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The Vignette Theory
The vignettes and event stories are all part of the dream world Malleus created and here's proof!
First off when Malleus first used his - what I believe to be- unique magic "Fae of Maleficent", thorns went inward just like when a card is groovified.
They are the exact same. This is incredibly important because it reveals a direct connection between the cards and Malleus's magic. Moreover, there has been a lot of discussion about the wonky timelines of the cards which I won't be going too deep into.
My argument is that ALL of the vignettes and events were dreams or memories. They all took place inside Malleus's realm. Even the ones where Ortho, Idia, and Silver were the main characters. Although it might seem strange, there is no other way it could work. I think that when the dream started their memories or as described by the Shroud family, their "servers" got connected to Malleus, and all their memories were uploaded. Even though Malleus is not sure of all their memories and probably can't assess all that information, those memories are a part of his realm and that's the backstory to why we have a lot of the vignettes in the game.
The Conundrum With Those Who Are Awake
According to my theory, it's technically impossible for Ortho and Silver to have any dreams. Therefore they shouldn't have so many vignettes....and they don't. First, take Ortho- he has very few vignettes completely about him. Most of them could be from other people's memories like his gym uniform could be the Leech brothers, the White Rabbit Festival could be Duece's dream, and so forth. Even the vignettes where no one should be aware of everything going on with Ortho are easily explained. Ruggie knows about Ortho's actions in the Wish Upon a Star event and other characters might have their own understanding of Ortho's personality. From what we've seen so far, the dreams are fairly realistic. Even the Dawn Knight in Lilia's dream seems to have his own past. Especially when he refers to the origin of his 'ring'.
Silver also tends not to be a main character for most of the vignettes. In the Halloween Soiree, Jamil and Silver get to know each other as they travel around the afterworld/ghost realm. This is one of the few times where Silver acts open and reveals a lot about himself. How does Jamil or whoever is dreaming up that vignette have this information. Well- as previously explained, all the characters' memories are now part of Maleeus's dream realm. The short time Silver was not awake and the information Sebek and Lilia -importantly Malleus- had about Silver allowed Jamil to learn about it in his dream.
It's also possible that Silver was already open about his stories and life so everyone can predict what he might say.
Thank you all for reading my ramblings, let me know if I missed something and I'll try to get to it in another post!
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Also-CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS BEAUTIFUL LADYYY????
Ngl, when I first imagined Idia's parents I imagined them as abusive and neglectful, but they were a shock to meet. In the main story, they are the first parents of a character we get to see. I was incredibly surprised by her voice and personality but after it dawned on me that she was Persephone, I was beyond taken away! I've always disliked the characterization of Hades in the animated Hercules series. It felt like he was just a cartoon satan (Persephone’s exclusion from the cartoon was also disappointing) but to see Disney include her here-even a twisted version- is exciting. I'm glad that they didn't end up being terrible people, if they were then the Idia angst would have flooded us all up.
#twst#twst theory#twisted wonderland malleus#disney twisted wonderland#disney twst#twst malleus#twst diasomnia#twst silver#twst ortho#twst wonderland#what's up with the vignettes#twst analysis#twisted wonderland#twst chapter 7#twst idia’s mom#twst idia#twst seem#twst idia’s parents#twst styx#twst Styx family
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A Christmas at S.T.Y.X!!
This is a secret Santa gift I did for my friend Angel in a twst discord server! With all the shroud family bein' happy, including Ortho 1.0 who got Star Rouge 2 as his gift Bc dammit they gotta be happy!! It also includes 3 of my OCs, Mel, Fero and Fovos, who are twsted from Meg, Pain and Panic!
The star rouge 2 cover was designed by me! Honestly I went a lil overboard with it but dammit I'm proud of it. Also Smeega is in reference to Mr. Smee, I thought it was silly Here's the full version of the cover!
#froggy's silly lil drawings#twisted wonderland#idia shroud#twst fanart#twst oc#twst styx#twisted wonderland oc#shroud family#ortho shroud#mama shroud#papa shroud#twst shroud family#christmas#secret santa gift#star rouge 2
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THAT SCENE IN CHAPTER 3 WHERE ORTHO HUGS HIS PARENTS IS IN THE HERCULES MOVIE
#when Hercules leaves for the temple of Zeus#he hugs his (adoptive) mom and dad!!!#twisted wonderland episode 7 spoilers#twisted wonderland spoilers#twisted wonderland#twst#twst spoilers#disney twst#mama shroud#papa shroud#shroud family#styx#twst Styx#ortho shroud#disney twisted wonderland#disney hercules
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Summary: After what happened at STYX, Epel was extremely traumatized and never wanted to part from Vil’s side for as long as possible… he did not want to lose Vil. The sight of seeing Vil all old and wrinkled, brittle and worn by age was enough to send him into panic- he’s seen many elderly in his hometown pass away but the images of elderly Vil fresh in his mind just made everything worse…
TW: Mentions of D3@th/Dy1ng and mega angst
If you were looking for Emotional Damage this is the place! Abandon hope all ye who read this! Ye have been warned beforehand of angst and pain!
Epel Felmier and Vil Schoenheit: Don’t Leave Me All Alone…
Rain pelted the windows of the Pomefiore dorm, thunder rattled the walls and lightning lit the dark hallways and bedrooms that cold February night. It was truly a rough storm and the howling wind whistling a ghostly tune made it no better for Epel as he shuddered under his blankets. The thunder roared again and he clutched his poison apple plush tighter, truthfully, he was not frightened of storms but the events at STYX was enough to send him into panic.
CRASH! BOOM!
The thunder roared again, releasing yet another wave of ferocity. With every roar of thunder came the memories of the titans… of Vil…
‘No… No, Vil is alive, Vil is fine… gotta stop being a scaredy-cat! Man up, Epel! Man up, damnit!’
Nightmares of the horrors that fateful day flooded his mind, images of Vil falling into the Underworld to save Idia still were fresh in his memory, haunting him with the thought of losing Vil. Tears pricked his baby blue eyes as he hid his face in his pillow, oh how he despised this weakness… but he supposed it was only right considering how the event’s traumatized him so dramatically.
CRASH!! BOOM!!
The thunder roared once more, causing Epel to jump slightly at the sound. Sevens above how he hated feeling so weak…
Epel huffed, sitting up in bed and grabbing his pillow and apple plush, making his way quietly out of the room and straight to Vil’s room. He knew Vil was likely already in bed but he just had to see him, he needed to know Vil was alive still. His dreams of Vil all old and wrinkled dying before his eyes shattered his heart into microscopic fragments, the images of the dream were too real for him, it was too much. Outside Vil’s door he could see the dim glow of lamp light from under the door, Vil was likely still awake if the lamp was on. Epel took a deep, shuddering breath and knocked on the door, trying his hardest not to break down like a small child.
“Hm? Epel? Whatever are you doing up at this hour? Eye bags, my dear, eye bag- Epel…? Oh Epel what’s the matter?” Vil knelt down to Epel’s height, brushing his gentle, soft hands across they younger’s face. “Come on in, potato, tell me what’s the matter.”
Epel walked in slowly, nodding his head and sitting next to his Housewarden on the bed, staring at him with wide, frightened eyes. “V-Vil… I-I was just scared you were gone… that you left us for good… that the Underworld took you… *sniffle* I’m sorry… I know this is childish an’ stupid…”
‘Stupid! Damnit! Cryin’ like a lil kid in fronta Vil again… I’m gonna get a scoldin’ of a lifetime for the eyebags…’
Vil gasped, pulling Epel into a tight hug, petting his hair gently, swaying softly in an attempt of comfort. He had no idea Epel was so frightened, he had figured something was wrong when Epel refused to leave his side almost all afternoon during their Friday night cleaning session and this afternoon during lunch break but to see this side of Epel was entirely new. He was nothing more than a frightened little boy who had nearly lost someone he cared about deep down even if he did not want to admit it.
“I’m right here, I’m not going anywhere, just keep your head on my heart, see? It’s still beating, I’m still here, little apple. I’m still here…” Vil whispered soothingly, almost in a motherly manner as his slender fingers combed through the soft, violet locks.
‘No, Vil, you left us behind in my dream… you died… you died from old age too soon…’
“I-I’ve seen buncha old folks b-back home go an’ all but… but seein’ you get old an’ leavin’ us…” Epel could not finish that sentence, the words felt so rough on his tongue. The pain in his heart was excruciating and all he could do was wail into Vil’s chest like a child.
‘Sevens above, please don’t take Vil from us… please…’
Vil gently shushed the crying boy, whispering words of comfort as his tears flowed from his eyes. The feeling was the only calm Epel felt against the raging storm of emotions. The Pomefiore Housewarden knew that Epel always tried his hardest to keep a brave face, a defiant attitude, and a tough guy persona but Vil and Rook knew deep down Epel was a gentle soul who cared deeply for others even if he never showed it openly.
“Epel, how about you spend the night here with me, hm? That way you will know I will not leave you.” Vil smiled softly as the younger looked into his eyes as if questioning his suggestion. “I promise, I will not leave your side, you will be safe in here with me. No storm, titan, or Overblot monster will come in here.”
BOOM! CRASH!!
The first year gasped at the sudden clap of thunder, clinging to his Housewarden as if he were a baby koala. He nodded his head in agreement to Vil’s suggestion, eventually looking up at Vil worriedly before releasing his hold.
“S-sorry… dunno why the stupid storm is making me like this… I’m not usually all a scaredy-cat.”
“It can’t be helped, potato, to be completely honest with you, I too have had a difficult time with the storm…” Vil sighed and shrugged. “Truthfully, it reminds me of what happened at STYX, the titans and all those escaped monsters… and the fear of losing you and Rook.”
‘I-I had no idea Vil felt this way… I thought he was gonna say losing his good looks or somethin’ like that. Huh…’
“What? I know that look, potato- you have something snarky on the mind, spill it.”
“Ack- um- uh… n-no I’m good, Vil! Heh… heh…”
“One… Two… do not make me say three, potato.”
‘Great, he’s gone mama mode… no escapin’ this one…’
“Aight, I was gonna say just thought you were gonna say something ‘bout losing your good looks…”
Vil laughed, genuinely laughed at Epel’s remark. Ruffling his first year’s hair, he pulled him back into a hug. “You cheeky little apple, what am I to do with you?”
“Send me to Savanaclaw, maybe?”
“Not happening. You are staying with me, spudling.”
‘Damnit, guess I’m stuck with Vil- although, guess it ain’t a bad idea… heh- life does work in weird ways, huh?’
“Alright, potato, bedtime. It’s well past both of our bedtimes but sleeping in tomorrow as it is the weekend would not hurt, fufufufu~” Vil lifted the covers for Epel to climb under, like a mother he tucked him in and gently petted his head. Vil too tucked himself into bed and pulled the younger close to his frame, running his gentle, slim fingers through his hair and humming a soft lullaby.
Epel slowly but surely drifted off to sleep, the sweet humming of Vil’s lullaby and his heartbeat that was very much alive soothed his mind and guided him to slumber.
“Gnight… mum…” Epel mumbled sleepily, snuggling closer to Vil like a kitten.
“Goodnight, my littlest apple. May no nightmares touch your dreams tonight while I’m here.”
#windblume writes#epel felmier#vil schoenheit#pomefiore family#Vil and Epel#fluff#Vil fluff#Epel fluff#twst epel#twst vil#twst fanfiction#disney twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland fanfiction#twst chapter 6 spoilers#twst spoilers#twst styx
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Adopted
???: She's charging, everyone hush!
???: Sorry, sorry!
Livia: *Opens her eyes, her charging tree dimming*
Shroud Family: HAPPY ADOPTION DAY!!!
Livia: *Flinches in alarm, almost firing an energy ball at them*
Mrs Shroud: Sorry for startling you, Liv-Chan!
Idia: We adopted you Livia, w-welcome to the family
Citro: We got a little sister how great is that!!
Pen: So great!
Pan: Yeah!
Ortho: Welcome to the family Livia Aidon Shroud!
Livia: *Blinks in surprise* Livia....Aidon Shroud
Mr Shroud: Forgive us, we looked up your name and saw that a middle name was registered
Mrs Shroud: Since we adopted you we decided to give you a new name!
Livia: *Smiles wide* Livia Aidon Shroud!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Idia: We have a gift for you...
Citro: You always say you wanted to go into space!
Pen and Pan: So we copied Ortho's Star Gazer gear and remodeled it!!!
Mr Shroud: *Carries a new gear in, setting it down*
Livia: *Floats closer, her eyes lighting up*
Mrs Shroud: Do you like it, Liv-Chan?
Livia: No.......I LOVE IT!!!!
Mr Shroud: She gave me a fright for a minute there
Idia: Wanna go into space Livia? The gear is specially designed for you to be up there for days without ever getting tired-
Livia: *Squeals causing the lights to flicker* Yes!!!!!!
Mr and Mrs Shroud: *Quickly places their hands on her shoulders* Let's calm down!!
Mr Shroud: Livia, daughter, we don't need another blackout....
Livia: *Giggles as Citro hooked her up to her Space Gear* Sorry Father, I'm just so happy
Idia: *Glides his fingers across the keyboard, Livias eyes closing*
Livia: *Opens her eyes, looking into the mirror* Wowie! It's amazing
Mr Shroud: And we installed an opening in your room *Presses a button, a space in Livias room opening* you can go in and out as you please
Mrs Shroud: Be back better dinner, Liv-Chan
Livia: *Nods and activates her blasters, taking off through the opening in her room ceiling*
Mr Shroud: *Stares after her then rushes to the computer, tapping into the security cameras*
Mrs Shroud: Oh, he's worried about her
Idia: She is the only daughter now...
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Livia: *Smiles, blasting through the atmosphere, heat surrounding her body but vanishing*
Mrs Shroud: *Communicating through a speaker* Liv-Chan can you hear Mommy through the helmet speaker?
Livia: Yes, Mother!
Mrs Shroud: Good be careful but have fun!
Mr Shroud: Daughter, if it gets too dangerous tur back, don't jeopardize your safety.....
Livia: *Nods* I will! First stop! Saturn!!
Mrs Shroud: Mommy and Daddy Shroud out!
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Mrs Shroud: Let's get dinner ready
Ortho: Alright!
Mr Shroud: *Stays silent, keeping close to the microphone that lets them speak with Livia*
Mrs Shroud: She'll be fine Papa, but if you're really worried you can stay here and keep an eye out
Mr Shroud: *Nods silently, worry waving off him*
Mrs Shroud: Let's go make dinner boys!
Citro: Alright!
Pen and Pan: HECK YEAH
Mr Shroud: *Sighs* Be careful....My Daughter
#twst livia#twisted wonderland idia#shroud family#livia shroud#styx livia au#twst pen#twst pan#twst citro#twst ortho
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Been thinking back on the early books where Crowly would just not even play coy about holding Yuu's vulnerable status in TWST over their head to do things, he's only stopped in recent books because after Jamil's overblot, Yuu's stopped going to him for things/Yuu gets involved in stuff anyways but like, imagine Ortho or any of the boys with real Means hearing Crowly do the whole "Oh I'd hate to see you on the streets, Prefect" shit and just going "not if I have anything to say about it".
STYX probably has some sort of deal with other countries for Nationality if people born there like Idia ever need ID, so i could see the Shroud brothers just asking Mum and Dad to make their buddy a fake ID so they can get a job.
Or just Kalim or Vil using their wealth to simply pay for Yuu to get all the paperwork they need and then some if Crowly continues to be skeezy about it. (And its because its me and you, Ace debating whether or not to cheekily slip a marriage certificate in with all the paperwork, if only briefly).
Azul and the Tweels Girlbossing and Gaslighting that Yuu is actually from the Coral Sea and their paperworks just been lost in the exchange program, how dare customs lose something that important! All four of them deserve compensation for the damage!
But who needs all that when Malleus just bold face says that by Divine Right he declared Yuu a sovereign citizen of Briar Valley. Whose gonna fight him in this? Just.. the boys in general making sure Yuu is OK
Ortho offers to give you any secret you want off the internet for your birthday so I definitely see the S.T.Y.X. people coming in clutch for the paperwork. It makes the most sense to me because when I read Book 6 I felt like the implication was Grim was going to be kept there past when the OB boys were returned due to him being seen as a danger, so if Grim is a matter of interest to S.T.Y.X. then Yuu probably will be too eventually. Paperwork shmaperwork they'll have ids made up for Yuu lickty split.
Malleus is another good option, but there is that pesky senate to deal with... I wonder if we will ever get an explanation of how Sebek's dad immigrated there? Could Malleus claim that he's technically doubled the human population by making Yuu a citizen because Mr. Zigvolt is the only one there for now?
and just because it's between you, me, and hundreds of our closest aceyuu friends and family, maybe yuu jokes that if they just got married then they'd have some paperwork and ace makes a great big show of "taking one for the team" even though we both know he'd really like that actually. And so would you otherwise you wouldn't be joking about it.
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TWST Rant (!Spoilers!)
I was wondering about the cast of twisted wonderland in regards to their wealth and status. The majority of the twst boys are well off and of high status, but the whole wealth system of twst varies. I was trying to place the cast in order of who might actually be the wealthiest, so this is a little analysis rant!
Wealth and status obviously vary, Royal wealth would obviously be considered more valuable, so I would say Malleus and Leona would be presumably the richest since they are direct decendants of royal families. Malleus considerably ranking 1st, in my opinion, since he is to inherit the throne as first prince, while Leona is the second prince and holds just slightly less power in terms of a hypothetical hierarchy.
We all know from book 6 that Idia (and ortho) is from the Shroud family and will inherit the household and STYX. His grandmother was the original director of STYX that was later passed down to Idia's father. The organisation is highly influential and it is speculated for the Shroud family to be as rich if not more than the Asim family.
After Idia, I would put Kalim. We aren't exactly sure who is actually wealthier between the two but I would say the Shroud family directing STYX would be more influential on a larger scale. Kalim is born to a merchant family, I feel like some of the fandom collectively considers him a prince, but that is simply not true. Kalim is from a very wealthy family of merchants with some royal relatives, but he himself, if not royal in any ways. Kalim himself states "the Asims aren’t royalty, and I’m not a prince. I’ve got some relatives in the royal family, though.” The Asims are clearly very well off with many connections (even how kalim was accepted in NRC through his place being payed for presumably, most likely for connection since the family are merchants).
The following is more tricky for me to place. Vil is a different kind of rich, scaling more of fame and popularity. He's a world-known model with a famous actor father. He is from a privileged status in the show bizz and made a name for himself. We know that he's well travelled and known, from a young age his father always took him all over the world to establish connections and so on. However, I also see Rook being not that far off him in terms of wealth. Rook doesn't exactly have the same level of fame as the other characters, but the Hunt family has Villas in EVERY country within TWST. In Book 6, Rook suggested to MC and Epel to use warp pads or transporters from one of the villas to a closer destination. The transporter situation, according to Epel, is a big deal that requires permission to even have, let alone in every country. So Rook is of very high wealth and has direct ties to the government but is less talked about in that regard compared to other characters. So I don't know if he would be higher than Vil? It's possible.
Riddle is from a noble family with parents who are doctors. I would say they are rich. It is speculated by some that Riddle could somehow be tied to the Queen of Hearts, but it's not specified that he's royalty anywhere. Azul, in my opinion, would follow after. His family does make money, his mother owning a restaurant and stepfather being a lawyer. Azul himself runs Montre Lounge on campus as well as his shady deals. Azul is more bussiness wealthy out of the boys. I would asign Floyd and Jade alongside him. Even running of the fact that Floyd legit has top branded shoes in his vignette. I speculate that Floyd and Jade might actually be wealthier than that (I love the Mafia headcanons), and Jade is able to get expensive gifts and stuff. I wouldn't go as far to say that the Leech family is totally loaded, but they are definelty powerful within the Coral Sea.
The rest of the list is hard to place and up for debate.
Lilia has the advantage of being the oldest of the cast living for over 700 years and being a general to the royals. He has direct ties to Malleus, but I can't exactly place where he would be. In terms of hierarchy, he's a bat type of fae, which we're considered lower class in the fae community at the time, so he would have been seen as less by other members of his society. But he most likely has connections and ties. Dare I say if he wanted to sell his artifacts, he'll definelty be hella rich, lmao.
Clover family, I think they are a typical working class family. They have their own bakery bussiness but work constantly according to Trey, so that must mean they have income but one that you have to keep working for. Trey talks about that when they were busy, he would cook or get his younger brother tickets to spelldrive on allowance money and that parents would stock up on ingredients. Based on that, I would say Trey is off on a more "enough" to live a sustained lifestyle type of money. Like a more casual type of family with a few children (again, children need more money to be sustained)
Next, I would place all the connected working characters like Sebek, Silver, and Jamil. This seems considerably low, but hear me out. They are not exactly poor characters. They are very directly connected to noble people, though. Sebek has a military connected family right under Draconias' command as well puts both silver and him fairly high up. They are not independently wealthy but can experience more luxury lifestyles because of who they serve. Their status consists of being guards of a royal persona. Therefore, they hold a portion of recognition. Jamils case is complicated. The Viper family is born into servitude and are highly dependent on them in that manner. In a way, they could be counted as "working class," but I beg to differ in a way. Working for the Asim does benefit living standards and experiences, for example, even with being able to access better quality foods, living style, etc. It obviously comes with the downside like jamil risking his life for kalims safety (e.g., being a posion tester and constantly doing labour). In a way, despite not having personal property like Kalim, Jamil is still exposed to more luxurious items, products, etc. And it's hard to judge where he is on the richest ranking because he's directly bound to Kalim, almost like a hypothetical "contract" he's born into. More of being born into a rich environment but not being wealthy himself.
Lastly, poor baby Ruggie. Ruggie, being born in poverty, in the slums is the only character in NRC who is specified to be poor. Being born in poverty with his parents both dying early on, he was surrounded by other slum children who he considers siblings and often had to fight for food.He survived through hustling different jobs later on to work his way up. We know he hustles at Montre Lounge and for Leona to make any money and does try to make a bargain for any opportunity. Out of the entire cast, Ruggie is canonically poor.
Epel,Jack, Ace, Cater, and Deuce are ones who are a bit more confusing because they have less information on them. I've been thinking about Jack. His status is not exactly clear, and I can't find any evidence to pinpoint his social standing much. I would place him above Ace. In my analysis, I considered that Jack met vil when they were children, and i think Jack could even be higher on the list. i just can't find anything to clarify that. I would assume vil would have lived in a fairly well-off environment since he was a kid, so the neighbourhood must have been at least middle class or something. Just running off that, I would say Jack might be more middle class to average. He does have multiple siblings that need money to sustain. Ace states before to azul in a luxe couture vingette that he can't "afford the high-brand clothes." So I would say he's off a more average family type of income. With in this rank, I would also place Epel. He did mislead his dormates into believing that he's a noble and Vil suggesting epel to not use his dialect to not give away his actual position. His family aren't mages, which maybe within twisted wonderland would be lower class. But they are farmers from Harveston. Harveston isn't well known but does produce apples that does provide them with some form of trade and income for sure. Cater talks of not having enough money sometimes, but he's a very dual type of character that tends to mask things a lot. I think he's maybe just above average, actually. He claims to occasionally not have money. Someone let me know his father is a banker, but it's unclear how much the Diamond family actually owns or makes, but I think he hides his true position. We know Deuce has a mother who works with the White Rabbit logo trade chain. There's no indication to pinpoint where the Spade family is at, so I would also say around average. We know Deuces father walked out on them so Dylla is the working mother, I'm assuming the family is also a type to have enough money to live but no extra to spend (on stuff like luxury items). Deuce definitely got his wallet up after fixing Malleus's tamagochi and getting some pricey gems from him.
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If you know any information on some characters, feel free to share!
#twisted wonderland#twst#disney twst#riddle rosehearts#ace trappola#trey clover#cater diamond#deuce spade#leona kingscholar#jack howl#ruggie bucchi#azul ashengrotto#floyd leech#jade leech#kalim al asim#jamil viper#malleus draconia#lilia vanrouge#idia shroud#vil schoenheit#rook hunt#epel felmier#sebek zigvolt#twst silver#ortho shroud#twst analysis#twst rant
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Ya know, when I first got into twst, I thought grim was idia's pet or smthg cuz of his ears 🔥🔥😭 is there any reason why their fire is so similar and have anybody ingame point out abt it or bout grim's fire fur??(for some reason I remember someone did)
If Grim were Idia’s pet, bro would NOT have a day without being baby-talked or cuddled—
Idia and Ortho actually discuss this topic in 6-42!
Ortho originally thought that Grim’s blue flames were a direbeast trait. However, now he proposes that it is the result of a curse manifesting, similar to Idia’s own family curse which burns blot. It doesn’t seem to be the exact same though, as Idia indicates that it is difficult for even Styx’s supercomputers to crunch the numbers and analyze Grim’s fluctuating blot levels.
Idia notes that although he doesn’t know who cast the spell on Grim or why, there’s some seriously ancient magic involved—there are traces of a powerful spell on him. The Shroud family’s curse originated around the time of the Age of Gods, which we don’t know how long ago that is. For comparison, he cites the magic surrounding grim as “thousand-year-old primeval magic”.
Another similarity between the Shrouds and Grim’s circumstances (though I would argue this is also true of all or most other curses) is that it’s not clear if the magic cast on them is a blessing or a curse. In Twisted Wonderland, a spell is defined as a blessing or a curse based on the intended effect. Both are defined as magic that has been bestowed upon a person, but a curse is cast with negative emotions in mind and a blessing is cast with positive emotions in mind.
So to summarize, Grim and Idia aren’t technically related. However, their flames are implied to both be the result of magic that was previously cast on them physically manifesting and having some kind of effect on their blot levels. We know the origins of Idia’s curse but not Grim’s (yet).
#twisted wonderland#twst#Idia Shroud#Ignihyde#Ortho Shroud#Grim#notes from the writing raven#disney twisted wonderland#question#disney twst#book 6 spoilers
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Hi, I'm working on a theory for Ramshackle and MC. Have the creators said why Queen of Hearts/Scar/etc. were chosen for the Great Seven? ((Also, why did MC become the prefect of Ramshackle and not the Housewarden?))
Hello hello!! Thank you for this question, it became a rabbit hole!
Yana had this to say about the villains who were used for inspiration (from the game guide):
"The number one reason is that they are all from 'masterpieces with which everyone is familiar'. They are all legendary—you need only say the movie titles and the characters come immediately to mind.
Since they are also legends in their own right, we thought it would be good to choose stories with a long history, and that is how we settled on these seven.
There are many other movies with fascinating villains, so it was a very difficult decision."
-Twst Game Guide (2020)
She also goes into detail about the different eras during which the movies were set, which may also have influenced which were selected! More here! (Youtube)
But there may be more going on than we have been told 👀 There are theories that "death" is another theme that links the dorms together!
All members of the Great Seven were villains that either died in their movies (Scar, Ursula, Maleficent, Jafar (in the second movie), the Evil Queen), or were never alive in the human sense to begin with (Queen of Hearts, Hades).
Death has never been a subtle theme in Twst, with new students at NRC arriving via coffins.
Kalim observes that, with the ceremonial robes they wear to orientation, "it's like we're attending a funeral."
And there are also the ghosts!
While it seems possible to be born as a ghost (according to Crowley and Eliza), Lilia says that ghosts "linger here due to powerful attachments or personal motives...they aren't visible outside of magically suffused locations like Night Raven College," and that they "linger" by choice.
And this brings back to the prefect!
In the manga, all three prefects that we have seen thus far have had names connected to the afterlife:
・Heartslabyul Arc, Enma Yuuken (円満 雄剣): Enma's family name is pronounced the same (the kanji is different) as 閻魔 (Enma), the king of hell in Buddhism. From the Kyoto National Museum website: "The King of Buddhist Hell is Enma, who is also the judge of the afterlife."
・Savanaclaw Arc, Hirasaka Yuuka (比良坂 悠河): "Hirasaka" is written and pronounced the same as the hirasaka of Yomotsu-hira Saka, known as "The Entrance to the Underworld" in Shintoism, explained on Shimane Prefecture's official tourism website: "Yomotsu-hira Saka appears as the boundary between the land of the dead and the land of the living."
・Octavinelle Arc, Mito Yuuta (三途 宥太): "Mito" uses the same kanji as 三途川, the "River of Three Crossings," which is "a mythological river the souls of the deceased must cross by one of three crossing points." Credit to blogger Tansho for the discovery that "River Styx" was changed to 三途川 in the Japanese-language dub of the "Hercules" TV show.
So there is definitely a theme of the prefect filling a role between life and death!
While one theory is that the prefect ended up in Twisted Wonderland after they died (in the manga it is insinuated that all three prefects were hit by vehicles directly before waking up at NRC), another theory is that they're not quite dead yet.
If that is the case then they may be close (Grim wakes them up prematurely, and Crowley says that this is his first time having a student who opened their "gate" (coffin) on their own) and they might just be an astral projection of someone who is between life and death, appearing at the magically suffused location that is NRC.
In other words, a ghost 👀
The manga is following a theme of naming its characters something involving "Yuu" (which is always the students' nickname for them) and "Yuu" is also commonly adopted as the default-name for the game's prefect.
Another word that involves a "Yuu" sound is 幽霊 (Yuurei), which means: ghost :>
(Hence the name of this blog! It is the very chuunibyou name of a twitter account I made in 2018 to complain about my job. This potential connection to Twst was completely unintentional and makes me laugh.)
As for why the prefect was named Prefect of Ramshackle dorm instead of Housewarden: I am not sure! But it seems to have something to do with the unique situation that is the prefect's role.
They have not technically been assigned to the overseeing of the dorm as a whole, just to Grim, so maybe that is why? :>
And it is particularly interesting as that means that the role of Housewarden of Ramshackle Dorm is still open--maybe to be filled some day...? 👀
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CW & TW: Blood, some gore, mentions of miscarriages I'm wondering... Since Lilia's 700 years old (which is pretty old in Fae years and for his supposed species), would he have complications getting someone pregnant? Also, I've been thinking about Y/N having complications getting pregnant due to easily becoming stressed and because of some medical conditions that had been inherited in Y/N's family. How do you think he would feel about that? But despite those things being against them, Y/N happens to become pregnant. HOWEVER, they would have to have a healer or a medic from STYX and from Briar Valley collaborating together, watching the pregnancy almost 24/7 just in case the creation is miscarried. But as luck would have it, before the creation is miscarried, the magic that is used to save the child ends up working. Because of this, the child ends up being a miracle child. Y/N is shocked to see that this has happened since their dream of becoming a parent had been dashed a long time ago; those times were filled with despair and agony, their body having rejected many a creation before this one. Yet through the technological advancements of medicine and fertility magic combined had brought about something that nobody could predict: a half-Fae, half-human child who was born healthy and without much complication. You don't have to reply if you don't want to since these themes can be hard to talk about, but if you do, then I think you'll be great at it! Besides, there's (in my opinion) nothing stopping them from being accepted regardless by the Diasomnia fam!
Hello Faye 💞🌷💚
If we follow some general fae lore 🤔 it’s harder for faes to get pregnant and, depending on the species, it’s rare to have children? Though, none of this is ever mentioned or implied in twst lore.
In some fae lore, that’s why having children with humans are easier because humans are more fertile. 👀 This is also not mentioned in twst lore but given that the only half fae and half human we know of right now is Sebek who has older siblings…it might be true?
But there isn’t anyone to compare to as of right now nor do we know enough about BV culture and fae lore. Absjsjshs I know I went off topic, but I was very curious lol.
I don’t think Lilia would have ever considered having children before meeting you. He’s already has Malleus and Silver. He helped train Sebek.
For him to want kids? Especially with you? I feel it would be something he would gradually want. a little piece of you and him. I think he would feel sad if he couldn’t have them with you but even more so, he feels for you. That he couldn’t give them to you. Whether it be a you or he health problem or combo.
Either way, you’ll always be loved and welcomed in Diasomnia family lives. You being you is what they have always adored. Not being able to have kids has anything to do with that at all.
If you do get pregnant despite all the odds, I won’t put it past Lilia to be by your side or one of the boys being near you always. Especially since it’s a high risk pregnancy.
I think with the combination of STYX, fae knowledge, and the history of Mrs. Zigvolt; was any of this possible.
This is your baby. Your miracle baby. Yours and Lilia’s.
Through the support of friends and family, your baby was born. Your precious baby.
The one love beyond any measure even before their birth. 💞🥹
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TWST Incorrect quotes#684 Family be like-
Holiday dinner with the ramshackle family(The faculty, Ghosts, Yuu's siblings+Grim-), and of course you brought your SECRET boyfriend idea for your guardians to give you both their blessings...this is after book 6 y'all-
Like any good family...you guys get into petty disputes and end up ...exposing everyone's dirty secrets-
Yuuta: -And Dad, you know that mailman you got fired? He didn't steal your Artifacts, Yuuka did!
Crowley gives Yuuka a Disapproving Look
Yuuka*Decides to fight fire with fire* Yeah, well Styx agents didn't break the porch swing, Yuuta did!
Everyone looks surprised at Yuuta, while Yuuta looks outraged
Yuuta*If he is going down...everyone is-* Yuuken hasn't been doing paperwork for a year!
Crowley and Crewel gape at Yuuken in disbelief
Yuuken: Yuu and Idia are living together!?!THEY BEEN SLEEPING IN HIS DORM FOR A YEAR NOW?!
You look horrified, Idia is now sliding down the chair hiding in his hoodie, and the faculty looks stunned at the two of you
Yuu: When Yuuken was tasked to look after Grim and lost him! AGAIN!?
Ortho*Deciding to join in for fun* I love shoes!
Trein looks at him in utter confusion but...pats the young shroud head appreciatly...
Idia*Grabbing Otrho and covering his mouth*...
Grim*reading the recipe he was following, he helped with the dinner* I wasn't supposed to put beef in the trifle!
Yuuya*pounding the table in desperation*I WANNA GOOOOOOOOOO!
Crowley*rubbing his temples*…That's a lot of information to get in thirty seconds...
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This brings me to another question: after Chapter 7 is over, how will Idia introduce Silver? Like it or not, he's gonna have to tell them about the absolute parade of green flags (heh, get it?) he landed. Oh how will the joint family dinners go? Lilia and the Shrouds teaming up to embaress their sons while Malleus and Ortho hang out in the corner (I think they'd have a really cute friendship). Actually something tells me that both groups are already planning the Silidia wedding years in advance
well first he had to kidnap him
We still don't really know how Idia sees his parents truly, from what I see it's been in between of hesitation and comfort. Since book 7 is all about familial love, I'd say that Idia's relationship with his parents would be more visible later on.
I think Idia will first introduce Silver first as a fellow extreme blessing/curse holder. It seems that a gone-wrong type of blessings is quite rare to be found in twst wonderland (assumption, since there's no other character who bears it outside of Silver and the Shroud bloodline). Mama Shroud would be delighted to see Silver (and his 400 y.o curse). I'd say they wanted to 'check' on him for free since he's Idia's friend. Lilia will be concerned upon the last STYX incident with NRC overblotees, so him and Malleus will come for safety.
There will be joint family dinners, yes!! It's definitely a chance for Mama Papa Shroud to look at the subject- uh, Idia's beloved friend. They are definitely very happy to be met such a good mannered kid. I think they already knew Lilia beforehand since Lilia knew about Idia's grandma, which was supposed to be a secret? Since it's STYX (idk I'm still figuring out how tight they had to keep their personal identity) Malleus is unfortunately cannot mess around inside STYX or he might accidentally destroy some valuable devices, so they probably does the dinner outside the underground Bunker. And perhaps they will play at the park, Ortho will show Malleus his fav games and they will frolic happily lmao.
Both family then realize that what Idia and Silver had is something special... The Shrouds especially. They think that this is the first time they saw Idia just comfortable enough to talk with someone outside of Island of Woe, so they are slowly feel a bit hesitant with the whole 'experiment' shenanigans in their head hahaha
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my favorite thing about twst is that rook is BY FAR the weirdest fucking guy in a school that includes an immortal dragon prince, deranged mafia eels, a guy whose head is literally on fire, and whatever the hell vampire grandpa is doing on any day
Oh, definitely!!! He's so strange and that's what makes him so fun. He's such a talkative character and yet no one knows much about him. He's too mysterious! And is he rich? He must be if his family can afford all of those vacation villas, all of which are connected via mirror teleports. That can't be cheap! What are his brothers and sisters like? What about his parents? What are their professions? Many unanswered questions... I think it's also worth noting that he's a canon stalker and that he keeps pictures behind the wallpaper in his dorm room. He is so not normal and he doesn't try to be because his "normal" is being himself (which is weird to others). <3 I love him.
Compared to some of the other characters, he is absolutely the strangest. I think you can sort of chalk the tweels, Malleus, and Lilia's behaviors up to the fact that they're not human and grew up in a completely different culture and environment with their own ways of living and such. It would make sense for the tweels to be morbid and predatory because they grew up in a place where such things are normal (also mafia family stuff;;;;). Malleus and Lilia are from Briar Valley, a place where magic is so widely used that there is no major technology in sight, so of course they would enter human society with their own curiosities and ways of interacting. Also, Malleus lived a very isolated life inside the palace and Lilia has seen so much of the world (he's also lived through war) and so of course their behaviors would be understandably weird.
And Idia also lived a very secluded life that really wasn't very normal either, where his only social interaction was with his family, the staff at STYX, and the STYX robots. It was also incredibly tragic. >_< and he's a gamer and he likes anime. So,,,,, naturally he's going to be weird.
I think the most unsettling part is that Rook is human, and so there isn't really any way to explain his behavior. From what we currently know, he doesn't seem to have any pressing emotional difficulties that may hinder him and he seems to have lived a relatively comfortable school life. Also, he's so extroverted and so shameless about the fact that he watches Leona nap or that he wants to press the twins' buttons to see them snap... public speaking fears him. >:) but there may very well be some sort of trauma he's endured, or maybe there is no real explanation for his behavior. Maybe that's just how he is. I often cheat and say, "It's because he's Rook," as an easy way for explaining his behaviors, but I feel as if that's the only way to truly describe him. He's just so Rook. Unabashedly.
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inspired by this post by @midnight---hollow
TWST Christmas Carol AU
Azul - Ebenezer Scrooge
A cold-hearted businessman who cares only for profits and not the well-being of others.
Riddle - Jacob Marley
Azul's strict, now-dead business partner. The chains bind him in death the way his obsession with rules bound him in life, driving away everyone close to him. As a ghost, he comes to warn Azul the same will happen to him.
Ruggie - Bob Cratchit
A poor employee with a lot of mouths to feed at home. He's a hard worker and scrappy enough to make do with the meager amount Azul pays him, but his family struggles nonetheless.
Jack - Tiny Tim
I thought it'd be funny. Ruggie's morally upright but crippled son. He has a lot of energy and would love to run and play sports, but the family is unable to afford the medical care he needs. Nevertheless, he takes this in stride and always wishes the best for everyone.
Kalim - Fred
Azul's nephew, a jovial man who invites Azul to his parties every year but is turned down. He still believes the best of him.
Jade - Ghost of Christmas Past
A mild-mannered but relatively unsympathetic spirit who delights in psychoanalyzing scenes from Azul's past. "Fu fu... so that's why you're like this now, hmm?"
Rook - Ghost of Christmas Present
A rambunctious spirit who cheerfully drags Azul around to as many parties as possible while singing at the top of his lungs. Yet from time to time, he drops oddly deep and insightful comments.
Floyd - Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come
A creepy spirit who smiles eerily beneath a dark hood. Every ominous scene he drags Azul through makes him cackle the more freaked out the man seems, and he has a wild, excited look in his eyes when he pushes the man into his own grave to be buried alive.
Silver - Fan
Azul's older brother, Kalim's father. They all have similar hair colors. He was a serious but caring brother and taught Azul self-defense when he was bullied in his youth. He died young in his sleep, making Kalim a constant reminder of what Azul has lost.
Jamil - Belle
Azul was infatuated with Jamil in his younger years. However, Jamil felt Azul was too opportunistic and always had an angle behind every gesture, so he broke things off, leading Azul to believe that money was the only thing that would never betray him.
Lilia - Fezziwig
A merchant Azul apprenticed with for a time, who threw wonderful Christmas parties that were full of important figures like Malleus Draconia. Azul admired his connections, but quit apprenticing under him because he didn't understand the emphasis the man put on work-life balance, thinking he would make more profit working through the holidays.
Ortho - Charity Collector
A cheerful representative from the Styx Foundation, a charity for the poor. He is originally turned down by Azul, but is later offered a large donation after he sees the error of his ways. He tells Azul his brother will surely make a plaque for him in honor of his generosity.
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Hihi!!! Tis the season to ask holiday themed asks!! Assuming the world of TWST celebrates winter holidays, do your OCs celebrate any holidays? If so, what are some things they like to do?
Thank you!
Hoi hoi!! For Reference, I'm going to be using 'Yuletide' as the TWST nomenclature for the Big Winter Holiday (with others being eclipsed by it mentioned)
He celebrates Yuletide like many other folks in Altus. He HAS though, been exposed to some mero winter traditions, both just by some of his primary/middle school classmates being merfolk. It's just little touches around his family traditions, like a shell garland or two around the tree, splurging a little on seafood for dinner... For more 'traditional' Altus Yuletide fare, there's the winter market, open well into the night to allow folks a chance to see the lights on folks' houses while they shop. Something his mum had told him about, but has yet to reach the age where he can partake, is wassailling. Caroling is fun and all, but progressively getting jolly red in the face while singing and seeing who else wants to join in the festivities sounds A LOT more fun. But It was during the winter break during his first year (RSA) that That happened. It was also during winter break he got to show the Octa-trio his hometown, and have to deal with all the goings-on in Scarabia...
Their life Pre-TWST was pretty normal for a Californian Christmas. Talk to them today, they still sometimes call Yuletide 'Christmas'. It didn't take much to incorporate the parts of both holidays that didn't match up 100%. Tidus was the greatest listener as to how both holidays differed, which also helped Yuu get a better understanding of the holiday anyway. Once they grow old enough to get booze for it, their ponche navideño is gonna be what a lot of people stop by their place to get a cup of.
Both being denizens of the Coral Sea, I wanna Headcanon that their winters are a bit more like Ye Olden Days. By which I mean: It's too cold to go out anywhere, so we hunker down with our supplies and entertain ourselves in the dark. Ghost stories, party games and crafting 'to drive the cold winter away'.
I don't so much have any HCs for what STYX Yuletide is like, if its even celebrated at all. Being born/raised, in essence, in a company town kind of isolates you from learning much outside of it, so if anybody has a neat idea for traditions, he's willing to listen and give it a shot.
Being in a dryer, more arid plot of the Queendom, his Yuletides are a bit...sephia toned. Lights got draped around the house, family came over, goodies got baked and distributed among the neighbors, and town winter markets doubled as swap meets and craft fairs.
Surprisingly? For being a Yuletide Baby (Birthday Dec 24...SHIT I GOTTA MAKE A BIRTHDAY CARD FOR HIM), His folks try to make distinction that his birthday is to not be overshadowed by another holiday. Ya can't help when you're born. Some of the rest of the fam aren't as gracious, but he's got enough lovin' by his parents that makes up for it.
His home's heat is on FULL blast, humidifier going, everything every scaly bastard Reptile needs. He doesn't open the door for many, not carolers, donation canvasing, etc; it lets the cold in. His ears are quick to perk if he hears Mr Khan taking off to a warmer vacation destination.
This man's gotta travel a lot for business, so it means all the more to him when he takes the time to make his own decisions on the destination. Sometimes he'll book in some tropical locale, if only to drag Aadesh along for some subordinate ribbing. (He's made Aadesh try Snake Wine while out East, not so much 'made' as 'insisted'.)
It's business as usual for The Janitor. Once the kids take off for the break, they have the chance to do some deeper cleaning that their schedule wouldn't otherwise permit.
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TWST SPOILERS - THINGS THAT THE FANDOM HEADCANNON THAT BECAME REAL
Long hair lilia during his general days - its funny how we all just decided that he used to have long hair since he often mentions that he cuts his own hair for fun and etc
Malleus overblotting and the shroud family + STYX joining to stop him - a lot of people have been speculating that the shrouds and styx might be the key component to stop malleus's overblot since malleus is bad with technology (and also because STYX's specialty is to capture overblots and etc so they DO have the resources to do whatever that is necessary)
Malleus creating happy dreams and scenario for everyone, including himself - A LOT of overblot malleus's fics (including mine) involves malleus putting everyone to eternal sleep just so that they could be happy inside their dreams without worrying about anything
Malleus fighting and putting us back to "sleep" when he realises that we woke up from our sleep - once again, almost every overblot fic has this scenario. Bro is just desperate to make us "happy"
Possibility of fighting dragon Malleus - I didn't really see the leaks properly but I did saw Malleus with inky(?) dragon fighting MC. This point have been raised for quite awhile since we were wondering how we are going to defeat Mr Dragon.... (with the power of friendship)
Sebek's loyalty towards Malleus - This is not really a headcannon but some of us (including myself) were wondering what would Sebek do if Malleus strays towards the bad side? Would he follow blindly or stop him? We all know that Sebek's mind only revolves around Malleus (same) but it does put a peace in my mind that Sebek tried to stop Malleus and calm him down. Poor boy was crying when he realized that he disobeyed the person he looked up to so much but still have to carry on to in order to bring normal Malleus back
Overall thoughts
Malleus's actions were kinda expected (in my POV) but what I really love is the twist and element of surprise in the chapter. Silver having a unique magic that travels to dreams and my baby ortho gearing up to fight Mr Dragon :')
I cannot wait to see the next part of the chapter but at the same time my heart just aches so badly for Malleus since I can somewhat relate to how he feels. We are one step closer to his back story...
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