#vecna/001

[henrysglock]

Don't Speak, Don't Use Powers...What Do You Do?

Has anyone else noticed that Vecna doesn't speak or use his powers without being plugged into the UD tentacles? Because he doesn't speak or use his powers without being plugged into the UD tentacles.

When he fights Max/El, it's all within a vision/in the Mindscape, which we know he accesses when plugged in. They make a point to show us that he plugs in to access the Mindscape/perform Vecna Visions:

He's definitely able to use telekinesis and shapeshifting when he's plugged in/in a Vision or the Mindscape, which we know he plugs in to do...But then, the Mindscape disappears as soon as the tentacles unplug due to Nancy/Steve/Robin molotov-ing him:

He's not just being pulled out of performing a Vecna vision, he's being booted out of his own Mindscape, like someone yanking the ethernet cable out of an old Mac. The connect is broken...in conjunction with the tentacles pulling out.

Like...Young Henward didn't need tentacles to access whatever Vecna-like space he was supposedly accessing here when he was "holding up a mirror" or whatever:

Nor did he need them here to absorb the kids:

So why now? If Vecna is physically him, and he's been able to do it without tentacles in the past, then why now? What changed?

What, is there something special about the tentacles and tearing holes in the fabric between dimensions?

And why doesn't Vecna attack Nancy/Steve/Robin? He has psionic telekinesis (allegedly), so why does he just stand there staring at them once he's disconnected? Why doesn't he react to being attacked?

Why does he just roar and physically charge?

Why not pull one of these quick and easy kills?

He's shown specifically to be able to do it under imminent threat of injury/to protect himself...so why not toss Nancy/Steve/Robin away from him? Why let them continue to attack?

If Vecna is physically Henward, then why does he only use his powers in a mental space?

He reacts like he's part of the hive mind when he's disconnected:

But he never uses his powers. He just goes and plugs in.

Like I said earlier, he also doesn't speak. Vecna doesn't have a single physical line. All of his lines are in visions or in the Mindscape. "Vecna" just groans, moans, snarls, and roars:

Now...not to get too reachy, but there's definitely something special about these damn tentacles...and no one has been able to concretely explain how Vecna got from Dimension X to the blue UD.

However, the tentacles exist in Dimension X too:

So like...not to be insane, but if one guy has the Mindflayer:

and that's how he puppets people (see: Will)...then who's to say that "Vecna" is physically Henward?

Who's to say it's not this guy:

Using the tentacles as, like I said before, an ethernet cable to access a body in the UD, a place which is theorized to act as a middle space between Dimension X and the RSU?

After all...the current form is described as "rotted":

and the tattoo on Vecna does not match Henward's tattoo. Tattoos aren't something that can just change like that.

Furthermore, Em has theorized about Eddie being used as a corpse puppet in ST5.

Wouldn't it make sense for "Vecna" to need a corpse puppet if the current ST4 "Vecna" is also a puppet of some kind?

[tryingonametaphor]

Why Will Byers?

An analysis and theory on why Henry/Vecna targeted Will first in season 1 and his plans for Will in season 5

‼️Contains The First Shadow (TFS) spoilers so please proceed with caution.‼️

This is going to be a little long but I’ve tried to give as much context as I can without actually being able to show snippets from the stage play. This is my interpretation of everything that went down as a member of the audience and not as someone who has read up any theories about TFS before. To understand why Henry took Will first in 1983, we have to start with -

Henry and Joyce

From all the times I’ve watched TFS, the one thing that has stuck with me is the final conversation Henry has with Joyce. It’s just before his last confrontation with Patty Newby and before he joins Brenner for good. Joyce is the last person (who doesn’t know about Henry’s powers) that he canonically talks to.

Throughout the entire play Joyce, Hopper, and Bob are investigating the animals dying at the hands of Henry and come to the conclusion that Victor Creel has been the one doing the killing. They get so close to solving the case. In her last conversation with Henry, Joyce tries to comfort him by saying that Victor will pay for his crimes - which makes Henry laugh because she’s so close yet so far from the truth. He gets a little frustrated and says something along the lines of “You don’t get it. But someday you will.” (edit 28/9: the exact dialogue is [Henry: you’re too nice. that is how they’ll get you. you have to learn to do anything you can to protect the ones you love] [Joyce: I don’t understand.] [Henry: You will.]) The next time we see Henry make a reappearance in Joyce’s life is during -

The Vanishing of Will Byers

Will is taken into the Upside Down (UD) by Henry. It’s not even a question anymore. All of the context clues from 1x1 lead us to believe that Will’s kidnapping was not by a demogorgon. Will - a 12 year old - miraculously survives a week in the upside down with no food or water. Will is even around the demogorgon a few times in the Upside Down. (Joyce communicating with Will through the lights and then the demogorgon coming after her immediately).

Barb dies the night she is taken but Will stays alive and also somehow manages to talk to Joyce through the wall. Joyce is led exactly to where Will was held at the end of s1 and he makes it out alive. It’s almost as if Henry knew all along that Joyce was the most capable of never giving up on finding her son. Like Henry took Will Byers because he was Joyce’s son. And like he was giving her just enough to know that Will was alive. Even when Joyce and Hopper find him at the end in a state of near death, he’s not injured by a creature. He was being prepared for the next stage of Vecna’s plan -

The Possession of Will Byers

The origins of Henry’s powers happen as such - As a kid, he is transported into the UD (originally coined Dimension X by the government) for a few hours because he touched something he wasn’t meant to touch. During his time in there, he came in contact with the Mind Flayer (MF). According to TFS this is the point in his life when he started getting “corrupted”. Brenner’s dad - who was one of the first people to enter dimension X - had mutated blood after but no powers. Henry was the first person to come in contact with the MF and it’s highly likely he got his powers because of this (This would also track considering how most of the party has been in the UD now but show no signs of having powers). The MF controls Henry for the rest of TFS and Henry grows more power hungry the more he kills.

In S2, Henry presumably sends the MF after Will - who has now had a year to heal from the events of 1983. Will is the only other person in all of ST to have had direct contact with the MF and survived it. Henry didn’t hesitate to kill Billy in S3, but he always gives everyone just enough to keep Will safe. Will himself tells Owens in S2 that the MF wants to kill everyone except him. Will once again survives the entire ordeal and is given a “break” for the next 2 seasons. Except I don’t believe he’s been just given a break. I think Will is -

Henry’s Sleeper Agent.

Ready to awaken in s5. I undoubtedly think that Will is going to have powers. And I don’t think they’re going to be the same as Henry and El. El and the other lab kids get their powers directly from Henry. Will’s powers will be directly from the MF like Henry. I believe this has been Henry’s plan all along and it’s further affirmed by what he tells Will in the recent VR game. That Will will be the key to Henry being able to infiltrate his friends’ minds. Jamie Campbell-Bower also mentioned during the S4 press that to get in character, he set up a display with all of Henry’s victims and targets’ faces on his wall(?), and Will was in the center.

Henry is going to use his connection with Will sneakily and midway through S5 he’s going to awaken Will’s powers (maybe in ep4 - which is said to be titled ‘Sorcerer’ and has young Will in it). Henry is going to try and manipulate his way into making an ally out of Will, and it’s not going to work because -

Will is the Perfect Character Foil.

Will is everything Henry could have been if he had a better support system. He is the perfect character foil. Unlike Henry, Will has a mother who loves him unconditionally and more importantly, believes him. Unlike Henry, the person who Will loves the most (the Patty to Will’s Henry: Mike) is going to love him back and stay by his side all season. No one is going to force them to be apart the way Henry was told to stay away from Patty. Will is not going to be easily swayed even though Henry has spent years crafting him into the perfect soldier. Sure, Henry has seen him heartbroken and sad, but that comes nowhere near to the amount of love and support Will is going to get from his people next season. And they’re going to quite literally defeat Vecna with the power of love and friendship. After that, Will Byers is getting the happy ending that Henry could have gotten.

[tarraing]

felt like drawing some stranger things characters in a new style

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You believe me like a god. I destroy you like I am.

inspired by churchgate!

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Stranger Things Preferences

Their Pet Name for you.

(Featuring: Steve Harrington, Eddie Munson, Billy Hargrove, Jonathan Byers, Dmitri Antonov, Jim Hopper, Alexei, Murray Bauman, Robin Buckley, Argyle, Henry/001)

Warnings: Mentions of sex. This blog is 18+ Minors do not interact.

A/N: My first preference! There will be quite a few of these across quite a few fandoms so if you'd like to be tagged in future preferences or future stranger things posts please let me know in the comments! :) Also any Russian is taken straight from google translate so pre-apologies if I have butchered it! Enjoy!

Steve Harrington

Steve keeps his pet names quite generic, baby, babe, sweetheart. It's not so much the names he uses but how he says them. Most of the time he's most comfortable using the shortened version of your name or nickname he has for you, but the amount of affection he would put into it would make you melt. If he's being especially flirtatious you'd even occasionally get doll. He doesn't miss the effect it has on you when he calls you that.

Eddie Munson

Eddie is as theatrical with his pet names as he is with anything else in life. He loves to call you princess, especially during Hellfire meetings when he can incorporate you into his campaign. I think Eddie would switch between a few pet names to try to keep it interesting, baby, sunshine, sweetheart. It doesn't matter what he calls you it never fails to give you butterflies. Let's not pretend that if you two are hanging out in his trailer while you joke around and play air guitar together that he doesn't call you his little Rockstar.

Billy Hargrove

Billy's pet names for you depend on two things; his mood, and who you are around. In public you're only getting the less heartfelt pet names, he refers to you as his girl a lot in front of other people. Not only does he love the small smile it brings to your face but it also feeds into his possessive side, knowing that everyone knows you are his. When you two are alone and have been together for a while, Billy finally shoes a softer side of himself. He will compliment you a lot and attach all sort of pet names to those compliments, baby, sugar, sweet thing, still loving to resort to calling you his girl. You're mad at him and he's trying to make it up to you? Get ready for him to bargain his way back into your arms, wrapping his arms around you as he whispers in your ear, "Come on sweetheart, you know you can't stay mad at me."

Jonathan Byers

This soft, shy, adorable baby will probably be hesitant to use pet names for a long time. I honestly doubt you would hear them until you two begin to get intimate and he's too lost in the moment to think about what he's saying. He's pussy drunk and rambling into your neck, pet names would all be soft and sweet while he's chasing his high, beautiful and sweetheart would be at the top of his list. Getting high in his room? This sweet man would be telling you how you're his sunshine, rambling on in his delirium about how you light up his life.

Dmitri Antonov

While this man's English is very good, he still prefers to use pet names in Russian. There's something about the way he looks at you with his intense gaze as he slips back into his native tongue that just turns you into an absolute puddle. His favourites include котенок (kitten) and моя любовь (my love). The thought of this man holding you while you curl up in bed for the night, arms wrapped around you while he whispers endearing words in Russian into your ear is enough to bring butterflies to your stomach.

Jim Hopper

Let's not pretend like for a goooooooood while this man affectionately refers to you as kid even if you are barely a few years younger than him. He's a tough shell of a man that will refuse to open up or show his feelings for a long time, but when he does you realise its worth the wait. He doesn't throw around pet names and words of endearment a lot as he prefers to save them for moments when he feels it's right. When it's just the two of you and you're sharing a soft moment, sometimes referring to you as darling in his softer moments. Occasionally you might even get a cheeky baby.

Alexei

Another Russian baby, this adorable man will always call you pet names in Russian, it doesn't matter how much his English has improved. It just means more to him coming from his native tongue. His regular go to include голубь (Dove) and милый (Darling). Although, Murray taught him how Americans us Pumpkin as a term of endearment as a way to screw with you both and now it's one of Alexei's favourite things to call you. Jokes on Murray because seeing Alexei's face light up as he reaches for you and calls you pumpkin is enough to fall even more in love with him.

Murray Bauman

I feel like Murray cannot find it in himself to call you soft names to start off with. He's still confused by the fact that you even want to be with him, he's not going to possibly embarrass himself further using some pet names that might cross some invisible line he's set up for himself. He refers to as lady a lot, or another unique name that fits your looks of personality. Once this man is comfortable and more secure in your relationship I think the names would still stay light and not too sensitive. You would definitely get honey a lot, I don't think Murray would be able to resist yelling through the house when he gets home, "Honey, I'm home!"

Robin Buckley

Robin would also keep her pet names generic just like her bestie Steve, but less out of originality and more just to play it safe. Robin would have some insecurities going into a relationship after all the careful steps she took just to get to where you two are now. She is hesitant at first to say the wrong thing so she sticks to a lot of sweetheart and babe. One day you were spending time together and she slipped up and called you buttercup. She panicked for a second worrying what you would think of the nickname, but seeing your smile wiped all of those worries away and it became one of her favourite pet names so far.

Argyle

Okay so we all know this cutie is not going to call you any conventional pet names unless he's sober which is not very often. You're going to get a lot of my dude and bro but he does really mean it affectionately with you. Other than that you're definitely going to get a lot of made up names that mean absolutely nothing but to him they mean a lot; wicked lady, cream puff, anything. He would totally refer to you as "my queen" when he lets you into the van which he refers to as your chariot. Your favourite pet name would be the time he said, "My pretty girl is gonna get all the pizza she wants" he couldn't understand your reaction as you couldn't think of what to say next after hearing Argyle call you his pretty girl.

Henry/001

I whole heartedly believe this man would refer to you as pet. He does mean it endearingly but he also can't resist how you scrunch your nose up at hearing the teasing term. He also uses a lot of "My little..." whether it be bird, bunny, dove. He constantly feels the need to protect you and he shows that in his terms of endearment by referring to you as small and innocent. I know this man would call you his good girl, and you will have to pry that thought out of my cold dead hands.

A/N: Hope you guys like this! Reminder that if you want to be tagged in future Stranger things posts or other preferences to let me know in the comments and ill create a tags list :)

[bloodycreaturee]

had a dream nancy yelled "suck my dick" at vecna and he was like "you don't??? have one???" and she was just like oh yeah?? and then pulled a gun out from the front of her pants and proceeded to shoot him

[henrysglock]

GRRGRRGGRRGGRG GOD ALL THIS!!

I wonder if this has any bearing here, but if Brenner combined himself with One/was combined with One in 1979, but the other Brenner was attacked by the demogorgon in 1983…and Vecna definitely doesn’t have schmeat…

who’s to say Vecna isn’t a Brenner, given that they flash from him to him:

1983 Brenner…Is there any chance you became a puppet?

It would explain the inexplicable transfer of One/Vecna from Dimension X to the blue UD and the weird ethernet tentacle stuff…

HIS DICK FELL OFF?? (The Vanishing Of Brenner’s Cock- What Happened To It?)

So, welcome to yet another insane post. Long story short, I’m wondering if Brenner’s schmeat got butchered.

So, this all started out when I was sitting here thinking about James’ Mothergate post (and I’ve got some posts here about mothergate & one in particular about Mothergate and The Fly that connects to this current post) and wondering why Vecna has all of these times that he appears as women & all of this mother coding, but that same feminine coding isn’t present for Henry/Edward as a child or in the lab.

And then, I was sitting here thinking about the idea of Brenner trying to combine himself with Henward in order to try and get regen healing (which you can see posts such as this post, this post, this post, and this post) and Vecna being the result of that, and then it hit me:

Is Brenner the reason why that “female” imagery is present for Vecna but not for Henward pre-Vecna?

Brenner also acts weirdly reverently towards the vagina-shaped gates :

And as James @henrysglock pointed out to me, there’s also a Lilly Brenner in Insidious:

But if Brenner DID lose his dick, HOW did he lose his dick?

Well. I hate typing this just as much as you’re going to hate reading it, but. When the Demogorgon knocks Brenner over in S1, when we look at how he was knocked back:

Versus the Demogorgon’s position when it starts chewing:

It’s too close to the camera to be chewing on Brenner’s head the way that the S4 Demogorgon does with the prisoners- but it’s RIGHT in the perfect place to be chewing on Brenner’s other head.

And when I brought this up to James, he mentioned the 3 legged Papa drawing vs the 2 legged Papa drawing- which, if Brenner had lost a “leg”, makes sense- however, the 2 legged drawing is technically from 1979 and is therefore before the 3 legged drawing, but the 3 legged drawing is shown to the audience first in the show. So either way, there’s Something here.

And speaking of legs, we also have all of the Jaws references in ST, and specifically, the Demogorgon being compared to a shark:

And what does this have to do with legs? Well, Jaws was inspired by Moby Dick- Moby Dick, where Captain Ahab’s leg was bitten off by a whale/Jaws being inspired by that with sharks.

Versus Brenner’s dick being presented as a third “leg,” in the drawing, and it possibly having been bitten off by the Demogorgon, which, again, is compared to a shark.

And I talked here about how the Brenner that we see in S1 is very very likely Richard Brenner, not Martin Brenner- Richard, whose name is literally short for “Dick.”

Brenner also seems to really overcompensate when it comes to masculinity.

For example, he’s got his cock coat scene:

And he forces the lab children to call him “Papa”:

And if we REALLY want to stretch things, there’s a young trans girl named Morgan Brenner in the 1994 tv show, “ER.” Which, interestingly enough, she shares that name with a girl in iCarly of all things, also named Morgan Brenner. And speaking of iCarly vs ST, Fred Benson in ST also shares a name with as Fred Benson from iCarly.

Plus, we also have the idea that one of the Henwards during NINA is Brenner/a Henward that got combined with one of the Brenners, which, considering all of the castration references that surround Henward/the castration vibes with Soteria that Stav pointed out…

Long story short: something weird is going on inside of Brenner’s pants and with the female imagery in ST regarding Brenner.



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[imactuallyreallycool]

Hello every-pony lmao

Here’s some of my mlp x stranger things designs :)

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Vecna is a mean girl

[henrysglock]

autism diagnosis? no. just me and my canon-accurate, hand-painted 001 funko pop.

[meowza315]

hi guys I somehow shit this out in two days or something but anyways. Vecna. Hello.

trying to revive the fix because it’s evaporating sadly ummm. avatar and afop are taking over help me helpppppppppp help

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Why I Think Will is the "Sorcerer"

When I first saw the episode titled "Sorcerer" way back when the episode titles first leaked, I immediately associated it with Will. But of course I did, considering he is my favorite character after all. But I do have more evidence to back this up other than favorite character bias.

Wizard as Sorcerer

For some of the international episode titles in other languages, the title for "Sorcerer" is occasionally translated to "Wizard." (sometimes it is translated as "Magician" but the general idea of a magic wielder is still there) It has also been noted that in some gendered languages, such as German and Italian, that the word takes on its masculine form. Thank you to @bylrndgm for your help with this! (Edit: adding this post)

It is true that Wizard and Sorcerer are two separate DnD classes, but I think it important to also consider the broader definition and understanding of "sorcerer" outside of just it's DnD definition.

There are multiple definitions that can be found online that refer to a sorcerer as a wizard.

"a person who practices sorcery: wizard" - Merriam-Webster

"Magical, mysterious, and quite possibly mythical, a sorcerer is a name for a spell-casting wizard." - Vocabulary.com

"a person who practices sorcery; black magician; wizard." -Dictionary.com

"a person who practices sorcery : a wizard or warlock" - The Britannica Dictionary

"One who practices sorcery; a wizard." - The Free Dictionary

So I think it is reasonable to see why so many, including myself, immediately associated Will with the sorcerer title— Sorcerers and wizards are heavily associated with each other and are oftentimes used interchangeably.

Since episode 1, Will has been closely tied with wizards. From his DnD character Will the Wise, to the password of Castle Byers referring to a fictional wizard, to dressing up as a wizard, to Will's depiction as a wizard making it into his painting of foreshadowing, the wizard status has followed Will throughout the seasons.

But wait, isn't Will a cleric and not a wizard?

Well yes... and no.

The one reference to Will being a cleric in the show is the one scene where Mike tells Max all of the party members' roles in the group. Here, I do not think he is referring to their DnD roles (even though some of them do share these titles with their characters) but rather, he is referring to their role in the real world using DnD classes. El is assigned as a mage, despite not having a DnD character of her own. The mage title refers to El's real position as a user of magical powers, and Will's cleric title refers to his connection to an otherworldly plane. "Clerics are intermediaries between the mortal world and the distant plane of the gods." from Dnd Beyond. Despite Will's label as a cleric, he is still heavily associated with wizards as well, and thus sorcerers.

The DnD descricption for sorcerers does seem to match Will as well, however. One defining element of a sorcerer, as described by DnD Beyond, is how they acquired their powers, which is either through "an exotic bloodline" or "exposure to unknown cosmic forces." "Is it a family curse, passed down to you from some distant ancestors? Or did some extraordinary event leave you blessed with inherent magic but perhaps scarred as well?"

I believe that Will has some sort of untapped powers that originate from his trip to the Upside Down in season one, which is why we are getting flashbacks to his time there, as has been indicated in behind the scenes material. I also have a more detailed post on why I believe that Will has powers here.

I don't think El is the "Sorcerer," but I do think it could also refer to Vecna

There are a couple of reasons why I do not believe that the title of sorcerer refers to El. The first being the use of masculine articles which I described above, and the second is that high fantasy imagery does not typically follow El the way it does Will. El is usually encased in science fiction tropes and imagery, and gets the title "Superhero" in relation to her powers rather than "Sorcerer" or "Wizard" or "Magician."

I do, however, acknowledge that Vecna has been referred to as a "dark wizard" by Dustin within the show, and has acquired his powers in a similar way that Will has re: the stage play. I think it is possible that the moniker "Sorcerer" could refer to both Vecna and Will, considering how closely they are connected and how they seem to be intentional foils of each other.