#vegans confuse me

[aikoiya]

I just do not understand the insistence that animals must be sentient.

Because if they were, then why are the animals that kill other animals not labeled as murderers?

Hell, why aren't cats seen as malicious, mini, jigsaw killers considering how they play with their food. Why aren't ewes looked upon with disgust for often trampling orphaned lambs that a farmer tries to get them to adopt? Why aren't wolves seen as bullies for hunting in packs to kill prey? Why aren't dolphins more acknowledged for being effing rapists?

If you believe that animals are capable of reasoning, then that automatically makes all animals that eat meat into exactly what humans that eat meat are, thus they should be looked upon with every bit as much scorn as certain vegans look upon regular ass people. And it'd also mean that any animal that hunts is a murderer.

Hell, many animals are cannibals! In fact, plenty even eat the young of other animals or even their own young if they're so much as lacking in B12!

Literally! Mother hamsters are known to eat her own babies if she's put on an all-corn diet! They don't even have to be dying because of it!

You can't claim that animals are all sentient & then not hold them responsible for their actions! That's hypocritical! Because if these animals are sentient, then they are making the active decision to commit these actions & should be held acountable for them! Period!

Seriously, unless an animal is specifically an obligate herbivore, they will likely still eat meat given the chance!

And, whether you like it or not, animals are only as vegan as their options. As soon as times get tough for a deer, it's gonna be eyeing up any little Tweeties or Thumpers they come across. Same with horses, sheep, ect.

In fact, if animals are as deserving of life & respect as us, then doesn't that make having pets the same as slavery? And how do cat owners even justify feeding their pets? At least those that force their cats into a vegan lifestyle are being consistent even though they're abusing the poor things. Those cats aren't gonna live to be 10 years old on a diet like that & they'll be miserable the whole time.

Like, how do people twist their brains into so many directions just to justify their lifestyles??

Seriously, humans are so freaking unique within the animal kingdom. We are probably the only creatures who would do all this nonsense for the sake of critters that honestly don't give an eff.

Like, dude, whatever. You don't wanna eat meat, then don't. No skin off my brow. More brisket for me! But don't moralize your choice & don't demonize those who love a delicious steak.

Here's what some don't seem to understand; those animals are gonna die anyway, whether it's by the hand of man, a predator animal, sickness, or old age. Their days are numbered no matter what. And, quite frequently, they'll still get eaten. So, in the end, what's the difference if a sheep is eaten by a human or a buzzard or a coyote?

You didn't save that sheep's life. You only postponed the inevitable. Because if you're not the one who eats it, then someone or something else will. You cannot stop it.

And it's likely going to hurt regardless, so saying shit like "anything to reduce at least a little bit of the pain in the world" is just pure naiveté. You haven't reduced the pain in the world even a little. And in fact, considering how a lot of animals don't even care if their food is all-the-way dead as they're eating them, you could even say that that animal might end up experiencing even more pain than if they'd been killed by a human.

And that isn't even taking into account sickness or accidents! How do you know that that animal's last moments won't be spent in complete misery or abject fear??

Because one of the things about humans is that, for the most part, we prefer our food dead-dead before we eat it. And we intentionally go out of our ways to make death as painless a transition as possible, even for the animals we're gonna eat.

If we're gonna keep it 100, ya'll. Humans can be some of the gentlest, most merciful killers on earth.

Hell, we have laws against animal cruelty!

And, the thing is, animals... don't. Period. In fact, most don't make it to old age.

So, in the end, your efforts were meaningless.

[dnpbeats]

guys I’ve been too afraid to ask this but enough is enough is dan still doing that “I’m vegan but I cheat sometimes” thing he was doing in like 2017 or does he just eat fucking whatever but generally tries to avoid meat(/animal products ?) bc I can’t figure it out

[sleepyc63]

i think we as a fandom should collectively rename inv/enot x saint's ship name. godmode is cool but eggsalad is cooler. blink if you agree

[perilegs]

every time there's a (chain) restaurant that stops using finnish meat i die inside a bit. like. first of all your image will suffer. it's more ecological to get things made near you. you should realize that even if you don't care about anything. and yeah i barely eat meat but i do care about animal wellbeing so i'm capable of understanding that since people at large will keep eating meat, it's good to support the industry in a country where it's actually mandatory to treat your animals somewhat well and raise them in clean environments and where antibiotics are only used if an animal is sick. and not as a preventive measure so you can raise them in dirty environments. does antimicrobial resistance say nothing to you. also this is exactly why, if i had a pet, i'd be unwilling to buy them food that has meat from a country where i don't know about how the butchery works. bc it supports everyone from the animals to the consumers and their pets and whatever to have meat that's raised with prevention of diseases with the help of systematic health care work and hygiene and literally just not dumping antibiotics into poor animals in poor conditions. thats how you get e coli. my god. all that so you can get slightly cheaper ingredients. insane.

[backgroundnoisewithaview]

As ever, tagged by the wonderful @novemberhush (over on my other account)

Last song - Work by Rihanna.

Last book - Good Morning, Midnight. For university. I can't say I enjoyed it, it felt like watching a car crash you can't help but look away from but I had no choice because I have to write an essay about it.

Last show - Chicago Med. I'm running out of free episodes to watch and I have to say with the way my fave is being treated, I'm not too bothered about continuing.

Last movie - I don't think I've seen a film since uni started up. This might be my CFS brain playing silly buggers. If i've mentioned watching a movie recently, I genuinely can't remember. But I think it was Stargate back in September.

Last thing I looked up/googled - name generator. Please say a warm welcome to a new OC for a fic I might never finish, Samuel Stewart.

Looking forward to - Finishing this damn degree, my friend's wedding before Christmas, my other friend's wedding after Christmas, and sleeping.

I'm going to tag @paulmescalsnose, @astrophysicist-guitar-god, @chaoskiro and @plainxte but nobody is *ahem* under pressure to do this if they don't want to.

[itsbrucey]

wanna draw the dad's bullying my OC Dulcie. Not in an actually mean way but the way they treated Doug. Because that's fun

[bluespring864]

*TW for eating disorders* I remember reading Novak would practically starve himself in late 2017/early 2018. He was in a dark place. Would practice for hours and not even allow himself water. When his coach who he rehired in 2018 found out about it, he put an end to it. I think one of the terms for his coach (Vajda) to work with him again was that Novak had to introduce more food to his diet. He’s so stubborn. Had to learn the hard way that the one-two punch of a low-carb gluten-free diet coupled with veganism was not at all sustainable for an athlete of his calibre.

Interesting. Do you have any sources for that? I mean, this is the kind of story I've often heard in high-level sports, especially individual sports, so it could cetainly be plausible... athletes getting crazily obsessed with the way they eat and with their weight etc. but I haven't seen anything this extreme in relation to Novak. I think I saw an article once about Vajda saying he needs to eat 'more fish' or something but it's still quite a leap from there to 'he didn't allow himself water'. What seems very clear from the profiles and articles I've read is that he isn't vegan (and I don't think he ever has been?), nor vegetarian, even though that is often a talking point about him. He seems to eat gluten-free and lactose-free and avoid most meats, and a quick google just gave me articles from 10 years ago and recent articles mentioning exactly that, so it doesn't look like this has fluctuated extremely over the years. It might have, of course, but as i said, I don't like to speculate too much. This is the stuff I can read in at least halfway credible sources.

Edit: I have been informed by other fans that he had a strict vegan phase for a few years, which does explain the confusion in the media about it. However, the water thing sounds really sus to me, and I haven't had anyone confirm that.

[hylianengineer]

We just had a class discussion in Spanish about what it means to be a responsible consumer, and the level of ignorance is kind of making my head explode.

I heard several people say things like, oh I'm a responsible consumer because I recycle. One person even said "Yeah I recycle I have lots of Amazon boxes."

facepalm

I'm glad they're recycling, I really am, but I wish they would realize that recycling is not where responsible consumption ends! (Most people also recycle incorrectly but that's a story for another post).

To be a responsible consumer doesn't just mean thinking about what you do with your trash after you generate it. It means trying to generate less waste in the first place. It means thinking about where the stuff you buy comes from and how its production, use, and disposal affects both the planet AND people. If you buy from Amazon on the regular without checking to see if there are alternatives, maybe you should be thinking about where your purchases come from. Sometimes there aren't alternatives, and that's not your fault, you gotta do what you need to to survive. But maybe think about it?

[scenicphoenix]

I care for my sister a lot, I really do. But some of the things she says and does just makes me so upset. Honestly I would like to cut contact. But I only know two to three people in real life and my sister is one of them, and my sister is legally blind and needs help getting places. (Mom won't be around forever and she isn't showing an interest in getting to know other people besides me and Mom)

She has no idea what boundaries are, and is so oblivious that it seems like she's trying to be malicious. I know she's not doing a lot of what she does to me specifically on purpose, but there is only so much I can take. Especially when she just doesn't listen to me even when I am practically begging her to just stop. I have had to pull the Mom card recently to get her to stop crossing my boundaries. She listened to mom and her counselor before the person literally saying "fucking stop". She had to be told by two people, who should have had nothing to do with our fight, that she had completely crossed a line and did everything completely wrong she possibly could have done wrong. Instead of the person begging her to stop, to stop crossing the line, to stop talking, to just stop. What is it about me that she won't respect. Is it because I'm the little sibling, is it because I wasn't perfectly fucking calm. She called my anger irrational. I think my anger was perfectly rational. With the shit she was doing and saying. With her once again crossing my boundaries even though I have shown her where the line is. Even when I literally said stop and she continued anyway.

There is just some things me and my sister should not be talking about. Because we have different opinions. We have different morals. So some topics are off limits. She often ignores this. An example of a topic? She's a Terf. She's into a particular anime trope. I have told her not to mention that anime trope. She likes to say that the anime trope isn't transphobic because it's "only in anime". Hell some of her views on things are enough for me to want to try and cut contact. She's bigoted and falls so easily down far right conspiracy rabbit holes. She's listened to Fox fucking news over me and sources I've shown her. Her morals are very middle-class bigoted white woman, cares more about animal welfare than human beings, she's into eugenics no matter how much she denies it. Which I find confusing because both me and her grew up disabled in major poverty in the goddamned country. I suppose my sister is proof of how strong propaganda and misinformation is. How does someone in the country think shearing sheep kills them, that all animal farming is bad. And yet also ignores that slavery still exists. And the thing is that when I told her our morals are different because I care more about people and she cares more about animals, she didn't deny it. She wanted to, but she couldn't.

Why won't she listen to anything I say but will with others? How come she disrespects me more than anyone else? She has done this even before I was trans, so I know it's not that. She has even asked herself why she treats me differently than others. So she realizes that she does this but doesn't know why. My best guesses are: I am the little sibling I am supposed to be dumber. My mood disorders and overall mental health. My physical resemblance to our dad, she has BAD memories of that asshole. She's competitive. She wants things to be like "the old days" even though the "old days" she remembers never really existed.

[dragpinkman]

ive seen adult eat the "carnivore diet" aka meat and dairy products only and thats whatever. i mean its definitely not good for you but you're an adult so. but i just re-download instagram and saw on the top a post about this lady feeding her kindergarten aged son like that. insanity what

[nighttime-acrobatics]

Given the terrible ship name for male/deadname me is Logurt(it sounds like we are some sort of low fat yogurt) may I suggest an equally bad and confusing ship name logan and I...... I give you Ve-gan.

[the-awkward-goldfish]

just remembered how my high school, inexplicably, allowed an animal rights activist lady to come into spanish classes (of all things??) and give presentations trying to like, scare us into becoming vegans. notable rhetorical tactics included basically saying that if you eat meat you will get fat and get diabetes (i pointed out that my very much skinny uncle very much has type 2 diabetes and she just like, ignored me) and namedropping random celebrities who are vegan/vegetarian

[evitamylove]

Me, watching an asmr video of invasive snail eggs being crushed: Aww i feel a little bad for em, though i know this is necessary.

Some rando with a BTD Lawrence pfp and nothing but goreporn on his profile: DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT EAT FUCKING MEAT OR ANIMAL BYPRODUCTS?!

Me: .......What?

[kissitbttr]

miguel putting up with his girl’s princess attitude

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“miguel!” you call out from the bathroom as your fingers delicately fix the straps of your bodycon dress. “can you come here for a minute?”

miguel sighs, this is the third time you keep calling him knowing how busy he is at the moment. work has gotten the best of him, and if reinventing new techs back to back isn’t enough to drain him, he has to keep up with your needs daily.

does he has the courage to say no to you, though? nope. as much as he hates to admit it because it’s embarrassing, he’s scared of you. if the spider society think that Miguel is too frightening then they have not seen you get mad or being a brat.

“coming, baby!” he walks out of his office while taking off his glasses, rolling the sleeves of his henley shirt to his elbows.

the bathroom door is left wide open, immediately seeing you standing before the mirror in a long and tight fitting grey dress that falls just around your ankles. and just like that, his annoyance completely washed off,

he takes a good look at you. eyes slowly observing every single detail of your face and down to your body. the way that dress hugs your curves and accentuate your best assets should be a crime,

God, you’re such a perfection.

“shut your mouth before you catch flies, babe” you jokingly say as your fiancee stares at you with his jaw slightly agape. “mind helping me?”

Miguel clears his throat after, slightly smirking as he shrug his shoulders. he leans against the door way with his arms crossed, eyes never leaving yours.

“you look absolutely divine, mi amor.” he comments, taking his lower lip between his teeth. “is that new?” he points at the dress,

rolling your eyes playfully, you try to keep your composure still. even after three years of dating—now engaged— he still manages to make your heart skips and create butterflies in the pit of your stomach,

“I know” you reply in confidence, winking at him which he chuckles in return. “and yes it is! it’s SKIMS! got it yesterday, does it look good on me?”

he frowns, tilting his head to the side. “baby, you already know the answer to that come on now… you make anything look sexy.” he strides closer to you as he stands from behind you, “now, què necesitas?” he questions, resting his hands on his hips

you find it attractive how he towers over you, and it’s one thing that you love about him. it’s not that you’re petite or anything. but compared to how tall and big he is, you’re definitely tiny.

“straighten my hair for me please? I can’t reach it” you pout at him through the mirror, “just this part right here” fingers move to the back to touch part of your hair,

“ay dios mio, woman… you’re lucky i love you” he teases before grabbing the iron from the sink. “going out with the girls, mami? i assume lunch?” he asks as he starts parting your hair with one hand,

your head shakes, straightening the dress. “no, I’m doing cake testing today and wedding dresses … Darla is bringing three more flavors.”

he stops what he’s doing, giving you a confused look. “alone? cariño why didn’t you tell me? you know I’d come with you” he feels a bit disappointed and now guilty that he’s busying himself with work and instead you’re left dealing with your wedding, alone.

his hand rests on your shoulder and you move yours on top of him. “hey, it’s okay, Miggy… you’ve been so stressed lately i do not want to put more pressure… it was last minute anyway, she texted me this morning.”

“you’re my girl, i would never be too busy for you.” he says almost too fast,

giving him a sincere smile, you nod your head. “yes… i know, baby. trust me it’s okay…plus it’s bad luck for the groom to see his bride in a wedding dress” you giggle a bit. “we can go over the seating arrangements again together, yeah? i promise” you plant a soft kiss on his finger,

Miguel exhales a sigh, still feeling tiny bit upset that he won’t be there to keep you company. “okay, fine… tell Darla that keep vegan options open for the cakes.”

“noted, honey.” you tell him as he continues to straighten your hair, “is everything okay with work?”

he nods, eyes too fixated on your long hair, not wanting to mess up a single strand. “just running over a few reports and fixing few minor defects on the techs and my suit…the last guy did quite a number on me.”

“hmm i love it when you speak science to me” you comment, watching him laugh a bit at your flirty remark. “but you still need to be careful. i do not want to see my future husband all bruised up when i walk down that aisle or else I’ll leave your ass.” your tone comes off demanding and firm, but it’s only because you care.

“yes ma’am” he replies, setting down the hot object down on the sink before slowly running his fingers through your hair. “there you go, baby” he moves your hair to the front, kissing your cheek and seeing you smile just makes him happy. knowing he’s done a great job.

turning around to face him, you stand on your toes to kiss his lips. “thank you, miggy… I’ll see you later, okay? we can go grab dinner outside and then movie night at 9?”

his heart warms at that and lips stretches into a large grin. “sounds like a plan.” then he lightly slaps your ass as you walk out of the door,

“let me know if there’s going to be bunch of assholes staring at you today, I’ll hunt them down and fucking kill them on the spot.” he mentions as if it’s nothing

and they say romance is dead.

-

cake testing with miggy!

[an-ruraiocht]

#OH MY GOD FELLOW TINE FOOT PERSON#yeah im like EU 35 i think? it's so bad#it's so hard to find shoes that aren't pink and sparkly#but on the other hand#pur lord and savior velcro

imagine how i feel as someone who also hates velcro because it is a sensory Very Bad for me

i want my shoes to have LACES i want my shoes to be MANLY i want them to be WATERPROOF and COMFORTABLE and DARK COLOURS so they don't show the bike oil because i'm a cycle commuter

just because i am a size 3-3.5 does not mean i should not get to have these things!!!

but half the time i can't even shop women's shoes let alone men's shoes which is what i would actually WANT to wear

i am a total convert to barefoot shoes in that they fuck my knees up way less, but my feet get really cold in my current ones, so i'm trying to find some winter boots

however the company i got my current ones from doesn't have any winter boots in my size because i wear their children's sizes and apparently they don't make a suitable winter boot for kids. devastating. and let me tell you it is so fucking hard to find a pair of barefoot winter boots in my size that actually ships to the UK (and that isn't made of plastic) (fuck plastic shoes all my homies hate plastic shoes)

[iguessthisisanewobsession]

Danny: So I may have did a bit of an oopsie daisy.

Jazz: … define a bit.

Danny: you know how you were telling me about the two main ways of conditioning?

Jazz: Yes?

Danny: And you remember how I said Pavlov’s dog sounded strangely familiar?

Jazz watching her brother pace: Danny?

Danny: Well, there’s this guy in my lit class who was very pretty and I heard he was vegan and you know that giant bag of vegan candy Sam sent?

Jazz: Please tell me you didn’t.

Danny: Not on purpose! You know how big that bag is! And I can’t just throw it way it’s good candy! So I just, kept giving him a couple pieces when I saw him! I didn’t even realize what I did until I passed him in the hall earlier and he nearly smiled at me and he never smiles!

Jazz: only you little brother.

Danny flopping on the floor dramatically: he just looked to the floor in confusion Jazz! Like visible confusion!