardock talks with the higher-ups he’s able to convince them to put Kakarot on the same unit as Raditz and Vegeta under Nappa, Vegeta’s guardian.
The Saiyan-Frieza feud reaches its turn years later, when Vegeta approaches age fifteen. By then, he’s old enough by law to rule on his own and he’s determined to break free from Frieza’s grasp. As Vegeta begins to secure his independence and throne and wiggle free, Frieza has become fed up with the Saiyans and sees them as a genuine threat. The final nail in the coffin is when he and his men consult the Kanassans on the future of Frieza’s reign. A Kanassan oracle foretells that Frieza will meet his end at the hands of a golden warrior, presumed to be the legendary Super Saiyan. Frieza straight away comes up with a diabolical plan.
To everyone’s surprise, Frieza not only agrees to Vegeta ruling independently, he also agrees to signing a truce with the Saiyans and ending the bad blood for good. In celebration, a formal coronation is held for Vegeta along with ecstatic festivities all over Sadala. Every Saiyan is recalled back to homeworld for the momentous occasion. However, Bardock and his troop stumble upon Frieza’s real plan: to get all the Saiyans together in one place, make them vulnerable, and destroy them all along with their planet altogether. Bardock’s team is attacked and killed to quiet them but Bardock survives and despite being wounded he races to tell everyone and save his family.
Bardock barely makes it back in time. Just as he’s warning the others, Frieza’s soldiers attack and Frieza himself forms a Death Ball to strike at Sadala. Saiyans desperately try to fight back and escape, but many are killed by Frieza soldiers and many more as the Death Ball collides and the planet begins to destruct. Bardock fights on while trying desperately to find his family.
During Sadala’s destruction, Gine and teenaged Raditz and ten-year-old Kakarot manage to find a pod, but it can only fit two of them. Gine makes the boys get in and go without her, assuring it will all be fine (she knows she’s probably not going to make it, but at least her children will be safe). Sadala finally explodes into oblivion just as Raditz & Kakarot make it to safety. Bardock barely makes it out in time. Gine doesn’t make it.
The Saiyans are thusly reduced to the brink of extinction as only a few thousand remain. Surviving Saiyans flee to a desolated planet to recover. This includes Vegeta, Nappa, Raditz, Kakarot, and Bardock (who barely made it out in time). Because of his wounds, Bardock is put in a comatose state in a healing tank for a few days.
In spite of the loss of Sadala and the majority of the Saiyans, Vegeta swears revenge on Frieza. All remaining Saiyans are ordered to group up and spread out across the galaxies. The war against the Frieza Empire is to continue by any means necessary. Saiyans resort to whipping up secret settlements on planets and fighting back via piracy and guerrilla warfare. The endgame is to tear down Frieza’s empire brick by brick and, ultimately, kill Frieza himself.
Vegeta calls on Raditz and Kakarot to join him and Nappa on his quest to hunt and kill Frieza. Vegeta initially doesn’t want to include Kakarot, whom he deems a liability, but acquiesces.
Frieza puts out a bounty on each and every remaining Saiyan, most of all on the “so-called King of Saiyans” Vegeta.
And so, the Vegeta Force moves out. But they become known as the “Saiyan Squad”. Vegeta and Raditz don’t like it, but Kakarot thinks it’s a cool name.
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Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Archive Warning: No Archive Warnings Apply Category: F/M Fandom: Dragon Ball Relationship: Bulma Briefs/Vegeta Characters: Vegeta (Dragon Ball), Bulma Briefs Additional Tags: Mentioned Trunks Briefs, Mentioned Bulla Briefs, Inspired by The Amazing Race, Screenplay/Script Format, Comedy, Competitive Bulma Briefs, Competitive Vegeta (Dragon Ball), Vegebulocracy's 2024 Secret Saiyan Exchange (Dragon Ball)
Trunks and Bulla bully, bribe, and manipulate their parents into becoming reality television stars. Shockingly, their parents get a little bit competitive about it. Written for @vegebulocracy's Secret Saiyan exchange for @robynx! The chosen prompt was: "An adventure. It can be any AU or canon. Creator's freedom."
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