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the land of old gods and monsters // lake superior, canada // 2010 // ©

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Legendary Creatures: Underwater Panther

By Uyvsdi - Own work, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8843870

An underwater panther (in Ojibwe called the Mishipeshu [ᒥᔑᐯᔓ] or Mishibijiw [ᒥᔑᐱᒋᐤ]) is an important mythical water creature of the Northeastern woodlands and Great Lakes region of North America, especially to the Anishinaabe.

By Heironymous Rowe at English Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6842493

Some archaeologists think that they were also important to the Mississippian cultures that extended into the Southeastern Ceremonial Complex, which broadly refers to the land around the rivers that lead into the Mississippi River and Southeastern coast.

By D. Gordon E. Robertson - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=15941023

The underwater panthers were opposing and complimentary to Thunderbirds and were in eternal conflict with each other. The Anishinaabe, Odawa, Ojibwe, Potawatomi, Innu, Anishinaabeg, and Algonquin all have stories of a giant cat covered in scales and spikes along its back and tail. Mishipeshu means 'the Great Lynx' and it lives on Michipicoten Island in Lake Superior. It is a powerful underworld being that often has mastery over water creatures, snakes included. They lived in the deepest parts of lakes and were said to cause storms. Though some groups saw them as benevolent or neutral, most viewed them as causing death or misfortune and needed to be placated via ceremonies in order to keep it and Thunderbird in balance.

By Contains modified Copernicus Sentinel data 2024, Attribution, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=153624249

The underwater panther was linked to copper deposits found throughout the Great Lakes Region. By the time Europeans arrived in the area, it was forbidden to take copper from the area because it was seen as stealing from Mishipeshu. Some, though, carried pieces of copper as a talisman of protection.

By Rev. Stephen D. Peet, editor - The American Antiquarian and Oriental Journal, Volume XIII, Page 316, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6006838

American archaeologist Brad Lepper suggested that the Alligator Effigy Mound in Ohio was meant to be a representation of the underwater panther and that early European colonists misconstrued the underwater panther was an alligator because it lived in the water and ate people.

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Cats have long played a significant role in superstition and folklore around the world. At times they have been said to be bad luck, in collusion with witches, and even (mistakenly) believed to have been worshipped as gods. While Ancient Egyptians did not actually worship cats as gods, they were considered sacred due to their connection to the gods, in particular the goddess Bastet. Compared to some of humanities other domesticated companions, such as dogs or horses, cats were only domesticated within the last 10,000 years (dogs, for comparison, being domesticated approximately 23,000 years ago), but despite their relatively recent addition to our households, cats have still gained a firm place in both our homes, and our myths...

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Picture Cave: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Mississippian Cosmos: A Book Review

New blog post at The Storytelling Blog. Review of Picture Cave: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Mississippian Cosmos. I used this book extensively for #TheBigCinch background. #prehistoric #storyresearch

Picture Cave, edited by Carol Diaz-Grandados and colleagues.  University of Texas Press, Austin. A lot of heavy academic research is sometimes needed to feed popular-culture fantasy fiction worldbuilding. Crucial to my novel, The Big Cinch, was Picture Cave: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Mississippian Cosmos. Picture Cave documents Mississippi Valley prehistoric cave art. It also shares the…

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"Did you get in trouble for taking the cup into the ocean?" "Yes. Yes." "Did Rodrigues? He took it in there too!" "Did he?" "Yeah!" "Well, I mean, I brought it under the water—looking back..." "What happened?" "You bring silver into the ocean, saltwater—no!" "Oh, I didn't know that." "I haven't slept! How am I supposed to know? Nobody told me the rules!" "You haven't slept!" "Yeah, but you're naughty—" "But hey! If I would've known about it... oh no, I still probably would've done it. Still probably would've done it!" "Dude, who cares! That thing has been abused all through the years!" "No, no! The cup guys understood, the cup keepers understood—they, you know, told me the rules after and I swear to God I didn't know before but, yeah. Great memories! Great pictures!

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oceangate evolves further the more we talk about it so if youd like to see the other previous developments in concerns to it...

and also because its funny here are some of the times the cup has been held near or above water both salt, fresh and chlorine alike since oceangate in no particular order

and i just think its very clear when oceangate happened because now everyones holding the cup high above the water/near bodies of water and not letting it get dunked

but pre-oceangate the cup was just dunked in maffhews pool hours after they won it (which was before they went to las olas and welp the rest is history)

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Swimming with the whales date night!🐋

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Alex Livinalli as Attuma

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)

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I cant recall if I posted my mishipeshu art piece yet.

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urgency (to drown) // why, tiger?

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Charles Vess Cards (1995) 70: The Underwater Panther (Costume Sketch)

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MCU bts, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

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In this episode, Laura, Krysta and Dean are joined by author Dan B. Fierce as they discuss the Piasa. The Piasa is a strange creature that the Cahokia painted on walls in Alton, Illinois. But first, we check in with Krysta who use her corner to talk her girlfriend before we discuss the Cahokia Kingdom, the possibility that the native American legend of the underwater panther may be a representation of a bull shark, plus special birthday messages for Krysta's upcoming 14th birthday and so much more on this special episode of the Family Plot Podcast!

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Watercat in Gotham

Dani is a Mishipeshu, but she prefers water panther, It sounds cooler. She's been running up rivers, checking in with Danny, staying away from Vlad, and exploring the coastlines. Never going out to sea, that's Atlantian territory. She dislikes them very much. They're king thinks he controls the seas. She knows the sea's are wild and free like her, its in her nature.

As a mythical force of nature her instincts guide her to where she is needed. She finds herself in the polluted waters of Gotham Bay: Fish smile like clowns, Piles of underwater bodies, Fear poison, and chemical waste. She has no shortage of work to do.

Her fifth day in Gotham. Shes flooded 3 poison factories, mauled the sewer zombie, bitten the gator man, teamed up with plant woman, and licked the ninja boy with the sword. Now there is a lady in a catsuit goin pspspsps. OH she has tuna!

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Noa and Mae as Romeo and Juliet Theory

If Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is inspired by Hamlet, then to keep the story feeling like Shakespeare, the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes sequels could take inspiration from Romeo and Juliet.

(NOTE: I already made a post about this theory right after the movie first came out, but after months of discussing this theory with others, I wanted to update it with some of my newer thoughts and ideas).

Remember, this is just a fun theory!

First I will explain how Dawn is similar to Hamlet, using other movies as examples and their sequels.

Then I will discuss character similarities, like Raka as Friar Lawrence.

I will then talk about how Romeo and Juliet works with the themes of Planet of the Apes.

And I will share an interview with Wes Ball where he talks about "Shakespearean stuff" in the sequels.

Hamlet and Romeo and Juliet in Planet of the Apes

In Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, The Lion King, and Black Panther, a rightful king or heir is killed by an evil uncle, cousin, or family member. This always results in them falling off a very high cliff for some reason.

Everyone thinks they're dead, the evil relative takes power, and everything kinda sucks. There is not enough food in the Pride Lands under Scar's rule. Killmonger burns the heart-shaped herbs. Koba leads the apes to war against the humans.

The rightful ruler spends time in exile, recovering from their wounds and trauma. They might even get a visit or have a recollection of their dead father.

Then the rightful ruler comes back from the dead, challenges the usurper, and takes his rightful place upon the throne. Now let's take a quick look at their sequels, hehe.

The Lion King 2 and Wakanda Forever are loosely based on Romeo and Juliet. Wakanda Forever is also based on Hades and Persephone by the way!

Like the Montagues and Capulets, we got two rival kingdoms. The Pridelanders and the Outsiders. Wakanda and Talokan.

The two heirs/rulers from both kingdoms meet, and they don't trust each other at first, but they start to have compassion for the other.

Kiara and Kovu fall in love. Namor and Shuri don't fall in love, but Shuri begins to show compassion after he shows her his kingdom.

(Side note: There is this interview with one of the movie editors about a romantic subplot between Shuri and Namor being removed, but it was later clarified the comments in the interview were taken out of context. But I digress!)

Namor and Shuri are also based on Persephone and Hades, who are a couple in Greek mythology. Hades kidnaps Persephone and brings her to the underworld. Namor kidnaps Shuri and takes her to his underwater kingdom.

So Romeo and Juliet, Hades and Persephone...they're based on romantic couples.

There are losses on both sides. Kovu's brother is killed going after Simba. One of Namor's people is killed. Shuri's mother, Queen Ramonda, is killed by Namor's attack on Wakanda.

This escalates the situation. Things get worse.

In the end, both pairs are able to bring the fighting between their people to a stop. The Outsiders are welcomed into Simba's pride, and the Wakandans and people of Talokan stop fighting after seeing their leaders return together.

Character Similarities

So Noa and Mae would be Romeo and Juliet for obvious reasons. Romeo and Juliet's deaths brought the feud between their families to an end. Noa and Mae could bridge the gap between apes and humans and help achieve coexistence.

But now I want to talk about Raka!

He's Friar Lawrence!

Friar Lawrence is wise, optimistic, and religious.

We see this with Raka already. He is religious and is a follower of the Order of Caesar. He's also a little too optimistic, believing apes and humans once lived side by side, but we know this isn't true.

Friar Lawrence believes Romeo and Juliet's marriage will unite their Houses in the eyes of God and end the feud between the two families.

Caesar is pretty much God for the apes. Raka says since humans were important to Caesar, he must show compassion and teach them.

Even his last words to Noa and Mae are "Together strong." NOT "Apes together strong," but "TOGETHER strong."

He believes humans and apes, or at least Noa and Mae, are stronger together. This stems from him being a member of the Order of Caesar and because he believes it's what Caesar would want.

Back to The Lion King 2. Rafiki would be the Friar as well. He gets a message from Mufasa (Caesar/God) about how Kiara and Kovu getting together would unite the two sides.

"Kovu...Kiara...together?"

"Together...strong."

I see Anaya being Mercutio.

Mercutio is Romeo's friend. He's very witty, making jokes all the time. (Seriously, read the play. He doesn't stop, lol). His death is what leads to Romeo killing Tybalt.

Anaya is definitely the jokester in his friend group. If Anaya is Mercutio though, poor guy. Hope he goes down swinging!

Romeo and Juliet Themes

Both sides realize they're the same and to not let hate cloud their judgement.

As Kiara says to her father Simba, "A wise king once told me we are one. Look at them. They are us. What differences do you see?"

This reminds me of when Caesar tells his son, "I always think ape better than human. I see now how much like them we are."

In Planet of the Apes, the apes are a mirror to humanity. We the audience see ourselves in them, and the characters must come to the realization that they're not opposites, but the same.

It's about love and compassion over hate and violence.

"But don't Romeo and Juliet die in the end?" They do, but just like how The Lion King 2 and Wakanda Forever had different endings, it doesn't mean Noa and Mae have to die. West Side Story, another Romeo and Juliet retelling, has Tony die, but not Maria.

Here's to hoping for a happier ending for Noa and Mae, though!

And to top it all off, here's a clip of an interview with Wes Ball where he talks about "Shakespearean stuff" for the sequel.

“The relationship that these two characters [Noa and Mae] have with each other is going to be crucial for what comes at them in the future. 

“Whatever exists between them, is that going to be enough to stop terrible things from happening? Or is it going to be the cause of terrible things to happen? I think there’s going to be a lot of great drama, you know, classic Shakespearean stuff.”

Shakespearean stuff, you say?